The LED Traffic Light and the Danger of "But Sometimes!"

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Awesome video. I love these in-depth videos about stuff I never even think about. And it also touches on a bigger issue in today's society.

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I really learned a lot in this video. Great share. Thank you.

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Well you seemed to like the jacket, soā€¦ Iā€™ll keep it. I have a bit of a fascination with stop lights (or traffic lights, if you prefer). They boil down to remarkably simple devices, little more than indicators, but thanks to driverā€™s education and the magic of the human brain, they are remarkably effective at safely controlling traffic at intersections. Well, most of the time. Now, thereā€™s so much to get into regarding traffic lights. Traffic engineering is a fascinating subject which I donā€™t feel qualified to discuss, but thereā€™s quite the rabbit hole to fall into. This video is about a simple but groundbreaking innovation in the traffic light and the lessons it can tell us about innovation in general. This is about the LED traffic light, and the caution of ā€œbut sometimesā€. I live in an area of my town thatā€™s not terribly well traveled. Though there are many 4 lane roads with speed limits of 35 to 40 miles an hour, the traffic volume honestly doesnā€™t often justify having two lanes in each direction. Many of the stop lights in this area have been neglected, and are still using good-ā€™ol fashioned incandescent bulbs with colored glass lenses. Actually, some are so old that they still have the written text ā€œWALKā€™ and ā€œDONā€™T WALKā€ in their pedestrian signals, and there are even a few that use the old 8 inch lenses for the green and yellow lights, with only the important red light getting a full 12 inch lens. Granted, these stop lights have had their control systems upgraded over the years. There are vehicle presence detectors embedded in the road surface to alter their timing and behavior, and they are equipped with photocells to detect the tuned strobe light on emergency vehicles and stop traffic in opposing directions. And some have even had countdown timers added to the pedestrian signals. But the fixtures themselves have remained mostly unchanged. They are still the same incandescent traffic lights that may very well have been in place for a good number of decades. I should add that vehicle presence detection has been around long before the LED traffic light, and itā€™s very likely these intersections have the same control equipment theyā€™ve always had. But in any case, the fact that they are still using incandescent lamp technology... is a little odd. Setting aside the nostalgic or aesthetic reasons to prefer an incandescent stop light (Iā€™ll admit the fade-in fade-out as each light changes states is charming), the LED traffic light is just objectively better in nearly every respect. For example, Incandescent stoplight fixtures, because they are designed to be opened to replace the bulb, typically get dirty on the inside over time. And it seems the technicians who replace the lamps often donā€™t seem bothered to clean the lenses or reflectors. This leads to many lights with a dull appearance thatā€™s hard to see in bright sunlight. This obviously isnā€™t great, and is actually kinda dangerous, but whatever. The LED light, on the other hand, is completely sealed. In fact... hereā€™s an LED traffic light module. Yes, they really are this big, they just seem much smaller when theyā€™re grandstanding on their pedestals or hanging up high in the air . These are designed with the ability to replace the lenses in existing incandescent lights and function as a retrofit device, as well as simply be the default standard for new traffic light installations. Because the entire module is replaced if needed, it can be completely sealed. LED lights thus donā€™t end up looking like... that. These LED modules use about a 10th the energy of the incandescent lights they replace, which is not only great for energy savings, but it means battery backups for the lighting control system can keep the intersection controlled for hours even during a blackout. And of course, they last so much longer than the light bulbs in an old fashioned fixture do. This 116 watt light from Sylvania only lasts 8,000 hours, which may seem like a lot, but assuming a roughly 50/50 on time for green and red, that wonā€™t even cover two years. And since pretty much every intersection has at least 2 lights visible in each direction, thereā€™s a total of at least 16 of these bad boys in a very small intersection, not including yellow. This would mean that a light will go out about every two months, and let me tell you, thatā€™s remarkably in line with how often I see a light go out at any given intersection. In fact, on the day I left to start taking photos of the stoplights around me like the big ā€˜ol dork that I am, this light burnt out. Granted, there are two other lights providing redundancy, but they're also really dirty and hard to see anyway. I went out again a few days later to take some photos I had forgotten to take, and now this light is also out. What fun! At this one intersection, including all arrows, pedestrian signals, and standard orb indicators, there are 94 lights just waiting to burn out. Conversely, you almost never see an LED stoplight with a signal thatā€™s out. They last so long that itā€™s a very rare occurrence. It does happen, itā€™s not like they last forever. But even when they do fail, some designs donā€™t even fail all at once, with this module still mostly functional save for some dead diodes. In the past two years, Iā€™ve only seen one LED light completely fail anywhere, whereas Iā€™ve seen about a dozen lights go out just in my neighborhood. Now, I canā€™t tell you why my local streets and sanitation department (or whatever agency is tasked with maintaining these specific traffic controls) hasnā€™t invested in retrofitting these stoplights with LED replacements. Theyā€™re just an odd holdout, I guess, or perhaps they think itā€™s cheaper to just do things as they are. News flash-- it isnā€™t, because if these lights do use 116 watt bulbs, then with pedestrian signals included, at any given time the intersection is using around a kilowatt and a half (or more), meaning it costs about $3.60 to operate daily assuming average rates in Illinois. Add to that the cost of relamping the fixtures every two years , or far more likely the reactionary maintenance when a lamp fails multiple times a year, and it seems really foolish to still be using these traffic lights as they are. Especially because these modules typically end up on eBay or elsewhere for about $10 each. I donā€™t know how much they cost new from the manufacturer, but I canā€™t imagine theyā€™re terribly expensive. But, when the LED stoplight first made its way onto the scene, one of its central advantages became a disadvantage. See, because the good ā€˜ol incandescent bulb is so terribly inefficient, it spews a lot of heat out all sides and kept the fixtures toasty warm. This had the lovely side effect of keeping snow and ice from building up on them in cold climates. Many municipalities started discovering that their new LED fixtures, which are 10 times more efficient and thus release just 10% the heat, didnā€™t do that. In bad snow storms with high winds, it is very possible for the snow to make its way past the visor and stick to the face of the stoplight. Not producing enough heat to melt this snow, the LED stop light might become impossible to see in this scenario. This caused quite a few accidents, some of which were regrettably fatal. However, if the drivers at fault remembered their driverā€™s education, a stoplight that isnā€™t indicating should be treated as a stop sign, turning the intersection into an all-way stop. But people are stupid, so accidents happen. As you may imagine, the news reports started flooding in. ā€œEnergy efficient stop lights cause accidents!ā€ ā€œThese new LED stoplights canā€™t melt snow!ā€ ā€œThe green revolution know no bounds--cold traffic lights leave drivers confused!ā€ Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. The really stupid articles pointed out that, while a solution might be possible, it would eat into the energy savings presented by the LEDs. That is a really dumb argument, as weā€™ll discuss momentarily. I even recall a news report when I was younger suggesting that a heated surface would use MORE energy than an incandescent traffic light, so really, whatā€™s the point?! This is the danger of ā€œBut sometimesā€. It goes a little something like this: The LED stoplight is more energy efficient, costs less to operate, requires less maintenance, can allow for a feasible battery backup solution, lasts longer, are brighter and easier to see (particularly in direct sunlight) BUT SOMETIMES snow and ice builds up on them, so clearly they are bad. Ugh, this makes me so disappointed in humanity! When thereā€™s a new innovation which changes how we do things for the better, its benefits are obvious. The LED stoplight is a perfect example. It allows stoplights to better accomplish their rather important task of being visible, makes them more reliable than (and with battery backup makes them functionally superior to) an incandescent light, and saves municipalities thousands of dollars, with Wisconsin reporting in 2009 that they save $750,000 in energy costs annually, which isnā€™t even mentioning maintenance costs. However, when the ā€œBut Sometimesā€ rears its ugly head, people tend to freak out. Suddenly, all those benefits go away, because in this one particular facet of stoplight functionality, the wasteful and maintenance-heavy incandescent lamp is accidentally superior. Suddenly, when the new solution presents a new problem, all we think about is the problem. Which leads to the truly stupid part of this argument. But Sometimes occurs only some of the time! Itā€™s a sometimes! Articles that complain about a potential solution requiring more energy, and thus reducing the efficiency of the new LED stop light, just kinda gloss over the fact that on every day itā€™s NOT snowing, the issue is completely irrelevant. Sure, if we add heaters to the LED module to melt snow it might need more power, but only when itā€™s snowing, dingus! It wouldnā€™t take too much imagination to enable wireless control of an intersectionā€™s stoplights to turn on the heaters while it snows. Even if the lights used a bit more power while the heaters are on, the other 300 days of the year when itā€™s NOT snowing donā€™t just go away. It doesnā€™t take too much thinking to realize that it's still saving a lot of energy over the long run. And again, the traffic light is not at fault when an accident occurs. All drivers know (or at least should know) that a malfunctioning traffic light means you must stop and proceed with caution. But we trust people so little on remembering this simple procedure that nearly every intersection has a folded up stop sign ready to be deployed when the traffic lights fail. Iā€™m not opposed to that, I think itā€™s a good idea, but in reality it shouldnā€™t be necessary. Also, in personal experience, a snow storm severe enough to cause buildup on the traffic light lenses is pretty out of the ordinary. Iā€™ve never personally encountered a traffic light thatā€™s completely obscured with snow. Iā€™ve seen some partially, but never enough to make the signal impossible to distinguish. After all, there are pretty big visors over the lenses, so itā€™s got to be a real blizzard to cause a problem. And really, in those conditions, you should just avoid driving altogether. This isnā€™t to say that the problem doesnā€™t happen. Surely it does. But come on, itā€™s not frequent at all. Now, the correct response to the ā€œbut sometimesā€ is to account for that sometimes and solve the problem. One potential way that doesnā€™t use any energy is through an altered visor with a scoop on top designed to redirect wind to flow across the lens and blow snow off of it. But for those wanting a more high-tech solution, well take a look at this. General Electric now sells what they call ā€œGTX Flex LED Heated Shellā€. These traffic light modules have defroster wires across their face, just like the rear window of your car. Whatā€™s more, they have sensors onboard measuring temperature and humidity to determine when icing conditions are likely and automatically switch on the heaters. The spec sheet says these heaters use only 30 watts, which means even when they are all on, a three-light traffic light is using less power than a single incandescent bulb. Not much less, but I must remind you that the need for the heater is rare, and only a sometimes. It looks like this is a relatively new product, with the site touting it as NEW and the copyright date on the spec sheet being 2016. So it seems we got along well enough without this innovation for, uh, for a while. Probably because people realized how infrequent the problem actually is, but anyway--the problem has been solved. The ā€œbut sometimesā€ is now a never. The moral of this story is that when faced with a unique, unforeseen, or difficult problem that comes about as a result of doing things in a different way, donā€™t just give up! Itā€™s beyond foolish to fly in the face of progress, especially when the result of the progress is so obviously better, just because thereā€™s a tiny little sometimes maybe issue that we havenā€™t had before. Iā€™ll bet you no municipality that has switched to LED traffic signals wants to go back to the old way of doing things. But thatā€™s what news articles and media coverage like this seem to advocate for. Now, obviously I donā€™t want us to not acknowledge problems. That would be silly. But when discussing these problems, we need to look at them from all sides. Just how bad is the problem, really? How often does it occur? What would we be giving up if we abandoned our efforts, and should we abandon them? What can we do to combat the problem? Does the problem need a technical fix, or do we need to re-educate people and adjust their behavior? Perhaps the problem isnā€™t so much a problem, rather itā€™s a need for change elsewhere. But for goodness sake, we need to work to solve the problem. Every innovation has changed how we do things in some way. Thatā€™s the very idea of progress. Sometimes this change brings new issues to light, and may bring inconveniences from time to time. But I donā€™t think this should be seen as a reason to stop progress. I hope that as new technologies and innovations become available that provide us advantages just as the LED traffic light has that we donā€™t simply focus on the new problems they might create. Together, we should be asking how to solve those new problems. When we ask that question and work towards the answers, we can truly make progress. Ok, so thereā€™s some other stuff I want to bring up real quick. First, Iā€™m officially launching my second channel. Head on over to Tecnhnology Connections 2 if youā€™d like to see whatā€™s on the inside of one of these LED modules. Iā€™ve always been a little curious. Donā€™t, uh, donā€™t go over just yet, hang on a sec. Ok, well hereā€™s a card, but the endscreen will have it, too. And thereā€™s a link down below. One thing that Iā€™ve noticed change about traffic light behavior is the timing of the right turn arrow. I realize this whole video has been from the perspective of the US, where we drive on the right and our traffic signals look like, well like that and all the things youā€™ve been seeing in the video, so maybe this isnā€™t a thing in other countries, and honestly this could be a regional thing within the US. But at intersections where there are both left turn only and right turn only lanes, the right turn lane will typically get a green arrow while the opposing traffic gets a protected left, because no one will be coming from the left hand side going straight across. It used to be very common for the green arrow to light up as soon as the the yellow light appeared, which was great because it meant if you were turning right, you knew that you could just proceed even though forward traffic was about to stop. Most intersections these days seem to wait until the opposing traffic gets their protected left before illuminating the right turn arrow, which means you need to stop before you actually get that arrow. I suppose this might be a safety thing, but really I canā€™t see how much safer it is because pedestrians would not be entering the intersection at all while thereā€™s a protected left because vehicles will be crossing their path no matter which direction they are going. And itā€™s really annoying in this age of distracted driving, because some drivers see the light turning red, come to a stop, and then look at their phones without realizing there's a turn arrow now illuminated. If the arrow were already lit, they could have just kept going and annoyed someone elsewhere Going back to my particular townā€™s situation, thereā€™s one intersection near me thatā€™s an absolute hodge podge of stuff. Almost nothing matches anymore in this intersection. There are individual LED retrofits among incandescent lights, such as this pair of signals where there is only one LED signal among the 10 total lights. But most amusingly, the pedestrian signals are almost all completely different. There are still some old written Walk/Donā€™t Walk signs combines into a single fixture, then thereā€™s the newer pictographic signals with the talk to the hand and the walking white guy, then thereā€™s an LED version of the same thing with two distinct shapes, and thereā€™s an LED signal where the shapes are combined, and finally thereā€™s ONE that has a countdown timer. That strikes me as particularly odd because it means the controller for this intersection is capable of driving a countdown timer, so clearly it has been updated within the last decade or two, but there are some comparatively ancient fixtures here. I realize this style of light where there are multiple diodes right at the face that fail over time is kind of an old style at this point. Most newer traffic lights are like these, where they are designed to mimic how incandescent fixtures look. In fact, GE calls these ā€œincandescent lookā€. Thatā€™s part of why I want to check out the innards of one of these. I doubt thereā€™s a single 10W LED chip in here, so I would imagine they also donā€™t necessarily fail all together, but it would be a lot harder to tell if itā€™s failing at a glance. I glossed over the vehicle presence detection a little bit and just showed what it looks like, and sometimes this isnā€™t even visible. Generally, there will be a loop of wire embedded below the road surface that's designed... (camera beeped) Really? I glossed over the vehicle presence detection a little bit and just showed what it looks like, and sometimes this isnā€™t even visible. Generally, there will be loops of wire embedded below the road surface that are designed to detect a change in their magnetic field brought about by a large metal object above them (such as a vehicle) You can often see these, particularly if they were added to an already existing road surface. Sometimes youā€™ll notice them way far back from the intersection, and by adding them here the traffic control system can count how many vehicles are approaching and thus how much time is needed for them to cross the intersection. Thereā€™s some pretty clever thought going into all these systems. Oh, and sometimes youā€™ll see cameras up where the traffic signals are, and some of these are used for presence detection using computer vision. Also, the emergency vehicle detectors are a pretty neat thing that perhaps you know how they work, but Iā€™ll tell ya anyway. I said ā€œtuned strobe lightā€ earlier. What I mean by that is that emergency vehicles have a single white strobe light, often in the center of their light bars, which flashes at a very specific frequency. Itā€™s often hard to see on video because... strobe lights and video just donā€™t really get along, but itā€™s this one here on this ambulance. The traffic light controller is looking for a signal at that specific frequency coming from the photocells up top, and when it sees it it will begin stopping traffic. These white indicators are used to confirm to the driver of the emergency vehicle that the signal was received and that opposing traffic is being stopped. In Illinois, where I live, the lights will flash in the direction the emergency vehicle is coming from, and they will illuminate steadily for opposing traffic to warn them an emergency vehicle is coming. Interestingly, this isnā€™t really taught in driverā€™s ed, and the lights donā€™t have any sort of sign to explain their purpose, but hopefully enough people have figured this out to make them useful. Lastly, for those towns who like the charm of these old 8 inch stop light fixtures, youā€™ll be happy to know that GE (and probably others, too) make LED retrofits for these. So come on, guys. Letā€™s get with the program. Thanks for watching, I hope you enjoyed the video! If this is your first time coming across the channel, please consider subscribing. As always, a HUGE thank you to supporters on Patreon! Your support is what keeps these videos coming. If youā€™re interested in supporting the channel too, please check out my Patreon page! Thanks for your consideration. Alright, so if you would, head on over to Technology Connections 2, and itā€™d be super great if youā€™d subscribe there! Iā€™ll be putting more extra content up there as time goes on. Iā€™ll see you next time!
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Length: 18min 31sec (1111 seconds)
Published: Mon May 14 2018
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