The Meltdown of Disney Plus

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Out of all of the streaming services, Disney Plus  has had one of the most rocky roads from launch   and it turns out that the behind the scenes of  the platform is a lot more dire than we could have   imagined. I’ve been gearing up to do an overall  Disney Plus breakdown video, but the thing that   really springboarded this into existence is a  new article released by The Hollywood Reporter   that sheds light on a lot of major issues  behind the scenes that have been negatively   impacting MCU shows. So I’ll be covering a lot of  information revealed from this article while also   rounding up numerous other articles that go  into the controversies behind the scenes. And   I’ll link all this information into general big  issues with Disney Plus’ content strategy for the   MCU and Star Wars. So the first and most damning  revelation brought up by The Hollywood Reporter   is that none of the MCU shows have had actual  showrunners. First, I should probably describe the   role of a showrunner because it can get a little  confusing as to who’s in control of the creative   vision given so many positions like directors,  writers, producers, and executive producers that   have a say in how a show is made. The showrunner  essentially has full creative authority over a   series and manages every aspect about a show from  the writing, filming, and editing. And it’s up to   them if they want to personally be involved with  writing and directing certain episodes. Producers   and executive producers are technically higher on  the food chain, but their creative input entails   finding people to work on a project and supervise  the process to see if everything is running   smoothly and is also on budget. However, Marvel on  the other hand didn’t even bother with acquiring   showrunners. They generally approached directors  and asked them to pitch shows and they were   normally not heavily involved with the writing  process. The primary director of Moon Knight,   Mohamed Diab, said he was “approached out of the  blue” by Marvel and asked for him to pitch the   series. From here, they didn’t actually make him  the showrunner and brought on more creatives to   help lighten the workload. Luckily, Moon Knight is  an example of this actually working to a degree,   but a bad example where this was a similar case  was Secret Invasion. Now it was largely a mystery   as to why Secret Invasion was so expensive and  looked the least remarkable and most cheap of   the MCU shows. But it turns out that the show  was utterly plagued with production issues and   had a staggering four months of reshoots.  Along with the producers bringing on a new   writer during that period to write new material.  So they essentially re-made a solid chunk of   Secret Invasion in that time. To go into more  detail behind the scenes for Secret Invasion,   the worrying signs started with Kyle Bradstreet  writing scripts for the show for almost a year,   until Marvel spontaneously decided that they  wanted to take the show in a different direction   and drop kicked him out of the series. They hired  a few directors and a new writer and allegedly   none of them got along during pre-production. It  was an absolute shitstorm as this unproductive   crew worked inefficiently and by a certain point,  they were burning through their allotted schedule   to the point that they lost one of the directors  due to scheduling conflicts, forcing Ali Selim to   now direct every episode. On top of most of the  people working on the show getting replaced.   The Marvel executive who was overseeing Secret  Invasion upsetted the company so much to the point   that his contract will not be getting renewed. So  Secret Invasion was an absolute nightmare behind   the scenes and I think is one of the straws that  broke the camel's back for Marvel in realizing   that this model is not sustainable. Along with it  fundamentally delivering a worse product because   by having so many conflicting creative opinions,  the show will feel like a mess as everyone tries   to get on the same page. Secret Invasion was  this hideous Frankenstein baby that failed to   deliver on the premise of the show and was this  weird mash-up of crappy spy espionage, half-assed   paranoia, and so much more that I dive into for  a twenty-minute video I’ll put in the end screen   if you’re interested. Then there’s also the issue  that Disney didn’t hire on more Marvel executives   to oversee TV shows that suddenly landed on  their doorsteps because of Disney Plus. Instead,   the existing executives working for Marvel had  to split their time between the movies and the   shows. Which this piece of information to me is  a major reason why Marvel has quickly been going   off a cliff in terms of quality. They essentially  doubled their output of Marvel content over night   and they were clearly not ready to handle the  massive amount of work. Because before this   they had 2 to 3 movies a year they had to worry  about, along with those movies just being around   two hours. So actually, they more than tripled  the amount of content they had to worry about   because the shows generally run for around 4 to  5 hours. Like you’d probably be surprised if I   told you in 2021 Disney Plus released five MCU  shows. At a certain point there must have been   well over a dozen Marvel projects being worked on  at a single time. From here, Kevin Fiege probably   couldn’t be as involved as he would want to be  with most of these projects. It seems like he   put his faith in the creatives, despite there not  being showrunners. So scripts clearly deteriorated   and there have been a plethora of writing problems  on almost every MCU project coming up, especially   Blade which seems to be in a perpetual hell of  writing. Now the proof that points to Kevin Fiege   most likely not having enough supervision over MCU  content is what just happened with Daredevil Born   Again. This event was the major talking point  of the Hollywood Reporter article. It reveals   Marvel firing all the writers and directors on the  series because Fiege disliked the direction and   quality of the show. Funnily enough, the writers  strike actually gave Fiege some breathing room   and allowed him to fully review the first  4 episodes that were shot before production   shut down. And since he didn’t like what he saw,  which apparently Matt Murdoch doesn’t actually put   on his suit until episode 4 and was just a legal  drama basically, he hit the reset button on the   show. So thankfully this strike led to more great  things besides giving writers significantly better   contracts. The strike saved a fan-favorite show  from possibly another Secret Invasion esque fate.   Without the strike it’s likely that this show  would have continued shooting without a gauruntee   as to whether it would’ve been good. Generally in  television you would make a pilot episode. Which   would act as the first episode of the series that  you would then show to the producers to greenlight   the rest of the season. Or if they didn’t  like the pilot, they’d save money and say no   by not continuing production on the entire show.  Because it’s fundamentally better to lose money   on 1 episode instead of funding a multi-hour long  failure. Marvel however didn’t do this and just   greenlighted shows on the faith that the creatives  were hopefully competent enough to work on the   project, the scripts were finished and passable,  and in general they started floating this notion   that any issues they’d run into in production they  could fix in post. Which is an utter nightmare   for anyone working in the industry. It leads  to a lazy form of filmmaking with not enough   planning being done and it also sends VFX artists  into a frenzy because inexperienced directors are   constantly making changes on already finished  shots with VFX. Or producers are finally seeing   the finished product and are now throwing in their  own notes for changes. Thus adding to the budget   and forcing those artists to crunch even more.  When people bash bad VFX in Marvel movies and   is this major reason as to why these movies or  shows are bad, I just feel disconnected by the   conversation because the artists making these  shots are actually very talented and are being   rused to finish their work. Most people will  always point out the bad VFX, but to be fair   they do deliver some genuinely great shots that  look incredible at times. It just unfortunately   breaks your immersion when those occasional bad  shots do arise. Like it’s been reported that   Marvel productions are regularly making changes  on their projects right up until the deadline.   Which just seems insane to me because with proper  planning and pre-production that should never be   the case. Your movie or show should be perfectly  planned out to the point that you don’t drive up   the budget of the show while simultaneously  hurting quality. However, this takes time and   since Marvel Studios essentially had a quota of  about 3 shows a year, they didn’t have the luxury   of time so therefore the quality started to tank.  Even though it seems counterproductive to have a   lack of planning and then go through months of  reshoots. All of this amalgamates into Marvel   feeling more like a conveyer belt of content  instead of something that is more driven by   creativity and passion. We do occasionally  get those shows like Loki and Moon Knight,   but other shows like Wandavision which were good,  clearly had some really inconsistent patches like   the ending that just felt like a complete mess.  Or the obvious elephant in the room that is Secret   Invasion in which Marvel just tossed 200 million  dollars off to a group of creatives in the hopes   that they’d return with a good show. So since  we’ve essentially assessed the absolute chaos   behind the scenes at Disney Plus and why so  much of their content has been lacking, let’s   now see how this impacts the streaming service  as a whole and the major issues that creates. Going into the biggest problem is that for  both Marvel and Star Wars, Disney is flooding   the market with so much content to the point that  they are oversaturating and damaging their brand.   Now this is a very nuanced subject that I’ll  elaborate on and there is definitely another   side to this coin. And that side is what  James Gunn brings up in that people aren’t   getting superhero fatigue and instead they are  getting bad writing or bad story fatigue. For me,   I pretty much agree with this sentiment because  if we kept getting S-tier Marvel content like   Winter Soldier, Thor: Ragnarok, and Guardians of  the Galaxy then people would be perfectly happy.   Those movies were all refreshing and told  great stories that were imbued with so much   creativity and love. And their follow-ups were all  generally pretty good and I feel like Guardians of   the Galaxy 3 is living proof that people aren’t  fatigued by overall superhero movies. Like if I   were to personally rank phase 4 it would look  something like this, and in comparison this is   how I would rank the first 3 phases. Which is a  pretty depressing contrast. People are much more   aware to the deteriorating quality of the content  to the point that reviews now make or break Marvel   movies. That’s why Ant-Man Quantumania did poorly  at the box-office because critics and fans ripped   that movie apart, leaving people on the fence  to either skip it entirely or wait until it   comes out on Disney Plus. Despite Quantumania  having some hype marketing in that they were   introducing Kang as the new big threat. So  this waning quality paired with a drastic   uptick in content on Disney Plus is what’s  driving the community to this burnt out view. Then another aspect for the MCU in particular is  that the universe is exponentially expanding to   an alarming degree with so many new characters and  plot threads to the point that it’s overwhelming.   For every show they seemingly create more loose  ends than they do for plotlines they conclude. To   go through some examples, WandaVision establishes  4 separate plotlines, some of which have no clear   plan for the future like white vision being set  loose into the world, Hawkeye oddly sets up a lot   of different plotlines, new characters some times  show up out of the blue like in She-Hulk where   Hulk randomly has a son now, Secret Invasion  introduces the most overpowered character in   the MCU who will show up at some other point  I guess, and even shows that are meant to be   a mini-series end up concluding on a cliffhanger.  Actually looking back at Moon Knight I completely   forgot that this character became a superhero.  Then this isn’t even bringing into account the   usual end credit scene introductions for the  movies. At this point it feels like cutting off   the head of a hydra in which when one story ends  two more take it’s place. On top of all of this   being compounded by Disney Plus adding more wood  to the fire. This does vary per person because   fans who watch every show or movie may not care as  much, but for casuals it’s really uninviting. You   now have to ingest dozens of hours of content just  to understand where these characters came from.   The Marvels as an example features two characters  that originated in two separate shows each over 4   hours long, so to understand the complexities and  context for these characters, you need to watch   their shows. Or you have a situation like Doctor  Strange and the Multiverse of Madness where fans   who didn’t watch WandaVision were confused about  why Wanda was suddenly a villain. The Marvels   may not require you to watch Ms. Marvel and  WandaVision to understand these new characters,   because they’ll probably re-introduce them in a  new way that’s digestible for casual moviegoers,   but that notion will always be in the back of  your head that you are missing a part of their   story. Because at the end of the day, you miss an  entire arc that these characters went on in their   own shows. This state in comparison to the first  few phases were much more casual viewer-friendly.   All we had were a small handful of characters that  took on conflict that wasn’t too overwhelming from   an overarching story perspective. The dynamics  between these characters had a significant amount   of depth and were all able to be explored to  a good extent. Like I’d honestly be surprised   if we ever get a deeply personal moment again  where Tony Stark finds out that Bucky killed   his parents. I know we're primarily in a phase  where we're setting things up again, but with   so many more characters it’s hard to imagine  them getting back to that level of depth that   we had between Iron Man and Captain America. Now,  I just shutter at the thought of anyone trying to   write or direct the next Avengers movie because  the amount of characters has more than doubled.   Infinity War did an excellent job balancing  out its cast of characters, but the question   is will that still work for the next Avengers  movie if we bring in every single superhero   we’ve been setting up. There’s almost no way  we can get back to that level of detail from   the earlier phases because by doing that,  you’ll have to cut out a lot of screen time   for other heroes. Which begs the question, why  introduce so many if they aren’t going to be that   important later on? I know this is a comic book  thing where you have like a hundred characters,   but I’d argue that’s more unsustainable in a  movie or show setting. People tend to want quality   over quantity and the current track record for  Disney Plus has shown us that we can’t have both. Taking a look over at Star Wars, there are  obviously many issues for each project that   generally have to do with the writing, but I  want to take a look at a larger problem with   their shows on Disney Plus. And that’s the lack  of creative and new ideas for the franchise. Now   there are very few like the Mandalorian, but even  that show has devolved into even bringing back   likeable characters that in turn deteriorate their  strong payoff earlier in the story. Every single   show essentially takes place within one time  period of the universe because that is where these   recognizable characters are, and thus, more people  will pay to watch it. That’s just the sad truth   because there’s nothing that will inherently draw  in tons of viewers right away if a show doesn’t   have major recognizable characters in them. Like  Ahsoka as an example included Anakin Skywalker and   the entire fandom lost their collective minds and  thought it was the best thing ever. So when Disney   is at a crossroads of making original stories with  new characters or mining the nostalgia of fans   with bringing back existing popular characters,  you can probably guess which path they will take.   It more or less stifles creativity when you force  future stories through a bottleneck when there are   so many other eras within the universe you can  explore. Disney has said that they are planning   on doing that, but given that they are cutting  back on producing more shows it’s unclear how   many we are really going to get given that Dave  Filoni and Jon Favreau are taking up a lot of   the real estate. The Acolyte is promising but  that seems to still be far away. Besides that,   the current state of Star Wars has been extremely  rough and the only show that has been truly great   is Andor. And sadly that show didn’t perform well  because it didn’t have an iconic character backing   it and it also probably hurts that people are  burnt out on the rebel storyline. Despite the   show genuinely having some outstanding dramatic  writing. So we're at a point where the other   half of content on Disney Plus has people mostly  tired of it and desperately wanting something new   and refreshing. Also, it’s not necessarily a bad  thing to tell stories of existing characters like   Obi-Wan. The issue however arises when someone  doesn’t have an original and great vision for   the series and Disney forces and rushes the show  into existence. Or if they do have a good vision,   Disney may step in and jerry rig it into a happy,  light hearted, mini-series when it was supposed   to be a darker movie akin to Logan. Which in turn  angers the fans who want to love your franchise. This is essentially going into the next point in  that a lot of mini-series on Disney Plus feel like   they would have been better suited to be movies.  At a certain point you have to ask yourself,   is it better to have a 150 to 200 million dollar  budget for 6 to 8 episodes that have unnecessary   elements and a slow pace, or just condense it  down to a solid 2 hour plus movie that is of a   much higher quality. Because the production value  for a lot of these shows feels cheap at times and   that really comes through for any action scene. It  has the rushed and lazy TV show feel and this is   felt the most in Star Wars where lightsaber fights  are supposed to be elaborately crafted with great   choreography, dynamic movements, awe-inspiring  settings, and more. But on a TV show schedule and   budget, the creators probably don’t have enough  time and rehearsal to get footage that looks   great. So to partially get around this, the action  is in turn not as high effort. Leading to what   feels like an overall downgrade. Or narratively  a lot of these shows were initially being written   as movies and then management busted through the  door and saw potential to up Disney Plus’ catalog.   Examples being Obi-Wan and Secret Invasion. Maybe  then Secret Invasion could actually afford to   include more characters within its story because  that kind of premise desperately needed more than   just Rhodey and Everett Ross showing up. But the  reality is that these actors are very expensive   so even though Secret Invasion has a large  budget, they sadly can’t afford a large roster of   characters that the MCU has. Which does seem kind  of counterproductive in that you’ve introduced   and brought in so many characters, but having  multiple of them in your shows or movies would   be too expensive because their price tags are in  the millions. There are only a small handful of   shows like WandaVision, Loki, She-Hulk despite my  dislike for it, and Andor that feel like they were   specifically made for TV and if they were movies  it would only be a downgrade for their stories.   They earn their time because every episode is  extremely productive in terms of its narrative   and how it grows their characters. They have wide  sprawling and fun stories instead of something   that is stretched out to fit 6 episodes. Looking  at you Jon Favreau. The Book of Boba Fett could   have easily just been a movie and maybe then  they’d actually try to make their action scenes   look half decent. This seems to primarily be the  management of who’s running these shows because   when you look over at HBO, shows like House  of the Dragon that have a similar budget feel   significantly better and of a higher quality than  anything Disney Plus has to offer. I used to think   that it was just the directors who were butchering  these shows when in reality the fault probably   goes much higher and wider than that. Although  some directors are clearly worse than others.   Disney Plus does have their occasional gems, but  most of them seem to be isolated cases of Disney   stumbling onto a passionate creator that genuinely  want to make something outstanding. Instead of   their usual current affairs where the studio comes  up with an idea and finds someone to make it who   doesn’t have a story that’s deeply engaging. The  crazy thing is this was essentially the inception   of The Force Awakens where Disney forced a sequel  to happen and the writers had no idea what to do   so they essentially just copied A New Hope. Were  at a point where people are starting to despise   the two types of content that Disney Plus has  to offer, and this goes into my final point   for Disney Plus’ overall issues. Which is simply,  Disney Plus only has Marvel and Star Wars content.   They basically have no other high quality and  sought after original shows with unique stories   that people want to watch. When you look at every  other platform, their most popular show tends to   be an original series that balloons into having  immense popularity. Like Netflix having Stranger   Things, Apple having Ted Lasso or Severance,  Amazon Prime having The Boys, and really any   show on HBO at this point. But for Disney Plus?  They seem to be putting all of their eggs into   two baskets and even shows that they do make like  Willow, that aren’t based on Marvel or Star Wars,   they instantly cancel and immediately remove off  of their streaming service as if they were deeply   embarrassed by it. Not saying that that show  was good or anything, I don’t think anyone even   watched that show or wanted it. It just seems like  a baffling decision to give an obscure and niche   IP its own show with a $100 million dollar budget.  Again going back to them probably needing to make   pilots for their shows and having higher quality  assurance. Currently, the only big show coming   out on Disney Plus that isn’t Marvel or Star Wars  related is another adaptation of Percy Jackson and   the Olympians. I hope this show is good, but given  that Disney Plus has garnered a bad reputation   for low quality shows, I’m not exactly excited for  this series when normally I would be. It’s kind of   sad, but you can only disappoint fans for so long  until they cut ties to your streaming service.   Which is pretty surprising considering that Disney  Plus has really only been around for a few years. So I don’t necessarily want to end this video  on a depressing and gloomy note of Disney Plus   and the content they're making being terrible  because at least on the side of MCU content,   they are making strides to do better. They’re  going to start hiring showrunners for upcoming   shows who have a more consistent and creative  vision so that there isn’t a constant frenzy   behind the scenes. They’re going to start hiring  more TV executives so that they aren’t stretched   thin between movies and shows. It’s rumored that  Kevin Feige is going to start hiring more tried   and tested talent instead of relative unknowns.  Mainly because by hiring new directors there’s a   bit of uncertainty as to whether they will perform  well, so they end up needing to be supervised   more. They’ve also seemed to be hiring more  experienced writers like Nic Pizzolato for Blade   who was the writer for True Detective and Lee  Sung Jin for Thunderbolts who wrote Beef. So they   probably won’t take another chance on someone like  Jeff Loveness again who wrote Ant-Man Quantumania.   Because prior to that his primary experience  was writing some Rick and Morty episodes. Then   finally they are going to start focusing on more  serialized TV. This means shows will be geared   towards multiple seasons instead of mini-series  that are unsure about whether or not they’re   getting another season. So these four changes will  hopefully lead to better and more fine-tuned shows   on Disney Plus. The writing itself will still  be a major indicator for quality obviously,   but at least the environment for making  this content won’t be so hospitable. Also,   another major change coming to Disney Plus is that  it’s going to be combined with Hulu in an attempt   to increase the value of the overall package. The  main reason this is happening is because Disney   Plus hasn’t made any money since it started. It’s  been operating at a constant loss every quarter,   some of which Disney has lost 500 Million to even  a billion dollars. This was honestly a pretty   major revelation to me and it also seems that the  service is starting to go down a spiral in that,   for the last two quarters they reported losses  for subscribers. Disney Plus does have over   146 million subscribers which is the third  highest so It’s kind of surprising that they   are losing this much money. Probably points to  the behind-the-scenes of the service being even   worse than what we just went over in this video.  So yeah, I’ll end it here since the video is   getting really long and I didn’t want to go on an  unhinged MCU rant and wanted to provide some kind   of new perspective. So hopefully this video was  informative in some way. Thank you for watching   and check out my socials for Letterboxd,  Discord, and Patreon in the description.
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Keywords: The Meltdown of Disney Plus, Disney plus, Disney+, Marvel, Star Wars, MCU, Secret Invasion, Ahsoka, Marvel bad, Star wars bad, Disney Plus meltdown, Obi Wan, Secret Invasion show, Supercuts delight, Supercuts delight marvel, Marvel phase 4 sucks, Marvel phase 5, Marvel phase 4, Marvel VFX, Marvel bad VFX
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Length: 22min 45sec (1365 seconds)
Published: Tue Oct 17 2023
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