>>> NEW REPUBLICAN DOCUMENTS >>> NEW REPUBLICAN DOCUMENTS SHOW HOW THE PARTY IS STARTING TO REBRAND AS POP LIST AND AGAINST SOME CORPORATIONS, WHICH LEADS TO THIS NEW RECURRING TALK OF "WOKE" COMPANIES, WHICH IS DRAWING SOME MOCKERY. >> LETS JUST CUT TO THE CHASE. THE BIG TECH PLATFORMS ARE OWNED AND OPERATED BY "WOKE" CAP LALISTS. THEYRE LEFTISTS. THEYRE LIBERALS. >> THERE IS NO WAY MARK ZUCKERBERG IS WOKE. AT BEST, HES SWITCHED ON. >> THERE ARE OTHER REASONS THIS DOES NOT ADD UP OTHER THAN THAT. AS WE HAVE REPORTED RIGHT HERE ON "THE BEAT," THIS TALK DIDNT COME OUT OF NOWHERE. IT ECHOES A WAY FOR REPUBLICANS TO SAY THEYRE CONFRONTING CORPORATIONS AND REPRESENTING WORKING CLASS VOTERS, FROM THE ATTACK ON WOKE COMPANIES AND BIG TECH TO PICKING A FIGHT WITH CHINA THAT EMPHASIZES SUPPORT FOR WORKING AMERICANS. NOW KEEP IN MIND THESE ARE BASICALLY TELEGRAPHED, STRATEGIC REPUBLICAN MOVES. ITS DESIGNED TO CREATE THE IDEA THAT THEYRE CLASHING WITH THESE COMPANIES WHEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SUPPORT FOR WALL STREET IS NOT REALLY CHANGING ON BIG TICKET MONEY ITEMS LIKE TAXES, LABOR, REGULATION. INSTEAD, THEY ARE FOCUSSED ON FAIRLY VAGUE WAYS TO KIND OF PLAY ACT THIS FIND WITH CORPORATIONS FOR WOKENESS. WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? TO CHINA. HOW DO YOU EVEN ADDRESS IT? ITS BECOME SOMETHING OF A MAGA BUZZ WORD SALAD. >> I THINK CORPORATE AMERICA BY TRYING WOKENESS, THEYRE GOING DOWN A BAD ROAD. >> THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT THE WOKE POLITICS INSIDE THESE COMPANIES, THE WAY THEY THINK OF THEMSELVES IS NOT REALLY AMERICAN COMPANIES. AND ITS SOMEHOW VERY DIFFICULT TO -- FOR THEM TO HAVE A SHARP ANTI-CHINA EDGE OF ANY SORT. >> THE LAST SPEAKER WAS TRUMP SUPPORTER AND TECH BILLIONAIRE, AN EARLY FACEBOOK BACKER. ALSO A REMINDER THAT NOT ALL OF SILICONE VALLEY IS NOT ANTI-TRUMP. MANY AMERICANS HAVE A NEGATIVE VIEW OF BIG TECH. SO REPUBLICANS SHOULD FOCUS ON WHAT THEY CALL EGREGIOUS SUPPRESSION OF CONSERVATIVE SPEECH. NOW, AS A MATTER OF POLICY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THIS JUST BIG PICTURE, THIS COULD BE BIPARTISAN. THERE ARE LIBERALS WHO ARE PLENTY CONCERNED ABOUT SILICON VALLEYS OUT SIZED INFLUENCE AND ITS SPEECH. ITS NOT ABOUT CHANGING THE LAWS OR HELPING THE WORKERS AT THIS OR OTHER COMPANIES. ITS REALLY ALL ABOUT WHETHER REPUBLICANS GET TO TALK THE WAY THEY WANT ON ALL PLATFORMS, AS THE MEMO PUTS IT, WHETHER THERE IS A CONCERN OF SUPPRESSION OF CONSERVATIVE VOICES. >> IF WE DO NOT PUSH BACK AGAINST GOOGLE AND TWITTER, WE WILL LOSE OUR DEMOCRATIC ABILITY TO TALK TO EACH OTHER. >> BIG TECH SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HOW THEYRE SO CLEARLY TRYING TO AID THE JOE BIDEN CAMPAIGN. >> BIG TECH IS TRYING TO SILENCE ANY VOICE OF DISSENT. >> LETS SAY WE THINK THAT FACEBOOK IS POLITICALLY BIASSED IN FAVOR OF THE LEFT, WHICH IT SEEMS PRETTY CLEAR AT THIS POINT THEY ARE. >> THE LAST GUY THERE IS BEN SHAPIRO. HE HAS TWO OF THE TOP PERFORMING LINKS ON FACEBOOK OF HIS POLITICAL VIEWS. HES UP THERE RIGHT BEHIND FOX NEWS AND RIGHT AHEAD OF ANOTHER RIGHT WINGER, DAN BONGINO, SUGGESTING THEY ARE DOING PRETTY WELL ON FACEBOOK, EVEN THOUGH THEY PLAY VICTIM. THIS IS BROADER THAN THAT. THE DEBATES OVER WHY TRUMPS MESSAGES, INCLUDING A CALL FOR INSURRECTION AND WHETHER THAT GOT HIM SUSPENDED FROM MAYBE MORE THAN ONE MEDIA PLATFORM FOR GOOD, TWITTER FOREVER, FACEBOOK FOR SOME TIME, IN FACT, THEY WILL DECIDE TOMORROW WHETHER TO REINSTATE TRUMPS ACCOUNT. BUT RESEARCHERS DONT FIND EVIDENCE THERE IS A TOP DOWN ANTI-REPUBLICAN CRUSADE HERE. THAT BRINGS US TO THE HEART OF THE QUESTION. YOU LOOK AT ALL THIS TAKEN TOGETHER AND YOU HAVE A PARTY THAT DESPERATELY NEEDS TO DEAL WITH A PANDEMIC RECESSION AND A NEW PRESIDENT WHO IS GIVING OUT STIMULUS CHECKS AND BUILDING ROADS AND BRIDGES AND FINDING REPUBLICAN SUPPORT. HOW DO YOU REBRAND AS WORKING CLASS WITH MADE UNFAIRLY PROFESSOR PROFESSORIAL ARGUMENTS WHEN YOUR BIG SOLUTION IS YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TALK MORE ON FACEBOOK? I WANT TO BRING IN A VERY SPECIAL GUEST TO GET INTO THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS. AND THAT IS OUR DEEP DIVE POLITICAL CONVERSATION, WHICH IS ALWAYS A SPECIAL DAY HERE ON "THE BEAT." WE CALL IT CHAI DAY. HE WORKED UNDER THREE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY PART TWO OF A SERIES HES CONTRIBUTED TO AS WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY WERE HEARING SO MUCH ABOUT BIG TECH AND WOKE COMPANIES FROM REPUBLICANS. THANKS FOR COMING BACK, SIR. >> THANK YOU, ARI. HOW ARE YOU? >> IM GREAT. WHAT I LOVE ABOUT SOME OF THE POINTS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN EXPLORING HERE, AND I MENTION THIS IS PART TWO, IS THAT ITS EASY TO GET BOGGED DOWN, WHETHER YOU ARE AT A DINNER PARTY OR SPENDING TOO MUCH TIME ON TWITTER IN RESPONDING TO THE ONE LITTLE THING IN FRONT OF YOU EVEN FACT CHECKING. BUT YOU ARE ARGUING THERE IS SOMETHING MUCH BROADER GOING ON. WHATS GOING ON? >> YEAH. I THINK FIRST OF ALL WE NEED TO SORT OF DIFFERENTIATE GOP OPPOSITION TO, SAY, TRADE WITH CHINA AND DEMOCRATIC OPPOSITION TO TRADE WITH CHINA. WHEN A PERSON LIKE SHARON BROWN WHO IS VERY MUCH PROTECTIONIST OPPOSES TRADE WITH CHINA, HE DOES SO AS PART OF A LARGER PROGRAM TO KEEP WORKERS WAGES UP. YOU KNOW, IT INCLUDES SUPPORT FOR UNIVERSAL DAY CARE, ET CETERA. THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO HELP WORKERS KEEP MORE OF THEIR PAYCHECK AND HAVE MORE SECURITY IN THEIR JOBS. THAT IS NOT WHAT THE GOP DOES WHEN THEY OPPOSE TRADES WITH CHINA. THEY OPPOSE FOREIGN TRADES BECAUSE THEY OPPOSE FOREIGNERS. AND THE SAME THING IS TRUE WITH BIG TECH. THE WHOLE REASON THEY FIGHT AGAINST BIG TECH IS BECAUSE OF THE DEEP PLATFORMING WITH DONALD TRUMP. IT IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY VERY MUCH NEED FULL ACCESS TO THESE PLATFORMS TO SPREAD LIES AND DISINFORMATION. THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE LIBERAL ARGUMENT AGAINST BIG TECH, WHICH IS TO TRY TO STOP THE SPREADING OF LIES AND MISINFORMATION ON THE INTERNET. IT IS CRUCIAL FOR THE CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT THAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THESE PLATFORMS. IT IS A MOVEMENT HEAVILY RELIANT ON SCAPEGOATING AND CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND PUSHING EMOTIONAL HOT BUTTONS AND NOTHING DOES THAT BETTER THAN SOCIAL MEDIA AND INTERNET. LOOK AT THE RAISE OF TRUMP. >> YEAH. YOU JUST LAID THAT OUT PITCH PERFECT. MAKES SENSE. BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THE DE-PLATFORMING, AS THEY PUT IT OR WHAT MANY COMPANIES CALL ENFORCING SAFETY RULES. ALTHOUGH, I HAVE ARGUED ON THIS PROGRAM IT IS TRICKY AND I DONT KNOW ABOUT AN UNREVIEWABLE CORPORATE POWER TO DO THAT. ALTHOUGH, THE INSURRECTION WOULD BE ONE OF THE VIOLENT ENDS WHERE YOU WANT TO AVOID THAT. BUT WE DO HAVE A HEADLINE FOR YOU, CHAI. DONALD TRUMP, AFTER TALKING ABOUT CREATING A SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM, INSTEAD OF DOING THAT OR STARTING AN APP OR A TECH COMPANY, INSTEAD HES LAUNCHED A BLOG. IT IS A SECTION OF HIS WEBSITE THAT OPERATES LIKE A WORD PRESS BLOG. AND SO, CHAI, IM NOT HERE TO MAKE DONALD TRUMP LOOK RIDICULOUS. TODAY HES DONE THAT ALL BY HIMSELF. THEY DIDNT NEED TO PRETEND OR LIE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO CREATE AN APP OR A TECH PLATFORM. IF THEY PUT MILLIONS INTO IT, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN INTERESTING THING. WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU THAT HE IS GOING STRAIGHT BLOG, STRAIGHT LIVE JOURNAL, STRAIGHT BACK TO 95, BABY. >> WELL, I THINK THE REALITY IS HE COULDNT PUT IT TOGETHER. HE DIDNT HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE KIND OF ENGINEERING AND VENTURE CAPITAL, QUITE FRANKLY. PERHAPS HIS FRIEND REFUSED TO HELP HIM OUT. HE COULD HAVE EASILY HELPED HIM OUT IN TERMS OF THAT PUTTING TOGETHER. BUT HE COULDNT PUT IT TOGETHER. REALLY WHAT THIS SHOWS YOU IS HOW MUCH DONALD TRUMP NEEDED THE PLATFORM OF TWITTER, HOW MUCH OF A CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT NEEDS ACCESS TO FACEBOOK TO REALLY PUSH THEIR MESSAGE. WITHOUT TWITTER, AS THE WRITER FOR THE ATLANTIC SAID, DONALD TRUMP STARTED OUT AS A LION AND ENDED UP AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THAT IS A RESULT OF TWITTER. THAT IS SOMETHING HE LEARNED WHEN HE DID THE BIRTHER CONSPIRACY. HE WAS ABLE TO USE TWITTER TO MOVE THAT CONSPIRACY AND GET THE MEDIA TO COVER IT. NOW NOBODY COVERING ANYTHING HE HAS TO SAY. ITS JUST GOING TO BE ANOTHER BLOG ON THE INTERNET, UNCOVERED BY EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR A FEW PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT WING MEDIA. IT IS RALLY VERY SAD AND PATHETIC, BUT THATS KIND OF WHERE TRUMP HAS ENDED UP. HES ENDED UP AS JUST ANOTHER BLOGGER ON THE INTERNET, NOT THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN WHAT WAS ONCE THE MOST POWERFUL PART OF THE UNITED STATES. >> YEAH. YOU LAY IT OUT, ITS STRIKING. I KNOW YOU FLAGGED SOMETHING THAT PAT BUCANNON USED TO TALK ABOUT. LETS TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. >> IT IS A CAMPAIGN FOR THE WORKING MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY WHOSE INTERESTS ARE BEING IGNORED AND WHOSE JOBS ARE BEING SOLD OUT IN THESE TRADE DEALS DONE FOR THE BENEFIT OF CORPORATIONS THAT DONT GIVE A HOOT ABOUT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA OR AMERICAN WORKERS. >> THE MIGRATION OF IDEAS IS ALWAYS FASCINATING TO CHART. AND SOME ENDURE FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. SOME ARE LABELED EXTREME AND THEN BECOME NOT ONLY MAINSTREAM BUT REQUIRED. YOU ARGUE THAT PAT BUCANNON WAS DONALD TRUMPS FOREFATHER FOR BETTER OR WORSE. >> CORRECT. I MEAN, HE REALLY CREATED THIS FORMULATION OF FORTRESS AMERICA. AND HE REALLY DISCOVERED THAT IF YOU COMBINE PROTECTIONISM AGAINST FOREIGN TRADE, ANTI-IMMIGRATION RHETORIC, NATIVISM, IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO A BROAD -- A GROUP OF REPUBLICANS. MAINLY BECAUSE WHILE IT MIGHT SEEM HYPOCRITICAL THAT ON ONE HAND YOU FAVOR TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH AND ON THE OTHER HAND YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF PROTECTIONISM, KEEP IN MIND THAT 7 OUT OF 10 CEOs ARE WHITE MALES. 7% OF FACTORY WORKERS ARE WHITE. YOU ARE CREATING A WHITE MALE PROTECTION RACKET BASICALLY FOR CORPORATIONS. YOU ARE AGREEING NOT TO REGULATE THEM. YOURE GIVING THEIR WHITE MALE CEOs TAX CUTS FOR THE PREDOMINANTLY WHITE MALE FACTORY WORKERS. YOU ARE ALSO OFFERING TO GIVE THEM MENTAL COMFORT AGAINST THE SIGHT OF BROWN PEOPLE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU ARE ALSO PROVIDING PROTECTION AGAINST THE POLITICAL CLAIMS OF WOMEN AND MINORITIES. ALL OF THIS GOES TO A WHITE IDENTITY ELEMENT THAT PAT BUCANNON WAS AT THE FOREFRONT OF CREATING. THE THING THAT HE DID NOT WAS SOCIAL MEDIA. IF BUCANNON HAD ACCESS TO THE TOOLS OF SOCIAL MEDIA THE WAY