>>> TONIGHT, DEAL OR NO DEAL IN GAZA, AS ISRAEL BEGINS ITS ASSAULT ON RAFAH. THE STRIKE COMING AFTER ISRAEL ISSUED EVACUATION ORDERS WERE MORE THAN 1 MILLION SEEK REFUGE. THIS, AS THE CEASE-FIRE DEAL GAMES -- GAINS STEAM. ISRAEL SAYS IT DOES NOT REACH THEIR DEMANDS. -- >>> ALSO TONIGHT, DATE OF RAGE. DEMONSTRATIONS OVER THE ISRAEL HAMAS WAR IGNITE ATMORE U.S. COLLEGES, A STUNNING BLOW FOR STUDENTS AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY AS THE SCHOOL CANCELED ITS MAIN COMMENCEMENT OVER THE WEEKEND GRADUATION CEREMONIES INTERRUPTED BY PROTEST. IN NEW YORK CITY, POLICE ON HIGH ALERT AS A LISTERS MAKE THEIR WAY TO THE MET GALA, THE ARRESTS NOW BEING MADE CONCERNED DEMONSTRATORS COULD STILL THE SHOW. >>> FROMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP FACING A POTENTIAL JAIL TIME. THE JUDGE ISSUING A WARNING AFTER FINDING TRUMP IN VIOLATION OF HIS GAG ORDER ONCE AGAIN. CAN TRUMP ACTUALLY END UP BEHIND BARS? >>> HOUSTON BEHIND -- HUNDREDS RESCUED AFTER CATASTROPHIC FLOODS -- THE REGION. >> A MOTHER DESCRIBES THE MOMENT HER SON WAS CARRIED OFF BY WATERS. >>> TONIGHT, THE BIG FEAR, LIFE- THREATENING, LONG TRACK TORNADOES. >>> BUFFETS WARNING, WARREN BUFFETT SENDING A MESSAGE OF CAUTION. COMPARING A.I. TO AN ATOMIC BOMB. IN A DRAMATIC SHIFT, -- REDUCING ITS STAKE IN APPLE. WHY HE DID IT, PREDICTING A FINANCIAL SHOCK TO THE TAX CODE. >>> IS A BIG CHANGE COMING TO STARBUCKS? THE FORMER CEO OF THE COFFEE GIANT SAYING IT IS TIME FOR REBRAND TO TURN AROUND DISAPPOINTING EARNINGS. WHAT IT HAS TO DO WITH YOU, THE CUSTOMER. THE TALL ORDER HE IS ADJUSTING TO BREW NEW HOPE FOR THE GLOBAL CHAIN. THE TOP STORY STARTS RIGHT NOW. >>> GOOD EVENING, WE ARE FOLLOWING TWO MAJOR HEADLINES OUT OF THE MIDDLE EAST. ISRAEL CARRYING OUT NEW STRIKES ON IN THE CITY OF RAFAH. DESPITE GLOBAL PLEASE AGAINST AN ATTACK -- HOURS AFTER HAMAS AGREED TO A CEASE-FIRE PROPOSAL. NEGOTIATIONS HAVE BEEN ONGOING FOR WEEKS. ISRAEL IS SAYING THE CURRENT TERMS DO NOT MEET THEIR REQUIREMENTS. DESPITE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT, THEY WILL SEND A DELEGATION TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION. THIS NEW VIDEO JUST IN, SHOWING THE BOMBARDMENT AND RAFAH AS ISRAELI FORCES -- TARGET THAT REGION. 1.4 MILLION PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY SEEKING REFUGE IN THE REGION. THE CROWD CELEBRATED IN THIS TREATS OF RAFAH OVER THE NEWS OF A POTENTIAL DEAL. IN ISRAEL, PROTESTS BROKE OUT AS EFFORTS AMOUNT -- AND BRING THE HOSTAGES HOME. RICHARD ENGEL WILL START US OFF TONIGHT. >> Reporter: IN GAZA TONIGHT, THEY ARE CELEBRATING THEIR SALVATION, AFTER HAMAS ANNOUNCED IT HAD ACCEPTED A SWEEPING CEASE-FIRE. IT SEEMS THEY ARE CELEBRATING TOO SOON. ISRAEL SAYS THERE IS NO DEAL YET , THAT THE TERMS HAMAS EXCEPT DID ARE FAR FROM ISRAEL'S NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS. THEY ARE NOT THE ORIGINAL OFFER ISRAEL HAD ON THE TABLE. ISRAEL IS DISPATCHING AN -- TO NEGOTIATE. -- OUR CREW CAPTURING IT'S STARTING THIS MORNING. >> THERE HAS BEEN A RESPONSE FROM HAMAS TO THE HOSTAGE DEAL, WE ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING THE RESPONSE. >> Reporter: WHILE THE DETAILS ARE BEING REVIEWED, A SENIOR IN A -- NEGOTIATOR AS -- HAMAS'S POSITION HAS SHIFTED GREATLY OVER THE PAST 48 HOURS. THE DEAL WITH C TO FREE 33 HOSTAGES IN EXCHANGE FOR ROUGHLY 40 DAYS OF CEASE-FIRE, FOLLOWED BY FURTHER HOSTAGE RELEASES AND THE FREEING OF MORE THAN 1000 PALESTINIAN PRISONERS HELD IN ISRAELI JAIL. THE SOURCE NOTES, WITH ISRAEL NOT AT THE MOST RECENT NEGOTIATIONS, HAMAS AGREED TO ITS OWN TERMS, USING ITS OWN INTERPRETATION OF THE OFFER. ISRAEL BELIEVES 93 HOSTAGES CAPTURED ON OCTOBER 7th ARE STILL ALIVE IN GAZA. AND THAT MANY OF THEM ARE BEING HELD AND RAFAH REARED THE ONLY REMAINING CITY IN GAZA WHERE ISRAEL HAS NOT YET CONDUCTED MAJOR GROUND OPERATIONS. ISRAEL THIS MORNING ORDERED ROUGHLY 100,000 PALESTINIANS TO EVACUATE FROM PART OF RAFAH, USING LEAFLET TO WARN THAT INTENSE COUNTER OPERATIVE -- IS PACKED WITH MORE THAN 1 BILLION -- MILLION CIVILIANS WHO FLED THERE FOR THEIR SAFETY. >> RICHARD ENGEL JOINS US. LET'S GO BACK TO THE REPORTING YOU HAVE ON THE PROPOSAL FROM HAMAS. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE DETAILS OR REASONS TO BELIEVE THE ISRAELIS WILL AGREE TO THIS? >> Reporter: ISRAEL IS SENDING IN NEGOTIATING DELEGATION. THAT IS SOMETHING, I THINK HAMAS WANTED. IT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING -- SOMETHING OF AN ACCOMPLISHMENT. THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO TALKING ABOUT CONCRETE TERMS. WHAT HAMAS SAYS IT HAS AGREED TO IS MORE THAN WHAT ISRAEL SAYS IT HAS AGREED TO. THE TALK ABOUT RELEASING -- PRISONERS, PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED OF LIGHT SENTENCES IN THIS COUNTRY. THEY TALK ABOUT RECONSTRUCTION, THEY TALK ABOUT LIFTING THE SIEGE ON GAZA. THE PROPOSAL THEY HAVE EXCEPT DID IS QUITE -- ACCEPTED IS QUITE SWEEPING. WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN -- GOES TO CAIRO. AND HOW LONG -- MUCH THEY WILL WHITTLE BACK. I MAKING THIS ANNOUNCEMENT PUBLIC, HAMAS AND THE NEGOTIATORS HAVE PUT QUITE A BIT OF PRESSURE ON THE ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER, BENJAMIN YAHOO, WHO IS ALSO UNDER PRESSURE FOR NOT -- THE HOSTAGE FAMILIES ARE VERY OPTIMISTIC. THEY SEE THIS AS A MOMENT OF HOPE. THEY WANT NETANYAHU TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE A DEAL. >> THE WORLD IS WATCHING AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN MOVE IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION. I DO WANT TO GO TO ANOTHER PRESSING POINT IN YOUR DORY. THE 100,000 PALESTINIANS BEING ORDERED TO EVACUATE RAFAH. THE PEOPLE HAVE ANYWHERE TO GO? >> Reporter: NOT REALLY. THEY ARE BEING SENT TO AN AREA CALLED -- WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD TO GO. IT IS NOT VERY FAR AWAY, ON THE MEDITERRANEAN COAST. IT IS AN AREA THAT ISRAEL IS A DESIGNATING AS SAFE-ISH ZONE. ISRAEL SAYS IT WILL IF NECESSARY CONTINUE TO CARRY OUT ATTACKS, INCLUDING IN -- BUT IT WILL BE LIMITED, SO IT IS A SAFER ZONE. CITIZENS SAY THERE IS NOTHING THERE. IT IS JUST A BEACH, AND DESERT AREA, THERE IS NO INFRASTRUCTURE OR TENTS, OR FOOD, NO HUMANITARIAN SUPPLY. MANY PALESTINIANS HAVE BEEN DISPLACED MULTIPLE TIMES ALREADY. OUR CREW IN GAZA INTERVIEWED PALESTINIANS TODAY WHO WERE LEAVING. THEY WERE UPSET, THEY WERE OUTRAGED. THEY SAID, WE WERE ALREADY MOVING SEVERAL TIMES. WE HAVE FINALLY GOT OURSELVES SETTLED IN MAKESHIFT ACCOMMODATIONS AND RAFAH. NOW WE ARE BEING TOLD ONCE AGAIN TO PACK UP, TO MOVE TO EFFECTIVELY, THE OPEN AND DESERT. THEY ARE NOT GOING TO A WELL EQUIPPED AREA. THE HUNDRED THOUSAND COULD JUST BE THE BEGINNING. -- IF ISRAEL MOVES THEN, YOU COULD HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE MOVING. >> RICHARD ENGEL FOLLOWING ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT. >>> TONIGHT, COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY, THE HOME OF SOME OF THE MOST INTENSE PROTEST, THE LATEST IS, THEY WILL CANCEL THEIR MAIN COMMENCEMENT THEIR MONEY. -- >> Reporter: THE TIDAL WAVE OF PROTESTS ON AMERICA'S COLLEGE CAMPUSES. NOW COLLIDING WITH COMMENCEMENT SEASON. COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY TODAY CANCELING ITS MAIN GRADUATION, OPTING FOR INDIVIDUAL CEREMONIES. >> IT HAS BEEN A TOUGH TIME,. >> Reporter: AND MARIE -- IT WILL MOVE ITS COMMENCEMENT OFF CAMPUS, CITING SAFETY CONCERNS. LAST FALL, POLICE CLASHED WITH DEMONSTRATORS THERE. MEANWHILE, DEMONSTRATORS -- COVERED IN FAKE BLOOD STORMED NORTHEASTERN UNIVERSITY STAGE THIS WEEKEND. WHILE DEMONSTRATORS MARCHED THROUGH THE UNIVERSITY OF MICHIGAN CEREMONY. AT UCLA, DOZENS OF ARRESTS. DEMONSTRATORS CALLING ON THE SCHOOL TO DIVEST FROM ISRAEL, MARCHING AND HOLDING CITIZENS. THE ADMINISTRATION SAYING CLASS IT WOULD MOVE FULLY REMOTE THE SAME DAY CAMPUS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BACK TO BUSINESS AS USUAL. AFTER POLICE CLEARED AND ENCAMPMENT THERE LAST WEEK. TODAY, OFFICERS WERE CALLED IN TO REMOVE 10th AT UC SAN DIEGO, POLICE ARRESTING 60 PROTESTERS. -- MORE THAN 70 CAMPUSES NATIONWIDE, ARRESTING 2500. PROTESTERS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO, ERECTING THE TENT AROUND THEIR CAMP, AFTER NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE ADMINISTRATION COLLAPSED OVERNIGHT. FACULTY ASKING THE CAMPUS TO AVOID BRINGING IN POLICE. >> OUR MOST IMMEDIATE CONCERN IS THE WELL-BEING OF OURS UNITS. WE DO NOT WANT THEM GETTING BEAT UP BECAUSE THERE CAMPING ON THE LINE. >> Reporter: WILL THINGS THAT DEMANDS WERE INCONSISTENT WITH THE UNIVERSITY'S PRINCIPAL. >> WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY, WE ARE NOT GIVING INTO THE FIGHT. >> MAGGIE, I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE STUDENTS AND PARENTS YOU WERE TALKING TO. THEY NOW HAVE NO COMMENCEMENT. MANY OF THE STUDENTS LOST GREAT HIGH SCHOOL MEMORIES BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC. ARE YOU SENSING FRUSTRATION FROM STUDENTS? OR RELEASED -- RELIEF THAT IT MAKES LOWER THE TEMPERATURE? >> WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYONE EXPRESS RELIEF, WE HAVE HEARD FRUSTRATION AND SADNESS. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO FEEL DIFFERENT WAYS ABOUT THE PROTEST AND THE ENCAMPMENTS, LIKE THE ONE YOU SEE BEHIND ME. A LOT OF PEOPLE, THE CONSENSUS IS THAT THEY ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE SCHOOL. THEY THOUGHT THE SCHOOL COULD HANDLE SITUATIONS LIKE THIS WITHOUT FLAT-OUT CANCELING COMMENCEMENT CEREMONIES. IT IS WORTH MENTIONING, COMMENCEMENT IS SET FOR NEXT MONTH. BUT IT IS SET TO TAKE PLACE ON THE VERY SPOT ON THE SQUAD WITH THE ENCAMPMENTS BILL SITS TONIGHT. >> IT IS A PROBLEM FACING A LOT OF COLLEGES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE THANK YOU. >>> HERE IN NEW YORK CITY, THE NYPD ON HIGH ALERT AS PROTESTERS TAKE TO THE STREET AS PART OF THE "DAY OF RAGE". SEVERAL PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED JUST BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE BIG MET GALA, ONE OF THE BIGGEST NIGHTS IN FASHION, ATTENDED BY SOME OF THE BIGGEST CELEBRITIES IN THE WORLD. THEY WERE A PART OF A GROUP THAT FORMED AT HUNTER COLLEGE IN THE UPPER EAST SIDE, MARCHING IN THE STREETS, CALLING FOR A CEASE-FIRE. THAT GROUP GROWING IN SIZE, NOW APPEARING TO BE HUNDREDS STRONG. THE PROTESTERS KEPT OUT OF A PERIMETER, SURROUNDING THE METROPOLITAN MUSEUM OF ART. STEPHEN ROMO IS ON THE STREETS OF NEW YORK, HE IS JOINING VIA FACETIMED, COVERING THE PROTEST OUTSIDE OF THE MET GALA. OBVIOUSLY, IT HAS BEEN ON THE CALENDAR AND A BIG TARGET FOR DEMONSTRATORS. HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE ARREST? >> Reporter: WE HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN AT LEAST THREE ARRESTS SO FAR. THE PROTESTERS ARE TRYING TO GET CLOSE TO THE MET GALA. THEY ARE ACTUALLY SORT OF AVERTED NOW, BY THE NYPD, AND ALL OF THE BLOCKADES IN THIS AREA, BUT THEY DO WANT TO REACH THE MET GALA IN ORDER TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD. THEY KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF MEDIA COVERAGE, AND CELEBRITIES, THEY WANT THEIR MESSAGE TO GET OUT. THEY HAVE BEEN PROTESTING ALL DAY, THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THROUGH CENTRAL PARK TO GET TO THE MET GALA. THEY WERE UNABLE TO REACH IT. THEY DO NOT SHOW ANY SIGNS OF STOPPING, THOUGH. [ INAUDIBLE ] WE ARE TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THEM AS THEY TRY TO GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT THERE. >> STEVE, WE APPRECIATE THE IMAGES YOU ARE SHOWING US. I DO WANT TO ASK YOU, WHAT OUR VIEWER THROUGH HOW FAR YOU ARE FROM WHERE THE MET IS TAKING PLACE. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE PICTURES OF THE MET GALA, IF WE CAN SEE THOSE IMAGES AS WELL. >> Reporter: WE ARE PROBABLY ON THE -- WE ARE ON 79th AND LEXINGTON, WE MIGHT BE FOUR OR FIVE BLOCKS FROM THE MET GALA. THE PROTESTERS WERE NOT ABLE TO GET BY. WE COUNTED THE NUMBER OF STREETS BLOCKED OFF, ABOUT EIGHT TO 10 BLOCKS. KEEPING PEOPLE BACK FROM WHERE THE MET GALA IS. THESE PROTESTERS ARE FILLING THE STREETS. TRAFFIC HAS STOPPED NOT ONLY FOR THE MET GALA, BUT FOR THE PROTEST GOING THROUGH LEXINGTON, FOR EXAMPLE. IS SHUT DOWN RIGHT NOW. PEOPLE ARE GETTING FRUSTRATED IN THEIR CARS TRYING TO GET AROUND. CERTAINLY SEEING THE MESSAGES THESE PROCESSORS -- PROTESTERS ARE TRYING TO SHARE -- >> ARE THEY JUST RUNNING DOWN RANDOM STREETS? OR IS THIS A PART OF THE PROTEST PERIMETER? >> IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO FIND DIFFERENT ROUTES TO GET TO THE MET GALA. IT FEELS A BIT RANDOM, I AM NOT SURE IF THERE IS A PLAN. THE PERSON LEADING THE CHANCE, AT HUNTER COLLEGE, REFUSES TO SPEAK TO US. IT IS NOT CLEAR WHAT THEY ARE DOING. ONE THING THAT IS HAPPENING, THE PROTESTERS ARE -- THE SPECTATORS TO SEE CELEBRITIES OUTSIDE OF THE MET GALA. THERE ARE TWO GROUPS COMING TOGETHER, AND A LOT FOR THE NYPD TO HANDLE. >> IT LOOKS LIKE THE CELEBRITIES ARE DOING JUST FINE, IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THE DEMONSTRATORS ARE ANYWHERE NEAR THEM. WE ARE WATCHING THE LIVE -- ON OUR SCREEN HERE. HOW MANY PROTESTERS HAVE USED ON THE STREETS OF MANHATTAN TONIGHT? >> VERY DIFFICULT TO COUNT, I WOULD SAY A COUPLE OF HUNDRED SO FAR. AT ONE POINT IN CENTRAL PARK, TWO OF THE GROUPS WE WERE WITH AND ANOTHER GROUP CONVERGED. THEY WERE STARTING AT DIFFERENT POINTS AND CONVERGING TOGETHER IN CENTRAL PARK TRYING TO ACCESS THE MET GALA. >> STEPHEN ROMO REPORTING TONIGHT, AS THEY TRIED TO INTERRUPT THE MET GALA. UNSUCCESSFUL SO FAR. AGAIN, ARRESTS ARE UNDERWAY. WE DO WANT TO TURN OUT TO A MAJOR HEADLINE IN ANOTHER AMERICAN CITY. >>> A NEW SEVERE WEATHER THREAT TAKING AIM AFTER THE FLOOD EMERGENCY IN TEXAS LED TO MORE THAN 100 -- 600 RESCUES. TWO PEOPLE WERE KILLED, INCLUDING A FOUR-YEAR-OLD BOY. CARS FLOATING, AND LIFE DEVASTATED. -- >> RIGHT NOW, THE WATER GOT TO 18 INCHES. >> Reporter: IN TEXAS, RESIDENTS LIKE AUSTIN ARE RETURNING HOME. TOSSING COUCHES AND RIPPING UP THE FLOORBOARDS. SEEMS LIKE THIS PLAYING OUT ACROSS SOUTHEAST TEXAS, AFTER FOUR DAYS OF RELENTLESS FLOODING, SUBMERGED HOMES, SET CARS AFLOAT AND OFFICIALS SAY KILLED AT LEAST TWO, INCLUDING FOUR-YEAR-OLD LUCAS -- VIDEO SHOWS RESCUERS NEAR DALLAS SEARCHING DESPERATELY IN THE DARK FOR THE BOY. AFTER HE WAS SWEPT AWAY BY FAST- MOVING WATER SUNDAY, WHILE CLINGING TO HIS MOTHER, SHE SAYS 'S BODY WAS RECOVERED HOURS LATER, LEAVING HER HEARTBROKEN. >> NOTHING IS EVER GOING TO BRING LUCAS BACK. NOTHING IS GOING TO FILL THAT HOLE. >> Reporter: SINCE FRIDAY, -- MORE THAN 600 RESCUES AND EVACUATIONS IN THE HOUSTON AREA ALONE. EVEN USING JET SKIS TO SAVE A MAN AND THREE DOGS TRAPPED IN EIGHT FEET OF WATER. WHAT DOES REBUILDING LOOK LIKE? >> IT IS STARTING ALL OVER AGAIN. [ SOUND OF ARTILLERY ] WITH FLOOD WATERS RECEDING, ATTENTION IS TURNING TO WHAT COMES NEXT. YOU SOUND CERTAIN YOU WILL REVEAL. >> I GREW UP ON THIS WATER, I GREW UP MAKING MEMORIES WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY. HOW DO YOU GIVE ALL OF THAT UP? >> PRISCILLA THOMAS JOINS US NOW. WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST NEEDS RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU ARE? AND WHAT ARE THE DAYS AHEAD LOOKING LIKE AS FAR AS WEATHER GOES? >> Reporter: HERE IN SOUTHEAST TEXAS, THE GOOD NEWS IS, THERE IS NO MORE SEVERE WEATHER EXPECTED. THE WATER IS ALREADY BEGINNING TO RECEIVE. WE ARE NOT FAR FROM THE LAKE, AND IT IS GOING BACK IN THERE. THE BIG CONCERN FOR THE COMMUNITY IS GETTING INTO HEIR HOMES AND GUIDING THEM BEFORE ANY MOLD IS ABLE TO FORM, THAT IS A BIG CONCERN. AS WELL AS STANDING WATER. OFFICIALS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT PATH WILL STANDING WATER THAT COULD LEAD TO MOSQUITO PROBLEMS. >> WE APPRECIATE THAT. FOR MORE ON THE HIGH RISK PRENATAL THREAT, NBC NEWS BILL KAREN'S JOINS ME NOW. BILL, EXPLAIN THIS TO OUR VIEWERS. THESE ALONG THE TRACK TORNADOES. >> THESE TORNADO EVENTS ARE RARE. WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE IN OVER A YEAR AND A MONTH. THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR THESE AREAS. IT GIVES EVERYONE A HEADS UP THAT WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE TYPES OF TORNADOES THAT CAN TAKE OUT A TOWN. THOSE ARE THE SCARY ONES, THESE ARE THE BIG ONES THAT CAN BE ON THE GROUND AFTER SUBSET -- SUNSET. ANTENATAL -- A TORNADO WAS JUST CONFIRMED. THIS MAKES THE WITH US FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS, THIS IS A SUPERCELL. THIS IS WHERE THE TORNADO WAS JUST REPORTED. WE WILL TAKE THAT NEAR THE POND CREEK AREA. THESE ARE MOVING AT ABOUT 30 TO 40 MILES PER HOUR. HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER TWO HOURS UNTIL THE SUN SET IN OKLAHOMA, THAT IS WHERE THINGS WILL GET REALLY DANGEROUS. THE STORM CHANGERS WILL NOT SEE WHERE THEY ARE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE HAIL IN THESE STORMS. THESE ARE RARE, WE GET WHEN WE EXPECT THE BIG TORNADOES, WIDE SPREAD TORNADOES THAT CAN BE ON THE GROUND FOR A WHILE. -- KANSAS CITY, TO TULSA AND OKLAHOMA CITY, THESE WILL NOT ARRIVE UNTIL PROBABLY 11:00 P.M. TONIGHT, AND THEN MISSOURI AFTER THAT. IT WILL BE A LONG AND DANGEROUS EVENING. HOPEFULLY THE STORMS WILL MISS. THEY HAVE A POTENTIAL TO HIT, IF THEY DO, THEY WILL TAKE EVERYTHING OUT IN THEIR PATH. >> WE KNOW YOU WILL KEEP AN EYE OUT. >>> STILL AHEAD, WE WILL STICK WITH WEATHER AND THE DRAW DROPPING IMAGES FROM LAST MONTH -- NEW DASH CAM SHOWN THE MOMENT TORNADO TORE THE ROOF OFF A WAREHOUSE IN NEBRASKA 70 WORKERS STILL INSIDE. WHAT HAPPENED NEXT. >>> PLUS, A JUDGE IN TRUMPS TRIAL, >>> FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMPS TRIAL, THE JUDGE THREATENING TRUNK WITH JAIL TIME FOR VIOLATING HIS GAG ORDER, ONCE AGAIN AFTER TRUMP CLAIMS THE JURY WAS 95% DEMOCRAT. -- >> Reporter: TONIGHT, FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP FACE A NEW THREAT OF JAIL TIME AT HIS HUSH MONEY TRIAL AFTER HIS 10th VIOLATION OF THE JUDGE IS GAG ORDER. >> HE'S TAKING AWAY MY CONSTANT NO RIGHT -- ON ADDITIONAL RIGHT TO SPEAK. >> Reporter: -- THE MAGNITUDE OF SUCH A DECISION IS NOT LOST ON ME. YOU ARE THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED DATES, AND POSSIBLY THE NEXT PRESIDENT AS WELL. AS MUCH AS I DO NOT WANT TO IMPOSE A JAIL SECTION, I WILL IF NECESSARY AND UP WILL CREATE. >> FRANKLY, OUR CONSTITUTION IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN JAIL. IT IS NOT EVEN CLOSE, I WILL DO THAT SACRIFICE EVERY DAY. >> Reporter: THE JUDGE FINDING TRUMP AN ADDITIONAL $1000. COMPLAINING ABOUT THE JURY SAYING IT IS 95% DEMOCRAT. THE JUDGE SEEING THE FORMER PRESIDENT "WRONGFULLY CALLED INTO QUESTION THE INTEGRITY OF THE JURY". TRUMP HAS PLEADED NOT GUILTY TO LOW-LEVEL -- FOR DISGUISING REIMBURSEMENT TO MICHAEL COHEN FOR HUSH MONEY MONEY TO STORMY DANIELS AS "LEGAL EXPENSES". TRUMP CAN FACE UP TO FOUR YEARS IN PRISON VERSUS PROBATION. -- THE HEART OF THE PROSECUTION'S CASE, FALSIFYING BUSINESS RECORDS. TESTIFYING ABOUT INVOICES, DESCRIBING THE REIMBURSEMENT AS LEGAL EXPENSES. SAYING HE WAS ORDERED BY ANOTHER EXECUTIVE TO REIMBURSE COLIN $420,000 FOR THE $130,000 PAYMENT TO STORMY DANIELS. MOST, TO TRUMPS ACCOUNT. ON CROSS-EXAMINATION, -- SAID HE DID NOT SPEAK TO MR. TRUMP DIRECTLY ABOUT BUSINESS. DEBORAH -- TALKING ABOUT MR. TRUMP'S PROCESS OF SIGNING CHECKS. SAYING, "IF HE DID NOT WANT TO SIGN IT, HE DID NOT SIGN IT. IT WAS SIGNED IN TRUCKEE, AND IT WAS BLACK, THAT IS WHAT HE USES. >> WE GOT A SENSE OF HOW MUCH HUNGER POSSIBLY THIS TRIAL WILL GO? >> THIS WAS THE BEGINNING OF WEEK THREE OF TEST DAMONE. THE PROSECUTION FROM THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TODAY INDICATED THEY HAVE TWO MORE WEEKS OF WITNESSES TO BRING TO THE STAND. IT AT THAT POINT, ONCE THEY REST THEIR CASE, THE DEFENSE CAN CALL UP THEIR OWN WITNESSES ON BEHALF OF DONALD TRUMP. >> THERE IS A POTENTIAL THE DEFENSE DOES NOT PUT ON A CASE. YOU SEE THE DEFENSE RESTS AND THEN GOES TO THE JURY. >> ABSOLUTELY. ESPECIALLY THE BIG VARIABLE HERE AT PLAY IS WHETHER DONALD TRUMP, THE DEFENDANT HIMSELF TESTIFIES. THEY SUGGESTED REPEATEDLY HE WOULD BE KEEN AND IN -- EAGER TO DO SO. HIS TEAM ASKED HIM TO TAKE THE STAND, THAT IS OUTSTANDING. IT COULD VERY WELL GO TO THE JORY -- JURY IN SHORT ORDER. >> -- DANNY CEBALLOS JOINS US. THE QUESTION IS SIMPLE, DO YOU THINK TRUMP GOES TO JAIL? >> NO, I THINK HE EVEN GETS ONE MORE CHANCE. MY PREDICTION IS TRUMP WILL REEL IT IN, SO IF THERE IS A GAG HEARING, IT WILL BE A CLOSE CALL. HE WILL NOT STEP OVER THE LINE AND SAY SOMETHING OUTRAGEOUS ABOUT A MEMBER OF THE JURY AT THIS POINT. HE WILL HEW CLOSE TO THE LINE, IT MAY LAND HIM BACK FOR A HEARING, IT IS UP TO THE PROSECUTION FOR A MOTION, I THINK HE WILL BE CAREFUL. IF IT IS A CLOSE CALL, I DO NOT THINK THE JUDGE WILL THROW HIM IN JAIL. >> IF HE DOES, WHAT WILL THE PROCESS LOOK LIKE? >> THAT WOULD BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE NIGHTMARE. -- THAT REQUIRES AN OUTLANDISH AMOUNT OF LOGISTICS. HE IS FOLLOWED BY SECRET SERVICE EVERYWHERE HE GOES. AGAIN, THE OPTICS ARE BAD. NOBODY WANTS THAT TO HAPPEN. I DO NOT CARE WHAT TRUMP SAYS, HE DOES NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. -- >> IF HE WAS NOT TRUMP, THEY WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE COURTROOM RIGHT TO JAIL, RIGHT? >> I WOULD SAY HE IS GETTING SOME LENIENT THE BECAUSE THERE IS A RELUCTANCE TO HOLD HIM IN CONTEMPT AND PUT HIM IN JAIL. JUDGES WILL PUT OTHER -- YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF IN JAIL. >> FORMER PRESIDENT, STEPPING ON THE LINE, WE WILL SEE IF HE CROSSES IT. WHEN WE COME BACK, -- A LIST OF DONALD TRUMP'S POTENTIAL RUNNING MATE SEEMS TO BE SHORTER. >>> BACK IN WITH THE TOP STORIES NEWS. WE TALKED WITH ANOTHER -- DETAINED IN RUSSIA. A U.S. SOLDIER HAS BEEN DETAINED IN RUSSIA. ACCORDING TO U.S. OFFICIALS, HE HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF STEALING FROM THE WOMEN. -- HE ALLEGEDLY TRAVELED TO RUSSIA ON HIS OWN, AND NOT UNDER OFFICIAL BUSINESS. THERE ARE CURRENTLY -- AMERICAN CIVILIANS DETAINED IN THE COUNTRY. >>> LOOK AT THIS, DASH CAM FOOTAGE SHOWN THE MOMENT A TORNADO TORE THE ROOF OFF A FACTORY AND NEARLY FLAT IN THE BUILDING. MORE THAN 70 WORKERS WERE STILL INSIDE. SOMEHOW, NONE WERE SERIOUSLY INJURED. THE PLASTIC MANUFACTURER LAYING OFF -- SAYING THE ENTIRE FACILITY AND EQUIPMENT INSIDE WERE DESTROYED. >>> STARBUCKS IS EX-CEO SAYS THEY NEED TO -- TO START THINKING ABOUT CUSTOMERS AGAIN. THE COFFEE CHAIN SUFFERED AT 17% DROP IN SALES AFTER UNDERPERFORMING IN THE LATEST QUARTERLY REPORT. YOU MAY REMEMBER THIS GUY, HOWARD SCHULTZ, -- HE SAYS THE COFFEE CHAIN WILL RECOVER IF THEY IMPROVE THEIR MOBILE ORDER EXPERIENCE, AND OVERHAUL HOW IT SERVES YOU DRINK. >>> POWER AND POLITICS, -- THE GOP FRONT RUNNER WING INTO OPTIONS FOR RUNNING MATES. NEW DETAILS EMERGING, A HANDFUL OF REPUBLICANS JOINED THE PRESIDENT AT MAR-A-LAGO THIS WEEK AND. SASHA BURNS HAS MORE OF THE DETAILS. >> Reporter: TONIGHT, FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP THAT DOWN IN A MANHATTAN COURTROOM. >> [ INAUDIBLE ] >> Reporter: BUT STILL, PREPARING FOR A CRITICAL CHOICE, WHO WILL BE HIS MVP. WE LEARNED NEW DETAILS AFTER SEVERAL -- JOINT HIM AT A DONOR RETREAT. MARCO RUBIO, JD VANCE, ELISE STEFANIK, BYRON DONALD AND --, ACCORDING TO AUDIO FROM TRUMPS SPEECH. ALSO GETTING A SHOUT OUT, KRISTI NOEM, DESPITE BASING BACKLASH DESCRIBING HOW SHE KILLED HER FAMILY'S DOG IN A NEW BOOK. >> THE PURPOSE OF TELLING THE STORY IS SO PEOPLE KNOW I DO NOT CAST MY RESPONSIBILITIES OFF TO ANYONE ELSE. >> Reporter: -- SCOTT WAS PRESSED ON WHETHER HE WOULD ACCEPT THE ELECTION RESULTS IN NOVEMBER. >> YES OR NO, WILL YOU ACCEPT THE RESULT IN 2024? >> I LOOK FORWARD TO PRESIDENT TRUMP BEING THE 47th PRESIDENT. >> SENATOR, THAT IS A YES OR NO ANSWER. >> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL MAKE THE DECISION. >> Reporter: MICHAEL RILEY TELLING ME -- LAWSUITS ACROSS 25 STATES. >> WOULD YOU SEE ARE PEOPLE SAYING THESE LOSSES -- CLAIMING THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN IN 2024, IF PRESIDENT BIDEN WINS. >> WE ARE TRYING TO DO, THROUGH THESE LOSSES, GET STATE TO IMPLEMENT COMMON SENSE ELECTION -- PROCESS, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH VOTER SUPPRESSION. >> Reporter: MR. TRUMP'S TRIAL, NOT HARMING HIM. >> HE CAN HAVE AN IMPROMPTU PRESS CONFERENCE AT THE COURTHOUSE, EVERY CAMERA IS GOING TO BE ON HIM. THIS IS A GUY WHO ABSOLUTELY CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE AMERICAN VOTERS. >> EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE LAWSUITS WE MENTIONED ARE TARGETING HOW AND WHEN IT MAIL IN BALLOTS CAN BE COUNTED, -- SAID THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON TRYING TO GET REPUBLICAN VOTERS TO VOTE EARLY AND BY MAIL. THAT IS A PRIME -- PRIORITY. THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAS BEEN VOCAL ABOUT MAIL-IN BALLOTS, HE DOES NOT LIKE THEM. HE HAS SAID IN THE PAST, THEY ARE CHEATING. IN A RECENT TRUTH SOCIAL POST, HE ENCOURAGED PEOPLE TO VOTE BY MAIL. -- BELIEVE THEY HAVE GOTTEN HIM TO COME AROUND. THEY ARE PUSHING A BANK YOUR VOTE, VOTING BY MAIL EFFORT -- BY THE RNC. >> -- LET'S BRING IN FORMER TRUMP WHITE HOUSE DEPUTY, HOGAN GIDLEY. ALWAYS A PLEASURE. I WANTED TO PUT UP A LIST OF THE VP CONTENDERS. -- WHO ARE YOU PICKING OUT OF THIS LIST RIGHT HERE? GIVE ME YOUR TOP TWO CHOICES. >> I HATE TO BE THAT GUY. I DO NOT THINK I CAN. THE BENCH IS THE. WE HAVE A LOT OF TALENTED FOLKS UP THERE, TRUMP LIKES THE MALL. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT HE WANTS IN THIS POSITION. DO YOU WANT SOMEONE WHO WILL KEEP THE, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, AGENDA GOING? NOT FOR FOUR YEARS, BUT FOR 12? DO YOU WANT SOMEONE WHO HAS THE INSIDE TRACK TO BE THE POTENTIAL NEXT PRESIDENT, SHOULD YOU BE ELECTED? DOES HE WANT SOMEONE WHO CAN UNDERGIRD ALL OF HIS POLICIES PRESCRIPTIONS, FIGHT FOR HIM IN FRONT OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, TAKE ON THE THE TRACTORS, -- DETRACTORS, BE ABLE TO WORK ON CAPITOL HILL. THESE ARE THE THINGS A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LOOK AT. I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT GEOGRAPHY. FOR A LONG TIME, PEOPLE THINK YOU ALWAYS WANTED OF VICE PRESIDENT THAT COULD PICK YOU UP ESTATE YOU WOULD NOT GET NORMALLY. THAT THEORY HAS BEEN OUT OF THE DOOR FOR A LONG PARAM -- TIME. BARACK OBAMA WAS NEVER GOING TO LOSE DELAWARE, BIDEN WAS NEVER GOING TO LOSE CALIFORNIA. IT IS ABOUT CHOOSING SOMEONE WHO FILLS A GAP. -- THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, SOMEONE WHO CAN PICK UP THE MESSAGE AND CARRY IT THROUGH TO THE FINISH LINE. THAT IS WHAT PEOPLE LOOK FOR IN VICE PRESIDENT. BIDEN NEEDED SOMEONE YOUNGER AND MORE DIVERSE. THE FACT IS, I THINK TRUMP WILL FILL IT WILL -- WITH SOMEONE WHO COULD TAKE UP THE -- AND REALLY TAKE IT TO THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA YOU KNOW HE LIKES TO DO THAT. >> HOGAN, YOU ARE SOUNDING MORE LIKE A POLITICIAN. LET'S GET REAL TONIGHT. I GAVE YOU THE MICROPHONE. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THREE THINGS. HE WANTS SOMEONE WHO LOOKS THE PART, HE WANTS SOMEBODY WHO CAN TRUST, AND HE WANTS SOMEONE HE CAN LIKE. IF THOSE ARE THE THINGS, WHO DO YOU THINK IS ON THAT LIST? >> BY THE WAY, I THINK TRUST IS A BIG ONE ON THAT LIST. THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE CONSISTENTLY TALKED ABOUT, TIM SCOTT, JD VANCE, KRISTI HOM -- HUCKABEE, NOT ON THAT LIST. THEY THINK SHE UNDERSTANDS THE ORBIT. I THINK THE LIST IS GETTING SMALLER AND SMALLER BY EVERY DAY AND PASSING MOMENT. HE HAS A LONG LIST TO CHOOSE FROM. YOU SEE THAT PLAYED OUT. HE LIKES TO GET ON STAGE AND FEEL OUT THE CROWD A LITTLE BIT. HE IS TAKING STOCK IN HIS MIND WHEN HE SAYS SOMEONE'S NAME. HOW THE REACTION IS FROM THE CROWD. ARE THEY REALLY EXCITED? LUKEWARM? >> I AGREE. WE HAVE 20 SECONDS LEFT, -- WHO ON THAT LIST DO YOU THINK IS NOT GOING TO BE THE PICK? GIVE ME ONE. >> I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T WANT TO SAY A NAME. I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYONE IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE THERE. I THINK THEY ARE ALREADY TO BE HIS RUNNING MATE. DO YOU HAVE THE CHARISMA TO GET OUT THERE AND DO IT? DO YOU UNDERSTAND TRUMP WORLD? WILL YOU GO TO THE MAT FOR THE PRESIDENT -- THAT LIST GETS SHORTER AND SHORTER WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF WHAT THE CANDIDATES SAID ABOUT HIM. THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO CHOOSE -- IF HE LOVES MORE THAN SOMEONE WHO HAS LOVED HIM FROM DAY ONE, IT IS A CONVERT. I THINK HE LIKES THAT BECAUSE HE APPRECIATES HIS ABILITY TO MAKE THE DEAL, IF YOU WILL. >> COMING UP, THE ORACLES WARNING. WARREN BUFFETT SPEAKS ON ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE, AND-- EVERY SUNDAY ON NBC. >>> WE ARE BACK NOW WITH MONEY TALKS. WHAT CONSUMERS AND INVESTORS NEED TO KNOW FROM THE BUSINESS WORLD AND ON. WARREN BUFFETT ADDRESSING THE GROWTH OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. AT THE ANNUAL -- SHAREHOLDER MEETING, COMPARING IT TO THE INVENTION OF THE ATOMIC BOMB. >> I DO NOT HAVE ANY ADVICE. -- I DON'T THINK WE KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT -- I DO THINK AS SOMEONE WHO'S NOT UNDERSTAND -- IT HAS ENORMOUS POTENTIAL FOR HARM. >> FOR MORE OF HIS WARNINGS AND HEADLINES FROM THE MEETING, BRIAN CHEUNG. LET'S TALK ABOUT A.I., -- >> WHEN IT COMES TO A.I., THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR THE ORACLE OF OMAHA. -- STOCKS IN A I HAVE SHOT UP. WHEN IT COMES TO A.I., WARREN BUFFETT SAYS DEEP FAKES FREAK THEM OUT. IT SOUNDS LIKE HE ADMITS THAT A.I. IS ALREADY EXPLOITING AND GROWING, AND HE HAS ETHICAL CONCERNS ABOUT THE WAY IT IS BEING USED. >> HE THINKS THERE IS A BUSINESS POTENTIAL THERE? >> THAT IS IMPORTANT. HE IS AN INVESTOR, AT THE END OF THE DAY.'S POINT IS, THERE MAY BE SOME BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU [ INAUDIBLE ] >> INVESTORS LOOK TO THE ANNUAL SHAREHOLDERS MEETING, A GIFT SO MUCH INFORMATION. THE ORACLE LOOKS INTO HIS CRYSTAL BALL AND SHARED WITH US WHAT HE SEES TO BE THE MACRO ECONOMIC CONCERN. HE IS SELLING HIS APPLE STOCK. NOT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN THE COMPANY, HE SAYS, BECAUSE OF TAX REASONS. >> RIGHT NOW IT'S 21% CAPITAL GAINS. EVERY TIME YOU SELL, YOU WILL TAKE THAT HIT. HE HAS A CONCERN THE TAX RATE COULD GET LARGER IN THE FUTURE. >> -- TAXES WILL HAVE TO COME UP. AND THERE'S ALSO A DEBATE ABOUT INVESTORS -- AGAIN, THE APPLE STOCK -- WE HAVE TO REMEMBER -- >> WE LOST WARREN BUFFETT PARTNER. HE IS UP THERE IN AGE. HOW DOES HE ADDRESS THE FUTURE OF BERKSHIRE? >> HE IS 93 YEARS OLD, NO SPRING CHICKEN. HE JOKED AT THE MEETING THAT HE HOPES EVERYONE COMES BACK NEXT YEAR, HE HOPES HE DOES TO. HE LOST HIS LONGTIME BUSINESS PARTNER AND FRIEND. IN EVENT LIKE THIS, HE IS TALKING ABOUT ROTTER -- IS A FOOLS ERRAND, TOO. BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HAS HAD MORE SUCCESS THAN ANYONE BEING ABLE TO DO THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS HE IMPARTED, CHARLIE AND I MISSED A LOT OF THINGS, WE NEVER WORRIED ABOUT MISSING SOME RING WE DID NOT UNDERSTAND. >> THAT IS WHY THEY STAY AT A CRYPTO TO THE. HE TRIED TO GIVE INVESTORS SOME REASSURANCE THAT THERE ARE LEADERS IN PLACE IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN TO WARREN BUFFETT, RIGHT >> GRAY CABLE, IS ESSENTIALLY THE NEXT IN LINE AT BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY. WARREN BUFFETT HAS BEEN PLANNING THIS FOR MANY TIMES. -- THEY HAVE THE PIPELINES AND PLACES AS A STORIED ORGANIZATION WITH A LOT OF NAMES THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. YOU JUST WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE SHARE PRICE. >> YOU DO NOT GET THE ORACLE AS A NICKNAME OUT OF NOWHERE. >>> WHEN WE COME BACK, A SPECIAL INTERVIEW FOR HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY. A SURVIVOR WHO WAS BORN IN A HOLOCAUST . TELLS US HOW SHE DEDICATES HER LIFE AND SUPPORTING >>> TONIGHT, WE WENT TO AND OUR SHOW REMEMBERING THE 11 MENU -- MILLION PEOPLE KILLED DURING THE HOLOCAUST. IN JUST A FEW MINUTES, I WILL SIT DOWN WITH A SURVIVOR OF THE HOLOCAUST, BORN IN BUDAPEST . BUT FIRST, A LOOK AT -- SHE AND HER FAMILY WENT THROUGH. -- TODAY, SIRENS SOUNDING A WARNING DRILL, THEY WERE NOT WARNING A MISSILE. IN THAT, THEY BROUGHT THE CITY TO HALT FOR, YOM HASHOAH, HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY. IS REALLY STOPPING WHEREVER THEY WERE, INCLUDING ON THE HIGHWAY, TO TAKE THE TWO MINUTES OF SILENCE TO MOURN THE CLOSE TO 6 MILLION JEWISH PEOPLE, INCLUDING CHILDREN. REMEMBRANCE OF EVENT HAPPENING IN EUROPE AND HERE IN THE U.S. THE HOLOCAUST, SPANNING FROM 1933 TO 1945, WHEN ADOLPH HELP THERE, HIS SS FORCES AND ALLIES CARRIED OUT HIS "FINAL SOLUTION", A GENOCIDE PLAN TO READ THE WORLD OF JEWS. AND OTHER GROUPS BASED ON -- RACE AND -- >> 1939, AND THE LIFE QUALITY AND -- POSSIBILITIES DECREASED. YOU COULD NOT WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT ANYMORE. YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP YOUR WEALTH. YOUR INTELLECTUAL POSITIONS. >> BY 1944, 800,000 JEWS WERE LIVING IN HUNGARY. THE ACTUALLY TOPPLED THE GOVERNMENT, PUTTING IN PLACE DIVINELY -- VIOLENTLY ANTI SOMATIC -- IN JUST EIGHT WEEKS, MORE THAN 420,000 HUNGARIAN JEWS WERE TRANSFERRED TO AUSCHWITZ. THOUSAND MORE SCENT ON DEATH MARCHES TO AUSTRIA. 80,000 JEWS WERE SHOT ON THE DANUBE RIVER. 70,000 -- NORN AS THE THAT STATUTE KNOWN AS THE BUDAPEST . MANY DIED TO DISEASE AND STARVATION. >> IT WAS MIDDLE OF THE COLD OF THE WINTER IN THE 20th CENTURY. WITH TECHNICALLY NO HEATING, NO ELECTRICITY. >> HUNGARY WAS LIBERATED BY THE SOVIET -- IN 1945. LESS THAN ONE YEAR AFTER DEPORTATION STARTED THERE. ACCORDING TO -- AN ESTIMATED 560,000 HUNGARIAN JEWS DIED IN THE HOLOCAUST. >> IF YOU GO TO THE COUNTRYSIDE IN HUNGARY, YOU WILL FIND MORE JEWISH PEOPLE. >> TODAY, NEARLY 80 YEARS LATER, AN ESTIMATE OF 245,000 HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS ARE STILL ALIVE. ACCORDING TO THE ROOF WORDS, THE MEAN AGE OF SURVIVORS IS 86 YEARS OLD. -- AIM TO COLLECTOR STORIES, SO WE NEVER FORGET WHAT HAPPENED. >> IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO REMAIN -- REMEMBER EVERY NAME. >> TONIGHT, WE ARE LUCKY TO BE JOINED BY A SURVIVOR OF THE BUDAPEST . SHE AND HER MOTHER ARE SURVIVORS OF THE HOLOCAUST. SUSAN WORK AS AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF THE HOLLOW CAST -- HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS BEAKER BUREAU. -- SUSAN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. >> IT IS HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY, I KNOW THIS IS A SIX -- SIGNIFICANT DAY. MAYBE IT HAS MORE SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE OF OCTOBER 7. TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT TODAY MEANS FOR YOU. >> I THINK MORE THAN EVER BEFORE, THE IMPORTANCE OF SPEAKING OUT AND NOT BEING SILENT. THAT IS WHAT IS ALWAYS BEEN FOR ME. MY FAMILY WHO PERISHED WERE -- THE PEOPLE WHO SURVIVED WERE SILENCED BY THE TRAUMA. THERE WAS NO TELLING. I DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING. MY PARENTS NEVER TALKED ABOUT IT. THIS IS WHY I FEEL I CANNOT KEEP SILENT. I NEED TO SHARE, I NEED TO TELL THE STORY. I NEED TO REMEMBER THE PAST. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY WE CAN HONOR THAT. AND WE HAVE MEMORIAL DAY, WHICH IS COMING UP SOON. TO REMEMBER ALL OF THE PEOPLE WHO -- WE HAVE JULY 5th, IT IS ALL ABOUT MEMORY. >> THE TIME NOW WITH THE PROTEST IN THE WAR, WHAT DOES IT MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT THE TIME WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW? >> IT MAKES ME VERY SAD. IT MAKES ME SCARED. I AM SCARED THAT IT ESCALATES. I AM ALSO SCARED THAT IS NOT ACHIEVING -- WHICH IS JUSTICE AND THE END OF VIOLENCE. I THINK YOU AND I SITTING DOWN, TALKING. TO SIT, TO TALK, TO LISTEN TO EACH OTHER. IT IS THE ONLY THING -- I AM SCARED OF WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. >> ARE YOU SCARED OF THE ANTI- SEMITISM YOU ARE SEEING OUT THERE I KNOW A LOT OF ANTI SEMITISM HAS COME TO THE FRONT. SOME OF THEM, NOT ALL OF THEM. >> IT DOES SCARE ME. THE THING IS, I AM USED TO IT AS A YOUNG CHILD IN -- I DID NOT KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANT. I DID NOT KNOW WHY THEY WERE CALLING ME NAMES. AFTER THE COMMUNISTS TOOK OVER HUNGARY -- WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, I WAS 12. AND IT WAS LIKE, PEOPLE SAID I AM JEWISH. YOU CAN SAY THAT? IN SCHOOLS? IN FRONT OF OTHER PEOPLE? IT WAS AMAZING. WHAT KEEPS ME HOPEFUL IS HERE, YOU CAN SAY IT. AND I DO NOT THINK I CAN BE PERSECUTED FOR BEING THAT. >> IT IS HOLOCAUST REMEMBRANCE DAY, I KNOW YOU LOST YOUR FATHER AND SISTER IN THE HOLOCAUST. AND YOU WERE BORN IN THE BUDAPEST . DO YOU REMEMBER LIFE AT ALL THERE? >> I WAS IN INFANT. I DO NOT REMEMBER. WHAT IS AMAZING IS, I REMEMBER MY MOTHER'S MEMORY. IS CALLED EPIGENETIC, OR GENERATIONAL TRANSMISSION OF TRAUMA. THERE IS A PSYCHOLOGIST THAT HAD DOCUMENTED THAT SECOND AND THIRD GENERATION CAN INHERIT THE TRAUMA, EVEN THE DNA CAN CHANGE. SO I REMEMBERED AS IF I REMEMBER MY MOTHER'S STORY OF TRAUMA. >> EXPLAINED THAT THE PEOPLE -- TO PEOPLE, HOW DO YOU DESCRIBE THAT? >> I HAD MEMORIES WHEN I KNEW THERE WAS SEPARATION AND PERIL IN MY MOTHER'S LIFE. SHE NEVER SPOKE ABOUT IT. I WAS A CHILD WHO NEVER ASKED ABOUT IT. >> HOW DO YOU THINK THAT HAPPENED? I KNOW THAT WAS PERVASIVE. WHY DO YOU THINK THE JEWS WERE LIKE THAT? >> WHY THEY DID NOT TALK ABOUT IT? >> YES, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT POSTTRAUMATIC STRESS DISORDER, -- YOU DO NOT HEAR ABOUT HOLOCAUST SUPPORT GROUPS. BACK THEN, I KNOW THAT WAS NOT -- >> NO SUPPORT GROUPS. YOU HAVE PTSD. >> AND YOU KEEP IT INSIDE? >> I THINK THEY KEPT IT INSIDE. NUMBER ONE, THEY SAID PEOPLE WOULD NOT BELIEVE THAT HAPPENED. >> IT WAS SO ATROCIOUS. >> EXACTLY. NUMBER TWO, I THINK IT WAS TOO PAINFUL TO BRING UP. ALSO, MY PARENTS, THEY WANTED TO -- A NEW LIFE. THEY HAD ANOTHER CHILD, THEY CAME TO AMERICA. IT WAS A NEW LIFE AND THEY DID NOT WANT TO GO BACK THERE. >> WHY IS TODAY SO IMPORTANT? YOU TALK ABOUT NEVER FORGETTING THE HOLOCAUST. >> YOU MEAN IN PARTICULAR TODAY? >> I KNOW IT IS IMPORTANT TO ALL JEWS, ESPECIALLY IN ISRAEL, BUT YOU? >> WORST OF ALL, I AM HAPPY TO BE HERE TO TALK ABOUT IT. THAT MAKES IT IMPORTANT. IN ALL OF THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY ISRAEL, THERE ARE A LOT OF MEMORIALS. THERE ARE TESTIMONIAL. ESPECIALLY -- TO COMMEMORATE THIS KIND OF ATROCITY AND REMEMBER WHAT CAN HAPPEN WHEN YOU DON'T SPEAK UP. WHEN YOU ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT. WHEN YOU ARE NOT TAKING ACTION, WHAT CAN HAPPEN. >> DO YOU TURN OFF THE TV IF YOU SEE SOME OF THE IMAGES, IF THEY ARE BURNING THE IS REALLY FLAG OR CULTURES THAT ARE SAYING THINGS THAT COULD BE INTERPRETED AS ANTI-SOMATIC? THERE ARE STUDENTS THAT SAY THEY DO NOT FEEL SAFE ON CAMPUS. I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THAT WOULD BOTHER YOU. >> WHAT BOTHERS ME, ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY ACTIVE, ACTUALLY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE STORY OF GAZA AND ISRAEL. AND HOW THIS ORIGINATED AND THE HISTORY. THEY ARE RESPONDING TO WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW. -- THERE IS A LITTLE PIECE OF IGNORANCE, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION TO KNOW WHAT TRULY HAPPENED. >> WHAT DO YOU HOPE HAPPENS IN GAZA? YOU ARE SOMEONE WHO SUFFERED IN A IN HUNGARY. YOU LOST YOUR FAMILY. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE DYING IN GAZA. -- I HAVE TO THINK MAYBE YOU FEEL FOR PEOPLE IN GAZA TOO. THERE ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE TO GO RIGHT NOW. >> ABSOLUTELY. I FEEL LIKE HAVING THE HISTORY I HAVE, I THINK I HAVE SO MUCH COMPASSION FOR THESE MOMENTS. I COULD JUST SIT AND CRY ABOUT IT. THIS IS WHY I DO SHUT IT OFF. THE INJUSTICE -- THEY LOSE A SON JUST LIKE THE ISRAELIS MAY HAVE LOST A SON. -- CAUGHT UP IN THE TIMING OF HISTORY HERE AND NOW. >> YOU HAVE A LOT OF -- IN THE STUDIO RIGHT NOW. I THOUGHT YOU WOULD COME IN HERE AND TAKE A MOMENT AND LOOK AT THEM. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT YOUR OWN LIFE, WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED? >> WHEN I LOOK AT THESE PHOTOS, I DID NOT KNOW I WAS GOING TO BE SURROUNDED BY MY PAST. IT MAKES ME VERY EMOTIONAL, BUT IT ALSO MAKES ME VERY HAPPY. AFTER IT HAPPENED. IT TELLS ME EVEN AFTER IT HAPPENED, YOU CAN MAKE AND NO LIFE. YOU CAN BRING FORTH A NEW GENERATION AND YOU CAN TEACH PEOPLE AND YOU CAN RENEW YOUR LIFE AGAIN. >> SUSAN, WE THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND SHARING SO MUCH. WE THANK YOU FOR CONTINUING TO SPEA
