Tommy Robinson: Live On LBC

free and impartial advice worth following Nick Ferrari at breakfast on LBC with Hampton by Hilton with over 2,000 hotels worldwide 836 you're listening to LBC this extraordinary story of the wouldbe conservative MP's plot to put together a race rally and then he would have seen as a sort of shining night to try and resolve it it all hinges on work done by Tommy Robinson who was the founder and I think former leader of the edl the English Defense League who joins me in the studio Mr Robinson thank you for coming in are you Mr Amin is saying you are still the leader are you still the leader of the edl no I'd like to clear that first of all um since leaving the English defens league I had had no contact with anyone in that in that organization up until Asel contacted me when there was an English Defense League demonstration which was in his constituency of Dudley and um what year was that Mr this was February this February this febru yeah I met AAU a year ago yeah um and I've met a lot of progressive Muslims since leaving the English Defense League who want to counter extremism Asar was introduced me to me as well of them right but this meet him it was in the buildup to English def who did you meet Mr am through just out of Interest I met him at quam at Quil and this was around June of last year no I I first met him um 2013 2013 yeah right through quilliam through quilliam okay so on you go so I had um I'd met afel and he contacted me and said can I come down and see you he come down we went for S we and he asked me to meet the leaders of the English Defense League could I help facilitate a meeting with the leaders of the English Defense League um Asel ticked all the boxes from when I'd met him he ex forces his counter extremism he says it in in these recordings he agrees with 95% of what the English Defense League had stood for and he wanted to help combat those problems so I facilitated a meet him we went up to Dudley I left him talking to the English Defense League that was my part played and and i' done that for the greater good even for the English Defense League it was for the greater good and dialogue I introduced them together for dialogue right right so the English Defense League was for greater good some some of my listeners will think how on Earth can you say that no the no the for the reason the reason for forming the English Defense League was for great good the reason was to tackle a problem that was very much there the tactics and some of the behavior of people during demonstrations no I can understand that your listeners will not agree right right and now I don't know you aware of what Mr Amin is saying he's saying that you only met um that when you first met you were in tears regarding your mother's illness and the plight of your children to be honest and he says in June there doesn't he which I find it quite awkward reading his statement and his response to this what he needs to do is be honest and I told him that on the phone the morning this was breaking it's time for you to be honest yeah this was what yesterday morning or when it was breaking on Sunday Sun Saturday so I spoke to him so the paper would have made you aware that so Saturday morning you had a telephone conversation Satur yeah I had a telephone conversation where I said it's time for you to be honest now and that's it you did you mean by that um be honest with people tell the truth the the problem is this is not my word against aels this is pure video evidence in which afal clearly states this is my fantasy this is my idea and then he goes on and and for him to say he's been taken out of context or anything like that with this has been filmed For an upcoming documentary as well every single minute of this is on camera in no way at all I said I can't believe I'm even being asked to call question by AFA now after this have you ever quotes presented yourself in tears regard and I I I appreciate your mother's not been well so I don't want to to labor that too much but were you in tears concerning your mother's plight your mother's illness and the plight of your children no I wasn't you've never presented yourself no no have you ever sought financial support from him no never what if I go through this I mean that hints at Mr R I'm going to put this candidly blackmail yeah have you ever attempted in any way shape or form to Blackmail no I have not and and to be honest I can't believe his response to this when you can see it oh it's all there when you can see it you can hear him I don't lead him at all when he come and met me and he and he bought this everything was running fine until he come and met me and he bought his money man with him this money man asau was driving his car yeah which was a big £60,000 motor when he come and met me he he told me he's worth 660 million sorry who's worth the money man yeah who you're not going to identify well um I don't I do know his identity but I'm not going to be honest I already upsetting people yeah with this story okay now this money man is worth £60 million he is not a conservative what line is the money man in he's well in business uh chicken po he's got 25 businesses 25 25 businesses now he's the money man he's come down and told me he he will do whatever it takes to get affa in a fair will you give me the identity of the man okay he he will do anything to get affa in now this to me straight away caused alarm when I met him and he started offering me all these things I I pushed him on certain things like are you a conservative no he's not a conservative this is this other M so he's not conservative and he's backing someone and he's doing anything possible to get him in that I see is infiltration of a political party so did he say he was with have a different agenda he what is what he's not a conservative did he indicate he vot labor and and what he also and he says that this is all on tape yeah and what he also says which his brother says is the reason why they wanted afsa in is because when they were getting harassed by the police yeah then what they would be able to do is ring up afel as their candidate as their parliamentary he would be able to ring the chief of police yeah to me I'm and listening to all this like this is concerning very very concerning when we've seen the infiltration of political parties into to our hamlets and places like this yeah this is exactly the same it's a trojan horse of getting people into play and I saw then I looked at Asel as a puppet I saw him as a puppet and for me the reason why I went to Great Lengths to get this recorded was because people wouldn't believe me so when did it change then because initially you meet and you you warned to him you think that actually this could be a bloke who could be good for what you're trying to achieve move all the the hote heads to one side you've never supported them this blo might actually get when did it suddenly turn and you thought this is a problem the arrival of this money the money because there was no with the arrival of the money man and when was that broadly speaking uh it was my daughter's birthday which was the 9th of March as recent as that recent as that yeah on that's this month a few weeks ago yeah a few weeks ago yeah right okay on we go and he's come to meet me and he's come down to Lon they've took me to a Muslim restaurant in Luton with the with the characters the money man was talking about he's from Birmingham and and the character he was talking about that he's friends and Associated within Luton I know are not nice people yeah and they involved in criminality so straight away I'm alarmed what form of criminality everything they are gangsters everything so I'm then this is when I'm getting very very concerned thank God we didn't name him otherwise we would be in trouble okay now you made an interesting point that if they had got your claim is if they' got Amin in you said if there was any trouble they would have been able to what sort of trouble we talking about he was talking about he said the what he says is the police were harassing him and they raided his mother's house over some um car ring car ringing thing or something and and and to this I look at all of the politics in this country and for me it's everything that's wrong I then look at RAM and cases like this where we've seen blatantly the police not AC in and you have to ask question why and I'm putting it all was this man you think involved in grooming as well uh his hot his hotel that he owns was done in a sting operation by police for grooming right I see so there's a lot there's a lot that when this is going on I am alarmed and I am concerned and asau with what he's coming out with now ASA needs to understand every conversation from the minute it's not it's not like the 10 it's not like that there's 10 minutes worth conversation from the minute I get out of the car and go into that meeting which is in the restaurant again owned by this money man when I go into that meeting everything is on record everything is recorded how long was your two and a half hours and everything's recorded every single minute till I get back in the car there's nothing that's not on camera and for this it's it's about time I think there's enough dishonesty in politics anyway I think many people would agree How likely is it that Amin would be fully aware of the money man's background I the law the the criminality well I don't know if he does have a criminality background um he said the money man yeah well I don't know if he has I'm saying the people he was talking about in luten yeah are he said he owned the hotel he does own a hotel yeah would I mean be a how I don't know if the hotel owner was aware that it's been used for grooming so when he when with what he's discussing that conversation was that um the police had done some operation how close is am mean to this money extremely close so he would be aware of that yeah 20 years 20 years he said he's they've been they've been together and um for me it was just it's alarming and it was shocking so you decide that this has to be exposed it has to be exposed what happens you contact the paper no I didn't no no what happened next was um I went down myself into London so I put him off when he asked to meet the English Defense League to put this offer to them I put AA off and said they're not available I then traveled into London to a spy shop to try and buy camera cameras yeah it's £900 it was for a pinam so then I rang a documentary maker that working on a documentary with me and I explained the full situation to them I said this is what's going on this is what's going on I then got cameras and I went and arranged a meeting for the Monday and is this your colleague who's in the studio with us now is that who gave you some support on that no no that's someone else okay and and then what we did was um I went up and again this was the only since that first meeting where I met with the English Defense League this was only the second time I've met again with them which was I went up to the chairman house I picked him up and then I explained everything to him I said look there's I'm not sure what's going to be offered cuz I wasn't entirely sure I said but it's underhand it's financial and it's wrong so we need it on camera and I explained it to him I said so bite your lip in this meeting cuz he had to bite his lip so so at the meeting there was obviously There Was You There was am me there was the money man and there was there was the money Man's brother money who's also said that that's one who makes the comment about their support and he makes the comment about the police in that in that meeting I see um and there was um yeah that's it and the edl leader and yeah and the chairman for the Ed right do we have his name or is that Steve edos right okay and he's meeting as well yeah he was at this meeting as well but he was privy to the whole the whole thing was going on I explained it all to him and said look you're going to have to bite your lip and he had to bite his lip he said when he come out he felt the same insulted right right we've got some headphones there we just want to play you a couple of clips from the recording you did and and and get your your take on this this was one of the things this is I mean talking on the the possible influence you've hinted at Mr Robinson so what what uh what's been proposed to you is that you uh you you hire them okay and then we'll work out what contribution if any they can make directly to our campaign and what they can do directly for you but let's talk about that face to face yep okay then cool no problem because we obviously can't hire people in that way because that would be against election rules and we don't want to break any rules that's okay so what so I'll pay them and then we'll sort our account between me and you yeah of course of course yeah of course yeah no problem fact that was about this POS let's go back to Mr Robinson live um this is obviously the payments would have been made then subsequently from am mean you take that well when the money man come and met me they told me that um so long as I can get so long as I could help them help them get him into Parliament yeah I would never go hungry I'd be financially looked off they asked me how much my outgoings were was that mean present when that was pres and then it's at this meeting then then so they say how much do you need a year and you say x whatever it might be how much how much you AR GS a month they said and I said this much and they said easy easy to sort out and that was at the first meeting when they come to as long as you broke up this deal for the f as long as I helped them do this so they wanted me to do it all yeah at that point I was I'm not comfortable in doing that and and at which point I said you're going to have to ask the English Defense League yourself as when we first started talking Mr Robinson you said that Amin tick many of the boxes he was involved his ex-military he was involved in the sort of things supposing you've been set up supposing he now says Ah I was doing it all to lure them in to get as deep as I could go how would you respond he can't it's all on camera mate I record the whole lot but he he might he might say he was playing a role deliberately playing a role yeah look try and get deep into the look at what he's saying his response to this when I've read that is embarrassing okay it's in what way embarrassing it's ridiculous it's ridiculous if you listen to the recordings and tapes he just needs to hold his hands up and accept what he's done wrong yeah and what he's did is categorically wrong categorically it's dishonest he wanted to deceive the electorates of Dudley he wanted to deceive the police and the reason why I one of the reasons why I want to expose it was also the police would have been completely played in this and they are being played in many circumstances like this across the country and I wanted them to realize that look he keeps St mentioning now Chris Chris Johnson the head of the police so as I'm reading it he just needs to accept what he's done wrong and be very honest about it and Ju Just to to to Really nail this down so you you find that a spy camera is an inordinate amount of money £900 is more than anyone really could afford you bring this documentary team or whatever it is you get someone how does it then find its way to the newspaper um yes we contacted the newspaper right to put the story out why did you do that because it has to be exposed yeah so it has to be exposed and I'm not I wasn't to be honest sure of the legalities either of what I'd done by recording him in in a in a restaurant well that's for the paper to worry about of course now is yeah of course absolutely it was for me to worry about um have you achieved what you wanted um yeah I I I believe we have to really question not just on this case of Asa Min we have to question which I see is a trojan horse infiltration of political parties which is going on by people with completely different genders to those political parties and I don't believe this is bigger than AF Salman I believe that the the people financing him it's it's wrong and it's corrupt and there's a lot of questions that need to be asked about it and if you and now if you listen and here you need to remember on these tape recordings what he says now he's coming out saying I'm an extremist well on these tape recordings that he says in a year's time he's going to say to David Cameron Tommy Robinson was right yeah this is all recorded from his mouth Tommy Robinson was right on grooming Tommy Robin all the and it's unfair the the um the treatment I face from the police he says all of this his mouth and now he's coming out and trying to say I'm an extremist and by saying I'm still leader of the English Defense League is ridiculous why would he be doing that why would he be saying that you asked if you're not the leader what what's in it he's trying to discredit me he's trying to say that I've got an agenda and the reason for why I'm doing that's what he's doing but it's also a Muslim organization have now come out and told and and said that they want that he had contact them and asked them to come out and say and and campaign against him in the buildup to it and the last time you spoke with I mean was on Saturday morning Saturday morning was he then aware that the newspaper was going to publish at first he wasn't aware that I had recorded it I don't think so he started calling me he also called my wife's phone and then he start he texted me saying urgent urgent call I got all the texts and then um and when I and when it then I answered the phone and was just I was just said look my poker face is gone because it's now time to just tell you straight right I recorded it and I recorded it for these reasons and you now need to be honest because everything's on record how did he respond to that Mr Robinson why have you done this why have you done this and and to be told him what I told him why to be honest I feel incredibly awkward yeah I don't feel like um I feel awkward in the fact that he's probably having a a terrible time right now yeah and I don't feel happy about that and I know that it's probably causing him complete distress but he's done wrong feel happy about it why did you put it in there because he's done wrong what I mean on a personal level on a personal level I'm not taking any pleasure out of what's how the situation he's in but he's put himself in that situation he's done wrong I exposed it and I when I say I didn't feel comfortable I thought a bit of a grasp in my in my circle that's how I felt but at the same time I had to weigh everything up he's sitting in that meeting and his money man saying you're looking at the next prime minister of this country yeah you're looking at the future Prime Minister it's all on record it's all recorded right he then says he says on record I wouldn't be getting into this if I just thought I could be an MP the conservative party have already offered me what um what committees or cabinets I want to sit on then what he says this is another thing that wound me up about it because this is true as well he says that there's 500 people in a conservative meeting and afa's there with his money man his money man's all pictured with David Cameron as well asau sat there with his money man and um as as Cameron walks in asau says to the money man don't go to him he'll come to us yeah and then what David Cameron does is he walks around everyone else who's trying to make a beline for him he ignores everyone else and he walks straight up to ASA and the other Muslim fellow and he shakes their hand and says how's the campaign going on now this is what we see which I see as people IGN I we feel ignored for a section of the community in my town yeah which we feel a treat white working white working class this is exact what that one little scenario of David Cameron walking in ignoring everyone else and walking straight up to the Muslims that's exactly the scenario that we see playing out in this country and that has to be addressed and and what it seems is same as baroness VY he would have been promoted to a position within that party which for me had to be stopped and it would have been because he represented a community that the conservatives wanted and that's simply it it would have been appeasement that's simply it he's he's a Muslim speak so on Saturday morning he did he know it was going to publish on the sun was he aware yeah that's when he knew yeah and I think he denied when if you read in the article when the newspaper first contacted him I believe he denied even meeting me until he realized it was all on video did he lose his temper with you no just pure puzzlement and anger no just bewilderment just bewilderment I guess this if if what you say and I have to say if what you say is true Mr Robinson uh you're really taking on some pretty influential and some pretty scary people well that's that that's the concern I had about this yeah that's the complete concern I had um this is not it's not a joke I've obviously for the last five years took on and I've had death threats from from Al shabab I've had all these different things um and that was the big decision I had to make cuz everything had just died down for me and this has exploded it and my wife's not happy about this or my wife was begging me not to do it when I said what was going on um but for me it had to be exp yeah so you got issues now at home I've got issues at home there's nothing worse than being dog house but and you're concerned about the I've been in the dog house for 5 years right yeah I give me the ages of your children roughly uh three five and seven you got to be worried about them as well yeah because what and what this money man says in the first in so so in your Lang language as you said are you Brave or are you a grass uh I'm not a I'm not a grass it's difficult one it's um I see myself anyway as a dead man walking but that's I've seen myself like that for 5 years so why do you do it because it's right and it's morally and what what what we've been standing what I'm standing up for trying to highlight we look at circumstances like this grooming Scandal I don't think that would have been out here without without the formation of the English Defense League I don't think it would have been people wouldn't have talked about these issues so what bad has come from it also good has come from it if issues are getting addressed now and you know he's listening now I mean you know he'll be listening what do you want to say to him be honest that's it simply it's time to be honest stop cut cut cut the nonsense listen I'm very grateful for you coming in you certainly moved the story on uh I do mean this look after your family I hope you chew what you want all right that's Tommy Robinson appearing exclusively here on LBC where it's 855 every hour hundreds of phones and tablets are neglected replaced by new phones tablets tossed aside scared and uncharged at game

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Views: 229,562

Keywords: LBC, LBC973, politics, UK Politics, talk radio, talk, radio, news, lbc, Nick Farrari, interviews, election, UK Election, debate, conversation, Tommy Robinson (Organization Founder)

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Length: 19min 12sec (1152 seconds)

Published: Mon Mar 23 2015