THE ULTIMATE GOROSEI TALKATHON!! | One Piece Chapter 1110 | The One Piece Parcast

bar Vision the planet is calling you it's Mother Earth yeah it's it's fall it's falling out of orbit brother we have to save it back up it needs Life Alert yeah because the gorsy are so damn old how you doing I'm I'm doing great I'm doing great you know uh the planets Fallen the plan planets planets multiple planets have fallen or or do you like the other translation because it could be like the falling stars do you like falling stars or planetfall I like falling stars more but planetfall isn't bad it reminds me of moonfall which is the movie that came out last year it's really good wait moonfall wasn't that James Bond movie no no no no moonfall came out last year and it was about um the moon falling out of orbit oh so the title just spoiled the entire movie yeah yeah moonfall 2 hours and 10 minutes and it has some of the best acting I've ever seen in my life and has a great plot too like like the moon turns out to be an alien spaceship it's so crazy good as Avatar the live action oh yeah yeah just on the same level as Avatar live action that was phenomenal it was so good woo it was so bad I completely get what's being said now yeah yeah you you understand the words being said um speaking of words being said yam MOS oh yeah yeah yeah uh things are going on over there apparently yam is traveling around wano that's cool yeah that was kind of like the Baseline defense for people who thought that yam was going to stay there like yeah but like if yam wants to be Odin then she's going to travel all of wano first right and then leave wano right but she had been stuck on GMA so you know like technically she doesn't even know what she's protecting like if we think about it yeah she's just protecting a bunch of uh Unknown People a bunch of f yeah so you know solid I saw someone I think it was king of lightning um you good yeah I'm great no I choked on my own spit God the worst uh yeah yoai um but um yeah someone in King of lightning stream saying that once once you're a cover Story character you're done and I was just like laugh in the context of like yam joining and I'm just like you're not wrong like you show up in the cover story it's kind of it's kind of wraps a little bit you know just a just a tiny bit no no this is a 2024 cover story though like dude come on we had the Kon and Van auger scene right like I I have I have High Hopes I think we could see like the Blackbeard Pirates invading yam to is like yo I got whooped I got to go to the straw hats I don't know that could be copium but there is a chance that we get a really good outcome out of this yeah except here I don't want to r on your parade but I do think the title of the series does matter a little bit it's Oni child Yamato and the holy Inari Shrine pilgrimage volume two so it's like very like you know kind I mean I guess the last one was what germa double 6's cold Excursion and in that we got like Vega Punk and in that we got like um you know everything else black stuff so like the name but like at the end of the day like at least with the germa stuff it made sense like it connected to all of these things in a slight way like they were in the same place whatever this one's just like kind of we're volume two already in is it g to end with yam seeing the Blackbeard Pirates that'd be kind of crazy you know what I mean I feel like now feel it could like J jerma double six went all the way to Neo mads and then we even saw the gors in it it's like going into the like the the JMA double 6 cover story seeing the title you would not expect neads okay okay but like okay okay here's the difference though germa wins technically by the end of their like they don't they don't lose by the end of their own cover St but if Blackbeard shows up that means yam loses you know what I mean like yam's story yeah you can lose in your cover story it happens it happens no that's that is that is disrespectful dude we left and then defeated is the only child yam and the holy anari shying pilgrims the end of it she's just what devastated like Blackbeard shiru um oh my God carabu is probably going to be there too oh no Ben Aug yeah like that's that's a shot Karine Devon Kine Devon might just chop off yam's head I don't even know dude yeah yeah does she get out of this I don't know you know it would be kind of crazy if I forget if you said it or somebody else said it that like um K Devon's power oh no this is a common idea like she might have the power to transform other people like with the things and I think you said it too um before uh with the with the the context of them going to fisherman Island and uh yeah ancient weapons but if like yam's like I'm Odin and then she changes her him her into Odin that'd be crazy you know what I mean like that' be kind of sick that'd be kind of scary yeah that would be scary do you think yam would want to become yam again or do you think they'd want to stay Odin um I don't know it'd be funny if she was just like this isn't what I meant you know what I mean like this I me not like this not like this it but like obviously we can't get all that in the cover story right it' just be hey you never know yeah oh but you know what what's up wait I'm going to travel all over wano just like Odin but Odin's story got interrupted by Whitebeard so yam story getting interrupted by Blackbeard would be kind of that kind of fits you know what I mean see I like it you know what I you know what I would like this is a this is head canono me right here this is me going crazy firing off all my neurons but I would like it if Blackbeard invades interrupts yam's story and the only reason yam gets out is because of kaido oh who some might call you a softy sigh some wait why some like fatherly love the kaido comes in to save the day and says little you're you're my son no one hurts my son I'm not Whitebeard I wouldn't let die you know like that kind of thing I don't know I don't know if it'd be that kind of thing I I could see kaido just wanting to fight though imagine I kind of think about it like imagine kaido did come to Marine Ford and he did Kill Whitebeard but like for some reason he like cuz Ace would have fit in his calamities cuz like cards and so you know like king queen Ace Jack you know like that would have been a great lineup and um it would have been funny if a marine for he just decided like Ace you're going to be one of mine now after killing Whitebeard obviously Ace wouldn't like that but then kaido would probably win you know what I mean like yeah like he I mean I'm not saying that like you know the Admirals couldn't all stop him but like kaido's kind of crazy you know like yeah I mean I feel like the ace situation with kaido would go the same way with Ace and Whitebeard where Ace didn't want to join whitebeard's crew then Whitebeard just beat him up like a million times and then he's like hey you know what but I guess I'm your son after all I think it's going to be the same thing for kaido right just lock him in a cave beat him every other day and be like hey Ace you're now my prison Captain guy yeah do you think what do be Pirates do do they just like chill yeah I have no idea I mean Ace would go the way of kid I think Ace is kid plus Luffy in a lot of ways because like kid like kind of was like this headstrong always running in died to Shanks right like Ace was the guy who couldn't turn his back on people who interrupted like like insulted his family right so he in that way he had like a character defect in ingrained in him and but then he also has like the Luffy side cuz like he technically could use hockey unlike kid so like when you think about it kid plus Luffy equals equals Ace yeah yeah I could see that yeah actually you know what he the thing is Ace is also depicted to be actually like like when it mattered he was smart like in alabasta like he had like everything planned out like like of how at the end and then Nami was like oh my God you're actually like really smart compared to your brother are you guys even related like that kind of a thing cuz like obviously when Ace is goofing around he's goofing around but then when it mattered he was more like a serious kind of like Zoro or law character so it might actually be that law kid and Luffy you combine them a little bit of law not all of law some of law and then you get you got Ace huh that's an interesting thing that's like a video idea that's a video idea I think Ace is related to these guys Oda Oda missed Ace so much he divided up his character into law and kid which kind of does you know like law is technically like he's like a brother to Luffy Now sort of sort of so I would say so I would say even kid to an extent they all feel like um maybe not brother but they remind me of like the next door neighbor's kid yeah right like like you're going up in the cue saac and then you got like three kids running around that's uh that's kid law and Luffy but I guess you could say the same thing for Ace and Sabo yeah yeah so uh with this cover page though like where do you think it's going to go so I I I took my guess uh what's your guest do you think she's actually going to complete this trip cuz I don't think so like what the hell is the holy anari Shrine like have we seen that I don't know we haven't right I didn't look into it but I think we've seen two shrines and I like the this is either the shrine that Zoro and hiori were were shacked up in or it's the shrine that Odin made all of his concubines in and I don't know if there was other shrines and I don't know if those were the same shrines but I'm pretty sure those are the two shrines that I remember there's also the the kurumi shrine I think that like Orochi and Higurashi were in and I doubt that's the same one that Zoro was in and that's probably not the same one that could you imagine if Odin ran a like a brothel house in Reverse no wait just him in at the age of eight in a kurazumi shrine that'd be so that's be pretty cursed yeah yeah yeah like that's some ancestral [ __ ] right there so we do not have a Inari Shrine in wano yet that we've seen so this G to be like brand new in I I'm I'm assuming the Inari Shrine is probably core to the uh uh what's what's yam's wolf thing name like maybe it's related to the wolf mythical wolf uch no makami is that it yeah yeah okuchi no makami yeah maybe that has some relation to Inari Shrine possibly yeah I looked up Inari it's like the god of rice and agriculture oh well thei Noami was the guardian of people yeah I feel like aari has a lot of meanings that was just like the first one I found and then I didn't read past that so you know I bet anari has many different meanings because that's just how Japanese works but uh yeah I guess we're gonna see a lot of rice Farmers shout out shout outs to my family shout outs to the fam Jam shout outs to the fam hopefully we'll see them in the cover story then picking up that Rice love to see it yeah thorough would you be a rice farmer if you could um how like imagine you're in like a not China Vietnam yeah yeah yeah no no no Cambodia you're a Cambodian rice farmer no no no your parents are rice Farmers would you be a rice farmer too or would you want to leave the Village um I don't know I that's a tough one I guess it would depend on like the circumstances you know what I mean like you're dirt poor I mean if that's the circumstances then like you know what's funny about that though you see and I'm not I'm not generalizing here but you see a lot of videos coming from like rural like I don't even know Tibet and Nepal and like all these like farming places and like all those people are so happy like they're just happier and they're just like making they're like cooking on like like a rock stove thing that's honestly kind of sick like the way they're cooking like Master like they would probably get a melin star if they opened up cuz it was like that like it was you got the experience through the camera it was crazy and it's like little kids doing it too you know like the parents that teach the kids how to cook like mad young so you have like this three-year-old that's just like like skinning a fish or something or doing some insane prep process for this meal and then it look looks super dangerous but it's a three-year-old so it's fine I guess plot armor and and they're just all happy they're just genuinely like the kid looks like they're enjoying life um it honestly doesn't look like the parents beat him into like learning that whole process so hey you can't you can't the grass is always greener on the other side but like if that Greener is just pure happiness like I don't know that that that might be worth your while I don't know you have to experience it yeah like you got to be a rice Farmer for a day to find out or like you'd have to be born in that life I feel like being born in this like American Standard it skews you to no end and I think that applies without like that just the happiness thing like I feel like I feel like if you bring up Healthcare and then like the international like First World countries all laugh at us they're like you guys like I forget someone said they pay like 60% tax in California and then they don't have like good Public Schools or or Healthcare or like anything or and then all the streets have potholes and and all the viral countries are like so what do your taxes go to and it's like most of them couldn't tell you you know it's like I don't [ __ ] know um but yeah so yeah yeah I would I think we need more Farmers dude hey I think uh see if I was if I was God of the world yeah I'd probably give everybody a little patch of land so they can Farm some crops uhhuh so that's like a thief Dum it's a thief you're giving people so I do that and then I'd also do my monster idea where I just have a bunch of hybrid monsters come out of the ocean oh and po populate the Earth yeah you know you know that theory no no no no I thought cuz you said monsters and I was like Johan you're just going to go out there and like murder people like what's happening oh no no not not not pull a Johan which Johan's getting better in the final the final Saga that I'm in yeah getting getting like institutionalized better or like wait what do you mean no when you said getting better like better as a character or like as in he's better at killing people oh he's he's he's getting better at killing people that's something I've been waiting for for in the whole series I'm like Johan please kill more people yeah yeah see some some you know the naive would think like oh he's getting better like he's getting help he's going to his AA meetings and stuff like that but no you meant the opposite getting yeah I just wanted a better villain and he's he's he's glowing up in the final episodes yeah he's meeting your he's he's matching expectations you know that's out of any anybody you always want them to meet your expectations now dad ass I think the main villain of monsters is just Roberto oh my God more than Johan in some instances Roberto is the the is he the police people no he's so Roberto is Johan's right-hand man essentially uh he was well not not exactly right-hand man like Roberto shows up and he wants to help Johan fulfill his like dream wait but what was his affiliation I thought he was like the helper like the like he did things you know like for him I would consider him like a Hitman he just kind of shows up and does he's like a he's a handyman one day he's a husband next day he's next day he's a a sex worker kind of everywhere yeah I forgot but I was like wasn't he in like wasn't he U masquerading and I feel like I remember one time it was like he was like a secretary or something like that forget though yes he went to he he masquerad as as a as a therapy guy and I think you're right no no no he masquerad as a lawyer too yeah yeah yeah there was some kind of like official stuff I'm forgetting but yeah when whenever you need somebody to fill a role you just [ __ ] bring Roberto back from the dead for the 10th time yeah better he's a better better Calla Jesus so the first page of this chapter part we see black lightning hitting the sky raki has been summoned we see blueg grass and doll they say what in the world is going on over there the Marines are all shocked and then we see that Frankie has finally made it to the giant ship officially I mean last chapter he was like in front of it this chapter he's still in front of it never mind they they made no moves but hey everything's going on and uh how do you feel about it I think one of my favorite parts of this first page was the giraffe going z z z z z it was just kind of funny I was just like being all serious and I just see a giraffe zooming across and the the thing is just Z I'm like who the giraff is smiling he's happy dude he's he's living life you see that he loves being ridden by Blue yeah there's something about this draft that like you know it made me feel like Kaku is in the story um andak actually here doing something woohoo yeah yeah kak W I miss my I miss Kaku Kaku is kind of like if we're sad about Zoro and Luchi not showing up for like half a year Kaku hasn't shown up for more you know and he's just in a bubble someone's got to help my man you know you know this is going to sound this is going to be a little bit controversial of a take but I kind of wish Kaku got a fight here like the same time when Luchi was fighting Zoro like maybe jimbe you know like obviously jimbe is going to win just like how we knew Zoro was going to win but just give him a fight you know like give him like a good old little offc screen you know give him that one page it could have even it could have even been a double KO like imagine we have Jim B killing Kaku in one panel Zoro beating Luchi in the other I think that would be that would have been kind of cool what do you think about Kaku versus Frankie Kaku versus Frankie Kaku Slaughters Frankie dude that's it's interesting cuz like I saw like I forget when but like Frankie takes no L's like Frankie hasn't lost in the like period and I'm like yeah but like it's Kaku and like people brought up like oh big mom he ran over big mom and he wasn't even scared he like was trying to box her shot lasers at her and I'm like yeah but like if he fights like a Kaku I'm pretty sure Kaku wins but then I was thinking about it because Kaku is technically a ship right and that would be kind of you know like oh shipright versus ship right yeah yeah yeah like I would even consider kaku's main occupation as shipright over whatever he's just he's he's so happy gol Lucky in the he's just always different whether it's cp9 and cp0 or in gal La he's always just like him and he loves ships that's his that's his you know little tism there is that he's just like it's a ship like he's a ship guy he's a ship guy and a kid guy he loves kids I feel like all of cp9 they're all like really friendly outside of their assassination job yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah except for spand spm's like a monster in and of himself but yeah yeah all the rest of cp9 like they were really nice at that town like that's one of the reasons why I love the bad guys bro like people are like oh but they're bad people it's like yeah but that's that's if you're a pirate like if you're like a regular ass dude like cp9 they actually will help you like they'll go out of their way to help you as long as you're not on like their mission yeah as long as you're not like the assassination Target or a pirate like cp9 will actively help your town yeah yeah it's kind of crazy like technically I mean same with crocodile like crocodile is a little crazy but oh yeah yeah sorry I when I said crocodile I meant in terms of if you're an animal cuz he he held out the umbrella for the dog like I love that the bad guys in this series have their soft spots that's what I really enjoy not a lot of series do that and um I appreciate it Oda thank you thank you for humanizing them like in water 7 right technically their mission was exposing government corruption technically right because Iceberg was uh fostering a criminal that was like uh ordered to death and had the ancient weapon uh that destroy the world yeah so like technically from if like they explain that to the citizens the citizen be like wait what what Iceberg hello mayor our mayor was out here harboring criminals like that you know and so technically you know the civilians they were doing them a solid now the fire that they cause and all that that huboo sure they pinned it on the straw hats but like the straw hats are criminals let's be real yeah yeah so it's like and the straw hats weren't exactly the most like the best citizens in water 7 they like just destroyed buildings they ran up on a family just started beating them up you know sure that family robbed them first but like you know then they beat up all the innocent how many of those people were actually involved in kidnapping Usopp it was probably like three of them right but then they instead just walked up to their house and beat up the kids beat up the the cousins none of them no okay so so the Frankie family to me they're a great area of the law where if somebody were to beat them up I I kind of like turn a blind eye you know yeah but like like whatever dude at the end of the day it's not like they got a RICO charge for that like they robbed USA if you brought them to court you bring the three that robbed USA you don't bring down the whole like what are the little kid the kids are probably like Hopscotch just wearing armor like wow we love you Frankie and then like why are we getting beat up we didn't even know who's this ug oh my God yeah yeah that's another incredible thing Frankie found like all like similar people like it's kind of C he found all the orphans right he found all the orphans and people with no h are jobs and then he said hey come be a thug with me come come join the Frankie family and be even worse and that's the thing a lot of people forget Frankie was in the black market like he knew about the slave trade he was the one who like taught us a lot about it or some of it going into sabot and that's because of his Frankie family connection that's how we got adamwood also was the black market so like Frankie was in that sauce dude oh thinking okay wait wait so that's interesting that you mentioned that now since we're going to elb pretty soon but if adamwood is from elb and that's like confirmed do you think there's going to be like a weird Black Market trade going uh going down over there like we we'll meet another one of the underworld bosses over there or something yeah CU we have been meeting the underworld bosses pretty pretty often yeah I think it's Shanks that's you know that's the shanks so so but do you think Shanks is going to elbaff cutting a part of the tree off from the Giants and just selling it like to the black market they just they just give it to he they give it to him I think I think it's like one of those things like if Luffy asked like the fisherman Island their main expert was candy they had no quals of giving all of it to Luffy even at a detriment to big mom you know even when there's a countersource right yeah like Luffy goes to island island it doesn't matter what there is hey shandora take all the gold why not and I don't know but but a trie is so different though like I'd be like yo like we grew this for like a hundred years like have you ever played um green mama or garden Mama sorry no no it's like the old Nintendo game and you just go around like planting trees it's like that dude that takes a long time yeah yeah I mean I played I played a uh Farmville Farmville way back oh I used to love Farm dude oh man part honestly like one day if me and you if me or you ever hit it super rich like I'm talking like Buu bucks yeah would you ever want to start a farm with me oh yeah I tell my wife that all the time oh my God me too she doesn't understand yeah yeah that's oh my god dude I dude I that's what I'm saying I think every guy in the world if they could if they could live comfortably and have everything they want they would live on a farm I don't know about every guy but like I know that the every guy who dreams of this probably gets resistance from their wife yeah okay maybe not like a farm farm where you like you know you're doing it like you know 15 hours a day waking up at the crack of dawn but like maybe just like a small like really nice Garden I I guess that's a better way to put it Farm you know like myself like I have internet not like and like like I'm not being subsidized by the government type of farm where it's like a huge like family conglomerate operation and we can grow things for fun it's not for survival like like maybe one day you want to grow a pineapple and then I hit you with a melon and then we come together and we we crossbreed and it's like a pine melon yeah yeah yeah I tried that with um some of my mom's plants growing up but she also welcomed it she's like yeah he's learning my mom actually did that to a tree she she put a a there was a dying tree in our front yard um and like I I told my uh so this this is a longer story but I was telling my dad which trees were going to fall down if we didn't cut them um because like the storm and so like we cut down all these trees and there was one tree that was dying I was like we should cut this one but it was very hard to cut but we should do it and my mom said no I got it and then like like 6 months later it's alive it's it's back and it's also growing grapes so what she did was she put a grape like she put like some kind of berry thing on it and the berri started growing off of the wood and then that somehow reinvigorated the entire tree and so the and now she just she like comes out she's like hey do you want to have some grapes I'm like not from this like corpse ass zombie Ass grapes I don't know what this is and my mom just like oh well you're lost and she start eating from the thing I'm like that's just that's just crazy but but yeah yeah I would definitely be down to crossbreed some pineapple melons you know yeah no my only experience with crossbreeding is just when I I used to kill a lot of ants when I was a kid uh so I used to I used to take a lot of toothpicks and I remember remember stabbing through an ant and then on the other end I would stab it through a spider to see if it would work like like the human centipede but just like the ant spider centipede instead uhuh it's didn't work they were already dead the comments already like pars backstory and it's like the angel Emoji and like happy SK SK skull your mom's over here working at like unit unit 712 or something she's over here cross breeding plants I think the tree and the grapes are happy okay I'd like to think so I just you know I do regret not trying one of the berries but but at the end of the day I think I was valid to be a little worried yeah yeah may maybe like you open your basement one day and then you see a bunch of like Barry people like please let me out what would you do in that in that instance like let let's say like what would I do if I found Barry people hype his no no no no okay okay imagine this right um imagine we're brothers right we have the same mom hypothe medical mom we her name is um Matilda Matilda yes uhuh I was going to go for like a Russian name but yeah yeah her name is Matilda is kind of Russian is it not it's kind of it's not like fully Russian youga did you what did you want no I was gonna go over like SLV or something you know I sorry okay I just woke up okay my my accent's it's it's killing me um yeah yeah yeah so yeah yeah so we go to our mom uh slv's the you know basement uhhuh and then we open the door there's like a bunch of locks on it but our mom's she's away she she's she's gone for the next 24 hours so me and you we break all four locks all four padlocks and then we see Barry people down there it's like it's like a guy like Shanks right he he's missing an arm but our mom implanted some Berry seeds in his arm and now he's growing vines out of it yeah and then he's like please kill me please get me out of here I can't I can't do this anymore I've been locked here for 15 years what would you do um um are like can they produce fruits let's say okay yeah let's make it twisted um so every day for for like dinner our mom would make us berry pie made from the berries from the people in the basement yo this is a horror story we should we should this is this is like a well not I was going to say AAA title like it's a video game this is a this is a box office shocker you know like nobody expected this movie to be nobody expects it this is great this there's so much like oh oh man the emotional trauma these people have been feeding me for years did it at least taste good does it taste fine or is it like Devil fruits or devil fruits tastes gross it tastes good tastes good so what would you do though like would you would you let them go um you know what okay we go we're going we're going uh um are they kids are they kids or they like I don't even know what that makes it better I was GNA say okay okay this this is a messed up hypothetical and and I don't like the position you put me in but I think the right answer is you just put the padlock back on oh you didn't see anything huh yeah you kind of just you just I don't know like because then what like you free them but like your mom turned these people into like she turned them into like so what's stopping that from happening to you because she loves us oh so if you have no but like but then your mom goes to prison right if you like expose this okay let's say like this is the best mom ever like she she's uh she's helped us time and time again like like right before you release these guys you have a flashback of when you fell from riding your bike uhhuh and your mom rushed over and gave you a Band-Aid okay so yeah that's what I'm saying like the choice to expose them means that your mom would go to prison as as a result so like the stockhom settles in uh you know the good food food you remember how great the food is started rubbing your stomach yeah yeah and then you also have to recognize that like trying to convince people that your mom turned people into fruit people is like you're fighting in so many uphill battles you lose your mom you lose good food that's some pretty core tenants to life good food good Mom I think a lot of people would keep that and then and then then people will think you're delusional for the the berry people right like oh you created these Berry people and then you're going to get gas lit too on that way so I think the right answer is you know um I I didn't see [ __ ] I didn't see [ __ ] I don't know but imagine this imagine this is like a Zoro mihawk segment where you go up to so your mom comes home and then me and you are sitting in the basement with our arms folded with the berry guy and then were're like mom teach us the ways teach us how to crossbreed I just want to point out all the times people say that I'm the one yapping in these in these calls but then also they they think that we're like six drinks in like nine blunts down like on these podcasts like just for the record we are sober like it couldn't be sober all I do is drink coffee yeah that's why I said because last episode we we cooked super hard and honestly I think it was like good like some of it was actually solid now it was Goofy sure but but then some people are like yo tell me how high you were I was like wait hold on hold on hold on me and Sai we're smoke yeah we're like nine months sober you know what I mean like this is at the crack of dawn uh you know early morning just straight up coffee and then we just hop on the call this is our true us so so I just want to point that out our realest forms so you would become the the world's strongest crossed uh crossbreeder though right that is wild that is wild um um I thought you were going to say our truest forms and then segue back to the chapter but we we keep it moving um oh oh yeah um so uh we see the Giants and they're destroying some Marine ships uhhuh and it's pretty cool but like if I was a marine I'd be so upset I I probably hold like a grudge against the Giants for the rest of my life if these guys beat me up really like I feel like it would make sense cuz like when you think about it they're shooting arrows the size of your ship no yeah but that's the thing like I don't like arrows man what why don't you like arrows so growing up I've never liked arrows okay what why why did you why did you do that wait what what's wrong with that we just went from stun lock to stun loock and you hit us with the most generic opening so back in my day when I was a kid yeah I mean it's true I never liked arrows man I think arrows are so so lame I think I would like the bow and arrows and I the swords are fine cuz I'm I'm a sword guy but I wish they had a better design or like a unique design like maybe they had some runes in it maybe had like a weird magic power to it I think that would be sick but right now it's just the regular bow arrow yeah yeah it would be cool if Oda introduced something like that here because again it's like like what the the land the planet fall happened like the all this black lightning and then it is interesting that like we see the Giants just casually afterwards just walking towards the middle you know what I mean like they're not even do they even yeah they don't even have dialogue right there Dorian brogy yeah and then the Giants behind them they just they see the lightning and they're just walking they're not even running they're Cas I think they're the most casual characters on Egghead period you know yeah like the only thing more casual was luffi eating at the microwave in the middle of the The Raid but like you know the Giants not having any uh uh uh what's it called um is it Priority no urgency not having any urgency in this moment is kind of like how hard are they going to cook and like yeah we get a notion of it at the end but like how long does that keep up you know what I mean this is some crazy behavior even l in this chapter is just like ran orzoro aren't you aren't you interested in this hockey and then like then meetwh he cut to the Giants they're like it's a normal Saturday for me you know like yeah it's it's kind of wild like you know it I do agree like how far are Dory and brogi really going to go in this fight and then not just them but like the the two giants behind them it's like are they gonna cook too like are all the gor done for like I don't know man like how strong are these dudes it's it's one thing for them to Baseline fize the buser call because for them it was just a backstroke in their in their Kingdom like oh the [ __ ] wood was in the way but it's not Adam wood right they just walked through but it's another thing to like not the adamwood scaling no it's it's but it's a completely other thing right because we know adamwood isn't uh Invincible it's not completely indestructible I like to imagine if Doran brogy used the Haku oku sovereignty on an adamwood ship it would just survive imagine the Pug Victoria it's just still standing afterwards yeah a ship of Frankie and the Frankie family can cut adamwood to make the Thousand Sunny but not the Giants Hoku sovereignty and don't forget no swordsman can cut can cut Adam mood either yeah yeah it's too powerful yeah um and and but like it's a completely other thing for them to experience the conquerors or whatever Black Lightning behind them or in front of them and just keep it moving like the Giants like completely ignoring it and hitting the ships and then the other ones are just walking towards it no dialogue nothing like it's kind of like Luffy Zoro and jimbe um um and Sanji s was yeah Sanji was there all sitting on the coast looking at greenbull you know what I mean oh yeah it's like that kind of a thing it's like damn like we know that Luffy could like yeah all of them if they all grouped together easily could take down an admiral if you added up all of them sure but now it's it's at a point where it's like yeah Luffy probably individually wasn't even worried about green bull right after what we've seen with kizaru and that's the energy we're getting here we they just see that no dude if you look at broie he has those um that little line on the top right of him that shows that he's like smiling and possibly laughing like they're having fun like these guys are kids on a vacation it's me and you going to our mom's basement okay okay in the hypothetical or in the good in the good timeline uh I I mean isn't that the good timeline I don't no I don't think so I don't think that yeah like like these guys are like kids on a vacation like they're having fun they're just going to the middle they see the Black Lightning you know they they can sense what what what when when Saturn showed up jimbe said yo this is an ominous presence we have we have that times five and these guys are chilling yeah it's like okay okay and I thought that was not even dialogue I thought that was so interesting because it's like does that mean um uh like theyve experienced like this is a summoning circle thing like they know it's a summoning circle like they've experienced that or like people on on elb are just out here displaying what the gor say of doing like casually like to have no dialogue from them either OD is like hiding it but then he adds a layer to it like you said he's laughing it it's a whole different thing of od's hiding the character like telling us information when you have the character just walking up laughing like that's kind of here's the thing you have to remember what Saul said back in Ohara these guys are savages all they care about is war like what if they see the black lightning and they're like yo we're going to fight like this is this is great like they're laughing at each other like yo like I've never seen Black Lightning this crazy like I've never felt the weird presentence we got to go fight and then plus the Sun God is there like there's so many things to look forward to this could be like Christmas for them you know like they're welome to the center and they're like happy as hell that's the other thing because like I I would expect them to have urgency and run like whether they were excited whether they were worried they're not even running they're casually walking bro what if they are running but since they're Giants to us it looks like they're walking it's like a slow motion thing in the above thing we see Giants in action look they have more urgency shooting down Marine ships with their giant bow and arrows like each Arrow takes out a ship and they're out here hopping and jumping meanwhile the other ones turned around looking at the gors say summon up oh they don't know but like they can feel the hockey maybe they don't know what hockey is like maybe that's why they can't maybe they don't know what hockey is yeah yeah yeah yeah Dory and Bru don't know what hocky is um it's invisible to them because like pre-time skip Luffy our perspective was he couldn't see it so like it's just invisible wait so all these Lightnings dude we're so dumb we didn't think of the most obvious roundout what foxy huh he used a slow slow Beam on them they're they're just they're just moving in motion is that the most obvious answer I've gotten at least 50 comments about Foxy being here on eged par you wouldn't believe it no oh okay I was gonna say I'm sorry because I really wouldn't have believed it yeah yeah I'm sorry I actually here let me go to my comment section let me let me type in foxy let me see if anybody actually brought him up recently no but the thing is you'd also have to have uh Rosen an here too for the silence like or law like someone's keeping them quiet like month ago famously the most noisy characters in the series like they cannot stop talking stop laughing stop spilling beans and they're quiet they're silent OD didn't even give us a dialogue bubble not even a sound effect to tell us like what's happening they're just casual the most casual like we got the sound effect of the giraffe swimming across the Buster like we don't have the giant say a peep it's crazy I love it it's good it it's Aura in a way yeah yeah and I'm not mad at it I'm just confused by it that's where I'm at I was like Dam we got nothing from them one month ago somebody made a joke comment saying that Foxy's about to stop the Sunny with his slow slow beam and honestly I think that's better than how the sunny actually stopped but we we'll get to that in a bit uh so after the Giants do their little um walk to arlong park we cut over to the Holy Land marija and we see a giant summoning Circle just in the middle of the room Black Lightning coming out of it and then we see a giant denden Mushi which is probably WC goodies cuz it has the mustache yeah and it's just watching the Vega Punk video and something that's kind of funny too is uh you know last chapter we talked about it but Vega Vega Punk was like Hey I want coffee but the coffee will take 10 minutes I guess we can't do it and then three minutes later they just invented Vega coffee Yeah well yeah here we go we we solved it with and with just a drop you can TR could you imagine insta coffee like that in our world where just a drop transforms water into like I would assume right not just a drop that would be like a like it's just a drop we don't have anything like that there's like a capsule that you drop into your water and you can like shake it and that's it but it's not exactly the same as a drop yeah and it's probably not as good either you know what I mean I'm assuming Vega coffee is actually like really good like when when Luffy and them had the microwave food they thought it was delicious right I'm imagining this is probably like like maybe not the best coffee in the world maybe there's some coffee connoisseur out there is like huh he couldn't possibly manual labor is the best way to make coffee right and manual labor yeah oh the guy in the basement no yo our mom's basement we can have them like cook up some coffee wait what's your favorite type of coffee then uh I I'm not I'm not a I'm not a coffee connoisseur like that I just yeah you know I I'll admit it my we went to Columbia me and my friend and he's a coffee been to coffee shops around the world I sat there and I felt like a child in chemistry class again they brought out the craziest mechanisms to make my coffee and it was like the the the person the Barista brought out like literally three and then taught me how to use one of them and I was like bro I I'm not built for this life this is not me I apologize for for uh insulting your establishment by coming in but like I kid you not it was three different Contraptions that were more complicated than anything I used in chemistry class and and um so Hey listen that person in the one piece World they they are probably still better than Vega coffee but it is kind of cracked with just a drop on it look Starbucks would kill Starbucks might kill Starbucks is watching the video call and and trembling like oh my God this guy with just one drop he's going to put us out of business and he made this in what two minutes two three minutes yeah dude give Vega Punk five years to make coffee oh it'd be over it'd be over it'd be so over he'd have said years of of of coffee because there's so much to the coffee world like we have to give some respect to them right coffee beans like listen like in our world there's people I think it's Wakka Flocka Flame he he tried cat poop uh was it cat poop or rat poop I think it's cat cat poop yeah and it was Walka Flocka flp I remember that yeah yeah yeah so and he said it was delicious and this is the most expensive and rarest coffee in the world I I think it's in in Tibet there's also rat poop coffee too as well they're they're like not like rats they're like different rodents but Hey listen in our world poop is is a delicacy and I would imagine Vega Punk would dabble in in in some of that [ __ ] you know um and but this um I think the most impressive thing about all of this is that Vega Punk did the UN like we were all trembling we were all worried but Vega Punk did something even more unprecedented which was the fastest three minutes of any 10-minute timer period yeah yeah he he trailblazed it everyone was worried oh no 10 minutes how many chapters is going to be Vega Puck said a coffee and a and a few panels what are you talking about guys three minutes can go by easily if you have a genius on the other end of it right so so I appreciated that that was pretty solid so it's been half a chapter since Vega Punk said he would put a 10-minute timer on this yeah yeah yeah cuz uh so halfway into chapter 1109 he says 9 and a half minutes so you go down half a chapter after that two and a half minutes have passed then yeah cuz only seven minutes are left yeah dude this is this is a fast timer yeah and I'm not I'm not worried any yeah so much has happened outside of that too but you know what I when you cuz like I haven't had the chance to like fully sit with this thing cuz I was editing a video right after uh but looking at this thing in reaction I was Ming because it's kind of funny that the summoning circle is there in the first place which does that mean that the summoning circle's still on the ship that Saturn like is it still glowing and there that's one part right because I guess the summoning circle is only active while the one on the other side's active but I was thinking what if the summoning Circle stays and then ainu because ainu is technically there no he's at marida and like he is there we've seen him walk into this room and so like and it's usually after like whatever thing because they call him and what if he just shows up and he just sees this he's like what he's like what is this and he just comes out on the side like isyu kind of oh man yeah he he steps on the circle and he gets teleported over here yeah that would be so cursed that would be insane man but if it doesn't work like that and it's just a summoning Circle for them I would like to imagine that when the gors go home I I would want to see like other characters in the room waiting for them saying hey how did it go or maybe U like sitting there like hm how was the mission you know yeah yeah yeah fail and emu is like about to like Slaughter all of them CU that'd be crazy right oh like I mean once we get later on to the chapter we see the the portrayal od's giving and it's like it's great but there is a world where it's like it's a little it's not a downstep when we get the context it'll make more sense but there is a world where emu could just like be upset be upset that they were like emu's watching the video you know what I mean and just like are you serious guys like this is I leave you guys for one second you guys choose to summon yourself over there why didn't you ask me you know what I mean like where was my decision in this you guys imagine emu tries to L Lu egad Island even with the goray there he's like yeah you guys have failed yeah I mean we don't even know like what what you know but what there is one thing that is um debunk a little bit is the astral projection bodies remaining on things so like these are these are the gor say these are their bodies unless I guess we could have like some weird fake out but like it would be weird it almost feels like Oda show this panel specifically to debunk that like overarching idea around the gorset because he it's seems like Odo wants us to better understand the gor I don't like it's not we're not in silhouette game anymore he's straight up showing us he's naming it he's giving us abilities he's doing it all and so you like we have to ask ourselves like the big questions like okay Oda pulled back the V on the goray but we still have dragon we still have emu we still have like these characters that are in that VE for some reason but the goray are not and the gor's reveals are insane and and so it is interesting I wonder how emu will receive all of this situation cuz that's their captain in a lot of ways so we got to see we got to see what happens yeah I'm I'm excited for the holy Knights now like like you said we don't know what dragon is uh we don't know about emu and those are really the only characters we don't know much about yet but the holy Knights man we don't even we don't know what they look like yeah yeah I know true this is true holy nights do fit in that in that bubble um and it's a it's a cool bubble now like the bubble's getting cooler and cooler but it's also I'm also worried at the same time but it's like it's like 2008 you know the financial crash bubble it's a cool bubble but when that pops man we could be really disappointed in the Holy nights or or Oda builds them up like the thing is that there's so many ways against it we see in this chapter how like the straw hats are in like a like a bubble to where it's like we have too many and not a a lot of them get focused and we're like grabbing at the breadcrumbs like the crumbling of the thing like oh my God Usopp did something oh my God but it's like not like everybody I could have done it you know what I mean like at that point I could have stopped a Thousand Sunny too yeah I mean like it's not like Nami could have done it Brook Brooke could have done it and stop and then and then Chopper has three ways of doing it uh jimbe could have lifted the ship because Tom could lift ships like it's not I'm not that worried um yeah and then we just gave it to usap shore but like my point is is that when we get these bigger and bigger groups some of the characters fall through the cracks I don't want the holy nights to happen like that way but the Toby Roo right the scabbards these are the groups the the nine groups right like and and it's just kind of sad I I I'm praying I'm praying we're in the good timeline for them one thing that's interesting about the Holy Knights or not the holy Knights the goray is that when the gors get teleported over here I'm surprised it's just one big Circle in the Holy room and not like four mini circles cuz that that's kind of what I was expecting yeah that's what I was cuz the flip side is like did that mean that like when Saturn said I'm going to summon you they were like and they had to joke each other guys huddle huddle they had to throw like the ginu force type of thing like you know like yeah they had a pose yeah and then also did do you think that they like did they transform into their forms before coming through because it kind of feels like it they showed up with their forms coming out so that means that not only they have to jump off of the couch they're like Power Rangers assemble Dino Force activated and then they like turned into their thing and then the summoning Circle brought them through and they're all just like looking at each other you know like they're like yeah I think I think they know how to time it perfectly like an animation cancel so they they started transforming while they were being summoned animation cancels crazy the they just started halfway so so it perfectly like Falls in with this no that's wild they're they're Pro players they're they're bringing out the Challenger mechanics teleport mid teleport animation alt transformation cancel like that's crazy yeah you know it so with with them coming here though we do get confirmation that all of their circles have different numbers yes which I love that dude we got I I don't know why it's it's like a typical Shonen thing but I love it when they number the bad guys we saw this at uh what alabasta with Baroque Works mhm like Mr 5 4 3 2 one and zero so now we have it here with Saturn being five uh itsumade number four hioki number three botu number two and then sandworm number one yeah do you think that correlates to strength or where do you fall with that one I think strength makes the most sense but like at the end of the day we don't don't even know what strength means for like Saturn isn't like when I think of Saturn and how I would rank him strength isn't necessarily there like it's regenerating and whatever so like I don't know how like you know what you know what's actually accurate it would be cp9 where it's like Saturn is fukuoku fuku yeah like the the dorii scale yeah like he he gets he's a sandbag we've said this so many times and so was fukuro he was a he was he got punched he was the Dragon Ball Z punch scaler except he would spit out the numbers instead of like a machine and Saturn is a sandbag and then we have Jabra we have Khalifa We have Kaku we have uh uh uh Luchi right and it's like after Saturn yeah there's a strength thing so like maybe it it's related to that I guess it could be like it would be crazy if Oda hit us with the dqi but like none of these like one FES one's a boar I don't even know what the value is of transforming into a yo-kai boore um the the horse is cool skeleton horse is cool and then the sandworm if anything like it might be the the ratings is like the most useful I don't know I I don't even know like but jup I feel like there was a like Jupiter it maybe his size of the planets maybe is Mercury Mercury is the smallest oh no Saturn's huge so yeah Saturn and Jupiter are like close yeah yeah so I I don't even know because it would be what realistically it would be Mercury Venus Mars Saturn than Jupiter if it was size I guess I don't know it's it is all interesting um I would imagine yeah like the the Shonen Trope is just power power right and we do kind of see that reflected here where it's like sand worm is fighting Luffy right so Luffy always gets the strongest one that's kind of folling here and then but then we have the itsumade going up right and then the botu is technically on a course for Sanji if Sanji is meeting up with Bonnie and Frankie on the coast otherwise botu is going to meet up with Bonnie and Frankie which I I don't know what that would mean um and we don't even know what the Hoke is doing technically the Hoke bro he's chilling I looked at him so the so if you go down the chapter when we see uh Saturn and jupeter attack you see the Hoke just in the back chilling yeah and it's also funny Gio tweeted and I this got a good chuckle out of me this morning he said someone check on Saturn bro hasn't moved in like since last chapter and he's right it's just Saturn hasn't said anything hasn't moved he's attacking though he's attacking yeah I mean I guess he's going like this but like his face is still like he's even his eyes he's still like lobotomized yeah yeah he hasn't even acknowledged his friends since the coming do you think that they are talking telepathically this entire time yeah I I think they're in a group chat it's either they're in a group chat or I do think that they have one of the best synergies I've seen in a minute yeah because they literally show up and they know what to do right like they like imagine they're not in the group chat they're just they just showed up here and then boom like what Marcus flies up ho I guess hoki and um Saturn don't do anything but jupeter attack Luffy botu is like running around killing the pacifista it's like these guys like they're on a mission like I'm actually impressed by how fast they're executing their job like they they know they have no time to waste yeah so I really love that aspect where the botu like St Venus he surprised me I laughed when he like cuz again this is the this is my favorite part he show they all show up in their form and the skeleton horse goes nay and that's their war cry not the bird not the the serpent bird not the Demonic worm not the boar we don't even give a role to the boar which is the the boar is supposed to be making like a war cry sound I'm pretty sure like warthogs and stuff like that and his name is wary come on yeah come on but we give it to the horse he goes nay and that's terrifying sure right but he just beines he just starts running no no words nothing no conversation just into the forest and that's the wildest part he just beines Tuma and then I was like oh sh did this makes sense he's so efficient right like the the kumas the pacifistas were a a liability and asset that need to be like repoed and and Frozen from Vega Punk and he's the finance guy and he's supposed to be doing that that was what the Marines were like a US hitting our own tools that's a that's a a dent in our pockets our our banks our bank account is hurting after every pacifista is getting slammed right and so he takes it upon him no words nothing he just runs and does it I'm like okay I like this this is great and like you said then we have itsumade no words just dive bomb straight into the thing nobody told him about like what this barrier does or how it works because remember Saturn showed up and he was asking Kazar like do you think you can go through this thing like that's what this is right but remember he itum is the agriculture guy at least Saturn's the man of science so the agriculture guy just doesn't ask questions he's like barrier I'm going to run straight through it guys wait is Marcus Mars agriculture I thought that was jupeter oh yeah yeah yeah what is Mars Mars is environment environment oh so maybe maybe laser Dome fits into his you know his environment yeah yeah you know oh maybe we get the Marcus Mars flashback and he grew up in a laser Dome yeah yeah yeah yeah like he like he technically the laser Dome is a soft uh bird cage right yeah and that was kind of my head Cannon was like he's going up there and he's gonna have a bird cage because doof flamingo's bird cage was the one it it was able to lock in signals so dendon mushies couldn't call in or out of the bird cage so if we have a bird going up there and if he had a bird cage ability and he wanted to stop the the transmission from going out and they assumed it was from labace he's the perfect man for it and this could be great but you know you know he he again his his observation hockey told him I need to go up to the sky and just straight into kind of skipped over it too but uh design wise so so two things design wise and then like the whole thing with like Devil fruits demon forms whatever but design wise how do you feel about them like who's your favorite who's your least favorite like like how do you feel about these guys uh favorite is botu uh I think second slash easily could go up is the sandworm because I just like the idea of it um yeah and uh yeah it ties to agriculture thing cuz he's Jupiter and that's the the worm agriculture that kind of stuff um and then it would have to be itsumade and then you know this is slanderous but I'm GNA give it to hokei over Saturn because I'm just disappointed really C doesn't have webs dude can we get once we get webs I'll live but Hoke's just a boore and he's hasn't disappointed me yet cuz he hasn't done anything he's the safest gor member he's just not doing a single thing Saturn showing up in 1095 or whatever chapter it was is more impressive than what I'm looking at in this chapter like he declined in a thing he's a yes he's the ox demon there's no yeah like technically there's no spider in the name but there's spider in the USI Oni thing and so we're giving him a spider where's the webs with where's the bull stuff he hasn't even charged anyone he hasn't even done bull things you know what I mean like he he's just like I don't even know what animal he is at this point spiders don't do this either like he it's just a weird thing he's more like Wan at this point w was using Ramen and doing the same things honestly more impressively so because it was from his nose like he had to eat the ramen and shoot it out of his nose to control it and he made it a battle Mecca out of ramen Saturn's out here like I don't even know it's he's lower than W in impressiveness no no come on I I I think think I would agree with you for the most part though yeah yeah for me I think ituma would be number one uh sandworm would be number two I'd probably put botu number three and then Saturn number four but it's hard I I I kind want to give Saturn number three cuz I I don't really care too much for the horse design but but seeing the hybrid form really sold me though what if it is decaying Flesh on his on the the horse like it's it's like melted because when you look at him transforming back into Gandhi it looks like that skin just turns into his face you know so like would that add to it if it's like a flaming decaying zombie like horse thing would that raise it up it depends on the skin color what skin color would you prefer human flesh cuz when I imagine a Zombie horse I think of like green or like rotten flesh from like a classic zombie so if it's green or something like that I wouldn't like it that's why I prefer if it was cloth because it could be red even human skin I think is still gross like no matter what color it is I guess it be black because it reminds me of um so so this is a random tangent but have you ever watched like uh Jenny the teenage robot or um Teen Titans even yeah both yeah so in both of those shows there's like an episode where in one Jenny wants to become a human so like they make this human skin for her to put on and I hated that and then same for Teen Titans where cyborg wanted his faceback so he put on fake skin and in both of those shows there's like a scene where like their skin melts off and I think it's really gross looking so I I'm not a big fan of decaying flesh Cy I would prefer if this was just like red cloth like horse armor and then even like classic deay decaying flesh where it's green I hate that so yeah like the only way way I would really like bosu's like clothy design is if it was red I I don't I don't like the decaying flush I think it's uh I don't know G I i' say it's more gross looking than anything it's not like unsettling it's just gross you know I just realized the horse has hair too but Gandhi does not have hair so that's kind of funny that like in his hybrid form he has like a beautiful M and it's like a prime yeah like technically he could always be in high form and just have his hair like have like long luscious hair while he's in Gandhi form that'd be crazy if that was like like you know how we say like Zoro with the bandan the top like that's like ash catch him turning his hat around like maybe Gandhi's the strongest when he's in his human form but just has horse hair be now then if you look at it all of the gors have hair except for jupeter in their forms I I don't know if that's hair on the back of hokei but it it kind of looks like it also his name's hiyi I keep on saying hokei like the Hoke pokei yeah yeah oh it's hiyi yeah yeah that is interesting they all do yeah except for the sand worm maybe he does have hair and it's just like small you know like worms I think have small hairs on them oh yeah yeah yeah okay little heers so maybe maybe that's why because Jupiter has lots of hair right and no no Jupiter is sanji's dad never mind never mind never mind sanji's dad it'd be funny if we see like he has like a goatee or something like that like he still looks like Sanji that's the weird thing right it's like like Saturn is in his like newest form but we can still tell it's Saturn right but none of the other Transformations you can tell who it is and that's kind of weird to me you know what I mean because then it's like wait does Saturn have a full transformation and we just have it be like a black Maria thing where black Maria is supposed to look like a full spider but apparently she like modified her fruit to like change her appearance maybe Saturn's the same way where like he's like hey I don't like looking like a giant spider so I'm going to you know I'm going to retain some of my Humanity I I'll keep think I think black Maria never went into her full thing but it was because her hybrid form she was like like I think the Nuance is like Chopper can use his fruit different ways and so it's like she used a drug to force her hybrid form to look in a different way but that also just implies that she's as bad at her devil fruit too because like Queen was out here doing some crazy stuff with his devil fruit and yeah he like modified himself but Chopper you know he doesn't need to use the rumble balls anymore and he can transform differently but like I think the Nuance was black Maria thought the full form was super ugly so she couldn't she never transformed that she wanted to use the drug to stay in a beautiful hybrid form which Fair we I I prefer what we got that that we did but yeah like like the itsuma for example the actual yo-kai has a human face and instead said we get the bird face and I'm like but we have the human hair which is interesting or like the hair I don't know what we're getting honestly good designs to be honest yeah it's all cool but then I'm like how do we get a hybrid worm like what is that that's cursed right or is this the hybrid what if it's like Orochi Maru where the minute jupeter goes hybrid like another head pops out from inside the mouth like his real head I think that' be I think that' be so sick I could see that actually like the tongue there's a there's a yo-kai like that I I don't know the name of it where it's like a serpent and then inside the serpent is like a human head yeah yeah yeah that would be kind of sick yeah not like Jeter's a yo-kai but you know it could be a nice twist yeah and the thing is like we see what hybrid looks like from the botu we see multiple forms it's like the centur and then he like his head is transforming out right like and then we see the full form so it it's interesting cuz then it's like Saturn maybe has one more transformation do you if you were like a okay I mean assuming these guys are even Z but um if you were like a Zone user like if you had the botu fruit for example do you think you'd be able to like spawn your head anywhere on the horse or do you think it would have to be where Venus spawned it I think you could be you could uh have full if you're good at your fruit you can do whatever you want that's what I think yeah because I just imagine a scenario where you so so he becomes a centaur in this chapter right and he's like skirting around doing his thing and he's he's walking on air which is crazy uhhuh he he's essentially flying but I'm like yo like if he ever touches down on the ground could he transform one of his legs into his bald head and then start like spinning around in circles that's kind of where I'm at right now yeah I mean shotting cuz he thought that that's how it worked he was slingshotting his face they turned into helicopter like yeah not ice skating bald head what else is what else is useful about a bald head right like skating he be like like there's a reason why I'm bald and then he does like a crazy spin top attack yeah and then exactly and then we find out why he doesn't just grow himself hair right you want to know the most curs thing about a centur what has two rib cages oh really yeah because it has the horse body so the rib cage is down here and then also the human body so there's two rib cages that's kind of cool I like rib cages though yeah I guess you know I think have I told you about that person has their own uh like you know fetish right yeah yeah I really like the rib cage idea where like you would have a chair made out of rib cages so that it it kind of like you know encases you it's like a constant hug is that an idea whose idea was this so I was reading uh it's a Japanese thing called the human chair uh-huh where like some like there was like a serial killer it's it's fictional I believe but um okay it was it was like a serial killer who like killed his victims and then stuffed their bones inside of a chair yeah and then I I I took that and I was like wow like that's such a interesting idea like you know what a rib cage chair would go really hard because it would be like you're constantly being hugged just put some nice cushions on it it' be sick yeah you know famous he said by a sane person and healthy mentally stable it is it is from a book it is from a book yeah we should check the author on that one like check couches it's straight out of Japan um so yeah these don't seem to be devil for Transformations it looks like they're actual Devils or demons or the progenitors perhaps uh where do you fall with this like like do you enjoy this do you do you hate it because let me tell you dude I was I was there for the spoilers bro and there were people who were in disbelief they they could not believe this whatsoever and I understand it right because this kind of uproots everything that we know it's like oh like this entire series we we've had Z and devil fruits the fact that they're real Transformations it's too crazy yeah but I'm glad this is happening and I I believe it thank you Oda I mean this makes are sick sense to me like flashback to pre-a era I was I have multiple videos saying that we would get characters that depict like top tier devil fruit Powers whe whether it's zoen even loia even paramia and they wouldn't have devil fruits and that was called devil seed users but then also I had a Zoro video that was saying that we would get characters uh that would also and but kotu is kind of showing it to us like slashing without slashing but like I know that that's like an alabasta thing but what I was saying is like like spiritual slashing type of things and it kind of feels kind of similar to that because it seems like botu is using some kind of he's freezing the thing and that's tied to the underworld stuff in my opinion because he's a skeleton Brooke using Frozen thing I feel like there's too many connection points for that specific ability being used um and and it is interesting and you know in that same video I was saying they're like hey like Zoro is out here using Ichi gorilla and he's morphing his body with no devil fruit and we have other characters that are able to do similar things and it's like hey some where down the line uh oh oh and then a video before kosaburo came out I was saying like I think that devil fruits would have Wills in them and just like how swords have wheels in them and then we got the swords having Wheels in them canonically from kosaburo and then later on from 1044 we got the the the gor say saying there's wheels and devil fruits and so that's where I'm kind of like hey you know from the jump I was saying like this to me doesn't feel like devil fruit um if it were devil fruit I I wouldn't be mad but now we have yeah like we can't ignore the the the complete uh uh like off course we're going off course from oda's pattern of like hey when blackb showed up devil fruit names straight up that's what we got and here we are they we're getting everything we see that full forms nothing's being hidden and yet Oda doesn't give us a devil fruit names so that I think it's kind of it's simple they're not the devil fruits they're the devil seeds or you know if you if you don't like that term they're the progenitors and that's what I felt like with n it's like there was a there was a NAA that existed just like kaido there used to be a dragon that had its lineage Factor extracted and we know that that's a possibility because Momo's fruit exists and somehow Vega Punk extracted the lineage factor from kaido's devil fruit and got Momos yeah it's a different color but it's like we we get we have gotten this concept like there's Source material and then boom we have like the the the the scientific or magical or whatever route whether whatever whatever the devil fruit uh rationale is by the end of it cuz wano calls it sorcery uh Fishman calls it a curse whatever it is um it would make sense to me that like hey the goray put out the propaganda about devil fruits they're doing experiments about it um so if they were the devil fruit users and they were like from the original like group of devil fruits they would probably not need to experiment the way they would they they at least Saturn's depicting so if they were the actual yo-kai and they're trying to study what the devil fruits are about and they're a little confused and you know they're like oh man it seems like the NAA has been uh uh running away from us and I guess it's because it's will right it it feels like they don't know everything about Del fruits and so a lot of context clues led to this understanding now two chapters ago I believe it was where it was kind of when uh Saturn transformed into this and it felt like the Zone Awakenings and impel down that I was kind of like okay maybe they are double fruits but this chapter I think completely 180 completely there's no doubt in my mind that they're probably just the original demons which I like a lot that's that's where I'm yeah it's yeah that's where I'm at now and I just went back to uh the recent chapter like when when I talked about it I looked through the comments and there are a lot of comments that's are saying that these are still just devil fruits yeah but um I like I was there too like I I started off when Saturn first arrived saying that he's not a regular transformation I I thought that this was something completely different and then I eventually came to you know like two chapters ago when we saw the impel down St Saturn I was like oh yeah this is this is probably a devil fruit but now that we're here in this chapter it's like I've I've 180 like you and I'm I'm like yo these are actual just demons yeah and I don't blame people either because like I to this day that or first Zoro video it's like one of my first theories the thumbnail is natural Z and the point of it like we're going to see characters that probably you know uh they don't need a devil fruit to do these crazy things and this is way crazier than I even imagined at that time um because I was just thinking tigers and gorillas and normal stuff but like you we're getting yo-kai um and um I thought that was crazy but like you go back to that video devil seed user uh devil fruits are training wheels for pecky like all those videos it leads to some not of this if not directly This and like here's the other part of it too cuz like some people are rational rationalizing this as like okay they are the yo-kai and they ate a human fruit and they turned into humans but I don't even think that's necessary either because that's a core like thing for yo-kai and monsters in general across the world is that like in the fiction we gave them human form so that they can trick and assimilate to humanity and that's how they whether it's jins or whether it is Japanese Yokai a lot of them just have human forms that are either to trick uh seduce what like what what have you with the way uh you know taking control of human sin that's kind of what it was is like they they'd have human forms to take advantage of those things so these human forms could just be that you know and and even in like like U European lore it didn't even they a lot of the monsters were and I say European L because they're Saints a lot like they have the Vatican stuff they have like a lot of Roman ties so even like an Arthurian Legend King Arthur uh a lot of their monsters shape shifted it didn't even matter what it was it was just they just shape shifted they could turn into any human um so I don't even think that they need a human fruit to show off what they could it's literally they could just be the yo-kai and damn dude yeah it it' be simple as that if that's the case I I agree with you I I I do believe that's the case too but just imagine saying hey I'm the hokei or hiyi and I'm going to transform into a bald dude with a big mustache like like that that would be the interesting part because um there like there's a complete uh uh separation but I know a lot of people have like the kaguya idea with emu and not that emu is kaguya but like the story of kaguya gagua Princess kaguya being one of the like foundational stories folks LS from Japan uh Co princess KAG had suitors and a lot of people have a theory that like the gor say are suitors for emu but which is like really weird at this point if we think emu is a kid and maybe even a dude and like now we have these old men but like hey even that kind of fits with like the church and stuff like that I don't know if you guys read about the the church and their scandals but uh old men and little boys in the same after school programs maybe not the best idea at this point but but you know the overarching point is um the gors have made questionable decisions in the past I wouldn't put a past their weird forms right maybe they're they're looking like like like if emu isn't the original but like a child of the neurona family maybe that's the case for all of them right nusa Juro Juro I think means like or no JW Peter's 10th no nusa Juro is also like 10th sun or something like that right something I think it's something like something Sun not the oldest son but like one of the younger Sons or something like that I feel like that was what some people said yeah I'm not exactly too sure I did Nasi jur a lore like a long time ago but it's all past me now yeah yeah yeah out um as far as the goray though like I I I do think it's really cool how the celestial dragons see themselves as Gods but they have these devil fruits or not devil fruits but devil forms and then somebody pointed out too where like it's the same thing that could be said for Na and even s Goku because they're Gods but they're devil fruits yeah like yeah I like I like how that's like all flipped around yeah like like this could also go back to like there's a short I made um saying like it could be that they have the blessings of emu emu being God and so like their blessings are ironic like instead of being cursed with devil fruits they're blessed with these forms and these are like their happy about it which is like if like if you go back to like Khalifa and Kaku when they tasted their or had their fruit and they were trying to figure out what their powers was right they were individually happy I think Kaku likes giraffes and Khalifa was attuned to her power in the first place and really knew how to use the soap stuff right but imagine they got something cursed like this I think most humans would be like what the hell am I I'm a monster so sick no dude come on I mean Momo even even if I was the hiyi I I think I'd be kind of cool with that I think the only character like Momo right when Momo ate his uh the dragon fruit he was upset because he ate the fruit of his father's murder he basically became his entire country's like uh oppressor dictator murderer like thing like that and so now he use that symbol but pink which is you know take that how you will so maybe Momo would eat one of these like ah at least I'm not looking like kaido right but honestly that fruit did wonders for for Momo in the grand scheme of things uh but yeah with the with the the the the portrayal here I do think it is crazy like on the surface level I think most people react to this and go like wow we're not not Silhouettes this is real like we have the gors OD to name them showed them they're doing things like we are in the last Saga and this is the first Arc and we already have the gors we don't have any we don't have we don't have emu not even the closest we don't even know what emu looks like just an eyeball maybe a glove if you take the anime for for what it is and then uh dragon we we don't even know we don't even know what the tattoo is about but we have all all of the forms and it was kind of Bittersweet in a little in a in a weird way I I remember telling you I forget if it was on stream or off stream but um the way Oda showed them it's not the same level as big mom and kaido cuz big mom and kaido had like individual terrifying introductions big mom like her salival was disintegrating things and she was eating people and then we get into her Island she's like taking people's souls and and this like Twisted thing she ate her mom like crazy stuff and sure that was the backstory but like what I'm saying is the introduction was like heavy right and same thing with kaido we had an individual introduction prior all that stuff whereas here we're kind of getting more of a commander introduction where we get one Commander like Cracker or Jack the weakest Commander if Saturn's number five we're getting the weakest zoray and then later on we get the Toby Ropo in full showing with the sweet commanders in full showing we get the calamis in full showing they just group up and we see like the title cards and that's what we get here where it's like all of them just got are showing out together and they're getting like a commander feel and it makes emu feel even scarier but it also worries me a little bit about the gors because it's like if that's the route well like besides the calamities you know I don't know if anyone's scoffing at the Toby Ropo and and the reason why I'm saying that is because if it's the same like separation where U's kaido the gor say are the calamities well nobody's nobody's Ming on King like that yeah like his brain knowledge whatever but like at the end of day he's still terrifying but below them is the Toby Ropo and below the gorday is also a group of Nine the holy Knights and that's where I'm on the fence of and I think we did talk about this where it's like um where it could be like at least if we're getting crazy demons for the goray and for the calamities it's like we got crazy dinosaurs and then the Toby ROP were like less crazy dinosaurs they got like normal stuff that might be the case with the goray where it's like at least we could maybe extrapolate yeah emu is going to be insane insane uh uh yo-kai right like if the dinosaurs led to a dragon then these yo-kai lead to Crazy emu but then on the flip side that means that the holy Knights might be modeled after like regular not regular but like like common com lesser demons I think and and like on stream we were like I think you said like Goatman and I was like I I don't know about Goatman but like you know there's some other ones but I really like that idea and we kind of get that with the that one Holy Night guy with like the The Mask we don't know if it's a mask but he has like the Jackal head and that's kind of yo-kai or like American monster esque you know so there there's a there's an interesting pocket I just hope that the holy Knights don't go the way of like the Toby Ropo and the scabbards right I don't think they will I don't even think the gorus say will either I I feel like um while I do agree like their initial showing here it it seems very uh Yono Commander esque yeah or tobo ropey esque uh I is crazy disrespect yo you know how it is um I I I I think I think they they have a way better initial portrayal than all those groups yeah yeah I I think that's the way of shown in like each group it's like going from doflamingo to then kotak Curry to then King right like kak Curry's showing was he flicked a jelly bean and was like was like huh how did he Dodge it right whereas like next we go to King and his first thing is kicking big mom ship twice off the thing and that's wild right that's like insane and like Saturn I mean it wouldn't be comparable to say Saturn here because it' be cracker cracker had a better showing against Luffy than Saturn did against Luffy in my opinion and that's where I'm kind of like but at least at least at least the botu at least St St Venus is doing some crazy stuff right he's the only one we can really say that for because the other ones kind of do stuff but they're not like insane like Bonnie made it through the barrier so the itsumade making through the barrier is no Briner if Bonnie can the ituma shouldn't even be phased right um yeah it might even be problematic to see that ituma have to like regenerate from going through it because Bonnie made it through completely fine no issue and it's just Bonnie it's a 12-year-old girl like at the end of the day the itsumade needs to go through with no scar right and then also with the sandworm I obviously we're going to get there but a lot of people made the thing it's like hey the sandworm got the same treatment as the the island eater and nobody scales up the island eater so it's like H yeah they're getting good showing but like not not like unfettered you know what I mean it's kind of there's a besides St Venus there's not like even in this chapter it's kind of it's a little Topsy Turvy a little Topsy Turvy they're cool though don't get me wrong they're cool yeah yeah I'd say all the gors are really cool I really like their showing here except for probably Hill Cube because we just don't see anything yeah and Saturn because he hasn't landed a blow yet but everybody else man they looking pretty sick yeah but here's the thing you know last thing I want to compare with the Toby Roo and these guys when the Toby Roo first appeared they weren't really doing much bro like Let Me Tell You Drake was over here getting his his his [ __ ] kicked in by Queen who was it was Queen and um who's who they were the ones who beat Drake sasuki got tied to a tree uh like black Murray was drinking with kaido like they did nothing on this level where you know they're over here slashing past aista running through a barrier like I I'd say these guys are looking pretty solid but going back to the what Saturn's chapters prior to who's Saturn because I would argue Saturn sat alone is more embarrassing than all of what you said of the Toby Roo because because like my man got touched by everybody my man has so little instills so little fear that five of him don't even make the G uh the the the Giants run you know what I mean like the Toby Roo I don't know they at least they like come on like no no no like yes I agree Saturn hasn't had the best showing but I still think it's better than the Toby Ropo but I think the the problem with that is that we didn't expect that much from the Toby Ropo right right and that Saturn we do that that's why it's different that's why it's different that's why it's worse because like I just said it we expected more but not only is that expectation not met and our coping mechanism is I hope the other four goray are good I hope but that's the thing though like for it okay put put who's who in this situation we be like yo who's who's doing crazy work like he's trying his best but like I I think the problem is is that for aor say like Saturn we just expect a lot more like our bar is a lot higher but if this was an average character like a Toby Roo guy we would look at Saturn and be like yo he you know he did really good he did good out on the field I would argue that who's who versus jimbe was more was less embarrassing than Kuma versus Saturn where it's like okay but here's the thing who is who like he didn't die but he lost that fight Saturn is at least still up and kicking yeah I agree with the Saturn slander because you know I'll be the first Saturn does not look good here but I don't think he looks that bad you know like on a scale of 1 to 10 he's like at a he's like at a three or four but but that's gor who who is like a one that's last Saga tax that's gor tax that's that's mythical not even zoen that's just mythical tax like of course he should be showing up we got to wait for the One V one for this guy like like how many One V ones can he have what do you mean well we need to fight to the death part we need like a you know like oh the winner of the the central lobe of EAD Island Saturn loses you know jimbe wins you know something like that like we need a full-blown fight with this guy we need to like put him down you know like right now it's just like little skirmishes here and there I've never seen more of an open Target than Vega punk in the latter half of this Arc you like I'm saying a Yono his commanders they're defending him and I still think I could have walked up to Vega Punk and killed him and somehow Saturn failed that he he couldn't even kill him with a giant like his Stab Wound went is his entire body you know what I mean and he still needed Kazar to clean that up that's to be fair VAP Punk was gonna die you know that that kill it killed VAP Punk the attack killed VAP Punk if it was why didn't he take credit with the other gor say why did he push that on Karo why didn't he say I stabbed him I because he wants to make look why didn't he use Venom why didn't he just put the you brought that point up last week he now now I'm on now I'm on the defensive for Saturn so the reason he didn't use Venom was because it wasn't ready yet oh yeah he needs prep time for his God he needs prep time my God he needs to he needs to get a stirring pot and [ __ ] and dip his toes manually that's how the Venom Works he's a yeah it's it's like the Chinese scorpions yeah oh my god dude I like listen I know I'm sounding like a hater but like it I think it's valid that like like the gor are showing up and the botu did stuff and that shouldn't be a w you know what I mean his W is running really fast in slicing robots and freezing them with hacks abilities like technically can't Brooke do that after time skip like Brooke is not that weak either if he's fighting just no way Brooke could do this not maybe not all of them but like I would imagine Brook can you think Brook can go through and and tap the pacifista one pacifista he could freeze okay one yeah yeah yeah yeah one one sure not 25 literally half of them are deactivated okay and that's the gor no world did I think like what we're saying right now is like Brooke facing off big Mom no one thought that he would do that but he did and it's like at that point it's like he shouldn't be like like these guys are showing up and doing things that like yeah Luffy could eat all of the pacifistas in one soup he could just get really big and scoop them all up Z are we worried that Zoro could do this you know what I mean like Zoro could do this too he couldn't freeze him but like yeah Zoro could beat the pacifista like it's but Brooke can't though he could knock them out I think Zoro is so strong that he could probably just like Snap their necks like with the back of his sword you know like when he like was it in whiskey Peak was he using the back of his sword the whole time or is that the anime saying that I forget uh I don't know I feel like Zora is strong enough where he could just knock them out like and put them out of commission That's How Strong he is and what I'm saying but that doesn't that doesn't demean that botu is pretty strong though okay he's pretty strong but we're going back to like like the goras right is here and then like the Toby Roo were here and the gor are having like similar portrayal is what I'm saying and it's not necessarily a bad thing but now I'm I am on the boat that maybe yumu is insane right like if you were to create the the disparity of like the calamities could all do you think queen king and Jack could beat kaido no right and so like I'm I'm enjoying that part maybe emu dog walks them right that's cool I like that idea now and then the other part is like like at least the other the other cope that people had for the gors were like when I say cop a little rudely because I was coping just from a different angle it was that these are all Astro projections but we now know that that's not the case this is actually them too and then they show up and one of them get sliced in half in yeah regeneration one of them shows up and gets beaten by every single person punched through the wall bleeding oh if I wanted to dodge Bonnie I would and then like proceeds to get hit by every single person Karen Devon walks up loves Taps him he's like what why did you do that and they leave he misses van auger Dodge hey hey like I said he's he's not he does he hasn't had the best betrayal but it's not the worst yeah it it could have been way worse I have a question do you think okay see I was thinking that there was a world before this chapter came out they showed up in their human forms and I was thinking you know how Saturn has the force ability like he actually did stop Luffy for a moment right and he did stop Sanji and Frankie all together all by himself that was probably his greatest feat was doing that and then thereafter we never saw him do it ever again when cter Devon and Van auger dodged he should have used it there but I was thinking like what if all five of them like forced Luffy do you think they could lock him down like that cuz I feel like that might be more efficient of use of their power using the force using the force to hold down Luffy that thing was incred that thing was crazy it was holding down Sanji yeah but I don't know if that's just a a guki ability or not though yeah like I'm assuming that's just guki related you think so you don't think that the rest of them have them because it's a part of like the the iion lore so do you think that the transformation not the the transportation circles do you think that's Saturn cuz science or whatever or because there's one Circle do you think that that was just Saturn if it was five separate ones you think it was them I'm kind of just asking to see how to separate what we saw of Saturn yeah to to the rest of them and like it's weird because like I feel like the circles could be Saturn but like the for thing I feel like that's something they probably all have um no I I think I think the circle is something they all have I'm like the opposite of you I I think the circle is something they all have and then I think uh the holding down part is just the guki since it has to do with his mythology yeah it's but okay so then when Saturn says I'll summon you yeah like does doesn't that mean that like they didn't do like he summoned them right he made all the separate circles and then in the room it was wasn't separate circles so like can they all do it I'm not against you because I would like it if the holy Knights for example could do their own summoning circles I would like it if there's more magic I've I've been saying that right but I also it's weird with the context it's like he said I'll summon you instead of them them doing it themselves right so it's like do you think I mean Saturn's the one that's Saturn's the one that's here so I think he like you have to be summoned to a place you can't just summon yourself to Egghead Island you need like somebody there like it's like a connection case it's because he was close enough that he could do it you don't think that like like he could do it to any is like because then it's a weird I think he can do it to any Island yeah so then that's what I'm saying like would it if all the gors could do the transportation circles then I would imagine that they could also go to any Island because I would imagine their power is better than van auger van auger can okay okay okay well well I I'm saying that like Saturn is on the island yeah the gors are over here so if you want to teleport here you need somebody over there first so like it's a two-way thing but Saturn trans transported himself to the eggh Head without anybody there oh that okay so in that regard I I think it's like proximity based I think you have to be close by and that that's where I'm confused because then it's like van auger's ability you know van auger has the proximity thing where he was telling it like a Vio old but vigo's all makes because he's like he's there's like a sacrifice you know what I mean like that's you don't always he need a sacrifice though you can use the ult without the sacrifice but don't you need to like have a pointand click location or can you oh did they I thought it's not it's not lock on you can do it wherever um you can use it like go over bushes and you know go over pit oh I haven't played uh enough to to know V League of Legends reference guys you know some of us old heads hear these new Champion names I me vgo is one of the older newer ones but uh yeah damn damn it is so but and and you know going back to the whole what we got from this chapter is really sick I just want to know how Oda is going to divide it up because there's a world where the holy Knights have everything you know like they have a portion of all of it and I think that would be cool um I do think that would be cool and I don't think like the reason why I like the force thing isn't weird for me to think that that everyone has it is cuz like that could be like higher tier of hockey like it could be something like that where it's like Shanks can cancel people's observation hockey you know what I mean I would imagine that there's versions of that where it is like the force that it's not a secret that Oda loves Star Wars so it's like can you use hockey in a the way of the force why not like I don't see why at this point in the story we're gatekeeping that but you know at the end of the day um at the end day I have High Hopes I have High Hopes uh not for Saturn but for everybody else and and I'm excited I Saturn can shine really well given the opponent like put put buggy in front of him right put like a a harmless old man hit him first bro my man can't hit about uh put put put us up in front of Saturn just just anybody else usop your least favorite straw hat and SL character of the entire series yes let's use that as a benchmark there go I'm glad you agree now yeah use him as a benchmark yeah you're right and people how about this how about this how about this people how do you feel oh oh this is gonna this is gonna get ready guys how do you feel about the people rationalizing that usopp's Firebird is going to do something against itsumade he's going to snipe down because like you said I think you also brought up the itsumade story is that it was taken down by a sniper so how do you feel about usapp throwing out the firebird firebird itsumade one V1 Usopp is the gor's uh maker you know how do you feel about that God on the demon yo-kai the minute we heard that it was confirmed that Marcus Mars was a bird I looked up a bunch of bird yo-kai ituma was one of them yes and I said hey like maybe there's a chance that good old Usopp goes against Marcus Mars and I said that seriously I I I I don't think I said mono Mano I think I roped somebody else into that two uhhuh and and then and then now that we have the chapter I I said hey like Chopper you know uh Brooke even Nami Chom like uh like robing all them since they're like off like the labo face Coast yeah but I don't think that would be anytime soon I feel like if Usopp were to shoot anything at the itsumade nothing would work yeah I don't think it would do enough damage or or it would be like Saturn where he takes the damage but he just regenerates and he doesn't care and and I think there's a really great specific example we can reference which was the Toby Ropo where Alti was just dog walking Uso and Nami had big mom not shown up one single Toby Ropo would have wiped out two of these members present I would imagine if you like the itsumade should have a crazier portrayal now given Zoro and Jim bear there we don't know zoro's you know uh post uh Victory uh uh sorry spoilers guys uh zoro's uh situation after skinning his uh opponent but and wearing his coat like what Twitter is saying uh but um you know it's it's just crazy that like people are are thinking like Usopp is gonna do something against this and I I would love it but like that would be awful for the gor if like usab and Nami banded together and actually like deterred the itsumade from anything because Alti didn't Alti was running through them Usopp even tried to hit like page one and page one just kind of like huh what are you trying to do little man little man funny enough Usopp ran speaking of uh speaking of page one the attack that Usopp uses to stop the sunny in this chapter is the exact same attack he used on page one that had no effect yeah I yeah the bamboo shoots right yeah yeah yeah so it works on fodder but but you know the itsumade should not have the similar like it should be well above what we saw of you know if if if Usopp could not even graze Alti in page one I don't understand how we can expect anything Usopp has at this moment yeah at this moment anything yeah sure end the story after elb we give him mol we give him every every tool he becomes Batman just change him soj King come back yeah sure sure it's but right now I don't know I don't know I don't know again I think right now um a lot of the straw hats if you're not the monster Trio you're just kind of underleveled right now yeah and jimbe like jimbe could probably hold off yeah I so funny enough I include jimbe and the monster Trio now I just consider Luffy like an anomaly he's just the yonko yonko and his three yonko commanders essentially yeah okay but who would be knocked out if yam joined in the monster Trio who be knocked out yeah I don't think anybody would be knocked out I think it' have to be like the monster quad at that point yeah yeah yeah the quadrio the yeah I don't like jimbe is he's too strong sanji's too strong yam's too strong like I don't think any of them would get knocked out and then Zoro is like the Undisputed right hand so yeah yeah yeah there's no you know he gets now we you know actually I'll wait till we get to the Zoro park because I have I have an addition to some Zoro fans um so for the holy Knights though like what monster designs are you like looking forward to if they do have like these mythical creature um crypted designs cuz I I am looking forward to I I've talked about this before but I I do think we'll get like Garling as a werewolf yeah I love that it was like uh on stream yesterday like um it's it's hard to cook with this chapter because this opened up a can of worms literally and um but I did really like the idea that like the holy Knights have their own like like lesser demons forms and more popular ones and the easiest one is yeah like mihawk being a vampire that's like a day one like the moment we saw mihawk the way he was coming through in a coffin it's like that dude is somehow a vampire like I don't care what anybody says and it's like that that's a hi mind voice of all things kind of theory that I think anybody who's seen the series through and through is like yeah they've at least thought it one time right but then we get with the shanks one I think he brought it up was like um the werewolf uh thing but then also the Garling having the moon thing and on top of that my favorite reason for that is cuz Oda in the SCS said that this is what it would look like if he didn't cut his hair and it's a full moon and so it could be like that was oda's meme way of like showing what his full transformation is when Garland goes into werewolf form he gets like a full moon like hairo and he stays in werewolf form or something like that or he does something goofy where he like he makes the tips of his hair touch which funny enough when we got Garling design I did think I was like huh I wonder I wonder if that like he does something with the points like does he stab people with it like they could be useful attack like donin it's or now it's gonna be a buff it's going to be Beppo's monster point you know what I mean it's going to be the the the the in oh and then maybe they have suong werewolf mink like who knows and again funnily enough one of my theories it was that well it you know as far as the yo-kai go it doesn't apply but one of my theories was and this is my latest Zoro video um was that these Swordsmen probably were animals like they there's some kind of animal connection to them I didn't apply Shanks to it I don't know if I no I didn't even have Garling at that point point in this Theory but I was saying that the West Blue is going to be really important and I was like that was when I had the kuma God Valley God Valley is West Blue like that you know that kind of stuff but um um adding on to that theory but the overarching point was like yo these insane Swordsmen the Oda might make them animal likee and we have Cavendish as an example we have mihawk we have Zoro they all have some kind of crazy animal thing to the point where the kavenish is his his nickname is literally uh the slicing uh weasel like weasel and weasel and mink are basically the same like they're basic like they're the same animal essentially like they're their cousins so it's like Oda is basically calling him the slicing mink and that's uh prior to the minks reveal but also we have other characters that get buffed up by the moon and it would be it'd be interesting if Shanks has that Lord that'd be that'd be kind of fun um but then I like uh thinking mihawk and Shanks having the Rivalry of Twilight the werewolf versus vampire thing is just kind of funny CU you know that is a reference Odo would make Twilight was a huge franchise that made its uh way around the world so wouldn't be an unheard of thing for him to like reference something like that later on but um then I was thinking you know if it's like common day yo-kai and scary things the one that I would want to see is is buggy because clowns are kind of like kind of like if anyone has seen Buggy's original design that's a yo-kai his name is boogie boogie the clown and that is straight up a Yokai it's just so scary and so different from what we got of buggy and when you think of like American horror films clowns are it literally It Pennywise I think that's a that's a clown whatever and Oda literally Buggy's design he said he watched a horror movie and said oh I can't do Boogie anymore because it's already taken so he did bug and he also referenced horror he's referenced watching horror films many times in the SPs and I think interviews I forget what the oh not interviews well interviews but then also I think a chapter note recently it was something like if anybody knows um um be be horror movies be b-rated horror movies uh this like design you you know this design or something like that and I forget what it was in a reference to I think I might have made a short on it recently but but yeah uh werewolf clowns vampire I think they could fit there and then there's like uh like Bigfoot the yeti Bigfoot's fun yeah the Yeti abominal snowman The Jackal succubus succubus could be this could be where the siren comes in the siren could be a huge one right um harpies are like Mona is a thing right but like so maybe we get harpies and sirens and things like that uh there could be like a Fishman version too where it's like uh man like like the cursed thing that we saw I forget what the love the love land frog man something something and and at the end of the day these things could be stuff that Oda has already referenced I remember I told you I was like oh I really want to before this call I want to go back and look through all these things there's certain panels before every Arc where there's like a weird reference to like things like this and they were gags but maybe they weren't gags and oo's ucing and I saw some people on Twitter saying like zoro's move set he had the demon horse demon horse now we have the demon horse now is his opponent Firebird for USA maybe that was an indicator that he would fight the itsumade like maybe we look at some of these characters we look at their moves it's like H that's a weird name that Oda gave it to gave to them and if St Venus The Swordsman of the goray is demon horse and that was a move that Zoro had well we already thought that there were going to be opponents so like you just put two and two together it's like maybe we can filter through some things like that and figure things out and maybe we can find out uh holy Knights Holy Knight names from from those random attacks maybe we look at some of Frankie's attacks and like huh that's a weird that's that was a weird one Frankie or Choppers Choppers maybe we look at one of his and and see like I think a lot of people like the wend dingu I think is like a yo-kai from Canada wo wendigo yeah yeah some kind of like I say Yokai from Canada but it's like an yoai from Canada the Canadian yo-kai the windigo yeah like Chopper ends up fighting hilarious wendigo I think that would end up looking more like the holy night that we saw with the Jackal head like some kind of dead kind of like antelop is deer like creature so maybe we already saw that so um yeah it is interesting funny enough uh I I I didn't want to put this Theory out there but like one of the Holy Knights is wearing like a gas mask and with Akira Toriyama passing away recently like I already knew this and I already thought about this I think I brought it up too but um people don't know that's Akira toyama's like Avatar Oda has a fish head Akira Toriyama just has a gas mask like he's just like this round dude with a gas mask and it kind of it it's not the same thing but I was like huh I wonder why a gas mask and I couldn't think of like like a gas mask yo-kai right like was I don't know what that would be but I guess it could be like a Scooby-Doo Villain Like a gas mask killer yeah yeah hey Scooby-Doo could make like Scooby-Doo is like an international phenomenon everybody Scooby-Do has touched all all parts of the world they have the most John Cena was in Scooby-Doo yeah I know you saw that recent viral clip where the Tweet was literally like damn scoobydoo had the in most insane collabs and it was a tweet yeah yeah and it was and it was John Cena Yeah Yeah Yeah they I think they had it with uh Green Day and and like these Elvis Presley Elvis Presley there was like an Australian uh uh band there was like a Japanese thing to they literally every continent they have collabs with like famous people around the world and it's pretty impressive I wouldn't be surprised if I think Stephen Hawkin had one too he has to why wouldn't he yeah exactly yeah yeah and when they get these collabs it's like the actual people it's not like like John Cena was the voice of the person it wasn't like a made up it wasn't like a like a Family Guy version you know it was like the real real deal so the real deal yeah exactly it was the real John Cena if anybody seen the clip that's the real John Cena he can do that um so hey lador luchadora from the holy Knights that'd be interesting yeah would that be the uh the progenitor of the luchadoras yeah yeah the Luchador that's hilarious yeah King Taco is in the uh the world government so oh and then we do have like uh Abraham Lincoln in the world government too yeah so he's like one of the Kings King Hamburg yeah and and and so Abraham Lincoln would mean that we get uh Rd McDonald yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yep I think I think o Oda can go really crazy with these designs bro the holy Knights I I have them on such a high pedestal I hope they don't disappoint yeah that's why I'm worried but I'm also like at least this reveal you can't be worried about like their Foundation their Foundation is going to be cool it's more like how Oda cooks with them afterwards cuz like we could have done good things with the scabbards we could have done good things with the satellites we could have done good things with the Toby rppo did we no um you know is it their fault as the starting off point no so like that's where I'm worried it's like is it going to go the way side of the rest of the straw hats where it's like like I think someone said it we've had like five Brook panels or something like that in Olive egg head and like you know that might not be your favorite straw hat but it is a straw hat and he's got less time than like sent Maru no offense to saru but it's like saru had like a whole chapter yeah yeah we even got his backstory a little bit he was adopted he was adopted that was it yeah guys adopted man it was big well yeah he was defeating Bears that's crazy you know what I mean I mean we did get a decent Chunk from him we know that Two Dads adopted him and he lived a very normal life thereafter and he's just a great character all around the defense he learned perfectly from he like he was out there surviving kizaru better than most other characters would and and then kizaru hit us like where do you think you learned your defense from and that hey hey that's that's such a strange line like where do you think you learned that defense from from yeah cuz I was the daddy that beat you you know what I mean like at least we know that centar had an Asian upbringing right so um that's one relatable Point can we relate to Brooke I don't even know Brooke you know at the end of the day um you don't even like his music and so we can't say that about santaro he's what do he the worst thing that he's given us was that cursed oaro refresher where everyone smiling in the postcard thing that was what if that's what what if that's what Ohara was to sent tomaru though yeah that's how Vega punkin Kazo told him it was right like but that's like the worst thing that we got from him that he was telling like this cursed story timeline till the rest of egad like ah I remember it just like yesterday everyone was smiling as the island burned down and we raised it to to uh well not necessarily raised it because the book survived and Saul survived and like the island was fine hey the island was still there I don't know man Buster called deleting Islands uh I don't know about that one yeah yeah delete hey hey hey people want to say delet islands like I could step foot on Ohara if I wanted to I didn't even go for a swim do you think Ohara is blocked off nowadays or do you think it's still like open to the public listen the world's worst criminal made it there right days and the Giants too giant andk Giants they weren't even the scary Giants they were the new Giants as kids like you know what I mean like these weren't even this is like 20 or not 20 or like 30 40 like these are baby Giants the world's worst criminal showed up and just stood there and had held interviews asked the Giants who are you what are you doing here and then Vega Punk showed up who is a protected World Government scientist he showed up to Ohara if they needed to if if they need to investigate him about like oh is he researching poneglyphs they could have just tracked him to Ohara and they that through the cracks that's wild to me you know that hey hey the gor say famously the most competent characters um but they're I love the Goro say yeah yeah I just hope that that part doesn't go down to the holy Knights I want I want the holy Knights to be uh fully you know every decision they make meaningful somebody uh somebody commented this but I was like they're so right like yo Dragon U he said the revs were waiting for the holy knuts to make their move first he didn't say nothing about the or about the goray yeah see I'm I'm I'm I I'll I'll be trans arent guys I have a dragon video I I have another one already posted two dragon videos back to back and that's not where it stops there's three more on the way dragon videos right I thought that dragon is number one but what Sai just told me is worrisome for the holy Knights Dragon being dragon with the what he's shown us right at this point and he's worried of the Holy Knights and he's like they're our main enemy I'm almost concerned then because then that would mean that like equal and opposite Force Oda would not make the holy Knights not um like in so make them so superior to the to to the revs that they would be not a match why would dragon say that's our real war just to get dog walked by the holy Knights so that's worrisome because I don't regard the revs in its entirety as like this terrifying Force I don't look at Bellow Betty and Morley and be like oh no like yeah they were oh no like if the Admirals wanted to if if green hadn't needed to fight also Fuji Torah I'm pretty sure the Admirals would kind of steamroll the the the the and like they had to protect the celester dragons I think they would steamroll most of the commanders aside from you know Sabo and maybe karasu and Ivan COV we don't know where ivanov's at ivanov's in this weird time post times skip bubble where he's like he kind of was insane at Marine Ford and we just kind of he was a background character he's in line with Kuma now that we how crazy Kuma is and dragon we don't know where he's at but at the end of the day I don't think the holy Knights have to be that crazy to like be a threat to the the Reps and that's where I'm like when you said like oh like Dragon said we're worried about the Holy nuts and not the gor say I'm sitting there like that's not even that meaningful to me because you don't really have to be that big of a deal who did they stop Peach beard who's that guy you know what I mean like that was a no-named person from kaido's crew or not kaido Blackbeard's crew that Blackbeard didn't even mention after Peach beard got defeated I don't even think Blackbeard even talked about Peach beard so no yeah that guy got tossed at the Wayside it's so sad to see and then and then what did we add to the revs in the first place we added Humpty Dumpty this ushi dude that I hate and then like the pre pre like design of Nami that none of these characters give me Terror you know like I'm worried about them uh uh slapping down a Holy Knight I'm pretty sure all of them combined might not even scratch a Holy Knight right so so I don't know I don't know where I'm at with the Holy Knights I want them to be scary but it's like there's a pattern Oda has done with this like second tier characters from like the main character which kaido big mom emu Luffy right and then you have their main cast of commanders then you have the lower rum that's also reflected in the straw hats so it's like man like it's worrisome and I don't even think the straw hats lower rung can even should be able to fight the holy Knights at this moment so we need a power up we need like a mini training Arc for some of the straw hats not all of them I mean I mean you know like I I guess never say no to training but which that's a good segue because this in this chapter we kind of open the the pearly white Gates that people have been afraid of which is Sanji saying to Nami hey yo you guys get off the island no matter what don't worry about us you guys get off and and so it's like that kind of opens the door for exactly that like the weak weaker crew maybe in Junction with jimbe and Zoro leave or it seems like maybe Jim B zor have to hold off the itsumade which is something we talked about before we didn't say it in the light of all the goray but um I think when the when it was coming through with all the gors we did say like this kind of opens up that some of the straw hats could leave in Parts um and that's kind of said outright in this thing so maybe we get love it cuz cuz like in this chapter pretty much all the straw hats are near the exit except for Sanji Zoro jimbe and Luffy like literally like Usopp Nami Robin chomer Brooke they're all right there by the ship Bonnie Kuma Atlas are at the bottom with the Giants on their ship and I like yeah dude like we could actually split up here and this could be really good for some of the quote lesser straw hats that need that power up like maybe they go to elb maybe they get a lot of stuff done while Luffy and the boys hold it down here yeah yeah and and uh we never I don't think we ever brought up this point um when we talked about the straw hat splitting up but we did talk about like the strongest straw hats having to stay but what would that look like what would that mean in the longer how do they get back it would sound good like as an idea but on paper it's harder to enact um in a way that feels good in it's possible sure but then I was also think thinking like cuz I have this uh I wouldn't say this uh it's not a specific Theory but it's more so like a perspective that I had for a lot of theories which was that Odo was using the movies as a Sandbox for certain ideas so as an example I have an entire video about strong world how strong World basically foreshadowed or was oda's sandbox to test out most of the time skip up until Egghead essentially because the way he defeated Shiki which was the king of beasts cuz he's a lion he's x- Rock's pirate he had floating island the way Luffy beat him was the same way he beat kaido giant limb coated in lightning and it destroyed whatever and you know in strong roles he didn't have the island move but there's so many parallels I have an entire video on that but the overarching thing is that Oda gives notes about to these movies we know that with strong world he wrote All of strong world but thereafter he took a lesser role and he whether it was like design or or outfits or or some plot points we know with film red he gave 17 pages of bullet notes to the director and he was less on hand and he even in that interview saying like I think it's the role of the ant the the movie director to make the movie I might not agree with all the things but he's there to make sure that the devil fruit powers are consistent he's there to make sure that the outfits and the characters they you know they're in the right place I think you mentioned that he didn't think uh bluno and Khalifa were back in the story and he and the director actually had to like discuss that prior to film red and then we got them reintroduced in the story there after and so um the I say all that because the focal point is actually film gold which film gold had a heavy Celestial Dragon thematic and one thing that I really really liked about that movie was the plot point of they took Zoro hostage Zoro was essentially held hostage uh and Luffy and all of them had to do this insane plan to get like not get Zoro back but like Luffy was also like underground and he couldn't help Zoro was held hostage so all the other straw hats had to devise a plan to free him and it was in besides Sanji they were extreme they didn't have jimbe at the time either so they're extremely blunted in terms of how they were able to do it and like each straw hat in that moment had probably some of the best portray like usopp's fight is something I replayed and I actually liked it cuz he went up against such a funny power for his character it made sense it didn't make him insanely strong but it made his character feel good and we haven't had that in the series I would argue that usopp's portrayal in film gold was better than even dress Rosa because it used his entire character of like luck and unlucky and lying and and his how he uses teammates and his planning to fight against a cracked ass power that she literally stole Luffy's luck and was fighting Usopp with Luffy's luck which is like so nuanced and that was in the scope of that movie and I would you know I would like that to happen in a larger scheme of things where it's like yeah we take away Zoro we take Sanji we take away Luffy what do the rest of straw hats do they're going to have to have their moments and I would love for them to have these meaningful moments against characters that they shouldn't be and you know the end of the rant is I I just had a Nostalgia of alabasta when I was like kid I genuinely thought that Alabaster was The Last Arc going through it because they were dying like the the way the straw hats were being beaten like Nami had to pull out mirages to get pseudo stabbed but she did get stabbed through the foot I looked at every single one of those fights Zoro had the hardest time there I'm like do they live like is this the end of the series when I was watching weekly I was like whoa they might actually not survive this Arc this might be the end of one piece um which is iron because that's when Oda Oda was writing for the end of one piece to come sooner at that part and he extended after alabasta but um I would like that all of that that's when Nami Usopp all the characters Sanji Zoro they felt their best when they had that like yo this is a person I can't beat like I know I can't beat them but I beat them anyways and and even Zoro had that Zoro had to go above and beyond to do that so it'd be interesting if we get that here it'd be interesting yeah no I agree uh I I say hey definitely separate the straw hats out send them to elb and then Luffy Sanji Zoro and jimbe they can figure it out they have the ancient robot if they need a here they could just use the ancient robot and get out I mean obviously Luffy doesn't know how it works he doesn't even know it exists right now or he doesn't know that it's alive right now even but yeah I feel like there's a lot of ways for us to meet up with them later es bear Kuma Luffy is so cracked at this point where it's like like he could see someone teleport and just like oh me too you know like I don't even know like you know what I mean like he could probably copy the craziest abilities like he saw Kuma's ability Ababa I don't know why I tripped over that ability so maybe he copies it like we didn't even we still don't know if that's clones that he pulled out so and then Vega Punk also has the warp drive Technologies there's so many ways to facilitate whatever needs to come out of the straw head splitting and I think the biggest deterrent people have in their minds for it is uh they dislike it splitting up like everyone gets less focused but like I'm telling them look at Egghead and look at how Oda split up Egghead like our favorite parts weren't on Egghead some of our favorite chapters are not Egghead they're on haosu they're on elbaff they're in the revery they're they're in so many other places and Oda weaved it through so master class and it's because it's the last Saga this is what he's had planned so if he had had the plan to split up the stats here then this is probably something that he's going to execute really well and there's no there's no doubt in my mind the only thing that I am worried about as far as like what oda's perspective is is like he it I've been coming to terms with it is like the goray may not be the topend villains like we thought like emu might be but the goray might not be and um this goes back to like one of oda's main things that he wrote One Piece to be a story about the fight against yonos not the world government it was the yonos first in the first 5-year plan it was the Pirates versus the yonko and so that doesn't mean that the world government wasn't involved but it does kind of imply like yo blackb is the yonko shanks is the yonko like buggy the yonko that's the main goal and the goray are going to be giant obstacles maybe not like not fodder obviously emu is not going to be fodderized I doubt out but but maybe it is it does lie with Blackbeard and you know I have a video on that too but it is interesting what we got it does still feel too early to get all these forms I'm not mad I'm not mad but it makes me feel like one piece is ending like this year a little bit it's good yeah it's on it keeps you on your toes keeps it on your toes yeah and that's why I Bank on the holy night since we don't know their design yet yeah yeah what about sword what about sword do you think sword is going to be like in the mix of the ravs and the holy Knights like do you think yeah you think they're going to be like on that level like we're gonna have sword members fighting the holy Knights sword members probably not like all of them like if we get a sword member it's probably just Kobe it's interesting yeah Kobe versus one of them that'd be fun that would be interesting oh oh what would Kobe's like antithesis yo-kai be huh I don't know but I mean when when I think of like um the holy Knights or even the goray I feel like these are perfect opponents for people who aren't even the straw hats like I could see the revs coming in Cross Guild former allies even some of the grand Fleet uh some Marines even like yeah it when I think of the Final War I think of all the sides clashing so the sword would be a part of that for sure so do you think okay okay that's interesting because then the holy Knights are kind of like uniting factor for everyone that's not a straw hat right cuz like realistically can the revs One V one the holy Knights or is it the revs plus sword plus the grand Fleet like you know what I mean where I think the Rev need help they don't have enough yeah I don't think they have enough manpower to be honest yeah like not all of them are Fighters I feel like a lot of their powers are just utility based do you think oh okay Ivan kov Ivan kav and like Sabo are probably gonna fight Saturn right like that would be an interesting thing for to get back for Kuma Ivanov and S or Ivanov and Sabo yeah Ivanov has the god Valley runback you know with with Saturn you know and then Kuma what what he did to Kuma and then sabo's also there too because he saw the the after effect he saw him as a slave so and Sabo loves Kuma so it's like it could be the dors also are in that boat too where they're fought by other other and maybe like the straw hats run like like they help everybody like they run like commanders they're the commanders of like these random kind of like Whitebeard oh yeah like whitebeard's commanders like Whitebeard had a bunch of commanders that had a bunch of people under them maybe each Straw Hat has that is you know isn't that their new names like the new the nine uh Superior officers or something like that oh yeah something like that so maybe that's so the reason I'm like I'm like hesitating on the vov question is I I I don't disagree like I obviously they're going to fight somebody right yeah but I'm just I don't know if it'll be Saturn though I get the tie in but yeah because then otherwise it'd be for Garland if it was to be a narrative tie at least but Saturn makes a lot of sense because he's also jinny's uh jinny's person too so like Ivanov has a vendetta right yeah Ivanov wouldn't be bad I don't know if I just I don't know if I do Ivanov and Sabo though I think that's kind of where I'm hung up I feel like I want Sab to fight somebody else so actually there's something we didn't bring up on the stream or today yet though we're past it is Sabo in a room with all these gor say he's completely valid his entire portrayal right running the way he did like what how he handled it there was no shot that he could do more right oh yeah yeah yeah I never thought Sabo like getting hit and running away was bad yeah yeah but you know what does go up is king cobra king cobra got out of his wheelchair to face these five monsters plus emu that guy that guy is balls bro nah no I don't likeing I don't like King I'm exposing you right now because on stream and you know most of your viewers are as uh you know I'm not going to use the word brain broken but I don't think you'd be opposed to being like we're all brain broken in our own ways um size uh I I would I would use the word loathe I think one one of the things that sigh loathes yeah I KN you have the no it's so it's so early I've been I've been up par I didn't sleep I'm so tired if you guys want to know what kept Sai up last night he was watching on stream if you guys should tune into his twitch streams and get to know the real sigh he's watching s lives and breeds one piece you guys might not know this in his free time famously watches one piece YouTube videos top 10 moments uh 2024 he's watching that and he he just his heart vomited the moment VI was mentioned he hates Vivie T cour thinks she's awful not nakam Material hate yeah I I think I hate everybody from alabas to be honest and and and that's why I'm that's why I brought the king cobra I'm I want to expose the VV part but like come on you have to give Cobra some coones for the dude fought par paralysis to save to and and stood up and not only he not only faced the demons but I think what's scary of that he faced all the blickies too and he asked them hey do I live from this he looked at them pulling out their their their oh no in your word the Gizzy the Gizzy he they pulled out all the glizzies for savoo to uh not Sao Cobra and Cobra did not back down not a single moment you know I think that the dude was already dead I mean like he was a Dead Man Walking Dead Man sitting You Like a Man of Action you like a man that stands up for what they believe in K is probably the most respectable person he stood up against paralysis and he's a man of action he did what he did he he protected that's all he he just stood there no he jumped in front he pushed Sabo behind him by that that's such a low bar part at that at that lot with that bar you could say I'm a big pound supporter you hate pound yeah I hate pound I I wish he died died on whole cake I mean that's separate if fine if he died but he was he was pretty cracked he was doing I like pound what beig what what's the kid's name Pepe Lao Pepe's parents Grand Pez oh sorry Pez pez's Grand pep that's that's the skunk right from yeah that's the skunk from Looney Tunes yeah yeah yeah yeah um um Pez I don't like pound either pound is like GARP he was just the Fists the way he like I I like characters that stand up and do things I love men of action but here's the thing they got to they got to do like they actually have to do some work like pound did nothing wait pound saved them he punched um who he punched somebody yeah he punched oven most durable big he didn't he didn't like hurt oven he didn't beat oven same with Cobra Cobra stood up but like he lost dude like he's just he's just getting hit he's a bullet sponge film red had Frankie and oven boxing pound actually looked better against oven in some regard and so pound oh pound looked better than Frankie against the oven yeah yeah Frankie was out here grappling like they were like at a sleepover pound actually hit him with it you know what I mean like yeah P sucker punched him to be fair and it's it's a sweet oven is kak Curry's triplet That's crazy dude oven that's I I don't like oven I don't like Cobra yeah they're they're not strong dude like I I want them do something but they got to be strong pound has the biggest civilian feet in one piece maybe I would argue that maybe no the guy that killed T-Bone big a civilian feat but we don't know we we we didn't see it off screen did he have his whole family eat him like we don't know you know what was you know what else was off screen ainu versus aiji Blackbeard versus Marco and the Whitebeard no civilians in this I'm just saying like offscreen fights go crazy man yeah but but we your head Canon coming into that stream was T-Bone probably gave himself up because he was such a noble guy you even said that and that was still that was still a better feat than pound how is that thing the civilian getting surrendered to because I'm not saying T-Bone I'm saying the civilian as far as civilians going one piece like like yeah okay so it okay we'll bring it down then as a civilian pound did really good but I still don't like his character all right I'm just you know and and hey commenters you tell me I think I think I'm looking at the first double spread in a decade in a decade legendary and you know not many characters could just stand up and actually try to defend themselves fight against this we have gear five a little God here and you know who the last person to do this was Cobra and so you know Alabaster might not be all that bad you know I think if Cobra like reached into his pockets in his final moments and then he grabbed a bunch of pockets in and threw it at them I would like him a lot more but he kind of just stood there and did this and he started like saying oh Queen Lily's letter you know talked about and then he just kept on getting cut off I think that was just really lame like it was cool for the like I like the scene but as far as Cobra I'm not like walking out of that like a big Cobra fan how about this he knows he knows he walked into death in the first place because he was going to the gor to ask about Pags which he knows is a huge taboo that's a he wanted what he wanted and he went after it he stood on 10 toes and he took it he took it you know what I mean not many characters 10 toes he did it i'm that's a fe I don't know how many people have experienced paral is but standing up from like how many of us in the chat right now have experienced paralysis Sher stand up please my man did what Stephen Hawkins could not right and he did it for against demons Monsters the world's worst nightmares for a kid he didn't even know you know what I mean okay so so in your opinion which one is a better showing l standing in front of the five gors right now in this chapter or king cobra standing up in front of the five gors which was a better feet yeah isn't the same feet they're both doing the same thing which one there's the power difference right like Luffy at least can he can box these guys Cobra can't yeah so then in that world Cobra is more impressive right yeah I guess he would have to be yeah then gear five Luffy I I don't know how he made is more impressive than gear five Luffy I don't know how he made it that statement but I'm not mad at that existing gear five I don't like I don't like Cobra I don't like any of those sand people I think alabas needs to go I wish crocodile won so that he could take over and make it a lot better yo Dune hit you with some hate I hate Dune I know I hate Dune you why because it takes place in the desert yeah Tak place in the desert to have some of the lamest ideas known to mankind like it the most Bare Bones fiction story I've ever seen and people eat eat it up like it's not bad like it's I heard Dune 2 was good and I feel like the lore could get amazing but based off of Dune one no hopes that doesn't solve Dune one like I I saw people glazing Dune 2 and until I see it it's glazing because they would retroactive like oh Dune one was a masterpiece but then I also saw people say the 1985's Dune was better feeling than Dune one and and that's just crazy because it's like that's like pre- Star Wars era Dune and it's it's doing better than this current Dune and it's like I could see why because I'm sure they didn't waste time I'm pretty sure the run time for that first movie is like an hour and 30 this one's like 2 hours 30 and it could have been 1 hour and 30 they just needed oh my God don't even get me on the the dialogue too dialogue was so poor in that movie there's so many so many levels to it in that regard I would have preferred what we got from gor all silent just just no talking making a silent film ding one as a silent film might have been better if I could edit a really good thumbnail I would give us both blue eyes for this one the the Dune eyes bro bro that's what we're not gonna get what the the the Duke guy whatever the random guy that just like is really like him him floating in the air across the table is one of the most cursed things I've seen like make that dude a yo-kai here that would kind of be that would be in legent with this and then dude comes out of like the the this like tar he he had a you know what he had Aura he he was scary I didn't understand any of it we had three hours to kind of figure something out but waste waste all of our time wasn't the movie like 3 hours and 20 minutes or something Dune one was 2 hours like 40 minutes I 2 hours 40 yeah yeah yeah yeah so whenever somebody body says Dune 2 is good it's usually because of the action scenes in the cinematography yeah I haven't heard anything good about the story yet but then again I don't know a lot of people who actually go out of their way to watch Dune yeah Dune 2 I know a few people that have watched Dune one because dunu and made it to Dun 2 I haven't done that yet but I'm you know how you said like par you're a better man than me than for giving Dune 2 a chance because you're probably not um I'm with you on that I'm not probably going to watch it in theaters I'm going to you know uh wait or you know whenever that comes out I don't know if I could cuz the one it's like I have a son so I can't even like go to the theaters technically but also just man I don't even know how long Dune 2 is but After experiencing Dune one I would have I would have regretted buying a ticket if I watch Dune one you have a family of three let's say a movie ticket's like $15 would you rather have 45 bucks in your pocket right now or would you rather take your family to watch Dune to I would say I would get every stream platform oh you're right yeah you can just get every streaming platform for 45 bucks for a month and then just watch as many movies as many movies as you can yeah and I have better snack that's way better cheer I could get like six popcorn bags for the price of what they gave at the theaters like it's crazy and then all are sugary drinks I don't drink sugary drinks so like I smuggle in drinks every time so it's it is what it is um yeah yeah and then you know what even this conversation not completely unrelated isn't there a so isn't there like a real life strip somewhere in the desert that's like super Advanced or is that just like a fiction thing that I made up real life who I'm look it up strip in Desert Advanced like an our world yeah in our world right yeah I think I made that up no everything was advanced in the desert they got they were famously known for advanced stuff if if Alabaster had like Vega Punk technology I think I'd like alabaster a lot more like hey wait Al alabas has egg head technology yeah if they did I think I'd like it more which is why I'd prefer I'd prefer alabasta if crocodile took over it I don't know do like do you like gambling yeah I love gambling alabas is the only canonic Casino house technically oh rainers that's because of that's that's because of crocodile though that's what I'm saying like crocodile should have taken over they had it before crocodile crocodile dude the whole casino is modeled after crocodile I mean rain dinners it's literally called rain dinners because it's the one place that crocodile brought rain to all right I got to go back and see the figure head is a giant crocodile it has a crocodile moat his base is underneath it yeah his base is built under it's the foundation yeah yeah you're right he's the manager so so but that doesn't change it it's on alabasta crocodile want hey one of your favorite is characters crocodile I want say favorite that's blasphemy but like favorite no no he's actually one of my favorites he's like top three so he wanted Alabaster he of all the islands in the one piece world s he love because he thought pluton was there so that doesn't what what do that that makes Alabaster cooler then so you so you also hate pluton you're a pluton hater you hate what crocodile loved he devoted most of his life to alabasta he created an entire org to convene on getting alabasta you still hate what some of your favorite characters love ancient weapons casinos crocodile hey if you were in alabasta you would be I don't think crocodile would have lost if you were there s see here's the thing I can like everything crocodile likes I don't have to like Alabaster though I like I like crocodile's vision of alabaster what number would you be in broke Works what number would I be I'd be like one of the billions I mean unless I had like a devil fruit I I don't think I'd be that impressive so you think Kobe would achieve more in in the world than you he in 45 days he went from nothing to to insane right you don't think that you join brok Works be a billion and climb your ranks like League of Legends make it from the billions of iron to to the to the hundreds of of in gold or platinum and then make it your way to the top 10 I think I could I mean like if if I could actually like grind like solo leveling in one piece then yeah but but okay now now the new I'm assuming just like I'm a regular person now nuances right like you're you're you're team crocodile but you don't know because none of the organization knew Mr zero they were just blindly joining now you're in this orc you made it the top 10 but you find out crocodile wants to coup alabasta what do you do then do you leave do you leave like is this this guy for real leader had me go for this sand box would you leave bro no I I I would I would help crocodile take it down and then leave or stay because this is ter I would say to see crocodile's vision of alabas like I said if crocodile were to take over and do his thing I'd want to see it see see loyalty Sai also demonstrated one other thing that he was talking about in in yesterday's stream it's like this like devote loyalty and making uh decisions according to the leader that kind of a thing and like you know laws are laws stand up for what you believe in but you got to stand with what you believe too right like a kindu you know you know yeah yeah okay all right see good that that all worked out but but I was going to segue earlier away from king cobra and say the Dune 2 conversation wasn't even uh unrelated because probably my least favorite part of the chapter was combating oh my God this is a dune reference and I'm like come on guys this doesn't even look close to the worm it's not even the same like name or I mean I guess it's the same name but sandw worms are a thing like SpongeBob did it is it why can't we say It's a SpongeBob reference this looks more like the Alaskan bull worm than it does the Dune worm so you know that was that was interesting how that yeah the worm in this chapter is really cool I like that has Perfect Teeth I think that's the best part but like do you you know you've read all of most of oda's in dialogue SPS notes some of his interviews yeah do you think that he this is a dune reference like people think like oh maybe CU Dune got really popular he changed last minute no right what do you say to the people are like well it breaks the pattern the hokei the Yuki the itum the Boku uh I I well I mean the fact that J Peter breaks the norm of the gor all being like yoai I think that's perfect and that's why we were talking about like oh like Goatman you know Sasquatch Bigfoot werewolves vampires I think he opens up the door for all of that especially since he's the youngest gors right like the older the older batch of people could be yo-kai like shank's Dad could be a yo-kai and then when we hit the newer generation they that's when we could get like the other variations of mythologies like um I I know there's a whole thing where it's like hey does Shanks have a brother does Shanks you know have siblings that we don't know about and if that's the case then yeah he could be the werewolf yeah and that could be that would make sense why Saturn is doing experiments of like disseminating power through like some kind of lineage type thing well well if you app to the yoai stuff well if they don't want to make a devil fruit because then it's like a oneoff thing it sounded like what he wanted to do was give jinny and The Offspring The extract of the fruit without it being wasted and without the sapphire scale stuff um and so that could make sense like wait how do we pass on to the werewolf stuff if they're like you know um because they were born in time when maybe Gods existed pre void Century who knows maybe there were other yo-kai and so it was easier for them to become these things whereas like 800 years later how do you make Shanks into Yokai how do you make mihawk into the Yokai how do you make mosg guard or or uh rosan doof Flamingo how do you make them into Yokai but it is interesting because like now you look at characters like doflamingo and Shanks but like obviously we can't do it to Shanks but doflamingo he was like born with this like demonic like demones like Foundation where people even his own family even his own father was like yo he's different right but then you have homing who was like normal so it's like maybe if doflamingo stayed within it maybe he would be like like we already thought maybe he'd be a Holy Knight but maybe he'd also be a great vessel or like inheritor for these kinds of powers that would be kind of crazy maybe he still is the cool thing about do Flamingo too is that he's nicknamed the Heavenly demon which I mean would perfectly fit these guys right they're all gods but they're all demons yeah so like all the yo-kai all the Holy Night following suit the holy demons right like the celestial demons Heavenly demons whatever what have you it it all works really well um so that that was interesting but yeah the the sandworm I like I like that it it also went against the the Grain and I say grain because he's Agriculture and the worm fits that and I like that I want to know if all these names fit all of the naming schemes because Oda put the craziest names on these dudes uh asides for like Marcus Mars right it's pretty straightforward but like I wonder if these forms also are tied to the names their powers what they can do um it it will be interesting their personalities even maybe it relates to that I don't know how Saturn works with with with that but some people think that his regeneration power could be time based which I disagree with because that's not how it's depicted but you know um there there's a lot of there's lot to to come from this single double spread and excited and now time to go to page four yeah yeah kidding we're talked about nasu Juro um you know slicing the pacifista he kind of freezes them which is really cool very precise freezing mechanics here uh itsumade flies up Sanji takes a note of it which I think we already talked about too how it looks like the germa bird yeah and it's a pretty cool shot right there too it also looks like the impel down bird the bassis which was literally lizard plus bird so that was like the Basilisk um I wasif on njo thing guys that's not from what we know that's not a Black Blade that is Black Blade the we've seen this sword in its silver sheen oh I forgot we talked about that off call I was like why are you repeating this yeah yeah yeah yeah it it was like 10 minutes before we started yeah but yeah because it's wild I'm like we've seen this guys like no how is this a Black Blade like unless Oda rcon it no you dude you have no idea I just I literally got a comment 19 minutes ago that says now I guess there's a third person with a Black Blade and I'm like no like no no it's it's hockey guys I mean it could have been rcon maybe he got it during you know since we last saw him but last we saw him it was like a normal White Blade yeah that that's what it was and I honestly like it better that this is a black and blade because that at least yeah sure if it's a Black Blade and whatever but this at least confirms they have hockey like like if any like we didn't really know it's Saturn to a certain extent but like now we cannot go back and say like they don't have hockey this is a they have Armament hockey guys good at minimum this is a foundation and it's an important foundation because some people just thought that these were husks some people thought these were just astral projections no hockey they're being controlled by emu but no they this is hockey right here and this is their bodies and this is their Transformations this is it this is right here and yeah now he has an ability that's kind of similar to Brooke better than anything Brooke has ever showed us but um but but damn you said better than Brooke yeah I mean hey he's stealing the skeleton he's stealing the speed the lightness of skeletons which I don't think a horse skeleton is that light in all regard but sure we'll give it to him and the freezing uh you know tying the skeleton underworld freezing sword oh don't forget the swordsman some people forget that Brooke is a swordsman you know people forget that so technically Zoro does have to beat Brooke um or this could be like a thriller bark where Brooke is like trying to fight the guy you know steal his shadow back he's trying his best and then Zoro steps in then he finishes the fight it could be like that yeah yeah I mean I I wouldn't like that cuz you know I've said it before I I'm not a big Brook fan and even for characters I'm not fans of in one piece I still expect a lot out of them I still want them to look good so I I don't want Brook to lose in that manner if Brook loses cool but I would want him to like get back up and finish the fight I kind of hoped he did that on threr bark even you know he lost so many times to ryuma it's like I kind of want Brooke to win this it's like his 10-year War you know just oh like he comes here Rema beats him he comes here Rema beats him and it's like dang like I kind of wish Brooke did win like I I get Zoro winning feels good too because he's related to ryuma and he gets shui but you know there there's something about Brooke doing it like ah damn yeah it's it's like imagine you go to school par and you get bullied right there's like this guy named Butch and he beats you up every single day on the playground but every day after school you start working out you hit the gym you know you just bought a Lamborghini you're feeling really good you got a gun you're ready to put Butch down but before you fight Butch our mom comes out of the basement and then she beats Butch up for you and then locks him in the basement and then he becomes the berry man Zoro is our mom okay yeah Zoro is our mom and it's like dang like that's cool and all but like yeah I see go but I the the difference I think here is that would be plausible if ryuma didn't have Brook's exact move set it could be like oh like if he didn't have ex because then it's essentially the whole point of is that ruma's sword God and because he's exactly Brooke there's no world where Brooke is they have the exact same move set and ryuma in every guard every regard would be a better swordsman than Brooke there's no way he could beat himself a better version of himself which would be a zombie of Sword God but that's would be that that's what would be so cool you know like you know overcoming his past Shadow and just growing up but then Brook would be zoro's final opponent you know what I mean like like and in that regard Brook too strong now I don't even know what Brooke would do against nuso because like his whole thing is his swordsman power like the freezing stuff is the power of the underworld right my man has what 50 years in the Underworld stuff ner Juro should have 800 years there's no world where Brooke has better understanding of the underworld Powers than 800 year old Dark Horse right now even more than that even more than that you know Brooke was overpowering souls in in big mom he's Soul King right and I'm thinking about like yo if these are actual yo-kai are they Souls is it like Brooke has a concert and they just like can't refuse to dance like is that is Brooke their worst threat but it's like Brooke won't even get that but he should they regarded him as a yoai he's a ghost dude and he has Soul Powers over Soul thing so it's like if they're not devil fruits and they like like whatever nusa Juro brings out from the underworld technically Brooke could manhandle it and I'm almost wondering if that's what Brooke could do against this gors guy and yeah sure he might not win because no J should be a better sword but Brooke has the potential to like nullify and like with the other powers and that would be kind of wild I could give that to Brooke but everything El I feel like the one way like an option with how to hurt the gors would definitely be like Brooke right yeah yeah yeah like Brook Clash caning the underworld Powers I I would love that like if two straw hats combined and fought like these things like that would be cool right now no one will ever allow Zoro to 2v one an opponent right uh but hey if it happens against aor it's not like the worst thing at least if aors is strong right it's not Saturn um but you know it's not Saturn damn yeah yeah like hey M someone brought up that zoro's move sets going down the eight hot Hells or no cold Hells like his move in this in this chapter is a cold hell and sanji's going down the the eight hot hells and so maybe that's the thing the 16 together maybe they fight maybe they fight all the gors do you see a world where Zoro Sandi shoulder-to-shoulder take on multiple gor site together or multiple holy nights um I prefer one-on-one fights personally so that's kind of where I'm at damn I like 2v ones though if they're done well I could see it doing yeah yeah I guess um jjk kind of changed my perspective on 2v ons yeah yeah yeah they the way they do I don't I haven't seen manga but people have said it it keeps that energy but the way they do 2v ons you would think you hate it but it's like this is sick this is really cool and I don't know how it up but I'm imagining based off of what you're saying it feels good and that's the shown in like that's breaking shown in uh tropes where it's like it sometimes some series make you mad with like yo this doesn't need to be a 1V one in no context does this need to be a 1 V one um it's like your story is not as goofy as one piece where it makes sense where the this F like Sho warning 1 V ones every goddamn time even when it doesn't make sense like but that's because one piece came from that era and they'll keep that energy right but some of these modern ones it's like bro this didn't need to be a One V one just just 2v 2 V one do it please and then they don't if they can win they'll win because not CU they don't have plot armor and jjk because a lot of people just end up dying so they're like yo when we fight we got to go in with like the advantage yeah so that's that's why 2v ones make sense over there yeah yeah yeah so I hey if Oda Oda brings 2 v1s and does it well I think he could do it I would love it I mean my man's building up to the Battle Royale you know if car if GARP had like a GARP law had like competent characters next to them like throughout the entire thing Tov like these multiple people fights would feel really sick right but the whole point of it was that there was a Lynch pin at the very end whether it be Kobe or beo that like changed the scope of of the thing but like imagine GARP tag teaming with sen Goku against like these threats that would feel sick I think that would be dope and I think Oda is going that route where he's going to bring back like these Duos and like Sanji and Zoro 100% are gonna have a a combo oh yeah no I agree yeah I think so I'm going dial it back from what I said because I I didn't get where you were trying to go but I do agree that Sanji and Zoro will have a team up at one point but but when you when you mentioned it I thought it'd be like a 2v2 2v3 kind of situation where I'm like H at that point kind of just separate amount but 2V1 yeah yeah I think a 21 be really cool yeah I think it would like boil down to like combination fights like when OD said uh uh you know with Luffy how can I make this punch interesting essentially is paraphrasing what people like kind of mistake is like he wasn't ever going to do a punch to like he just wanted to make it interesting in his mind gear five conquers hockey new form giant fist size Island that was to him changing it right but his whole scope was like how do I make this more interesting well the easiest one that most shonin go is combo fights combo attacks combinate like Frankie's already doing trying to do the Gundam thing and throw their bark yeah we get more of that just less memes more like Hoku sovereignty we have Dorian brogi here he could teach he could teach they could teach Duo moves you know what I mean like how do you mix hockey together to make Duo moves kaido and big mom did something that like most other characters can't really do right Dory brogi can do it but they fought each other for hundreds of years and they were together for probably 100 more so it's like like maybe it'd be sick coming off of elb how do you make the weaker Trio stronger give them combo attacks make them uh like they don't necessarily become fully strong in their own maybe just have them figure out how to have Synergy something that you said you were impressed by when the goray did I was impressed when the Blackbeard Pirates were doing it right they were actually in Synergy um the strats have pseudo Synergy where they like plan and they they they're friends and they love each other but then like this Cutthroat thing happens we get like scenes where it's like they're not on the same page and they're not perfectly outside like Sanji and Z they have good team up I'm not saying that they don't but like not in the scope of Hoku sovereignty is what I'm saying where it's like you know son Usopp and Nami weren't combining attacks against page one and big mom right they were just like lashing out the best they could and maybe if they teamed up they had a better chance I'm not saying that they would but maybe going forward they will so that will be interesting we need to see the Frankie docking again I think that Nerfs Frankie like if he attach if he attaches the weak straw hats to him that Nerfs Frankie like what he has Usopp as an arm Nami as a leg that'll be huge I don't know Frankie and Robin maybe Frankie Robin gives Frankie Limbs and so like it's the call back where Battle Tactics 19 15 comes back and Robin wasn't a part of it but now we have the frin kind of thing going on so Robin's like I'm not going to join you but I'll Empower you and she does the gives him hands and legs and Frankie is like who and he's like this kind of Godzilla looking dude right like I could see that that would that would be kind of cool what if what if it turns out the Frankie doning is like the strongest ability the S hat to have like it would have ones shot ORS and morio together it's Sanji and Zoro in it yeah okay and Luffy's not in it he wasn't in the original so Luffy is jimbe in it is jimbe taking like I I I think jimbe and Luffy would join it yeah add them into it oh if it's five of them oh my God we're going to get a guran lagon ending when they become Galactic entities like they will Fusion ha like they will D their strongest attack listen I think Oda might bring the fusion ha from Dragon Ball like you know what I mean like some of these characters might fuse and like like oh oh oh remember uh uh the Holy Night saint fridge and mcell they could Fusion that would be kind of crazy imagine the holy Knights that we made up yeah yeah yeah but like imagine Zoro and Sanji having to Fusion that would be like Goku Vegeta a little bit right in some worlds i' say I'd say they I'd say they'd be Goku and Vegeta Sanji and Zoro diffuse yeah just two opposite doesn't hate Vegeta Goku was fine with doing the dance so like Sanji and zor it'd be like Vegeta and Vegeta that hates himself like it would be two vegetas yeah two vegetas there we go Vegeta and Nappa no Nappa like Nat Nappa really like Vegeta until the Betrayal Vegeta and Frieza or like maybe Goku and Frieza no but Goku still likes everybody Goku doesn't really work because Zoro would hate it and Sanji would hate it so it have it would have to be like uh and 17 and cell 18 and cell no 17 and cell well I I I feel like Vegeta and Frieza would be like the best one yeah Vegeta yeah or like King Vegeta and Bardock like I don't know if they didn't they hate each other or something like that like that's why we have we didn't really get too many scenes with them I don't think we have any scenes with them actually I thought that's why Bardock got hit like [ __ ] missions where he was like going to die but then he kept on living and then King Vegeta's like that's scorn or something like I'm pretty sure I remember that oh maybe maybe yeah yeah I don't recall the episode of Bardock that well all I remember is the ending where he fights like chill for some reason yeah yeah he goes back in the past and becomes the Legendary Super Saiyan Frieza and Piccolo Frieza and Piccolo they don't have too many interactions like yeah yeah they fight and they get killed but like they don't really talk much I I I think Frieza and Vegeta was like the best one yeah yeah you're right yeah we'll leave it there but yeah yeah like I that would be crazy honestly I don't know if I'd like that but I could my point being is that like I I've said my mind R video which again like last chapter uh you know like to say it's more Canon than not now and and in that video the entire video was a Dragon Ball reference because my take was that Oda looked at the key sense that Toriyama introduced and like buffed certain things so like like you look at certain aspects of how like Shanks is talking to people the gor say it's just a better version of what we saw like King Kai and there's other aspects to that like when yasa and Usopp I think that that is something Odo will introduce because that's something Oda is nitpicky about with these non- Canon things it's the power so what yab showed probably is a thing and that is a Dragon Ball literally a Dragon Ball ability and so when it comes to especially in a world post Toriyama I could see Oda even like changing some things making it more of a tribute to Dragon Ball and as a as an example of that people don't know this that when Naruto ended Oda wanted to make the entire chapter a Naruto reference he was going to he literally on the record said he was going to draw Luffy looking like Naruto that's how much he would have tributed Naruto's ending the first uh series ending um um not boruto uh and he he he the only reason why he didn't it was because his schedule didn't line up with the ending uh with of Naruto Naruto had a scheduled ending that Kishimoto had to meet and it just cut off Odo is in the middle of uh rosan an's uh death story so he couldn't break it up to have Luffy in it but if with Toriyama 1,000% 1,00% we're going to get more references and fusion ha is one of those I think it's one of those legendary ones that I think Oda could easily meme if it's not in the same light as like Riso it could be in the same is Riso with with ninjas or it could be an actual thing that the the holy Knights or or like meaning meaningfully bring up like somehow or like these future characters bring up somehow it would be interesting speaking about Frankie and Fus fusioning um so this chapter is so crazy this chapter is so wild all the doors it opens honestly and now the next door that it opens is the door to Rob Luchi versus Zoro yeah it's crazy we haven't even gotten there yet that's wild yeah I mean we're almost done we're almost done we got two pages left yeah we already [ __ ] on Usopp thing but so we don't need to talk about that yeah so Zoro wins which is nice I'm glad this fight has a proper conclusion yeah I I was afraid a little bit that uh this would be like hey zor we got to go and then they leave or you know something happens and they're both like hey let's bounce uh I'm glad it ended this way it makes Luchi look good it makes Zoro look good and also Sanji I love seeing the Sanji Zoro Dynamic you know going back to the whole uh what Vegeta Frieza kind of thing yeah it it is it is a lot of fun yeah like literally um somebody made the meme where it's like yo like Zoro was sleeping when Luchi said everything about him earlier but the minute Sanji says something it's it's a different story yeah yeah someone made an edit saying like uh Zoro can't even be an African animal and then zoro's dot dot dot turns to African and then does this I'm like Oh my king of lightning retweeted that one I [ __ ] died but like like like the memes are funny all that stuff but yeah I I do like how cuz I think we both were on a boat where it's like um you know oda's not going to show Luchi in a terrible light and I wouldn't even say that this is terrible um because it's like it's weird I I saw people saying like oh it took like three hits from gear five and they're trying to like comparatively power scale this like one hit from Zoros three hits from gear five blah blah blah that means Zoro just can handle gear five I'm like I don't know about that because it's like you know this is the context of this is so different we offs screened like six months of panels um and this is like it's not like an equal Clash we don't see the outcome of Zoro per se actually we do actually we do see the outcome of and we don't even get a good grasp of like is he okay because it could be that they even clash and it's one of those shown in things where I think dragon ball made this standard where they have the face oh no it's Pokemon Pokemon where you have the two Pokemon like you you're on one side and then the Pokemon's in the in the background and the whole climax was which Pokemon Falls oh my God oh my God Pikachu fell and then like ash loses right and it's like oh Pokemon made that thing like a standard where it was like you would end every fight with one Pokemon at least the close ones one and then you'd be like is the front one or is it the back one which one fell which one fell right oh I never saw like that where like Zoro might not be okay after this is that what you're saying yeah I mean we didn't when I was reading the chapter I was like oh we don't even get like an like like he doesn't even land like when we saw for example Zoro versus kaido if we cut at this part where Zoro cut kaido zoro's Still Standing but we know that Zoro is like yo I'm down that this was my entire body this is everything right so this panel kind of if we paralleled it there we would be cutting off the part where Zoro collapses and we don't know necessarily uh uh zoro's standpoint and he could be fine he could be fine but then Oda also created a situation where there's a Jim Bay perfectly there to carry Zoro right so if Zoro is down just like he was against King right after he took out king he was down and he had to be carried by Frankie so it's like we're we're we're not seeing that would be wild what if Zoro couldn't move after this I I'm just imagining so I I love seeing what people have to say online I think it's hilarious half the time so like dude the memes that would come out if Zoro couldn't move after this would be insane it would be it would be a a bad week for Zoro fans see how the discourse goes yeah yeah obviously the discour aside and like that's where I'm kind of at where it's like they were fighting for a very long time and it's like yeah uh if Zoro like Jim like yeah sanji's carried Zoro jinbe's carried Zoro uh Frankie's carried zor or not jimbe Frankie carried Zoro so it's like jimbe carrying Zoro is not that weird post fight like literally everybody has done that on the crew and that's kind of I think zoro's entire point he's the he's the uh uh like he's the spear he's the he's the main Fighter for the straw hats Luffy doesn't count in that regard because like Luffy's always on his own which is like with kaido or big mom or with kakur Luffy will be on his own and it's characters like Sanji and Zoro who's supposed to carry and Zoro is like the last battalion there's not a single even Sanji would be like like um oh my God there's a giant demon bird flying towards Nami and Robin oh zoro's there you know what I mean like I don't have to worry even if it's a demon bird it zoro's there it's fine and that's kind of Vice Versa too Zoro would look at like hey if Chopper Usopp whatever was split and and like a demon bird was going to them like oh sanji's there he's not going to let anything happen right that's kind of the mutual agreement and so I don't think it would be like negative for Zoro but I could see the discourse but I don't think it' be negative either I looked at this I was like oh man I think he might be like there like Oda created the perfect situation for him to collapse and be out of gas for a moment right uh jimbe is right there perfect perfect tank jimbe was literally shown flying like and he literally what did he say right before this he said sounds like the situation is dire if he's still fighting I'll drag him back by force and it's like yeah maybe he's fighting his own demons remember last time he was fighting a grim reaper after after the fight so it's like maybe this time jimbe sees the Grim Reaper like hey yo y what the hell is this what's this Bleach character doing here right like what the hell is this guys come on yeah yeah so like I yeah I mean the favorite Parts Sanji goting on Zoro Zoro ending it quick I like the way it ended for sure I'm curious if Zoro lands on his two feet dang I didn't even think about that like will Zoro be okay next chapter I kind of want him to be yeah mainly because I I do want him to see the goray and clash with the gors or at least like throw a slash their way and also realize that hey these guys are kind of weird like they regenerate you know I we got to like do something about this that's kind of why I would want him to be up uh not necessarily like the agenda even but you know just which I think agenda pieces I think it's hilarious I don't like it but I love the memes I I eat the memes up like no other which is why like Zoro falling would be hilarious that week yeah and it it would be I think it also could make sense as hey like if Venus was up here maybe Zoro would like there would be a reason for him to meet the gor but like if he's playing itsumade and people are out here thinking Usopp is going to do something right then imagine a Zoro doing something Zoro could probably actually stall off the the itsumade for a decent while maybe not completely win I don't we don't know the the ceilings for the other gors but maybe this is how how Oda creates the danger Zoro is there they need to protect him they can't lose him to itsuma he can't defend himself this is like the sabba OD a little bit Zoro was like injured going into it but um yeah like him falling also isn't that crazy CU you know going into this I think we both talked about it like I kind of looked at Zoro I like Luchi was a Luffy antagonist he gets that push up there and yeah now Luffy's above wherever his past antagonist were that that rung Luffy sueded that in yonos like we don't know what Luffy is doing so Zoro elevates himself and I could see Luchi being stronger than Zoro but I could also see it being like like how Luffy fought Zoro the first time where yeah Luffy won but he collapsed multiple times and at the end of it he still collapsed and he was tired so like if Zoro collapses after a fight of with awakened Luchi Post Time Skip it's not the weirdest thing to me damn dude but that means that jimbe is on box Duty again all jimbe does this is just move people left and right I mean did we want him to come in and stalemate it completely yeah but like it no I no I I agree this is the best way to end it like I I'm glad Zoro did end it but it's like dang jimbe all he's doing is moving boxes bro like yeah give my man a different job I mean yeah like the thing is jimbe is also one of those weird characters because like in a lot of ways he should be stronger than what we've seen him of as an example Marine Ford that jimbe is this jimbe it's not like jimbe went through a Time skip where he became insanely strong no the jimbe that you see right now who isn't even doing all that much like who's who didn't really like he he got mad he got triggered and then he just clocked him and that was it we it's like jimbe hasn't really had an even foe like he really hasn't the most like we've seen of like evenness was when he stood off of big mom and then threw off the ship but we know big mom would beat jimbe so it's like we don't know what jimbe and even I think he he was confident that he could take on hod right like like I don't even think yeah he said that he could beat hod but he said that wasn't like the right no did he say that was the right way or not the right way it wasn't the right way like he wanted Luffy to prostrate as a hero but Luffy didn't want to be a hero and so right needed to have like some kind of progression like it's just me beating down there would be no value to this right um and but they also said the same thing for Luffy too that that's why they came up with a Sher hosi plan because they said if if lff just shows up and beats hod then that would just be a human solving their problems right and but like and so my point being is like jimbe is insane Jim Jim is crazy and like like he he has the same low-key portrayal as Ivan kov except he was a solo warlord who was like with big mom with uh uh Whitebeard beard and like he has like mythical like people literally call him like a mythical creature like as a fisherman and so it's like jimbe jimbe also handed like took a fisted ayu's magma fist pre-time skip like that was a thing he held him back and he also tanked uh the same attack that killed Ace too yeah so it's like like jimbe coming over here we we always said it it would be Luchi would have no chance like I don't even and people bring up Who's Who as a benchmark for jimbe and saying like oh jimbe wouldn't stand a chance against uh Luchi look how he fared against hu I'm like I don't think that that was like jinbe's full de in that fight I'm not saying Luchi would lose against jimbe but I think that fight would be kind of crazy like jimbe is not a slou she's an semi older dude who was a warlord and has been active and survived like the big mom Pirates basically solo let's let's be real the other fishermen would have died all together like and jimbe survived made it to wano and then you know he's still not being pushed and so you know I I would I would think that Zoro could go down here and jimbe could offer meaningful resistance uh to to to the yeah yeah yeah I wouldn't mind that no I think I think that's good that that's some that's honestly like one of the things I did not think of with this chapter just like Zoro going down which I mean yeah we don't even see his eyes when he when he falls yeah yeah that that which we could say like oh Zoro is losing Consciousness zoro's tired or you could say zoro's just looking badass like you could go either way with it so I'm kind of curious to see what happens next chapter now do do you remember this what you just said is exactly what happened after the King fight people were looking for zoro's eyes they thought he was straight up dead remember that when veny carried him people were like oh my god did he lose a leg did he lose an arm because there was like a weird sha shading and they were thinking that we'd come out and he would be like limbless or something or and they were all looking at his eyes and Oda did hide his eyes up until we ended up seeing him uh uh like recovering with Luffy but um you know as far as seeing things that you know some other people may not see I'd like to I'd like to commere the memes and be like that's the that's the a par Vision you know oh my God someone said it in the thing they asked a question saying like like next chapter Dragon shows up and it means something to Zoro and I put a spin on it and all of a sudden now it's my theory someone showed up in your stream and said oh yep that's me tapping into the par I'm like no I said it was a joke what do you mean and you're didn't even defend you knew was a joke he like I think par was joking you really can't tell with him I was like are you joking s like I think par is being serious right there guys I I I really think he uh he thinks that dragon is zoro's um zoro's father yeah yeah and and that I like I tuned in in parts in that stream last night because I was like I came back after putting Zen to sleep again and I almost missed it and I heard it I was like are you serious right now this dude just put the memiest Theory and you're like yeah man par man dud he was cooking with this one yeah par famously famously reading 18 piece like that's not even close to two piece or three piece Zoro zoro's dad is dragon is crazy well I mean you did so like I think yesterday you said that Dragon visited shimotsuki Village which he did and that's when you said that he laid the seed there too I said none of that by the way you go go back in the Stream and I no no I I remember hearing that one to one this is the oh my God the side vision is crazy the the Psychopaths the psychopath Psychopathic telepathy right now it's pretty good yeah psychopath I like that yeah not C psychopathy that was actually like on the board of names when I was doing YouTube yeah I was like I can do psychopath but the spelling looked really weird with the V which is why I didn't do it yeah yeah it' be S Cathy and people like people might might call you copath might call you path like they might not know so you know you did a good thing the S path of pain uh so final parts of the chapter we got uh we don't have too much time left but final parts of the chapter J Peter eats Luffy Luffy almost dies right here actually I I I saw um the the T like Tu continued got slashed off and it just said the end but thankfully Dori and brogy slashed that off and they cut jupeter into pieces uh Doran brogy man kind of strong yeah yeah uh this is real quick I just want when you said that like the tub continued thing I was just thinking imagine like Jupiter's power is the Tob continued sign like you know how like people think like Luffy's bending reality and emu might be writing the manga panels and and we'll see manga panels break imagine if Jupiter has been the 2B continu sign this entire time and it's just been inside his mouth it's so every episode has ended with Jupiter just swallowing that'd be kind of funny oh that would be sick yeah oh dude I saw somebody um so you know how like the whole like oh like they're going to break the manga panels that's going to be a thing yeah we talked about that a long time ago and that's a common idea but I forgot who it was there was like some there was some Creator I I don't remember who now but they were like hey like I had an original idea like this is going to be crazy but I think emu's going to break the manga panels and they posted that like last week and I was like no that's a common theory you can't dear this stop yeah yeah yeah I forget I I think it was in lie of Toriyama passing away cuz he famously yes that's what it was popularized it and so that came back but yeah that is the original thing when people first thought about that um was everybody referenced like hey dra Toriyama did this and we know that Oda loves Toriyama and if he's making uh like an Ode to all these other things Dragon Ball would be one of them just like me and then the but the manga panel one was something I didn't know cuz I didn't read uh dragon ball like that I remember seeing it in the in the scope of the internet previously but yeah when people brought it up the first thing were like yo Toriyama did this I could see Luffy like bending it and I'd love that love that I even made one of my theories is U oh I remember now I was saying that emu uh this is back when uh my Shadows Theory and I was saying that um the void Sentry is the the the Katakana be behind the void Sentry empty throne and emu they're all connected so void empty and emu emu would have some kind of name scheme to void which what is what we're seeing now if the moo thing pans out as the the the the final understanding of it but void empty uh thing I was saying that the void centy was named after emu that part came true but what I was saying was that it would be interesting cuz like Blackbeard's panels the Blackbeard giant panel for example it has no no borders there's no borders it's just blank white background and there's only a few times in the series where Oda does that and I remember then after that people are like oh yeah that's crazy because then it would be like a Toriyama type of thing of getting breaking interacting with the the borders and I was like oh that's wild and then the painting stuff and then like you said like a lot of people you know again the the Toriyama thing that's existed for 30 years right like it's a said I'm making references to Tom and Jerry and all these things I really love yeah so it's like that at the end of the day that's like that being a unique one's kind of funny but um but uh it just reminded me because um it I I'm afraid of the day when I bring up the theory again and then people are like oh you're stealing this guy's Theory huh because I I that's like one of the things I hate the most cuz I forgot what it was I I talked about I think it was just astral projection I was like yeah like I'm starting to believe this this Theory now yeah uh and then some or and then I talked about like the whole thing with like the Emu and the gors potentially being satellites which are all old theories and then somebody was like oh you're stealing this guy's Theory it's like dude like no it's it's like common like everybody thinks like everybody's had this idea at one point especially now yeah yeah and it's like dude I don't even watch YouTube theories man like yeah yeah like after talking about the chapter for so long like I I kind I don't want to look at this chapter anymore yeah it like out of here it it's like again it's no offense but like I I look at it like this right when I said that mindr was a thing telepathy was a thing I at the time people literally responded saying that's magic that does you you're reading twopiece blah blah blah right that's also way different than if I like last week was like I think telepathy is going to be a crazy thing guys like it's going to be in the one piece thing like after the goray show it like that's very different point of like you know um of of of origination of the idea you know what I mean the closer you get to it the easier it is to say but that's also why it's like like some of these theories when you're like chapter out it's hard to say like oh this is my theory right that's why when I like on stream I'm like I'm sure I'm sure most of these things have already been said right like that small thing of me saying like Zoro uh uh falling down that's just my reaction now is that a full Theory that's not even a full Theory but you said like you haven't like you haven't thought about that but I'm sure someone has thought about that like I can't be the only Zoro here and said like yo he didn't land we don't know if he landed like I feel like there's going to be a lot of people that that h on to that so it's like some one of those things mind yeah there's like millions of people who read the same story that we do I'm sure there's like at least a hundred a thousand people who also thought of the same thing that's how most theories are even you know just it's like super super unique like Chef mcell ain't nobody thinking I think uh chef Mike is definitely the most unique idea that we've cooked up recycle Cur recycle Cur that if someone else comes out with aite oh my God I always thought this was the case but those are like so but the theories that we cook up together sometimes those are theories that would probably never happen but it's it's like that 0.001% chance that makes it unique hey some of our ideas come through and ones that we know are kind of out there we label them we label them we know which ones are c yeah we know they're silly yeah yeah but like but then there's other ones right well okay okay on separate from you but like I think the gors have hockey why was that funny no Sai he paints his blade black are you joking Hawk learned it from someone we don't know if they have observation hockey it's it's never confirmed yeah you know you know what's even crazier than that take a guess and say they have observation hockey we don't even need to look at the sword to know that they have hockey by this chapter Luchi literally goes what's that strange hockey out there you know what I mean like he tells us he tells us straight up that that's hockey right and I think jimbe also lowkey was like yo that that seems I know jimbe said ominous presence right like energy I don't know if he specifically did he say hockey he might he ominous presence yeah so Luchi specifically said aren't you curious about where all this strong hockey is from so like yeah boom we got hockey they have hockey great awesome we're past that now you know like oh my God oh my God yeah but this um this uh this this um last double spread page what uh thing is interesting we I I don't know what we're doing with this the mouth and the scar and the chin strap it's all interesting but like hey I like the worm I'm not mad at it the teeth great Edition Oda the name you know I want clarifications and I don't know if I can rely on viz for that so Oda if you could please spell it out in English like you did laugh tail let me know because you know that' also be cool too go for the sandworm thing yeah yeah yeah um I I feel like so far TCB is the only place that I saw them spell it like this yeah so I'm really curious to see what other translators will say I think the I've seen more sand worms than sand worm yeah I think the most like it's kind of like mother flame mother frame in that they would both have a similar spelling in Katakana but what I pointed out on stream and some people verified too is that there would be other ways to spell both words um and B because it's a it's based off of syllables you're transliterating uh based off of syllables of foreign words um it's not like guki or yeah guki and all these other Japanese names this one it wouldn't have made sense if Oda just put the kanji for sand in worm and made a sandw worm because it's the name of it so he's deriving it from a foreign context and there's a different way to spell it like both of our names we'd be able to spell it in at least three different ways and it all come even if you have a different dialect than how you pronounce some stuff that would change the Katakana in some ways um so it it's not that it's a huge deal I'm just curious uh yeah me too and and it it lends itself to the idea that like Oda seems very specific with the goray especially their names their powers what they're showing what they're godheads of there's so many intricate parts that I I want to know actually what Oda intended with these characters I don't want this to be a mystery if Oda is depicting this like a hey I'm revealing dealing everything about the gor say figure it out figure out what emu is figure out what the holy Knights are right if we're starting off with the false premise like the mother flame mother frame which that one's less egregious than like you know us not knowing what this truly is in oda's perspective when he's trying to reveal it is a little tough but that again Oda has been playing with the Katakana spelling the only English word he's ever done technically and it's right in the manga is laugh taale he spelled it out in English but um there's been times where he's he's redacted some other stuff but um but that being said uh we did get the ultimate thing that we were kind of like do are are these guys casually just walking up and slicing slicing and dicing they are dude they did and it doesn't look like he hockey there's no lightning there's no Armament It's Just Smiles no ryuo nothing no less than the island eater that's what Jupiter the island eater and the punk Victoria got more respect than jupeter here yeah yeah and arguably this is a little bit more dangerous because they don't know where Luffy is in the in this thing they could have sliced him no that's what are you talking about that's their observation hockey at full at full play oh oh they said it in the chapter they said oh try not to hit him and he said yeah I see where he's at wait did they say that no I'm kidding I'm sorry I was like wait what I'm sorry I I didn't think you'd double check it I'm sorry I apologize I was like I I'm literate now I'm just like Dragon but worse you know like I'm just like Dragon guys no yeah yeah uh if you guys don't know what that reference that's my latest dragon video but yeah like obviously it's like kizaru slicing and dicing the the thing he could have easily cut them up but observation Fe right observation hocky feed but it is wild right like there's more Giants they're not even stressing they're smiling they're laughing like they're like Luffy we're literally about to see giant fod just pop up to like in the very next chapter and just start boxing wary Saturn and all these guys insane if people are mad about five having the audacity of smiling through all of the stuff even though that's his like sort of character trait maybe even a curse like we're going to have non- cursed Giants fod Giants smiling like this Gaba and gag Gaga and they're going to run up on these dudes and I like yeah sure they can regenerate but that doesn't stop like Jupiter from getting sliced in half like this this is the discussion of difference between uh durability and just like hacks like this is not durability this is just they're so strong bro like somebody somebody said it and it's it's a joke that I think just gets funnier with time it's one of those Timeless jokes but they're like yo imagine if Mr 3 was on the island like imagine what he could do to the gor say yeah it's like you're not you're not exactly wrong yeah like I saw I know dude like you know and and we talked about this a little bit like maybe the Giants formed there was a scheme like it wasn't a honorable fight they were motivated it's like the way they went the way they went out because technically they hurt each other and they were just like so it's like there's all that stuff but like this is still wild like from start to end of this chapter they like the when the Saturn came in they said vice Admirals in below or commodor and Below whatever it is don't look run away go to the ships that's how scary St Saturn's landfall is in a chapter called planetfall yes titles planetfall five planets have fallen onto this land and the Giants see it they Luchi can feel it from an from the sky literally a sky away and the Giants are just laughing and walking strolling and it's like they're like golfing like their Tiger Woods at a mini golf park like they just casually chop his head off like it's not even like a dual attack where they hit the same angle no no no they they slice him from two different angles which I guess would help it to be honest uh that is like the most effective way to cut him but still it's like yeah like you could just chop this guy in half I think Zoro could cut this guy in like to a thousand pieces pull a little Pika and like I I'm going to go out on a limb and like yeah you could say it's a named attack but like this doesn't even feel like a named attack this just feels like they made up a like some like deep sounding phrase right when Luffy was eaten by the darkness he's like like child of the sawing son and like you know what I mean like it doesn't even feel like this was it's it's a named attack but it's also part of their conversation like they said hey did you see him what a nostalgic face a dark belly is no place for someone like that let's go child of the sawing son oh yeah so it's not even that's what I'm saying yeah like let's go Sun God get out of here like they lit like I don't know man yeah and even the notes TCB says it says it makes it almost seem like a continuation of their dialogue about Darkness being no place for Luffy so like from multiple angles like this is as casual as casual can get you know what I mean like yeah this is I don't know how to even relate this to anybody can can Zoro do this because if because I I think Zoro if Dorian brogi can cut this guy I think Zoro can with no named attack like mid conversation with sanj okay well so so we have to power scale named attacks now right yeah so we have named attacks that are specialized like what Zoro did to Luchi in this chapter we have normal named attacks and then we have named attacks that are just part of a conversation that that's how I would scale them yeah I feel like Zoro could do it with the same scale the name attack and like so Sanji and Zoro yeah yeah Sanji and yeah they could just Sanji could just like kick through him and then Zoro could just SL like SCE Zoro versus Dory brogi oh man I I want to give that to Sanji and Zoro but I don't even know anymore dude like these guys are being like we haven't seen them lose yet like they've been riding this this power scaling hide right now and like we have to recognize like Sanji is running away from in this chapter and I'm not saying that as like oh sanji's a wimp whatever right what I'm saying is like in that same chapter where sanji's like yo I can't explain in words something's terrifying happening he did stand off of them with Saturn yeah no fear right but the point is in this chapter sanji's running away we don't even know if Zoro is going to be making it to the itsumade fight and meanwhile Dory rogy and the Hooligans are just hey bro you see that hanging out dude they're going to DAV Busters that's us that's what we we came here that buster call that wasn't even warmup that was getting out of bed the G say they're our little Bros time to show them what what we did a 100 years ago right like like I think it' be so disrespectful if the no-name Giants come in next chapter and they start boxing Saturn and uh warc couldi and and it it would be absurd to like like I feel like one V one Dory versus Zoro zor Zoro wins easily like not even maybe not easily but like it that's what it feels like it should be but like is is it going to end up that way like it's kind of scary it's a little scary that the Giants coming and showing like this yeah I mean to be fair J Peter is not done yet yeah but like it's still like damn dude like the fact that they can cut him I mean I guess you know going back to Saturn I mean technically Kuma like punched him through a building and broke his arm Frankie shot through him but but like take the casualness into account Kuma yeah had the force yeah 30 30 years of pain and suffering and sure he wasn't himself fine but like he hockey fisted up blew him through buildings yeah s was fine but like this again the emphasis on how casual Oda made the Giants in this chapter opposed to everybody else when Sanji was was blocking when Frankie was blocking it wasn't casual they were they were trying they were doing stuff right and like Luffy is casual by Nature now and not casual but like lack like nonchalant I would get I'd say more like people can't even make it like kaido brought him to a gear five serious thing where like Luffy was angry Luffy was doing things right um um whereas like we haven't really seen that out of Luffy just yet despite you know some of the scenes and it's like the Giants are showing up like gear five Luffy lowkey without any like we don't have any reason to put them anywhere close to gear five as far as demeanor as far as personality like oh personality is a side but like like power right like it's it's so weird it's so weird and then it's not how koku sovereignty you know what I mean and they like he they didn't even like acknowledge they didn't even like face to face he just showed up and sliced them you know it was very casual like at this point maybe it's Dory broi do what Zoro did to Monae no no no here's here's a good one this is like Luffy and Zoro when they saw Mr Mr five was it the booger guy and the lemon girl yeah yeah Miss like all Sunday no Sunday was Robin Wednesday no phebe Tuesday yeah something Tuesday it it was one of the days man like Miss Valentine's Day yes yes it was Miss Valentine's Day yeah yeah yeah yeah Blonde one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's just a very nonchalant like hey get out of our way you're you know you're blocking with you're blocking the prize here just get to Luffy MH I mean with you Peter like I know he's not out but just being cut this easily is kind of crazy yeah like like you I think what would have made this really nice is if Dory and Bry were like damn that's a tough hide but we're still going to go through you know like oh okay you know J Peter you know it's pretty tough guy to cut okay but um no none of that just sayy you're blocking the sun god man no hockey needed no Black Blade needed no like they used observation hockey but like on Luffy theoretically so it's like yeah I saw something really funny somebody said and it's it's something I would say too where it's like well I mean technically baragi took down a VA with with one swing no hockey so does this and now that dory's here does this mean that a v like two vas equal one goresy member I'm like maybe maybe that's a thing I the goofy power scaling it's it's hilarious dur ability goes yes like like they like there's no like that's the thing like Venus can't be this flimsy you know what I mean Venus there's no way I can see him being like torn apart like this and just regenerating like can he regenerate sure let's give it to him but will he be handled like this I don't think so and that's what's weird it's like Saturn was like it like I was hoping was a one-off thing because like like this is this is a thing just because you have the power of regeneration and let's say it's it's Costless like it doesn't cost you anything to use it you like you still don't use it like this like there's it's like not like I don't know it's hard to say I'm remembering like there's a jjk thing where it's like people edit it with buggy instead and was the plant person the plant person is like regenerating through all the cuts and stuff like that and like well that made sense cuz it's they're probably just like flexing on a situation like that was a cold appearance but this isn't cold this isn't cool at all seeing his head lopped off and Saturn blown through buildings and coughing up blood is not the same thing as walking through active war zone and just getting taken hits after hit and instantly regenerating like like I'm thinking like sort are online uh probably the only good scene that like people can like say like you can't deny that part was kind of cool when he maxed out his stats so far ahead of everybody else that when an entire guild of like assassins came to attack him he just stood there because his his re his defense regen and armor was so insane that they they could not even land a blow that made him drop a tick right and that's cool that's not what's happening here in that thing he just walked across a bridge they were trying to fight him and he was unperturbed that's not that's not this that's not what Saturn was showing that's not what jup Peter is showing his head is lopped off and maybe maybe he goes the route of growing more worm stuff so it works for him but that's not how Saturn was shown and like like I don't I wouldn't like it if all of the gors are depicted like this where just like papier-mâché that never die and then there's just like this Pap mâché That Never Dies yeah like it's no I I agree I mean like you know when people say the Regeneration thing is cool I I agree like yeah like that that is something we could fall back on and that's why I fall back on you know Saturn a lot like hey like doesn't look great but I mean at least he's regenerating but even then like go to any anime any other anime where you have somebody who regenerates they they still like take no damage or they still fight really well yeah and it's like the Regeneration is just like on top of everything else like over here that's like that's like they're bread and butter yeah yeah and like if you're just pure regeneration healing class like that's a support thing and those characters are also depicted in a way different way where they're like surviving the onslaught to sacrifice themselves by the end of it the gors aren't going to do anything like that and they haven't been uh the most like impressive thing is there that you know they all took their roles they're all doing their own thing I like that no talk maybe they're using telepathy that's cool I would like to see them use the force I think also another example is what's cool about St Venus botu was like this hybrid form and like him in human form and doing stuff and like it it maybe that's the trend like these forms are just like like kaido in Dragon full Dragon like he has the defenses and then when he goes into hybrid I guess he's like slightly less defense ensive but he's more com like offensive so maybe that's what we end up getting but like if that's the case why are they being deped depicted like this right now against the Giants against K Devon Kuma Bonnie whatever whatever character Sanji anything mom yeah yeah our hypothetical Mom that's you paralleled analogize to to Zoro um but yeah yeah so like again the gor say is gonna be fine I'm not worried it's just there's an ink link where they like some of them fall they're not durable yeah yeah and I don't I don't know if all of them going to show like St Venus St Venus is showing us stuff like I could see more of that and be excited imagine imagine Brooke fights Venus and then Venus is like oh no my bones are broken and then he has to like recover from that it's like damn I don't know yo there's a world where Brooke can like take over his body it's like an empty dead vessel right like maybe if he's actually the yo-kai that's worse from Brooke that'd be crazy if Brooke could just like possess him who knows who knows like that that's could do the astro Projection that people wanted the gors to have as much as we slandered them I really I really hope for the best man yeah I I hope I hope they I hope next chapter they put up a really good fight it would just suck if like some of the final villains that been hyped up for so long just keep on getting waxed even if they do regenerate even if they do regenerate right just you know have them landed nice hit where we like you know like even in arlong feet where arlong bit Luffy and Luffy was like oh damn like that really hurt his teeth are strong like just just one line one line saying wow these guys are powerful like everything so far is just like wow they're scary nothing but Power though you know yeah and Luffy's like I I don't know why I'm not damaging them and that's just that's more frustrated as like Luffy gave more respect to the seraphim like yo they're as tough as kaido and like he hasn't even said that about these guys you're right he hasn't said that about them damn he's just confused and like like listen confusion works well in fights especially street fights but like it the thing is that's why I was saying earlier that like this reveal is like it's almost bittersweet because it I think I think most people I've talked to think that the gor saves reveal especially last chapter feels a little early getting the full reveal yeah we're brain broken by Oda hiding it but even from a Bas standpoint if these were the end villains revealing them like this is crazy because like I don't even feel like we got full reveals of the Blackbeard Pirates we got like inklings but we got more of the goray now than van auger and Jesus Burgess and and in stronger we have more about the goray than than them and like again going back to it Oda did say originally this is a story about Pirates fighting the yonos and the world government was propped up again I'm not going to say that like right now they're fod not that they're like just a breeze in the wind for the end of the story but they're also like in this weird bucket of like they're not scary but they are scary but not to us but like like yeah everybody who's watching the transmission if we cut to the feed right now terrifying these are the world leaders scary but like that doesn't apply to us when Luffy's out here like like jump roping pancaking Pizza tossing them and laughing and and then the two guys who got be beat by Mr 3 technically by a TKO they come in casually walking strolling slice them not even name move just midc conversation right like and then you add the context of like hey if zoro's out for the count they're not going to even fight Zoro so like Zoro is not going to fight them so it's like is that a real is that a real opponent if Zoro is not even up for it right it's like and then sanji's still on his way dropping off fga Punk we don't know what he's going to do afterwards is he going to go back for Luffy is he going to stay on the ship with Frankie we have no clue yet yeah and so like it's a weird realm because like we believe in the goray but like slowly and surely like a cap is being put on on where they go and I'm starting to feel like like the uide Emu is still separate in my mind but the goray is like like Oda is using that to introduce possibly insane holy nights because at least we know like for Garland has to be a combatant a combatant like to a certain extent we saw him actually fighting we never really seen these guys like in combat right like they've been in a room and so it's like maybe they're just really scary and really terrifying but like maybe the holy Knights are the terrifying plus the combat and then emu's everything right they could be an endstage villain but right now like yo like Shanks and Blackbeard vers like if if Luffy face off against Shanks and Blackbeard right now I might be more afraid of Shanks and Blackbeard a little bit we're like duoed you know like the duo oh yeah Duo like two of the strongest people in the world yeah yeah yeah and then we're supposed to have five like like I'm not going to say five Shanks but like let's line up Shanks mihawk uh uh GARP uh uh like some of these end stage characters you put five of them five of your top five in this room I think you're more scared of that top five put kaido big mom GARP uh uh ainu Shanks is that more than take one out whatever it is and and I think we are still a little bit more afraid of those five than the gor which is weird yeah I I would agree yeah Shanks mihawk ainu Shanks mihawk ainu kaido kaido and it's throwing GARP just throw R like GARP is alive but like even GARP oh I I didn't put Blackbeard in there sorry yeah Blackbeard yeah I was say like I'm missing a very obvious one and you can even tap people in and out you can tag them in tag them out you can put Rob Luchi in there to be hon you could squeeze Rob Luchi in place of like a even the Saturn of the group because Saturn is like what Luchi would be in that realm of like if you put Luchi against mihawk yeah like he's not doing right he's he's should be skinned alive right so it's like I am and and in no world is Dory and broi walking up to any of those any of those midc conversation slashing no nobody in the verse is walking up casually to any of those five let alone a group of them you know that's why how about this here's uh H the last thing we're going to talk about okay what do you think about he's kind of slipped our minds a little bit but kizaru is here you know speaking like because you said of kind of like kizaru is here I don't know what he's going to do at this point you know at first you know him betraying Saturn I I could see that because it's just one guy at this point I can't I can't see a betrayal like like all of his bosses are here dude he's going to get a pay cut heavily yeah he's on his knees please forgive me yeah so I I don't know like what what do you think kizaru's role is now see that's why I personally before if you remember 11:08 uh before we knew that Saturn was going to bring reinforcements I was saying like the holy knights we needed to they from the chessboard it felt like we went through the entire thing if you go back to that episode went through every single option and it only made sense that Saturn summoned somebody how we don't know at that point the holy Knights made sense and the holy Knights made sense because they would not cannibalize kizaru's role in the thing where it's like this entire time he's been the front man Saturn hasn't done nearly as much as kizaru in in most regards he raided the island he dis disheveled most of it he took down the ship that Vega Punk was doing uh uh if anything the moment Saturn came is when Kazar is taking the most L's right like on both sides he lost his friend and like uh he had to even uh the broadcast is going up all these things right Luffy's reviv kizaru is the one who put Luffy down in the first place and Saturn's there and he couldn't keep him down so it's like he got distracted by a 12-year-old girl in his hands and couldn't kill her by his own means had the vice admiral shoot at so it's like at at a lot of the ways you could frame it that kizaru's handicap is Saturn and now we have five handicaps and nusa Juro is the only one pulling pulling rank giving me hope he's the only maybe itum he has done anything buty cells aren't there yo straight into the thing when maybe he could blow like if can if they if the if the Marines thought their Buster call cannonballs would eventually get through just by Brute Force surely itsumade has some kind of ability that could break through the thing right like imagine instead of head first crashing into it relying on probably what's regeneration which again isn't even that impressive because Bonnie did it Bonnie did it a 12-year-old girl survived that Dome that the ituma a giant yo-kai mythical dragon uh bird lizard monster surviving it is a no-brainer you know what I mean it it it didn't even need to crash into it but you know uh uh when you when you're asking where kizaru lies it's like I think I think he's just saving the Marines at this point like I feel like that's what his the Marines out of here like I think he's essentially like if all five of them are there unless they call for him I don't think he has a reason to get back and right now the the the Marines are in a weird spot because the vice Admirals want to cat Bonnie Bonnie's going to the coast which is closer to kizaru KZ we don't know where Sanji is going so it might be like Oda creates this bubble with kizaru where the vice Admirals are actively going to Bonnie I think it's reiterated in this chapter they're taking out all the pacifistas which again is where Bonnie is going to end up being because they have Kuma plus they're on the coast where's nro's running perimeter and again we don't know where Sanji is but if karo's on the ships and they're being attacked by the pacifistas and now things are fine it might be that hey kizaru if if the flip thing is there then he might be he disengages right he lets nasu he lets everyone take care of stuff and unless nasaw is like hey yo kizaru get back you want your bonus for the end of the year get back here you know what I mean like I don't I don't see that happening imagine imagine J Peter's actually dying is like oh kizaru please save me and then kizaru like tips his Fedora just walks away makes yeah he just walks away and makes an exit I see you later dude it is like I don't know I I'm with you and and just like this question is so weird because kizaru is almost being treated like a side character in in a lot of ways where he's like he's like he's like the saru to kizaru and sabot right like we thought saru died on Egghead and he came back said some things it's like that's kind of where Kazar was at now with five of them here so it's like yeah what and the thing is you know what's even funnier is like I made a joke earlier that the summoning Circle might stay open and then ainu is at marriage raw and if he was going to talk to the say which would make sense after coming to protect it and Kumo was just there and he's like yo what's happening he's like hey what's this and he walks into it like like Scooby-Doo or Frankie or some type thing he walks into the thing and he's like jinkies and he ends up on Egghead jinkies I don't know like a kanu and kizaru team up and they're they would be more threatening still you know what I mean like oh yeah if they pulled out what a kuzan and a kindu did on Punk Hazard which would make sense because it's now Egghead which is Vega Punk Island if two Admirals came and terraformed the island again that just kind of is a pattern at this point like I don't know what to what to expect but like I think it's good news if aanu shows up for kizaru I think it's bad news in most regards because like Karu is just going to take a backseat and it would just be a narrative thing rather than like a like um we see what's going on

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