"This Is Why War & Conflict Is Rising" - Eric Weinstein's Thoughts On Jordan Peterson vs Sam Harris

the whole reason that I create content because I I know we don't know each other well so you don't know this about me but what I'm actually trying to do is build a studio a film studio film and TV okay uh because I believe that the way to impact people is to make the next Kung Fu Panda or The Next Star Wars something that has a message at its core but entertains people hits them at olymic level it's an emotional connection probably going to have to focus on youth that bums me out because um while I really enjoy that and I've always wanted that to be a part of it I don't want to give up on adults which is if you know Jeffrey Canada is very much his advice um but hitting people at an impressionable moment in their life whether that's youth or they're just open with something that resonates emotionally that is uh able to incept them with a portal I'm very much using your language on that I would normally think of it as as growth mindset or whatever but you're incepting them in a moment with a portal that causes their their portals are more violent then I love it because I love that kind of [ __ ] so let's use violent language so I'm in fact know that anytime in the future since I'm going to adopt the word portal uh that it just comes with a TM and your name so I'm I'm certainly not trying to to rip it off but I will help popularize it they belong to us all and I I think that that's you know really important to me is that the portal story like the Matrix um is a universal and if you think about it Neo just to see how well I remember the film um you know Neo is kind of searching for something he's leading this underground Lifestyle by night and he's sort of pieced together that there's a something and this is what brings Trinity into his life where Trinity um is going to go out and contct him and let him know that if he follows the White Rabbit uh with an obvious homage to Lewis Carroll so it's the portal story within a portal story and you know he goes into this uh Australian SNM club uh which is very funny um that this is his introduction to a world in which Morpheus is going to take him through the Looking Glass and that scene of waking up you know uh in a completely different context I think is it is the violence of the portal I love that um Neil Strauss called me out one time he said all your [ __ ] language is violent like what is that about but creation is an act of violence oh can I pretend that that's exactly why I do it I don't know why I do it but that feels so wonderful well you have to break something right and you know if you think about how we come into this world uh our our mother's water breaks and that is a moment in which that's a [ __ ] portal right and literally this is something that I find mind-blowing in the Jewish tradition um Passover is about the escape from Egypt which whose name is mitzraim which is a plural masculine plural and it's the narrow places and it is the literal birth story of the Jewish people out of Egypt do you think there are some people that just get I I have a hypothesis that goes like this some people think in archetypal metaphor I'm not one of those people and it actually has I think held me back as a writer I've had to really like learn that or do you think that it is um some people dream in archetypes which is another reason that I think that or is it that just over these stories that we think of now as archetype are are told sort of bit by bit by bit and and shaped over time based on what gets a reaction you need you know uh the simple mind have devils and angels on their shoulders um One Step Up from that you have Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson whispering in opposite ears and you need to camp and DeCamp between the hyper rational now of course I've been unfair to them both Jordan is a scientist and Sam is a pretty spiritual guy but their archetypes um Sam is constantly reminding us for the need uh of the need for rationality and that spiritualism can be grounded in rational and Jordan is really reminding us that if you don't actually just let that Spirit free that your mind has the spiritual capacity built into it um yeah there's there's danger on either side if you're too rational or too spiritual and too moved by the archetype uh in both directions uh lies nonsense but that tension is is magical have you read The Watchmen the by Michael Moore the comic the Graphics yeah yeah so there's a part in there if you remember the book is broken into you've got the main story and then you have Snippets from like a book uh somebody's Journal a diary that kind of thing and one of the Snippets in there this hit me so [ __ ] hard was a guy had written a book on orthology and he said you know the problem with orthology was just a study of birds the problem with orthology is that we know the size of the feathers we know the orientation of the feet and we can tell you you know the gap between the feathers and you know down to the millimeter and what it all means and all that he said but we've lost the Poetry of flight and we've lost the sense of awe that a bird could Inspire that made it such a symbol that we would put it on coins or on temples and he said I never want to get to that point where I'm so blinded by the science that I lose sight of the awe and I was like [ __ ] like that gave me the chills I was like that is so true and that like so I love Sam and Jordan I think they're both extraordinary minds but your notion of being able to camp and DeCamp I think is so important the ability to bounce back and forth talk a little bit about that and how you see that playing out today in particular where people are camping but nobody's decamping well it's very interesting people sometimes accuse me of um having it both ways or middle of the road nothing could be further from the truth people get annoyed with that well they they have the idea that you're you know pick a side man why well because it's pure because there's mush in the middle from from their perspective and what I view is wow you imagine that these two sides have been Waring let's say for thousands of years or hundreds of years or even decades and it's not because both you know both sides probably have a point it's just not there's no synthesis of that dialectic so you have these these sides yelling at each other and I always think if two sides have been nailing at each other with smart people on both sides for a long time that's my cue that they're not they haven't found a frame outside of flat land they're trapped they have not found the portal and so what I start doing is I I invite them both into my mind initially in a sandbox you know can I represent the other person's arguments so they would say yeah man that's exactly what I'm saying all right can I do that for for both sides are there multiple sides Beyond two and so once you sort of have all of these things playing in your head then you start saying okay I'm going to make an Outreach from one sand sandbox to the other what if I'm convinced that there is no God but that religion is super valuable what does that feel like or I'm convinced that there's absolutely a God but that it leads us into madness with um people making claims that can't be substantiated and we have to rever them right whatever these things are so once you start doing that that's why for example years ago on the Tim Ferris program I talked about using coilia you just use a string of swear words to let your brain know we're not in Kansas anymore this is not safe space we're working blue it's after hours it's time to get creative it's time to get violent and you have to be decent about it that's like you know comedians if you go to a you know I was just catching a set at the comedy club at The Comedy Store and that's pretty pretty brutal but on the other hand it's happening in a room everybody's there voluntarily and in general you know it's there's a limit to how bad it's going to get and so these kind of rough spaces that aren't safe spaces are are important if we're going to be generative and you know my belief is is that we all have to recognize that the pure states are to be avoided or rather that you have to embrace multiple pure States because purity of one particular kind or another is where Madness comes from we have to not uh we have to welcome the infection man as you were talking like I was getting the chills that to me that notion of being in what you're calling the sandbox of being able to um steal man the argument was it your brother that came up with that phrase or did he just bring it to the I think I brought it to the wider world but it came out of the sort of East Bay rationality Community at least that's where I found it so I love the the concept of Steel Manning I think that's so important of I think ideologically people have to believe it is their obligation to Steel Man somebody instead of trying to um tear them down like to First understand right to um and I say that selfishly like one of the things I don't understand is when you and I think this is what you mean when you say that the madness happens in the Purity I think more from a biological perspective that once the crop is completely homogeneous it is [ __ ] at risk like one thing goes wrong and the entire crop is lost right one well even worse imagine somebody uh who's eukaryotic decides that they're infect infected with their own mitochondria like you know then the thing that's powering every cell in your body which was initially probably a procaryotic infection uh it becomes something you you need to rid yourself of okay well in the process you're going to just you know you're going to go totally OCD it's like somebody told you hey there's a quarter in your new leather couch go get it you know and there's no quarter there and you're just going to rip the thing to shreds yeah so getting people to um as as a selfish driver to put themselves in a position where they're constantly trying to understand what the other person is coming from so that they can adopt uh anything that works right so Bruce Lee said take what works discard what doesn't add your own so having that anybody whose primary goal is self-development and yes we have the guitar anybody whose primary goal is self-development I think has to have as a part of their operating system system a desire to um first listen hear what might be usable even if you think that that's a rival Camp take on what works discard what doesn't and then find a way to leverage that so that you can do things in the world and my obsession is getting people to understand and this is one of my portals um and this is the path I was going down earlier the reason that I'm so interested in this particular portal that I'm going to outline is it it will change your life forever so it's on one side of the portal you think that you are made a certain way and that is that and life is about making the most of the gifts you were given or weren't or you know making the most of a bad situation however you want to look at it on the other side of that violent Act of Creation of stepping through that portal or being kicked through or whatever you realize that you can change your perception and the perception will change your beliefs which will change your behaviors which will change your outcome and the outcome of course is where I'm obsessed so the portal I'm trying to cram people through is realizing that oh I'm viewing the world from a fixed mindset to use Carol D's um famous book uh mindset and I can have a growth mindset so in one I believe my talent and intelligence are fixed traits in the other I believe they're malleable traits and once I believe they're malleable traits then I can get into my grand Obsession which is getting people to understand that skills have utility so since we have a guitar here this may be the perfect um explanation that guitar that very guitar that you're about to play out has gotten me laid many times now that's a real outcome because I wrote songs for my then girlfriend and she was moved by it it was it was a full recognition of her psychology and what made her feel good and made us feel connected and made her feel sexual and because I could make her feel sexual then I got to have the experience that I wanted to have and also I wanted to connect and I wanted to convey something to her and I wanted to create the shared lexicon that you were talking about you know we could adopt the the Indian Cannon or the East Asian can what the Canon like we were building a cannon together and it was like to be able to reference a song that I had written for I mean it just like it began to shape our lives together but that started with my dumbass having to learn how to play a G chord A C chord A D chord right but those skills have youtility they let me do something and so the thing that freaks me the [ __ ] out about people you're leaning back now about uh about people that um they they get lost in what you call the purity they're stuck in their idea they're not looking to steal man the other argument they just want to know how they're right is skills have [ __ ] utility like if you learn something from that person you're going to be able to do something you weren't able to do that thing right there is based on an impurity the guitar which is even tempered you going to break it out while you explain all right so I don't know whether your mics can pick this up it'll probably pick it up barely I'll narate for anybody at home who's watching and he will pick back up where he left off uh he is pulling out the guitar um and we're going to learn how the guitar itself is born of impurity I'm excited to hear the answer to this I'm not sure that I can predict it I think there might be one more than you would imagine that thing always uh surprised me with just how many latches it has you want to help out show me there we go there it is all right like I said I make no promises about uh the tuning well even if we have just one string we can probably figure out something all right so first what's the impurity this is based on well so if you break the string into three pieces so this would be your E string but if I place my finger exactly at the the midpoint will double the frequency and if I place it a third of the way through it should be giving me three times the frequency now that number of three times the [Music] frequency is not actually the even tempered version of three times the frequency what do you mean even tempered well we have 12 Frets in an octave okay those have been specifically geared by the person who made the guitar to break that 12 uh break that octave which is a doubling of the frequency into 12 exactly equal steps okay if you do 12 exactly equal steps then you will never reach exactly three times the frequency as you go up an octave which is 12 and then seven more half steps which is 19 steps in total that's as close as you can get so it's the difference between and that sounds almost the [Music] same but there's actually a tiny discrepancy and that's why we choose the number 12 because only for 12 do we get that tiny discrepancy and have a reasonable number of steps in the octave the equation if you're trying at home is 2 to the 19 12ths is almost equal to three but is slightly below okay that inur well I'm telling okay that impurity is the basis for Western Harmony that's the great thing that the West did that nobody else did because without that what would happen um without that you'd just have the [Music] pure so for example but I couldn't harmonize with that it seems like I could well if you had those as the exact steps you you'd notice that you couldn't switch Keys you couldn't modulate to other Keys very easily so you've taken a there's a crime in our fretboard and you've taken the body and you've chopped it up into 12 equal pieces and that disguises the fact that our third uh that our fifth in even temperament and our fifth in physics which is the Pythagorean fifth are not the same note but they're so close that our ear can't tell the differ I wasn't sure what I was going to do at this moment in the podcast I knew it would come where you're saying a whole lot of words and I don't understand how they add up I understand each individual word but strung together in the way that you're stringing them together I can only nod in smile is there another way to explain this cuz I here here was my hypothesis with music that you understand math so well that to you it is self-evident that a guitar is math and to me it is not and I experien a guitar entirely experientially so whatever portal exists between the experience of music and the math of music I desperately want to cram myself through because I think it'd be [ __ ] amazing to understand that to no no no I don't want to understand it I want to feel it I want to I want to understand at a body level okay and I don't know if my mind is I don't like to have a fixed mindset so I'm very open to I just haven't had the key Insight that's going to invite me through the portal but it feels like the thing I don't understand is math and that there is a key insight to be had in math that until I have that key Insight in math your sentences will continue to sound cool like when you talk it almost sounds like poetry but I don't understand it okay well the first thing you have to know is that there are certain things that are encoded in physics okay that sound to us as if they were are composed or like music and if I understand them they're going to make playing the guitar easier because I I want people to understand what the punch line is if we fight through and I figure I'm going to just play harmonics that would occur if we strung a cat gut between two trees uh in Borneo okay okay [Music] do you recognize that uh yes I couldn't tell you what it is if you played it again it's I'm trying to do the lick from Pretty Woman oh then definitely not like by Roy orbit she walking back to me so those notes are encoded into the vibrating into the forier series of the vibrating string okay so the point was that I don't think that whoever wrote that song that Roy Orbison made famous I don't think that song is composed so much as discovered it really just came out of uh expanding a series of vibrations for the wave equation of the of of the vibrating string but because of because of that right there's certain things that people will say are cultural like right so oh from The Wizard of Oz are wise men say right that alternation has to do with the natural modes of a vibrating string so all of our all over the world people hear as a natural tone right okay that's just it just has to do with the fact that your your vo your vocal chords or any one-dimensional medium like a flute or a string is going to have those things as part of it but why does that matter like to average person unless this is going to help me get laid right skills have utility unless this is going to boil down to something that I can functionally get something that I desire you want to do that so let's let's take the coffee you seem disappointed well no is it is it that the math of this is fascinating and beautiful to you are we like in that moment where I want the science and you want the awe you want something I want to give you whatever it is that you want and then I want to come back all right so for example if I take the second third and fourth string and I play those that is a major chord if the guitar is tuned to standard tuning okay right now I'm going to ignore the two strings closest to my head and the one closest to the floor right and I have the coffee mug so assume that somebody has a guitar around the house and it's in standard tuning so now I go now I don't have to learn how to fret a G chord or a c chord or all the things that hurt my hand I'm just I got my claw around the mug [Music] right so I can start immediately playing songs or I'll admit that was [ __ ] cool okay the next thing is is is that because the hard [ __ ] just for people listening forgive us since you can't see what's going on but it the the part of learning the guitar that is infinitely harder is the Fring like using your fingers which hurts in the beginning and you're probably going to bleed and you have to build these insane calluses and yeah I I went to my guitar teacher and I said you know what I'm I just don't think my hands are built for this cuz I could not do a bar chord to save my life so to see you use a mug that effectively is right so I'm throwing away most of the or half of the guitar strings one five and six and now I this is going to be like a really bad version of the Four Chord song MH but go to YouTube put in the Four Chord song look at the Axis of Awesome with all of their songs so here's the here's the key thing in the four chords song three of the four chords are just strings 2 three and five with the mug at different positions along the fretboard 12 7 and five these Frets okay the only thing that you have to throw in is that there's a minor chord which is strings one two and three Place played at the 12th fret position now this will be a lousy version of the Four Chord song but the key point is if it comes to you in under two minutes that you can now play all of the songs in the Four Chord song badly with a coffee mug and a guitar that somebody else tuned then you're through a portal so for example if you think let's try Beast of Burden which is it's going to be the wrong voicings so the musicians will object to it so [Music] I'll never be your Beast of Burden now that's not a great version of the song but for two minutes and you think you're musically hopeless it's not too bad we're talking about Mike einiger right y this genius musician everybody thinks is an amazing guy what's even better about him is that he's a very generous teacher he's a good friend great Kai how the hell did you meet him the network man as soon as you break out you meet all these amazing people when I followed the rules I didn't meet anybody that's interesting that that's a conversation worth having but finish this thought and then so the thought I was going to have is is that if you think about that song that he wrote for more or less for aichi that took over the world I realize he wrote a song for aichi didn't he do this um wake me up when it's all over maybe I have no idea wiser and I'm older wow I had no idea that was him that's so it's like it's the same four chords but he starts from the minor chord in the in the cycle so if you put them around it's like six minor so feeling my way through the [Music] darkness it's that cycle now my point is that those are things that once you learn the coffee mug trick mhm you think okay I completely Miss A assessed how difficult this was now was the coffee mug trick is that the portal or did you come to realize everything that you just said from first principles read music and I couldn't understand what was being said to me when people tried to teach me music the standard way so I had to find my own way if you like that clip check out the full powerful episode here and I'll see you there

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