Titan Hulk: The Most Powerful Hulk Ever: Hulk Vol 1 Smashtronaut Conclusion | Comics Explained

what's going on guys this is rob and we are back with donnie kate smashernaut with the finale and we finally get the titan hulk the most powerful version of the hulk that we've ever seen now for those of you guys who want to get caught up make sure you check the link in the description or you can click on the card here in the video which will take you to the hulk playlist that will get you caught up on all this stuff but the long and short of it is that the incredible hulk is basically here in an alternate reality and is facing off against these altered versions of the hulk basically um these accidentally created versions but the thing about this is that remember bruce banner was the one controlling the body of the hulk and that the incredible hulk persona is in the engine room basically serving as a source of power because of its anger and that somehow an alternate personality which seems to be brian banner although donnie kate's hasn't necessarily confirmed it has now seized control so it's like if the incredible hulk body was being controlled by an evil personality is basically what it is now the way in which uh bruce banner basically amped up the incredible hulk or brought him down in terms of like how much power he would need to face off against a particular threat was basically forcing the incredible hulk personality to fight different levels of villains that are out there so at the baseline level is like the incredible hulk just walking along right and maybe fighting fighting some guy or you know fighting the avengers or something like that in the real world and so in the engine room it would be these baseline villains really like nobody of any real significance what we're seeing here is what happens when that's amped up all the way to 10 when basically it's the most amount of power that could be taken out of the incredible hulk right like literally pushing him to his to his highest level now donnie kate's doesn't necessarily confirm this but what he says here or at least what this indicates is if this is the most amount of strength the incredible hulk can possibly offer basically pushing him to the limit then it's way beyond anything we've ever seen and the highest amount of power that we'd seen from the incredible hulk up to this point was heart of the monster when he was so strong he was actually breaking the dark dimension the the dimension of dormammu which at the time was ruled by his sister umar who literally showed up in the maine marvel universe asking doctor strange for help because the incredible hulk just couldn't be stopped i mean it was crazy how powerful he was still one of the best stories ever again that's in the playlist as well if you guys want to get caught up on that but the thing about this is that with this personality running the show it's really just kind of offering this amazing meta commentary coming in the form of betty ross albeit seemingly actually being somebody else what we're told here is that it says everyone always says the same thing that the hulk is bruce's identity right his alter ego the embodiment of a scared little boy overwhelmed with impotent rage because of the abuse he endured when he was a little kid blah blah blah blah yadda yadda right she just kind of shuffles it off and that's true that's one of the best things about this is donnie kade's kind of offering this meta commentary now for those of you guys who don't know what this means as we're going through this i'll kind of give you guys a little bit of a little bit of a background here although you do get an amazing moment where you basically have like when it's amped up to level 10 which according to bruce banner is basically theoretical he doesn't even really know what would happen if that were the case that basically it's the hulk versus the entire marvel universe which in which includes the living tribunal thanos and a version of galactus who is the hulk now there's a reason behind that and i'll explain that here in a second because unless you're familiar with galactus you wouldn't know why galactus looks like the incredible hulk and even this personality doesn't know which is uh which is a really really cool concept so the thing about this is that when it comes to the incredible hulk mythos most people out here whenever they go and they buy an incredible whole comic book and they read an incredible whole comic book what they want to see is the incredible hulk just smashing that's what they want to see [Laughter] they want to see the incredible hulk fighting really powerful people and beating them up and just tearing things up because that's what the hulk is known for now people who want a more like character-centric run that was the old bill mantlow and peter david stuff greg pack focused on that to a degree but it was more expanding the incredible hulk mythos and then focusing on like the character of the hulk insofar as it related to like hirokala and scar the sons he didn't know he had which were really really cool and there were a few other things that went in there but in terms of like a character deconstruction of the hulk what's being referenced here in terms of the fact that like the incredible whole personality is the physical manifestation of just all the rage that bruce banner experienced at the hands of his father's abuse that's all bill mantlow and peter david it was initially started by bill mantlo back in the day but he took off before he could finish and then peter david continued it on and that's why one a lot of people say the two go hand in hand that when it comes to that era of the incredible hulk is bill manlow and peter david together and two a lot of people say that peter david's run of the incredible hulk is one of the most important runs it's not the most interesting run especially when you compare it to something like greg pack which had a lot more action and a lot more character development but in terms of everything greg pack did that was built on the shoulders of peter david so peter david's run it's probably one of the most significant runs but for no other reason than the fact that it just sort of changed the hulk from like the old stanley jack kirby days where he's just like you know a monster running around with the mind of a child and like beating things up and like fighting general thunderbolt ross and his army and so on and so forth especially if you look at the roy thomas era as well and it changed him into like there's actually more to the incredible hulk than we initially thought now as far as this whole scenario goes when it comes to like why uh galactus looks like the incredible hulk i mean technically it is the incredible hulk versus galactus the living tribunal and the phoenix force it is here in the engine room but the reason why is something that was established in a story called the trial of reed richards and we talked about this before but basically that set up the idea that galactus does not actually have a physical form anymore he did back when he was gallon before his universe before the multiverse was destroyed and then he re-emerged after merging with that universe's version of eternity essentially when he was reborn into the new universe as galactus uh he had a human form back when he was initially just what you would call a human or a sentient being but when he was reborn as galactus he's pure energy and so if you saw him as he really is it would just be a swirling mass of energy inside of a giant purple suit and there's one point where odin like headbutts galactus and shatters his helmet which i'm pretty sure we did a video on that and that in turn you actually see galactus in what looks like his human form but the reality here is it's how an asgardian would see him because in the trial of reed richards what they set up and what they stated is that galactus is a mirror for whatever race or whatever being sees him so if you are a scroll and you see galactus he will look like a scroll if you are a cree he'll look like a kree if you're a human he'll look human and so if you're an asgardian he'll probably look like an asgardian which is why in this instance the incredible hulk sees galactus and he sees an incredible hulk so so the thing about this and what's really cool is the hulk literally amps up and starts attacking everything right starts attacking all of them now the funny thing about this is during this whole this whole situation the entire monologue offered by this betty brandt we can call her betty brandt right this betty brand-esque person which is most likely brian banner that literally it says over the years there have been so many hulks gray ones red ones blue ones wolverine ones which is actually called weapon h and he was not that interesting uh she says it seems to me that well everyone gets to have a hulk these days bruce has a hulk rick jones had a hulk general thunderbolt ross had a hulk jennifer walters even had a hulk and she said hell even god has a hulk which is cool to see donny cates referencing the al yuing run where we basically learned that the the one below all is what happens when god hulks out and so she's like it's really unfair isn't it like why can't the hulk have a hulk now this and this gives us two things one is a retcon that everyone's glide happened and two is a new version of the hulk and so what we end up getting like as this fight goes on technically the betty ross persona is in the mind of the incredible hulk in the real world the incredible hulk is fighting in this alternate reality against like all these different just grotesque and mutilated versions of the hulk remember in this alternate universe there was an effort to basically utilize gamma energy as a source of renewable energy things went wrong and instead of becoming a renewable energy source it ended up mutating a whole host of the world's population into these different versions of the hulk and that's what the incredible hulk's fighting now in the real world so that's why i say it's something to kind of keep in mind donnie kate's does it a little finicky right he does a little a little weird but essentially anytime you see somebody that looks like they're in a cockpit they're in the mind of the incredible hulk when you see the version of the incredible hulk that looks like a robot kind of that's basically him in the real world so just something to keep in mind here the thing about this is that as this fight goes on because the hulk is being so readily overpowered and quite literally being slapped around what it ends up doing is the incredible hulk himself hulks out now this is something marvel had done before and it was ass so in the story of axis basically the incredible hulk hulked out into basically claw which was the incredible hulk spelled backwards it was a terrible idea uh ridiculously dumb and so what we got instead of that was this like donnie cage just being like this is what happens when the hulk hulks out uh he ends up becoming the titan hulk which is nuts because he literally looks part machine like it's just ridiculously op which is absolutely amazing i love this i mean dude the guy's just spewing energy everywhere but this is why i say this is what it looks like this is seemingly the most powerful version of the incredible hulk that we've ever seen now there there are huge differences between this version of the hulk and like heart of the monster in looking at these two you kind of have to come from a feats perspective and in terms of like what each one is capable of we saw what the heart of the monster hulk was able to do i mean again shattering and like breaking apart the dimension of one of the most powerful magic wielders in existence which depending on who's writing the story dwarfs the power of doctor strange that is crazy like literally them having to take off on their dimension and ask doctor strange for help to deal with that version of the incredible hull so we're not really seeing those same levels of feats now i would be curious to see what happens if the titan hulk ends up in the dark dimension again and how that unfolds it would be pretty wild and it would be pretty cool but this is what happens when the incredible hulk's just strength rage anger all that kind of stuff and really fear take hold and is pushed to the absolute limit we just get this massively grotesque huge thing right and literally what what they're saying is they're like i've never seen anything like this before it's like 30 feet tall like this thing is enormous right i mean he's just huge like it's just it's it's amazing [Laughter] i absolutely love this so again here in the real world in this alternate reality you have general thunderbolt ross and you have this alternate reality version of bruce banner and this alternate version of bruce was in a lot of ways kind of subservient to general thunderbolt ross but only in so far as this alternate reality version of bruce was basically a coward wrecked by guilt and fear and so on and so forth and so the reality here is thunderbolt ross basically ends up getting on getting on the radio and calling in like a gamma bomb detonation now the way this works seemingly what would happen here is somehow gamma radiation has been altered by general thunderbolt ross to where it's more akin to like a nuclear explosion right enough that it would just eradicate everything here and in truth usually when it comes to like a nuclear bomb or something like that it's a combination of heat and force and radiation right i mean if you're at ground zero when a nuclear warhead goes off or a nuclear bomb detonates which technically it doesn't detonate on the ground it detonates a little into a little above ground ah just to maximize the area of destruction i mean you would be incinerated by the heat immediately and assuming you weren't incinerated by the heat if you're close enough to the blast i mean you'd probably be knocked into a building and just just killed that way right your skull would be crushed by the impact but assuming that doesn't happen the radiation sickness would probably kill you as well right i mean there's a lot of ways to die as a result of a nuclear bomb going off but like that really seems to be what it is here right it would just be like like literally just heat and pressure it's basically what general thunderbolt ross is banking on whether or not it would work we don't know i mean there are literally been instances where like the incredible hulk who's just kind of angry has been able to withstand the power of a nuclear bomb even maestro right like literally maestro hulk absorbed the radiation that came from nuclear bombs so we've seen different variations of the hulk over the years who could easily withstand a nuclear explosion how a gamma a weaponized gamma explosion would impact the hulk i don't entirely know i mean literally the hulk is living gamma radiation my assumption would be that he would just absorb it but the reality here and the point that this alternate version of bruce banner brings up is that thunderbolt ross can't do that like it's a terrible thing to do because if he did thousands of people would die because while we don't see them because they're not the main focus here they're there's basically a populated area right it's not overly populated and they kind of seem to be off out there and a little bit of a distance but the the explosion radius would be high enough it would be wide enough that it would kill so many innocent people and that in turn thunderbolt ross just kind of like overpowering or really just sort of directing bruce banner is like no like i don't care in the end like we'll both end up killing thousands of people he says because remember you're the reason why these different versions of the hulk exist in the first place and you're the one that brought this alternate hulk here so really this is all your fault now the reality here is his thunderbolt ross to a degree trying to assuage his guilty conscience if he even has one and just trying to bring bruce banner down with him but where this version of bruce is kind of a depiction of what would happen if bruce banner just never grew any balls he never became the incredible hulk and was never like an enemy of thunderbolt ross and so far as he was able to overpower him likely humiliate him a few times that the only thing he really can do is muster up what courage he has and he in turn attacks thunderbolt ross and is like no i'm not going to let you kill thousands of people now while you know within the context of this particular story it doesn't seem significant or at least this particular video over the course of the videos that we've covered it's a huge moment because this alternate reality version of bruce was constantly racked by guilt and constantly felt like he was making terrible mistakes and even then he didn't realize that where he was basically sending all these different versions of the hulk that they caught across their world into the ether right into some into some portal somewhere with no clue where they went to that what was really going on is that he was sending the ones out there that general thunderbolt ross didn't want that what thunderbolt ross was doing was going around and grabbing those different versions of the hulk that he could use that were that he thought were weaponized so in reality he was at least by his own imagination and kind of using his own mind feeding into his own guilt he was the reason why all these different abominaze versions of the hulk were continuing to live these terrible existences under the servitude of general thunderbolt ross because he didn't know but had he not done what he done in creating the gamma detonation trying to create some kind of renewable energy they never would have been left to that fate in the first place so the screwed up world in which bruce banner lives here he largely takes as being his fault him attacking thunderbolt ross overpowering him pointing that gun at him and saying no like you're not going to kill anybody anymore this is seemingly him overcoming that guilt and accepting that not everything bad that's going on now is his fault right that like there are some things out there that are just the results of the fact that people are dicks right like gender general thunderball ross is just a terrible person who is doing terrible things and despite what thunderbolt ross said it was not the fault of bruce spanish now the other part of this is that in the mindscape of the incredible hulk bruce banner kind of claws his way back into to the incredible hulk's mind more or less where he was just kind of out there basically it was a it was an in-comic representation of the fact that like the bruce banner persona was forced to take a back seat so ultimately of course with him coming back in we do get this version of betty ross's personality which seemingly kind of alters and kind of changes and takes on this different form again we don't know exactly what this is but i would go as far as to say if the titan hulk is what happens when the hulk hooks out that this is the mental representation of what the titan hulk looks like we don't know that for sure we're not 100 certain but in the end there's this kind of discussion where literally the personality is like you have no power here banner right like you are weak you are pathetic you cannot take control you cannot wrestle control of the body away from me and the response of a banner is i know but he has the power to do it and in doing so flips the switch like literally hits the emergency switch and allows the incredible hulk persona to come in now here's the thing it's amazing the way this is drawn right like literally the door is just half open and like the incredible hulk persona is just there and it's like the head of galactus is behind him and he looks pissed and he comes smashing in here so what you're seeing here right now is basically a battle of personalities right it's the incredible hulk personality versus the bruce banner personality versus whatever this new alternate personality is which is seemingly the personality of the titan hulk i would go as far as to say that was the case but the way this is drawn can get really really hairy and a little bit confusing and so in essence what happens here is that in the mind of the incredible hulk right where you basically have the bruce banner personality the titan hulk personality and the incredible hulk personality the incredible hulk personality is able to beat back the titan hulk personality in the real world the titan hulk itself is literally just unbridled energy that it just can't control and so because it has all this energy and because it doesn't know how to control all this energy like this is seemingly just a mindless thing it literally just roars we never really hear it speak or anything like that that in the end all this energy just kind of explodes in a massive explosion right it just goes off right it literally just blows up and so what you have here at least momentarily is essentially a reunification of personalities the titan hulk personality has been beat back to wherever it came from we don't really know where it came from but presumably it just resides down there in the mindscape somewhere and that as a result of the destruction of the quote unquote real world titan hulk uh now it's basically just the incredible hulk back in its normal form and so at this point banner basically runs back into the cockpit right the mind of the incredible hulk and in doing so resizes control and as that goes on of course this gamma bomb is falling and it is gonna it's gonna cost so much life and so what ends up happening is there's a conversation between alternate reality banner and the incredible hulk band right banner one banner two banner three but you end up having like this this conversation between these where alternate reality banner is like look this gamma bombs falling you have to do something right like i have an idea and so you know prime banner we can call him that banner from the main marvel universe it's like then what do you want me to do and alternate banners like i'm opening a portal and basically that bomb is going to come through that portal and it's going to land here right it's going to end up here where i am but in the end it's the rightful thing to do i've caused nothing but just death and destruction and just horrible things uh i wouldn't go i mean he doesn't go as far as to say like it's the fate that awaits me but he says like i really hope that you don't end up like me i really hope that you don't end up in this place where you're basically like this kind of horrible terrible villain what you have here in the form of the incredible hulk is quite literally a gift use it right like use it as a gift treat it with respect but use it to do good things now this is actually a really really cool concept because what this does is it gives us perspective that the only real perspective we have when it comes to the incredible hulk is what we've seen over the course of marvel comics and potentially some alternate realities and unless you're looking at like warren ellis's marvel the end you don't really see a whole lot of like totally screwed up twisted up versions of the incredible hulk but that's all this alternate reality banner knows are just twisted screwed up versions of the hulk and so as a result of this once that bomb goes through and of course it ends up detonating that the portal is reopened and banner or at least the incredible hulk anyway travels through it to wherever his destination ends up taking him next he has no clue where it is that he's going to end up going all he knows is that literally at the moment the hammer of all father thor which was recently reassembled by angela and the angels of heaven is making its way towards the hulk so in essence what we're apparently going to see here which makes perfect sense because literally it's the 60th anniversary of the incredible hulk and thor fighting for the first time that what we're going to end up getting is all father thor against probably the titan hulk which i am ridiculously excited to see but with that being said guys we're going to bring this to an end in order to make all this easier to understand we're just gonna make it into a full story it should make it a whole lot easier to follow but i will catch you all later peace

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Length: 20min 31sec (1231 seconds)

Published: Fri Apr 22 2022