Transylvania's Gábor – between tradition and modernity | DW Documentary

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Ce de moderatori în clip!

👍︎︎ 15 👤︎︎ u/El_Cicone 📅︎︎ Apr 10 2021 🗫︎ replies

Mi se rupe inima pentru fetița aia. 2 ani să nu ai voie să ieși din casă... Părea și ea 5 minute fericită la "nunta" ei, dar i-a dispărut repede și entuziasmul ăla când i-au zis că nu mai are voie să își vadă părinții. Binenteles, partea cu fatatul de plozi nu e explicit spusă la nuntă, dar se subînțelege și lasă un gust amar.

Chestia care mie mi-a sărit prima în ochi e cât de urâte sunt ele, și nu mă refer la trăsături - toate femeile din video la 30 de ani deja arată ca româncele la 50. La ce viață fututa duc femeile alea, forțate să nască de pe la 14 ani, nici nu mă mira. Ținute ca niște sclave de "tradițiile" lor de căcat. Închise în casă cu forța, ca să facă șunci și alte probleme de sănătate de la lipsa de mișcare.

Da, da, știu că Reddit are ceva anti țigani, nu zic acum că îi ador. Dar cumva, nu pot să îi urăsc pe acei doi copii, care e clar că nu sunt deloc fericiți și sunt forțați de interese să se imperecheze cu rudele lor. Sunt doar niște copii. Îmi e doar foarte, foarte milă de ei. Mai ales de fetiță. Să fii forțată să naști la 14 ani e brutal.

👍︎︎ 6 👤︎︎ u/Abject-Raccoon2547 📅︎︎ Apr 10 2021 🗫︎ replies

ce e cu propaganda pro tiganism din ultima vreme?

👍︎︎ 26 👤︎︎ u/luci_nebunu 📅︎︎ Apr 10 2021 🗫︎ replies

Șase cai frumoși!

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/Sector3_Bucuresti 📅︎︎ Apr 10 2021 🗫︎ replies
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Transylvania. A legendary region in central Europe, bordered by the wilderness of the Carpathian Mountains. Once part of Hungary, today it belongs to Romania. Its 20 million inhabitants are EU citizens, including more than half a million people from the Roma minority. 14,000 Roma belong to the "Gábor" ethnic group. Their community is centered around the village of Karácsonyfalva. It’s been home to a population of more than a thousand Gabor for five centuries. This is our cradle, it’s where our ancestors are buried. The Gabor — with the hat and moustache. Our women wear long skirts. We are the Gabor. We had the unique opportunity to look inside the insular world of the Gabor, a people who — largely shielded from the outside world — have preserved their customs and rituals for 500 years. According to legend, a Hungarian prince named Gabor granted them the right to stay in the 17th century. Since then, every descendent has been called 'Gabor' with either their first or last name. One of the most influential families lives just a few meters from the church. Come in. This is my beautiful, dear wife. We’ve been together for 42 years, I love her. Whether she loves me too - I don't know. This is the wife of my little grandson. And this here is my great-granddaughter. Stop talking about "love" and all that! Say we've been together for 42 years, we're Adventists, and you have a beautiful family and many grandchildren. Yes I have a beautiful wife - for 42 years. We have 31 grandchildren! Their grandchildren live nearby. Gabor families are big. By the age of 35, most women are grandmothers, and by 50, great-grandmothers. My father bought this land. Then he died. I was inconsolable and fell into a depression. Then I built this house - with no plans, I just went ahead and built it. Gabor Janko is 60 years old. He deals mainly in antiques, following in the footsteps of his father, who shaped life in the village like no other. This is my father’s vest. You see? It’s very old. There are even gems in the buttons. They’re gold-plated. Many Gabor own something like this. You see? These are my wife’s skirts. She keeps buying more. She can never have enough. My son bought me these. They’re gold-framed, from Porsche. They’re very valuable. I’ll either wear them when I go out or I won’t. Sunglasses are not suited to our tradition. So it would be seen as something shameful. The village school is located nearby. Gabor boys attend until they are 14 years old. Girls are taken out of school no later than the age of 10, so as to be shielded from the "dangers" of the outside world. The fear is that they could be snatched as brides by a family with a lower social standing. Or associate with non-Gabor children — or worse — fall in love with an outsider! The outside world poses the greatest danger to the insular community of the Gabor. Mundra left school after fifth grade. She’s now 14 and is being married off. Tomorrow is her wedding day. We’ve been engaged for two years. Before that we had never talked much, but we knew each other because we are related. We both agreed to the engagement right away. The groom's grandparents are setting off for one last sales tour before the wedding. They make their living as traders. Kuca is one of very few Gabor women who have a job. She is always on the lookout for new fabrics suitable for traditional dresses. Her husband sells the typical Gabor hats. Normally, Gabor men travel alone, working as salesmen across Europe. They are business savvy and quick to discern a market. Kuca and Gabor peddle exclusive wares that can’t be found in shops or markets. They go door-to-door, visiting their customers. We Gabor call it the ‘school of life’. There are people who don't go to school, but they are still smart. We’ve learned how to make money, how to live in the world. The Gabor know how to trade. Every Gabor has it in their blood. Gold is a prized commodity among the Gabor. Bölöni — who was of course also christened Gabor — is a gold merchant. At 45, he’s already the grandfather of many grandchildren. He and his Hungarian employee specialize in jewelry worn by the Gabor. I’ll tell the customer that it’s almost ready. I belong to the younger generation. In communist times, our families made their living from their crafts. They made boilers or distilleries. Then democracy came to Romania and we could travel abroad. We knew what types of goods would sell back home. We saw that gold was cheaper abroad. And not just gold. We brought it all back to sell for profit. With their business acumen, the Gabor did well after the collapse of communism. They bought real estate and became landlords. And they lent out money and collected interest. Others were left behind? and are poor. The nail even has a head. Sure, that's the head. This is the type of things I make. They're called boilers. Janko still practices one of the Gabor’s traditional trades. He’s a tinsmith. Nowadays, when everything is made of plastic, his skills are rarely required. Nevertheless, he can be found in his workshop every day. Bölöni, the gold trader, is quizzing him about the old days. And the shears and hammers that we see here, you had them in a sack. In a bag. You carried it around all day. All day. And what did you call out? “Patching! Repairs” Repairs All types of repairs. And then people invited you in and showed you what needed repairing. I even repaired things for 50 cents. And if they didn’t have money, what then? They paid in food. Cornmeal, some bacon, eggs. You had what you needed to live. Yes! You were even happier to get food than money. We were satisfied. A family of five receives 200 euros in welfare payments per month. That covers gas, electricity, bread and potatoes. An unskilled worker makes twice that sum. But a Gabor cannot work as a hired hand. Employment is viewed as 'servitude' and a breach of Gabor tradition. Such work is left to Hungarians or Romanians. The Gabor — even the poorest among them — are viewed as the aristocratic caste of the Roma. It’s wedding day at the Sarkany family home. Marriage is the biggest and most important celebration for the Gabor — securing the future of their community. The Gabor never marrying outside their ethnic group. You are only a Gabor if your parents and spouse are Gabor too. Both of the families here are wealthy and influential. Bobby, the groom, is 16. He lives here with his father, mother, and grandparents. From today, he’ll be joined by his bride Mundra. Like all Gabor girls, Mundra wasn’t allowed to leave her house after turning 12. She’s been waiting for this day for two long years. The grandfathers seal their deal clinched after months of tough negotiations. Two families are uniting, consolidating rank and wealth. Bobby and Mundra play only a minor role in this transaction. Wealth and rank are not synonymous. Rank is inherited. Every family wants to marry into a better one. And they’re willing to pay for it. For the wealthy, that can cost up to a hundred thousand euros. The wedding gifts are laid out in the young couple's bedroom. The bride must be given 10 sets of dresses. Each costs around 400 euros — the equivalent of a roofer’s monthly income. The men are in charge of serving at wedding banquets. Lamb, chicken, salad and fresh bread. First the men, then the women. The marriage ceremony must be over by noon. A Gabor wedding is a purely family affair, without the involvement of state or church. The bride’s ceremony is presided over by her grandmother, mother and mother-in-law. Gabor girls never cut their hair. Like Mundra they all sport braids. But that changes when they wed. Now Mundra will wear her hair tied up in a bun, as married Gabor women have done for five hundred years. By tying her headscarf, Bobby confirms that Mundra is now his wife. No other man will ever see her hair again. Bobby is set to learn the merchant trade from his father and grandfather, and eventually provide for Mundra. He will have children, be the head of the family, and as the youngest son care for his parents and grandparents. Guests at the wedding party give money to the family as a symbol of respect. The lion’s share is distributed among the oldest and most distinguished members of the family. Some even get euros. Among the women, only older family members get a hand-out. And in the end, all that’s left is national currency. If Mundra gets homesick or the match turns out to be unhappy, she can return to her parents. The marriage can also be dissolved if the couple doesn’t produce male offspring. Otherwise, Gabor newlyweds are bound together for life. By two in the afternoon, the last guests have departed. The village didn’t take much notice of the wedding. Most people have other concerns. As the sole breadwinner of the family, men shoulder a heavy burden. Gabor women stay at home with the children. Even if their family is poor. Recently, increasing numbers of local tinsmiths have found work as roofers in western Europe. An income that helps their families make ends meet, but with nothing left for savings. Industrial boilers for jam production and liquor distillation. Coppersmithing is another one of the Gabor’s ancestral occupations, passed down from generation to generation. How long does it take to make one like this? Around ten days. It took me ten days. This one’s 550 liters. Gabor Rusu has 68 grandchildren and great-grandchildren. His sons were also trained as coppersmiths, but they make their living from trade. Three of them reside here in the house with their families. My father was the village chief. My grandfather too. My Gabor brothers say I'm one too, but I'm not? I won’t take on that role! Among the Gabor, problems within the community are resolved by the community. In the event of a dispute, police consult the village chiefs, the Bulibashas. The gold merchant explains how the Gabor have exercised jurisdiction for centuries. We are all just human, and if someone is suspected of wrongdoing, but is innocent — then he swears on the Bible that he is innocent. And the community believes him. Because the Gabor are afraid they’ll be cursed if they lie. Nowadays, the respective families will gather at home and swear the oath there. It happened to me once too. I professed my innocence in front of several rank elders in a live chat on Facebook. If a gate is open, you are allowed to enter. It’s an unwritten law here. It’s still strange to wear a headscarf. Mundra’s first day as a wife. I got this from my mother-in-law for the wedding. This is from Kuca, that one too. This one I got from my mother and this one from my father. My mother got this one from her mother for her wedding. She gave it to me right before the wedding. It’s back to daily life. Grandparents Gabor and Kuca are on their way to their dressmaker. She lives on the outskirts of the village and is Hungarian. Affluent Gabor like to employ Hungarians — who they call clean and reliable. In turn, Hungarians like Margit enjoy doing business with the Gabor — they pay good money. She’s been sewing for us for 40 years. Do you want me to measure it? Then we'll know how to cut it. Each Gabor skirt is custom made. The fabric comes from India. It’s very thin and must be sewn in tight pleats. So that the men can't look up our skirts, right Margit? My mother-in-law is like a mother to me. Also my father-in-law — they’re like parents! We have a very good relationship. It’s often the case that you don't get along with your mother-in-law. But with us it is completely different, and I hope that it will be the same with my daughter-in-law as it is with me and my mother-in-law. I comb her hair every morning. I make the bun and tie it up. I take care of her. I wash her clothes ? iron them. Since she is still very young, we take care of her and also of the boy. They don't have to worry about anything. Such little girls don't have to cook or clean yet. When I was as young as Mundra, as early as 12, 13, I had to slaughter and gut poultry. There, she's ready. Now I'll tie her headscarf. My dear little daughter-in-law. Before the wedding she slept next to me. For three nights. Now she sleeps next to her husband. They are both still little. They sleep like siblings. They cuddle, kiss. How should I say it, they are just so “next to each other.” That's the way it is with us. I got these from my mother and these are gifts from the guests. All this is for Bobby. Well for both of us. And also these. The bags are from my mother. Which shoes do you like best? These. But they’re still too big. I got a lot, I like it all, everything was expensive. 500 years ago the Gabor lived in tents. Then in mudbrick and later in stone houses at the edge of the village. Previously, only Hungarians lived in the coveted homes along the main street. But after the collapse of communism, wealthy Gabors made Hungarian homeowners offers they couldn’t refuse, and most moved away. Today Gabors make up 75 percent of Karácsonyfalva’s population. The antique dealer Janko and his family also live here. If my father said this is blue, then it was blue. If he said white, then it was white. We are five siblings, and he taught us everything. My father once bought two big pigs. The butcher was cutting them up and making sausage when two young men appeared. "Come to church with us, Uncle Mitri," they said to my father. "I know you speak in the name of the Lord Jesus," my father replied and he followed them. By the time he returned, the blood and liver sausages were ready. "Eat some!" my mother said. "Never again will I put pork in my mouth!" my father replied. "That's what I swore to the Lord today!" My mother almost cried. In fact, she did cry. That was forty years ago. Janko's father never drank alcohol or smoked again. Like increasing numbers of Gabor Roma at the time, he had joined the Seventh Day Adventist Church. Grandparents Gabor and Kuca are also Adventists. Religion didn’t always play such a big role in Gabor society. Some were Greek Orthodox, others Protestant. In church they sat at the back, separated from Hungarians and Romanians. As Adventists though, they feel accepted. Here, all that counts is the believer’s faith in God. Many Gabor only learn to read so they can study the Bible. Faith has changed their lives. They are devout and disciplined — characteristics that have earned them recognition in the outside world. The sermon is held at times in Hungarian or Romanian. Most of the Gabor are fluent in both. And, of course, they also speak Romani. Four times a year they celebrate the Lord's Supper. The highpoint of the mass comes when the parishioners wash each other's feet, as a sign of humility. After the service, family and friends dine together. The preacher often joins in. Adventists cook on Friday. On Saturday, they’re only allowed to warm up and serve the food. When they are young, women don't have much say. But with time, they gain prestige and influence. Still, the men are always served first. And when there are guests, the women sit separately. We always stay in the background. That is our tradition. Like in India... The men are in front and the women behind. It’s the same in bed. Excuse me. The woman is on the inside, the man on the outside. If someone falls out, it should be the man, not the woman. In her new home, Mundra has already learned how to iron. When she goes out tonight with Bobby to a MacDonald's, she'll wear her favorite Titanic-print skirt. Kuca is known to be an excellent cook. She’d never dream of using canned food. Kuca will teach Mundra everything she needs to know — in the same way she learned how to fulfill her role from her own mother-in-law. But who knows how long traditions will continue to be passed down from generation to generation? These are my hats and my grandson Janko's. If he needs a white one, he takes that one. If he needs a brown one, he takes that one. He's already married, we brought him a little wife. He is a little gentleman in the house. God gave him enough sense to learn what’s good. He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, he doesn't know what stealing is, what whoring is. Will you always wear the Gabor hat too? Yes! And your children? Yes. I’m not so sure. I suppose sooner or later the Gabor hat will become obsolete. I know I’ll wear it for my entire life. These young people are open to the world. He still follows me. But what will happen in his own family, only the good Lord knows. And what about the family of the village elder? These children will not be Gabors. They will be called Gabor, but they will no longer practice our professions. It's not about professions, it's about customs. The traditions of the Gabor won’t survive. He wants to go to school and continue studying so he can become a policeman. In Gabor Rostás' home, it’s the grandparents who feed the family. Whenever they can, they work as day laborers. Their young grandchildren go to kindergarten, and 12-year-old Zsuzsko attends school. She is in 5th grade, where she learns Hungarian, Romanian and English. Her family doesn’t plan to marry her off soon. How many girls stay until the eighth grade? I’m the only one in my school. She is the only one. There are boys, but not girls. Without school you are nothing. It's as if you had no baptism record, no birth certificate. As if you don’t exist at all. But when you learn, everything is different. Then you have something in your brain, you can achieve something. And at 18 the child can find a job and earn some money. If all goes well, Zsuzskó will be the first Gabor girl in the village to finish school with a diploma, and maybe even pursue a career. And Mundra? Her future seems secure for now. But business is increasingly conducted online. Bobby won't be able to learn the tricks of internet trading from his father. He will have to face the challenges of the digital age on his own. But can he succeed without the necessary education? And what will happen if Gabor girls assert their career aspirations? How long will the archaic traditions of the Gabor be able to survive? in the globalized world?
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Channel: DW Documentary
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Keywords: Documentary, Documentaries, documentaries, DW documentary, full documentary, DW, documentary 2021, Roma, Romania, child marriage, Adventists, tradition
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Length: 42min 26sec (2546 seconds)
Published: Fri Apr 09 2021
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