Listen to me when I say that love isn't something we invented. It's... observable, powerful, it has to mean something. Christopher Nolan's science fiction epic, Interstellar, has sparked many discussions since its release for a story that deals with complex science this doesn't come as a surprise but I found that aside from the topics that are addressed most often such as explaining the plot, discussing scientific accuracy, debating the role of technology and artificial intelligence and drawing parallels with Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness and the dust bowl era. There hasn't been that much real discussion on one of the more controversial moments from the film. The scene in which Brand suggests that love might be more real and powerful than we previously thought Maybe it means something more something, we can't yet understand maybe it's some evidence some artifact of a higher dimension that we can't consciously perceive. Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends dimensions of time and space Maybe this topic often gets overlooked because of the slightly awkward writing or could it perhaps be that we are unwilling to explore an attempt at making a sincere statement about an intimate subject that is not rooted in post-modern deconstruction or science devoid of the subjective human experience or as Aaron Stewart-Ahn and puts it in his fantastic article on Interstellar, Have we become more terrified of intimacy than interstellar travel? My main goal for this video is therefore to explore how Nolan's views the connection between time and love in Interstellar. There's going to be some science but because that topic has already been covered so much I'm just going to stick to the basics that are needed to understand the world of interstellar It is well known that Nolan collaborated with theoretical physicist Kip Thorne to base the film on actual science. They deliberated on things like wormholes and black holes but for the purpose of this video I'm going to focus on time what is time in Interstellar? To answer this question Nolan again turned to science which unfortunately doesn't provide a clear answer. Time is the thing that everyone knows intimately until you ask them to tell you about it. There is basically no aspect, of time which I feel we fully understand. Thanks to Einstein and his Theory of General Relativity, we do know that time and space are connected. Establishing our experienced universe in four dimensions, also referred to as space-time. One important discovery of this is that our experience of the past, the present, and the future is actually just an illusion when, in fact time exists all at once. But unlike the spatial dimensions within which we can move around freely, we seem to be imprisoned by time. Always experiencing only one slide of space-time which, we generally call the now We are however always moving forward in time from what we see as the past towards what we see as the future. We call this linearity the arrow of time. In short, the arrow of time most likely exists because of entropy. The movement from order to disorder that was set in motion by the Big Bang. Another important discovery, one that is especially relevant to Interstellar is that time is not experienced the same by everyone and is strongly influenced by gravity which makes time go slower for those who are closer to a strong gravitational force. Scientists confirmed this by using highly accurate atomic clocks. They found that if they placed one of the clocks higher, further away from earth's gravity, let's say from the floor to a table, time moved a little bit faster. The difference here, of course, is infinitely small but when we look at a black hole for example, which has immense gravity, the difference becomes far more significant This is in a nutshell the known science behind the concept of time and pretty much establishes the rules of time for Interstellar. "Time is relative, okay it can stretch and it can squeeze but it can't run backwards just can't. The only thing that can move across dimensions like time is gravity." It is interesting to look at how Nolan incorporates this knowledge in Interstellar. For aside from the obvious use of time and time dilation in the story Nolan is known for using his films to make meta statements on filmmaking and the act of watching a film. In inception, for example, the dream world is created in pretty much the same way that films are made. There is a director, a producer a production designer, an actor, and the studio who all work together to deliver an experience to the audience that impacts their lives in some way or another. I think that in Interstellar Nolan wanted to make a similar statement. A statement about the experience and manipulation of time, both in film and in real life. For starters the first act of Interstellar is surprisingly linear compared to some of Nolan's other films, like in most films time is compressed but still experienced linearly by the viewer. The story unfolds to us in the same way that it does for the characters. Nolan even employs the traditional cut to black to show the passage of time. An editing technique he almost never uses. It's not until we enter the wormhole and are introduced to Einstein's Theory of Relativity that time becomes distorted not just for the characters in the film but also for the audience as from this moment the film breaks up our linear experience of the story by cross-cutting scenes and jumping back and forth in time while however still being limited to the established rules of time. For even a medium like film that can manipulate the experience of time is still bound by its arrow. Always showing us a story one frame at a time. Besides the scientific foundation of Interstellar, Nolan also tends to ground his films within a reality that is built from familiar elements. Taking everyday experiences and enlarging them building them into the bigger story. Again going back to Inception when establishing the rules of the dream world and the concept of extraction, Nolan used universally experienced elements to make a science fiction concept feel relatable to the audience. Such as the kick and the idea that dreams feel real while, we're in them "It's only when we wake up that we realize something was actually strange." In Interstellar he does this by drawing on our universal experience of being imprisoned by time, which is beautifully symbolized by the clock shaped Endurance that while moving in infinite space binds the crew within its limits and Hans Zimmer's score which during high tension scenes becomes a ticking clock at exactly 60 beats per minute. We also see this in what is perhaps the most devastating scene in the film, the moment when Cooper and Brand come back from Miller's planet to find out that 23 years have passed in the mere hours they were gone. In what feels like the blink of an eye, Cooper's children have aged decades. What was once their future is now a series of memories that he was not a part of and we too as the audience are deprived of being part of their story like we were in the first act of the film. Why do we find this moment so profoundly moving? I'd argue that this is because we do in fact experience this dilation of time and subsequent feeling of loss in our own lives. Take for example the stories of people who are forced to stay in one place for a long period of time. Or stories of those who went on some kind of journey. Coming home for them is rarely so much about the spatial element as it is about the passing of time. It is the realization that life has moved on in your absence, it is knowing that no matter how you move within the spatial dimensions, you cannot escape time. All of us experience this to some extent when we reconnect with old friends or family members, when we revisit places where we might have lived years ago or when we get back from a long trip. We find out that things have changed or perhaps even that, we have changed. That we are no longer in touch with that which once felt familiar. Again not because of changes in space but because of this passing of time that forever dooms us to experience fundamental loss. Whether this loss is as significant and traumatizing as missing out on the lives of your loved ones or as insignificant as missing out on a moment of a movie after going to the bathroom. All of us inescapably suffer under arrow of time. In Interstellar, this harsh reality of time is taken to the extreme by enlarging it through the science of gravitational time dilation. Yet it still shows us something essential about the way in which we experience time in our own lives. lives? So what resistance can we offer against such a relentless force of nature? The short answer is that we cannot escape time but we can transcend it and we are doing so increasingly. This is because human beings have the arguably unique ability to defy time by documenting language and images. For a long time the most important way to do this was through books. Books allow us to reach back in time and access moments from the past. Not just to experience stories of old but also to develop a sense of cultural history and pass on ideas and technologies. Just imagine what today's society would have looked like were it not for this vast accumulation of the past. Today we revisit the past through photographs, audio recordings, music, and film. This increased ability to transcend time is referred to as atemporality. One consequence of atemporality is that our ever-growing access to the past is unbinding us from time. A development that Interstellar takes to the extreme with the Bulk beings. The Bulk beings had complete access to time but it was exactly this unboundedness that became their disadvantage. For them, time is happening all at once from beginning to end infinitely. Pinpointing a specific moment must for them be like what pinpointing one specific drop in an endless ocean is for us. That is unless we have some way to create a connection which is exactly what the tesseract was for. Now to fully understand what happened inside the tesseract, we first have to understand a different film that clearly inspired Interstellar, and that is the 1962 french film La Jetée. La Jetée is a 30-minute science fiction story that is told entirely through photographs linked together by a narrator as if the story was already at hand in its fullness from the very beginning. After a third world war destroyed Paris and forced its people to live on the ground to escape radiation, a group of scientists explore time travel to learn from the past to help their situation in the present. They experimented on prisoners but found that most of them went insane when unbound from time. Just like the Bulk beings in Interstellar, they simply couldn't find a moment to connect to. They were eventually able to send one man back to before the war because of a strong connection he had to a specific memory of a woman's face. The narrator explains "[French] Nothing distinguishes memories from ordinary moments." "Only later do they become memorable" "by the scars they leave." "That face was to be the only image of peacetime to survive the war." "He'd often wondered if he'd really seen it, or just invented that tender moment to counter the moments of madness to follow." When we compare this to Interstellar it becomes clear that the tesseract is not about Cooper it's about Murph. Time is transcended by her. She is the one haunted by her childhood. By a memory of her dad leaving his young daughter in her bedroom with a ghost she didn't understand. In the beginning of the film, Cooper even tells her "Your mom used to say something to me I never quite understood." "She said now..." "we just hear... the memories our kids." Notice, also our Murph is still wearing Cooper's jacket decades after he's gone. It was her, not Cooper's connection to the past that gave the Bulk beings a specific anchor point for communication. A connection ultimately determined by love. Cooper realized that what he found in the tesseract was not his love for Murph it was her love for him that created the bridge. Understanding that is what gave him the confidence to code the data into the watch. The watch that he knew she would come back for because he gave it to her. Just as in La Jetée, Interstellar uses love as a supposedly quantifiable force to navigate the dimension of time. Now all this is not to say that love is something supernatural or has its own dimension or that it is the answer to all of our issues. It is simply as Aaron Stewart-Ahn puts it that "Our lives are a strange journey through time." A construct that is as intimate as it is alien. Forever binding us yet always eluding us. In time we find the essence of our mortality. The confrontation with our own annihilation. Always looming in the distance. interstellar shows how love is inexplicably tangled up in this part of life we do not really understand. Not just in a sentimental way but more so in the deep sense of grief, of mournfulness that inevitably follows as we pass through time. Frame by frame moment by moment always losing it. Against this sorrow, Interstellar gives us not science, but poetry. "Do not go, gentle into that good night. Old "age should burn and rave a closer day." "Rage, rage." "Against the dying of the light." This poem by Dylan Thomas is often interpreted as a poem about the struggle against death. But in the light of Interstellar I would argue that it is about the struggle against time. Against our cosmos being driven towards nothingness by entropy. The true antagonist of the film. As Professor Brand explains "I'm not afraid of death." "I'm an old physicist." "I'm afraid of time." It seems that the only thing we can do is commit the memory all that which will be lost. Be it the sounds of Earth in deep space or the testimonies about our lives. And in doing so keep pushing the boundaries of this strange dimension, this temporal frontier waiting to be explored.
I just interpreted it as; love is a driving force which has gotten those two characters up off their asses to do something crazy dangerous...
All their motivations weren't down to scientific endeavor - it was because of love (seeing an ex-bf being a minor one, saving the ones you love on Earth, etc being the major bit). All she was saying, to me was, "look we've been driven unconsciously by this one emotion long enough, perhaps we should observe it more"
edit: to clear up rushed phrasing
"More afraid of love than interstellar travel"
Pretty much sums up the Reddit anti-Brand circle jerk.
The section about the passing of time beginning at 8:12 ish is particularly well presented I thought.
Before watching this (I'm going to): the problem I had with this scene that I had and still have no idea what its relevance was at that point in the story and in the conversation.
They talk about which planet to go to and one of them happens to have the man she loves on it. She then says:
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I couldn't figure out how this makes sense. Granted, if she's right and we fundamentally don't understand something about love, as in we aren't capable of understanding it yet, then there's the possibility it makes sense and we just can't see it. However, this could be said about literally anything. You can turn it around: let's say Brand has a blinding hate for Dr. Mann - Maybe that means something, too?
I mean how does her speech say anything but "I love him and I want to see him again...um....so maybe it means something more"? It's nonsense. She tries to make love relevant to a decision based on science and logic, which it can't be, not the way we think, which is all we have. Maybe love holds us back because it makes us do stupid things and we shouldn't follow your instincts? As I said above, if you follow her line of thinking, you can come up with anything, especially when it's a out something you want so bad.
Let's see if my opinion is different after watching the video.
edit: It doesn't address the Brand's love-speech, but the video makes an interesting point about time and love in Interstellar.
La jeteee is back!
Fantastic
Not many movies I've seen have made me so much as tear up, but interstellar was such a powerful movie that no dam could have held back the river of tears I was crying by the end. Such amazing performances by all actors in that movie.
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In Interstellar, Cooper is engaged in a slow race against time. On one hand, the mission has to be completed quickly, to save humanity back on Earth. On the other hand, he personally wants to go back quickly, to reunite with his children.
As Brand says, "love" (of his children) is his motivation.
Notice how te speech of Mann, where he says that empathy rarely extends beyond our own family, is the same concept as what Brandt was saying, but from a different angle.