Unearthing Hidden Histories with Matt LaCroix | Unlearn Everything Podcast

welcome to another groundbreaking episode of unlearn everything and in today's episode which I shouldn't really admit but I'm really excited to kind have this discussion because it's stuff that I have been personally exploring for a while but we're going to venture Beyond we're going to venture beyond the accepted history books and and really question the very pillars that have shaped our understanding of who we are as a human species and again I'm dvo your guide on this journey of self-discovery if you will and I'm thrilled to be joined for a second time by a Trailblazer in the realm of ancient history and lost civilizations his name is Matt lroy and roughly about five years ago I sort of embarked on my own journey to just basically to unlearn everything and to to strip away the layers of information or misinformation rather and the Dogma that has been presented to me and really all of us for for our entire lives it's crazy to me how much in the last few years I have realized that everything I have been told from history to to philosophy to economics to how the finances work it it was all a misrepresentation in order to design to to control us and so this path led me to Matt ultimately and what an eye-opening Journey we had it's been one of our our larger podcasts that we've posted um and with his scholarly insights and his really it's kind of interesting his Fearless exploration into the unknown he has he has challenged and he has expanded our very understanding of History itself and so just a bit about Matt so you understand who were're talking to today and why you should sort of pay attention he's not just an author uh which he is an author he's got several books I have them right here in my bookshelf I've read them both but he's a researcher he's an Explorer and he's very pragmatic about it and he's a he's really a revolutionary thinker and if you listen to any of his content you sort of see he's right Always On The Fringe of of exploring things that that are rarely talked about he pushes the bubble he published a really good book I think it was his first one called the illusion of us and if you haven't read it pick it up it's on Amazon you can find it at any bookstore um and he did this really deep dive into the Forgotten truths of of our past that have been purposely buried uh and then he followed up with the second book the stage of time which is equally as as enlightening and in this book he tackled the mysteries of lost civilizations and ancient catastrophes and then just recently just I believe at the end of 2023 last year he co-authored another I think it's his third book now with called The Epic of humanity and he did it with one of my favorite uh unlearning disciples Billy Carson which if you have never found or discovered Billy Carson please look him up anyway he based upon what he's done since I last spoke to him and what he's been doing for the for for the for the latter half of his life right now he's really cementing his role as a pivotal voice in this historical discourse of unlearning everything we've been taught so today's episode uh on unlearn everything is really more than an intellectual discussion it's it's an exploration into the origins of religion I I really want to uncover sort of how religion has shaped Humanity today but religion was shaped prior before prior to religion even coming about it was shaped by some of the truths that he's uncovering in sort of the history of man so on that last episode he brought forth some revolutionary ideas that really resonated deeply with with our audience and it sparked a desire for me to really kind of go down this rabbit hole and and just really uncover what has actually gone on and the amount of knowledge that I have uncovered with guests like Matt and and people of his of his ilk it's just really crazy to me so one thing and and I'm bring him here in a second I'll stop rambling I know he's he's waiting to jump on um I had this conversation with someone the other day and they asked me there said look why should we care about this information what what difference does it make like history is history has done and over it in the past and and and the only thing I can think of is as a species our history has been marked by conquest and control where the Victor's Narrative of often drowns out the voices of the people that they conquered the vanquished and and we've seen entire civilizations history is Rewritten in in a literally a single generation and so today on this show and and just in general it's important for us to understand and challenge these Orthodox narratives that have that have that have shaped who we are and how we think and how we view other people and really unravel it so that we can understand that it it was it was a history rought with control and manipulation that has hidden the truth from from us and to understand the past is to understand our future and and really understand the power that we as a as a species really possess and that knowledge has been hidden from us so Matt's here to help guide us through this Labyrinth of historical and religious paradigms and and to shed some light on the origins of humanity and how it's impacted who we are today so welcome to a little impolite the podcast that's unafraid to dive into unconventional thoughts and ideas I'm your host dvo inviting you to embark on a journey into thought-provoking discussions expansive Revelations and the stories of inspiring individuals we're here to challenge Norms provoke intellectual curiosity and engage in candid conversations about Society culture and The Human Condition all with a slight Touch of polite impropriety from experts questioning the status quo to creatives daring to think differently you'll hear a spectrum of voices that a to shake us out of our comfort zones so are you ready for this enlightening Journey where the expected meets the unexpected and polite Society meets a dash of rebellion buckle up stay curious and let's get a little impolite I'm really excited Matt thank you sorry for that longwinded introduction but I'm really sort of tickled to have you and and welcome back to the show thank you dvo it's good to be back with you my friend that was a really nice introduction I appreciate that um and I just want to add one thing that you know to that person's question of like what what should you care about with history and what does it matter it's really not just about rewriting history so we understand necessarily just where we've been but in order for us to understand where we're going it's essential that we understand where we've been because where we've been contains most of the answers that we've been seeking to understand where we're going instead of thinking of it as a primitive past with people that were primitive minded we should think of it as an entire time period of history that was lost with thinkers that were far more Superior than we truly are now in my opinion Scholars on a level that we can't even comprehend the text they left behind they were brilliant Beyond Comprehension and so we must go back in order to understand who we truly are and the and the fundamental role that Consciousness and our energy and our souls play in the entire role of this vast un ver Multiverse that exists all around us we have to realize what role we play and in order to do that and understand that we have to go back and understand what the ascended masters of our lost history were trying to teach us all along yeah I I love what you just said and and this gentleman who I was having this conversation with he's a he's an ex-athlete he actually played some professional football and was pretty high level college football player and so the analogy I used to him is and and I I was an athlete in college so I remember the days we would watch past films so that we could understand how we had done in a prior a prior event or a prior game uh and we would study sort of like the chronology of games and really pick up on habits and I was like just like in the most banal example we watched film of ourselves of how we could improve upon ourselves understanding our past it's like let's watch films from the past from these people like yourself that are uncovering all of these things that have been hidden from us and it really helps shape The Narrative of who we can become and really stepping into our power yeah but but essentially and I we go back to starting you know where we were but not to get off on this but just to add that though it's very critical we understand that we must not think of the ancient people as being more primitive in their their thinking than us in order for us to not think we can learn something from them that is completely backwards if anything um it really is the opposite so um it's great to be here dvo A lot's changed since you and I talked let's catch up on everything and go down this rabbit hole before you do that it's interesting I was listening to you and Paul Wallace in a conversation and you were talking about and I I I believe this was you who said this forgive me if not but based upon some of the things you've uncovered it's a very real possibility that there have been at least five or six known civilizations that reached a peak of something greater than what we've accomplished right now because we think we're the epicenter of of all of all of the knowledge but at least five or six different civilizations that we actually now have some historical evidence that could have possibly existed prior to us it just depends on what your your definition of more sophisticated and more advanced is I definitely not technologically I would say or at least I don't think um it's possible let's not close the door on that completely there has been some un unusual things that point to some technological things that were achieved in um ancient ancient times like Atlantis in Egypt but in Greece also but for a moment like that's we can move past that and we have to go back into this Avenue of thinking how about their mindsets how about their understanding of the universe their understanding of energy Earth lay lines the understanding of sacred geometry their understanding of mathematics all of those things played into what I consider a great superiority over that time period in their thinking and if you want to label that if if you want to Label Society that has the Arts and philosophers and are mathematicians and astronomers and are the great thinkers then yes they were more Superior than we are in that way and I would completely say and you can probably add engineering because they're engineering ability to create giant megalithic walls that are tuned in specifically to a harmonic ratio of a specific Stone they used which in many cases is a stone that is so hard that we have no comprehension of how they even cut it or moved it which is like a whole part of what we talked about on part one about two years ago on that last show but since then a lot of Revelations and a lot of things have happened that have connected this narrative that truly I this is the encapsulation of this entire discussion based on what we just said and then adding to where we're going to go is that these discoveries we're about to talk about um and the implications they have truly connect to something that I think will fundamentally change our understanding of Consciousness religion spirituality and lost civilizations forever I really I really believe that we're about to talk about and this huge thing that's going on right now that's got a lot of very powerful people around the world interested and you can read between the lines on that in these discoveries as being like this origin Point missing link between religion spirituality and the ancient ascended masters of of the past um and that's what we can talk about today yeah these people you reference fact checked me after one of your episodes I posted on Instagram some of the stuff that you had talked about so it is interesting how people are listening even though they're trying to ress the information and and one small note before you jump into this um at your behest because you referenced in a show prior I flew to Peru this past year and I spent U almost two weeks there in one of the one of the more Monumental well there was every every part of it was pretty epic um but I hiked to the top of of monp Picchu monana 11,000 fet up above and being able to look down and sort of see these monolithic carvings that they had done but in just outside of cusu I I went and saw the NASKA lies and I I flew in a small private Charter plane over them and just the intricacies and the level of detail that was dug into this this sand this sandbed or Limestone whatever it was and the the shapes and the animals and there's like whales that didn't even didn't even exist in the middle of a desert somewhere so how could these people have known about this stuff so anyway just a sidebar just so thank you for turning me on to that it was a fantastic trip so sounds like a great a great little Adventure you had oh man it was the coolest I was there for almost two weeks got to see most of Peru at least the stuff that matters but the naasa liines were just something I don't know why just something about the space of that time and space just blew me away but anyway on to you we're going to be including Peru and Bolivia as part of the film and these discoveries to link so it's directly connected um and we can talk about that as we go along all right so I want to jump into one of the things that really has blown me away um this discovery of of a key to civilizations that existed prior to us and and uh you did a show I'm not sure how how long ago but it was with Billy Carson and Paul Wallace and you talked about this this ancient site that you had uncovered which was potentially being the key to understanding all of civilization so I just like to jump into it there if that's okay with you and just we're just going to H with the home run right off of thatat my life has been a complete Whirlwind over the last say year but especially over the last three four months really is quite quite surreal and I truly appreciate being given the opportunity to tell such an incredible and important story for mankind and I think that that story I'm not I'm not at all going to say I'm the first person to discover this I think that what was is being discover has been discovered and has been recently discovered that's the thing is some of these sites in Eastern Turkey around Lake Von are very new they're less than 20 years old I think even having said that that those connections are likely known I'm not the first person I think they're known but perhaps I'm the first person that uh was able to put this together in a way where the common person can be connected and this can really come out to to the world in a way where I think we truly can finally have a better understanding of answering some of the most difficult questions we've been asking for asking for thousands of years um and that started literally almost exactly a year ago from now that this whole thing started with you know if you remember the past and you know me I basically obsessed with the Sumerians in studying copor tablets and trying to understand this truly ancient story and mysterious origins of who we are and where we come from but in particular how the Sumerians of Mesopotamia uh modern day Iraq could have and and this is just traditional known information this is what you learn in school but even in school they'll teach you and that and they're right about that I just I don't agree with the time frame they'll teach you that Civilization emerged in terms of Agriculture and building and laws and rules in one place on the earth and they agree with this it it emerged in Sumer out of Iraq in places like eridu and shupac and Ira and those kinds of locations but it came out of nowhere and I mean what's so odd about it is that they literally invented everything and it's as my archaeologist friend uh Jennifer Deo that we'll get into talking about in a minute her famous her line that she said on a great video I'm just about to release is and this is from an archaeologist and we we'll get into that exciting information how she's involved in this but she said you don't have something like the Sumerians as a fully cooked culture those are her words come out of nowhere fully cooked culture what does that mean Sumerians invented agriculture which is the building block of the civilization had a irrigate Landscapes and had to grow large scale crops then creating the first currency based on wheat based on their agriculture then creating laws and rules and governing creating streets creating uh ancient temples learning how to build discovering basically the keys to astronomy mathematics metal urgy uh animal husbandry raising animals writing the first writing ever in the world which is still one of the most advanced writings that's ever existed and is a very mysterious writing and I could go on and on and on if we were to think about the foundations of our reality and how civilization could have taken off to where we are now you we owe everything every single thing we have to the samarians because they were the ones who passed all of that information then around the world to the Greeks and the Egyptians which then became this incredibly you know mysterious aspect of us where we just sort of emerged we emerged and all the story came forward but we don't understand where it went how far back it goes and where it started and I agree it started in Sumer but I believe that the original Sumerian timeline is far more ancient than we've been told and I have direct evidence to link that and prove it and I've been working with Jennifer Deo on specifically a site called shupac and shupac is considered the last of the Sumerian cities that's all that's mentioned in numerous tablets that have come out of like the ashab Bop Paul library and others in 1849 from Austin Henry lard but what they what's amazing about shupac is that it proves that this ancient narrative history of of our past is true and that it Beyond Legend and myth there really was an epic event that occurred on the earth and many epic events there actually has evidence now that there have been multitudes of these events but we'll call it the original event we'll call it the first widespread event where Humanity had emerged and then was then had to had to go through something like that kind of event where we almost were wiped out Humanity almost disappeared and never existed again after that event and that event I believe is not even the younger dras not even 12,000 years ago this is what's going to blow people's mind that if we're trying to expand from a 6,000 year narrative that's taught in school of human history emerging and I'm and and then younger dras of disasters that people know about if they research this with all of these Lost Civilization stuff and that's double that age how how difficult it is it then to say well no I don't even think it was that event I think it was another event previous to that so try to wrap your head around I'm talking about 20,000 plus years ago plus with a strong emphasis emphasis on the plus wow okay so so real quickly if I may interject yeah so mainstream historians mainstream scientists some of them are actually starting to come around and agree to this narrative or is this still outlier well that's what's so important is an announcement that I haven't even really had a chance to make that you're getting on here right now is that a full mainstream Mesopotamian archaeologist Jennifer Deo with a also an anthropologist human Origins has basically come together to work with me on this because she and I'm not going to speak for Jennifer but that she doesn't feel that the mainstream narrative that's presented with these findings is correct and so we are going and she's joining the team of with Billy Carson you know ancient expert with me Brian Forester megalithic expert Paul Wallace biblical expert and now her as the fifth member as an actual archaeologist Anthropologist to come together and as a team kind of like this dream team with people from all over the world and expertise to come together to truly change history to put all the evidence together from Full surveys full archaeological surveys in site analysis okay and having biblical experts and megalithic experts and going to each one of these locations and we truly are going to point out with an evidence-driven way to not only destroy our historical narrative but rewrite history in a completely new way and that's what part of this whole team is and you as you mentioned know not that I'm aware of as an archaeologist with a well accredited archaeologist with experience ever come forward on mainstream ever in history to do what's about to happen and so I command Jennifer Deo for being a hero in this for what we're about to do because we now have the means to be able to actually change history but not only that who cares right changing history we're going to connect a lost narrative that ancient civilizations and ancient secret societies around the world have been trying to protect their legacy of from the Knights Templar all the way secretly into the Vatican and the British royal family this is a story that goes back far beyond what most could ever imagine I don't want to make light of what you just said I think that we should draw some attention to this because people who are listening who don't really have a lot of knowledge around what you just said should really be made aware that mainstream hasn't bought into what you're saying primarily and in fact they've actually been bullied into not sharing this type of information because of so can you sort of explain that a little bit how you know yeah they can lose their professorships or because they're funded all these sorts of things absolutely why has information been suppressed by people so predominantly in the main historical World up until now this young this woman is now stepping out so science is a very polarizing type of aspect of looking at our reality because the problem is that science runs up against two huge challenges the first challenge that science runs up against in Archaeology is just a science is looking at what people had said before you okay and then where you're going to decide to go and what you say going forward so if you have all of this history of famous archaeologists and famous scientists that have devoted their life to certain studies Egypt and Turkey um and they have written all these accredited academic papers and books and you then be want to become an archaeologist you're like I love history I want to uncover the past you go to school you spend all that money you get you get your archaeological degree and you spend your entire time reading about the heroes of your past oh they they fundamentally changed their understanding of History this this name this name this name right they laid this framework and Foundation down and you become part of a very intricate Club of scientists and then you get there and you all these other scientists around you and they're all like I'm doing my dissertation on Ancient Mesopotamian history regarding the origin flood story and things and they did that they did that and their findings and what we're going to talk about is very interesting what has come out of some academics even studying some of these things and trying to like then come up with conclusions to match a very specific doctrine of history that has been protected this Doctrine in school that we're taught if you're in the United States and you're going to go learn about history that doctrine of Education from mathematics to astronomy history everything is it comes from World War II from the Rockefeller family when they established the educational Doctrine it has not changed since in fact you can't really teach anything else because you can basically lose your job as a teacher so try to imagine the facet of this goes into a lot of other areas than just scientists you have professors and and teachers that can't say anything different because they have a they have an educational doctrine that must be followed they teach they all teach like it's like almost identical and it's like sad imagine you go into you could go into a classroom that it's like maybe like ninth grade or something on history and then you like have the ability to close your your eyes and snap your fingers and go into like another history class like a thousand miles away another state and they're both like on the news they're both like saying the same thing like you know like where they do those news comparisons they're literally saying the same thing and you're like so everyone gets taught the same thing well those people who go to school they become archaeologists so that's their basis to learn from then they go they become an archaeologist and they they go in and they're excited to study and they're but what they want the most and they should is being taken being credible being someone who is respected a respected archaeologist and in order to do that you can't push any lines you can't change anything that anyone else said you simply must regurgitate findings based on who came before you in order to be accepted by that academic world credible based upon the context of the delivery that they were taught and that people think is the standard and therefore that's what they're going to learn from is that standard it's very similar to the medical industry today well but there's another huge piece of it I didn't add yet the other piece because I said there's two parts right that's part one part two is pretty serious and it has to do with funding if you were an archaeologist and you want to go work on a project right oh I want to go be part of this project you're you're going to be part of an existing project that's already being worked on or you're going to be trying to get funding and grants to get to be able to go work on that project I mean unless you're just happen to be born into a wealthy family which most aren't you have to then number one if you're part of an existing project what are the scope what are the scope of that project what are you trying to prove what are you what do you what is what is the what is the whole purpose of it right so if you have a bunch of archaeologists are all Excavating something you're not going to have one that's like based on their funding of what they're getting for this one that's like um I think you guys are wrong I actually think this site is like 20,000 years older than what you're saying and I think it's connected to lot civilizations around the world sorry I'm gonna I'm gonna tell everybody I'm I'm gonna tell everyone and then guess what their funding is gone they get laughed at they're kicked out they become a nobody no one hears from them ever again that is exactly what has happened for a very long time and I don't know how many archaeologists have actually tried to do that I'd be curious to know um how many but I will tell you that is changing that Paradigm is Shifting dramatically and those old times are not around anymore and and we're now at the point where even archeologists and others are willing to St step forward and that is what's happening right now I I always Marvel at people like yourself these revolutionary thinkers who have these ideas they're outliers initially but once you start really speaking up and you're able to back it up with support and evidence and and and documentation and data around it it is interesting how other people slowly start to latch on to that and then they too get empowered to say it so kudos to you and and people of your of your like that are doing this and um it one final point before you jump into that your your dialogue another thing that I was thinking about prior to this conversation is that history itself it it's based upon someone's individual narrative right and that narrative is and I said it in the outset of the introduction it's generally based upon the current conquered controller of that of that narrative right and it's crazy to me like if you even look here in America just if you need a frame of reference entire indigenous cultures were wiped out and Rewritten after they were conquered by the American Empire and so this whole new idea of what they wanted us to believe and the indoctrination of the younger kids in the generation it's like one generation away and the entire culture gets wiped out so it it's just crazy to me it is great to see what's happening with Columbus Day though because that really is what you're talking about and specific in reference I mean horrible things happened with Cortez in Mex Mexico and um pizaro in South America but in in you know we don't we can't forget about the America America the United States where we're talking to each other right now what Columbus did and what other subsequent conquerors that came after did is they destroyed the entire Legacy of this this beautiful memory we're going to call it a memory a beautiful memory of an ancient past of knowledge that had passed around the world with lost civilizations that had then been destroyed from catastroph rhes and that knowledge had trickled down in to indigenous groups and Native American groups and they then woven that into the very heart of their teaching and shamanic rituals of connecting heaven on Earth Balance in harmony with all of Nature and and everything around you and Harmony and balance within and that is exactly the types of teachings that come from Lake vaugh that we're going about to get into is the heart of all of that but it's truly sad to me that we're finally I mean it's it's sad and and happy to me at the same time but we're finally getting to that point where Columbus being is instead of being this hero is being seen as this is this truly a Monster who just took slaves and murdered and was really really only came to the Caribbean and the and America for um not for a western spice TR TR he trade route he never even found Mexico um he came to the Caribbean over Sub sub subsequently three trips back and forth with gold and slaves because they finding all kinds of gold from the arak people in the Bahamas in the Caribbean and then they basically Min Dominican Republic in the Cuba and Puerto Rico which is a history that people don't even know about Columbus but that's really the true story of a Columbus is that they were taking slavery slaves mining for gold and then they came and they were just conquering lands and that Legacy of those people you know that that image of like an a Native American Shaman up on a mountain top you know pounding a drum and he's you know observing and watching the world around him collapse and be destroyed and it's like everything is collapsing around him and it's All That Remains is like preserving that which means the most and matters the most to them wild and that's what means so much about these places it's wild you you talked about a memory of of past civilizations in these mallic sites I don't think a lot of people are even aware that even within America itself all over the country there are massive pyramids and and and things that have been buried whether it's under mud or whether there was a catastrophe or intentionally buried you know I know that I there's like up in Montana for example there's all sorts of things and even in I was watching that show by Graham Hancock on net Netflix where he discovered all those temples and those pyramids just in I think it was in Ohio or somewhere in the midwest so it's just it's crazy to me all right well let's jump into your show so um and I I I you can begin wherever you want but for me I guess we'll go back to shupac we'll take off there all right so you you've made some discover I'm not sure if you was it zeraki Tey do I have that right or is it okay so you made some discoveries on this ancient site called zeraki Tey and and and from what I understand you think this might be the key and which has sort of been like the Bedrock for everything you're about to do now with with this group of Superstar FS correct well daki Tey actually believe it or not it didn't end up becoming the most important of the sites after it ended up being I ended up realizing it was more of a citadel it is important absolutely is important but not in terms of our understanding of like Royal temples with these ancient symbols and this knowledge um that comes from other sites and that's what we can talk about now but that is how the story got started though and so when I realized these different levels of shupac proving the story and how that hero that that narrative from the Kor tablets the last Sumerian king from that City remember that's the city we have archaeological exovations that prove there was what's called an inundation layer massive flood with the original Sumerians found at 35t down Jennifer blew her mind when I was showing her that she was like oh my God that's because it really is like um you get evidence to match up these ancient mystical stories and that's is how this connects though because the last king in the tablets of shupac was this mystical pries and King known as unap pisham rias sudra who became the Christian figure of Noah and that is absolutely fundamental to understand this because first of all take what you know about the Noah Christian story and sort of throw it out for a minute just kind of Chuck it behind you and imagine that that's not really how it went and that they took a lot of um change they changed a lot of things in the story but it originally came from this concept of an ancient priest and a king who's part of a bloodline who had a family Three Sons specifically Three Sons japeth ham and Shem anyone who knows those names will know where I'm going here but they The Story Goes that he was warned of a catastrophe That was supposed to be engineered by the gods to wipe out Mankind and destroy us because various reasons and that's a whole another conversation we could a whole another show to talk about believe it or not so much that you you could mentioned in that segment but the idea is that secretly um this Council had said that none of humanity could never learn the truth of what was coming they literally had a council the anuna had a council where they determined the fates of mankind and they said that it's wild and they said that they wanted to create a flood and they don't all they didn't all agree with it but some were against it and then some they finally came together and agreed that they wouldn't tell an oath to not tell any any people and just let it come through and wipe us out well this last Sumerian king the Noah figure is secretly warned by his Patron God enki that's where the whole thing is incredible because um we're finding evidence that the entire story was true the the entire story was true from the surian Acadian and Babylonian understanding okay and what it is is that this event is coming a flood of proportions we can't imagine maybe tectonic changes that created tsunamis we don't know but something like that and he was warned that if he didn't create create this massive boat craft this boat made as specifically Cedar which is the toughest wood you can have that won't rot Cedar's amazing Cedar and bitchman bin tells them to use bitamin bitamin is one of the most important things we have for building today it's what you use to to it's basically like glue but it's a type of hard black adhesive that binds things unbelievably tough it's like tar if you want to think of it it's more like almost like a sealant of tar okay he told him enky tells Noah if you don't build this craft that's completely sealed sealed off completely um you will die and everyone else you know is going to die and he was told he can't tell anyone else the elders he can't tell any of the Elder Elders at all and he he subsequently actually gets him to help him build it which is kind of interesting actually he gets him to help him build it and he can't tell them though and they all die and nobody actually I don't know people know about that part of the story but it's so real quickly sorry let me before you continue because I don't think a lot of people well maybe a lot of people who listen to this show might but a Nuna Inky these are these are clarify just real quickly these arean Dees and gods that come from a time when member the Sumerians that cooked culture that Jennifer T where they had invented everything that's the bizarre thing is like how did they do that well it seems more likely and it seems very apparent based on what actually is said specifically like for instance go look up a cylinder seal called VA 243 it specifically shows eny passing the plow to mankind the plow like agriculture creating everything and agriculture is the very Foundation if you were to take everything else that they invented you know astronomy mathematics Metallurgy all those things literally none of those are nearly as important as agriculture actually agriculture is the building block of a civilization so it's no wonder that he's shown passing that because it's almost like I'm G to pass the very thing you need to create and finally create a civilization um anyway that's just that's why it's so bizarre but that's anky in that VA 243 passing that the plow right and it's just fascinating because they seem to have some kind of an Angelic like role in our reality and almost demon-like role at times too which is why I think they became that in Christianity within the realm of our reality and passing these things to us and teaching us things and which is why I mentioned when that disaster was decided it was by them to destroy us so getting back they Noah builds the last Zas sudra Noah builds this craft with for his family and some animals and the three sons and he lands the tablets truly state that if you go read the outra Jesus he lands on Mount Ararat or the area of Mount arat which is in Armenia Eastern Turkey area where I am where this Lake Von is right now and I always found that fascinating because that's where the tablets ended and I had known about that for a very very very long time and I had been just trying to figure out what happened though went next it's like a mystery that goes cold you know like you're in a you're in a some kind of a murder mystery and you run out of Clues and you don't know where to go it's like the clues ran out and I had no idea where to go for years and years and years okay because we never found out what happened to that family and you know if you go through Christianity just reading their text and Hebrew Traditions spe specifically the ancient Hebrew Traditions that they talk about those families they're very open you can see charts where it says japeth went to Europe like Greece area and it says that Shem went to Egypt and then Cham went to Southeast like uh Iran down to India uh it shows the family charts and that we knew about that but people didn't really believe it was real or it was just one of those things that were like well we don't know if that's true or not and that I knew about that but there wasn't any evidence of any of it it was like it was all mythical and hypothetical but there but there are documents don't tablets and and that actually show the chronology of these people and the Kings and the Kings list and all this sort of stuff that's what's Wild is that they but they have Christian and Hebrew names and so it's difficult to then connect the same names back to the original Sumerian version because you have to have a cyer you have to know what the in between is between those kid those families and those lineages and that's what we found that is or well I should say I found or at least connected at Lake vaugh and the the way the story goes is that a year ago I was researching searching just on my computer and then I don't even know how it happens I mean I'm sure many many people listening to this who have gone down this path have had bizarre things just get interjected like a YouTube video or something just literally get put right in front of them that's very specific to exactly what they needed though at that moment some people are gonna be oh it's just an algorithm pointing you towards something that you that you're already would have been naturally inclined to but I don't believe that there's way too many strange and unusual things that been happening to my life and others that are kind of funneling you and pointing you certain direction very much feel what these synchronicities yeah that very much is what this this whole thing feels like is that because I'm such a megalithic nerd and if some wall pops up that I've never seen some some ancient megalithic wall if I've never seen it it's you know I'm a nerd like that's what I study at night till a midnight sometimes so I saw this wall pop up as part of this excavation at Saki tee and I I was like I've never seen that before what is that and I mean it's new they they just uncover 2017 2018 2019 I mean in the archaeological world if you think about gockley tee still being talked about as this revolutionary thing that was found in 1944 it's old compared to these these are new new in fact these are the newest Kids on the Block these are the newest significant archaeological excavations in the world and most people don't even know they're happening but that's and I didn't either but that's where that story went is that just a single image popped up from jazak Tey and I said those megalithic walls look just like Peru I said it got really bizarre because I knew that shouldn't exist there's nothing in that area that's got megalithic stuff it was that I had known about it was like it was like strange it was unusual like it shouldn't be there and zeraki Tey got my attention and I remember calling Billy Carson on the phone at conscious life Expo almost a year ago from right now and telling him specifically I said said to him I remember I said these these site as are neppi is really bizarre someone like it shouldn't be there you know again has all these polygonal walls and connections I said I think I have a theory Billy I said I have a theory that it connects to the Bloodlines of the ancient Sumerians in Noah because how else could you explain this building out of nowhere when Mount Arad is 54 miles from Lake vau and so I had that theory and but I couldn't find anything to support it other than just you know Theory and then I moved on and that's important because if someone has a theory and they try to bend evidence to it that's not a scientist okay you can't do that you have to go where the science and the evidence goes and so to to show you that that's very much true I literally like a kind of no I can't find anything on that I I moved on my life for a couple months went off and I was just researching and doing stuff and all of a sudden it happened again another image popped up this one that was off cavis Tey incredible megalithic bass bassal designs and and that's what launched the whole thing because when I combine that I realize something and this is something that I think people have to wrap their minds around if you have the ability to create a giant sophisticated megalithic wall with high Precision laser cut you can like cut your finger on it still you know thousands of years later you have to have a culturally a super Advanced culture with that has arts and has reached a certain level of sophistic to be able to create those because you have to have stonemasons and you have to have a whole agricultural World already set in place you have to have a civilization that's Advanced so when I found cavis Tey and I knew that it was that it was at the southern part of Lake Von and that Zaki Tey was in the northern part I knew what it meant Evo what's the distance between the two sorry just so I well I mean it it may be like 30 2030 miles that far but what it means is it's an entire civilization see what I mean find that then you know you're you're looking at something that's huge that's not isolated it's small okay like actually go back is a great example of that it is actually kind of isolated and small it is it may be a big Mountaintop with an astronomical temples but the but the levels of like civil civilization being present around it it's almost like it was a group that was there creating some kind of an astronom astronomical temple in that site specifically for a reason but it wasn't like a super civilization all around it and in fact as we go along here you'll see that the t-shaped pillar at gobee came from Lake vaugh that's the original same symbol that came from Lake Von so let me get back to that wait hold on one second so so that same point you just made I I learned and if this is true please tell me or this not true but Machu Picchu is the same situation it was just reserved for a small group of perhaps Elites it was just a celebratory site or some sort of a celebration well not celebratory let me let me it's imagine that normal people can't go there mhm like you can't if you are an average person that you know just works at the you know you're farming or some some kind of like a civilian job you'll you'll never find yourself at machap Picchu I mean like an Inca you're like an anci ancient Inca farmer yeah step pyramid farmer right or step Terrace farmer you would never go there because that's you're not allowed to you're not even literally allowed to it's for Royals and initiates and priest okay that specifically take a pilgrimage that go up there and it's a place to connect to the Gods in in the universe and it was reserved for only like powerful priests and kings and and and people that were of a high standing Royal standing um very much so with what you're going to see in comparison for zanaki key being a citadel Citadel of regular people but a place like ianis cavis and ke kef Temple the normal people could never go they were truly Royal sacred temples and so only priests and kings and others of that kind of level would be able to go to these places and that's wild in its own way to think about but so I knew that there was it was the beginning of something big I knew that it was something that was in completely highly Advanced civilization but the caveat here is that the archaeologists that were Excavating these sites thought it was part of What's called the urartian civilization which is only like 10,000 plus years off in my opinion in terms of uh The Narrative of of history but not only that the Aran civilization very much mimics a lot of these other Mesopotamian likee civilizations we see like the Assyrians building out a brick brick mortar uh actually became kind of a semi warlike civilizations uh and the Arians were like that they never built anything without brick it was just brick that was the and why like let's wrap wrap our heads around this because this is important to understand why would you only build out a brick if you you didn't have to well because you couldn't you didn't have the means or sophistication to build any more sophisticated than that simple as that it maybe had started off as as a different Purpose with brick but later on cultures just didn't know how to make anything more advanced and I really want to make that a strong emphasis of this conversation that if you're seeing anything in the world that's made with brick brick type of designs that it's it's from on it's unless you're talking about like er or something which is those places are completely not going to be part of this equation because they were buried by mud and preserved so that's just a different part of the story but all these other civilizations like the acadians and the syrians and the Chalan um and the indis valley cultures and all of those they just build with brick okay but that's so important because it means they couldn't do anything more advanced so when you get to these sites around Lake vond you see all this incredible bass salt and an aite some of the hardest stones in the world with these incredible designs with the brick on top it's very obvious and Jennifer Deo agreed the artan built with brick and whoever built below that that I'm calling the Lost erat Civilization I'm coining them they were highly Advanced highly sophisticated and mysterious so mysterious that I believe they were the origin point of not only megalithic building everywhere in the world the ability to know how to do those giant Stones I think it's originated there like to begin but also these teachings like the first cross and chalice but the teachings of the tryptic doorways and how to reach higher States Of Consciousness seems to all come from there not in the way that you might think not in the way where that's the last place that we have evidence for it of I want to be really clear about that more so that like the surian seem to have invented all those things where it looks like it was passed down to them like here remember eni and the plow VA 243 go look it up he's passing the plow instead of thinking that they invented how about that they all that stuff was passed to them to then create that Civilization same thing here I think like vaugh getting back to that story of Noah he lands on the mount irat with his sons and his family tablis state that en enil comes Furious comes down from the heavens and says no man was ever support supposed to survive the flood and it goes on to basically the temp the tablets fracture off but what happened after that point and I have to go into a I wouldn't even call it speculation I'd call it academic I don't know you I'm trying to think of the right phrase for it I'm proposing uh a theory that has very strong evidence behind it okay we'll call it whatever that want to say that is a hypothesis that has good evidence backing it and that is that ianis which became the Central and most Royal and sacred Temple of all of them around Lake vwn um and was the place where something was lowered that had never existed before imagine if you were say in charge of cycles and there's a cycle coming where Humanity can can reach the Golden Age and what if you were to to lower all the means to do that and then they do and that narrative fits exactly with this mystery around the world on how these civilizations could have re reached these Grand means to create temples and pyramids that are like aligned to specific constellations and the the harmonic ratio of energy and the the ratio of the Moon the sun all these things that are wild it starts to make sense that how they could have done those around the world if you had some kind of An Origin point where the intention was literally to create a golden age like if that was that was the intention at ionis was let's lower the knowledge of how to reach God and Divinity and let's lower the knowledge of how to build temples to reach the stars and all of those things imagine that happened at one single loc location in history one spot and I believe ionis ionas temple haldi temple at ianis okay it's called ianis kesi officially just like kef kesi but the word kesi means Fortress so I don't want to use that word so I'm calling it ionis Temple and kef Temple and V various things because they weren't fortresses at all that's again a misdirection on on what their purpose was but and I I'll let you jump in a second D.A but I just want to say that what became first one s sites or aepi blossomed into like five sites and then even underwater temples underneath Lake vaugh over 100 feet underneath the lake and it's the only megalithic Temple wall underwater in the world and that also proves its age and so what we're looking at is a super civilization that was building here and reaching the Stars Ascension wise and then like pass it around the world and that that narrative has been what has been protected all along and of course we haven't got into the details of it all yet but I want to at least you know bring that to you to that place of just saying we're now investigating a mystery okay and that mystery has led to me and I want to just add update this that mystery has led to being so big so big that when I discovered ionis I ran around the room three times I know it's really weird to say that but I was so excited because I've studied this for so long that the second I saw IIs I knew I imagine I imagine your wife is used to these little celebratory runs around the room from he wasn't there thankfully I was alone thankfully I was alone that day no but it it I knew I knew instantly it was like that's that's it that's the missing link I've been looking for and and it's grown from that um to truly being something where uh I moved on from Gaia and started my own company called ionis Legacy literally named after ionis and preserving the legacy of knowledge that came from from that Temple and I created I created a company that then is the founding behind a a film that is now exceeding it's gonna have a budget that exceeds half million million dollars yeah I heard you talking about that and we are going to be bringing experts around the world and we're going to be going to right now we're going to four countries I'm not going to spill a secret one that people are not going to even imagine we're going to add to this I'm not going to I'm not going to spill it yet but we're now going to four countries instead of two and we're basically taking a narrative from Turkey from this Lake Von these civilizations like ianas and K and we're trying to prove that it's the missing link connector all around the world and so that's why we're going to be taking groups with Experts of in archaeology and biblical studies and ancient texts and megalithic building to go to Lake vaugh to go to these sites and try to prove to see if this mystery in my hypothesis about it being the origin of literally everything is true I'm still volunteering my time like I did the first time I met you as the chronologist for this just to take photos and document it so if you need somebody I'm your man okay um so as you these four different countries that you're going to be filming in this is that connection with these megalithic sites that you talked about and these comparisons that are drawn between and the symbols too yeah so like even like between Mount arat and these megalithic sites you're talking about in South America like was it tiwanaku tiwanaku pumu and then specifically in Peru we're um we're going to be focused on o Tomo oh and the connection that you're seeing and I know some of this is already not what you're about to unveil but or or discover but it it's crazy to me that a lot of people don't understand that all around the world there are similar megalithic sites that share common denominators and in development and whether in in hieroglyphics un coverings all these sorts of things and then they're all sort of interrelated interconnected potentially that's that's the idea you know and I have to give so much credit to people like Ram Hancock and Robert Bal and Robert shock and John Anthony West and I mean we could have we could go over about 20 names on that list right now okay of people that started this the ones that put themselves out there to show look this this narrative doesn't make sense right and you know the first people that ever did that we got to give them credit people that don't know the history of of this alternative side where we're trying to blow this whole thing open it really started with John Anthony West that man is hero he singular man John West he then brought in Robert shock who's a geologist who came there skeptical which is interesting how that whole thing went which you're supposed to if you're a scientist you should be skeptical but John Anthony West was in Egypt and he's was studying the Sphinx enclosure and he with other ex some other people that were helping him as well were firmly believed and Robert Bal as well Robert John Anthony West and Robert braal were there in Egypt and they firmly believed that it was not The Narrative that we're told is not right on the Sphinx being part of the dynastic pharaohs and all this stuff and then that's when Robert came to Egypt and went to the Sphinx enclosure and studied it and then came out with his his analysis that it was not wind weathering but water weaing and it had to have been from the younger drer before that is literally what started this entire movement I think it's important that we take a moment to to to honor the late John Anthony West who's not longer with us for that incredible contribution to start something that would lead to this to start this start something that could lead to us fundamentally changing our entire history but getting to the origin of what may be our the very Divinity of who we are which goes back to the original question at the outset of the introduction to my friend why should you understand the past because it's people like that people like John Anthony West people like yourself and all the other names that you just dropped that are changing the actual Paradigm of every everything that we want that we now believe that will eventually change what we could potentially evolve into so it's phenomenal like understanding the past is critical to to being able to step into the future to me but especially when the secrets and answers to especially the greatest questions we've ever asked were already answered then it's it's amazing to me that we think we're trying to find something like this way we're trying to oh uh I'm G to go through like I'm gonna I'm G to go to amazing like best yoga retreat you've ever seen in Costa Rica and I'm going to find the secret like we already have the answers guys we don't they're already there the Ancients literally mapped it out for us in the most comprehensive way possible from the from the Egyptians with the Book of the Dead that understand basically the afterlife like mapping out the afterlife journey of a soul it's right there the Egyptians already did it they mapped it out all the way to an the hermetica with literally the hermetica if you haven't read it with Hermes the Greek Hermes is literally understanding of the fundamental constants of the universe they're already there they're you could go to vadic text you could go to ancient Mayan text with their calendar and understanding of Cycles you go of course all the amazing Samaran and Cadian Babylonian stuff all of that it's they're they're all the same teachings they're all they're all literally the same teachings about how to reach higher states of energy and it's um I find it I find it fascinating to me or almost um even absurd a little bit that don't put enough emphasis on those ancients and think and maybe that's just because of how they've been presented to us for our whole life as being primitive and nomadic and not something that we could put on a pedestal of knowledge like we we really should be doing well you mentioned that education system itself had been Rewritten in said the 50s by Rockefeller but from my perspective and as I start to really uncover this and learning from people like yourself it's almost like this information is being suppressed intentionally to me what why would they suppress so much information that is foundationally important for the understanding of who we are how well M that's a really difficult question to answer because the deeper I've gone down it the more I've realized it's not it's not what we think let's say you have to have certain things happen for the development of a civilization I'm going to go super high level with this answer instead of going low level because I think people are smart enough now imagine humanity is uh governed by certain energies and certain uh certain dynamics that are kind of lost on us where we are actually governed by Cycles right we're governed by cycles of Consciousness and energy and those cycles of Consciousness and energy EB and flow based on the 2,100 year procession of the Equinox or the Zodiac and there are 12 of them so the energy relates to each age has different energies and different different movements now take that and then go to India and go to the vadic Yuga Cycles okay the Yuga Cycles describe how humanity is humanity is literally governed by that energy it's not by individuals that are playing that defining role in all of humanity no not at all they're just like actors imagine a more of where the yucas talk about how Humanity evive flows between Golden Ages bronze ages silver ages and then back to Golden Ages again but you you don't go from a golden age to a silver age you go from a golden age to a Bronze Age which means you got knocked down that's exactly what we've seen throughout history with ancient civilizations we got to stop thinking of us as being the Pinnacle of our entire story maybe we're there technologically but not in other ways is that we have to imagine that there was another Golden Age already that's existed and they are the ones who built all these amazing things in my opinion including the stories of Atlantis and all of those all from that time period okay catastrophes wiped them all out you mentioned like something like Machu Picchu when then the people that built Machu Picchu originally the foundations they all disappear and get wiped out then imagine an indigenous group in the Amazon that had survived because they knew how to be perfect in harmony with the land and all around them imagine they are exploring one day they're making their way through the jungle and they pop their head up and they're looking around and they see on top of a Mountaintop a jungle temple like mysterious and lost and they go up there and they're looking around they're finding maybe some ancient writings mysterious symbols and they're trying to figure out what it is and then through them it it literally elevates their civilization to become the Inca that's who the Inca are they the indigenous groups from the Amazon that found their remnants of an ancient Lost Civilization which is why they were only able to build with more primitive stones and smaller work on top but they still supposedly had bloodline descendants that would come back from the royals and that's what the Inc and Royals were um same thing as the Maya and the same thing as the Aztec and olch same thing much more Ancient Ancient story that had been there that then other indigenous groups found then built on top and tried to mimic him that's why the Maya and the Aztec became so uh warlike and bloodthirsty and all those horrible things because that's not the original civilization that built those things for in perfect example of that is taakan in Mexico the Aztec specifically state that they found tacon they found it they didn't they even they're like no we didn't build it no they found it and what's wild about teon you want to connect this narrative around the world is that t hon is based on three pyramids specifically three pyramids okay hold on to that that understanding of three think about astronomically the Earth the moon and the sun father the sun right in Christianity the Trinity now imagine these tryptic doorways at Lake vaugh showing three doors of Ascension for how we can reach higher States balancing the the harmonic left and right side and then and then finding this Ascension through the the the balance of mind Body and Soul the same thing it's the same thing okay that's embodied in like everything they do now imagine ton add another layer not only that but imagine they have three pyramids the Pyramid of the Sun the Pyramid of the moon and the Pyramid of KET quaddle okay and they are exactly mimicking the three belt stars of Orion above and then across the world in Egypt the three Great Pyramids exactly the same thing on the ground mimicking the the three stars of Orion if you take those two locations you create a Synergy on the entire Earth where two places are exactly matching that energy of those two places creating that heaven on- Earth bond that is what the Ancients understood that we have no comprehension of today wild did do you want to continue with what you're doing with it or am I can I jump into some questions I have just around go jump into some questions because I mean it's um yeah we can um I got about 20 minutes left now we're going to need way more than 20 minutes real quickly this is a separate question just esoterically speaking why go from a gold into a bronze what's sort of the if if you were the creators or you were the people moving into this phase is it because the civilization was wiped out and so they have to start over or was there some intentional push to to degrade back down no that seems to be inherently built into the Cycles here that's what I mean it gets bizarre it's not like we're alone in the universe and it's just random things what are happening here it's it's the complete opposite it seems that we're part of like a grand story that this is like a a stage that we're playing out these uh fundamental roles with learning moral lessons with our own soul from an energetic standpoint of existing in a physical experience and that that's our it's like a teaching World here we're part of some kind of a karmic cycle that's on the Earth but is is being determined by ordainer of Destinies that's what they call themselves it's a learning Paradigm interesting they call them they they literally talk about how it's like the ages are determined and ordained in ahead of time meaning that it's decided before it even happens and so it means that the Yuga cycles and this these Cosmic laws that exist Cosmic is that we're part of some a cycle here that is based on this need or built-in requirement that civilizations once they reach a golden age then get knocked down back to a Bronze Age and have to make their way back again just amaz it's well it's amazing because it it exactly aligns itself with the EB and flow of natural progression of energy if you think of something going like this it's like our story is playing into that EB and flow in the entire universe yeah we and we're part of it and the powers that be today already I I suspect actually already know this which is why they play into it yeah 100% I mean if you look at the 1990s and 2000s and in this time period we're in even during just during Pisces with how much War there's been it's almost like it gets perpetuated because it can happen and it's it's allowed to happen but it only but I want to give a caveat to that for those who think that's a fearful and a very dark place to to exist him is that this is a beautiful concept to wrap your head around to understand is that if an age is the darker an age is and the more negative an age is it just means the more positive the next age will be and if you have an age where not much happens then it's kind of a wild card but that's how the a the energy flow works is the more negative a Troth of you know down negative energy of war and destruction happens the more positive the opposite end of that is going to be it's it's that interaction of energy right where it it has to balance itself that yiny exactly and that yin and yang is exactly a way to describe it and that is why we are on the cusp of transitioning into the age of Aquarius when overwhelmingly everyone knows everyone the universe knows it's an understanding that Aquarius will be the new positive if not golden age in humanity all right let me ask a few questions because I need more than 20 minutes considering these ancient texts that you that you've talked about like the Epic of atesus where they they describe these Gods creating humans for labor how does this align with our with our current understanding of human evolution and societal development how what's the alignment there that's such a difficult qu question to answer and I'll do the best I can of course I'm not a scientist I'm well studied but I'm not a scientist but I can tell you that there seems to be two things going on okay two things going on fundamentally we need to look at Evolution evolution is complex in my mind because it looks like evolution happens on a micro level so called micro Evolution and not on a macro level in my opinion so I'm not saying evolution is it real absolutely EV and what it means is micro changes in evolution are adaptations things like warmer coats or stronger right smarter things that were their local adaptations but there's an existing form we're going to call it right a form that exists as that being that form cannot just take any shape of any kind that doesn't make sense you cannot have a giraffe then turn into a whale you can't have you can't have a lion you know turn into like a porcupine they're not doesn't that doesn't make sense and the evidence behind that is probably the Platypus from Australia which is the weirdest species on the earth that is literally a mammal but it's a bird bird who also was venomous it's the weirdest creature on the entire planet and what it tells me is that there's something else going on here there's something else here going on and it's not because I mean look at us look look at us three 200,000 years ago yeah there was like a prim primitive homed here in the Andro Hall yeah absolutely and then before that Dennis sovian 100% in agreement and they were primitive comined beings and they had their limitations okay they didn't come from a cow no it it it doesn't that doesn't make sense is that there's there's something else going on here and there's something else that you find out through things like the enuma Elish and then reading some of the viic test text and it gets into this concept of not Christianity Creation in their aspect but some kind of a creation that occurs with like beings like through reality through manifestation okay and I think that we are also have that ability but we just don't understand how to unlock it yet like little children that have no concept how to be adults yet okay and they seem the anuna and these these Creator like beings they describe how they put the foundations in place to create the environment where things could Thrive like literally going and making a place hospitable talks about Earth in the enuma Lish it's really odd I will if anyone has never read the enuma Lish it's very bizarre because it talks about like a Proto Earth that didn't exist like it does now in collisions in our solar system and how specifically though they talk about this thing called Tiamat okay the more that I've studied Tiamat and I I know there's people that are going to listen to this inter disagreed my opinion because of zachar sitchin that's fine but my understanding in studying Tiamat and studying the new meish is that Tiamat was like an angry Proto Earth okay it was like an an earth that was completely unbalanced cuz there's this thread that's that's shown throughout Mesopotamia and ancient tablets of them coming and almost like Conquering the forces of nature okay like having to almost control over them and conquer them in order for what we are to be able to become manifested but in order for that to happen it would take billions of years wrap your head around that for a minute because crazy George Smith the greatest serologist Sumerian expert in history are none he's the John Anthony west of unlocking all this George Smith cracked the first Sumerian tablet in over a thousand years he is literally the hero of all this he studied more tablets than anyone else in the world and he's my personal hero and in his book The Chalan account of Genesis he summarizes everything he summarizes his understanding of all tablets everything the great grandfather of the samarians and he said that the only thing that makes sense to I'm paraphrasing only thing that makes sense to him looking at our history and and the role of the anuna the anuna was the original Sumerian name and anunaki became the Acadian Assyrian name he says the only thing that makes sense with them as a scientist is that they came backwards and forwards in Earth history for specific reasons he said that scientist the greatest mind of that time but he says backwards and forwards which to me only means time Travel how else would you describe that and if you read the Anum Alish about this like Proto Earth in creating the environment necessary where eventually something can happen it makes total sense that they would literally be part of the architects of our reality and that is exactly what it looks like is that evolutionary changes happen on a micro level but the these creatures that exist here and think that are here seem to be part of a much more complex process than that okay and we seem to be the very foundation and the the height and the purpose we'll call it and that's what's kind of wild about it it seems to be all for us I know that might be hard for some people to wrap their heads around but when they describe it they describe it as like creating animals but creating certain ones that could feed us and things that fish in the sea and they describe it as like creating a world that's perfect like a harmony with nature and all these things but almost to all be there so that we could then have a story so that we could then have something to then go off on this epic story um and then it would it' be like almost manifested as an experiment here on Earth we don't know if that's happening anywhere else we don't we don't know we don't even know where our souls come from like who knows if Souls even come from this universe but if it comes from Another Universe that we we don't exist in a physical form and this universe is literally the purpose of it is like a teaching Universe for souls to learn how to how to go through a physical body and how to experience all these things it's gets more and more bizarre and it truly feels like it's more of some kind of a simulation that is based on like a game of watching us ascending and growing and and upping up in our game only to be knocked down have to do it all over again it's like the ultimate form of entertainment yeah that's the that's the theory I subscribe to you talked about in the earlier part of the show that um Noah and the the animals and the Ark and all the different things for me when I read that and i' I've gone back to the Bible and read this now multiple times since I first uncovered what you just said it was that a more of a metaphor like there's no I they couldn't put all the animals on this Arc so was it sort of like a DNA compilation that they were collecting as opposed to actual animals the first thing I want to point out is that flood mentioned in the Deluge the the great flood that's mentioned those tablets I don't think is a flood across the entire planet obviously nothing would survive it's not like every continent had tsunamis that wiped out all of life no that's first of all we need to make that really clear but that doesn't mean there weren't parts of the planet that were literally wiped out and I do believe that there were places that the catastrophes were so severe that like nothing survived and then then things had to come back over time but imagine isolated areas of the earth that were completely destroyed which is why go look at a place like tiwanaku or go look at a place like um CF Temple at Lake vau you see evidence of things are just strewn everywhere like their blocks were picked up and just rolled in fact there's a place outside of Cusco in Peru um that is outside of oo in that area there's a gig gantic block a stone that's literally the size of like a building it I don't even know how many tons it must be it must be like 300 plus tons okay it's Gotta Be maybe a thousand tons anyway it's enormous and I don't know if people talk about this but it's really bizarre but this this giant massive Rock has a staircase carved into it beautiful beautiful staircase like highly ADV have you seen this yeah I have seen it highly Advanced staircase but it's upside down it's phenomen it's on the wrong it's like it's on the side where you obviously can't walk up it it's like up up you on the but what it what it means is imagine a wave a tsunami miles high so enormous that it could pick that rock up and just tumble it and just throw it somewhere and then just up upside down like that that's why all these civilizations were destroyed that's why even though they were masters of their reality and Masters they were trying to balance the Earth and they I think they were trying to prevent this actually younger dras specifically not the event before they didn't know about that but they seem to have the events because the younger dasas was like a 1500 year event of of events subsequently most of them around the world just didn't make it and it was like whoever survived tried to pass on that Legacy to indigenous and other groups and that's why we were knocked down in the Bronze Age because that's exactly how history is supposed to play out like kind of like a kind of a sick game actually of of causing us to go through that over and over again but but there's a teaching in it there's a purpose in it and I am beginning to think that this is important to say I am very much in the belief system with everything that I've studied is that maybe that cycle of getting knocked down is done I'm in under the belief that we are entering a golden age and that it's going to take us places we never been and that perhaps everything that's happened before us has been because of for right now so that we can look back at a mysterious time long ago to connect us to the earth and the universe at a time where we literally become lost in materialism and technology and Ai and become almost like machines some ways how else would you be able to connect back to the very Divinity of who you really are in the universe than to have the greatest Mysteries be held in civilizations that reach Great Heights and then we're then we're destroyed it would be the ultimate way to have something to look back on to be able to then put in in practice for where you are now and it would be plus you know truthfully it's like the most amazing story you could ever imagined and I think that's another big part of it too don't underestimate the idea of a good story okay yeah done for perpetuity done for boredness no no no the Golden Age you said your theory is that we're that we're done with the disasters and the bronze and we're moving into this golden age and then we're coming out of the Silver age right now in my opinion so will will this concept of this being knocked down are you saying that this Golden Age we're stepping into is this a new phase or that this is now for perpetuity going forward I I believe that the one thing that the Ancients didn't have that we have which is why we're going to make it is is the technological means we have why while technology can be your greatest destruction it can also be your greatest Ally in some ways I think that the Ancients did everything they could to balance and prevent the younger driest disasters but they weren't able to evidence for that is in Egypt and zakara with the giant Granite boxes and others in the Great Pyramid of Giza that some of them were blown open like energy surged through so powerful that it like blew them up to me that gets into my mind when you look at the function of the pyramids and this this concept is that perhaps there's some kind of harmonic energetic resonant balancer of the Earth because they're in conjunction with the ratio of the Moon and the Sun and so it makes sense to me that they're in a cohesion balance ing relationship there but whatever that event was events of the younger dras and I believe was a colonal mass ejection that was the primary cause of that but that event was so severe that it almost like overloaded their systems and then destroyed everything and then they were all like systematically wiped out from I mean look at Atlantis it's very well described that it literally sunk into the ocean through subduction the entire land mass that I believe was west of the of the azors and you can still see it very well on M batham metric CH charts you see a massive and Rand Carlson does a great job talking about how it's what's called a sub a submerged continent it's what it's called it's it's a it's a miniature submerged continent off of the azors and the azors are simply the volcanoes that stick above the water it's a whole land mass that it's subducted from plates and that's what we're beginning to see evidence of that's what happened literally to some of these civilizations is tectonic plates changes were so in in just over overwhelming and beond our comprehension that imagine imagine earthquakes that that plates are moving and tsunamis are going around the world and the climate's all chaotic and I mean Volcan volcanisms going off everywhere and it's just like a wild Earth um and that's I think what led to them ultimately just disappearing and it becoming a myth and a legend for us to find and then uncover those breadcrumbs that lead us back to the very story that we've been trying to figure out all along with who we are and what our place places in the universe so are you suggesting that the former human races that survived prior to us were aware of their imminent decline this imminent disaster that was about to C well remember when I was saying before about Lake Von in those in the in the the story of the Noah story is that I don't believe that that destruction was any part of the overas I think it was a complete different period like way earlier much much more ancient but but that event created the understanding that that happens so imagine the sons of Noah Shem and ham they repopulate like the seeds of humanity like is subscribed but in a way where they travel around and they rebuild and they create these incredible things do I have this yes I've never showed this to anyone in the world but it's going to be something I increasingly talk about okay about a year and a half ago I was investigating this just exploring and I came across anyone's never read this book this book right here okay this man John Taylor connected this in the 1800s he had a theory that Shem or Cham from the sentence of Noah built built the Great Pyramids of Giza and others and can I read a little a little thing from here really quick please do would you mind no please um I've wanted to read this for a long time there's an excerpt at the be at the end that almost like makes me want to tear up it's so powerful people don't don't talk like this anymore they don't understand things like we used to and this is a perfect example of it but I want to read this because it has to do with an understanding of the Ancients in a way where we forgot we forgot who we are we forgot where we've been and it's important that we finally find our way home and I want to read a little I want to read a little piece from this that is going to touch some people's hearts and it has to do with the sons of Noah and these this civilization of the ARs civilization but where they went doesn't talk about like vaugh or turkey it just simply talks about where they went and it but it focuses on Egypt because John Taylor was trying to he had strong theories that suggested that the Great Pyramids of Giza wasn't built by who we think it was actually built by the sons of Noah as this ancient I know and it and I end up finding evidence that I think supports the entire thing wow he's right I think he's 100% right and that gets into like well was th like one of the sons of Noah it gets into a deep realm of that but I want to read a couple sections from this where he talks about these Builders okay japi Shem and ham he talks about them moving around the world and doing things that are really bizarre and unusual but he specifically is focused on Egypt okay but imagine it's other places as well he says this on page 222 when he's kind of summarizing everything he says they came into the country as strangers they were not of the same race nor of the same religion as the mam who preceded them in their occupation they did not invade as conquerors but as it tells us they easily subdued the the local power without a battle like mystical like that's described what ver kosha did by the way in South America where the indigenous rose up against him and he did something magical and then they just sat back down and then listened to him just like what this says they must therefore have come either in such lar large numbers as to make opposition hopeless or they must have been received as benefactors by the common people it was only after their departure that their memory was was culminated by the stories told of their of their visit they were evidently aminated by a strong desire to perform a certain task and when they have accomplished it they left the country of their own accord confining the care of the original inhabitants of those wonderful works by which they had enriched and ennobled the land they never returned to claim any interest in the fruits of their labors but occupied some other country in which they erected no such monuments as these meaning they never built any other things such as the Great Pyramids of Egypt just like that it was specific to that location and and let me just read another couple little spots here because it's beautiful we can go a little bit longer it's okay okay he said this is so beautiful try to close your eyes and envision this for a minute to build monuments of so vast of size in which no human being was ever laid in the 1800s to build them for their own promise and then to leave them as soon as they were completed in order to go to some other country for the rest of their lives and to be be buried in some obscure Graves is too absurd a sub supposition to be entertained concerning any rational creatures for one purpose alone does it seem reasonable to conclude that any men should have under taken so prestigious a labor without looking for the slightest advantage to themselves and says it is evident then that they might serve as the pyramids might serve as a record and Memorial to the end of time to form a standard of measurement of length capacity and weight to which All Nations might appeal to the common Authority in their dealings with each other but to attribute to the founders so Grand and liberal design is to affirm that they were the greatest philosophers and the greatest benefactors the world ever knew this title shall be justified then in conferring upon the sons of Shem wow there it is Mr John Taylor a genius who connected this already in the 1800s and this is a book I think 99.9% of the world has never even heard of and it's an ancient loss book that I found and it came into my life for a very specific reason I believe but that is the kind of men we're talking about they're called the men of renown and they're talked about during Atlantis in the ancient protog Greek time period when something when we existed in a time when we were like demigods and we had an incredible understanding of our own Divinity and connection to the universe that we no longer have and I command John Taylor for allowing us to finally remember and bring to light how incredible those achievements and how incredible those men were and what they were leaving behind so that we could get to where we're going to go in the future it's like Perpetual time pieces all across the world you talked at the outset of the show about the agricultural being sort of the Epic of humanity like The Benchmark for for all great civilizations the discovery of this uniform and this these Advanced grain sites and I think you said shanidar cave it it clearly suggests some sort of artificial intervention that went on how does that I guess how does the implication of knowing that somebody had to or something had to have intervened to create this idea of Agriculture out of nowhere yeah how does that play into sort of what once once this information becomes mainstream which the hope is that it will how does that play out in sort of the the overall ethos of of us as a human species and what that means for us because that's going to rewrite literally everything that we thought we knew about who we were where we came from religion everything like it literally wipes It Out imagine that that is the single controlling factor in us right now not just controlling history or all these things but that factor you just said is what is holding us back our understanding and acceptance of what we are Beyond this to finally see this is what is now happening I remember I think I like literally remember the exact moment that I figured this out where you know years and years and years and years ago I remember being alone and I think I was outside and I was contemplating and I studied all the ancient stuff and what they were saying and I was like so we're not just alone in a random Universe where we don't matter and we just die and we turn into a grave and then the only people that are are are remembered are the ones that either did something terrible or are the these rare heroes in history and really if if someone decided to push a button on a nuclear weapon we would all just be systematically destroyed through the Collision of everything that would happen and then we would be we disappear and no one would ever know about our story and it would just be like a blip in in the Universal timeline of everything that exists that mindset is what has controlled Humanity that mindset that we don't matter that we're insignificant that we're nothing nothing more than an evolve ape that then can take and consume the resources around him them and just take take take take and think that just because we're smart that we're the top of the evolutionary chain and so it gives us dominion over everything in a way where haha like we can no we need to strip all of that away destroy that eagle side of of us and and surrender to our place in the universe as being a fundamental role that we're playing in the entire outcome of this like a great stage and that I think the most beautiful thing and I I I remember crying when I came to that realization I remember that because it was like I had known my entire life that we weren't just insignificant and nothing and that when you have that moment where you realize it it's like the most beautiful moment of your entire life because you realize that you're part of the most incredible story that's ever been told and it changes everything on how you view reality and that is where we're going to what's so phenomenal to me about a lot of this and it's hard to pick one Central topic that really blows my mind but to think that there was a species of something that came here and created us potentially genetically modified us and created who we are today means that there was something or someone or some entity that's greater than them which sort of controls maybe they're millions of years in advance from us but something else bigger controls even that and so how big does that ultimately get like where does that end and and so so when you you talked about a simulation and there's somebody programming us for me like if you really just stop and sit and think in my lame in mind here I'm like that is literally mindboggling to consider well but I this is where I differ from some of my colleagues and I have total respect for their opinions in this but my personal opinion is that we've been looking at this completely wrong we've been looking this this in lens of like an extraterrestrial UFO coming from somewhere else and I think it's wrong oh really I just yes I do not I do not think that's how we should look at this okay I think we should look at this as everything that I've studied is that the anuna are in rather than being like an alien or extraterrestrial they're more like angels and demons and we are too we are we we are them so they we were we we know because it's described in the tablets that we were created literally exactly in their image okay so it's not like they're like some gray alien that came here and they're like and then they create us with like no it's I don't believe that I think a lot of that is a sop to scare us and that the reality is that is that it's probably way too difficult for inter species that are civilizations that are in another star system first of all the progression of techn technology and Consciousness would make it so that your evolution of your Consciousness and energy would end up outpacing your technological means eventually you know what that means say it again we see we keep thinking that technology is the greatest height we're ever going to achieve okay I understand yeah I think it's a very misleading thing and I would love to talk to Elon Musk about that but I don't I think that it's wrong I think it's just a factor I think it's a piece of our development as technology I think the greatest thing in terms of evolutionary wise that we go down that road is about that journey within and then becoming like Gods unlocking these these inherent things within us that have been dormant telekinesis all these abilities we have within us to literally realize that Consciousness is not localized to the brain and then we're part of a Quantum like existence that is all over the universe so if the universe is that's how it works is that our that we are quantum being then why aren't they of course they are they're the same as we are but they're way more powerful in my opinion I think they're and this is hard for some people to wrap their heads around but I think their their role are is creators in the universe from a from a prime source and I think that Prime Source or God is not something that can interact and be a part of it I think it's like you lay out it's like almost like if you have like the outline of a story written but then how it actually plays out you can't touch it like it's almost like you become the totality of it all and then you allow it all unfold and and go based on Free Will and Destiny see those are the two things that are going to collide here M the concepts of Free Will and Destiny are huge in this because I feel like a lot of our lies are based on the combination of both it's not one or the other it's both and what that means is if Destiny is as important as free will I think it means that the destiny of where we go is already determined and it's more about like seeing how the story unfolds like there's no way that it's going to get there imagine you know how a movie ends right you pop it in oh my God remember back in the a VHS yeah you remember right where somebody like doesn't rewind it and like you pop it remember you pop a VHS in it's like at the end you're like no and then you gotta remember people don't remember 15 minutes to rewind it we imagine you pop that VHS in and you see Humanity like we'll we'll sa what that what that is for another conversation but you see us in this Divine place of we don't even need our bodies anymore something incredibly powerful and then you're like then you then then you rewind that VHS and you're like halfway through and we're like killing each other in the Middle Ages ah and then you know and like in the religious institutions are like controlling people and there's war and bombs going off and nuclear weapons and submarines attacking each other and planes bombing everyone you're like how in the heck do they go from that to that like no way like no way and I think even the Creator beings the anuna these Angelic likee beings that made us are even wondering that too they're like no way really truly gets into this perfectives of our story and how everything in the universe is perfect everything is literally perfect perfect balance Perfect Harmony and what we perceive as not being perfect is simply the eban flow and The Duality in poity that is a constant Cosmic law in the universe and that we are simply playing out that microcosm of the macrocosm of the entire thing and that that is what our story truly is and that instead of thinking about visitations from a ship that's going to land and we're finally going to learn the truth of everything I think it's going to come in a very different form than that Deo I think it'll come with an understanding of the invisible aspects of our reality and the higher Realms of our reality that exists all around us where that unveiling will come from because truly it's not about needing to go somewhere else it's about being in the right place in the right State and we are finally learning how to break free of that illusionary like that horse that's you know the horse that's running that runs on a track in racing where it has those blinders on we're finally taking those blinders off right now and it's a beautiful thing that's why I want people to feel safe and um maybe not scared about where we're going because even though it's it's a a scary story at times it all stories always have a happy ending yeah I've never bought into the Alien Invasion I still don't think it's possible if if assuming that you are right to some extent I I believe they're already here they have never left like they were they were here before us and anything you see and I tell this to everybody like it's just going to be a holographic Invasion to sort of like create this Black Swan event so my question around that then is where are they right now are they just sort of sitting on the side watching observing we're just being observed our entire reality is like a it's like a reality show like a game show I think okay and I think that we are of great interest to the universe in how this unfolds because it's described how that we're an experiment that something that what happen here is something that maybe hasn't happened and that is an experiment and everyone's sort on the edge of their seat watching how this experience unfolds but there are puppeteers we'll call them okay there are puppeteers that are that are puppeteers based on Cycles intricately woven into our reality in a way where we don't understand where they are like the cycle Masters okay try to raer header on that that term Pander that's the story of Pander Pander and Hermes go read into that and I encourage anyone who hasn't read hermetic text like the Pander story with Hermes and the dragon go read that because basically what it tells us is that we're just playing in this in this game this Cosmic game of Duality and that these cycle Masters determine each age and we are we are literally like actors in that and that each person can f can can end up playing a fundamental role in that story to either become like the hero or the villain or like as as I say like an extra sort of like in the background and they and it and it doesn't you can you can decide whatever role you want to play but what's really fascinating to me is that when Destiny gets involved it's like well at what point does someone need to do something and I think that that's something I want I want everyone listening to this to wrap their heads around is that doesn't matter who you are doesn't matter if you have a degree it matters what your heart and your intention is because you can do anything you want in the world you can change the world it's a good message to to end on Matt I could I could have conversations with you for hours I have I didn't I didn't get through a fraction yeah I didn't get through a fraction of my question I'm happy to come back on but okay we'll do we'll do a part three all right tell us what you're working on with this movie when when can we expect this movie that you're putting out so we are heading to do full surveying scouting pre- survey trips coming up in Spring and so get ready for a lot of stuff on that as well and then the filming will be part of a second uh second and third trip so there'll be numerous trips to all these locations to get ready to basically hike in dive travel and I'll say travel in various ways to get to these places to have it more it's it's a film that going to be an experience an amazing experience with experts that are on a journey on an expedition to change all of history from every Walk of Life of every expertise to come and show their analysis of every location and then to go to other places of the world and try to connect that lost narrative say what if is this truly connected and to try to piece that together and then to bring it together in a way where we can create a story a story about what we've forgotten about who we are that that encompasses everything and gets into the heart of who we truly are and the core in the core of these symbols that go far back before Christianity we didn't even get to talk about any of that side I know and I'm s that'll be part three that'll be perfect one for part three but basically imagine we have the very first cross ever in history at ianas the first cross ever not the crucifix though a cross exactly equal that represents the totality of Harmony and balance both within and the entire universe and the Earth they understood that those are the necessary components or if you want to reach Ascension there's certain doorways that you must walk through first and so this film will be about bringing that lost knowledge to humanity and we already looking at a major major production that if people are interested you can actually be a part of it you can still contribute towards it and if you if you contribute a certain amount you can actually be in the credits of the film so go to the stageof time.com and you can check out if you want to be involved in that but it's it's an amazing journey and experience and I want to just say that again it has gotten the attention of some very powerful people in the world who have come to me and they're interested in being a part of this and I will I can't mention names but it's very very exciting and my work in this and the legacy of this will be preserved and I will spend the rest of my life Deo studying Lake vaugh and the connection with this civil these civilizations literally probably until the day I take my last breath it's my life's Mission well congratulations to you for your new Enterprise the ionis Legacy that's fantastic if if you want to find out some more information I'm directing people to the stage of time.com still is that the best place to still okay great yeah it's all been updated I I spent a lot of time with that we updating that so it's got a a whole new look to it if you haven't been there recently yeah I I have many times again I follow you pretty religiously and and I have joke with you man but I'm curious if there's ever an opportunity that you need help with something or there's a way I can be involved in the photography the video to just like tell this story dude I'm all in so let you know I know you've got a crew and all the things but steo I need I need you in Turkey Bud you're like all right I'll be right there right dude I'm not joking like I'm packed and ready to go passports in hand I travel a lot so okay um I'm fascinated by the work that you're doing I think it's brilliant and um I would love to take you up on the offer for for round three we didn't we didn't even get to get into the religious stuff that I we'll absolutely do it okay we can talk when I get back how about that okay brilliant man thank you so much for your time I you gave me two hours I know you're a busy dude so I really appreciate it and um all the best to you in this adventure and I'm gonna be watching very closely with it it's appreciated it my friend it was a great conversation till next time as always thanks Matt see you brother

Channel: Unlearn Everything

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Keywords: Unearthing Hidden Histories with Matt LaCroix, matthew lacroix, Unlearn Everything Podcast, Hidden Histories with Matt LaCroix, podcast, interview, Defying Mainstream Narratives, Decoding Ancient Sites, Ancient Texts & Human Evolution, Advanced Beings & Civilization, Unearthing the Truth, Closing Thoughts & How to Connect, Suppressed Civilizations

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Length: 104min 9sec (6249 seconds)

Published: Sun Feb 04 2024