The World Design of Dark Souls | Boss Keys

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This was an obvious direction for the Boss Keys series. Game Maker's Toolkit typically focuses on a more general game design theory with a multitude of games to draw examples from while Boss Keys is more of a study of one game at a time.

I wonder if we'll ever run out of of videos of people talking about Dark Souls? Matt Lees described it as (I'm paraphrasing) one of those games that completely changes the way you think about games forever.

Of course I'll never get tired of hearing endless praise for one of my all-time favorite games but I'd imagine there's a lot of people who are getting sick of it.

Anyway, here's hoping he makes videos for the Metroid series next.

šŸ‘ļøŽ︎ 264 šŸ‘¤ļøŽ︎ u/TheSupremeAdmiral šŸ“…ļøŽ︎ Apr 25 2018 šŸ—«︎ replies

Although I don't think Mark really brought up any new points that people haven't discussed about, this is a comprehensive and well-put-together video. I am always kind of surprised that the world design in DS1 is something that everybody talks about, but I don't think I remember seeing a video that actually analyzes it comprehensively and does it justice.

šŸ‘ļøŽ︎ 40 šŸ‘¤ļøŽ︎ u/Stellewind šŸ“…ļøŽ︎ Apr 25 2018 šŸ—«︎ replies

Something not talked about is brilliant, or rather not so brilliant, design that only seems good when you've got the hindsight to already know how the mechanics work. Divine weapons and transient curses are the prime example of this. Both are effectively unexplained but there is some minor hints that people will point to even though it only really works in hindsight of already understanding the mechanic.

šŸ‘ļøŽ︎ 15 šŸ‘¤ļøŽ︎ u/[deleted] šŸ“…ļøŽ︎ Apr 25 2018 šŸ—«︎ replies

The teleport from start in the second one was a big mistake imo, really broke the world consistency for me.

šŸ‘ļøŽ︎ 45 šŸ‘¤ļøŽ︎ u/Staross šŸ“…ļøŽ︎ Apr 25 2018 šŸ—«︎ replies

Holy shit I wanted this video since the first episode of Boss Keys, cant wait to watch when I come home

Watched and it was a great video as always! Liked the connection he made to the LttP progression, thats a point I havent really seen made before I think. I found his points regarding the direction kinda odd tho, he points towards the dialogue with the Crestfallen to get the position of the bells but complains about the visibility/positionof the Lower Undead Burg door, even tho the key explicitely tells you where to go. Same with the Painted World tbh, he made it sound sound a lot more complicated than it really is, all you gotta do is read the stuff you pick up

šŸ‘ļøŽ︎ 17 šŸ‘¤ļøŽ︎ u/GensouEU šŸ“…ļøŽ︎ Apr 25 2018 šŸ—«︎ replies

So is Dark Souls going to be the new BioShock for video essayists? Just regurgitating the same thoughts already been explained ad nauseam for the past few years? What's next? A look back at how Super Mario Bros. changed gaming?

šŸ‘ļøŽ︎ 30 šŸ‘¤ļøŽ︎ u/shinbreaker šŸ“…ļøŽ︎ Apr 26 2018 šŸ—«︎ replies

Am I the only one who finds lots of Mark Brown's videos focus on extremely obvious stuff? "Dark Souls encourages exploration, because there are lots of things to explore!" I mean, really? "Dark Souls has branching paths, which allow you to tackle objectives/bosses in arbitrary order!" No shit, Sherlock?

I mean, the guy is clearly smart, but in most videos of him that I've seen there's like 2 minutes of insightful things and 20 minutes of "well, obviously".

šŸ‘ļøŽ︎ 9 šŸ‘¤ļøŽ︎ u/Deathcrow šŸ“…ļøŽ︎ Apr 26 2018 šŸ—«︎ replies

This is probably one of my favorite youtubers discovered him last week and binged every single episode of GMTK

šŸ‘ļøŽ︎ 4 šŸ‘¤ļøŽ︎ u/CrewCutWilly šŸ“…ļøŽ︎ Apr 26 2018 šŸ—«︎ replies

Ah man, been itching for a new Mark Brown video for weeks, but I haven't played any DS games yet and don't want to be spoiled, so I can't watch this yet!!!!!

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There are a lot of memorable moments in Dark Souls, but thereā€™s one very specific part that stuck out for me. After arriving in Firelink Shrine, you venture into the Undead Berg, fight the Taurus Demon on the bridge, narrowly avoid getting roasted alive by a dragon, find your way to the Undead Parish, fight past giant soldiers in the church, take this random elevator down, and arrive all the way back atā€¦ Firelink Shrine. Itā€™s at this moment you realise that the world of Dark Souls is very different to most other games. Itā€™s not a linear series of zones - but a complex, maze-like world that branches off into different areas, then loops back around on itself through shortcuts and elevators. It seems to snap together like a fancy 3D jigsaw puzzle, and exploring this world feels like navigating a Metroid map, or a Zelda dungeon. Which is why Iā€™m dedicating this special spin-off episode of Boss Keys to the world of Dark Souls 1. Iā€™m going to be looking at how this world is put together, the advantages and disadvantages of non-linear world design, and how Dark Souls has even more in common with Zelda than you might think. So, buckle up and come with me, Mark Brown, on a journey to the fantasy kingdom of Lordran. To start, we should identify the basic structure of Dark Souls. And I think this game fits quite neatly into five distinct acts. Thereā€™s the intro, in the Undead Asylum, where we learn the ropes and defeat the first boss: the Asylum Demon. Then, for act two, weā€™re in Lordran proper and must ring the two bells of awakening. One can be found after we fight the Bell Gargoyles on top of the Undead Parish, and the other is behind Quelaag, down in Blighttown. You can do these in either order, but most first time players will do the church first. Then, for act three, itā€™s off to Senā€™s Fortress - which is a sort of nightmare funhouse. And then we head to Anor Londo, where we fight Ornstein and Smough, and receive the Lordvessel. Now, in act four, the game tasks you with retrieving the four Lord Souls. These are collected by defeating bosses who are found in new areas - but ones that are just off from places you may have visited before: thereā€™s Gravelord Nito in the Valley of the Giants, Seath the Scaleless in Dukeā€™s Archives, the Four Kings in New Londo Ruins, and The Bed of Chaos in Lost Izaleth. These often have other bosses along the way, like Sif and Pinwheel, and all of this can be done in absolutely any order you like. When youā€™ve got all four, itā€™s on to the final area and the last boss, Gwyn: Lord of Cinder, for act five. So, I think this works really nicely. Acts 1, 3, and 5 are very linear and have a sense of forward momentum to them. While acts 2 and 4 are more open, and branching. Itā€™s an accordion like structure that is actuallyā€¦ very familiar. You see, the basic outline of Dark Souls is near identical to the basic outlineā€¦ of Zelda: A Link to the Past. In that game thereā€™s an intro, and then some early dungeons that can be done out of order. Then the path constricts for Hyrule Castle, but then branches out widely as you re-explore old areas, now with access to the dark world, to tackle the tougher dungeons in largely whatever order you like. Then the path constricts one final time for the battle against Ganon. Perhaps itā€™s not surprising, given how Souls creator Hidetaka Miyazaki has spoken about his admiration for the Zelda series, but I think itā€™s a very interesting parallel nonetheless. But then again, while this does describe the path that most players take - this isnā€™t a completely accurate portrayal of how Dark Souls is laid out. You can actually do lots of stuff out of order. You can kill Pinwheel at any time after arriving in Lordran, you can kill Sif and the Four Kings before ever visiting Anor Londo, and you can kill the Ceaseless Discharge as soon as youā€™ve finished off Quelaag. And you can skip some of these bosses entirely. If you take a secret route to Blighttown through Darkroot Basin, you can skip the Capra Demon and the Gaping Dragon. If you help out Solaire you can skip the Demon Firesage and the Centipede Demon. And if you choose the Master Key as your initial gift, you can even dodge the Taurus Demon. There sure a lot of Demons in this game. They should have called it Demonā€™s Sou...oh wait. Uh, plus, there are also four entirely optional bosses - Moonlight butterfly, Stray Demon, Crossbreed Priscila, and Dark Sun Gwyndolin - that have no impact on the structure of the game whatsoever. They just give you cool goodies. So the structure of Dark Souls really looks more likeā€¦ this. Not quite as attractive, is it? But itā€™s a good visual reminder that Dark Souls is a game with lots of branching paths. Like, when you get to the Undead Parish you can explore the church, or go fight the Moonlight Butterfly in Darkroot Garden, or fight this hydra in Darkroot Basin, or go off into the Lower Undead Berg and explore from there. And right from the very beginning of the game, in Firelink Shrine, the player is expected to travel up to the Undead Berg but you can, instead, head to the Catacombs, or New Londo Ruins. All of this gives Dark Souls a very liberating and adventurous feeling. You rarely get the sense that youā€™re on a predetermined path - but, instead, youā€™lre making your own decisions and following your curiosity through the world. And while some of these areas are complete dead ends in terms of overall game progression, there are often items in these late game areas that you can get early if youā€™re brave enough. Even a low level player can find the useful Fire Keeper Soul in New Londo Ruins. And then run out of there in fear. Thatā€™s because the area is filled with ghosts that canā€™t be killed with conventional weapons. Likewise, the catacombs are filled with regenerating skeletons who will probably kill you if youā€™re at a low level. But getting killed is a good way to create a lasting memory in the playerā€™s brain. If you go into the Catacombs and get wrecked by skeletons, youā€™ll spend the next 10 hours of the game thinking about coming back to tackle that area when youā€™re at a higher level. Which is handy - because thatā€™s where one of the four lords is hiding. Now, as i said before, Lordran doesnā€™t just branch out but it also loops back on itself, with connecting points between many of the gameā€™s locations. Knock down this ladder, for example, and you not only get to rest at an old bonfire - but can quickly skip all of this stuff to quickly get from the Undead Berg to the bridge to the Undead Parish. And then look at Firelink shrine. While it initially connects to Undead Berg, the Catacombs, and New Londo Ruins - later in the game it will also connect up to the Undead Parish and the Lower Undead Berg. This is achieved through doors that only open from one side. So, when you first move through this aqueduct just off Firelink Shrine, youā€™ll find a locked door. But later in the game, youā€™ll permanently open it from the other side. This means youā€™re not overwhelmed with options and branching paths at the beginning - but as the game goes on, the world becomes steadily more complex. So keeping the connected world of Dark Souls in your head is a difficult job, especially because the game has no map screen whatsoever - perhaps a throwback to NES games like Metroid 1 and the first Zelda. But thereā€™s a quiet satisfaction in being able to navigate this complex kingdom through memory alone. Whether thatā€™s figuring out the best way to get between two areas, or remembering the location of, say, Andre the Blacksmith, or the shopkeeper who sells Purging Stones - and then knowing how to get there efficiently and safely This sort of spatial memory is reminiscent of games like Resident Evil, where a big part of the challenge is creating efficient pathways between areas in the Spencer Mansion. That sensation is largely gone in the other Souls games, where you can simply fast travel between areas, or wrap back to some central hub to find all the shops and upgrade stations. I much prefer the way itā€™s done in Dark Souls 1 because not being able to warp around also creates a pretty strong feeling of isolation and, I suppose you could say, homesickness, when you venture deep into certain areas. Going further and further into the Catacombs or Blighttown, feels legitimately unnerving as youā€™re moving further and further away from safety and familiarity - and if you want to return to the surface, youā€™ll have to literally climb back out. You canā€™t just warp. I feel like you also gain a much better understanding of the world by exploring on foot. And what a world it is. The extremely vertical nature of Lordran lends itself to an initial sensation of going deeper and deeper. The game practically trolls you, giving you a place called The Depths that isnā€™t even close to being the lowest point in the game. That area drops down to Blighttown, which drops down to Demon Ruins, and down to Lost Izaleth. This give the world a real sense of history. Stuff built on top of other stuff. Strata. And then, in stark contrast, Senā€™s Fortress and Anor Londo, are are all about climbing up, higher and higher, which has a very different feeling. You get a sense of ascension. Rising action. It makes you feel heroic. Miyazaki has said ā€œAfter ringing the bells and overcoming the traps of Sen's Fortress I really wanted to player to feel ā€˜Yes! I've made itā€™.ā€ Itā€™s worth noting, however, that Dark Souls does not ever suffer from a sense of samey-ness - despite the fact that all of the gameā€™s areas must link up to one another. Each zone still feels distinct - visually, and often from a gameplay perspective as well. Youā€™ve got the pitch black Tomb of the Giants. The twisting staircases in Dukeā€™s Archives. The hazy pathways of Darkroot Garden. Traps in Senā€™s Fortress. Pitfalls in The Depths. Invisible pathways that kinda suck to be honest in the Crystal Caves. And then Anor Londo - which is clean, pristine, untouched, and completely different to everything youā€™ve seen before. Now, choice, non-linearity, branching paths, and interconnectivity makes for fascinating world design, but it does pose two significant problems that any game of this sort has to overcome. One, is direction. If the game isnā€™t super linear and straightforward, and maybe requires some backtracking, how does the player know where to go? And, I mean, Dark Souls is a famously obtuse game. There are no waypoints, no compass, no map screen with a big red X on it. You just have to find things for yourself. For the first major quest, ringing the two bells of awakening, the execution isā€¦ mixed. The first bell is very easy to find. The route to the Undead Parish is largely straightforward, and the top of a church is a natural place to find a bell. But the second - which is deep down in the ground, is more tricky to discover. So, the bloke at Firelink Shrine does give you some help. Heā€™ll say ā€œThere are actually two Bells of Awakening. One's up above, in the Undead Church. The other is far, far below, in the ruins at the base of Blighttown.ā€ But the route to Blighttown is hard to find. The main path has you find this key in a location that you never need to visit, and then open this rather random door on the bridge with the dragon. Look, if you want to seer a door into the playerā€™s memory, make it like the crest door in Darkroot Garden, or the massive locked door at Senā€™s Fortress, where Siegmeyer talks about how itā€™s locked up tight. Those doors are hard to forget, whereas this tiny wooden door is easy to miss. There is, at least, another route, but this requires finding a semi-hidden cave in the ramp down to Darkroot Basin and then dashing through the very difficult Valley of Drakes. Having two routes is good. And of course, forcing the player to actually explore, read the item descriptions, and venture out into unknown areas is also fun. But Iā€™d say this is a tad too obtuse and may send players running to a walkthrough. A similar thing happens after finishing Anor Londo, when you are given a very brief, vague, and non-repeatable cutscene showing three orange fog gates disappearing throughout the world. Basically, in three random areas throughout Lordran, there are now zones that you can get to, so you can go off and fight the Four Lords. I hope youā€™re in an exploring mood. Luckily, there are probably lots of places you visited earlier in the game, but ran away from with your tail between your legs, like New Londo Ruins, the Demon Ruins, and Catacombs. And because youā€™ve got nothing better to do, and because beating Ornstein and Smough will make anyone more confident to explore scary locations, youā€™ll find yourself back in these areas - and then naturally stumbling upon the next sections of the game, and the four lords. But at the same time, I do think some cryptic clues, purchasable hints, and that sort of thing could be good. Wandering around looking for the next area is only fun until you give up and check a walkthrough, at which point the gameā€™s sense of mystery just falls away entirely. Anyway. At this point in the game, youā€™ll have unlocked something very special. Just like classic Zelda games, you are eventually given the ability to fast travel, as you can use the Lordvessel to warp between bonfires. In some ways this is good. As you barrel towards the end of the game, you maybe donā€™t want to be revisiting old locations and backtracking through finished areas. You just want to get on with things But I actually think that this is where Dark Souls can lose some of its magic. Where the first half of the game felt like an actual world, where I had to think critically about how I would traverse itā€¦ the second half felt like a bunch of disconnected levels. In some ways, the fast travel almost feels like it was stuck on at the last minute, because the game already has a good way to get around quickly: the Valley of Drakes. This is an underground network of paths and bridges that connects New Londo Ruins, Blighttown, Deeproot Basin, and a path that will take you to Firelink Shrine. The difficulty of the enemies means itā€™s largely inaccessible to new players, but experienced players can use it to speed between areas. However, by the time youā€™re strong enough to fight these drakes, youā€™ll have unlocked fast travel - making the area pretty much useless outside of one trip to collect a few scattered goodies. The designers could also have introduced some more shortcuts and connection points, such as some speedy way to get from Anor Londo to the main world. This fast travel also removes a key part of Metroidvanias, which is the thrill of revisiting old spaces with new abilities and skills. Now, on my first playthrough, I did have to re traverse Blighttown because the warpable bonfire near Quelaag is hidden behind an illusionary wall, and I completely missed it. So I needed to backtrack on foot to get down to the Demon Ruins. And you know what? Beasting my way through an area that once gave me real trouble was a pretty brilliant feeling that can otherwise be lost in Dark Soulsā€™s second half. I should note, however, that this can also be accomplished by having old bosses return as normal enemies. Taking down Capra Demons in two hits, and the Taurus Demon in four strikes feels pretty good. At least not every bonfire is a warp point, which still allows for some navigation of the world, and also strategy as to which bonfires you spend humanity on for kindling. Okay. So the other challenge designers have to overcome when making non-linear games is dealing with difficulty curves. In Dark Souls, the Four Lords and their respective areas are roughly the same level of difficulty. Which means you can happily tackle them in any order - but it also means your character will keep levelling up to the point where the lords you tackle last will be pushovers. But I, mean, what are the other options here? You could make the bosses have different difficulty levels but then the player may randomly stumble up on the hardest boss first and get frustrated, and this basically just creates a largely linear and expected path through what is supposed to be a completely non-linear act in the game You could theoretically scale the bosses in relation to the playerā€™s current level. I talked about how Uncharted: Lost Legacy does something like this in its non-linear Western Ghats chapter, where no matter which order you climb the three towers, youā€™ll always face this puzzle in harder and harder variants, because Naughty Dog magically swaps in the correct puzzle before you get to it. Maybe something like this could work for Dark Souls. But whatever the case, the actual game keeps the difficulty curve of this act quite flat: though some areas are arguably a bit tougher than others. And while this absolutely allows for open exploration and player choice, in my experience I quickly lost sync with the gameā€™s challenge and was rampaging through Lost Izaleth like a boss. So this video is mostly about the global level design of Lordran. About structure and non-linearity and direction. But I do want to touch on more local design for a spell. I think the defining design philosophy of Dark Souls is that the designers just want to mess with you at every opportunity. Look at Undead Berg. This enemy snipes you from afar, forcing you to either be defensive or aggressive. But too aggressive will see you walking into a trap, as this dude bursts out from behind a wall. Then thereā€™s a section where you have to dart along a bridge and into a building to avoid firebombs, but then youā€™re right in the middle of multiple guys. Then thereā€™s a building where an enemy is hiding behind a corner. A flaming trap rolling down a staircase. An enemy that can shoot you from atop a tower. Itā€™s a nightmare! The ideal way to play Dark Souls is to move slowly and carefully, and fight enemies in one-on-one bouts where you have lots of room to move. But the level design and enemy placement does everything to mess with this, using thin walkways, archers and spell casters, traps, narrow corridors, and more. The other consideration that the Dark Souls designers have to consider is the placement of bonfires. From is quite generous in the early game. but makes you wait longer and longer as you get deeper into the game. Having zero in New Londo Ruins is a bit of a bummer, and only having one at the very top of Senā€™s Fortress makes the whole ordeal even more perilous and tense. The world is also dotted with secrets. Pretty much every push to explore will reward you with some new item, and the glowing white markers challenge you to make tricky jumps, or lure you into an ambush. One of the biggest secrets though are the illusory walls. These look like normal walls but then fade away when you hit them. They actually work a lot like the bombable walls in Zelda 1, in that they are genuine secrets and not clearly signposted ā€œsecretsā€. But weā€™ve come a long way since 1986. So you donā€™t have to waste bombs - but at the same time, the fact that hitting walls degrades your weapons will stop you from having to hit every wall you see. Also, everything is optional. You donā€™t need to whack a single illusory wall to finish the game. And the clever note system in the game means other players will be able to point out these walls, though often with some good-natured trolling. These walls generally hide bonfires and treasures, but also an entire area; The Great Hollow, and its nearby Ash Lake. To be honest, one of the most remarkable things about Dark Souls is that it is happy to hide huge amounts of content in areas that some players will just never find. Take the Painted World of Ariamis, which is one of the most intriguing areas of the game but to get there you need to roll off a moving elevator, make a difficult jump, and roll up in a ball in a birdā€™s nest. This lets you fight a secret boss, get a special item, and then present it to a painting on the other side of the world. I mean ultimately youā€™ll just find out about it on the internet - but still, itā€™s cool, and lends the world a sense of mystery and surprise. So the world of Dark Souls 1 is pretty special. Branching paths let you explore by following your curiosity. Non-linearity lets you create your own adventure, and is perfect for second playthroughs and speedruns. The interconnected pathways encourage you to memorise the geography and architecture of the world. The lack of fast travel makes every journey feel more perilous. And the gameā€™s accordion structure offers both moments of exploration and moments of forward propulsion. But this sort of world design creates interesting problems for designers when it comes to difficulty curves and direction: and Dark Souls isnā€™t perfect in either regard. Plus, the late game switch to fast travel takes away from one of the gameā€™s most interesting factors. Instead of trying to perfect this structure in future games, though, From Software largely ditched this sort of interconnected world design in the Dark Souls sequels, and Bloodborne. I mean, these games do still thrill with their level design. The sequels are arguably more complex from a local perspective, as an area like Yarnham is a loopy, branching maze-like miniature Lordran - even if the overall world map is more linear. And there are also lots of shortcuts that take you back to Bonfires and Lamps, which provides that warm and fuzzy feeling of knowing where you are. Plus, there are still many optional bosses, moments of non-linearity, and opportunities for backtracking. But itā€™s never been quite the same as Dark Souls 1. Itā€™s not like using your brain to figure out the quickest way to get from Darkroot Garden to New Londo Ruins. Or stumbling down some random cave and accidentally skipping two boss fights. Or taking an elevator from the Undead Parish, and suddenly finding yourself back in Firelink Shrine. So hereā€™s hoping that, one day, From Software might revisit this very special flavour of world design that it showed, in Lordran. Hey! Thanks for watching. This is a one-off episode so please donā€™t expect future videos on the world design of Demon's Souls or Dark Souls 3 or Bloodborne or whatever. Never say never, but itā€™s not something Iā€™m planning right now. Instead, Iā€™ll be tackling a different franchise for Boss Keys season 2. Iā€™ll see you then. Thanks so much to my Patrons for making this sort of content possible.
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