TK Kirkland on Kevin Samuels, DMX, Jay Z & Dame, Kim & Kanye, Ray J, Dr Dre & Eazy (Full Interview)

all right here we go tk kirkland welcome back to vlad tv always a pleasure vlad always a pleasure always a pleasure for everything you did for me during the pandemic when we wasn't working thank you for just the love and um respect you've always shown me as a g and i appreciate that's why i'm always here when you need me of course man i mean there was a number of of comedians that were in a rough state during the pandemic that couldn't do shows and everything else like that the people that we rock with that have been rocking with us i made sure i took care of everybody you know i mean during that time right you were doing okay and you know the people that couldn't do those live shows that have been helping our platform i made sure to overcompensate right they're okay yes so thank you for them thank you for me you know we truly appreciate it and here we are here we are here we are so let's get into it let's get into it for me i think the first topic we're going to talk about today is lala anthony files from divorce from carmelo okay said after after a lot of years yes apparently there was a there was a new baby that kind of yeah another girl picture you know the girl that you know they allegedly had the baby with yeah okay yeah i know the girl and i met her in the bronx maybe six months to a year before she met him and she was at a strip club and listen to me drop dead [ __ ] gorgeous you hear me so when she got pregnant by him you know i i saluted her because if you're gonna give your [ __ ] to somebody and let a [ __ ] nutting you why not let it be carmelo anthony you understand what i'm saying the thing that i didn't understand why was why did lala take her time to get a divorce and then it gave me a different perspective of her right you know some some women loved a man so much because the way they was raised they'll love you and the new baby i don't know if they do that no more but when i was coming up in my era when some men sum that oh man some men cheated and there convinced the woman [ __ ] this is our kingdom girl the woman take care kid like it she had him wait so the baby mother or the the side chick gives up the baby doesn't give it up but the woman accepts the other child that's interesting yeah i don't find that all that strange to be honest really but the basketball player who plays for utah with the beard that got hurt in the last game that didn't play but he's a veteran his wife had a baby by another man if i'm not mistaken and he stayed with her hmm okay are you talking about okay who who who are you talking about here he was the the he's a he's a veteran he got he has the beard and he has the braids and he'll think he's a point guard i forgot his name mike conley mike conley's girl had a baby from somebody else his wife or just his girlfriend i don't know if his wife is somebody but the story got to me that he stayed she had a baby and he stayed in her life now i don't think i'm wrong i'm probably like 99 sure and the great thing about vlad is he does his due diligence okay hold on i'm about to look this up because okay that sounds interesting grizzlies mike connolly responds to allegations of cheating wife with excellent tweet he said uh he stayed with his wife she cheated on him and had another man's baby boom i'm 100 on point again i love it and he actually posted a picture of the baby my little guy blue eyes runs in the fam i'm not that nice uh the results are in mike you are the father well i guess he's saying it's his baby though okay so that's so that's the it is this kid but well she yeah that's what he's saying okay all right so here's the thing a situation like that if he was gonna say she cheated and claim most men who do accept another man's child will say that's my child and just like go through life pretending that it never happened because that's what happens when you cheat right and i was talking about this on my show the other day people who cheat gotta be great actors and actresses right because if you forgive each other and get back together you truly got to live the rest of your life pretending that didn't happen well i mean it's an interesting kind of thing right okay because i feel that although people put a lot of emphasis on biological children [Music] at the end of the day if you raise a child from birth regardless of whose dna it is that is your child i agree if you are in that child's life you are changing diapers you're teaching them how to read and write and ride a bike and play baseball and you're there for him and you're you know you are the father no this is why you adopted yeah if you adopt a kid you're going to say that's not your kid here's your adopted kid right you're you're the parent of the child but you're not the father and let me send you what i mean okay yeah okay is it because you taught the person to think the way you think and you taught them the right thing sometimes parents teach kids the wrong things but one thing i tell any man any woman any child who claims that my father was never there always show your mother and your dad the utmost respect because they gave you life see that's something the other the parent couldn't do if someone gave you life and listen to me run with it now this is this is great scenarios right uh people who didn't have parents or they died in a life want to be [ __ ] historic athletes and et cetera lebron james a lot of football players basketball players who they tell you their dad wasn't around right but they grew up to be this amazing person and i say to myself sometimes what if the father was in the in their life and you didn't become who you are because it's possible the dad could have took your driven by different things exactly the dad could your dad could have took you a whole nother direction well for example i interviewed jalen rose right and his father who was a professional basketball player himself was not in his life at all had a bunch of different kids wasn't really in any of their lives had had some problems eventually died and not a lot of people went to his funeral but the way jalen described it as like look this man passed down his dna to me and i ultimately won at life i became a professional basketball player i had a great career i went on to have a sports casting career rich famous family everything else like that he has no bitterness at all to his father i like that he won he won at life and he went to his funeral and you know yeah he wishes he probably could have had a better uh you know a better relationship but the end of the day maybe it's the lack of relationship that gives you the drive that's right that you know you don't want to be like this guy right i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna be rich and famous and i'm not i'm gonna treat my kids better than the way yeah i was treated right by this guy who i never got to meet you don't know what drives everyone some people get driven by positivity some people get driven by negativity right and some guys know some parents when they are in their life the kids turn out to be depressed or crackheads it could be so many different things and like you know how we always talk we like to talk about things that people are probably thinking about going through every day because they really listen to you and i and i just want people to just dig deep down inside don't be depressed don't be depressed find something that motivates you and try to find your purpose right because when you find your purpose you have an advantage on the average person right like for example you look at chet hanks tom hanks's son yes one of the great actors of our day oscars you know one of the biggest stars in hollywood his wife very successful uh raised their kids yes and chet became a fuck-up right isn't that something just became a fuck-up right like ran around using the n-word right like as a white guy uh had a had a baby with some chicken rehab right him and his black girlfriend were beating each other up on camera doesn't have any level of career that i've seen right now you know begging women for two hundred dollars in his dms like the [ __ ] out i'm telling you i've seen some i've seen some crazy stories about this guy you know i remember me and him how to interview uh scheduled and the day of the interview he said well i'm just not gonna make it without any excuse sorry man and then just [ __ ] off our whole day yeah but at the end of the day you could have this great beautiful rich successful family and you will still end up in the gutter that's so true if if you don't have any level of motivation you know is you got to be in your kids life um and you got to hope your dna is turns out right in your church and before you talk about the next one you know something i'm going to talk about i want to talk about too i want people to understand how to deal with death when their parents die a lot of people collapse after their parents die they're close to their mother they're close to their dad and they feel like they can't live anymore on this earth and i just want people understand tell your story everybody like i lost my dad when i was 14 years old he drowned in staten island swimming in the ocean and undercurrent took him then my brother gets murdered by the police they shot him seven times him turning the corner my youngest bro my youngest brother died of an aneurysm and my mom died of cancer all before i was 40 years old right everybody was gone before i was 40. and i'm questioning more tragedy stories and that but one is in my dna to be driven like i'm driven just in to be in my 60s and still be driven is amazing right because i know my purpose and i keep going and i have things that i want to accomplish but i want people that when your family dies to mourn but start going for walks start going to the gym and hit something about a boxing class these type of things to release that energy don't just sit there and get depressed and drink and feel sorry and be prepared be prepared for with life insurance be prepared with um mental state of mind and understand guardianship see the state can come take your mother or dad take everything from them you're not aware and you can't get your mother or your dad back so you got to do your research you know people over talk about they want to put their mother and dad in a senior citizen home well you better make sure that you know the rules because those people want to know how much your family has in the bank they want to know what kind of property you have and what those companies do and it's a a thing that's not really talked about a lot right how these states and these attorneys appointed guardianship people steal from your family and take everything and sell your house sell your cars and there's nothing you could do so get on top of that because we're all getting older these are things that have to be discussed before you get there and no one talks about that so understand that people because you don't want your mother to be in a situation like that you don't want to be in a situation like that and i always tell people it's not how well you live it's how well you die well i mean this reminds me of the dmx situation that's happening right now yes uh dmx passed away suddenly yeah at 50 years old now that the dust is starting to settle you're starting to hear what's what was happening under the hood okay so number one he did not have a will whoa number one he did not have a will he had 17 children whoa his estate they're saying was possibly worth less than fifty thousand dollars because he owed the irs seven hundred thousand dollars prior to his death but you know it's still dmx right so he still has a catalog and if he owns some share that there is going to be a future you know revenue because obviously his songs will live on and you know he's got movies and so forth but now there's a whole fight that's happening yeah so for example his you know we report a story on this his fiancee went to the courts and they had been engaged like two years his youngest son i believe i don't know six months old is with her she tried to go to the courts and seize control of his estate and she was turned down by the judge that would have put her at a higher position than all of his other children right and all of his other kids mothers right she got turned down so now there's this fight over his estate with like 17 people involved yep and you know what that means and to the people who listen let me explain with lads going if i could take a little deeper 17 different children are gonna have if they can if they could afford it we'll have seven seven 17 different attorneys right okay let's make sure we understand this 17 different attorneys who will take one-third or whatever it is or every attorney is not doing this for free every attorney will take one-third of whatever is left on that table right then you got the state who's going to do their thing what's that call when they send it to the state to figure it out um it's not debate it's um oh i know i know what you're talking about you know what i'm talking about um probate probate yeah they do a probate and ladies let me tell you something with the state do with probate sometimes they take 10 12 13 years to figure out who gets what and me and vlad again have been talking to you guys about life insurance about a will years ago i think me and you now doing this like five six years now so we've been talking about this about the will thing for years give example um aretha franklin had 80 million dollars no will the sons who i don't think really all got along had to get different attorneys and that money went into probate as well things they don't talk about things that the public should know about so they can stay like my auntie's always say cya cover your ass you got to live every day ladies and gentlemen like today you're going to die that means you get your [ __ ] together my mom used to always say have your house in order and it doesn't mean with the lord it means everything it means your paperwork your your will is your children straight all right you together come on people education knowledge is everything right i mean i just interviewed jj fadd whoa i haven't seen them have you seen them in a while all three members wow all three members supersonic yes yes they was on tour with me with nwa right because they were the first they had the first hit record on ruthless yep they sure did before nwa and ez and the doc all went platinum and gold yes supersonic a girl group from a three girls from the suburbs yes had the first hit record on easy ease labels yes and essentially you know they left the label you know they still were getting their royalties and everything else like that but they talked about how when easy died things got derailed right right and one of the things they pointed out and this was something that i've talked to with other people who are on ruthless records is that easy was lying on his deathbed dying of aids and he got married to tamika on that death bed yes sign signed the you know the marriage certificate as he was dying now was it was it his signature probably did he know what he was signing right as you're nobody was there to protect his interests right she wouldn't you know one of the things they said that she would not let his own parents or his children see him in the hospital wow you know apparently they got married on his death bed yeah there's there's that you know and was that a valid signature as a person's dying of aids right then unconscious and probably unconscious yeah did he actually sign up because the sign here yeah i actually know what you sign in i mean you could have just been because your signature was legible as the judge said but do you know what you were signing right i mean you're days away from dying right you're clearly not in your complete mental state by any stretch of the imagination and i think that's where some of the the anger and the bitterness and everything else like that comes from because nobody was allowed to see him you know she wouldn't let anybody in so if if it was the way that they depict it to be why couldn't somebody see him you know why couldn't his kids right just his kids go in you know freaking parents forget anybody else yeah his own parents couldn't see him at one point they couldn't oh wow there was no explanation as to why it just was a lot of mystery and that's the best mystery surrounding it yeah yeah who knows so she she separated out and you know i mean listen if she wants to tell her side of the story she's welcome to come on the show and describe it because we're only hearing one side right but essentially she controlled the entire empire from that point on forever the nwa movie had to go through her right you wanna you wanna put an nwa or an easy e song or a bone thugs and harmony song in your tv show or movie she has to sign that and what they said is that the the royalties stop coming like the money started getting funny right and you know even i remember i interviewed his son a little easy he said that he took his kid to the doctor to find out he no longer had health insurance man he's these kids i don't know how he like 11 kids or something like that they're not doing great financially now her and her child that she had with eric are probably great right but she controlled she controlled the whole thing he did not have his affairs in order right and so someone else made order of his offense that's why i always tell people like i won't you know sometimes i want to get married right sometimes i'll go through i might have i might want to get married like maybe five minutes in a day and then like and that six man like what the [ __ ] am i thinking about right and one of the fears because of my journey in this life i've seen men who were married to or new women who daz was married or didn't get a divorce from the woman that he was with years ago that woman comes back in his life on his deathbed takes care of him change the paperwork change the life insurance policies the kids are smiling thinking that oh she's wonderful she's taking care of dad or mom and gets ripped off yeah yeah every day every day every day and you know one of the stories they told me in the interview uh which i'd never heard before and you were actually there because you were on tour with with ruthless records in nwa is that easy e basically would give fake music contracts to to various girls on tour to make them think that they're going to be signed to the label you know i've heard some crazy stories about easy e personally being on tour you know like between the girls and the guns and everything else like that what were some of the craziest things that were happening you know with easy and nwa during this time we see naked women in backstage just they just was ready to give it all to them like oh my god yes we've seen some stuff you can only imagine a girl with a banana what she did with that banana yeah he had he had fake well i don't should say he had contracts that um i don't think they ever were like real contracts for for aspiring girls oh oh okay they were going to be stars i didn't know that wait a minute i did not know that he basically said if you sleep with me i'll give you this contract no you thought you thought you was going to go singing okay let me hear you sing right let me see your tonsils into your vocals in other words i don't even think he had to say that right no yeah no i'm just saying you said contract i'm talking about yeah yeah i'm saying like oh if you sleep with me i'm like i don't even think he even happened yeah say anything you know pull out the contract the rest just falls into place all right oh are you famous yeah yeah whichever side okay i don't know about that part but i just know they had a crazy i was much older than them right and like when you see the scenes of them having the orgies in the hotel rooms and all that i never moved that way i always had my own chick i always did my own thing we talked about that one time i had i met some girl in kansas city you know back then you know having money you know i i just like flying women different places and taking them shopping that's me so that's when ren knocked off one of my chicks it was one of the great learning experiences of all time so i had took this girl shopping i'm going to the um the concert to get ready for the concert and she's taking her time no no you know i'm not thinking enough because this is my first national tour and i'm not thinking anybody gonna get me like that bam easy came knocking on my door two o'clock in the morning you know he was such a comedic guy and he said come here come here he said say like rin [ __ ] that girl and he just dropped right on the floor in the hallway and rolled i like about three rooms down it was the fight i had to put the girl out and everything vlad but um who would ever have thought these stories these these journeys of nwa will be as powerful and impact to this day amazing right i mean because if you look at west coast hip-hop as a whole it all originated from that tree yes that that tree that i'm gonna say the easy e planet now you could say it's dre you could say it's cube but honestly if it wasn't for easy yes there's a reasonable chance that none of this would have ever happened i totally agree he had the money he had the let me tell you when you watch the video because i didn't know i mean watch the movie i didn't notice i didn't know they had a group that they was going to sign it didn't work out dre said to easy why don't you try to do it easy goes in the booth and boom this is what you call organic and how the universe plays because regardless of dr dre's personal life when it comes to music things fall in order from eminem to 50 cent to the man that got him the deal with dre beats insane forget his personal life personal life is chaotic but or lifewise for his business amazing and for easy to have the money that he did at the time for easy to have the voice for them to have ice cube in the in there to write like the world works right as you you're at that age now you understand all energy and right organicness and all that is fused together and and when you see that type of blessings so to speak to create and you know and then life [ __ ] up right money comes in um somebody's way of thinking doesn't want to pay this person that's become i always tell people get your own [ __ ] regardless of you work for someone spin off to get your own [ __ ] regardless you do something with someone your goal your goal from that moment on if you get put on is to get your own [ __ ] and that's just what and you can still say you with someone right but you could say i'm an independent contractor you don't work for nobody you work for you so what have we talked about again ein numbers llc have we talked about this [ __ ] we talked about it for years if people would have listened to us years ago they would have been prepared for the pandemic they would have been prepared for the coldest hustle that ever hit american soil and that was the ppp sba loan legitimately we're not talking about illegal we talking about having your paperwork in order doing the right thing and having a chance to get money that they're going to forgive you about they're they gonna let you they gonna say [ __ ] it right but you know speaking of of easy e and dr dre you could say well dr dre was such a talent that he would have made it regardless but life doesn't always work that way no i agree life doesn't work that way the world class wrecking crew had had a few songs that reacted locally right but were not this was not a huge international sensation yeah it was it was a group in la that was popular mostly in l.a because let me tell you living in the bay i never heard of the world class recognition no no no it didn't make it to the bottom you know to the top of california right you know much less nationwide and he was going in and out of jail easy was bailing him out you don't know what would have happened along the way could have been stabbed in jail because you know nobody nobody bailed him out that's right you know uh he could be you know a 50 year old man in his bedroom making beats right now on fruity loops that's true certain people meet certain people right you they say being at the right place at the right time and you saw how when easy met jerry heller right and that was all easy thinking after that to take them to the next level and they had such an impact that even when in 1988-89 when we was going through um kentucky when was going through omaha nebraska and i saw the young men thinking they were gang members i saw the influence now the positive influence i saw the influence of what nwa had on the country right they had uh and they had the young youth by the balls in this country and is not to take anything away from the run dmcs right it's nothing to take away from the llc's because i'm the east coast i've i've been on both sides i've rocked with um the cash 20 million rockwith um the rappers out the east coast but nwa changed lifestyle they changed the mental and the way people move to the point that you hear people talking about gangsta rap to this day it was they invented gangsta rap they put gangsta rap on the map they weren't necessarily the first gangster rappers ice t was doing it before them in l.a right right puny g was doing it before them what was they calling the gangster rap though see i don't think so i don't think so i don't think so but when they came out they eclipsed the genre and really became the poster children of gangsta rap to this day the look the feel the music the content the slang when you think of gangsta rap you think of nwa when you when you think of [ __ ] the police what's more gangster than that yep exactly what's more gangster than telling the police to go [ __ ] themselves and it's a hit song and they're going around touring it with police in the in the audience right yeah yeah man it's it's it's pretty crazy it's it's like i said we just want people to have their stuff in order like if i got to come on this show as many times until the day i die and preach about having your [ __ ] in order it means a lot to me because no one talks about it vlad well when we talk about having things in order did you hear what's happening between dame dash and jay-z right now i saw that and i think dame dash is doing the right thing what do you think his part he's part owners of it i think he he's part owner i i i when those two got started i don't tell the story about jay-z and damon dash right go ahead 1995. um i'm staying in brooklyn i'm doing shows i throw a big party in harlem all my gangster friends eric von zip haitian jack frankie b everybody comes to my party we mink coke crocodile got the cars outside and my friends hire this local rapper but they are late true story they late i'm cocky i got chris style and you know we had a comedy show we want the rappers to perform and they're like joe tk um my man is here i got to [ __ ] them [ __ ] yo they late you know i take late very serious another day so my boy convinced me to let this young man go on stage and this [ __ ] turned it out vlad he the crowd went insane i pulled him to the side he had to not money gave him all hundreds fifteen hundred dollars it was jay-z and damon dash from that moment we had a relationship so as they grew my friendship grew with them so i became their opening act on the hard knock life tour so i seen them two come up together now the thing a lot of people don't know about damon dash is damon dash is a very passionate man too passionate right too passionate and i've seen success go to a lot of people's heads i don't know how bad it got with damon dash but um it must have gotten to the point that jay-z got irritated it hurt me that those two couldn't get it on hurt me that he had to sell rockefeller rockefeller records i mean split it rockefeller where and all that i mean this is just a bad marriage but again damon dash didn't protect him so i don't know his spending habits i don't know how he was moving but again people you don't want to have all your eggs in one basket you gotta you gotta take things from people and apply it to your life and say i don't want that to happen to me let me cover my ass so when damon when when i saw that the other day that he's to sell it to the highest bill i said good for you because at the end of the day don't nobody give a [ __ ] about you get as much money as you can for something that you participated in right well from what i understand the the three of them started rockefeller together it was jay-z dame dash and biggs right i never met biggs til later he was very quiet i love biggs yeah very quiet you know we've done uh two or three interviews okay but but he's just like the character and the way he holds himself yes is just i admire him a lot yeah solid dude in that in that regard very a very solid deal they started the label together all three of them at one point they they sold everything to def jam right you know and that was from what i understand that was really the plan all together right it was like from the very beginning we're going to build this thing up and then we're going to sell it for whatever 100 million dollars right it was going to cash out and and so forth the label dissolved people went their separate ways now jay-z now they owned reasonable doubt together because that was before def jam right def jam came in on album number two okay and so forth and they and they own the masters and everything else like that so when they sold everything went over you know completely to def jam now afterwards jay-z was offered to be the president of def jam and part of the deal was they gave him the masters for all those albums back dame felt some type of way about it he felt like he was betrayed or something like that and jay is like yo this is business right i'm continuing my career they're offering me this incredible deal why would i not take it [Music] and but dame still owned a piece of reasonable doubt and i think jay tried to buy it from him and he didn't want to sell right so now he was trying to put out reasonable doubt as an nft and hoping to make like 30 million dollars off it but jay basically sued him and stopped the sale saying that you don't own the copyright for this yes you own a third and so forth but you can't sell the whole thing right without having to because when i read it i didn't know someone asked you what is an nft a non-fun fungal fungible token it's essentially you can almost think of it as a trading card okay right so let's just say i make a trading card of this video that we're doing right now and i put it out and i put it out to the highest bidder and there's only one version of this in the world and they'll have a little certificate in a little digital certificate saying that they own it and they own it forever right and then if they sell it whatever they could transfer ownership or whatever else okay but you know at the end of the day you can only sell something that you own completely now in this case he didn't own it completely okay and you know i guess he tried to sell his piece back to jay but jaya didn't offer him a lot and whatever so now they're just tied up in court and and it just is what it is um you know the the general public can feel how they feel about it but at the end of the day it's a legal situation and they have to go to the cards and now to me to jay-z and to me i'm gonna say this on on on on on your show i remember all of us used to hang out back at madison square garden and kicking it and yo just give the man what he want for the third and keep it moving damon dash is a good dude you know regardless of what people say jay you got all the money in the world now every what more do you need and i love you brother you know i love you you got all the money in the world let that brother eat and that's the thing that brothers got to start doing to one another right they call us for shows they're like yo can you do me a favor dude this is a discount can you do it this price but when we call each other and let everybody know when we call each other we have to say yo let me put some money in your pocket player i want to make sure that you eat cause i'm feeling you you got a talent you're doing your thing why should i discount my talent for you and your family to have more in your pocket i'm the talent give me what i want let's keep it moving i want people to change their mindset so to speak i want people to say yo let me call you yo i called you because i'm gonna put some money in your pocket how much you wanna play we gotta stop putting that out there in the universe to make sure people understand well uh just the other day trick daddy was on clubhouse and uh he made some comments that a lot of people are discussing right now right he said jay-z ain't never won the greatest rapper alive whoever put him on a level who whoever put him on a level like that new york lost biggie they needed a hero because they wanted to be the mecca of hip-hop so they just handed it over to jay-z hmm so you asking me my opinion what do you think here's my thing about the whole rap game i think lyric lyrically jay-z is cold when you when you have you got him in the car and you feeling you got you man he he putting it down i don't like jay-z as a performer different story see i've seen him from when we was together to blowing up and yeah he gave he what you has has the elegant style of swag right he's gonna come on stage and be smooth he's when you go to jay-z you got to be in your suit and tie your button up and you're sipping on your wine and you're just listening to you can't go there for a true entertainment you got to go there for the vibe he creates a vibe you know because we're seeing some of the greatest performers right i've i saw my tour of mary j blige and mary j blige turned it out i've seen him on tour with dmx and dmx turned it out so jay-z is not that guy you know when you look at jay-z and um jay-z just represented more than rap he represented style he represented the streets he represented um a crew so he represented all the things that young men at that time wanted to be like because he was the streets in a sense when you wore rockefeller jeans you wore the rockefeller jacket here they have the rockefeller vest you know you had to have all this stuff so he influenced a lot so um i know trick daddy very well knows dad too pop but all of us are close um so i always say when a man gives his opinion on somebody and it's just my opinion you have to respect his opinion um we nobody around the world should come down on um trick daddy what you got to say and remember this ladies and gentlemen when someone says their opinion you know you don't like it you say you know what i'm not understanding you but i got to respect your opinion right and trick daddy's no slouch behind the mic let me tell you he was one of the coldest i mean before all these miami rappers that everyone knows about trick daddy was holding down florida tough like songs like nan are our timeless classics and me him did a show i'm a thug oh me him did a show together i was in one building he was on and we were so cool he he'll come see me perform and i'll come saying i hadn't seen him before him for a while so i tiptoe over to his to his audience a matter of fact man i got introduced them on the show and i forgot how good that brother was right and you know you talk about the rapping on the hard knock life tour which you you opened up for yes on lebron's hbo show the shop jay-z was on there and he was talking about dmx yeah and he talked about when they first started the show the tour i mean he said that dmx came on you know before him and dmx hit the stage and he was like screaming and he was barking then he took his shirt off and the women went crazy and then he started crying he did a prayer jay's looking at this going how the hell am i supposed to follow up follow this up i gotta follow up this guy right this guy so jay-z was describing how he had to really sit back and say okay now how am i gonna pull this off for whatever 30 dates he goes well i think i could rap better than him he can't i don't think he could out rap me i mean he's got all the energy and all the the theatrics but i think i'm better than him rapping wise so he said that if you remember that tour he was doing a lot of acapella he would turn off the music and and just rap acapella right and that was how he managed to get through that tour with a monster like dmx opening up for right that whole tour was insane i bet oh my god that whole tour was insane uh you know what and again me sitting here to know i was part of all that unbelievable unbelievable well uh kim kardashian recently did some interviews and uh she said that keeping up with the kardashians wouldn't be as popular without the ray j sex tape oh i agree i agree that but but everything started from the sex tape you know yeah everything started and let's give a shout out to kanye west now you know how i felt about him to me i felt that he couldn't have been happy with that young lady because it takes a certain type of man to date kim kardashian you can't to me you just can't be a regular guy and date that kind a young lady who really did her thing with her life right like if i had to i wouldn't want my daughter to be that way i moved differently but if i had if i saw a woman out there who was exploring life would say [ __ ] either i'm gonna i'm [ __ ] i'm trying to put on because she was like she was a singer it was like she was going for a hit record right it wasn't like she was an actress nope you know like it wasn't like she had she was just really giving her [ __ ] out to everybody and she i don't even think she thought that what was gonna happen happen you know some people are just promiscuous right but again you never know how your break's gonna come that's what's so crazy so she got here being promiscuous you know some people say miss manager [ __ ] the young people say oh tk's hating is that so [ __ ] she can do what she want to do but she was out here giving her [ __ ] to a little bit of everybody and by the time she got married the man she married couldn't accept all these men that she did even though she's a billionaire but i'm glad that kanye picked up the pieces moved on i don't i don't think he'll be bitter again i don't think he'll be doing choirs i don't think that he'll run for president because some women have an effect on the man so bad that they act the way this [ __ ] was acting he was acting like a fool and i hope that the girl in london is [ __ ] him good and making him feel a certain way and he's feeling and like i said you want in this life you want everybody to find the greatest thing in the world and what that is peace of mind if you got peace of mind you got everything and that's what i'm hoping that he has well speaking of the sex tape i interviewed stephen hirsch who is the founder of vivid entertainment okay who bought that tape yes and he told me the whole backstory behind it okay i'm ready so what had happened was now he wouldn't name any names but you could really put the pieces together pretty pretty easily based on our conversation but essentially this was a private home video between ray j and kim ray j's people approached vivid with the tape and i guess there was like some fake signatures for kim or whatever else right okay but of course with vivid being a legitimate you know multi-million dollar established company they went and they reached out to kim and and the family and the mother and so forth and we're like well listen we got this tape but there is you know is this signature legit they said no it's not like well i mean we have it do you want to put it out and over the course of i guess a few months of negotiations they finally came to an agreement wow and they signed off on it so let's talk about the kim kardashian team how talk about the whole story about how you obtained it and what actually happened afterwards well it was brought to us uh by a third party uh felt like the proper paperwork that we needed was in place that came along with it now that ultimately wasn't the case but we went out there and said look we feel comfortable releasing this movie ultimately we were able to have a conversation with kim after much back and forth and lots of legal stuff going on but ultimately she agreed to allow us to put out the tape we paid her several million dollars it was an amazing investment for us and i think it worked out pretty good for her as well and it's just interesting how i mean it was it was a decision that paid off a lot in terms of money but i wonder how many mothers out there would agree to sign a contract you know because that was kim's manager would agree to sign a contract to put a sex tape out on their daughter you know i i think that you would think that most for most mothers there is no price tag for that thank you like because right now i'm sitting here saying to myself would i would i would i do some [ __ ] like that you no disrespect no man i'm not gonna say no disrespect i mean what i'm about to say because i take being a parent very seriously you got to be a [ __ ] up individual right i'm being honest you know i was gonna be like bite my tongue on that but no when it comes to parenting i gotta stick i gotta hold my ground you you are a [ __ ] up person when you agree to something like that i'm just gonna say what i say yeah i i think i think chris kris jenner pimped out her kids yep now you could say whatever you want to say whatever you want to say you can say whatever you want to say she felt what it was like to to live large when her and robert were were married and they were hanging out with oj and all the celebrities and the money was flowing and after robert left her she was broke yeah she was damn near homeless she had a bunch of kids like how many how many kids is it uh four or four kids right she had four kids didn't know what to do and she probably said i don't care what it takes i'm never gonna be broke again i don't care what i have to do i'm throwing all my morals out the window because i don't like being desperate especially after tasting after tasting the good life because it's always worse when you've already tasted it that is so true you know and uh you know listen so she she got with bruce jenner had a few few more kids with him uh you know turned his career around and then you know okay saw the big payday with with her daughters yes uh you know the son and that's sort of part saw i saw the tape i wasn't impressed i'm gonna ray j nah ray j listen listen i'm gonna be on some real [ __ ] that's what i don't know how that thing blew up but it wasn't like ray j put down some monster dick right like that's my [ __ ] you know i'm [ __ ] with her like i ain't you know he ain't lift the [ __ ] up or smack her ass or you know made a squirt or something and had some champlain it was like it looked phony like it was like you know it was no gangsta type [ __ ] and [ __ ] is losing their mind knocking on ray day joy and um calling about can you do me the same way you did her so i'm trying to figure out how that [ __ ] blew up because it was not on my level of [ __ ] on a scale of one to ten that [ __ ] wasn't the two and ray j i love you but i'm quite sure you're better now you was young then but i'm disappointed i'm disappointed well i recently had kevin samuels on my show oh okay i read some of the comments on him i don't really i don't really read comments i wanted to see what people thought but go ahead i'm listening well and i'll get into some of the stuff on kevin yeah in a second but some of the stuff that he said sort of reminded me of some of the stuff that you would say in my interviews so i did a poll on my twitter account wow i said who gives better relationship advice kevin samuels or tk kirkland thousands of people voted kevin i've never seen anything this close before kevin won by two percent wow he got 51 you got 49 damn that's awesome that's awesome i'm i really respect thank you everybody i'm glad they listening there you go i'm glad it's 49 49 because you know kevin's like the hottest thing smoking on relationship advice right now so the fact that you're right right up there with him yes i think i think says a lot i totally agree you know you know what we got to do just think about it we got to get me and him and you and do an interview together on relationships let's do it that is i love it that would be insane i'm down i'm down i'm with it everybody you heard it when we put that out that's going to be insane yes yes well he has some interesting kind of viewpoints when it comes to relationship because really that's his thing and one of the things that he's sort of known for is well number one he pushes this whole concept of a high value man okay a high value man is a man who makes a certain amount of money who makes six digits or more consistently over a three-year period and is also but apart from that he's also has a certain type of position in society he's recognized by his peers he is seen as uh you know like a i'm an employer someone who who builds wealth and you know creates wealth and so forth and this is someone who generally is desired by most women okay right and what happens is that he has women call in who might be 100 pounds overweight might have a few kids uh you know might have a a couple of baby fathers who are not in the picture and so forth yes who feel that they deserve this type of man and he is somewhat harsh yes in telling them that you are not what these type of men are looking for so true now you could you can want what you want right there's nothing stopping you from having a desire to you know to have whatever it is that you want but realistically it's not a realistic expectation you know and i remember there was this one part and he was talking about how uh he told a woman that she's built like a linebacker and when she wants a high value man and i said i said well but here's the thing though everyone has their preferences some men are into bbws and so forth and he said just point blank he said how many of these type of men do you see with this type of woman on their arm you know women people could say if he can't buy you a birkin bag kick him to the curb but if i just happen to say that you are the you that you weigh more than men at your height that's offensive when did we become that world well it's offensive for men who like a certain type of woman some men are into bbws there is a whole market for that really right show me where the high value men after the high value go out the bbws as the norm i mean that's a good point that's the point see we should argue that [ __ ] we're so used to doing this this this pc kabuki dance that is confusing women that's why why do women call into my show because they've been told by so many charlatans so many people telling you can have it all but then they go out into the world they're in life and they're like i'm not getting the outcomes of results that's why i have more women calling in saying thank you not a woman last night breaking the tears saying you saved my marriage it's interesting here's my take on that let's hear it i'm listening to you and and i travel almost every day and i look at different relationships i look at people and i study them and i've even saw a couple of his um interviews my take on is not what you say is how you say it right the thing about a female what men have to understand you have to get into a female psychic right because you can't destroy them they're already feeling [ __ ] up already they are women are truly a unique species on this earth that you can hurt them or you can build them you can make them or you could destroy them what i see that women come on their women who have made bad choices right women who had to pick from their environment meaning if you ain't traveling the world and meeting these kind of men and you in the hood you're gonna meet hood [ __ ] it's just the way it is right so you pick and choose what's around you what we have to do and what we say we got to teach women to make better choices you still can have sex but don't have no baby you still can date but don't fall in love don't let no man move into your home these are the things that we have to teach the women because yes in your heart you want oh i want this great man but ladies if you don't listen to what me and this man vlad is saying you can't teach your children because you've already made the mistake you can't teach your daughters the right thing because they're going to make the same mistake too so you want your daughters to have fun don't mismanage with your [ __ ] i call it get your life together stack your money and that way you can travel this world and pick the kind of men you want to date when you're about 29 30 years old women want to have these babies so fast in life at 21 22 23 and after you had three kids one day you're in a mall one day you had a show and you meet the man of your dreams and he likes you he liked the way you built he likes your style he hears your conversation or the things that you've gone through but he's a smart guy he's calculating what he's about to get himself into oh i like this [ __ ] three kids though she live in this neighborhood she got an okay car she got a lot of these problems but not good why fall in love with her and take on all this debt why you know what i'm telling people see men don't think like this men or meet a woman with three children and issues and bring all this debt all this pain into their life because they i want to be a man but you got life is a strategy when you meet a woman and you say hello and you look at her and she starts telling me what she's into she says telling you what kind of children you have what things that chaos she's going through even if her mother's crazy or dad all this do you want that in your life this is how you evaluate dating do you want doesn't you meet a girl she's walking so now you like her you want to [ __ ] do i have a good time but when you get in the car she won't stop at all betty's house she want to stop at a girlfriend's house to get this stuff or you meet a girl you really like her but she said oh i can go out with you but i got to pay my mom can you can let me can you give me like 75 and you're saying this out your mom should be babysitting for free but then you got [ __ ] like me because i've been there yo give this to your mom give this to your friend to babysit for you because i want to see you that bad all that is wrong no man should deal with that [ __ ] but this is what happens when you don't make good choices and then you gotta live with the hand that you dealt yeah absolutely absolutely you know in the process of our conversation i brought up some of his old interviews where he actually rated various women yeah so for example i think the one that raised a lot of eyebrows was when he gave sweetie he called her an adjustable six meaning that she can go from cute to pretty depending on how much makeup she wears that day right but he wouldn't consider her beautiful or gorgeous you actually rated sweetie an adjustable six yeah mean meaning that she can go from cute to pretty right in that range depending on i guess whenever she decides to leave her house yeah anytime she wants to she can turn the knob yes and see and that's why it's great when we do this interview one day right that we see two different sides of the world see he tears women down i build women up see my thing is if i saw six and she was overweight i said baby you gotta start jogging but you gotta eat right okay you gotta start taking care of yourself you gotta read more you gotta stack your money get some money in the bank so when you out and you meet a gentleman you know you picked and see who's equally yoked to you everybody can't have a lot of money like us you know can't you don't have a lot of money but you can have a nice apartment you can have a decent car or you can move from a [ __ ] up neighborhood to a nice place to live to raise your children oh i tell people every year you want to be better than you was the year before mentally physically financially and what's good for your children this is what you want this is should be your blueprint for the rest of your life because this blueprint you can't lose if you motivate yourself to know [ __ ] i want to have more money i had to bank last year i want to be healthier than i was last year i want to have a better relationship than i had last year or improve the relationship that i have and i hope the man that i'm wit or woman that i'm with will grow with me so we're going to better each other but what we have to do and this is how i feel let's get into the women's minds and teach them because there's been this history of men know what to do for women we know to make them happy we send them flowers we take them shopping we're supposed to treat them a certain way but women have no idea how men think um i don't know maybe every now and then but then now you now you got women out glad that sound like men what up dough what'd it do hey [ __ ] what in my in my uh years you know i'm gonna be 48 in a week yeah oh happy birthday thank you thank you in my decades of you know with the hundreds maybe even thousands of women that i have come in contact in various ways over the years probably yeah maybe over a thousand okay i would say maybe maybe around a thousand uh i have found that the women who ultimately win long term are the ones that get with a man and say if i support this man emotionally sexually psychologically whatever and this is an exceptional man that that they're with and they see the big picture of it all they realize that when that man wins they'll win as well all that's luck you gotta be lucky and and when you date you gotta be i mean not what i see you really have to be lucky you got to be lucky to meet a man like you who want to be married say i don't want to be married well i'm gonna have to do with it you know well married married or not a relationship and the two of you are working towards a common goal right it's not about how much she can get out of you that day it's not about oh i got him to buy me some some burberry sneakers no it's like all right there's a long-term plan in mind this man here so you got to meet people who are in their 40s or older because i think the 30 age group the way they think because my son is in his 30s and my son is very successful and i have taught my son to be a man's man and the women he meets i want a broken bag i wonder he blocks him my son don't play he like like my son is a is a gangster when it comes down to it and i like that he's a gentleman but he knows how to be tough when he meets those kind of women you know so i love that about them but social media has really had an amazing effect on the young women today on how they move through this game of life and i just want the ladies like yeah you can meet people that will buy your bag but i'm telling you you got to get your own [ __ ] because if you don't and you fall on your face it's it hurts it is it's bad ladies go to school get a tray stack your paper because one day you're going right that's why i tell people sometimes that's crazy right one day you're going to see gray on your coochie hair watch this you're going to be shaving one day you're going to see gray on your coochie here you're going to see gray in your roots you're not going to be as fine as you was and you're gonna start this thing called i gotta bow down only the women who are older know what i'm talking about when you're young ladies when you're 28 29 in your 30s what i'm saying right now to you is going over your head because you haven't lived yet but listen to your elders that's what they used to call me people like me back in the day you respect your elders and now they we are oh geez we triple og's you got to listen to your og if you really want to make it in this game called life and mr samuels version is good because it attacks you guys and hopefully see i like the attack at the person who's receiving information is going to motivate them but a lot of women are like that so you have to go another way and teach them games see i'm i like to teach women gang how to win how to survive how to take your situation that you're in and better it for the rest of your life i feel in terms of a ground rule for me in terms of women that i seriously deal with i feel that my goal is if i'm with this person at the point that our relationship ends whether i end it they end it we both end it whatever that this person walks away in a much better position than the point that i left them that's good they have better credit yep they have a career they have they know how to invest their money right uh they they have an idea about how to run a business uh and they were around me and they got to see me doing what i did and that will at least put a target in terms of where to go in life if that's what they want to do of course absolutely so so they actually have a role model of some sort to say okay well i was with this guy and i saw him achieve and i saw him grow year after year so i could do it too because i'm smart and i'm motivated and so forth and i feel that when you have a situation like that when both people part ways and the other person is better off than when you know than when you met them ultimately you're not going to have this sort of bitterness anger lashing out social media beefs exposing all that other times you're a man so you're a man vlad right let's keep it 100. what you just said is a man right what the [ __ ] is out here now these young men killing the the the girlfriend pouring gasoline on the on the daughter stabbing the son shooting kids these [ __ ] you young young young man got this [ __ ] [ __ ] up they killing the the women now the children when he was growing up they always when it was a fight or shootout no women no children was the rule everybody is getting it now and it goes back to having children fellas you got to start going to get your kids bottom line we got to stop letting the baby mamas raising the boys see a lot of you men are afraid of your freedom you don't want to take the kid because you still want to go out party still want to go have a good time but if we can do anything to change what is going on here in the world this chaos of at a normal level that chaos that we have never seen before in our life people just getting shot the killing rappers for no reason nobody's respecting human life anymore that it's gonna have to start from men going to get their child and teaching them karate teaching them discipline teaching them boxing and this is what i think is necessary for the next generation for the next over the next 20 years what men have to do we have to change what the government had plotted against the man years ago and the only way to do it is because we out here [ __ ] at a high level everybody's having sex right everybody having babies but nobody want to raise the babies nobody what we're going to do with the babies you got to take care of the babies i'm in my kids life like to the point that it's draining i feel like a cia agent [Laughter] i swear to god that's that's how i feel but a man told me um before he died and you always told me for years he said tk even though you have a great career your children love you and that is priceless that my kids love me and because i know some parents they they don't get along with their children their children don't speak to them and i don't know how that feels you know [Music] my kids truly love me i love them and that's priceless so i want men to if they can start going to get their children you know two three four five years old and and and and bring them on up well uh just recently the senate voted to unanimously make juneteenth a federal holiday mm-hmm i saw that and i'll be honest and you know i know this is this is probably gonna upset certain people and so forth but i feel that i have to say this on one level i'm thrilled that juneteenth is a holiday and black people in this country who ultimately have gotten the short end of the stick have a holiday to recognize you know their struggle and so forth you know this is the first federal holiday i think since martin luther king day and you know people have been celebrating it for years unofficially and now it's an official federal holiday and i love that but but also i think that people are celebrating being acknowledged for being a human being [Music] you're celebrating the end of slavery like that's something that should have never happened at all right i totally agree you see you see where i'm going with this i sure do i sure do you're celebrating people saying oh okay you're not an animal you're actually a human being now mm-hmm when you're always a human being yes you were never a slave he was never a slave you were never a slave this is just a construct that that a wicked government and society decided to put on you for their own financial gain and really it was just that it was just financial gain yes right yes it was it was thrown into a whole bunch of i don't know justifications to make people feel better about treating people as sub-humans but ultimately these were all humans and you're celebrating everyone you know it's accepting that they're not slaves anymore when they never were slaves no in the first place so so that part almost bothers me a little bit but then again i'm not a black person i'm a white person i'm looking at it from the outside but you know i mean my my interactions with most people in my life are black so you know i have a certain perspective of that but how do you feel about what i just said see and whenever i hear those type of things juneteenth celebration black history month and all that see i always moved a certain way and i just think differently see i i've been a young kid who was always getting money and i never really gave a [ __ ] about them holidays vlad like i call myself living in a bubble or whatever i'm so laser focused in life that i don't even see some of these things that they talking about but i did read up on june ting then i think it came to my attention really for the first time ever when donald trump cause i was watching him like a um a terrorist so to speak when donald trump was going to have something last year two years ago on june 10th and the public got upset that he was having his event on this particular day they showed it was disrespectful i'm tired of the government throwing us a holiday see i'm deeper than a holiday we need more opportunities out here we voted for this man this man biden got into office because of a pastor in north carolina who got his people to get behind this man and it put biden in the forefront of this political race the asians get beat up for one month not disrespecting them they get beaten for one month they get a hate crime three weeks later right blacks have been getting hung shot at all types of things to us and nothing has been done not even to the point that we get repre um what's the um reparations from i don't give [ __ ] was a thousand dollars call it reparation and let people get something to let them know because all the other nationalities in this country who come over here who get money to start businesses who get all these things go on to do very very well and we need i mean i'm 60 right i'm in my 60s i i've heard this talk so much in my lifetime over and over and over again when obama was in the i don't know what's going on even obama's on offer no one came to take care of the black community and let me my definitive black community did the blacks get more opportunity jobs did you put the national guard in the community and say [ __ ] this we tie this [ __ ] we're going to shut this down because if you really don't do it let's do it like if you really go on you really gonna make this [ __ ] pop off let's really make it pop off right so if i'm the president of the united states and i see there's severe men and women dying i'm shutting the [ __ ] down i'm not talking about it i'mma make it happen because i'm tired of it and so all that has happened in my journey is that we complain we complain we complain and we complain and unless we change the law unless we get the right president of the united states the right president that will take care of everybody because people we gotta look at each other right we are doing this to ourselves mankind is doing this to each other from a hitler to hoover to the killings we're all on this planet together right they like aliens are coming from out of another planet and killing us we this is called the human race and since the beginning of time we are destroying each other to the point um um hitler hated jews for it didn't make no sense i was watching um [Music] the movie with brad pitt in it about that and um oh uh in glorious masters oh my god that's a great [ __ ] movie that's a good good film yeah and for what the for what reason right like keep in mind keep in mind hitler hated blacks also yeah no right yeah right yeah and not just hey this is anyone who was not an aryan basically a blonde hair blue eye think about this like your mindset you really a [ __ ] up individual even even blacks who killed blacks even whites who killed baby mamas something's wrong with you yeah if you hate somebody you can leave them if you got a beef with someone you could walk away yep you understand i'm saying we do to see each other and blacks or something else that could not stick with the black people in a sense will kill each other but won't shoot a corrupt cop and won't shoot a klansman well you know after juneteenth passed uh the georgia governor actually blocked it as a paid holiday for state employees yeah i saw that [ __ ] yeah i now that hurt me because i'm like here's a [ __ ] who wanna spoil the thing for for whatever little thing a black person get here you go you want to spoil it and really [ __ ] it up yeah oh yeah yeah i don't know vlad you know what we're going you know what you know what as i said i don't know but i do know we going to do our part you know you know i tell them when i travel this world i'll tell people um what have you contribute to the earth when you was here did you did you cause pain did you create happiness did you invent something that people can enjoy years later in life do you know why you're here right so you know that you're here contribute something to the earth you have a choice you can contribute pain or you contribute love and affection and honesty to better people and not you know it just ain't gotta be blacks did you better people did you did you put somebody in the right direction to become a better person well i'm gonna need a late pass for this number one uh because for the first time ever about a month ago i watched baller blocking which you were in yes you were in i'm actually you know number one props to to birdman and slim i guess who put it together yes uh to to basically throw a movie together when clearly they didn't have a lot of experience doing it before right uh but actually an entertaining movie using all their own people and using the community as a backdrop right uh i think was great i wish there were more movies like baller blocking today yes i wish some more people would just pick up a camera and just create a cool little movie with a with a plot and bring in some other people and throw a few dollars behind it and then put it out uh i liked your rolling you played a cop in the cop who got shot by another white cop right exactly i sure did number one how did you get into that film this is interesting you know here's one of my my crazy stories again um i was at a nelly concert and a gentleman named ron bird shout out to ron burr who was the production manager was there by me touring so much i saw a space that was empty they had no emcee there was no emcee keeping the crowd entertained and keeping them together so i saw ron brown say ron you want somebody to go up he said yo you want to do something i said yeah let me go up and do it so i go up bam bam bam and he says yo baby wants to meet you i run into baby baby just gets um 30 million for a young kid who had just dropped his album and it was the biggest music deal ever at that time 30 million for his catalog because he had a hit song with a young man called back that ass up back that ass up what people don't know about juveniles first album that when a record labor pays you money you pay them back over how many albums etc baby got 30 million universal was paid back less than two months because back that adds up so so many records that it paid the 30 million debt off so everything from that moment on they were in the black they would win it people don't know that story unbelievable story so um they're getting ready to go on tour well we do the movie first we do baller blocking and i'm hanging out with baby i'm staying at the marriott down in new orleans we're hanging out because we're hitting little clubs before we go on tour so we're in new orleans for a whole week um shooting the movie but we're getting ready to do the house of blues we all get up early we all go to breakfast now baby got literally about 800 people he taken shopping this true story and we are going from store to store on the main street in new orleans down there i forgot the main street where all the stores are as we go from there we're on the highway baby stops at a bentley car dealership me and ron is you know looking at each other baby buys about seven bentleys at one time wow me and ron said don't look at this [ __ ] yo you might get well you know you might you think you might get lucky like they're gonna get us a car we we kicking it like oh [ __ ] we didn't get the car but for the moment it was a good feeling because he was a man who didn't respect money i'm serious that man didn't respect money so we're on the set we do the house of blues that night the whole city's in their pack we still wake up the next morning we finish in the movie baller blocking baby comes in my dressing room with a bag full of money he said yo rewarding that's how they talk i said what up water you know how much i owe you for the part i said the whole [ __ ] bag they gave me 10 grand and walked out the door but when i looked at them from this when we was on the set for weeks down there shout out to aj johnson too when we was down on the set and i'm watching this young man he was a young kid you know all of my young kids and how he was moving and they really respected the way i moved because i didn't ride on the bus with them everywhere we went i flew even all the tours we was on i flew and met everybody there i got my own hotel room because like i said earlier in this interview people you want to be an independent contractor you don't want to work for nobody and see and babying them didn't pay me see that that was another great thing not pay me that i didn't get no money by me being an independent contractor i was directly connected with the promoter so i got my money from the promoter i didn't have to they didn't have to pay baby and they paid me i was my own independent entity at the time so i've always been that way so shout out to the cash money millionaires still going strong after 20 years in this game um some of the hottest rappers that you could ever imagine and he's doing well and i salute the brother because i've been with everybody from nwa to like the jay-z's to the even the g-unit i rocked with 50 and um when he came out and we did our thing so um shout out to 50 everybody but the cash money millionaires did they think for real right i mean baby just had an interview recently i think with wallow and he said he still makes about 20 to 30 million a year just off the masters that he owns wow because his original deal with universal he got the 30 million but he got to keep his masters awesome unheard of yeah unheard of universal just took like a 15 distribution fee and he got to keep everything else and i mean look since that time yeah of course you had juvenile and you had bg yeah you had manny fresh and of course little wayne yeah but then when everyone left he became the biggest rapper on the label himself for a while yes and then and then of course there was drake and nicki minaj yeah and tiger and you know like like that whole energy is all kind of based off him and his vision yes and awesome everyone who hates on birdman man you you're just you're mad at yourself right now yeah you made yourself because it's like you're not accomplishing it he did man i mean i'm going over his house they had hummers this one hummers was big back in the day there was so many hummers in the driveway that you you could tell they didn't drive they didn't drive them they the air hair went out the tires they were just because they had been sitting in salon the air was gone yeah shout out to them for over 20 years god bless them all god bless them all and shout out you also have to understand you also have to understand and this is this is something that that i've had to learn over time is that when you see a lot of these companies and you see these bentleys and these private jets and everything else like that the way the system is designed the the the tax system is designed is that if you don't go and spend money on those types of things right as you know legitimate business expenses like a private jet is a legitimate business expense that ultimately you'll have to just give half of it to the government anyways yep you got it so by buying that yeah you could write it off as a business expense and then write off the depreciation for i think seven years yes and you essentially just get your money back yes you don't get it back completely but right you get to and that's good that you're saying that because people don't know when they see people spending money like that they think they're being foolish you know but ladies and gentlemen in that tax bracket if you don't spend they take it they take it they take it they take they take it who takes it the government the government takes it yes with a smile with a smile you better pay him every penny than their owner that's right lock you up like wesley yep they sure will because that and that was a crazy move he did to fight the government like yeah and you're a black man and you want to fight the government about taxes crazy move to me well chris rock did an interview not too long ago where he thinks that cancer culture is making everything safe and boring he said what happens that everyone gets safe and when everyone gets safe and nobody tries anything things get boring um do you agree i think you gotta do what's best for you i play a safe i come chris ain't come up shooting and being a gang banger and doing crime right and it depends on how somebody will interpret that right it depends on oh you got to play safe whatever people who party younger people who did crazy things younger as we get older you play it safe and again he's entitled to his opinion his what he said was based on his journey and what his experiences are in his life my rebuttal to that is based on my experiences and what i've gone through my life i think safe is good because a lot of people put themselves in such crazy situations that you you can't get your ass out sometimes you put yourself in such a deep hole you cannot get your ass out and i'd rather for the hole to be two feet deep than six feet deep right i mean because uh cat williams was asked about this uh recently as well and he said some of these things are for the benefit of everything nobody likes the speed limit but it's necessary nobody likes the shoulder of the road but it's there for a reason my point is people weren't all that extremely funny back when they could say whatever they wanted to say at the end of the day there's no canceled culture cancellation doesn't have its own culture uh and yeah you know i mean it's true uh people weren't it's not like comedians were way funnier way back in the day than they are now you've got comedians that are just as good yes working within within the the confines of it um you know was you know things that are for example homophobic that were said back in the day did we lose something by not saying that these days no i don't know no no i don't think so i don't think so and again it's not what you say is how you say it right right see if you bash in them then you have a problem i always try to find what is the solution how can i still get my point across and still be funny on that particular topic that's just me yeah he said if these are the confines that keep you from doing the craft god put you to then it probably ain't for you absolutely there you go and like i tell people comedy is mine you know me i always tell you i'm a businessman i'm a businessman comedy is my side hustle like i said i don't go through the world telling people what i've done i mean i talk about what i've accomplished in the past with the groups and everything but i'm a businessman and maybe one day i'll share with the world what i'm into and what i've done and all that and maybe i won't but as of right now people know me as a comedian i love these opportunities and platforms to speak and drop my eyes they call them the gems that's what the young kids call me t.k you be dropping gems on vlad you know some people call me the ump some people call me the um the leg spreader you know what i'm saying because i'm so smooth that women want to give me some ass i get all that but i accept it all and i love it uh i was listening to one of your comedy specials on the way here ah you know i like to brush up every so often yes sir uh on some tk kirkland and um one of the things you you brought up is how certain people have problems with black men dating white women well first of all let me ask you a question because i actually posted you know we have a membership community on vladtv youtube and i actually put up hey you know what should i ask uh tk kirkland and someone asked did tk ever date white women himself yeah i have i've i've dated every kind of female i'm i'm a i'm a player i date them all chinese white um german um asian i just i just that's how i live my life like i just believe that's the way i think you're on this earth to i'm gonna explore a lot of things except um sucking dick or getting a dick in my ass other than that um you know because i want you to enjoy life right but there's some things i ain't doing you know so yeah you know some people say they'll try anything not me i'm not trying anything but i love a good-looking woman i like a nice fat ass i like titties i like a woman's skin i like the way they smell i like taking women out to eat i like buying women flowers if i'm feeling you i like to i like to take you shopping i like to take on trips and this is to me what men are supposed to do this is what turns me on i this is what i love about a woman and yes i would date well i get i'm not getting married anyway so i'm not gonna marry a white woman but i would date a white woman why do you think that so many people have problems and it almost seems to be centered around black white relations more so than other races you see uh you see a white dude with an asian girl you don't really bad enough no you don't give a [ __ ] uh you know spanish girl the white guy nobody nobody really cares you see a a black woman with a white man people have opinions about it yeah they do i don't you know what i never black a black man with a white woman once again it becomes a polarizing type of thing what is it about those two types of people you think again it goes back to the slavery times and how could you do your people like that knowing what quote unquote the white man did to you and i think we should never forget about slavery and those things that happened to us but like i tell people we have to work hard understand like nipsey said this is a marathon right and this is the leg of your race let me make sure everyone's saying your life is the leg of your race yeah you have to run this [ __ ] like your life depends on it to put your children in a better position in life so that when you pass them the baton now when you're passing the time like we said earlier in this conversation you have to have your house in order you got to know about guardianship you gotta have you know about eins you gotta know about everything right that you passing in that baton when you give it to them that they are ready to take off now having a child ladies and gentlemen is very watch the cleverness i'm about to share with you see from day one when you have a child in your mind from this moment on you supposed to put a hundred two hundred dollars away if you can't do that don't have no children because when your child graduates at 21 from college or 18 from high school and they got a job you as the parent are supposed to give that child a check so they didn't get an apartment or car when that child is going through the journey you are supposed to have good credit that you take your child put them on your american express so that when they turn the time to get a car and get an apartment they have what we call established credit you don't send a child out at 18 years old with nothing to get a job and i wish you the best if that was a business plan every professional will say ain't nobody going even though we've done it but not in today's world it was a survey that came out yesterday that more men are staying home ever before between 25 and 34. and they're not even in the workplace so they've gotten so comfortable that they're just smoking and staying in the house yeah pathetic pathetic pathetic at 18 i was out i never i was gone out out i didn't want to be home i didn't want to live with my parents anymore like that's some low expectation as [ __ ] to to be 25 30 whatever and to still be sitting at home this is the mama's making it i'm against the same room right i'm against the army but if you got to get out the house and go to the navy the army or something to see the world is better than being on the street it's better than smoking weeds better than doing opioids it's better than putting heroin in your arm it's better than some of the drugs you selling drugs out here today it's boring you're dumb they they got so many laws to throw your ass under the damn prison system that you'll be stuck in there forever and what's crazy about doing drugs ladies and gentlemen you rather go work two dollars make two dollars a day in prison and not go get you an education in high school or college like that's that's ass backwards thinking just recently cat williams and cedric the entertainer were kind of going back and forth over joke stealing allegations okay you heard about this nope i haven't uh uh well there was a back and forth you know the details of the details but in reality do comedians generally steal jokes from one another here's the thing and and i've watched all of them i've seen said coming to business and cat kind of built i think korean steel people [ __ ] this is what i say unless it's a classic classic joke like i do who raises you i got so many things now if you still who raise your people gonna know that's your [ __ ] right but that's some petty [ __ ] to a [ __ ] like me like i don't even allow my mind to call someone to go i heard you stole my [ __ ] because you know i'm so i believe in me so much and i've been doing this over 35 years consistently i know for a fact i'm coming up with some more new [ __ ] i'm not going to argue with you because see there's a thing that i've been trying to teach people from the beginning of time and see i got a catalog let me explain to you what that means ladies and gentlemen i got a catalog all my [ __ ] that's on pandora all my [ __ ] just played anywhere around this [ __ ] world i get a check for my [ __ ] that come in the mail every quarter so if you taking whatever on paper i'm getting a check for something that's mine so if more comics will go get catalogs and stop complaining and you getting a check from your work can't nobody say you stole my [ __ ] you wouldn't even worry about it because you're getting paid for your material i wrestled my case to me it's petty i wouldn't we got multi-millionaires arguing about joke stealing see that's what i'm saying my mind is not even there like this [ __ ] you're right it is it is a bit crazy if you think about petty [ __ ] like it's pretty it's like uh i mean for example you know i brought adam 22 from no jumper who you've interviewed with yes on my show he used to tell me that he you know he watched vlad tv and got inspired to do something similar i interviewed sean cotton of lone say cheese same story he was working at best buy watching vlad tv interviews on his phone you know during his lunch break and he got inspired to pick up a camera and start interviewing rappers and now both these guys have successful careers i brought them on my show thank you to you know because i because i recognize the talent and i recognize the hustle and you know whether they said they were influenced by me or not it didn't matter i mean when they said it i was flattered right i didn't say i'll this [ __ ] stealing my [ __ ] i'm the first person on youtube to interview rappers and do it from behind the camera i don't give a [ __ ] right i don't give a [ __ ] i have a catalogue like you said i have a catalogue my catalog in hip-hop is unfuck-witable let me tell you you have you so you understand what i'm saying vlad i understand what you're saying if you want to interview the same person that i interviewed go right ahead in fact i'll even give you that person's contact thank you you know what i mean and then maybe one day i'll ask you for a contact everyone i [ __ ] with like i've always said if you're in my space you will do better being friends with me than beefing with me yep because i know a lot of [ __ ] that you don't know i could i could show you how to make more money i could show you how to take what you have and expand it absolutely and you know do things where you can actually maximize what you're doing right you're going to beef with me over over an interview or what someone said or whatever when we're in the same space that's stupid you're right cat williams and cedric are both rich as [ __ ] which is fun have huge huge fan bases you know do what they love for a living and they're they're arguing over who stole a damn joke right it's petty it's silly it's petty it's silly and it's a cat you know i love you to say you know i love you but grow the [ __ ] up and i said it we just lost paul mooney not too long ago yeah how well did you guys know each other if at all i didn't know him well well i knew him through my situations with the eddie murphy stuff when i was back in the day that's how we all met but um paul mooney's gave me some great advice one day in front of the comedy store because you know when you're young you're asking for advice and all that and paul mooney said to me there's no substitute for experience he said this to me about 1987 and i'd applied that and i teach other comics that because who asked questions i said yo you can't rush 10 years you can't rush 20 years you've got to go through this [ __ ] every day and understand it and i'll tell anybody whether you are a mechanic whether you paint houses whether you do power washing driveways right if you do something long enough and you build your client clientele and you understand business and perseverance and building relationships you're going to be successful in anything you do you're gonna be good at what you do i'm telling you don't think because you did it for a week or two months or three months or the two years that you don't have it some things just take a long time you know you said something to me that also motivated me vlad when you said most millionaires start in their 60s that's how it was before social media and hip-hop back when our parents parents was coming up you worked hard and you may not have lived long enough but you got rich in your late 50s late 60s you respected money because you worked hard for it you [Music] appreciated life you enjoyed things a lot more you wasn't disrespectful and you had character you know whatever the old days that how the people were successful how they carried themselves a certain way with the ascot and the drinks or you know just it was just elegant because you knew you worked hard for it now kids are multi-millionaires at 22 24 25 basketball players are richer than ever than ever before and my dream for all of them is that you still have it at in your 60s in your 70s that you don't have a story and say what i used to have i don't want people to say what i used to have well just to play devil's advocate because it's true most people it takes decades to really build their career and learn their craft and everything else like that how do you explain someone like eddie murphy who hit the ground running did a couple of stand-ups and then got on saturday night live and became the star of saturday night live and then started doing hit movies and just never stopped right all together he didn't really have to work for his position like most other people did true that's now he is sort of a yeah that's just life you know some people get it like some people have this thing and it happens you know you you you look at yourself say oh i might be better than my [ __ ] how could he get that break right yeah that's just how it is sometimes people just yeah i mean you can't really make a kevin durant no he was just born looking like that exactly obscenely tall giant arms humongous legs naturally slim and and lean and is able to do certain things you know like a michael phelps you can't make a michael phelps yes right it doesn't i can never be michael phelps i don't care if i swim every day from the age of two to now i will never be i don't have these giant arms and these huge hands that help me paddle through water and win 20 20 gold medals or whatever else you're right some people are just born into it and you know if they're motivated and they have that hustle that'll carry them through it now if they're just if they get lazy and feel like they're the [ __ ] early on then yeah they'll fl they'll flutter out doesn't matter it's natural so many things right it's discipline how you was raised is who your friends are um [Music] i used to do this bit about people need to be told what to do see i believe in a little dictatorship but let me prove myself right watch this see i believe people need to be told what to do and i tell people before they get upset because you ain't gonna tell me what to do but let me prove my point on why my examples the williams sisters was told what to do since they was five and became the greatest tennis players in the world floyd mayweather was told what to do since he was a kid and became the greatest boxer of our time tiger woods was told what to do since he was a kid and became one of the greatest golfers in the world michael jackson was told what to do and became the greatest entertainer of all time i rest my case if those ain't great examples to show what a parent or someone uh authority and that could see talent can share with somebody to motivate you we all need see in america we have this thing we have too much free time and everybody can't work with free time people have to have a fire under their ass to keep motivating them to achieve because once you slack down for a second that's it you got to have drive you got to have you got to be creative thinker you know if you and you got to know who you are don't get married if you know you ain't [ __ ] don't get married you know you ain't got a lot of money don't put yourself in a relationship if you're a jealous [ __ ] if you jealous and violent don't date someone that that will bring you out that bring that pain out of you to hurt someone you don't do none of these things and you will be fine but you got to know who you are don't be a liar so many people lie about who they are what you're not it doesn't matter just be true to yourself i swear to god if you're just true to yourself and just don't get [ __ ] work at mcdonald's stack your money work hard stay away from the [ __ ] and i mean stay away from the [ __ ] because people will you will meet people and think that person is your friend and the way they think and the way they move will destroy your ass very true very very true last question before i let you go yes sir in one of your comedy specials you compared relationships to being on different types of sports teams can you break that down please well let me tell you how i came up with that joke this is why i wanted cedric to entertain her and kat williams stop beefing see because to any comic i got a test for you if you think you really are kind if you can look at a doorknob and make it funny you know you have reached the level of comedic talent it's like moving kung fu remember the beginner kung fu the man will have that marvel in his hand and the kid couldn't take it so he sent him into the world to learn life and when he came back he was able to take the ball so one day i was watching football football game and i said tk can you make a joke out of that and i don't write like how they talk about the jay-z's don't write jokes i don't write jokes down i might write a topic and then naturally let my thought process take me through to give an opinion and i know somewhere in there i gotta make it funny and i've been gifted so i came up with the analogy of ladies how does this joke go i'll say if you're the quarterback of your team that means you running [ __ ] hands [ __ ] down and sometimes when you meet a [ __ ] you're gonna go for short yardage that means you're taking your time to get the loot and the [ __ ] [ __ ] then you got some [ __ ] to go for the bomb on the first [ __ ] play they going for the loot and the [ __ ] all in the same [ __ ] day then you got some [ __ ] like to play baseball they start striking [ __ ] out when they get the bases loaded that means they use and abuse your [ __ ] ass me myself i like to play basketball because if a [ __ ] caused me stress i'll replace your [ __ ] ass that's why i got [ __ ] in the game [ __ ] on the bench when one [ __ ] fouls out i'll replace your [ __ ] ass and if i go out and i meet somebody better than you i'm gonna draft the [ __ ] ass it ain't my fault she doing better than you i'm quite sure you're about the same age that means you had about the same amount of time to get your life together the same way she has a life together and if i buy you a car and you come to the club that night in the car that i bought you you have to give up the car don't be mad it's a company's car everybody gets to use it one of the coldest lines i ever wrote in stand-up comedy i wrote that bit in time enough to put it on these kids album that came out of oakland california and people don't notice we was in the studio and i said yo [ __ ] i got five on it they wrote a song with the loonies called i got five on it i was able to put my joke on the album with the loonies so if you look at the loonies album you go here right now you'll hear this bit on the loonies and it was so big in the prison system because that's when people was playing the music all back in the day in the 90s that people was hitting me when they came home out of jail talking about everybody and they mama listen they like the album but they like that [ __ ] i got [ __ ] in the gang [ __ ] on the bench that's how they call that i go way back to the loonies sir uh yeah and i've interviewed yuck mouth yeah from the loonies to the [ __ ] k right i didn't even realize that because i told him flat out that i got five on it is the biggest hip-hop record to ever come out of the bay absolutely would you say that this is the biggest bay area song ever hip-hop song ever [ __ ] no you got you got hammer doing all that diamond [ __ ] selling 50 billion well well now that's the biggest weed song i can say that i think it's the biggest weed song i mean hammerhead can't touch this i mean you can't you can't touch this was can't touch these things that was a huge that was a huge one huge but people don't play can't touch this anymore but you're right you're right absolutely i got five on it shout out to hammer it set out to happen shout out to hammer you know i [ __ ] with you i [ __ ] with you hammer you know this but 2019 i got five on it is a more relevant bay area song than any other bay area song including mchammer including souls of mischief including uh you know all the two short anthems and stuff like that i think i got five on it is probably the biggest one you know other you know maybe i can't you know can't touch this may have sold more right right you talk about the bay anthem the bay hip-hop and yes you cannot a song that you could play worldwide as a dj i've spun that song in japan bahrain europe you know australia that song right there i got five on it awesome so you so you had the idea to say i got five on it yes we was in the studio and i said you came up you came up with that i got no i'll go take you deeper amg when i was easying them and we was kicking it i was messing with this young kid out of cleveland amg is from cleveland this is when i'm hustling the street i'm on the phone my flip i said yo [ __ ] better have my money oh man get a that that became a hit song when you get a chance interview amg that's my man to death interview amg interview yuck mouth again and another story that and i'm going to say this because we thought about the bay area one of the tours i wish i would have got on years ago there was a club called paradise 24. shout out to um the gentleman that used to run that club i got their names off of hand i feel bad right now that i can't remember them but it was a young man that used to come every thursday night he'd be dancing in the dance floor with these eye dreamer genie pants he flipping he dancing this [ __ ] goes to be one of the biggest rappers for a minute with the big glasses called you can't touch this so me and this brother his brother was managing him at that time so i was about to go on that tour but i out priced myself because i was going to be emcee's hammer opening that but because i wanted so much money i didn't get that particular tour but i wind up meeting the loonies and got on their album so shout out to emcee hammer shout out to yuck mouth shout out to universal who signed me to the loonies album it was just off off the chain crazy uh every time we sit down i hear another piece of hip-hop history that you're somehow tied into tied into yep so tk kirkland man always a pleasure i see you're doing well you look healthy thank you sir you know thank you congrats on everything that you're about to do still because absolutely you have a long career ahead of you yes sir yeah i'm just getting started just getting started until next time until next time peace may your god bless and may your pain be champagne yes sir

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Length: 118min 39sec (7119 seconds)

Published: Sun Jul 18 2021