The Oprah Winfrey Show - Dolly - 1/2

all right just staying up one more time just stand up turn around let's see your meid behind oh no is that way what good God you know I came in the airport last night and I think my plane was a couple hours after you yeah I know they told me you were coming in well I got to the airport I'm gonna start talking like this broad shuttle but I got till the airport and they were still abuzz the mechanics relied to forget the planes you know who was here Dolly Parton they said you know what her car was waiting right out front she didn't have to walk across the lot they were all excited cuz a lot of people in the airport knew I was here to do your show and they're real proud of you in Chicago as they should be well you know I as I said in the introduction that you know for years when you do interviews people say well how would you most like to interview and I've always said you because I saw an interview did several years ago and you reminded me so much of myself you were just so down so big mouth had a lot of people say that you and me are a lot of like in fact I have a TV or a movie production company and one of the things I've been trying to get somebody to develop and I've been trying to come up with an idea or something for me and you to do in a movie together we don't get to visit a lot in real life we could be best friends in a movie what that's right but I do think that we're very similar in the fact that we're both very open and we we try to tell everything on ourselves before other people can tell I already said that yes what is exciting to us I said to the honeys for I said I have never seen anything like this figure never in my life have you ever seen anything anything like it and you were a full fifty pounds heavier not - yeah I've I've gained and lost weight for years and years you know I didn't really start to gain weight until I was about 29 28 29 years old and I just really always had a big appetite and I was I was always real energetic but I'm you know the kind of energy that I have is more of a spiritual energy more than just a static energy and it's not a physical energy and the way I got oh I hate exercise I mean I'm the laziest person in the world when it comes to physical things but I'm trying real hard to do it to learn to like it I don't know that I'll ever learn to but I'm trying to learn to do it at least someone try to get on some bodybuilding program why well just for muscle tone and contour because I've lost quite a bit of weight like you said it's taking me over a period of three years to get the weight off and I've done everything on earth I mean you like to done everything dieting is a hobby of mine yeah people ski I diet what'd you do this it's a hateful thing I hate guys so how did you do this how did you do well I did it I got the weight off started getting the weight off doing everything as we do I fasted and often you know do spiritual fast too just to get myself restored and all but I do it for physical and spiritual reasons but I fasted a lot did a lot of juice fast I did Scarsdale I did Adkins I didn't they could coach on the lam bay there's no way but I had because I hate that food I hate diet drinks you know I think it's wonderful they have all that stuff at I hate tasteless food cuz I love to cook I love to eat and I love greasy things I love salt and you know I love all the stuff so I just decided I heard you love potatoes too I do that's my weakness that's me girls I'm not sure they have a potato than a pie me too you know it's like I'm not a big sweet tea to thank that's all it saved me through the years you know not that I've been saved but I mean I would have been ten times as big so I like sweets too but usually I eat so much grub you know just grubby food that I don't usually have have room for sweets and then I didn't grow up eating sweets because there's 12 kids and our family and we were just poor people so we didn't have sugar and stuff like that so we just didn't ever develop a sweet tooth but anyway I just started I had to decide on a diet that was going to work well for me because I had done everything I was just wrecking my help and I just felt bad I hate that you're not did diet pills you know they make you so hateful you know this like I just hated it I can't I cannot take that because I'm [ __ ] enough you know I'm hyper yeah and I just thought well I have to do something that works for me so I just started eating after I got the weight down I lost about 25 30 pounds just doing everything then I started eating small meals a day like I eat about six six or seven just I don't count them but appraise six meals a day but just small amounts of anything I want that if I want sweets let me say bye eat sweets I like I'm out of crazy but I mean I eat everything but I just eat small amounts and I try to think about what I'm really hungry for way to do it there's a guy Bob Schwartz who has a book out called diets don't work and he says you know the way to finally lose the weight is to eat only when you're hungry and eat only until you're full but the problem is if you're used to eating you don't know when you're hungry and you don't know when you're full that's that's true that's true this is it takes a lot of this one because so you have to get the weight off first yes yeah well yeah but I did keep losing though that's I realized that I was just trying to maintain by trying to just train myself to eat less but then I realized that was magic because I would the small amounts that I ate I would burn that up real fast so I just kept losing and losing and I thought boy I have died and gone to heaven but it's really it's worked well for me so far I can't brag yet you know how we are I'm liable to be twice as big you know next week because I can literally gain weight I can honest-to-goodness people say it's not possible but I can gain 10 pounds in two or three days I've gained the most I've ever gone gained is 8 pounds in a weekend that's a good weekend to girl just comes comes back on you but I I get up every morning I can't but I I see myself you know I've been heavy so so many years now but I'll get up in the morning I think I dreamed that I was skinny and I look in the mirror to see if I'm still skinny and I'll get on the scale every morning still no not anymore you don't have to I you just put this dress on I'll be back more with dolly in a moment did you know she didn't get him I thought that redheaded woman like a wild cat she jerked my wig off and almost beat me to death with it she beat the tar out of me but I kept my husband I got that stubborn home and I beat the tar out of him when you see yourself on tape like that what do you think I think who is that little pig losing weight and that I stop another show and they showed a thing from when me and Kenny did our HBO special oh Lord I mean it's like and I was even less than that I then I had been before and I think lordy it's just like you just feel like such a home but then I am it's like I think I'm a pig whose time has come and I understand you love to cook two things like things like fried okra yeah you know how you know how slimming that is Oh cried okra in fat back to well I think you grow up I grew up on a farm and we raised all of our own food and my mother is the best cook in the world far is it tasting good course she'll cook green beans till there's not a nutrient left in it yeah but it tastes so good and I love the I love fried stuff I'm a fried chicken fried corn fried okra love potatoes with tons of butter I mean I'm just the worst but that's why I had to still continue eating what I love but just not so much do you cook yourself at home yeah I do cook I don't have I have a couple of people that come a couple of times a week to clean my house cuz I can't stand people living in my house I have maids and I can't stand them living no no I can't I really can't I can't stand people in my face when I don't want them in my face and it's like I don't like cuz I don't want a buddy see how funky I love it how tacky you know you get your old cumple clothes your shoes in your robe you know I don't want people going off and saying I was Dolly Parton's made you would not believe you know you see it later on in the press but anyway I do cook I love to cook and I often have my friends over and my family when they're in town my sister Rachel lives in Los Angeles now and I live part time Nashville part time Los Angeles and she does the 9:00 to 5:00 show that's on cable and so should we get together then she's a great cook and the two of us just cook up a storm and have all these people come over to eat this southern food that they can't get out there and boss and I know it's hard to find it at the bel-air hotel what is interesting it to us is that you are so as I was saying before that you're so down-home how do you think you have managed in spite of all the you know the get up and the get out stuff here to keep your feet on the ground well my feet ain't been on the ground welcome all in my shoes you'll never walk again the big part of it is I grew up and like I said in a big family way up in the mountains when you say reach for and see you know like when people get up and they get successful it's very end to say we're very polar when I was coming up yeah well we were poor as far as not having any money but we I never felt that we were poor cuz we had so much love and in our family and we had a lot of hard times and my family's nuts like everybody's family's nuts but we were we were you know very close mom and daddy always managed to keep us together and keep it all together and my mother was very religious too so I think that I had a good start with my folks with my family and I just never once thought I wanted to be anything different than what I was as far as a person what I put on as far as I guess you could say I'm you know my image doesn't like the girl next door if you happen to live next door to an amusement park but I just always you know felt like so much more inside my personality was so forward and not going if you were going to you were going to be somebody yeah I always felt like I was somebody and I just I just thought that I was gonna be a star for as long as I remember even before I even knew what to really link that to I do most of the people who grew up where you grew up just lived there and stayed there and want to get some water at the well every now and then went to town is that around spit on the corner yeah well I did I'm the basic people but you know I'm not the only person ever dreamed in that part of the country but I was I just dreamed real big and I just did something about it's not got out early but I didn't get out to get away from them I just wanted to see other things I just knew there was a world beyond the Smoky Mountains that I hadn't seen and I I just was such a curious person I wanted to be part of it I wanted to be loved I wanted to to see people I wanted people to see me I wanted to be part of whatever was big out there you know in the world I think one of the biggest problems we have as women people as we grow up and have this whole one of the things that keeps a lot of women back is feeling like they have to be liked by everybody and wanting everybody to think that they're nice was that ever a problem for you well I like to be liked and it's important to me that people like me and I do my best to you know to let people know that I care for them but I never let anybody hold me back you like if somebody told me I couldn't do something I would have done it you know if they'd the hair lay up to devil then you know it's like I was like it would give me strength to do it just for somebody to tell me I can't cuz I said God says I can you know it's like through God I can do everything back an album I assured took you all eight years it was eight years in the making Emmy Lou and Linda and you we came friends about I guess 12 13 years ago and the first time we were ever together we were in Emily's living room and we just started singing some of their old gospel songs and country songs and we thought boy this sounds good you know cuz usually it was the kind of harmony the only family usually can get you know in family if you're saying there's just a certain blend and we thought we'd sound like sisters and then we should record it and we tried to do it as almost ten years ago and it just didn't come together then because there was so much there was so much pressure on us the labels was telling us to do this our manager said do this do some rock and roll do some contra do some this is there all that pressure when you try to do an album because you're trying to please so many everybody yeah and we just decided we were what we had in mind was too good to be wasted on so much frustration so we just put it on a shelf and we held it and every time we get together through the years we'd say we've got to do this album so this past year Linda called me and even said well let's make the time to do it and we said yeah let's do and we did and it's just it's just doing great of course it is I told you I listened to it night was in the country well you know I remember you live I don't know if these folks know it or not but used to live in Nashville and I used to watch you on television about ten years ago you were on channel for ten years and 50 pounds ago well but you look good though you don't need to be skinny you've got all you've got everything you see this today this is it yeah you kind of stay with me and I'll show you how to eat little bit of portions but everybody Fryderyk really had a very fat back once the week we lose totally pig out we'll cook everything you need to see you're such an inspiration not only to to me who is an enormous fan and it's difficult to interview somebody there big fan of because you spend the whole time going god I can't believe it like that's what my little heart saying god I can't believe it I'm a big fan of yours - my sister Cassie who watches your show I mean she wouldn't miss it she wanted so bad to come with me today cause she knew I was gonna be on the show but you have so many fans that it's it's you've got every one of us week so do you you know people see if there's a light in you and I think that that's why we're all born so that people can see the light of God inside of us and yours you just glow it's not just your hair either and how do and where do you think that comes from it comes from your spirit obviously well I think like I said my growing up very religious I've always loved God and the thoughts of God and that goodness and people I've always tried to see the good in everybody because I always thought that everybody was good even the most horrendous people and prisoners and people that commit all these horrible crimes y'all you often think if maybe they'd have had some direction but some help and she might have love and care and see that you know that God in them that it might have been totally different because I don't believe anybody's born mean right and so I just I love people I try to let my love show and I just and I think that's what shines through through many people I'm just hope hope that is shining in me because that's what I know is that what you try to do in your music - I try very hard to let whatever you know God has given me whatever gifts you know to develop them and try to to share that with people the best part about being who you are is work just being who our I enjoy it because I'm just I feel so lucky that I've had the opportunity to make a good living at what I love to do I always wanted to sing I always wanted to be a star I always wanted to be out with the people and I'm getting to do that and I'm getting to enjoy doing that and it's like yeah I think we're all born we wonder who we are while we're doing here it's the same old thing all through so to me I just try to I'm not don't you think - obviously you think this you've just just intimated that you do that your thoughts are your life and that one of the reasons why you are where you are I am where I am those of you are where you are is because you believed you could be here it's faith that think you have to work very hard you have to have a certain my look to you know like there's I used to not realize how lucky I had been I was always grateful and humble I always you know but I always have worked very hard to but I see so many people that have twice a talent that I have that maybe came to Nashville at the same time I did they write better songs they sing better but there's just something that where the timing is not right so I think there's a certain element of luck in that but I think that people can do a lot with what they've got if they just had the faith I mean so much of it is faith and belief I think one has to be careful not to get arrogant with that because I think you know if you if you don't humble yourself God will do it for you bring it I think we've all go through that at times but I think one has to be very careful and to pray and and to try to keep yourself humble and to be a servant to the people more abdali in a moment they say that's looking at that one out meaning that yellow dress is like you think I'll kind I look like a fat canary okay that's the way I was and that's the way I'm liable to be you know saying I think you must have lots of different sizes in your closet she said yeah don't you yes I got it sectioned up it's like you can't keep from it I never know from one day to the next what size I'm going to be here mid wins on how they don't want to go to the next size you get elastic yeah and then you go into maternity clothes I was so bad at one time serious when I got my heaviest I couldn't stand you know like the those bands because you couldn't I have a small waist you know even when I was heavier that's the only thing that saved me but I even got for a few times where I'd you know get different tops but that I have like those maternity just because they stretch yeah just so you can know but I swear to you I did but I imagine most people is did you have the cut was your husband Carl was he on you to lose weight or didn't care he well he only cares for my sake he he didn't love me any less or anymore he thinks I look real good now but he he never you never really talked about it that much he didn't care he's one of those kind of people he just loves me for what I am and that's great I read someplace recently where you said you don't always have to have you know passion and and and making mad passionate love it's it's far more important to be real great friends is that where you are and the relationship that we have our relationship really goes all around but I think the fact that we are great friends is what you know has say the people have often asked me who I would get along so good I said it's because Carl lets me do whatever I think is right and I let him do whatever I think is right so he has he never been it takes a very special kind of man to not be threatened by all that you are not be intimidated or feel less of a man because you know he's been great in that way we met the very first day I got to Nashville before I became a star and he knew why I was there he didn't even laundromat yeah we met it a little laundromat called the wishy washy and I said it's been late she washed you everything but I was doing my laundry it was very first day I got there his first time I'd ever been in a laundromat and I was trying to figure out how it worked I brought dirty clothes from home I was in such a hurry to leave I graduated on a Friday night left for Nashville on the Saturday morning what stars in your eyes what stars in my eyes yeah and so I met him there so we he kind of grew into this with me but he's more like I can't explain what we're he's like my brother he's like my father he liked to protect me he's never been jealous of me fact I've never known you know it's like I've often wondered about him you know but he's really not I think he just sees me so plain inside that he knows that that we're there together forever and I've never been jealous am really have there been times though when perhaps if he had reason to be jealous when your eye you know wandered to someone else's because for goodness gracious and years of marriage there's certainly somebody you see and you say hmm not really no and not with Carl I've been more jealous over other people than I ever have been car-like people you work with or whatever like you get more possessive but there's just been something I've often felt like it was God's will for me to to meet Carl if there is such a thing as you're supposed to do something in life it's like at least he helped me along with you know whatever that was and I helped him - it's like we're he's very independent first of all he's very secure with who he is so do you all live in different parts of the country know that are you saying different parts of the house that matter now no we actually we live both places we have a home in Nashville that's my heart home and that he was born raised there so he stays most of the time there but we have a house in LA - so he comes out there when he wants to he comes out in shops and hangs out but he don't like the big city and so I go back and forth it's about half and half we don't have children so it works out good we can do whatever we please and he's not tied down to a job he works for himself so actually we're pretty free we're together more than the press makes it sound like did you ever want little munchkins yeah yeah we used to want children but I can't have children because I've had a lot of problems with female trouble and I've had some surgery too and I know but they don't mean I can't adopt later on we talked about it you think you will I might finn's she might now we'll be right back with questions from our audience we were noticing Dolly's ring during the break here Jimmy thing getting shot of it can you see that up close yeah this is it's butterflies butterflies are my thing my sister still I have office Liza Cabrera she helped me design this it's just cute because it's on little bearings and yeah there's a big diamond in the center and then the whole butterflies diamonds and then there's another diamond butterfly underneath it and so when you're playing the guitar there yeah it spins around if you get holding your your microphone you know it's like depends on then how nervous you are they really go sometime you don't get nervous so do you know not nervous I get excited you know and I'm like a racehorse just before I go onstage uh standing backstage and pace you know just but when I soon as I hit the stage I'm fine you never have you ever had a bad audience oh of course you often do I don't it's been a long time since I've had a bad audience but in your early days especially when I started on the Porter Wagoner show and I first had my big break and country music and I replaced a girl that had been on for years and she was real popular and when I first started going out on the road people in the audience would holler where's Norma Jean I thought all you just wait you just yeah where's Norma Jean now you know we were talking earlier about dieting but you know you joke about it and talking about being looking like a pig and being a fat canary and stuff but it's very serious when it's something you really want and I've read that you had even thought suicide I thought not well I didn't think suicide just because I was fat that it helped matters in that particular time when I was going through and the press made that out to be much worse than what that wants you to of the press yeah you did but anyway there was a very hard time in my life a few years back what is that hammering on your paps well you say they they're building a new studio downstairs for The Oprah Winfrey Show and sometimes they just get carried away with themselves start hammering upstairs they heard you were up here yeah when you start talking suicide I thought he said some kind of song anyway at that particular time this was about I guess three or four years about four years ago I was having some a lot of serious female problems I had some surgery and there was some other things going on in my life at the time that were very emotional to me and I just and I was overweight too and it was just a bad time and everybody always thinks you're you know just a ray of sunshine you know people like you and me it's always got a big mouth you're always smiling people like us can hurt worse than anybody I just I don't want to interrupt you but I am sitting in an airport once just sitting I was tired and I've been washing and I was speaking and I just wanted to get home it was nine o'clock and the plane was two hours late and that guy comes along and he says so you're not yourself I say well yeah I'm just you know I just want to just get on the plane he goes well don't you want to ask me how I'm doing I really don't I really do you know and so people always expect you to be on yeah and then it's it's very hard I know when I did go through that period of time and I talked about it a lot you know but because I was very ill at that time and I was out of work for 18 months because there was some physical problems and stuff and it was very depressing time and when you're very sensitive people you can you know I mean everybody sensed it but you know like people like us that's where your whole life is just out there in the public you're not allowed to be sick my family had always just thought of me as just being the pillar of strength being there for everybody always up and when I was so sick my mom and daddy my my own brothers and sisters they like that died because it scared him to death to think that I could really you know fall it that far down but it's like it's really unfair for people to to think that you're not allowed but I can understand how that is but thank the Lord through much prayer and just pulling myself together I just really that's the music yeah that that means we're on it come right back okay Thank You Jamie for you're a beautiful person I'm having a wonderful time being here yes do you always wear a wig and if you do is your hair justice bond well I keep my hair blonde I have a wig um now I don't always I usually wear wigs when I'm doing shows and things but I keep my own hair about shoulder length my hair straight and it don't keep curl as long and it just it's real hard is all of this a wig dolly oh this looks like it isn't no it is trust me it's a wig and I tell you how I know is because today in Chicago it is so windy and my boys like the lady was trying to shake my hand out so don't ask me to put this back around with the staple gun but yeah I do have real hair a lot of people think I look like Kojak under this but I don't yeah well you have about a hundred wigs or more you know I don't even know I always said where I went about every day so I most have 365 I'll change them around and different ones for different styles and so that's great yes yes yes sir dolly I know you love your husband and I love my wife but I just wondered if you'd be interested in having the chocolate soda would be sometime thank you that's cute no she can't know there's a rhythm that you make by clasping your fingernails together and I wonder where did you learn it yeah well it comes from acrylic nails first of all I don't think your real nails do that these are like those acrylic

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Published: Sun Aug 10 2014