The Open Classic 3rd Place - JorDan vs TaToH

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so these try hard not giving the casters any break all right right we're in the game it's arabia as the first match um it's the best of three this time let me fix this quickly best of three third place match and let's catch up till we're live jordan playing in the blue as the mayans we have taro playing in the red as the aztecs so both them going for a mezzo civilization and out of the first one moving out with his eagle maybe looking to lame some who knows who knows but it looks like jordan has found all his resources so blaming not really gonna be an option here i think the difference is roughly seven hundred dollars from third place to fourth place so it's still a significant amount of monitor playing for here so both players will surely give it their best and this third place match is pretty much a way for us to give a little bit of a break to leary now before the grand final uh where he's gonna face yo in the best of seven seven and fifty dollars difference okay gotcha [Music] uh we're going to be joined again by ornello in the third place match and then for the grand final team 90 will be joining us to cast the grand final steady opening for both players so far just bringing in their boars as you would expect and yeah are you supporting viper i'm not i'm happy for i just want good games at this point whoever wins i'm all fine with that doesn't really matter to me because they're both gl so right now we're just hoping for good games where both players show a good level hopefully so surgery not that simple surgery when surgery involves more risk than potential reward hey viper i don't think case you didn't know you were muted i know i muted i tried to talk to you but you didn't answer so i muted myself again oh okay i'm sorry i was afk yeah so in case you didn't know warner you were afk you probably knew uh i actually forgot okay yeah but these triads not giving us any break they just go i know they have to not think about the casters man who do they think they are but we have tattoo in the red playing as the aztecs jordan and the blue playing as the mayans and i'm not sure if you saw the draft and the map picks and everything uh i briefly glanced at it but let me open it again light out and gold rush are the home maps okay so i'm gonna have another hideout game and i saw burgundians was in there so i think we might see the thing the button the button well as uh you know the teammate of both of these players who do you think is going to stylistically match up better against the other i think battle is probably favored here but then again jordan is i mean jordan is back it's there's no question anymore jordan yeah certainly so um if jordan would win i wouldn't be surprised either but i think i would hold taro as a slight favorite yeah as a you know objective outsider i would as well but uh we'll see i mean it's just a best of three so anything can happen yeah exactly it does whoever wins the arabic game pretty much just needs one more game right so it's it is this this game is super important in such a bit in the best of three yeah a rape again off because you will always have your home map no matter what so if you win the neutral map you're in a fantastic spot exactly and we will actually have a little bit of a different opening as we have the quick feudal age coming in here from jordan who's going to be the blue mayans to the southeast and aztecs red tattoo yeah jordan is about to lose a villager here if teto micros this correctly and jordan should lose a villager jordan is spam clicking that villager to try and get the movement priority but taro i think is doing enough to get the kill and indeed he does take some arrows to the face though but he gets the version kills so good start for taro here and jordan going for the mid-arms opening which might end up being suddenly a reactive opening where he's gonna have to chase them and arms to tattle taro might try to run through the town center though that could backfire okay change his mind oh that's uh pretty unfortunate of an opening there for jordan and if you're opening with the minute arms the last thing you want to do is just chase your opponent and maybe we're going to see jordan try to sneak into tattoo space before he's completely walled and he might be able to do that the issue for jordan right now is that he didn't even have the 10 gold extra goal to make the third militia so jordan is currently sending forward to militia with his eagle where the odds are that he's not even going to do my arms and uh oh and ted also keeps the wall open on the wood line of jordan so the militia might get in here jordan in a really rough start here not another villager quite low tatum might try to target it down but it's close enough to at least that jordan should be able to save that one at the same time jordan keeping the walls open so his two militia will come in but again it's just two militia yeah however tattoo pulling all the villagers well both players with a pretty inefficient economy right now jordan looks like jordan trying to take the fight with the villagers against the militia and it might be able to escape oh the one hp eagle oh jordan what if the villager should have just punched down the eagle warrior so that exactly there wasn't a blocking possibility yeah for sure now taro is coming up with villages he wants to attack jordansville jordan's like it's a low hp eagle and two militia it's not scary for that where he's only five villagers he wants to just finish the wall off here and take out the units as possible as fast as possible as well if he allows them uh yeah jordan's start has been really rough and he's even open the village no okay it's blocked by a tree never mind but yeah jordan's opening has been really rough i lost two villagers to the drush and honestly not really gained too much value with his own rush so taro in a fantastic spot and looks like that just wants to go straight rush fast castle as well in those village times it's a little bit slow definitely a bit on the slow side 30 villagers is usually a bit too late usually probably if you're going fast castle like 27 28 something in that ballpark but he will finish the wall at least on the right side villagers i think should be able to make it back home and even being able to mill the deer at the back of jordan's bay or sorry tattoo's base is very lucky for him as it will just help ensure that he has enough food to click castle age but even then that actually seems a little low and the eagle gets oh and yeah jordan doesn't have an archer forward now but there's no fletching so taro can even take some trades with the villagers and just run out of there and not sure about going back in with that woman but he does it so taro is brave i mean there's no flashing archers they're not scary so great moving in by taro of course it's some idle time but getting rid of those annoying militias always help uh useful and uh yeah taro look at his wood count yeah he's ready to drop buildings and go to the castle hopefully do you think he'll be market blacksmith should be a range blacksmith i don't see him anywhere close to taking stone so yeah oh market blacksmith and range probably seems to be the likely option well it is we were both half right it was a market in an archery range um so i think taro here he should probably do eco upgrades because his food income isn't high enough to the point where he can justify going through for like the past castle in quotes unless he's planning to use the market for that but uh yeah right now he's gonna struggle to get eight on the food in time yeah that's why i was thinking that the uh the market would be the building of choice here for tattoo going to be uh selling a hundred stone well that's one way to do it and second range coming in here for tattoos so he wants to focus entirely on the crossbowman or at least primarily makes a lot of sense so that's poor militia of jordan he's in jail playing crossbow war against aztecs is something happy to do with mines you don't really want to run into like an equal castle time where the ass declares going full eagles but going uh crossbow war or archer war is definitely something you like in jordan not too far away from clicking up himself he's doing a market as well now going for massive walls oh that's going to be massive uh that's actually a lot of wood invested as well just to get those walls up and a lot of idle time as well but yeah jordan's castle election won't be too far away but it's not impossible that we enter a similar scenario as we had with leary where just a little timing there the timing window of a minute and a half is enough to just completely punish jordan yeah definitely although kanto doesn't have that many archers he's going to have like what's 7-ish and he's not already like going to the other side of the map you have the second archery range now coming in here from jordan and we're looking at oh it's like a minute and a half ish castle age difference for jordan's sake i really hope he sees that he's not completely walled though yeah the bottom side i'm sure he will check it because it is quite obvious but uh yeah jordan going for a second range so jordan will commit on the archer replay as well he's not planning to switch to eagles this time as he did against leary and he's doing both uh double bit x and gold mining as well now does not have horse color either thought it was done both of those so jordan really should get that horse color upgrade to make sure his economy doesn't suffer too far in the long term does have horse collar yeah i said that oh i thought you said oh jordan does jordan maybe i said the wrong name but yeah if i did yeah okay and yeah jordan all good jordan's still getting horse collar so everybody's gonna have horse collar yeah and jordan also plug in the gap on the bottom side so there's no reason no chance for tara to get in there i still open on the right side though and tattoos archers are going that direction jordan should have vision of them though from the houses very soon so he will be in time they're dropping out oh he's just now dropping the blacksmith oh if that gets denied as well jordan will have no upgrades on his archers that's a disaster for jordan he's gonna have to drop a new blacksmith for sure yeah all the buildings are up there blacksmith seems to be a very strange one unless you wanted to build another one which seems a bit odd but in that case why not just drop a market since i would cover everything and right now we have this palisade wall which is very low in hp and this is really rough here for jordan just about to hit castle age but still as you're saying no blacksmith up means that he's going to be so far behind in those upgrades and the extra range of tattoos can be really hard to deal with now taro only has fleshing himself to be fair so it's not it's not like it has a massive tech advantage jordan actually in 15 seconds will have the same range as taro so jordan should be fine there in the end but of course it was annoying some idle time and everything and taro is not committing either so that is just going out of there adding town center behind this and starting to develop his own base and will enter a fairly similar mid game where taro probably just has a slight slight lead yep the militia is about to break out big moment right there oh yeah i thought i'm not even doing both canary here it is protesting economy and even the thirties here you might even do a siege workshop he's still producing crossbows however and he needs to get some farms up italia's food eco is looking horrible he has four farmers and adding a third town center that's not sustainable my man well he's gonna be adding in some more farms right now and you know aztec farmers are pretty good but right now jordan's going to be pressuring he has the better upgrades with bodkin even gets a nice little snipe right there and it's going to be kind of tricky for tattoo to both have everything he needs to defend as well as actually leverage the fact that he has those town centers faster than jordan yeah but indeed right now jordan not really being too aggressive yeah jordan i mean he should know that by now that tata doesn't have balkan arrow and jordan dropping two tcs himself the jordan's economy is still better set up for booming and everything but taro obviously now getting those farm numbers up and jordan on the woodland didn't get a single leisure pick off yet and there's the first one one villager down and uh jordan paying back a little bit here wheelchair difference though starting to get a little bit in favor of taro yep siege workshop now coming in for our red player as well uh could just be for some scorpions or it could be for a manganelle i don't really see jordan trying to commit to a bunch of damage onto tattoo without any sort of forward siege workshop or units behind it not even having ballistics so probably once whatever siege unit it will be a scorpion once that guy comes out probably just gonna see jordan back up yeah but again tara has to reposition for farmers and that takes a big hit on his uh food economy again and he's not really able to sustain the tc production he's only producing from one tc right now he has queued up three wheels in the same tc what is this multi cue taro i've been trying to make him use multi cue for pcs for a long time already looks like he still hasn't adapted it yeah that's that's something i do too you know i still like you know jump from tc to tc to train villagers instead of having them all in one hotkey that'll be a bit annoying on the bottom side as well with the three crossbows but jordan has the answers for that he also dealt with the pressure on the right side nicely looks like he cleaned up all those crossbows and yeah jordan with the decent military leader at the moment village accounts almost the same as well so we're entering a really really close mid game yep uh villager will be there in time to repair scorpion actually we'll end up losing a said villager nice place from jordan there on the first shot there yeah that was that was pretty but now he's kind of lining them up so he has to be careful he wants to snipe the villager is repairing that's his target here but taro obviously knows that and he's jumping and protecting those villagers nice as well otto still doesn't have bulk narrow so he cannot really use his crossbows as well to help defend yeah that just does make everything so much more awkward you're kind of just relying on your scorpions at that point and the crossbowmen are just there to maybe mop things up and i guess jordan realizing that okay tattoo he's trying to play this very economic focused game so let's just build a forward siege workshop and really put the pressure on him that is absolutely good yeah 100 the right move to do in this situation he has 26 crossbows to nine and a mangonel as well will counter the scorpions of the tattoos so i really like this move from jordan and it's not like jordan is one tc behind us he's also three tc's only a few villagers behind and aztec's economy look at jordan's distribution as well he has nine villages collecting stone right now so i predict the ford castle being followed up on this pressure as well manganese can come in it's going to be good both versus the scorpions and the crossbowmen but turns out well your cross bone are already killing the scorpions as there weren't really any villagers there or that many crossbows here from tattoo and here is tattoos reaction third range coming in elite skirmisher upgrade as well but those aren't going to be very helpful against the manganese i mean they can kill them but it's going to take a while and this is a little bit tricky here because as you've been saying jordan's own eco is very strong behind this yeah indeed there's no ballistics for either player though and jordan doesn't have double uh ball saw yet so that's a bit of a pickle but tada now getting bulking out getting the armor upgrade he's preparing for those skirms to be the county unit but he will have to add mango nails of his own and he's doing exactly that but still his one of his town centers will be under pressure and that's always disruptive to your economy you know ted has a very healthy farm set about this point uh so it's still a super super neck in that game oh yeah uh tattoo with around like five to seven niche more farms and he's aztecs and he has wheelbarrow ahead of his opponent and he's even gonna have ballistics and that's a one for zero manganelle trade i believe great start to the defense for taro for sure and having the skirmisher play as well if those manganos disappear suddenly skirmishers are the dominant unit on the field so i like that swish from tattle the only issue would be if jordan's somehow maybe if taro ends up with like 30 of skerms upon hitting imperialist and jordan has made an eagle transition that could easily be but look at jordan's doubt castle taro is coming in just as jordan's building castle and taro has ballistics as well so this should be all dead units the crossbows the villagers they should all die and that's a really unfortunate situation for jordan they're also training one-to-one relic uh mangonels on the top side as well great start yeah kind of unfortunate jordan losing track of his opponent's army just at a very critical moment right there oh even the monk gonna bite the dust and tattoo even has plus two defense versus no armor upgrades and that in these big crossbow shootouts is pretty darn important yeah and the mangonels are out of the equation and taro has the hill taro might even just commit to deny this castle forever at this point he will always know if there's a magnet from jordan moving across the map he has to counter units and he has the hill there jordan even forces doing a second sea workshop at home to make sure he can get that castle up i was expecting this castle to be a forward castle after applying the pressure but taro just fended off and jordan was forced to do a defensive castle yeah just it seems like at the moment when jordan was really trying to you know pile on the aggression kato had enough of an eco advantage at that point that he was able to you know amass enough of the defense to sort of push jordan back and then loop around with some units and then jordan's forced to fall even further back and now looks like tattoo's going to be using the power of aztec farms to get to imperial age faster indeed oh yeah jordan is the mayan player as well yeah so the eagle switches were not as likely to happen and mangano has to be repaired or tata with great splits so far he should probably get rid of the villager so he can really take down that manual yeah there we go the village should be down and magna will follow soon tattooed with great splits there and yes the common units fantastic micro and great trade for tattoo as that was also on the way to the imperial age yeah this is looking really good here for our red player manganelles trying to catch up to the ranged units of tattoo but oh man this castle it's going to go up but they're going to be several dead villagers uh to pay for it indeed high price to pay and almost a big magnum shutdown but yeah it's just going to take whatever kills he gets and you're not even mike when the crossbar is on the right yeah anymore not great i guess he has already terms have plus two armor gonna only be taking one damage per hit from the crossbowman yeah jordan still doesn't have ballistics either and i guess he is thinking i'm switching to skirms anyway i'll probably make bloom dodgers those crossbows don't matter anymore but still i don't really want to gift him away just because of that then yeah jordan is still miles away from the imperial age i would not be surprised to see a gigi from game legion jordan here on television in privilege because eagle switch is already in place yep it's the classic uh hey aztecs get up to imperial age faster and they're gonna make a bunch of eagle warriors and kill you as there really just isn't gonna be a whole lot plumed archers in mass can actually deal with eagle warriors fairly well due to their bonus damage but there's no way that jordan's really gonna have enough of them and the tech disadvantage is also just gonna be a huge issue and this is yeah looking like gonna be a solid game number one win for tattoo indeed and i just checked the time and i'm thinking that i initially suggested a best of five uh third place match and best of seven semifinals yep and uh we said no not uh that's too much for one day and i'm very very happy and thankful that you guys said that because yeah i think the the timeline is working out pretty well for the tournament i think so as well i think it's like of course it is it's not the typical where you can see every match because nothing is played at the same time but even though everything's better than i think we've seen so many good games and yeah just playing these classic maps as well um it shows i think you tweeted almost exactly i tweeted earlier yeah you tweeted pretty much exactly what i'm about to say now which is there's a reason why these maps are considered the classic maps and it shows taro coming in with eight eagles just as jordan is building his third castle and if jordan already didn't feel bad enough about his position something like this is the ultimate tilter and oh yeah yeah another cast a castle coming up from taro as well trebuchets will be on the field and jordan still has some fight in him though and trying to get to probably healthy plumed numbers but he's not training any plumed archers okay now he wasn't for a while yeah still no ballistics for jordan by the way that has been lacking for way too long considering how many range units he has had and tyler can easily pick off the manganese as well just sending one eagle and clean that up and gordon force into another defensive castle no map control for jordan and taro is about to start trapping down jordan losing scorpions to the castle as the trap is coming forward for taro yeah i mean even if units aren't necessarily going to be all that helpful in the long run i mean we've been shown time and time again and even just having a few leftover units from early game that you don't necessarily have a use for can be really helpful for just like going around and maybe sniping some villagers or something later on so you never just want to like gift your opponent units even if you don't plan on using them in the long run also the should jordan make the insane hold here for the next couple of minutes the issue i see as well is that taro has access to what is known as atlatl skirms which also kind of just gives him another really good counter to the plumed archer transition that jordan is doing and if tattoo does as if he doesn't has have a massive lead already having a little squirms in the back of his hand as well it's just another a nail in the coffin you can say yep i mean it was nice that jordan was able to snag three relics and the fourth one is also fairly close to him but it's just a little too far gone for all of this three is the magic number of trebuchets and you can't really ever repair against that at least not for very long and the uh the numbers and upgrades for tattoo are only going to be increasing the fact that jordan is playing on is honestly surprising to me jordan is if anything i think jordan resigns early sometimes when he feels like he cannot win a game he resigns yeah and i'm very surprised that he's still playing honor he's over two 2 000 score behind castle is about to go down he sees the skirmishers are being upgraded for tattoo and he just has 25 blooms to show for that's and a very specific elite with exact grades yeah okay okay there we go jordan does us the favor and calls the game super over very well played by taro i felt like jordan had a good situation going for him when he started with that forward seat pressure but then everything kind of fell apart tattered with the counter attack got the one four manual trade and from that point forward taro never let the initiative go and jordan just obviously jordan had a really rough start with that rush coming in and doing so much damage two villagers yeah pretty pretty painful but yeah and it seems like you know meso wars are always going to be on a razor's edge in terms of momentum and just tatto barely getting enough economy to just simultaneously push jordan out of his base and also go for a counter-attack and that was just you know no coming back after that yeah very well played by taro indeed and we'll be moving on to game two which should be gold rush not mistaken um yes malay yeah burgundians should be no wait wait okay wait i actually think there's a you can make justifications for all three sieves of each player yeah i think taro chinese or berbers makes sense for gold rush i think turks is probably for hideout jordan probably wants to save burgundians for hideout and then either vikings or malay then for gold rush he could also do burgundians for gold rush and then like malay on hideout not impossible uh gold rush is fairly easy to wall he can't get that into a booming game and then hit the button you know so i've seen it several times players go for burgundians on uh gold rush indeed wouldn't be surprised to see it but i requested a break between the final and the third place match because i think we could use that a small five ten minute break or us casters sounds good this is a tournament for the players but let's not forget us casters never man or you know in your case the players and casters i'm a caster but we are in game are we yep where i don't see it um see if i can uh i copy like the game id or something i don't know i got it i got it okay good okay well because rogina is posting the game id all the time right yeah so i have that well here we are game number two in this best of three third place match again in case you guys are wondering why we're having third place match essentially this is just a mini show match sort of thing gives leary uh because he played in the second semi-final a little bit of a break before having to play mr yo in the grand finals as that is going to be a best of seven that will be starting a little bit after this series concludes but uh jordan can be the blooper gundians to the west map and in the east uh in the red rather as the turks will be tattoo all the alliteration hello putting four vessel wood right away kind of indicator that he's thinking about uh not fast futile age at least jordan going for double barracks as we are to expect at this point and yeah so we do see burgundians um again what's so interesting with burgundy is that you never know exactly how the person will play burgundy's you can go scouts you can even play archers crossbow you can go fast castle costillier you can go boom you can go fast and pick there's so many options with burgundy you never know and all everything you know is that he's gonna have an amazing economy doing whatever he's doing so it's a bit of pressure playing against the burgundians and taro going for the turks i would honestly not be surprised to see a janissary approach because he has a fairly good map for it as well and you could even go cow watchers but then watching tattoo against uh yo earlier he just went straight to the castle age triple tc boom and felt very comfortable bringing it to the late game yeah definitely and if i recall correctly tata won that one yes what a very nice paladin cleanup oh yeah yeah that was really nice um well executed agreed with the two-tones indeed the two tawns also it's toddars and not tatars tatars yeah it's tatars oh my god i'm gonna go pick some tatars against the two-tones and see how it goes exactly well uh we already have double backs in here for jordan it's kind of uh i like this matchup for turks because you can reasonably go both cav archers and janissaries and you know you are always a little unsure when you're going up against pergunians but i feel like that the flip side of that is also true and that jordan probably not going to be too sure as to what tattoo is doing indeed and we also have both pages walling up right now so yeah very liked it was going to see very passive approach from both players and tatters like cars not that they're in the game but either way uh taro could even just go like stable light cab and play this arena style as turks as well that's a completely viable option as well jordan going for a second lumber camp and yeah i don't expect much accident action until the castle age yep gold rush these days is just very much about the walling up getting to castle age and then using the the toys you get with castle age to be able to actually take map control or pressure your opponent it's just kind of hard to do that in feudal age because you're so close to the edge of the map which sort of inherently makes it easier to wall yeah well this version of gold rush anyway is uh normally there is not the second layer like the surrounding hill in the center the original gold rush just had one center hill kind of area where all the gold was spread around so this gold rush is fair more fair and gives more combat potential in case you don't have the middle but it also makes the distance quite far and generally leads to more passive games so not sure if this is the best gold rush version but it is certainly more fair than your typical gold rush i guess it it depends on what you're going for yeah i mean it can be the best and in certain aspects and not as good in certain others jordan again with the doubter dealer oh summoning the lord as always you we can never truly escape it a few legs come in from both roughly the same time jordan of course has double bitx and horse color in before any farm was placed and he's about to finish his wall but taro scout is coming around let's see if jordan oh jordan goes up without lume as well very very greedy but the scout of tattoo is there nicely saved jordan though nice quick hands indeed taro also going without loom here so both players kind of greedy you'd mind these guys have trained a little bit before the tournament as well together so they have a general generally a good idea of how the other guy wants to play that's the issue with playing and training together when you actually play there's a lot of mind games involved yeah and of course you know as someone who is only a caster it's always kind of a mystery when you see two teammates or people that you know train together whenever they play each other because there's so many layers of mind games that you just have no idea and it just makes everything look really weird so jordan going for a barracks that would eco definitely food equally looks better now than the arena game but with economy it's going to struggle to get that barracks up fast enough at the stable sorry tyler going for stable himself so feels like we're watching an arena game right now where they just had to wall their own base themselves oh yeah every map can be arena if you believe hard enough true wiper looks tired i am feeling it no question about it so it's just gonna be the scout opening both sieves are going to be quite good at doing this you have the cheap light have upgrade for burgundy and so it's not like they uh they can't compete with turks extra pierce armor doesn't really matter in scout wars and it's going to be a little bit different because on arena you just go for relics and then you kind of just fall back to your own base or go for you know heavy siege pressure or something whereas here it's much more map control focus so i think we're a lot less likely to see okay scout center just sitting back on a bunch of tcs without really trying to take control of the middle yeah for sure there's also the whole point of when do you transition to the middle and to get like a tc up there things like that is it going to be the 30s is it a fourth dc and so a lot of small factors here to take into account uh taro adding one scout so far jordan has not added a single scout putting one for heavy plow and uh bosa and yeah gonna see obviously taro gets the light cover upgrade for free jordan will have to invest into it but he does get a discount by being burgundians and yeah it's not really i think both players will just drop theses focus on economy and then we're just gonna have to wait and see how they transition out of it yep so if you were in jordan's position what sort of burgundian approach would you go for because as you're saying there's a ton of different ways you can go about it do you think it's just going to be uh you know dare i say burgundian's going for cavaliers it could just be a safe stable and not used for anything either so i would also not rule out if the jordan just goes full full boom here he's doing a loom now though [Music] what if the first upgrade is cavalier there's one tc tattoo dropping two pieces immediately but it doesn't have the gold for cow there obviously so that is 150 food 150 gold even with uh burgundians and tattoo same idea notably he is dropping a town center on the stone i mean it's just a good tc spot in general but that could perhaps indicate he wants to be dropping a castle in the middle of the map makes a lot of sense but right now i feel like jordan is building up towards pushing the button and taking middle control like that and taro is building up just generally taking map control and moving to the middle eventually and yeah jordan again seems like it's just a safe stable double layer layer of palestine as well being placed and oh yeah that's my jam i'm just gonna see both players blooming out at this point i don't think anything will happen really for the next couple of minutes so yeah pretty much uh everything i said completely wrong both these guys no worries about going to the middle of the just yet just i mean there is still going to be that point when you're you need to actually go to the middle because you're going to run out of gold and it's just going to be interesting it's probably going to be the distinction of is somebody going to go for a fourth town center or somebody just gonna wanna go click up to the imperial age yeah i think fourth tc will go up i think taro for sure will get like a fourth tc on the gold in front of him and maybe drop a castle there jordan i'm not so sure um because right now jordan doesn't have eunice right so he cannot move out he would have to make some there i say cavalier or any something along those lines in order to move out and get map control but jordan is taking stone right now so i rather see a fourth dc maybe on his main stone uh or and maybe even 50c like i feel jordan again is building up to us the same as deal arena long term he's planning to hit that button but he might play fairly standard until that point yeah certainly but uh regardless the one scout of course scout cavalry faster than light cavalry in case you guys didn't know will allow jordan to essentially run around forever maybe he sees the villager i think he would have seen it yeah second stable and cavalier upgrade coming in so tara must be going camels right well you're the expert on this uh it's not so simple no never except he is actually getting husbandry uh you have a monastery coming in it actually could be camels well makes sense yeah it's a very passive game though at least ted is making something happen right now uh he has some monastery out as well we'll see if that's gonna be joining the front or just going for the relics yeah it looks like it's just relics for the time being um yeah jordan with dick obviously taro cannot go for pikeman with turks you don't get uh pikeman or do you get the skirmishers so if he wants to have a counter to the cavalier it kind of has to be camel and camel it is indeed let's see camels queued up and out of could obviously maybe consider something like uh cat watcher play heavy cabbage play you could go in genesis series as well but yeah even i mean taro for putting a tc on stone so early he never started taking stone until now yeah i mean and like i said it wasn't a bad tc spot you know regardless so that is totally fine and you can easily just go for the fourth dc in the middle of the map and i just like this approach a little bit more than i do from jordan because with jordan you're just kind of pulled into your base you see tattoo dropping outposts on the sides just making sure he sees all that his opponent is up to and yeah it's down to jordan to bust out and taro also sees that the stable is garrison he just saw a cavalier as well so i don't know he knows exactly what is going on and he has a monk ready he has three camels and the light cap so he can bait those cavalier uh to his uh army and suddenly tattoo has kind of the better the better composition jordan moving out to the villager as well i guess he wants to drop a siege or maybe a town center at some point but somehow for a second barracks oh she's making a cavalier pikeman play here that is a very good composition for him against what tada was doing taro is suddenly going to be the one who has to make a text switch and either add maybe cat watchers maybe janissa is either way oh no conversion right there make that double no conversion and that's not what tattoo's looking for and now he's gonna be in full retreat mode monk probably gonna want to drop the relic actually no cavalier have awful line of sight oh i think that was probably a mistake because the monk wouldn't have been spotted otherwise well he will get that relic eventually at some point right it's so close to his base anyway and if jordan commits he would lose every cavalier so good choice but jordan to fall back there yeah jordan is going for villages for now so he's probably thinking about the castle towards the center as he's dropping a third barracks to the middle and don't see any pikemen being produced yet though so i'm a bit surprised by this heavy commitment on the barracks and then not producing anything yeah i just have plus one defense coming in here for tattoo this can just can be plus one plus one bloodlines husbandry all that good stuff but the army quality of jordan is a fair bit higher and fourth stable now from tattoo so it's just going to be all camel all day jordan has collected roughly 1 000 resources more than taro at this point as well so it makes sense with the burgundy economy being strong and jordan how snow though really unfortunate time to be housed is where he has his momentum going and you really don't want to be have any of your production being blocked if jordan really wants to secure a winning position right now he goes for a forward castle but he's going for a safe one in the middle hill and taro sending bills himself forward to drop his own castle and yeah looks like imperial age would be the next thing i i think now with the castles going up i don't think it makes sense to make more army nor invest all into upgrades because imperial age will be the next important thing for both players here yeah exactly and yet we see jordan continuing the pikeman production and that's only going to slow down his potential imperial timing and he's actually still making cavalier but i feel like the the sort of timing for a big castle age uh pike cav play is going to be gone right now had to even with some extra layers of walls coming in to secure more safe area in the back of his base which i really like well he is he has to kind of prepare in case there's a button that's being pushed you know so he sort of has to make sure he cannot be attacked from every angle jordan going for a fourth tc on the bottom side of his base and he might even do a 50z at some point and i feel like he's gonna play this very similarly to how he played against uh leary he's not gonna go for the instant paladin route i think but he will build up the village account slow and steady while trying to make something happen with all the units and then eventually push the button yeah and just having that as an option is just really powerful because you know at any moment when you feel like okay my opponent either doesn't have any ranged units or oh i took a nice fight i'm going to have an advantage and you can just you know hit the button and then win the game and we saw exactly uh jordan able to do just that a couple pikemen big moments on the bottom here taro gets the wall in time so jordan cannot enter galileo was about to enter its economy and tata with a bit of a counter attack with the camels but camos is not an offensive unit they don't have high damage output they can't really do too much by themselves and but taro is preparing for the cow watchers which so we will see that happen cavitch is probably one of the better units to deal with the flemish militia considering their mobility so um kind of making the right moves this is how he stopped nbl's flemish revolution i was gonna ask if you had seen that game yeah yeah that was a really nice play from tattoo mbl again another situation where i think he really didn't need to hit the button well i think against turks the late game late late game is really rough for burgundy's so i feel like you have to hit the button but the timing is the important part yeah yeah that's that's that's very true but right now those might be cavaliers but campbell's are still a good unit but of course once the pipeline show up the camels will retreat and now it's going to be a matter of interesting jordan's army's a little bit larger but it's also going to come down a lot to the power of siege units and turks with free chemistry they're going to really it's really going to help in winning this uh castlev castle fight yeah jordan dropping more stable so it actually looks like jordan wants to commit some paladin he's still producing paladin as well so he's gonna go halberd paladin in the imperial age and probably uh support that with trebuchets and bombing cannons as you would expect but i do like the composition teller has right now and this paladin it's still expensive to research even though you have the discount and it takes a long time for the upgrade to kick in so jordan now committing on a second cast leaving in the middle he really wants to hold the position i like what taro is doing though using his mobility just circling around and like being annoying and applying pressure on jordan's surroundings and potentially also cutting off reinforcements this heavy cav archer and heavy camel all the heavy stuff just needs to get heavy scorpion but yeah i mean tata is just going for the the big power upgrades right away really wants to just have that more powerful army jordan paladin plate farting armor just like we were predicting whoa whoa whoa whoa open the gate and open the gate this is not necessarily great for tara though it doesn't have all the upgrades for the armor for the camels and such so they might just all die before before he gets the upgrades he wants uh but still of course super annoying for jordan also has bomber cannon for tattoo out on the front so he'll pick off that trebuchet and artillery as well turks for some reason got a buff to their artillery attack which means it no longer costs stone to research artillery you can get that for just food and wood and i'm gonna save you guys my opinion on that but that's just another buff to an already super strong turks in today's meta i do not disagree with your sentiment but it is what it is and uh well it's not gonna be all that hard and if you're able to get artillery while still having tons of stone in the bank for more bombard towers or castles that's just going to be even better as turks are really strong at just securing uh you know map control they have all the building hp upgrades and stuff like that and a strong ranged army but all the have archers are going to be dying in the short run so that's going to be okay here for jordan it did buy a lot of time though jordan had to invest his whole military in the back and look at the army of tattle yes fairly good sized army already with heavy camels heavy cavalry archers and last arm upgrade as well and again jordan is heavily committing on the paladin right now and taro has counter units plus mobility and range so looking very solid for mr tatito here oh yeah and we have jordan kind of mining in the the center of course but also a little bit to the north and that's gonna be quite vulnerable potato able to uh raid that as much as you want and it's gonna be very it's gonna become very expensive very quickly to start repairing all uh the castles from all of these siege units gordon is doing the same thing he's he keeps producing villages non-stop while using the paladin as the buffer in between to buy the time maybe take some effective trades where he can and then once he feels like he has bought enough time and has to help the village numbers he's gonna put the button push the button orie at 132 he has queued up another 11 villagers so we will very likely see flemish revolution within the next couple of minutes and that is very likely going to determine the outcome of the game but jordan now jumping with the paladin on the siege of taro picking off the bomber candidates and going to pick up both the trebuchets as well knowing that tarou's army is out of position jordan takes advantage of that and cleans up all the siege of taro yeah that was a beautiful reaction it was like as soon as he saw that the uh the army of tattoo was rotating towards uh you know in between uh the base of jordan and the middle instantly sends his paladins right the other way snipes all of the siege units and this is going to buy jordan some critical time and that's all that jordan wants it but wants to buy the time to get to hit that button but now coming with a big arm in jordan's base and the thing is jordan doesn't want to lose villagers right now and the gate is open again oh and it closed again open the gate close the gate jordan is at the same time trying to make a doubt castle happen for taro but yeah the more villages jordan loose the longer flemish revolution is in theory getting delayed so jordan has to be careful and find a way to deal with that but yeah there's a lot of villages on the gold now as well as jordan great great counter attacker from taro taro by the way 35 villages behind now it hasn't really boomed up in the imperial age as you would expect but uh yeah still producing villagers for it seems like quite a while but the thing is that what's so good about this for tattoo is that because jordan was kind of banking on the flemish revolution play to give him an army until he actually is able to do that okay now he's doing it but in this whole window he just doesn't have a whole lot and tattoos army keeps on rising there we go now at this point it's time boys and girls i don't like this though i i don't like when they do flemish and they have for the population space left it doesn't feel right now jordan has three trebuchets he has no bomber cannons and tattoo can take so much so he can already kill so many flemish flemish militia on the way to the crossing the map because he has the mobility of the cav archers and the army valley jordan's on the 10k love it yeah jordan now obviously starting to boost wheelchairs behind the op thing about flemish as well is that all the villagers that turn into flemish militia they don't lose their resources resources go into your yeah that's pretty crazy that's not something that would be very intuitive yeah but yeah we have it 135 no 122 military for you know what he only has double the military tattoo at this point like this is already not worth it yeah i feel like this the odds of this working right now is very low the arm is coming in like a little bit of that it's not like all coming at once in like a big overwhelm it's kind of a little bit of time but the big number is about to hit but it's already dwindled down so much now this is still a super scary army don't get me wrong and taro will have to micro a lot and he will probably lose a lot of ground here and lose some castles but when all is said and done how much will jordan have been able to accomplish the thing is tattoo already with a decent amount of map control at least enough to secure the eastern side of the the ridge means that he has room to fall back with his more mobile unit like you're saying and now he's in a very nice little nook and these flemish militia are not going to be getting a very great surface areas there's kind of derping back and forth between the cav archers and the castle and this is pretty darn rough from jordan who drops below 100 population it doesn't really matter if these castles could go down it's all about just the the core of these flemish militia and they are just dropping fast and jordan now tara now has more military than jordan and he's sending the hustle and camels to try and get the trebuchets and save the castle he might even manage to because the villagers are repairing as well and once those trebuchets go down and the flemish militia are out of this picture i think we can expect a gg call from jordan tattoo again defending the flemish revolution with turks with the mobility of cav watchers and doing an impeccable job at doing so in jordan they're probably laughing now writing some texts smiling to each other oh yeah and i think jordan will be calling the gigi very very shortly as jordan is now down to 55 50 population we will not see this game last for too much longer indeed not which will mean that tattoo is going to be the third place uh i guess person completing for third place i don't know he gets their place in the open classic and jordan will be getting fourth and i think that makes sense tattoo you know barely missing out on the finals where it was a bit more of a decisive win between leary and jordan and the series was also quite decisive indeed very well played by taro and also even even against joe i feel like taro had such a good opportunity to win the set and go to the finals so it's i'm very happy to see taro performing at this level again and getting a really deep finish obviously the red bull last rebel was a big disappointment for him to not make it in through the qualifiers and in some other tournaments as well he has gone out mostly actually against hera to be fair so yeah uh happy to see taro get a top three finish in a prestigious s-tier tournament so congrats to him and also congrats to jordan for showing once again that the jordan is back meme is not just a meme yep it's uh i think it does a nice job for him and showing that okay the his run in hidden cup four wasn't just a fluke like he is uh you know he's actually back memes aside i think jordan even his goal for this tournament i think was top 16. so getting fourth place is definitely something he will be happy about yeah definitely yeah all right and with that we are uh we're all set except for the finals indeed grandfather coming up guys don't go anywhere this was the third place match we were joined by mr ornley which you can find on twitch.tv forward slash ornlu underscore aoe he also posts youtube content and he's one of my um what to say partners i guess associates helping out with thieves slave for my own youtube channel where he helps out with certain videos so um yeah definitely recommend guys to check out only he makes some silly jokes sometimes that might make you throw your pc out the window but that's fine you have to survive that and yeah thanks a lot for being here hope you enjoyed and i assume you will cast the final as well yes i will and thanks for having me on was a lot of fun of course and uh yeah enjoy enjoy the finals yeah my pleasure i'll see you around bye-bye see ya

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