Toyota's New 455HP Hydrogen V8: Everything You Need to Know

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Here we are in 2022 and you and I probably  both know that gas powered cars and internal   combustion engines are kind of on their way out,  and they're being replaced by electric vehicles.   We're seeing this trend across markets, from  sedans, pickup trucks, motorcycles, planes,   and even into the commercial market with semi  trucks. Really, it's only a matter of time   until the internal combustion engine just dies,  or at least that's what I thought until Yamaha   and Toyota dropped some news the other day, which  is their co-development of a 5.0L V8 engine. But,   what made this particular 5.0L V8 engine special,  was the fact that it was powered by hydrogen,   rather than gasoline or diesel. Which  means it has zero emissions output at all.   And better yet, it sounds absolutely  amazing and makes a ton of power. So,   sit down, relax, and get comfy, because  today I'm going to tell you everything   you need to know about this new 5.0L  hydrogen-powered V8 from Toyota and Yamaha. So, to start this off, I want to make it  perfectly clear that Toyota really did not   do this on their own and they had to rely heavily  on Yamaha for this. Now, you might be wondering   "Yamaha, why them of all companies?" Yamaha,  it's the company that sells everything. Like,   "hey I want to buy a piano. Oh I can help you with  that. Oh, I also want to buy a motorcycle do you   know where I can buy one? You're not going to  believe this, but I can help you with that too."   It sounds kind of crazy, but it actually makes  sense because Toyota and Yamaha actually have a   long-standing relationship. They've worked  together numerous times over the last few   decades. Some of you might remember the LFA, which  is Lexus' supercar that really never took off   and cost Toyota so much money to develop that each  one was sold at a net loss rather than a profit.   Yamaha helped Toyota with the development of the  V10 under the hood of the LFA. But, if you go back   even further, you'll see that Yamaha and Toyota  work together on the 1JZ. Now, there's people   all over the internet that claim that the 2JZ was  also co-developed between Yamaha and Toyota, but   there's no actual proof of this claim anywhere,  although the 2JZ head is very similar to the 1JZ   head that Yamaha was involved with. Anyways, you  can actually go back even further than that all   the way to the 1960s, when Toyota and Yamaha  worked together on the 2000GT. This isn't a   video about their long-standing relationship, so  I won't go into more detail. But, simply put, they   have worked together a bunch and it made sense in  this context. Although this new 5.0L engine made a   ton of news and it's very interesting and cool,  it's not actually a new concept for Toyota, at   all. In fact, they've been playing with hydrogen  engines for quite a while now. In fact, you can   rewind the clock a little bit to 2021, when Toyota  announced it was building a hydrogen engine to be   showcased in the GR Yaris. Of course, the GR Yaris  was kind of the perfect application to show that   hydrogen engines aren't just for weenies that love  great fuel economy and saving the environment, but   also for people who love going fast and love the  sound of internal combustion engines. The engine   in the GR Yaris showcase car was basically just  a G16E-GTS, which we've made a video on recently,   I'd highly recommend you go check that out.  They pretty much just took that engine and   modified the injection system for hydrogen fuel,  rather than gasoline. In fact, the experimental   hydrogen-powered Coralla Sport had already been  competing in the Super Taiku race series in Japan   since earlier in 2021 under the rookie racing arm  of Toyota Gazoo Racing. So, Toyota was getting   pretty experienced with hydrogen engines from  using them in a few race cars, so it was time to   scale it up to a larger engine, which is where the  new hydrogen-powered 5.0L V8 comes into play. And,   much like the smaller hydrogen-powered  3-cylinder G16E-GTS that we just talked about,   this 5.0L V8 is based almost entirely on an  existing Toyota engine, which is the 2UR-FSE. Now,   a lot of the news reports were saying that this  hydrogen-powered engine was the RC-F engine, but   I think it's actually worth noting that the  2UR-GSE is actually used on a lot more than   just the RC-F. You'll find it in the IS-F, the  GS-F, the LC500, the IS500. Like, it's more than   just the RC-F engine, it is Toyota's performance  5.0L V8 that's in multiple applications. The 2US   is an all-aluminum, dual overhead cam V8, with 4  valves per cylinder. Funny enough, the heads are   actually designed by Yamaha and have some pretty  cool features including titanium intake valves,   high lift cams, a dual length intake manifold  system, dual VVTi-E, and D4s gas injection,   which is simply port and direct injection combined  together. The base engine in the RC-F outputs 467   horsepower and 389 pound-feet of torque, which is  pretty impressive for a naturally aspirated V8.   For reference, Ford's 5.0L Coyote V8 engine in the  Mustang produces 450 horsepower and 410 pound-feet   of torque, in its current configuration in 2022.  Of course, with this new hydrogen-powered version   of this engine, they had to make some changes.  Most notably, they made changes to the injectors,   heads, and intake manifold. The strangest change  to me is that they reversed the flow of the heads.   In all these photos shown by Toyota, this engine  has a hot V design, meaning the exhaust manifold   is in the V of the engine, rather than the  intake manifold being there. Which means   this engine will have two intake manifolds: one  per side. Now, the showcase piece and the thing   that everybody is talking about is the Yamaha  designed exhaust manifold, which is an eight to   one exhaust manifold, and it's supposed to produce  an incredible exhaust note. But, unfortunately,   I can't show you that, because they have actually  yet to show this engine in video or sound,   so we'll just have to wait and see how good  it actually sounds. In terms of performance,   they're claiming 455 horsepower at 6800RPM and  398 pound-feet of torque at 3600RPM. So, it's a   little bit down compared to the 2UR-FSE that it's  based on, but it's still a crazy amount of power   naturally aspirated, especially considering it's  outputting zero emissions. You might be wondering   why is Toyota even bothering with this? Like, why  bother investing in it? Why bother pushing this?   Why bother marketing this, when electric already  has a substantial lead? Like, is hydrogen actually   feasible? And the answer is no, but we'll get that  in a little bit, but Toyota has publicly stated   that they're committed to the internal combustion  engine and it's something that they want to pursue   long term, rather than electrifying their  entire lineup like other manufacturers. And,   it's actually not just Toyota and Yamaha.  It's also Mazda, Kawasaki, and Subaru,   who have all pledged to continue investing in  combustion engines and expanding fuel options   beyond gasoline or diesel. Yamaha's president  is pretty vocal about his belief in hydrogen and   the combustion engine itself long term. He said:  "hydrogen engines house the potential to be   carbon neutral while keeping our passion for the  internal combustion engine alive at the same time.   Teaming up with companies with different corporate  cultures and areas of expertise, as well as   growing the number of partners we have, is how we  want to lead the way into the future." "Hydrogen   engines have an innately friendly feel that makes  them easy to use without resorting to electronic   driving aids. Everyone who came to test drive the  prototype car would start off somewhat skeptical,   but emerged from the car with a big smile on their  face at the end." This is all part of becoming net   neutral on carbon, or at least they say, by 2050.  But, the thing is, will this ever come to market?   Maybe. Will it ever sell? No. If you look at  previous attempts at hydrogen-powered cars,   they did not end well. There is literally  no demand for these cars at all. In fact,   if you really want to disrupt the automobile  industry, like if you look at Tesla,   for example. If you want to change up what people  are buying, you have to offer them a product that   is superior in every single way to what you're  currently offering. Hydrogen engines are not   objectively better in almost every way compared to  gas engines. They make a similar amount of power,   they sound the same, and they have the same  maintenance schedule. Like, they're very very   similar. You're just changing the fuel type,  so there's no real reason to go buy hydrogen,   especially considering the lack of infrastructure.  So, if you wanted to get fuel, unless you're in   like southern California or some parts of Europe,  there's basically nowhere to get hydrogen fuel.   So, there's very few people who can actually fuel  up these cars. So, there's zero demand whatsoever.   Electric, on the other hand≤ is almost silent,  makes a ton of power, it's easy to drive,   eliminates all maintenance costs, and more. As  much as you and I both love tinkering on cars,   fixing them, making them faster, breaking them,  and then repeating the process, at the end of the   day, electric cars are simply better. Electric  cars might not be objectively better in every   single way right now in 2022, but they will be  in the near future. Really, the only thing that's   stopping electric cars from being vastly better  in every way is range and how long it takes to   recharge them, but that's quickly changing and  five or ten years from now I have a hard time   imagining that electric cars won't take over  as the most popular cars being built and sold.   So, although it's really awesome to see Toyota and  Yamaha investing in this, building this engine,   you know they did the G16E-GTS, the hydrogen  powered version of that it sounds incredible,   it's really cool and I'm sure this 5.0L V8  will sound incredible, and it's very cool,   there's almost no scenarios that I can  think of where this will actually sell.   It's really not that much better than their  existing gasoline products, other than the   fact that it outputs zero emissions. But, most  consumers truly actually don't care about that.   They just want a good product, they want it to  be fast, they want it to be reliable, and they   want it to be cheap. Hydrogen is none of those  things. But, I want to know what you guys think!   Let me know down in the comments below, do  you think hydrogen is a viable alternative to   gasoline or electric powered engines? Do you think  Toyota's kind of crazy for pursuing this and just   not letting the combustion engine die and  going full electric like almost every other   manufacturer is doing? Let me know down  in the comments. While you're down there,   smash thumbs up button. It really helps out the  channel. While you're down there, get subscribed   so you don't miss out on future videos! Check  out the other videos on the channel, we have a   ton of videos out there I'm sure you'll love all  of them and I'll see you guys in the next one.
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Channel: Dust Runners Automotive Journal
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Keywords: toyota, yamaha, v8, rcf, lexus, hydrogen, hydrogen engine
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Length: 9min 26sec (566 seconds)
Published: Wed Mar 02 2022
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