Hello, I am Professor John Kelly and this is the
WeberAuto youtube channel. Today I am excited because we are going to go through a performance
motor from the rear of a Tesla Model S P90D from the model year 2016. Now our school here,
our automotive program actually, has a 2018 P100D, but they wouldn't let me disassemble
that one so I searched all over tried to find a rear-drive unit which is the motor
the gearbox, the inverter, everything all together and as you can see here in this photo. I finally
found one that we could afford. It is a burned-up one, it was a from a car fire and I thought "Well
how hard can it be to just clean all that smoke and soot off of there" and I will tell you it was
a mistake to buy. Never buy anything that's been from a burned vehicle. We spent way too much
time trying to clean this thing up and of course, it has some damage to the electronics, but
I wasn't so concerned about that as I was the gears and the some of the neat things
that I like to look at in my videos and so let's get started looking at the pieces of the
performance rear motor on a Tesla Model S. I've got the housing right here of the gearbox, one
half of the housing, the other half of the housing is on the other side of the stator housing
back here on the other side of the bench, but inside of this housing right here we have places
for three bearings to sit. We have places for the three-phase cables from the stator to come
through, and then we have two coolant passages, that we'll look at a little bit later, and it
and as a matter of fact I want to divide this video into four separate sections. So section
one that we're doing right now is the gears and the motor, Section two will be some unique things
about these bearing,s they're pretty incredible. Section three will be on lubrication,
these bearings require some special lube in order to withstand the high rpm that
they operate or can operate at, and then the fourth section will be on the cooling
system to keep that oil cool so that the bearings will continue to survive along with the
rotor and the stator to keep everything cool. As with any other transaxle transmission we have
to have a final drive gear, the differential unit, so we have the differential case from this
P90D Model S. and the very first time I split the case and got this thing apart, and
saw this gear sitting there sideways in this gear reduction unit, some people call it a
transmission, it's a gear reduction unit, it does not shift, it's a one-speed gear
reduction unit, but I started laughing because this has the biggest bearings
I've ever seen on a differential of a front-wheel-drive or rear-wheel-drive
transaxle style with the helical cut gears. So this ring gear is monstrous, it's a
213-millimeter diameter ring gear and it's 50 millimeters thick, that's incredible, and
it's held to the differential case with 16 bolts which is pretty unusual. There are other cars,
front-wheel-drive cars, that vans and so on that also have 16 bolts holding that ring gear on
but they're not 50 millimeters thick either, but the thing that really made me laugh was this
bearing back here. This bearing is 110 millimeters in width and it's just a monster and so we'll
take a look at some of the specifications on these bearings here in a little bit but a
differential is a differential this thing operates just like any other open differential and the maximum, well let's see this differential
has 78 teeth on it, and the maximum rpm that this differential rotates at the top speed of
this 2016 P90D Model S at 155 miles an hour this is only spinning at 1841 RPM, so this
is the slowest spinning part in all of this gear reduction unit, so by comparison
I've disassembled two other EV or Electric Vehicle gear reducers, and I just
want to show you uh how they compare to the Tesla performance model right here. Now I know
this is comparing apples and oranges because this is a performance model and these other
two are not but this next one that I have right here is from a Chevrolet Bolt EV and it
has, instead of 16 bolts holding the ring gear on, it has 12. It has some decent sized bearings but
they're smaller than the Tesla one and look at the height difference in the ring
gear, it's only 34 millimeters thick rather than 50 millimeters thick, and then
if we bring in the little Nissan Leaf, it has eight bolts holding the ring gear on and
it only has a 32-millimeter wide ring gear right there. So I know these vehicles were not
made for performance and I'm not trying to make fun of them or downplay them, I'm just showing
you how big this Tesla performance differential is compared to other EVs on the market, and as
a matter of fact in any other front-wheel drive or rear-wheel drive transaxle that's out there. Okay, here's a few other photos showing the differences in the physical size
of these differentials and ring gears now let's put this Model S differential
into the gear reduction unit housing with these big ball bearings. They just slide down into the housing but
it's a lot harder to do than it sounds, so once that's fully seated we can move on
to the next gear which is our countershaft and it has two gears on it it has the
pinion gear that drives this ring gear here, and this pinion gear has 25 teeth, and
the ring gear has 78, and if you take the 78 teeth on the ring gear and divide it by
the 25 teeth on the counter driven gear then we get a gear ratio of 3.12 between these
two gears, and then it also has a counter drive gear that has the same 78 teeth that the ring
gear of the differential has except they're much smaller, and they are driven by 25 teeth that
hooks to the motor shaft so let me set this counter gear down in now, take my sticker off just like that put my sticker on
the top here instead of the bottom. Alright, at the top speed of the vehicle at
155 miles an hour or 250 kilometers per hour this shaft spins at 5743 RPM which is
3.12 times faster than the differential by the way, the differential turns the same
speed as your rear tires so on our P100D and on the P90Ds that I've researched, the rear
tires are a little bit taller than the front tires and so it's just the rear tires that this differential will spin at the same speed as. Okay so uh the next shaft that we have I don't
know the exact name I just call it the motor shaft because this shaft connects directly
to the motor and it has 25 teeth on it that drive the 78 teeth of the counter
drive gear so we get another 3.12 gear reduction so I'm going to take this shaft now
the motor shaft and put it down in its bearing just like that. Now these bearings on the
motor shaft have to handle the rotational speed of that motor shaft and of the motor
itself because they're all connected together and we'll take a look at the motor here in just
a moment but I did the math for the tire size that come came on the rear of that
2016 P90D, and at the 250 kilometers per hour or 155 miles per hour this shaft in
these bearings is spinning at 17,919 RPM it's almost so almost 18,000 RPM the motor
is spinning if you run your vehicle up to the top speed, which of course you better
do on a track somewhere rather than breaking the legal speed limit but those are some
incredible speeds. Now of course most people will never get anywhere near those speeds but those
speeds require special lubrication pumping up the special oil through these bearings to keep
them cool at the higher speeds, and special cooling system to keep that oil cool. So anyway
now we've got, if I tip it up on its side here, we just have our motor shaft spinning the counter
drive gear spinning the counter driven gear spinning our differential our
differential case and our tires and that gives us an overall gear reduction
of 3.12 from here to here multiplied by 3.12 from this gear to the final drive which gives
us an overall gear ratio of 9.7334:1so 9.7344 rotations of
the electric motor to one rotation of the tire . All right now let's bring in the electric
motor. This motor weighs 27 and a half kilograms just a little over 60 pounds which is
more than I'm able to just toss around and so I'm going to set it in some "V" blocks made of
wood here to show you a few things about this about this rotor. Okay uh the first thing is that
the P90D this the version of this rear-drive unit was only from 2015 through 2016. the part
number of this rear-drive unit ends in the letter Q and the part number of the rear-drive
unit in our 2018 P100dDends in the letter R, so there's been one more revision somewhere
for the increased performance of the 100 kilowatt hour battery, but I would imagine they're very
close to the same, maybe some differences in bearings, so let's take a look at some
specifications here this is a three-phase four-pole AC induction motor. This has no
permanent magnets in it, this is an induction motor. It is rated at 370 kilowatts or 503 horsepower
unless you put it in Ludicrous mode, in which it goes up to 391 kilowatts or 532
horsepower. It has a peak torque of 469 pound-feet of torque or 636 newton meters, and that
is in Ludicrous mode I could not find any torque specs for regular mode so if any of you know
what those are or if these numbers are incorrect i've had to go back in the wayback machine on
the time machine on the internet to find some old Tesla documents to get these specifications, i
didn't pull them off anybody else's website, this is Tesla only specs that I found now as I
mentioned before we have a gear reduction from the motor to the tires of 9.7344, I think I said 334 before but this one is correct the 9.7344:1 and that's rotations of this rotor, it takes 9.7 of them to get one
rotation of your tires and as I said before also this rotates up to 17,919 rpm at 250 kilometers
per hour. Now uh when I first heard that number the 18,000 rpm, I thought, well I wonder what kind
of bearings that is using, because the later Toyota Priuses have motors that spin up to 17,000
rpm at their top speed but their top speed is only I forget it it's just barely over 100 miles
an hour I believe, and this goes up to one 155 and the new Model S that was just announced
goes up to 200 miles an hour, so I'm really curious to see what they have for bearings, but so there's
some very unique things about these bearings. There were some bearing failures early on on the
Model S and they switched to what everybody calls a ceramic bearing, it is a ceramic,
it's called a silicon nitride according to SKF's website. Now SKF is the bearing manufacturer
for the majority of the bearings in this gear reduction unit and here
for the motor these bearings the ball bearing portion of the bearings
are made of a non-conductive material so if i turn this around here let's zoom in so you
can take a look at the balls in the ball bearing see how they are not the shiny silver
typical ball bearing that you would see in any other bearing there's kind of
the dark color that is that silicon nitride and both front and rear bearings
on this motor are non-conductive so there's no electrical current that can run
through there no arcing that can occur and damage the bearing like what happened on
some of the earlier models from what I read the balls are 60 percent lighter than the previous
ones which means they have less mass and can spin at higher rpm, they don't expand like steel
bearings do and so they can run at higher rpm it takes a special lubricant. there's
a special seal that I've pried off that goes on the outside so the seal is this
dark seal and this is the lubricant that's on the the back side of it but normally that would be right here covering up those ceramic balls so that
you couldn't see them, but I wanted to see them so very interesting bearings these bearings have
no external lubrication fed to them, they have no external cooling system fed to them, and this rotor
does not spin in oil transmission fluid coolant, it's a dry spin inside of a sealed housing. Okay
as you can see the copper color here on the end of this rotor, the rotor does have a copper core,
you can see some of the connector bars on either end they appear to be just straight through without
being tilted or twisted on the front of the motor we have a speed sensor reluctor wheel right here this
two tooth ring, on an induction motor we just need to monitor the rotational speed of the rotor
of the induction motor, not its actual relative position, so just need to know the speed. Both
bearings, this one here and the one in the back we just looked at, are the same part number from
SKF. I tried to find this bearing on their website it is not there. Other bearings of the same
type are there but this part number is not available on their website or in their catalog from what I could see. let's take this rotor and put it into the gear shaft now for the rotor and see the whole gear train put together. Okay that's quite a chore putting that in there but as you can
see it just connects directly to that motor shaft and as it rotates 9.7344 times we end up with one rotation of the final drive unit itself that
hooks to our cv shafts cv half shafts. Here's the end of a cv half shaft the tripod or
tripod joint that just slides right into a side gear and there's another one that comes in from
the other side, so as your electric motor turns so so do your cv half shafts and your tires all right so this is pretty basic stuff there's as
far as the gear train is concerned there's nothing magical about this other than
it's just big and heavy duty but as I mentioned before these bearings to
withstand the high rpm that they have to at the maximum vehicle speed and even faster on
the newer ones have to be some special bearings now I mentioned before that the Toyota Prius
MG1 and MG2 rotors on the latest generation 2016 and above can spin clear up to 17 000 rpm
but there are these little tiny lightweight rotors compared to this thing, these
bearings have got to hold the big heavy rotor and handle a whole bunch of torque at the
same time, so an interesting thing is that the rotor itself is only supported by these two
little silicon nitride deep groove ball bearing, non-conductive bearings, and that just
spins inside of the stator assembly back here. Let's take a look
at the stator for a moment. We have a stator housing cover that fits right
here and we have a bearing, a non-locating bearing, so it moves just slightly as the rotor heats up
and cools down, and then the locating bearing is all the way in the bottom of the bore here.
The locating bearing is the one that holds solid it doesn't move with expansion and contraction
of the metals as they heat up and cool down. This is a 60 slot stator assembly, it has 60 segments. I'm not sure how many poles it has i'm not sure how
it's wound but if any of you know let me know because I couldn't find anything
anywhere as to how many poles it has, i know the motor is a 4-pole. This stator assembly with
the housing that it's in weighs 125 pounds or 56.7 kilograms. This thing is heavy very heavy it's
not something you can just toss around easily and especially if it has the rotor inside of it. On the other side of this stator housing if we turn it around we've got
the other half of the gearbox so our differential locating bearing that holds
solid and doesn't move is right here, our countershaft locating bearing goes right here, and
our motor shaft locating bearing goes right here. Now notice we've got an oil pump, there's an oil
pump pickup tube right here there's a magnet for any metal particles in the special fluid in
this thing and then we've got kind of a windage tray to keep the movement of the ring gear from
sloshing up the oil that's trying to be picked up by the oil pump. So the oil pump has this 23
tooth driven gear right here and this is driven off of that 78 tooth ring gear which means it's
overdriven by the ring gear about a little over three times, so whatever ring gear speed is this
oil pump spins three times faster than that and this oil pump has one job and it's not to
lubricate all these gears it's to keep those bearings alive at high rpm, so if we look at the output of this pump it has this kind of a t-shaped except with three outlets uh piece coming off of
it this piece right here that goes back into this housing for the bearing feeds three evenly spaced
oil holes that go into the back of the bearing and then force fluid through to the front
and that's on that motor shaft bearing and then this tube right here sprays across to
the other bearing so our motor shaft has two different bearings on it, and then the center
piece right here sprays on the motor drive gear because this is the gear that's going to have all
that torque put to it, so the big deal here is that the rotor of this motor spins on those
two little lightweight, non-lubricated, non-externally lubricated, non-cooled ceramic
silicon nitride bearings, but it turns the motor shaft and the motor shaft has to handle all of
the thrust torque from rotating and turning that counter drive gear and the counter driven gear in
the end then that gear drives the ring gear. So with what did we say um 636 newton meters
maximum, 469 pound-feet of torque, on the rear motor here, that's a lot of torque, and these bearings
have to, they have to be very strong to be able to handle that amount of torque, and
they require a lot of lubrication and this pump as I mentioned only has one job and that's to keep
those two bearings lubricated on the motor shaft and also to spray oil on the motor shaft drive
gear where it meshes with the counter-driven gear. So that's pretty incredible when I first opened
this up and I saw that oil pump I thought oh it's lubricating all these bearings and whatever
else, no it's just the motor shaft uh bearings and the gear so when I looked up the part numbers
for the two bearings on that motor shaft have to spin clear up to 18 000 rpm, I just wanted to
see what the specifications were on the bearings. Were these also a special silicon nitride bearing or not? and they're not, they're, it's a special high-quality bearing, I think they call it
their Explorer Series bearing, but an interesting thing in the table I found on these is that one
of these, well there are two speed ratings for each bearing. There's one called a reference speed which
one of them is at 20,000 RPM, the other one is at 18,000, and then there's a Limiting Speed which is a mechanical limiting speed without any doing anything extra, with
no external lubrication, or anything of 13,000 and 11,000 on those bearings,
but then I saw a little note that said you can run bearings higher than those speeds if you do
some special things, so the catalog says it is possible to operate a bearing at speeds above
its reference speed, its adjusted speed, or even its limiting speed. So we're running these bearings
above the limiting speed, it says before doing so make sure you do a thorough analysis and
take whatever further measures may be required such as the use of special cage executions
or consider using high precision bearings. regarding management of the effects of increased speed consider the following options. So listen to these options and let's see what how they compare
to what tesla did here control the resulting increase in bearing temperature by additional
cooling so this pump here running fluid constantly through these these two bearings uh gives it
the extra cooling compensate for any reduction in bearing clearance resulting from increased
bearing temperature so the bearings get hot and then the balls expand and we don't want them
binding and so the bearings that are in these are special high clearance bearings there's a
clearance that's above the the regular bearing and then there's two, three, four, five, other things
two of the most important ones in regard to the Tesla motors are: Ensure that the lubricant
and lubrication method used are compatible with the higher operating temperature of the
cage execution, so as i mentioned before it's a special lubricant this isn't just gear oil, this
isn't just regular automatic transmission fluid, Tou need to stick with the tesla
recommended oil for this and then check that the re-lubrication interval is still
acceptable particularly for grease lubricated bearings oil lubrication may be required and so
Tesla is using oil lubrication. so they've done what they need to do to run these bearings at
higher speeds and of course you're not going to be running at top speed all day long every day
and so it's probably not a huge concern for most people but it's very interesting the
things that they have done in this gearbox. All right now as far as lubrication I've mentioned
that takes a special lubrication I don't know what it is i don't know where to get it other than at
a tesla service center so if any of you know what it really is and don't just tell me it's Dexron -VI, I've read that I don't believe that at all (See corrections in video description) let's share in the comments below what it is. All right now as far as draining the oil from the gearbox, right here on
the bottom of the gearbox there's a drain plug and right here on the side, there's an oil
fill and oil level check I assume but the Tesla service information that
I've accessed is less than helpful. Alright on this housing let's take a
look at a few other things while we're here there's a vent here on the gearbox
side and then there's a separate vent for the inverter the power electronics portion of
that I mentioned that this drive unit is out of a car that burned down but I was able to clean up
the tag enough that we could read the word Sport right there and that's just like the
the tag in the P100D that we have it also says Sport up here in in the part number
and description above that so this is the the Sport version of the motor I
mentioned that vent for the gearbox this drive unit has three different areas that are sealed off from each other. We have everything that's in the gearbox that we've looked at and it
has the special gear oil in it as we've discussed, but that needs to be totally sealed from getting
into the inverter area where the electronics are, it needs to be totally sealed from the anti-freeze
cooling passages that run through this drive unit as well, and it needs to be sealed from getting in
where the rotor is because that's a dry area. and so there's special seals and o-rings all
over the place to keep those separated and so if you're planning on taking one of these apart
and then putting it back together to reuse it you better keep all that in mind because one
leak of one especially any type of fluid into the inverter area is going to cause some some major problems. okay well let's look at how this drive unit is cooled. if we look at the back
cover of the stator assembly, if you look at this photo of our P100D here on the hoist you can see that it has an inlet hose coming from the front of the vehicle and I haven't traced where it comes or where it goes to in the front of the vehicle but i'm sure it ends up at the chiller eventually
through some sort of a switching valve and a radiator to get cooled down and then it comes back. We have this piece right here and that inlet hose connects right here now
since this is out of a burned up vehicle the plastic inlet fitting melted off but this
is where the coolant would come into this drive unit. Now as it comes into the drive unit it
goes two ways, one way is that it goes up and then all the way down the middle of this
hollow shaft right here and this hollow shaft with a seal sticks down inside of this rotor assembly
the induction rotor now an induction rotor runs hotter than the internal permanent magnet motors that a lot of other vehicle manufacturers use so it runs coolant down through the center
of the rotor where it's blocked off at the bottom and then it has to come back up around the outside of this tube where it goes through this seal and then it goes up and out the top right
here and as it goes up and out of the top there it connects to a pipe that we'll look at here in a moment. So that's one direction that coolant goes from that fitting that you saw in
that photo the other direction is it just goes down and through this fitting
right here which connects to this passage which on the other side is just a straight
pass-through passage so you can see you can see light through there and then that
feeds right here into the bottom of the stator so the stator is cooled all the way around by
anti-freeze, a special antifreeze that tesla wants you to use, so it comes in the bottom goes up and around, and then if we switch this around here you can see that it comes out on the top right
here where it then goes through our gearbox housing right here and down to feed and cool
the inverter IGBTs that run the three-phase power to the stator assembly and we'll
take a look at those here in just a moment. The next part of the cooling system is
that with if we put this cover back on here right there and we get our inlet and our rotor
cooler, oh by the way this other hole right here is for the speed sensor for that toothed wheel
on the top of the rotor assembly, but what i wanted you to see here is that as the coolant
leaves the rotor and comes up through that hole there's a pipe right here and this pipe plugs into
that outlet coolant from the rotor and it comes up front here to a hole in the gearbox where it goes through right here and goes into the other half of the
gearbox so now we are ready to look at the cooling passages in the other half of the gearbox .Oh
by the way, this wire right here coming out by our three-phase connectors for the stator has four wires, two blue and two green. I believe these are stator temperature sensors, there's probably
an inlet and an outlet temperature I believe. Okay, that pipe with a little hole that
went through the other half of the gearbox lines up with this hole right here and
it comes through this coolant passage I've got labeled coolant flow going down, we've
got the coolant flow coming from the stator going through and now let's look at the other side. Okay the coolant from the stator comes in and goes through this passage right here
and it ends up on the inside of these three sets of holes right here, so these three inside
holes are where the coolant from the stator comes. now notice there's a temperature sensor right here
measuring the temperature of the coolant coming from the stator, there are three sets of these
holes because they cool three sets of IGBTs, capacitors, and other electronics, that are all
here to control the current and the voltage at the three-phase connections at the stator assembly itself. Now I've taken this cooling passage apart on this IGBT module, and as
you can see there are all kinds of little buttons, whatever you want to call them, I don't know
how to describe them sticking up heat sinks to transfer heat from the 32 IGBTs that are
on the other side here, and you can see this definitely got burned up, into the coolant
as it comes through now if we compare this housing with the two the two fittings
here this housing is going to bolt right there and so if the coolant comes in on the
inside one then that's this hole right here, so that is going to come in and go up this
channel right here spread out to these four holes and come up across all of those little
heat sink pins and then go back in and come out on this hole right here which is the
outside hole on these four or three cooling passages and once it goes
in to those outer ones you can see, well you can see a cast channel where
the coolant comes in from the stator then it cools all three sets of IGBT
modules and then it goes out through this passage right here and there's an outlet
coolant temperature sensor right here also and then it goes over and there's a hole right
here and notice there's a whole bunch more heat sink pins right here on the gearbox side and
that little tiny hole that came from that pipe back here on the stator housing feeds coolant into
this hole and then the coolant runs through all of these little pins where there's a heat exchange
between the hot transmission oil and the coolant so it transfers heat into the
coolant and there's a there's a plate that fits right here that bolts down, you can
see in this photo here from the one in our car what it looks like in the car, and
then it has this fitting right here that bolts right there that is the outlet to go
back inside under the back seat to a water pump where it's pumped through the onboard charging
module and then back out to go back to the front of the car. So we've got the cooling
system for this the stator housing, we've got a cooling system to cool the induction rotor, and
as I mentioned before they get a lot hotter than internal permanent magnet rotors
because they have current running through them where the permanent magnet ones do not. And then after the stator and the rotor are cooled the stator fluid comes in and cools all the IGBT
modules and then goes out of the gear unit here and then the coolant from cooling the rotor
comes in over here and helps cool the gear oil and then it comes out this same fitting here
underneath the car to go up front to have the heat removed from it or added to the passenger
compartment heat from what I have read and understand but I have not physically traced that to verify that that's true. Okay so with all of these IGBT modules bolted up here
in the shape of a triangle as you can see here in this photo, the last part to bring in would
be the inverter cover itself and so it bolts on right here and before I knew anything about
Tesla motors drive units I thought this was another electric motor but even though it's
round like the stator assembly on the other side it's not a motor it's just a cover
for the electronics that are in there. Now on the front cover for this
inverter assembly cover we have two great big holes right here for the positive
and negative high voltage cables from the high voltage battery underneath the
car so they come in and plugin right here let's see this one is the battery positive
it's actually cast into the the cover and this is battery negative and then there
was before it melted out a low voltage black electrical connector there for
data communication, power ground, wake up signals, and whatever else there may be, drive
accelerator position, and so on I'm sure other information sent to the inverter to drive the vehicle. So this is the inverter cover.
Okay we've looked at a lot of stuff here on this 2016 Tesla Model S P90D rear drive unit I
believe it is very very similar to the P100D in the 2017 and above and of
course the new released one that's got the two individual rear motors is
totally different that has just been released or announced. but I have, for this same 2016 Tesla, I have the front electric motor that we'll look at and it's different, I mean
it's similar but it's got some major differences and then I've got all the power electronics,
everything all the high voltage cables all the high voltage electrical components on the Tesla
Model S, we're going to lay it all out and show you what's connected to what and how it works and then we'll do the same thing for model 3. I've got a rear motor a front motor and the power electronics to go with that. If you've enjoyed what you've seen here today and you feel like
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This is what we've been waiting for. EVs need car nerds to realize there's so much to nerd out about on motors, gear ratios, and efficiency. Its super interesting and plenty of ways to go down the rabbit hole. Fun!
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Great video, I want to see more. Would love to see the comparison between the non-P DU, the front DU and the 3/Y DU.
This was excellent!
This is amazing,
Anyone have more resources like these?
very nice!!
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