The Sopranos: Is Lilyhammer Silvio's Coma Dream?

Silvio Dante is the loyal and ever Dependable conciliary on The Sopranos played by Stephen Van Zandt the character's signature look in mannerisms made him one of the most recognizable symbols of the show in fact the Silvio Persona is so iconic it would even be used in another show to capitalize off The Soprano's success that show being Lilyhammer Lilyhammer is a comedy drama series about a mobster named Frankie the fixer who goes in to witness protection in the remote town of Lilyhammer in Norway running for three seasons the show had a distinction of being the first Netflix original though we'll look at what that actually means later on this show is fun with a lot of homages to The Sopranos and also features a number of actors from that series including of course Steven Van Zandt as the main character Frankie but some people think that the connection to The Sopranos goes deeper than references some people believe that the entire show is a dream happening while the character Silvio Dante is in a coma at the end of The Sopranos always with the scenarios all right a little recap for those who somehow don't know who Silvio is Silvio is the conciliary or advisor to Tony Soprano the boss of the demaio family Silvio is typically a step away from the street-level crimes of his compatriots instead focusing on running the bada bing strip club that acts as one of the headquarters for their criminal operation though Silvio typically remains in the background of most episodes there are a few times we really get to see his personality shine we learned that the normally common level-headed man is easily upset when he loses a gambling leave the [ __ ] cheese there all right I love [ __ ] cheese at my feet I stick [ __ ] provolone in my socks at night so they smell like your sister's crotch in the morning we also learned that he's particularly proud of his Italian heritage in the episode Christopher he uncharacteristically leads a charge to defend Christopher Columbus Day from Native American activists can I tell you what it is anti-italian discrimination Columbus Day is a day of Italian Pride it's our holiday and they want to take it away however the most iconic and endearing trait of Silvio is his habit of quoting The Godfather just when they thought I was out they pull me back in in fact his impersonation is so iconic more people attribute the line to him rather than Michael Corleone and Godfather 3. the impersonation was even used in a World of Warcraft commercial back in the day World of Warcraft free at warcraft.com what's your game in the penultimate episode of The Sopranos the Blue Comet Silvio is shot by the lubertazi family as part of the ongoing War With The Sopranos though he survives he's left in a coma and it's unlikely that he'll ever wake up called the hospital they wouldn't give no info on shell good brother finally formed back doctors don't think he'll recover consciousness the loss of Silvio is one of the most devastating things the family goes through all throughout the show Silvio has constantly supported Tony he's the only one who's really willing to give tony the real advice that he needs and not just what he wants to hear this is because they've known each other since they were very young and were part of a crew together in our early days while he was kids we had our own little crew me your dad Tony Silvio Dante when Tony becomes the boss of the DeMayo family he makes Silvio his conciliary and number two guy when Tony is shot and left in his own coma Silvio takes over his acting boss of the family though the stress of the job ultimately proves too much for Silvio he's still shown completely loyal to Tony never thinking of stealing power for himself unlike others such as Vito and Paulie so the loss of Silvio is a real blow to the family and part of the overall Bleak tone we see in the final episode all right so what exactly does this have to do with Lilyhammer well Lilyhammer tells the story of Frank the fixer tagliano after being set up for a hit by his boss he becomes an informant and enters to witness protection program he has to be sent to Lilyhammer in Norway both because no one will search for him there and also because he likes the country he then proceeds to get into various conflicts as he builds a new semi-criminal Enterprise in his new country the theory goes that this show in its entirety is Silvio's dream while he's in his coma after all when Tony was in his own coma he also had a dream in which he was living an alternate Life as a Salesman to go along with this idea when Tony is in a coma Silvio comes in and holds his hand and when Silvio is in his coma Tony does the same drawing a parallel between both experiences and finally for what it's worth Silvio also has this line in the show what do you speak Norwegian for now however there are a number of problems with this Theory for example in Tony's coma dream he's still named Tony Soprano good Morning Anthony Soprano do you please Tony is Kevin finnerty in his dream Kevin may represent a different part of Tony's subconscience but his main Consciousness is still called Tony and tied to Tony's experiences so why would Silvio have a completely different identity as Frank tagliano it's not only a case of a name he has a completely different backstory he's not even from New Jersey he's part of the New York families even if we say it's a dream and dreams can be weird you'd think that the dream would be rooted in some way to his actual identity and experiences now I read some explanations like this one from Locke VSP on Reddit that try to explain how the dream is a representation of Silvio's subconscious but these always strike me as reaching it's the same thing as people believing that Walt died in Breaking Bad in the final episode was just his dying fantasy or I guess more accurately it's like the Malcolm in the Middle Theory and then it was me and I had a shaved head and a goatee and I wore a black hat and the only thing that made sense in the whole dream is I still walked around my underwear now of course there's another reason why we can discount any evidence from The Sopranos The Sopranos was in no way setting up a sequel to come out five years later from a Norwegian Studio conspiracy theories now rather the idea is that Lilyhammer Builds on from the already existing Sopranos material and works it into their premise so instead let's take a look at Lilyhammer and see what evidence exists for this Theory well the main thing is the fact that the main character both looks like and acts like Silvio Dante they share many similar mannerisms and traits and Frankie is portrayed as a mostly honorable person just like Silvio but this is of course simply due to the fact that they're both played by Stephen Van Zandt little Steven was not an actor before The Sopranos David Chase decided to cast him simply because of his appearance and the fact that chase was a big fan of Bruce Springsteen Van Zant played in Springsteen's E Street Band he was originally considered for the role of Tony Soprano but he wanted it to go to a real actor so instead the role of Silvio was created specifically for him there's actually a line of dialogue in The Sopranos that I think is a reference to this back when Jackie was at the end he forwarded the idea of me stepping up to the big seat no Tony I mean so the fact that Steven does a similar performance in both roles can just be attributed to the fact that he isn't a classically trained actor also Lilyhammer really relies on The Sopranos Fame to draw in its audience so having Steven do a Silvio affect makes sense from a marketing perspective however the biggest hint of the show is a dream is this in the third season Frankie is shot he winds up in the hospital and while he's there another patient who is not Lucid delivers this line sure hope is a dream it's all the dreams Sylvia it's all a dream well that confirms it right it's just like when Tony heard Meadow's voice in history it's Silvio's subconscience or maybe his wife Gabriella telling him that he's dreaming but there's a problem with this see in the season 2 finale Frankie goes back to New York we then get this slide from his ex played by Maureen Van Zant who is his wife in real life and who also played Silvio's wife Gabriella the return of Frankie the fixer this is like a Sopranos episode yep the reference of The Sopranos is a show in this world so unless Silvio is also dreaming that his New Jersey life was made into a reality TV show or something then we have to accept The Sopranos references are just references the show is paying homage to its iconic predecessor while not trying to be a secret sequel or something like that now full disclosure I haven't actually seen all of Lilyhammer I compiled this evidence mostly from YouTube clips and read it so there may be other little hints or things in the show that I'm not aware of I feel like I've been stabbed in the heart I was planning on watching the show eventually once I finished the others I need to get through first but there's a problem Netflix is actually taking the show down from their platform as little Steven sadly tweeted out now you might be saying I thought this was a Netflix original why is Netflix taking down its own show well you see just because the show is billed as a Netflix original doesn't mean that Netflix actually made it the show is actually made by nkr1 which is Norway's largest broadcast company Netflix had exclusive North American distribution rights which is why they build it as their own show however probably due to contract reasons the show will be pulled from Netflix that's the reason why I made this video I'm sad that the show with even a peripheral connection to The Sopranos is being taken down and I'm also sad I didn't get to watch it in its entirety there just wasn't enough time Michael there just wasn't enough time it's also devastating to people like little Steven who poured their heart and soul into the show Steven served as an executive producer on the show and actually composed most of the soundtrack himself from his own Studio so even though this is another one of those classic Kino videos where I take 15 minutes to discuss what ultimately amounts to a simple no I wanted to draw some attention to this show let's say it then well [ __ ] Whitman will be no idea where it will land or if it will be made available to the public on some other platform but if you got some time try and give it a watch before it goes and remember our true enemy has yet to reveal himself you [ __ ] skip fooza where'd he get this video the video Museum obscrazing media Dazz Jake hit Sam cedarland Celery Man Jenna Marie Johnson Brad Smith Studios Uncle Mike Shane Boyce and Matt Joyce [Music] thank you [Music]

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Length: 13min 0sec (780 seconds)

Published: Thu Nov 03 2022