The Last Comeback: Tim Richmond's 1988 Daytona Journey

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Listen to DW on here, such a Bill France ass kisser, ugh.

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Really well put together. While it isn’t a Fox or NBC NASCAR documentary, at least we got one here just before speedweeks.

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There was a fear that Richmond would go out and kill himself in the race car. (The real question is who knew he had aids- in 1988 aids was a death sentence).

There were rumors that Tim was out of it at the track at 2nd Michigan 87 (I think the engine blew early- another rumor was he blew the engine) and at the Glen. The Glen ran on Monday because of rain and he was fine.

About DW... There was fear that Richmond (or anyone) would drive erratic if on drugs. There is no room for that when death is possibility.

Well done piece.

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Richmond, across the finish line. The checkered flag to win the Firecracker 400. Tim Richmond, about to win the Budweiser at the Glen. He raises his hand. Tim Richmond has won the Budweiser at the Glen. There's a guy, Harry Hyde, that is absolutely proud. Harry, you know at the beginning of the year you said that Tim Richmond was really gonna be the cat to be dealt with, now how do you feel? I think he's great, I think he's great. I couldn't say enough for him. How many single girls up there tonight came to see Tim Richmond? Wow you get that everywhere you go? Not all the time. I'm just so proud of Harry and Tim this year. I don't know how many they going to win. He said he'd win eight you think you gonna win eight? I promised you I'd win six so I got two more to go Well Tim Richmond is just out of the car, getting the cheers from the crowd, Win number seven, they've got a sign for him here. Now they tell me you're gonna change your lifestyle, what are you gonna do now that the season is over? Well right now we're, uh, we're moving out to Hollywood or somewhere out here in LA and take some acting classes and do a little public relations work and kind of rest up out in LA now. --See it next year. ---I'll be here There's a lot of mystery about all this, Tim, from cancer - to flu - aids - to booze. What is the start of this, what got you to this state where you got so sick? I just wouldn't let myself think that I was sick. Last December, the question was would Richmond live into the next hour, The question at this hour is will he win his third in a row. Two weeks ago at Pocono Pennsylvania, he came home first. Then went to Riverside California and did it again. The mischievous flamboyant one. A driver larger-than-life himself is ready to try to make it three. ---Tim Richmond's brush with death last year doesn't seem to have taken a whole lot out of him. Tim you've still got that fire don't you? ---Yeah I'm ready. I, I didn't seem like I've you know lost anything there over the time that I was sick. ---Crowd in up and cheering and Tim Richmond, stretching for three in a row, lengthens that car out a little and pushes that car out in first place. High side, Earnhardt working on him. Incredible racing As we have completed 149 laps... a car smoking in turn number one high against the wall Its Tim Richmond in car number 25. He steered it up there, Bob, because the smoke started to come out the frontstretch. He held it under control, he steered it up there to get out of the way. Although he came back in 87 and recorded two straight victories his health was still not good. He resigned from the Rick Hendrick team amidst rumors of drug abuse. Some say those rumors led to NASCAR's decision to implement a drug testing program for 1988. We're not talking around. NASCAR has said they're gonna have drug testing next year, you're gonna go down and take the drug test and let that be the answer on that issue. ---Exactly. One driver who is not here today but whose name has been in the headlines for the past several days is Tim Richmond President Bill France jr. announced last weekend, with no details, that NASCAR will implement a drug testing program next year. I personally I cannot say that I have ever seen anybody use drugs in our sport. You know you there are all kind of rumors and then you hear all kind of thing, but personally I have never seen it. And there may have been and if there, if there have been, we need to put a stop to it. The topic of conversation in this segment gentlemen is drug testing. Darrell, is there a drug problem in NASCAR so far as you know? As far as I know, no. I'm not aware of a problem. I'm like everybody else, I'm like Steve, I'm like you guys. I hear a lot of things. You know, and and we all have a phrase you know that we use a lot of times "that guy must be on drugs" when somebody does something really crazy or weird. I think we made such, really made light-hearted out of the drug situation in our sport to the point to where, at least as far as I'm concerned, I don't I don't think it's an epidemic and I don't think it's a big problem and I'll tell you right up front I was shocked in New York when Billy France got up and said they were gonna do the drug testing deal because for two years some of us have asked why don't we do it, not why... let's do it, just why don't we? Why are you so adamant against doing it? And they've never wanted to all of a sudden BAM they didn't ask anybody, we're gonna do drug testing. Has there ever been a time when the drivers felt that another competitor had a problem and shouldn't be allowed to compete in that event? Yes there have, this past year a couple of times. I know of some occasions where there were some drivers and some officials that were very alarmed. But again, we don't know what we were we don't know if we were alarmed about drugs or was it something else? It's hard to say, we didn't have, you know, we weren't testing so we didn't know. And it's a deal where you just kind of look at a guy say "I think he's taking drugs" that's that's a tough one to call, you know. In this segment we're going to talk with one of the most colorful and controversial figures in the recent history of motorsports. Flamboyance is his trademark but he has backed it up with great driving He was Rookie of the Year in the 1981 Indy 500 then set his sights on stock car racing. In 1986 he won more stock car races than any other driver but a month later a mystery began at the peak of his success Tim Richmond became ill. Press announcement said it was pneumonia, the rumor mill said otherwise. Tim said I'll be back. And indeed, he came back he made a triumphant return to the sport last May at The Winston. His fans were ecstatic, his driving absolutely flawless. He finished third in the race and he completed that comeback by winning the next two events that he entered. Then he disappeared from the racing scene again, abruptly dropped by his team and apparently out of the stock car game. And I think that has to be the opening question that we ask Tim Richmond today. Are you out of the stock car game? Well, I don't think I don't believe I'm out of the stock car game. And let me clarify one thing, I resigned from Hendrick Motorsports I didn't, as some have written about, I have... I was not fired or released I resigned myself. ---Why? The main thing, why I resigned was I didn't want to have to, I don't want to say let 'em down again, but they were counting on me at the beginning of that season. Because of that pneumonia I had, I had to back off. They had to change horses in the middle of stream, is when they put Benny in the car. And then when I started getting pneumonia the second time I said, you know, I don't, I can't have people counting on me until I know for sure that I'm gonna, you know, continue on and not have to back out and that was that was the main reason in my book why I resigned from Hendrick Motorsports. Tim, do you have a drug problem? I'm sorry but that question has been asked, more than once here, more than once by everybody and I am not answering that question. I am going to let the drug test in Daytona answer it and NASCAR can answer for y'all. And if they don't answer it the right way, then I'll have my little bottle and there will be another answer there. Because I know, I know whether it's dirty or whether it's clean and it is clean. Pneumonia, you've said it all along The rumor mill, as we said, has claimed drugs, AIDS, every imaginable kind of thing that took Tim Richmond out of the racing mainstream. Can you respond to the drug question was it drugs? Well you know I have quit being on the defensive on this subject. What I'm gonna do is is come Daytona time whether I'm driving a race car or not I'm gonna go down there I'm gonna put my money up to try to secure a Winston Cup competitors license. I'm going to I'm gonna have some people there with me to take the tes... not take the test but, how can I say it? If when I put something in one bottle I'm gonna put it in another one I'm gonna take their physical and then we will, you know, we'll know the results. If I have a valid competitors license from NASCAR, we'll know if the if the test was dirty or clean. We're not we're not talking around, NASCAR has said they're gonna have drug testing next year you're gonna go down and take the drug test and let that be the answer on that issue. Exactly But what that also leads us to is the next obvious question: you're gonna try to get back into Winston Cup racing, you have an opportunity to do that you're qualified for the Busch clash because you won a pole last year but you don't have a ride. Well I don't have a ride right now. I've approached by a couple car owners and I can understand why there might be a little hesitation there. A lot of rumors have been around and I think the drug test down there will stop a lot of those rumors and will make it easier for for maybe a car owner to make the decision to put me in his... in his race car and hopefully go win the Busch Clash and maybe the Daytona 500. You told me before we started that you have a racing dream and it has nothing to do with stock cars and nothing to do with Indy cars No, my dream from day one when I started thinking about race cars, was to strap 3,000 horsepower on my butt, and and that means a funny car and that's what I've always wanted to do is go drag racing. ---He's gonna be a drag racer. Is your health such that you can run a full Winston Cup season? The bottom line is I don't... I won't ever come back unless the schedule changes and run a full blown Winston Cup tour for the Winston Cup championship. The Winston Cup championship is very important, but I don't think it's as important as, you know, enjoying myself and the time, the time it takes to do that, I don't, I'm not gonna do that. Various accusations such as drug abuse and AIDS have been leveled against Tim Richmond in the past year, but he continues to battle back from critics Next Tuesday, Richmond will meet with NASCAR's Bill France jr. to discuss Tim's possible return to Winston Cup racing. Step 1 in Tim's comeback was a meeting with NASCAR officials and after that meeting, I asked him about step 2 Well I'd uh, went very well as far as I'm concerned and NASCAR says they they have no problems with me, they welcomed me back. They'd like to see me come back. I want to go back. I have no problems with them and so now we've got that cleared up, now I need to go get a ride so I can go back. You know everybody talked about Tim having some problems with drugs Tim was sick with the flu or the pneumonia or what and it got him down. And they tried to prove drugs on him and you know he's taking drug tests and he's you know, he's been in the hospital and surely if he had been on drugs it would have came out when he went in the hospital. Because everybody in the hospital don't keep secrets. So I don't feel like Tim was using drugs. I think Tim had some other problems and hopefully Tim can get his problems worked out and make a comeback From the Daytona International Speedway CBS Sports is pleased to bring you live, the 1988 Busch Clash Hello everyone. I'm Chris Economaki In auto racing, the driver who was fastest in the qualifying rounds wins the number one starting place: the coveted pole position. And today's rich, 20 lap race is for NASCAR's fastest men of 1987. There's one man who belongs in this lineup that isn't: Tim Richmond. And for more on that story, let's go topside and out of my CBS broadcast colleague Ken Squier. ---Chris, one year ago Tim Richmond qualified for this race and missed it, it was serious pneumonia. This year he is missing the race again after qualifying, it's just as serious. NASCAR make this release yesterday: "Tim Richmond has been suspended indefinitely following a urinalysis test administered under the guidelines of NASCAR substance abuse policy." Richmond tested true positive for a prohibited substance covered under the NASCAR substance program. He was tested and submitted to the test on Thursday. The test was given by Dr. Forrest S. Tennant on Friday and the release was made yesterday. Just a few hours ago, I talked to Tim Richmond here in Daytona and this was his reaction. It came back, he said it was positive for two substances and they had no choice but to suspend me. I mean, I would bet you any amount of money that they would give anything had they not taken this test because now they can't let me on the track until, you know, if I was to go out on the track hurt someone or whatever and it be found out that they were aware of this test prior to going in. Then you know, they would, so I understand their position here I've just maintained that... you've made a mistake, I've made mistakes in my life, meaning that there's been a mistake made on this drug test. Somehow or another I am not guilty of it. I asked the question of one of the officials: had I not requested the test had I not asked for it Would you have requested one of me anyway? And his reply was: "you'll never know will you." This is something that we were, that could happen, you know, we knew that there was a possibility that someday somebody might get caught in one of these situations. It has happened I think we'll just have to wait and see the outcome of Tim's situation I got to say personally that Tim being here and trying to run the race and the things that went on around him being down here, you know, the drug test... it's a good time to have it in effect Now there has been some vicious rumors started on me since my illness with pneumonia. I was trying to put to rest these rumors and to put the competitors minds at ease there was no basis to these rumors. Have you used drugs or prohibited substances in 1988? -No I have not ----At any time while you were Winston Cup driver? ----No I have not. Without Tim Richmond, a dozen big stars lined up for the first big race of stock car speed weeks Monday, NASCAR announced the second test was clean and said Richmond's license was being reinstated. Then on Tuesday, officials revealed that until he passes a physical he can't race and he can't pass the physical unless he submits medical records from his 1987 stay in a Cleveland hospital where he was reportedly treated for pneumonia. Tim Richmond ineligible to drive a Winston Cup car in the wake of two controversial drug tests is discussing his next move with his lawyer, that lawyer is Barry Slotnick, defense attorney for so-called subway vigilante Bernard Goetz Dave, attorney Barry Slotnick says the fact that Tim submitted himself for the drug test is the only issue an adds quote "it's a matter of principle we will not turn over stale records" close quote. NASCAR says: "no records, no racing" so the two sides appear to be in an impasse. You know they tested positive supposedly and they released it and now they let him come back and do it again, you know, I have mixed opinions on that. I think if he's gonna test again, then he ought to have to sit out a month or two months, or something, before he can come back and race. I don't think they ought to test on Monday and then test on Tuesday and test on Wednesday and let's just keep testing until we get it clear till we get a clear sample I don't know I don't agree with that. I'm sure there can be mistakes on tests but, you know, for whatever it is, at least, you know, he had one come up negative so that's good. ----You wouldn't feel circumspect about racing against him then? No, we wouldn't have felt bad about racing against him Sunday either Big race tomorrow at Daytona but the 500 is not what has been making the headlines this time around at Daytona. The controversy surrounding Tim Richmond has put the race into the fine print. Tim Richmond called a news conference there at the Daytona Hilton. The purpose was to clear his name Richmond and his lawyers met the press and charged NASCAR with mounting a smear campaign to sabotage his comeback. There was a concerted effort to defame Mr. Richmond and deprive the fans of the right to see him drive in the Daytona 500 NASCAR finally, after Thursday's qualifying races in the evening, sat down and issued a release and told you folks that Tim Richmond did not have a prohibited illegal drug in his system. But had sudafed and Advil, something that everybody in this room might at one time be guilty of having in their system. I came here to race. I came here to attempt to race, to get a license and to try to clear up a lot of this, that is, rumors that has taken place in last year and the hole seemed to get a lot bigger. Again my number one goal is to clear my family name and I basically very simple I do not, did not, and still do not trust NASCAR The power within is too large for little Timmy Richmond or whoever out there to deal with up to this point. We are making a final last-ditch effort There is a possibility at 3:30 this afternoon you may see Tim in the car doing the final lap to qualify. At that point it will be up to NASCAR. Yeah I'm gonna make attempts to race this season. I don't know if it'll be NASCAR, NHRA, USAC, CART, I really don't know. I've got a lot of people now that's.... they're still in my corner, they'd like to see me perform as a racecar driver in some form or another I would like to do that but I just hope I haven't been burnt too hard. Well joining us now live here in our Purolator Victory Lane at Daytona is NASCAR Director of Public Relations, Chip Williams. Chip, thanks for joining us. ---Sure What is the status of Tim Richmond situation on first, vis-a-vi the Daytona 500? As of right now as of right now we're still looking for the medical records and Dr. Hinebaugh needs some kind of... something to look at to see how the treatment and the recovery of the pneumonia has come. And at that point, if he's satisfied then Tim will be approved a race. Until that happens, it's not going to happen. Now in the press conference yesterday, Tim's lawyer said that NASCAR had agreed that those medical records were no longer an issue, that they would accept the letter from Tim's treating doctor saying that he has not been treated for drug abuse in the past, that he has fit to go race is that not the case? It's not. Our question is not drug abuse. Going back, Wednesday a week ago is when we asked him for the medical records. Dr. Hinebaugh wanted to know where he stood in his recovery and how the treatment has gone for the pneumonia, to see if if Tim was able to run physically able to run 190 miles an hour for 500 miles. On Thursday, of course, things got a little off track because of because of the urinalysis test. By Monday he was back in a situation where his license was valid. We were still sitting there waiting for the medical records and we've been waiting When was the first time that you asked Tim Richmond for his medical records? First time Dr. Hinebaugh asked was Wednesday a week ago with the Wednesday prior to the Busch Clash. On January 26th Bill Jr. uh, Bill France our president and Les Richter vice-president of competition told him that they thought that Dr. Hinebaugh would probably ask for that because he wanted to know how the how the pneumonia was. We should point out here that Dr. Hinebaugh NASCAR's medical director He is the track physician here Chip, why did it take so long for the announcement of the Advil in the Sudafed being the drugs in question? We didn't want to say anything until we knew exactly what the drug was, exactly what the drug was. We knew there was a prohibited substance in there, so there was a violation of the substance abuse policy. However we didn't know exactly what it was and until we could pinpoint it, we weren't going to release it publicly. Briefly, we've only got a short time, is NASCAR trying to keep Tim Richmond out of stock car racing? Not at all. From what I could see Tim Richmond is trying to keep Tim Richmond out of stock car racing. Good afternoon everyone from Daytona Beach, Florida. Today 42 drivers will go after more than one and a half million dollars in the Daytona 500. One driver who is not here today but whose name has been in the headlines for the past several days is Tim Richmond. Why are they picking on me, poor little old me? I really don't know why they are. I don't know... I don't know. But they've picked hard enough to where I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna bite back Gentlemen, start your engines! The green is unfurled, we're underway. Jockeying for position, Bobby Allison going low in the Miller High Life car he's got second spot. There's a smoker on the back straightaway, that's the Roush car that new Ford, number six Mark Martin out of Arkansas the driver for Jack Roush and the engine is expiring. Hitting the wall, Connie Sailor, number 99. The car slides to the outside wall. We got crash in turn four again a car spinning slithering, slamming into the wall and it looks like Cale Yarborough Trouble in turn number four! Richard Petty's car goes airborne, end over end. There's two or three other cars into it. Petty has hit the wall very hard. He gets hit again as the car came to rest at the entrance to pit road. Back they go and look at this tremendous assault. And here goes Darrell Waltrip three wide for the lead. One last time for Davey Allison but he has to tuck back in line just behind his dad who was a twice winner of the Daytona 500. Bobby Allison wins it for the third time in his career. Right behind him was Davey Allison holding on. To a tight third place battle was Phil Parsons with Terry Labonte and Neil Bonnett. What a finish as the Alabama gang Bobby and Davey Allison take positions one and two. It was quite a finish. Now for the latest on Tim Richmond his attorney Barry Slotnick says they will take a couple of weeks to evaluate their situation before making another attempt for Tim to get back into racing. NASCAR says they still need to be satisfied as far as Richmond's medical records are concerned from his illness in 1987. We haven't heard the last of that story yet. When Tim and his lawyers failed to provide medical records from that stay in the Cleveland Clinic, NASCAR again denied the license. Richmond promptly filed suit against the sanctioning body, the matter was settled out of court earlier this year but the terms were never made public One of the most colorful drivers in all of auto racing is dead at the age of 34 Ugly rumors of drug abuse and AIDS will taint his accomplishments until the exact cause of death is revealed Dave Despain and Bob Varsha with Tim Richmond who started in Indy cars. Actually started in super modifieds, but made a big impression in Indy cars and then gave up those cars to go stock car racing. How come well? I'll tell you, the nickname that I acquired when I first went to Indianapolis was Captain Quick and then it soon became Captain Crunch. And to be honest with you, I like the way my feet were pointing (laughing)
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Length: 29min 11sec (1751 seconds)
Published: Wed Feb 07 2018
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