The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 376 | We're Not The Same

[Music] told me to think twice gotta think twice when he anderson pop yeah same thing we all think that guys like hot sauce man just put them on everything whatever meal you have just that guy is gonna make something better it don't matter potato salad i think that's what he thinks okay microphone check one two what is this it's the jbp okay it's back to business i thought you wanted a single oh no when a song is on microphone check one two what is this the jbp boys back to business welcome to episode 376 of the joe budden podcast i'm your humble gracious grateful and highly favorite host joe budden here with a few of my nearest and dearest brother maul is here with us today parks and records here catch requiem in the parks right uh so what's your name again what's your nickname said something oh sunset set it on son rory rory is here paparazzi is over here silver to god the myth the legend is here erickson is here man we got to add some [ __ ] to eric's name man when silva's here yeah sure he can't say all that [ __ ] about silva and nothing erickson's a legend too that's the fact yeah the myth is the myths oh gladys knight in the midst corey's here uh don cheadle is here hey don cheater you know the vibe cheetahs matter it's not a body of water in sight i'm in the streets you're going up the street to the public pool look what spotify do you think i'm about to go play in a hydrant the hydrant is on up there you ain't see it they spraying cars he's just flooding the block with content that's all oh my god and last certainly not least uh alex the great is over there gentlemen how's everybody feeling how y'all doing oh look at maul with the pinched shirt i ain't even see it the pimp pence peace yo if paul created the rock nation pence shirt that's some funny [ __ ] and shirt but the airplane with the chain drip makes it an end it does look a little like yeah does it it's peace it means peace peace for pence i mean no not not our start y'all how you doing how are you doing how's everybody doing how you doing everybody man some real important stuff to get into today including not that yeah no not that at all i don't want to waste anybody's time oh man trump was getting his [ __ ] off he has lies he said they building 10 miles of wall a day and they haven't trouble getting this [ __ ] over in front of the world it just me saying whatever y'all don't [ __ ] with trumpet he know he's sick we know that 10 miles of wall a day no you're not that [ __ ] is sick man i don't know how y'all don't enjoy that [ __ ] the way i do that that's some funny [ __ ] that's the president talking like that man that's that's the scary part oh my god this country is [ __ ] crazy oh man that's great how y'all doing man y'all good man all right holy [ __ ] that's fine what's up man [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah no no phone phone was a little busy the last two days new york yeah [ __ ] called me like yo you need something we're not broke yeah yeah it was like yo you good didn't comprehend what you said but it's okay a lot of uh listener comprehensions yeah yeah yeah it was crazy a little off and just a lot of people offering [ __ ] like yo my my dad runs like a telephone company like we go through the podcast like if y'all want i don't know what the price is now cousin got a studio fan you know you guys should have got a lawyer right talk about that what are you talking about wait nothing happened let me hit the drop this is good this is good [Laughter] yo if you don't if you're not subscribed on youtube i advise you to do it now you already know the vibe six episodes left and we getting the [ __ ] out of here didn't check a cult it's going to be quick [Laughter] on being here long running off the security deposit yeah yeah yeah yeah i bought a book bag i'm not waiting on the luggage trust me i'm getting i'm getting far the [ __ ] away from here my uber was called yeah yeah follow me on everything but here now yeah yeah they might get hacked for the information uh but no you all were saying mike you all were saying the phone's been ringing yeah a lot of people out there have have got have dusted off their court clothes everybody's an attorney now yeah of course everybody has some keen and fine advice to offer yeah we are we are fine we are thank god all the people that broke down meg the stallion's contract came back right to break ours down to let us know like yo why didn't like you should get a lawyer that's like one-on-one [ __ ] i was like nah i was you know four of us just walked into spotify word we said okay yeah great yeah it's crazy man but you know that's part of it that's that was expected i knew i knew people were going to take that their own way and have their own interpretation of what happened what's going on what we're dealing with and everything is okay we're in a great position actually everything is fine yeah yeah i saw you uh i saw you replying a few people out there like what are people laughing at what are people hating about what are they it's just you know when we start we're starting here y'all gonna leave me to iso no no no it's not it's not that it's i mean we we all said we didn't have no uh pick up off the last break we didn't have we don't know what we do we freestyling today this is this is a freestyle but um yeah it's just it was just interesting to see uh certain people the things they had to say and and uh certain reactions same by name yeah it was you get to a point man where you just because one thing i said about this pandemic was it gave us a lot of time like for me personally gave me a lot of time to pay attention to [ __ ] i normally wouldn't pay attention to that i don't really care about a lot of [ __ ] that people would be saying but um you start really just looking around at certain things a certain people will always show you exactly how they feel and what they think about you yeah always in themselves yeah like and this it was just interesting to see certain people the things they had to say and um the things that they was doing and you start to realize that you know people everybody is is fighting for something it's like competition you know everybody you know they'll say oh yeah good job you're killing it just in the third but secretly [ __ ] don't want you to win or they're not fighting at all they're just on the sidelines yeah like people people they're in the cheap seats watching the game yeah but they don't it's just [ __ ] up because for me when i sit here i don't have no ill intent no ill feelings towards anybody i don't i don't sit here trying to [ __ ] on nobody i know joe kills me about that because he knows me he knows how i feel about a lot of [ __ ] but i'm careful to say i don't want to say it publicly right when these mics come off i you know i give it y'all know me yeah but i'm careful that because i understand that words have power and people will hear things and they take it a certain way and they think that you're this type of person and i'm not like i'm not that guy right like even when the whole gilly should happen gilly called and we got in it was like the energy was negative at first and i tried to match that i'm not gonna say what was said but i tried to match that negative energy and then i had to stop i'm like but this ain't me like i don't have no negative energy no negative feelings towards anybody or so i had to stop myself and i'm like i really want y'all to win like we want them to win like and i think that we might be alone in that like that's what i feel like the last 48 i feel like the [ __ ] that we want for [ __ ] and we want for this uh this podcast in the world and this platform to grow i don't think [ __ ] want that for us i really don't i think because people get us some people do some people do but i feel like the majority of people feel like okay they they recognize what we've done right and they recognize what we're trying to do and some people have followed behind that and tried to build their own thing which is we think is dope because i feel like the more people that's doing it it's like okay this is a thing that people are trying to do so businesses corporations will have to pay attention to it and some people are great at it right just like the culture of hip-hop how it started it was it started out as a party right now it's the biggest culture on the planet right so if we are able to try to get something going and build something and more people jump on it that means this becomes a real thing now so when we say yeah nah are we happy for them we mean that [ __ ] us we mean that because we pay attention to ourselves we're not really focusing on what other people are doing people can't really do what we do because of the relationships the energy the chemistry that we have right so yesterday and just seeing [ __ ] that people were saying i'm like yo [ __ ] really don't want [ __ ] to win out here bro yeah you can't let the voice of a few uh no it didn't affect me like it didn't affect me to a point where i was like sad or no doubt but you just start to really look at [ __ ] and be like okay so i'm i'm really the minority or some of the minority witness like yo when i say yo congrats i'm happy for you like y'all keep killing that [ __ ] keep doing a lot of [ __ ] say it but they don't mean that [ __ ] can i ask you a question yeah is that surprising for you um it's only surprising to me joe only because i know who i am i'm a like when i say i'm real i'm real i'm not always right but i'm always real like i don't ever say [ __ ] with the intent to [ __ ] on nobody or to disrespect anybody i'm just honest i'm real and i get caught up in thinking that a lot of people are like that and that they move like that and they think like that because that's how i'm designed so you start to feel like well damn i'm real i'm honest like why can't you be real and honest and everybody is not like that so when certain things happen you get a glimpse of that [ __ ] like oh [ __ ] you're so like no i can't i can't expect that i like i like where you're taking us right now go everywhere well yeah i saw earlier this year with certain things that happened there's always people that have been waiting on the sidelines to say [ __ ] about you but they couldn't say it while you were succeeding so they try to wait for some little time where it looks negative yeah to take their time to take their shot right like that's always gonna happen because you look corny when you just hating on someone succeeding right let one little negative perceived negative thing happen which is going to happen to every single person no matter what that's when everyone comes out finally say how they really feel but it's just funny like i i laughed at a lot of this [ __ ] but then you really start to sit back and think like damn man like you really feel like you're fighting a losing battle we're going to get into all of what you're saying okay i'll shut up let me shut the [ __ ] up yeah yeah i want to find out i can't let the 10 people out of the 100 to have something negative to say ever oh no make me feel like our fans our fan base couldn't have been more supportive and i love them yeah for the most part and uh other people in the music or entertainment industry we're also very supportive so you know there's going to be a couple people that got something to say no absolutely it's just it just you're you're liked maul joe and myself are disliked i don't know how anybody just likes me i i really don't but okay but i don't think that's true anyway no man shout out to the people that that met us with so much support yes they said it was we're going yeah we appreciate you guys you're the reason why we feel so comfortable leaving yeah because we know our fan base and we know the value value of y'all mm-hmm like it was just interesting because i you know we know why the business wasn't able to get met because we feel like you know joe said something a few weeks ago like if the top guy accepts this the market is now capped at that yeah because now when you negotiating you're not as big as that they're gonna be like well they the the top dog only got that would you think you so i thought that people would look at it like damn they did this but this was a dope move because now that allows everything else to grow and people to have the courage to be like nah i'm not taking that right but then when you look at people like laughing and ah you [ __ ] it's like y'all missed it that's not what this is like this is for a bigger thing right and it's for you right that's and that's the part to me that was like i think people missed that play like this is not just about us this is about the playing field this is about the rest of the people coming behind i also like the least is about the people just kind of neglecting the fact that maybe we have a plan right you know what i'm saying like exactly like we're just like yeah yeah and that's just like man i don't you know but you you start to the moment people get that window of opportunity to be like haha right you [ __ ] ain't [ __ ] right y'all [ __ ] up and it's like nah fan that's not what this is like we all right trust me so it was just an interesting 48 hours and i saw it even specifically with joe i saw them bring up complex then spotify and saying oh everything over with y'all maybe y'all are the problem not these companies and i said well then you must be new here yeah yeah you must be very new no most people just don't have the balls to leave these huge corporate companies that are going to offer them a safety net in security and take their paycheck because it's more money than they've ever seen so no we have never been the problem right these companies have shown that they're the problem said they don't care that they're the problem we're not changing anything [ __ ] y'all right so the greener people that are new here just relax for a second or and take a look around i agree before it happens to you right more importantly yeah rory getting his greener bag he's sometimes you got to get in your greener break when he get mad he turned green irish hulk don't say i think that's a drink he's irish i think so is it like hypnotic and jameson and jameson and hypno oh my god we used to just be doing whatever hypno henny was a thing it was and it was disgusting but not terrible yeah it was really bad it was blackout juice for sure i'm just i'm still mad enjoy left i know what it's like still out there i'll take you over there and cream [Music] mad dog 2020. no casting creams little bailey's in a hot chocolate bailey's huh blackout bailey's blacking out on bailey's is disgusting blacking out is hilarious [ __ ] funny they call it blacking out and it's a white boy thing they started we have to reconceptualize a lot of things yeah we do we do let's start with bailey's listen great white shark killer whale think about it um shout out to shout out to our first and last time listeners shout out to all of the new listeners that may be here at the moment uh for the tea for the techy tea the tech tea the right yeah it was just interesting to see how how many people were like oh my god this was the greatest episode ever i'm like i feel like we have some better ones but okay okay i'll take it um i have a really bad habit sometimes or a lot of times of speaking to people as if they understand what i'm saying uh and i went home and i listened to that podcast as i do most of these podcasts and it happened it happened again when i was attempting to say that i come from music i come from music i come from music i said it about three or four times i realized that a lot of people that are unfamiliar with music and the music business even though you may be listening to this podcast which started as a music podcast y'all may have no idea what that means i i i said ra i've been robbed and i've been scammed but that's not really all that it means it's it's deeper than that it means i've sacrificed differently it means that i have gained and lost quickly means i've had some years where i all the money i made for the year came in a month and you just had to figure out how how things were going to go feast and famine is the name of this business what i mean by that is also since my botox i maybe don't look 40. no you still do even here in the forehead it's right there she got wait my webs are there that's what they call them all they got nowhere you're beautiful no no i'm not gay no no no no no no no no [Music] [Laughter] what i'm saying is since my botox i probably don't look this old but when i say i come from music i'm talking about when you had to go inside of a store and purchase an album i'm talking about when the budgets and how things were allocated were a tad bit different there was no streaming there was no streaming to account for and that's important to note because whatever it was is just what it was the labels were beefing with napster they were having this fight way back when because of how valuable a stream became and then that just dominated music for me i think i've been pretty clear and consistent in some of my just thoughts which is maybe i started this podcast 200 episodes or 300 epic episodes ago saying well what is a stream right and what is it worth remember we at least had maybe 100 episodes where it was just a joke that in music when there were no streams and we didn't own the rights to the music when this new when this new medium was invented they owned all the rights i should have been able to take pump it up and pump it up and pump it up yeah but instead that's not what happened instead my my first time experience as a 21 year old was being put in video games without being compensated google the video game business i don't have time to explain it to you it's lucrative it's lucrative and part of the music business now yes absolutely significantly so i'm just built a little different uh also in music unless you're the top five percent you are playing the long game and this is when music was deemed valuable well it means huh it is again but yeah can for who we'll get to that later true um damn man what's that you're saying uh coming from the music business oh it means i'm prepared for the long game i'm not short-sighted in this and don't get it confused all the ways that we consume entertainment today is a stream so i want to expand on a few things from a podcast ago a lot of digital attorneys out there always a lot of living room lawyers out there and a lot of financial advisors monday morning quarterbacks i think i've been pretty clear that through this entire journey it has never been about a dollar amount and even if you missed some of that this is joe joe has never done anything for a dollar amount it's that pride that i spoke to you all about about me having this watch and wearing this watch because i'm proud of how hard i had to work to get the watch value and dollars are different yeah carry on dan what was i saying it's pride in the watch yeah it was over about a dollar what i was saying oh it was never about a dollar never about a dollar never about a dollar this was never about a dollar amount be clear we took this deal that so many of you are speaking about for analytics which we consciously talked about prior to signing the deal we talked y'all through it we are only here for information you guys how can we preach all of this black is king our cultures number one so forth and so on if we don't know the true value of what we're so freely giving away and the only way to know the true value of something you guys is to go inside the house go go go peel the curtain back see where see how they set the living room up living room up where's the couch where'd they put the coffee table how's the draping in here yeah gotta look at the fixtures we don't know because we're dealing with dsp's techie people consumer facing trick running this is an advanced level of scamming but it's not scamming if you understand what's going on that was the mistake we made in music or i made in music it was entering a game without knowing that the game you're playing and on top of that the people that are profiting from it are creating the value of what it is if that makes any sense it does the people that are profiting off the dsps are the ones creating the value of what you're paying for you need to go inside and see what the [ __ ] that means all right yeah you have to go inside the house we took the deal to get information shortly after information stopped and some of the people who were in place to help us proceed were removed throughout the two years of this term i have been introduced to somebody different every three months do you know why i ask questions i'm inquisitive i'm not here for money yes you've seen joe do this at every company because there's standard practices at every company and you have to go inside the company to find out the inner workings of said company i had to go in depth jam to say whoa wait a minute we're gonna keep doing that i'm out of here [ __ ] am i here for you're not this is not in my best interest my first single that i my first hit that i wrote they put on a fast and a furious soundtrack sold 400 000 in a week my debut came out a week later you have to know where people's interests are it's important yeah i got out of there back to the stream and stuff i know a lot of y'all are confused and i'mma lose a lot of y'all now but you're confused because it was never meant for us to know you're confused because it's not designed for us to know this goes back way before joe was born you let your little smartphones trick you you distracted if you're not seeing this clearly insert now streaming podcasting no you cannot redline this you cannot redline us white out i'm coming back that's a bomb coming back there's a lot of uninformed people talking and i'm not mad at none of them i'm not mad at i'm not angry i'm not upset you don't know you're not supposed to know like maul said fortunately enough this is a selfless fight that we fighting so it's gonna help everybody it's gonna affect everybody let's address some of this stuff i see a whole lot of hmm well he want this cause rogan got that well he want this cause bill simmons got that no and if you think that way then what is your understanding of america do me a favor joe don't base his value by white people white people don't determine my worth what america do you think we in you are poorly mistaken if you think the battles that joe rogan fights and the battles that i fight are the same fight similar fights no we got this this is going to be a master class an oppression and how some of my people voices that i deem to be pretty powerful in our community argue for it just tell me you don't know you don't understand ask me some questions it's unfathomable pardon me that a stream to us can be worth what it is but who's dictating value are you letting them dictate value or are you dictating value when i put it on them you know what they told me they said hey you've planted it's not growing no that's not true i've realized what's happening here and while y'all are walking around like y'all have the biggest dick in town y'all are 10 of this market it's me doing you the favor we've been conditioned to think a different way the labels used to make us think we needed them we don't it took us years to figure that out no spotify no any of these other companies you cannot come and talk to me like you have the biggest dick in the room i'm sorry because some of the stuff i think like master p and ho said in front of this is unfathomable it's great to not know it's sometimes it's great to be ignorant if a three-minute song i said this a million times here if a three-minute song is worth a then what the [ __ ] is a three-hour podcast worth take me to the office yeah show me i don't have to say show me you know why they did it's a billion dollar industry these exclusive deals that some of y'all out here taking taking they weren't available and they are now because the capital is there that's awesome there's a lot of people out there saying well jesus man these guys got to hire an attorney [Laughter] they got to get a lawyer if you are saying that then you don't understand you don't understand there were some things etched in stone contractually the answers to the the question changed when when when when we got the answers is what i'm saying if there are benchmarks in your contract i'm talking to y'all out there that don't know your value if there are benchmarks in your contract and you hit it who the [ __ ] are we to let the dsps now start changing what the stats what the stats are you telling me about rogan and this is rogan's beef with youtube hey i'm not getting true stats i have to go somewhere you telling me about rogan as if he's not me what do you think happens if joe rogan goes in there making 100 million a year and finds out he's making him 900 billion a year do you think he's going away quietly and i think he got a lawyer i think so some of the things when i said that i helped design this contract what i was attempting to say was i was navigating people through how this can work it's the reason today that spotify is allowing rogan to leave his properties on all of these other places and accumulate audience so you could bring them back so we could pillage them right they are they know when you take a [ __ ] and then they advertise 90 different toilet tissues to you they know your favorite song they're gonna sit after that song goes off 900 songs similar is going to come up on instagram we'd be joking around hey a girl i like when i click on her [ __ ] 90 other girls pop up just like her know what it does it keeps me on the [ __ ] property and that's the value of podcasting what other platform keeps a person on their site for 70 plus minutes sitting there listening right what other genre could do that besides podcasting because people don't understand mass media and boy boy did i get a kick out of this i got to be honest with you you guys and i'll walk you through it but boy did i get a kick out of the the spin cycle for media what you mean i mean joe comes out says whatever he says it affects whoever it affects the company whoever's at the in the boardroom the 14 people that act as the senate that are never going to accept any of your proposals of course yeah they hear that they jump ahead of it they jump right ahead of it start sending memos out this guy's crazy this guy's nuts we offer them talk jesus mary jesus mary and joseph i heard my my good buddy old pal the magneto the magneto to my professor x i heard charlemagne go on a little rant and i was disappointed because all i hear when any of my peers talk is how much they don't know see i'm never speaking from ego i have one but in matters of business you have to remove it definitely because you want to make a sound decision ego would have me reacting to all of this [ __ ] y'all out there saying but i don't because i know it's from ignorance i know you don't know and i know it's my job to tell you i know that i have done that since the beginning of my career when found something out came back and told the people charlemagne let me help you i know that you have this healthy obsession with me i know that you think we are competing it you might also think that we're fighting the same fight you would be sadly mistaken in all three of those this goes back to the breakfast club interview with dame dash and he tried to tell y'all but it went how it went when you're trying to explain something to people who just cannot imagine that yeah charlemagne you're not gonna get it because i own this my most valuable my most powerful my most accomplished asset i own it ownership you see all these black people running around preaching ownership ownership ownership there's a reason for it you my friend work for iheart and have for 10 years i came in here one day and said yo stephen a smith got 10 million a year i see him on everything he's doing the finals sportscenter he's interviewing athletes he's [ __ ] talking to max he's talking to this person he's got a radio show he's doing everything in the world 10 million well yeah when you don't own some [ __ ] yeah we got that part but let's zero in on what it means charlemagne you broken and taught you broke an entire radio station number one morning drive ten years in a row i asked him when i spoke to him do you think you're paid properly for the work that you've done how much y'all make up there you ain't got to answer it you don't have to answer it i know y'all know go to sleep and think about it but 10 years at number one breaking a radio station breaking a network because it's iheart right they also have a podcast division see charlemagne for me joe would never do that because it signifies conflict of interest whoa the radio has a podcast department no i'm out of here i'm out of here i only thought the spotify [ __ ] would make sense because they were fighting with the labels let's get them some money and see what they do with it we sainted it now we know and i'm coming back to tell people like we've done historically we've this has always been who we have been i see people saying there go joe burning the bridge again there's oppression on the bridge years ago i was like yo why can't want to be in the nfl of the nfl as well they would have to make changes first and that's what it he ain't in there ain't ain't trying to be in he's still trying to affect change on the outside i cannot have somebody with a voice as powerful as you just be misinformed on [ __ ] ten years y'all number one how are you paid i'm listening to your [ __ ] ads we're not having the same fight behind the scenes it looks the same but it's not the same don't be fooled by the cross streets i'm walking this way you started your youtube page in 2019 of august i'm behind the scenes saying no you cannot insert sai into 400 episodes of bat catalog you cannot ruin user experience this way know why cause it's [ __ ] mine and since you don't understand that charlemagne let me paint a different example for you let me come to your house every day and paint over 400 of your favorite sneakers a different paint every day would you let me you you no of course you wouldn't let me [ __ ] do that it's silliness i'm on the phone with charlemagne listening to my brother fight for oppression it don't make sense and he don't even unders he don't even see it still it bothers me when i have to waste time to turn around and explain some [ __ ] to somebody that's right but fine let's do it charlemagne they ushered your ass right out of the hbo doors why according to you for something you didn't do that's oppression that's what happens when you don't have your own we're not fighting the same fight at all your mtv2 show where is it it's gone know why it's gone because white people said it should be gone white people didn't see the value in your amazing show charlemagne that you were pulling creators up from twitter giving them a look letting them eat it was a good show it don't matter if it's good rory if we don't if we don't have the power to keep it here i know the point is the exact point you're making am i off no no no no get your own 100 you can't and that's why a lot of you listen there's a lot of these racist [ __ ] that play both sides they know the values with the blacks but they won't share with us they're getting cool with the races behind the scenes it's a lot of us that say we want to emulate the hoves and the puffs and is that byron allen yeah the byron allen's the it's a million names i could pull out right now but you the masterpiece the kanye's all of the people that had to change status quo to come back and show us how to do it but they have to speak in codes just like they [ __ ] had to do in the slave days i watched the yusef hawkins doc the other day came in here and talked about it nobody know what it instantly brought me to when chub rock put out treat him right i was dancing my ass off never forget you sap hawkins and when you walk in you don't just stutter black on black remember that it's simple i was a kid right my brother who i did not know was coming to talk to me public enemy fight the power marvin gaye what's going on sam cook a change going to come this is not new every decade is us speaking through our mediums alerting our people as to what is going on i cannot have someone as powerful as you be as ignorant as you [ __ ] sound you too important your voice too loud imagine if it was another [ __ ] moving like me and you doing that over at iheart imagine what happens shout out to everybody choosing to do it whatever way they see best fit i'm not angry at you my issue comes when you use your very powerful voice to [ __ ] on something that you just will never understand like dame sat there and said to you yo if you're not funding your [ __ ] we're not having the same talk i'm funding this all right charlemagne you've been number one 10 years at iheart [ __ ] mass media conglomerate and you're just talking your network but you're not paying for nothing so what splits are you about to get that's what spotify said to me charlamagne they said hey we want to participate in something that we're not building and i said no i've never asked for anything i've never asked for anything there's been no negotiation because there's nothing negotiated i'm looking at how you treat people what do we what what is there to discuss i came here for information this entire time you've been giving me information you approached me eight months into the joint hey here's a new deal i want to [ __ ] you in we said no they come back they come back in december uh oh are they mad about it no bonus cool the bonus is written in the contract it's written there hey if you hit this you get this guess what if the people making the rules change the goal post you don't get it charlemagne you'll never know that you value a breakfast club when you're in a [ __ ] multimedia conglomerate and nature's going to cross-collateral cross-collateralize everything in the universe you never see a penny y'all just reading ads shut up stop interrupting me i'm busy doing real [ __ ] that's gonna affect you and when i say to you hey don't worry about it i'm gonna show you you just get defensive what you mean what do you mean you're gonna show me i got a network too i know what you're doing i know what's coming i think you're stupid i think i think your team don't know what's huh we the two kings i'm not talking about rogan he white he don't know the fight you know the fight they're telling me about a white dude somewhere in a black king conversation do not be conditioned that way december come i'm i'm trying to get you to see never make some white person nine figures so they can come and offer you jewelry part me that's why i have same watch use jewelry because i don't care use jewelry [Laughter] they in a panic uh charlemagne they don't know how to deal they don't know how to deal with us when we don't want no money they just kept offering [ __ ] our negotiation period was june 1 to the end of june silence it's nothing whatever they showed me it was in july [ __ ] what you showing me no no no no i don't know don't need the money don't need you don't nugget mall show you're not getting you're not getting nothing no i just think that what you did i watched it i was here to watch they telling me they're telling me they're telling me that our business is bad well i'll try to explain this to you in 10 minutes the mistake that was made in music with the streaming with inventing a new way to put [ __ ] out that you don't participate in was not gonna happen in podcasting why do you think they aired that [ __ ] the other day they shouldn't hear that that was hard that was craziness my [ __ ] says you can't edit are creative that's important all of the [ __ ] is in the creative we gonna create it they want to participate you can't edit this that's one two the most important one is hey any ad put on this podcast has to be ran by who give it to me you guessed it hey some of y'all don't know i say you guessed it when i'm not even giving you a chance to guess it you'll never guess it so i'm telling you i'm just giving you the credit it's like a courtesy you guessed it they gotta be ran by me no you can't come bring me boost mobile over however many episodes and no you can't do that last podcast when i said spotify never had a clear intention of that because let me tell you uh creators out there had his goals all of the companies will sell you on their uh ad sales team oh my god they will make them sound like jesus best in the business you're not gonna hit none of them [ __ ] benchmarks are you kidding me [ __ ] [Laughter] charlemagne it was no way for us to know without going in the building that we're not paying attention to any one individual podcast we are taking all of the numbers and we are presenting them and we're that's what we're selling i don't care about you as your one entity no matter how great your numbers are this is a whole and we will distribute this as we see fit charlemagne no that's not in the contract because it's their business they don't have to tell you how they do their business charlemagne i don't expect you to know that because you came to new york as a grown-ass [ __ ] and i got a deal at 20. it's a predatory business it's not for you to know i looked all of y'all in the eye when revolt came to breakfast club for a reason and said hey did y'all resign sharing is caring hey problem problem shared is problem solved yeah that's a fact envy looked me in my eyes and said i have a family i took the long term i'm so i'm up i'm up i'm up i'm up i don't know what they're doing i'm up guess what and be my brother king i understand because that's what we've been doing so we conditioned to do that's what we do we gotta take care of ours you heard what scotty pippin said on the fam i got 29 siblings i know i'm being robbed i have to take it that's the part we don't ever really talk about here when creators start talking about their bad deals got that but what position was you in because from my seat all i'm doing is watching creators take money responsibilities what don't you understand here but cool you don't have to understand let me give it to you a few months back on this podcast i expressed dog whistling to my people again hey y'all picture this oh wait before i get into that i'm trying to explain to to charlemagne what it is because if you can't see it if you think you know that's when they get you my brother my fellow king i went down the street and i'm coming back here to tell you there's oppression down there now you could take the bag and deal with it but it exists i'm trying to explain it to him so because maybe you don't get it it's beyond our wildest dreams charlemagne picture this iron man drops twice a week for the next two years what would happen hmm i ain't gonna answer it hey don't worry about don't worry about it dawn ostroff you come from tv right senior level executive staff you come from television longest showing television is and yeah grey's anatomy [ __ ] this is us 24 episodes rest in peace jazz fly we love you always 24 episodes in a television season dawn ostroff if one show was number one over eight seasons because that's the equivalent of what is happening here though it's not a television show tell me what would happen there's no conversation to have when you start all the way over there and i start all the way over here news flash for you people that are laughing for you people that don't get it they sent the eight-figure offer and we said hey act like that don't exist start over reset do we're not even acknowledging that because i have a relationship with y'all and we've been here two years and you should do the right thing and so forth and so on just start over i never tried to negotiate i asked five simple questions and when i started hearing uh uh well uh uh bye buy hey y'all 4 4 y'all take 80 and we'll take 20 because of fees well what are the fees oh returns uh staff to deal with the returns well wait a second god damn it i dealt with there's a complex with rich antonella you're telling me that i'm i'm i payroll the staff or would you have to pay roll the staff anyway yeah i'm confused right i got to tell my people i got to tell my people because i didn't know how it worked all i kept saying was the soul is missing the soul is going the soul is gone what i was saying is oh [ __ ] it's getting whitewashed i don't know if y'all see what they're doing out there rogan is the man he don't count they wouldn't got gimlet and in an attempt to mass produce what do you need when you're attempting to mass produce you need the technology to do it straight from that they went to parkas straight from that they went to [ __ ] wherever they went another white person and i got to deal with in march in march my brother and fellow king van lathan fresh from being the tokenized black voice at tmz giving me a call one wednesday night while i'm with my son saying yo man how are things over at spotify then why oh because i just signed a huge i just signed a huge something over there me and bill simmons i'm under bill simmons and if you wouldn't if [ __ ] wouldn't have been right over there no i wouldn't have did that i wouldn't came over there excuse me see sometimes you talking to people who just don't know he don't know that was insulting he don't know that was offensive he's not reading the room then you're telling me you left white company to come jump up under another white man when there are black men in position to pay you probably more than him that bothers me it bothers me that i'm steady fighting for proper value for [ __ ] that's afraid to fight for the value for their [ __ ] self don't interrupt my mission i got kids y'all got kids michelle obama has a podcast on spotify what does it say to you because i'll tell you what it says to me god damn you got to be the [ __ ] president to get a deal [Music] just a fact as a black person over here if the soul is gone and you're a white-washed company now newsflash you are purposely and publicly teetering to republican suburbia because as i've said months ago here there's a business in that definitely and people play off it and the business in that would be we don't share in stock we don't share in stock they came to us and offered us a rolex instead of even four thousand dollars of stock they could have came away with this super cheap vested stock less everybody be protected used watches who the [ __ ] do you think i am there's some of your podcasters out there laughing saying ha ha hey you don't know what's to come b this is not b for attention i was talking to corey earlier when you from the mud you know beef intention i've had guns drawn in my face click multiple times i've been in a room with people that if you say the wrong thing this could get turned up it's a blessing these conversations that we're having what part of that did y'all miss last podcast when i said yo everything worked everything worked i got the answer i i i pit them in a situation where one of two things is going to happen a we're going to participate in the ad revenue like all of our contracts say and buy projections because there's projections for everything in year one we weigh past 10 million in ads in year one i know because i'm developing my own assets outside of here and building that i smarten up open the market up there's plenty of great people to talk to out there some of them are creative the part that people are missing out there is hey i missed all of this racial tension stuff that's going on guess what you need you only need one person to get it um why the [ __ ] are we running around just pandering to people you need one person to understand what you're doing to be able to do it properly they're using us is the point they're using us is the point or attempting to they're using us is the point they're appealing to these republican [ __ ] i mean think about it i i said to y'all hey retired rapper his two friends podcast pitch it tell me how that goes tell me if they pick it up no you guys they don't pick it up you know what they do pick up black rapper hip-hop i'm not speaking for me back to mall point i'm speaking for us i've never left the people i'm ingratiated with the people because the people have the ideas it's us everything i did back in the day is valuable now talking to fans they call it engagement they're tracking it i was in the chat rooms yeah i was there you name it some of you [ __ ] know me i was asking for the porn passwords that's me [ __ ] send that vanessa blue link the [ __ ] is y'all talking about y'all on only fans now shout out to all y'all out there but that was me back there always trailblazing always setting off something first so everybody can reap the benefits of it they're not looking at us as people y'all they're looking at us as just numbers data they appeal to whoever they want to appeal to that goes to their little wall street buddies we affect wall street us it's not the other way around wall street is reacting to what is happening presently the creators are not looking at presently ever and the only thing worse than a girl with your phone while you're asleep is a curious creative i know your girl your girl might take that one no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no you let it let a creative get curious hey hey hey what that dude wait a minute no no hold up buddy that made how much no no get somebody on the phone get somebody on the phone they're just checking boxes is what i'm saying uh case in point for the people who may not understand it uh spotify makes the announcement yesterday in the midst of the stock dropping two percent that they signed a deal with ricky thompson and denzel dion best friends and popular fashion and lifestyle influencers for an exclusive weekly podcast series i'm familiar with ricky thompson not so much denzel dion and i really really like ricky thompson and what he does and how he delivers his [ __ ] i've been watching him for a while he's awesome and i'm really happy that they did questions they feel is best for them yeah congrats to you guys because i've spent two years here i'm aware that it's not about ricky thompson and denzel dion unfortunately and how excellent they are and how talented i think uh he is again i'm not familiar with denzel so much mm-hmm you know what this headline is gonna is gonna look like um i got an idea what it's gonna look like two black proud gay boys two black proud boys ricky thompson look at that this guy's scanning this his skin is glistening off of this little picture this is these are our people but they will speak for the gays guess what that looks like when it hits wall street and then guess what happens when that hits wall street who buys into that oh that kick that community like our community did right so we're just going to run around and pillage the different communities but not really let you participate in anything right and the people that really buy in and cash out aren't from that community correct specifically in wall street i'm trying like maul said man i'm trying to change the rules for some of the people to come after me um netflix is available everywhere that's the fact know why cause they probably wouldn't reach the masses if they were just on an android right yeah i can't i can't let these white people talk to me like they got the biggest dicks in the world not these people y'all not the market you're not apple what are you doing what are you selling where's your store what do you have it just can't happen and unfortunately our people and lastly it's my last point because all of this [ __ ] is all of this [ __ ] may be cool even though it's not but what makes it more uncool is look out your window look out your window read the room look at what's going on the bucks didn't play wnba just out there wnba in what they been doing seven holes back of the t-shirt they rough they don't play lebron in the meeting they in the back room here go tell one of your friends to tell one of their friends they better stop or we gonna stop pretty much yeah why are you not reading the room i did like this is not the time to diminish your peer they shot tamir tamira rice on a [ __ ] playground hanging out chilling we all watching real time footage of the 17 year old white boy running around with some illegal with some illegal uh firearm a high-powered rifle yeah not a fake handgun he's killing people he's putting up signs to the cops here you're with me it's me relax trust me white right you got a white here you got a royal white don't shoot you not you're not you're not reading the room if you asking me why yo yo man why you don't get that why you don't kill gilly man every time he get every time he get a second he say something stupid yo sean man man he'd be hating you man i've been listening to this [ __ ] saying some stupid [ __ ] for a long time you want me to [ __ ] you want me to [ __ ] go and kill somebody cause you don't like the way you talk it's not that way i thought we all watched snowfall right i loved when franklin said that [ __ ] they could have their ideologies and i could have mine hey the more options the better one of these ways are gonna work but it's the same it's the same it's the same it's the same [ __ ] it's the same [ __ ] and unfortunately unfortunately too many of our people don't really know that they not the only people that can share information and pass it down from generation to generation like let us get our hands on some of the wealth so we can pass it down from generation to generation and that starts at information that's why i don't walk that's why i don't hang out with the rappers i'm not like y'all don't do all that i'm not coming in i got all the chains i gotta no no no no no we need info we need info [ __ ] i'm 40. i got 30 maybe 40 left god willing let me knock on wood and if i only got 30 know what they're gonna say today died young it's young when you get older you can't understand the value of just life in another day and another breath and another moment i don't have time to explain all of this [ __ ] to you idiots that might not get it the people that understand what i'm talking about they understand they get it they're writing up their pieces they're [ __ ] sharing information they're in the group chat some of the rappers out there push hit me i love you push schoolboy q i love you tde all integrity [ __ ] y'all wonder why i don't just run around sucking dick off billboards and singles i [ __ ] with the [ __ ] that kind of get it you know what we're doing you know what the fight is you had a whole title announcement it might have been off it might have been tone deaf sentiment is right right get yours know what happened when i asked hope if i can get some information so we can go to title you guessed it he said no [Laughter] why the [ __ ] would i do that now i'm not giving you my [ __ ] proprietary information from my platform that i put blood blood and sweat equity in for my entire life i'm not doing i'm married to beyonce no who no no no we can go to the club but no you're not getting information and at the time i came back to the crew and was like hey we're not getting information so we can't do it and then i got with some white people that lied and said you can have information and know what i realized i got david hope you did it again [Laughter] oh you was right again i love my brother no why because he kept it a bean yeah saved me the time i don't have the time to explain to y'all i've been doing forensic science over here y'all think i just watched the id channel for nothing no you know how long it took me to go find out what the difference is between premium and free a premium subscription versus a free subscription you know you know my month that took that ain't simple that's that's not that's charlemagne that's not what's in heavy rotation they're talking to me dumb we're not the [ __ ] same is it the difference between a 4.0 and a 4.6 um close pandemic happen you know what happened we lost seven figures in tour money easy yeah that one hurt yeah 20 dates maybe 15. do i need to explain to y'all what happens if joe gets upset at a dsp and says you know what i'm living on the road now it's more than what you offered spotify put out this stupid-ass statement hey we've all offered him multiples all you people out there oh he signed a bad deal the deal was two years ago look around look out the window i didn't make this rule if i'm the first house on the block and somebody come and put skyscrapers up the next day along the whole block guess what the [ __ ] happens to my house [Laughter] y'all think a black man has the power to make that rule they got to keep changing the rules man that's my point and until we find our own way we just gonna keep dealing with this [ __ ] i encourage all of my creators out there and that's the other thing man i'm a leader like i'm a leader in the space what does it say about me if if i just take some horrible [ __ ] to pad me in my guy's pockets right right what i'm gonna do hey guess what news flash if you broke out there you're gonna get some money and ain't much gonna change hey they gave me 40 million a year you know what i did bought a house somewhere and got a rose [Music] and went right back to work [Music] it changes taxes it don't change lifestyle for us when you from the mud when you from the mud that's important i'm shutting up now for because i probably have spoken too much no it's good it's cool know about it but my point to y'all is it is a beautiful beautiful beautiful day out there hold up man because you can't even say it's a beautiful day out there and not play the [ __ ] legend of god himself you know if we're just born here sebby say sebby dr sebby and maul say we could live off we could live off the plants that's a fact we could live off it's the earth you think the earth didn't put here for put stuff here for us to live like we don't need so much i don't have an obsession with these materialistic things i'm not in a competition with charlemagne or gilly or any other black podcaster i'm confused by gilly hey it's a big dick [ __ ] hitting the open market you'll never sniff a top spot since you love charts so much there's projections to what this [ __ ] looks like in the open market and that's what this conversation is really about the exclusive model versus the open market if you're lucky enough to get enough relationships of people of some important people that [ __ ] with you and understand your vision your whiteboard will begin to look a little different and people that work at [ __ ] radio stations would realize they should stop talking to me because maybe what i'm doing is benefiting your deal it's now that they offering you eight figures not five years ago i'm chilling i'm chilling it wasn't good i wouldn't say too much that was good don't worry i got your [ __ ] off said get me mad man give me man when you just gotta explain people that have no [ __ ] idea i got i got this this i got [ __ ] b mics out there talking to me about bad deals it's not a bad deal it's proof of concept hey do this xyz we go do it now what oh we can't participate we out of here we taking it to the next level hey if y'all don't see where this is going next listen egg on your face might feel good i don't know i never tried it i had a girl once jen from tampa she told me drink egg yolks in the morning it's healthy i never did this [ __ ] i don't i don't know i don't know maybe it's good but now is not the time to step on each other's voices great i don't care what you [ __ ] are doing i don't barely even talk about you [ __ ] i'm too focused the mission is too great and the mission is not build something to give fifty percent to somebody else i'm shutting up that's the it's it's only in hip-hop do we do this hey i'm a magician right before your very eyes i'm gonna build some [ __ ] up and then hand it to you and walk away and ask you for it no no no no no no no no no we're not the same we're not the same i left for show and that show is still airing know why it was built to a [ __ ] tee now there was some other [ __ ] i had to learn that's why i still air and i'm not being paid but i should if you learn still be being paid from that company airing the show that i built let's i'm done man charlemagne you know what time it is envy breakfast club y'all know what time it is but i'm not arguing with b mics of a podcast your podcast just stopped for mad long so i don't know what's gonna happen just leave us alone shut up shut up [ __ ] we've been here twice a week for two years like and i said all this amazing [ __ ] about racial inequality about wage inequality and know what my black brethren kings came back to me and said y'all negotiate negation no vacation time that's what you heard you [ __ ] idiot let me help you out we took a vacation we took a vacation remember my complex point about wanting to smoke in the bathroom after you've been hugely successful and i'm not letting you it sounded stupid to some people but energy and feelings and vibe hey you make somebody nine figures and they just treat you no no no no no no no we more power we're more powerful other people than that and to us it's real shocking because we're taught to share we're taught to share when [ __ ] is good how y'all don't want to meet the [ __ ] that made you [ __ ] nine figures i want to meet the guy that mailed my wallet back thanks didn't have to do that hey i was happy when the [ __ ] to jump me gave me my wallet back [Music] the dmv lines be long yeah i was on the street that was tom thomas got my wallet back to thank you thomas i was appreciative you better know a [ __ ] in the hood that know the [ __ ] that beat you up and got your wallet [Music] [Laughter] and i don't even care that you beat me up and got my wallet i said the social security card just send me back my social media just send me back my social security card actually take weeks to come any idea come on man yeah y'all know y'all know what i'm saying out there you know what i'm saying man it's 20 20. we'll we'll assess how this landscape looks later we'll assess how it looks later but i'm telling you as a humble servant of the people what's going on here so if you go there and accept whatever they talking about because that's what they're offering is standard practices it's x's y and z then you got to live with that it don't mean we're not fighting the same fight it just means we may be fighting it differently and i'm not going to step on you for that right excellent man hello bill withers man hold up rest in peace bill yeah happy saturday out there they say it's a storm coming they say we supposed to feel feel whatever we supposed to feel the impact of it i'm supposed to be going to the hamptons for a cookout i have no idea what i'm doing today turn up 40th birthday i walked away from some [ __ ] i'm feeling good out here and i feel even better because don't let it go understated all i need is the support of my [ __ ] that's gonna be tough for some of y'all to understand y'all listen to us bicker back and forth for this podcast about [ __ ] maul told me the sin looks good i didn't like that but guess what hey guess what my [ __ ] is riding with me that's all i need y'all need the rights to 20 gabillion podcast know what joe do every time y'all do it i hit a furniture store and buy a chair or a couch i'm ready to shoot the odds is always against us the fight is stacked it's cool we are proud people we win this [ __ ] regardless [ __ ] won't even dance to bill withers with me god oh no i'm rocking over here hey wait a minute some people out there know what i'm talking about nick i love your writings thank you so much man you're awesome you are i love you man also you better know what to do with your demand out there strike while the iron is hot i'll be the first one to tell you please believe me this phone has not stopped ringing since the podcast came out yesterday i had a dude reach out to me through a few uh through a few mutual friends that we have he was looking for me hey give me chills number give me chills and i'm gonna get it been a lot to get me joe's number over the last two days i text him yo what's going on this joe he said [ __ ] joe who i like violence [Laughter] hey know what i said good i like violence too baby hey before i got the revolt gig i went to puff house in miami sat me down for hours because he heard a bunch of [ __ ] that y'all [ __ ] wrote about me in the past he's like listen man they say some wild stuff about you but if your wild is controlled i don't mind it that's how the creative space works you should be able to scream if you need to yell if you need to [ __ ] have order somebody to do some [ __ ] if you need throw something at a wall if you need to it's a creative space made me feel like oh [ __ ] somebody gets it somebody gets it yeah y'all saying joe get fired from everywhere my revolt job great hey we're the black [ __ ] owner [ __ ] oh we having a blast we're having a blast i hope that some of y'all really get to understand your true value how you affect things and of course the infrastructure and the behavior of the marketplace not just the marketplace but stock as well it's important that's how we get to that generation of wealth that we talk about i said i was shutting up 10 minutes ago so i'mma shut up now what's it give me the air for me man man [Music] no no learning not to get mad at people's ignorance i don't take that host red [ __ ] cheap ass that y'all trying to [ __ ] spew this way to make you think i'm gonna give you the right to go litter my audio with whatever you want at any time y'all want that's the game happening i'm shutting up last thing they're gonna ruin y'all are uh your rss feeds if you're a musician you're not as gold you're going to boo if you lay the lead track when that's done what are you doing you guessed it you laying over dub know where the overdub sits over your lead know what you can do you can hear it during your lead you all want the right to just go back and that's really at the crux of this idiots that don't think we did a good deal uh the ability to just go back and layer ads over 400 episodes of [ __ ] joe says no what that means is oh we might not be as valuable if we're saying no no white people you don't get to say that i know what it i said to cause the brick is the brick the price is the price warren buffett said it [ __ ] is out here saying it we didn't just not negotiate i didn't ask for anything right before i get out of this [ __ ] cause i spend too much time here i just want to address the stupid [ __ ] that the stupid [ __ ] that came from their senior level executive staff as a response as damage control to the stuff i was saying about yo yo we made him a considerably larger offer than what he's making and some of y'all ate that up because y'all just believe in the white people these white people not regular white people don't try to give me for hate speech [ __ ] and first of all either way offered him a larger uh agreement or money so so yeah was it right so rory is right on so right so so is point number one point number two is yes you offered a lot more but you also asked for a lot more big facts you asked for a lot more so a lot more no you asked for everything you asked for everything and some of these stupid people our existence some of these stupid people are rolling with that but i mean let me explain it for the stupid people out there for the b-mike uh the b-mike lady that wants to [ __ ] talk to me about something who are you even talking about it doesn't matter because she's not important because our mission is great our mission is our mission is great and our mission includes her the person i'm talking about is a b mic and i don't even know if that podcast is still running gotcha i honestly have no idea talk about cook but everybody out there charlemagne included and every time charlemagne say something stupid all the old loudspeaker network pop up people and pop up not all of them but some of them pop up and say something stupid [ __ ] my fight is for combat jack he'd be rolling around his grave rest in peace that's my guy we know what he'd be doing down here and everything combat fought for was his network uh yeah yeah to the people that don't know how to read through the [ __ ] that white people say to make you judge your brother in a really horrible nasty way which would be me um yeah they sent more money and they asked for a lot more [ __ ] right and in that same response because people just say the stupid [ __ ] and don't even know what they're saying important to get information with uh when they don't know they're giving it is that they expect you uh pardon me is that they expect you two years later to accept the market price of what was happening two years ago no thanks it was two years ago right hey anybody out there nobody is mad everybody feels great it worked who you were two years ago is not who you're supposed to be today all we ever kept saying was fam it's a new day it's a new day it's a new day it's a new day and podcasting moves in hip-hop years two years in hip-hop and in podcasting is 10 years to the regular world that's how quick this [ __ ] is changing and moving yeah that two years was significant yes yes charlemagne after two years or toward the end of a contract joe tells people what's going on use that to paint me how you want but the fight is large and this is a very rare moment when the window is open there's like a black renaissance happening and cory's talking earlier what do you say [ __ ] uh today you've never seen you've never seen as many black men cry publicly as you're seeing today turn on the tv look out the window read the [ __ ] room it's not time for me to step on gilly's bum ass it's not time for me to step on anybody else that's not that's not where i'm at leave us alone while we change the game again please if you're programmed and conditioned you might think sorry whoa i didn't mean that one if you're programmed and conditioned you might think that two years after you signed some [ __ ] and watched everything change right before your eyes that you should be negotiating now based off two years ago that's the same stupid [ __ ] these white people kept saying i kept saying nah nah nah nah the end everybody happy i got my rolex [Laughter] rory god is my course [Laughter] more got the rolex with the bessie park's got the new come on man we got apple watches we don't need any of these things is what i'm saying along your journey you can get there without all of this [ __ ] that you think that you that you think that you think you need you just don't pay attention to the market and when it grows your value does too that is the end of joe's i've been saying that many times but that's really the end now i hope i was able to help some of you idiots out there yeah or some of the people ignorant naive inexperienced or just don't no i'm not here to offend anybody i'm not we all kings queens gods and goddesses that's where we are today and hopefully you're able to learn something here joe did that come what this is a rap finisher y'all so hopefully thank you you won't have to go through that thank you thank you i get it joe signing out man [Laughter] we going to get it man what's going on what's up what do y'all want to talk about listen uh arrogant and nicki minaj reunited tay did her hair um he did her hair he made a wig the new tie dollar sign video tay is the person in charge of nikki's wig and it's beautiful she looked great she didn't look beautiful man glad those two all those worked their things out yeah yeah come on come on all is right in the world again yeah chelsea she look great yeah i'm happy i'm happy for her yeah i'll be happy for people when they get like pregnant beautiful people that never had kids yeah just like you about to i know what you're about to encounter mm-hmm well from a guy's perspective you understand yeah of course of course you know we just [ __ ] that's that's important that's important we'll never understand that we don't really do much but the thing we love yeah yeah that's not true though that's not true i was in the delivery room uh holding a hand trying to offer words of uh encouragement they don't care about that oh no i got cursed out yeah yeah did you try to do the breathing journey you're not pushing out just get out the room i'm like you know what i'm gonna go get a pepsi yeah women get all the props in the world for me i i i can't push the [ __ ] out my ass sometimes yeah that's the thing it does yeah it's painful sometimes yeah we run around more fiber in the diet yeah five more veggies more water we run around throughout give me some [ __ ] now understand how the [ __ ] works yeah you got to understand the [ __ ] before you get it oh yeah man what's up man how many chicks you lost this week announcement came out they knew the bag was gone [Laughter] relax you didn't like that song relax i like that song but relax that fav got his whole feature and did that record that's what he did with it i like that song that's a good song hold on i'm arguing both sides again didn't lose nobody it was a dream come true a lot of interesting phone calls that's all just interesting like hey everything's good everything's great i don't know what y'all heard but have you ever lost a chick absolutely no you didn't not my man not like just like you were in public somewhere and she went to look at some clothes and you lost her for a minute like oh not like that no not like different loss no as if she's not in your life anymore yeah for sure but it's not it wasn't a you know at some point i probably wasn't because of you i wanted to lose our guests uh i wasn't mad at the law so that's kind of like i don't know i'm good now i mean i'm in the clear it doesn't matter it doesn't matter that was years ago though have you ever been i don't treat women like that anymore no okay you never like you can't come to me you can't extract the story you can't extract the story out of mole and expect it to be like a nice producible topic oh speaking of extract uh late entry uh extraction johnson i'm bronson extraction bronson there's a pause somewhere just can't figure out extraction oh when you're trying to extract somebody's bronze now sometimes y'all just have these like i don't know where y'all go with it but why you say y'all like it ain't rory that rory is part of part of the new podcast hey i i chose to stay with spotify yeah sorry guys we're saying everyone's got independent deals yeah you know spotify i'm gonna stay over out loud i have a whole new view of that little green tick i hate the color green now sorry we're right yeah you know right now [ __ ] tell me about the last time y'all uh tried to tell a girl that her voice was sexy first of all they don't believe you they're like are you just saying anything like that's not a real thing your voice is sexy that's definitely like a desperation horny [ __ ] yeah it's like yo you look familiar exactly it's the same it's the same type of [ __ ] i stopped saying that the chicks that actually look familiar to me they're just like all right man i ain't gonna give it to you every every every check looks familiar now tell me about uh is that up there with uh i feel like we've known each other forever yes yes the same family yeah same thing does that still work out there no well what a lot parks and rory are engaged so we're talking about the past well now i won't introduce well this technology i'm about to speak about didn't exist in the past so i'm gonna leave you guys out out of this but maul um two-part question have you ever uh and it's about nothing have you ever voice-memoed uh a dm to a chick on instagram and if so how many times did you delete it first how many takes yeah did you punch someone tell true the funny [ __ ] i think i just realized that you could do that maybe a couple months ago the voice memo it's been a couple months yeah have you been getting busy you could have laid but it was actually something that i think i needed to voice memo oh something you needed to get off your chest off your pence uh shirt no not the pictures it was it was just um well yeah what is she saying that here's another incline you to say i gotta say this one oh no sh she had said something funny and i was laughing at it and see mom ignores us when we silly like that and that's why it's corny you have to learn she has to hear me say this one yeah she got a head in my voice y'all ever had pisces [ __ ] one spicy march right march yeah yeah it's quality pretty sure i've had sex with a woman that was born in march it's quality i could i can't i'm not good with zodiac so i wouldn't know i'm only asking because i overheard uh someone say i wasn't taking part in the conversation no you wouldn't come on man it mean i don't care about money you just heard zodiac sign you've got to stop saying that you're not going to just get that off in conversation about money okay i don't care about money i want to drive it takes money that's bad yeah you need money to drive brand new teeth i don't care about money any money for everything in new york soon as you walk out your doors money goes yeah 50 50 an hour to breathe in new york that's right i forgot what i was about to say uh pisces oh pisces [ __ ] i overheard somebody talking from far away um isn't that a fish from far away you heard them don't worry about it i wasn't near it yeah no you're far away ain't getting me yeah nobody to give me i'm fronting there's nobody left they don't give a [ __ ] anymore i overheard them talking far away and they was like yo quiet as cat pisces [ __ ] is the best [ __ ] and it's never talked about enough because people just keep talking about scorpios but scorpio's not really it if you're familiar with pisces and i'm like interesting i've never been with a pisces so i can't speak to it not sexually not romantically not anything and then i heard that person say almost as if they heard my thoughts in my head yeah man the pisces just check out rihanna uh who else is about janae i don't think we are that's a pisces but we'll kill him but what's funny about that is somebody's saying that pisces has this i don't know what [ __ ] is none of them have ever been with real names i remember like no you see what they're doing out there don't do that i'll listen to that i've seen the reason why they're doing it i've gotten it yeah yeah come on don't do that yeah but we've seen the reaction from one minute they're wearing pisces from certain dudes yeah she's aquarius cool brianna look you is that the new horoscope well that's a good question you know they changed the dates around yeah yeah they showed a new horoscope yeah they tried to flip the whole board yeah they changed that around too look y'all let him change the horoscope this [ __ ] is crazy i'm trying to convince people about them changing things that the [ __ ] who are in favor of electoral votes [Music] [Laughter] i can't explain this to everybody um new music drew barrymore is one should tell you everything oh that's nice i'm not sure what that tells me exactly but all right go back go back go back take what you will yeah i listen elizabeth taylor no eva that's og you already know what time that is eva mendes is definitely jessica taylor you know what time that is what time is it joe she was married 91 times left although some [ __ ] died like this like she's out living look erica baidu well that's that's legendary look jessica bill come on now jessica bill got that come on that's objectifying but i understand what you're trying to say she's a great personality great woman great great actress i got it um music music music music did any music come out lox is all i cared about just being honest i didn't really check for anything else last night there was a couple singles but that was the only album that i i checked for uh two cnn summer remit remixed one of his his records that was song was pretty dope listen to that too um but the lox i didn't get a chance to hear you uh give me a review um yeah i like it man i'm i'm glad to hear a lot of the rappers that i grew up listening to with nas last week and lox this week um they still in shape man oh absolutely they're still in shape i mean the locks have been they've been active so yeah it's not like they you just uh individually and collectively yeah yeah but um it was dope paying this man a couple couple rounds i was kind of confused about hearing sheik on a reggae beat to my wine your waist or something like that showing off not trying to wind your waist yeah not to the lox i was kind of looking at the speaker like no i don't want to hear y'all doing this man but uh other than that the album is is really good man it is the joint with uh benny and west side is is dope uh the jeremiah record there's some joints on there that's that's really really good i like it this is a real good project that record was produced by you clay dove how do you hate on the record that you produced you produced duty duty i didn't i didn't pretend that's definitely your producer that wouldn't even be no doubt or maybe it's ducky tucky yeah or maybe it's dusty no i didn't produce that that wasn't me that's not my work right there but this is a good project i like it yeah the few records i heard uh before we started recording sounded really good i listened to some of the uh jaden smith album listening like four the first four records sounds good i'm just um i don't know jaden is talented but i i just don't know if his music is for me yeah that's how i feel uh i think it always sounds really good but i never go back to it yeah he has a couple records that i really like they got to take from his projects and put him in my own little playlist but overall projects i i don't know if i could really get into an overall project i'm not sure what the disconnect is for me because i think he's really talented yeah it's it's good music but it's just i don't know where i would play that reasonable reasonable but i don't any other music is up to you oh what else came out what else came out parks what else came out singles came out uh days low fear of god stealing your sauce but this is my sauce yeah that was that was your sauce you see parts i was arguing not much music came out this week and then you had a whole uh oh yeah a lot of music came out i mean not albums not a lot a lot of singles came out that's what i wait what you mean music that backpacker parks had no idea was being released today wow from the conway the musical katy perry [ __ ] wow that's what you want to talk about katy perry [ __ ] i like katy perry i do too she's talented but this is another uh hit boy another another hit boy produced track oh conway and dejlo you're all trying to show the rangers he's everywhere i would listen to the conway and katy perry remix this to this yeah teenage dream right on top of that hell yeah and she kissed a girl and liked it over some conway beats some fireworks with all that [ __ ] oh [Laughter] so you coming home ran and raving about how much you like kissing a girl act like you got a touchdown before what she even look like yeah come on man yeah one day we got to talk about it yeah and girls making our [ __ ] places mad you know mad regular you do anything out of the ordinary yeah you try to freak the game create some new [ __ ] get you a girl that like girls and ask her about her taste thinking that y'all gonna vibe no it never works out never mind her taste is disgusting she likes [ __ ] annoying zoe dollars the other day shout out to zoe dollars joey dolls the other day uh instagrams from she's like yo man you be having high hopes until you look at the instagram comments and see all the smuts underneath there supporting her it does put things in perspective girls don't do nothing and get support oh ghosts look at that turquoise swimsuit oh you about to kill you have to kill oh a secret dude is [ __ ] talking her in a condo like yo erase that comment erase that i don't even want i don't even want [ __ ] to know that like you kick it with shorty man do y'all like being have you ever been a secret yeah it was amazing like yeah it was probably the greatest gun in my it's bag a bad space to live in that's the greatest keep me a secret until you don't want to be one rory relax man relax you got to start throwing hands to when you realize that this wasn't your path and you want to be shown off that's crazy when the guys imagine a dude [Laughter] if you love something you'll let the world know no i won't you never post me the funniest [ __ ] is you go through that with that girl and then she gonna meet the dude that she wanna post that's you be hating yeah look at the [ __ ] you're posting all right what's important out here what's important out here akon t-pain hun little acon t-pain deep dive yeah we'll get into that uh let me get back in the music after that this is still music i suppose yeah uh tony braxton came out give us a review break it down parks what parks parks you are attempting to manipulate wall street right now you are trying to convince your stock uh stockholders and board members that you are aware that tony braxton's album was coming out i wasn't aware i know that you didn't know know how you found out a black king told you and now you are stealing my information and bringing it to the air because you have to raise your stock that's not what i'm trying to do i'm trying to get information from you about the album yeah thank you rory that's what they all say parks i'm paranoid now i remember when i remember i remember i lost my mind see rory singing with me rory then wrote bars what's up with y'all i just want to know why you look at me when you start singing these random ass records more you're the only person sitting you like them crazy that is true like look you're doing it again you heard him because you make him crazy what is up with him rory you have to stop that stop what harassing being gay stop harassing me okay six more episodes hey six more episodes hold up man let me see uh tony braxton came out i'm not really trying to talk about it because i have a sleeper that's coming from her featuring her uh her featuring her tony featuring her ah okay uh tony featuring tony there's some [ __ ] on there man tony voice tony's voice sounds so just mesmerizing still there oh my god man she's amazing she's what a queen what a queen goddess god is not queen that might be offensive what a goddess legend for sure yeah no i cut the tv off last night and just went to sleep to tony's album i love that on thursdays that i wake up like i go to sleep whenever i go to sleep and i wake up around 1am 2am be like oh yeah what came out who crushed the studio session i should have turned the livestream as soon as you woke up i didn't know the locks was coming out yeah the hello but that's kind of what i'm talking about in my some of my some of my beef here i would know the lox is coming out if the people in charge of programming the algorithms thought it was important for me to know that the locks were coming out absolutely because i checked what's right there then i checked the singles and i start searching some of my favorite people see if they snuck something out mm-hmm but like if i know the locks have come i'm definitely checking for lost come on man [ __ ] juice bars jedi kids just text me and told me to drink some green tea we grow all that all that [ __ ] aqua lime [Laughter] a chick put make you a smoothie put some [ __ ] in the blender you know dude when you're touching that blender i got five blenders in my kitchen i love the nutribullet when was the first time you tried yoga with a chick who was that chick that made you try yoga i never do yoga i haven't that's not a laugh like guys that never did yoga that's not something that a bunch of guys just done you did hot yoga never i want to though i want to try it but it was great it is i want to try it all right well we talked about uh conway dave's loaf uh black thought and shawn c put out their first record with swiss killer mike second yeah uh with which is really really great yeah they have uh their album streams of a thought volume three kane label coming out soon uh corde put out his uh single with roddy rich that's pretty dope my guy yeah i was excited no no longer young ybn you all know the boss just just the chord you don't need that another young wolf king and i like the new lyrical rappers being with the bigger melodic rappers bigger man you like them being with the bigger men that's weird that your brain brought you there but it's cool we can just keep pushing um pj martin put out a gospel album uh shout out to pj love you pj yeah always check that out um and i love gospel but who owns the churches hey look that's the whole year you know what this is six episodes we bite real [ __ ] another conversation real [ __ ] is bike mom uh jasmine sullivan put out a single for the first time in in years and she's she's talking that jasmine [ __ ] oh yeah yeah yeah we might we might need to save a lyrical breakdown some guy i'm gonna hurt her again it took a couple years this time though i was it was good to see her back um with new music though i love her one of her voices like people that can really sing for real look see just that fast you compliment a woman's voice yeah your voice is sexy yeah but jasmine sullivan's voices yo i could just listen to you was yeah the windows out of a car and i was like oh that's sexy and then it was like maybe he deserved it well did he have tents did he have a tent [ __ ] without cars would think that's sexy yeah that's exactly did you see the mozzie sitting dirty outside i can't because the benz is blocking it first first the small bottle you see the small body mozzie neo dropped something yeah and uh i was gonna play this as my sleepover oh my god it's working it's just a single though i gotta hit the uh algorithm stream is this a single okay oh no it's just a single i don't know if it's the single for the album but got you that [ __ ] is fire uh yeah russ and kailani tony raxon tile out uh ty dolla sign that we talked about how's the russian kalani joint campfire i liked it yeah i'm slowly becoming why would you have to because i'm admitting that i was not a rust fan for a while yeah he has won me over with his music i know i'm asking what the strength i would be i'm a liar if i was like i've been a russ fan but what i'm saying is you've said that a bunch what is the statute of limitations on qualifying when you like an artist you're like you we've liked right [ __ ] already uh judging judging by this podcast if you say one negative thing in a million positive things that artist that's only going to focus on that one negative thing you said so you know sometimes i have to put it out there that's true until somebody that we [ __ ] with that's in the artist camp calls them and lets them know fam that's not what it is you're bugging yeah you're emotional just chill out let them [ __ ] [ __ ] with you oh no no i get it i see what they was doing communication that's all it is [Music] um is that all for the new music yeah there's probably some more but that's what i call it today wasn't it wasn't a bad friday mostly singles but it wasn't a bad friday at all i ain't gonna lie berg sent a bunch of unreleased [ __ ] to my phone that's all the way fire of course oh my goodness i think we'll ever get it no no but so berg was in new york for about four hours drake was in new york last night right was he uh yeah doing some type of something that we don't know the nike where'd you go mo no no nowhere my homeboy my homeboy uh they i guess they saw him in the bronx it was like a it was like a rolls royce ovo plates my boys i guess pulled up at the light you say you in there [Music] relax listen nothing was the same drake told us that i'm pulling up to the projects in my most expensive car to see shorty yeah and i'm letting y'all see it word spreads that a bugatti is in the projects i'm sure that did spread that'll spread fast the thing is aubrey when you park out there i mean they're gonna recognize they're gonna see it yeah yeah they're gonna see what's going on would somebody inform you what's happening between acon and t-pain please it's a beef i hated to see man is there a beef i wouldn't say beef maybe a little tiff amongst old business partners uh acon's been doing a press run he sat with vlad and argued about duke for about four hours along with my son and the rest of the world y'all love sitting with blad i don't get it y'all love that drum set you're so nasty you know black people like drums so you're gonna put the drum set behind akon you [ __ ] yeah i didn't see this i don't know what this is about yeah hippos rory uh well they brought up t-pain and of course akon signed t-pain and and kind of launched his career um so akon had a little bit to say about t payne's career t-pain is ultra talented to this day to the same extent well i think i think one of the major reasons is that t-pain never left the hood like he just confined his music to urban music uh you just gotta watch how his response was that his music was his question was why hasn't t-pain what do you say hasn't been successful as long or something he's still on songs today i mean he had an okay career right he's sold tens of millions of people understand what he would acom trying to say he's well music players so you can you can hear it ultra talented to this day why do you think that people stop with them to the same extent well i think i think one of the major reasons is that t-pain never left the hood like he just contact confined his music to urban music confined he confined his music to here another me to be able to cross outside of urban going to pop going to edm going to his latin like definitely and and i would enter through the latin side today uh hip-hop is the biggest genre on the planet and t-pain was a major part of making it that way but this is why you have to be very careful of how you equate value first of all i have a problem but i may be a little too woke i have a problem with acon a black king stepping on t-pain a black king to this to this white man vlad this style white man when i say this white man i don't mean i have a problem with white people this white person in particular this specific white person why is he doing that like come on man it's just not the time it's not the time you know that's one and two i'm sorry mommy because and two i've been to enough kickbacks and hot spots and friends who know a bunch of friends hey some friends coming over come through tomorrow to know that only white people really turned up tom sprung i love um sprung only white people really turned no he fooled us what i'm in love with a stripper we was jamming to that but listen i got some bottom jeans as someone who is a white and can speak for the whites and where's boots with the fur yes i mean i didn't have the apple bottom jeans they know my size but i will say t-vane was liked by the whites i'm just here to make them all uncomfortable that's all that's all i'm here to do i like it oh that wasn't even what my face was i'm like he can definitely fit in the apple box oh thank you come on rory you got to jump up and down thanks man [Laughter] you can get that flatty in there you know i like things that are more [Music] oh man would you say you said there's a trick yeah angles let's just go look yeah you gotta yes you got to position them like white people won't do to us put us in position you got to raise their little ass up that's flat squeeze the sides together with your wrists consensually essentially of course and then make it look like it's downtown make it look fluffy yeah oh like a pillow i feel you gotta flip up float up the ass don't let me fluff that don't let me get into that bag where i think something where i think it might be lucrative to cuddle with you on an island y'all just know that you're a good cuddler lucrative it's just me right nobody ever heard that anyway that might be aggressive let me try it again yo i know you're a good cuddler i'm like nah that's too deep you don't see what i'm trying to do yo the funny i'm taking a trip with strangers soon what a complete stranger yes like that you've never you should bring a weapon physically met or never even had like a conversation rory the black man is a weapon hmm talk about that [ __ ] i'm saying they kill black people for having hoodies on it let this white dude walk around with a rifle word yeah i wasn't afraid of that that was a 17 year old with a rifle i'm afraid of 17 year olds period i can't tell you that was my last fight i lost a little young [ __ ] punk little squirmy [ __ ] like a six foot six bastard look at this guy this was this was nice yeah i'm not even gonna get into it i just like how we got all the way just kept driving you know oh yeah uh give me give me your final synopsis on acom versus t-pain well t-van replied on twitter uh and said the very people that helped bill t rory well i mean you can find it on all platforms uh the very people that held me back uh is telling y'all how i could have been bigger oh my god is that t pain keep the phones ringing ding ding dong but he responded again rory he said i'm not angry at all i've grown i've learned how to keep moving forward and not look back some people don't and that's okay they'll get there at their pace but i'm no longer going to allow my past to determine my future i'm in control see y'all on the brighter side this is like when a chick breaks up with a dude and she still likes him he's just missing the nail emoji after that because he don't really love y'all or t-pain yeah but i'd love a doc on this hey connor t-pain yeah we got to get to the bottom of this t-pain obviously feels that there is some type of issue with how his career was handled correct and it is very difficult to be signed to someone who's actively making music yeah it is because with a similar kind of role too like you are you know yeah you are in some somewhat of a competition there as we explained last part yeah i get this man i get this but t-pain is a kang akon is a king they're both legends for me um their contributions cannot go unnoticed i view t-pain as pop but i'm not having a pop argument right now view them how you want but t-pain is popular music yeah for sure he is hip-hop is playing an acon stop talking to vlad man stick to my song yeah yeah that's it that's it um do y'all have a take on this only fans fiasco well i didn't know much about it well bella thorne and i'm not certain who that is neither is raising millions of dollars with her only fans account but she's only raising hell for sex workers who say she's hurting their bottom line i actually thought it was a porn star when i saw this because bella thorne sounds like a porn star named it does so i was like well there's a porn star on only fans what's wrong with that right bella joined the subscription-based subscription-based social media platform last week charging folks two hundred dollars for a three-pack of sultry photos and insinuating they were nudes when they weren't that old trick all the girls are doing that over there yeah that's regular [ __ ] but she's a celebrity now ah so that's where it gets tricky as i explained the last podcast let's do it bella says she's already banked 2 million and made the account to do research for an upcoming movie some subscribers felt they were duped i used to always for research too yeah so i too want to be an actor rory want to be woody harrelson okay great actor that was just wordplay because you'd be talking about woody's a lot um some subscribers felt they were dupe became upset and requested refunds and now the other girls selling images of their bodies on the site say only fans is changing its rules on account of bella and making it harder for them to earn money what do you know it's the same [ __ ] joe has said right what do you know go bella sex workers are complaining they can now only oh yeah because they change the rules i don't need to read this i know what happened what happened was bella thorne did the same thing that all the girls are doing you know uh there's a subscription there's a pay wall to only fans sometimes sometimes there isn't but yeah no no no no no stop there is a pay wall to only fans always you have to pay now there's some people you can subscribe to i believe without uh paying a subscription well they're regardless they're in the money it's still a paywall no it's a follow and then they offer content that you can purchase on a uh per item basis that's back to my earlier point parks there is no difference between free and premium as long as you're there it took me a long time to find that out but it's the same [ __ ] there's a pay wall here sure and whoever owns that [ __ ] they are maximizing from your mere presence it don't matter if you're free or whatever they're advertising to you that's that so this is a pay wall uh and after the paywall is when you can post [ __ ] and request tips and you have to pay to see this thing you have to pay to see it she put some [ __ ] up crashed the site made a whole lot of money and the fans requested refunds and then only fans because they're liable now said okay there are there will be no more of the tip to see the picture thingamajiggy's that's over 50 right because we cannot continue to be on the hook if a massive people just start requesting uh requesting i'm sorry refunds so they're all mad at her and that's the issue did they did they change the rule yes they changed it okay you can only do the tippy thingamajiggy to see titties and ass if it's 50 you can't just make up a price now it seems like the rule should be that the advertisement has to be accurate because that seems like more of the reason why people want a refund because they she said it was going to be a nude picture and it wasn't a nude picture parks no that could be subjective too i guess parks the internet are fighting the the major people on the internets are fighting with each other about proving that there's about fact-checking with the political stuff that they're posting they are not about to get into fact-checking tits are out yeah i mean i can help you i don't mind doing the research i'm a volunteer yeah it takes a village i'll be the whole monitor for only fans hey hey hey you said nudes where's the nudes don't worry about the breakers worry about the break new ground and be the first dude to get a divorce during engagement that's definitely not the first you trailblazer you um how do y'all feel about this this is a big thing i know it's none of our business because we shouldn't insert ourselves in women business yeah but i understand but it's big because it's subscription model stuff and that's that's the business now the game is the game yeah i feel feel who the sex workers the women that are using only fans uh for promiscuous photos for pay right i feel for them i understand this this [ __ ] up their game yeah you all got to stop uh [ __ ] your boyfriend's only fans i'm back to that still sorry i don't want to see you got to be a strange dude you don't like that yeah no not at all [ __ ] miss dredry posted some [ __ ] all day [ __ ] sucking off some emoji face dude i'm like come on man well just imagine it being you that's what i think that's supposed to be the thing grabbing my credit imagine it being imagine it being you i think that's how they're supposed to put the mask on and it could be anyone who isn't it could be you can't imagine yourself as an emoji yeah it could be you with them smiley faces what do you think about it i love it uh which part i always want to buck the system man right and i do think it's [ __ ] up that we can't charge whatever we want to charge because one person came in here and skewed everything that's kind of been what i've been saying for a long time here i don't know why these people out there are confused about what joe has been saying it's all very direct you ever say some real direct [ __ ] to your girl and i know where this is going nope let's leave then moving along yeah oh she totally understood it when i said it directly i'm trying completely understood exactly where i'm coming from then this thing is moving forward i'm trying to get you out of there and she responded ti in 50 cents have a new collaboration together yeah 50 nti brand new cbs cbs scripted something um so he didn't get the verses but he got the 24 7 the drama ti inspired by notorious cop inside story or tupac big and j master j investigate from nypd's first hip hop cop i've seen that before i feel like but it's fine because i'm supporting my kings cbs all access is in final negotiations for the project which will be produced by cbs tv studios and lionsgate tv that's what jackson that's what 50 is based under his mega deal with lionsgate owned stars that's pretty cool three networks he's on i wanna think about 50 he gonna work i know and black people out there are gonna champion it because you recognize the work being done the barriers being broken and the path being laid out for future people who would like to follow in those footsteps it's like when i was on a record label and i was saying well damn if i'm having trouble putting out an album here why can't i take an album go make an album and put it out under another label while i'm still on at this label right you all have the rights to this album you have the rights to this album you have the rights to this album everybody good album that's where we are now we make our rules that's what 50 is doing there's nothing to debate there's nothing to negotiate when they ask me uh hey um how are you valuing this i just go pull up any metric what metric any metric any one that's how we did you can pull up any metric and figure it out don't come to me and try to base our value on a [ __ ] bell curve that you're creating because there's a national and global pandemic happening no no no no you you value me at my high not when the world is at a low um shout out to 50 man yes for life on nbc uh abc i believe abc i'm sorry for life on abc got a cbs deal going on over here got a bmf show coming got mad power spin-offs coming like don't be fooled by the public antics 50 knows what he's doing out here he knows what he's doing congratulations he's an inspiration i'm watching i'm looking forward to it yeah and i'm happy that him and t.i have collaborated and worked together see how you fool people with the with the dismay and the ruckus between each other and gather people gather people get them to look are attracted to immediately yeah you get them get them get them to look and now okay bang what are you looking at this business to be done here i'm super happy that we're able to figure that out i am yeah yeah shout outs to 50 and tr that's dope i like the fact they went behind the scenes and made some business happen same work when everybody thought there was a tift and the two brothers who made who made their mark in music and just flourished in plenty other areas plenty plenty plenty plenty plenty other areas that's all that's enterprise value yes ti has it 50 has it joe has it there are few people that have it sorry to the people out there that are unable to recognize that know your worth is not just a punch line right it's not just something that we say it's an action um what else is going on what else is going on here quick site don't you see that you pulled that up and my comment was there i hate when i comment under somebody's [ __ ] did you see that public enemy resigned to death champ no i didn't thought that was interesting i thought it was interesting when the report came out saying that uh public enemy plant that whole political fight that they had a few months ago i saw that as well that was a lot to me but because i respect it i just never said anything but that was odd okay um i'd like to know the particulars with that if they are indeed back on def jam yeah they're kind of pioneers in independent worlds yes sir and pioneers of death jam so it's interesting yeah for sure i trust chuck me too unless unless he's making up schemes to make it look like well i trust him then too because some people are not attempting to gather people for clout some people actually have a real purpose and goal of why they're trying to bring people together yeah so we'll see we'll see what else we got going on it's important we need to get to nothing nothing nothing nothing weekend big weekend big weekend anything playing anything playing anything planned just celebrating man yeah i'm uh i'm going to a baby shower and uh congrats i didn't quite look at the invitation when i rsvp and then today i went to go look at the address so i could see like the timing and i assume you know it's got it's probably in the bronx right where this gentleman is from and lives nah it's in the poconos and there's a dress code yeah wait what i rsvp to a good friend's baby shower just right away because that's my man i'm going to shower why would you do that because that's my man i'm going to go to his baby shower just assume you know what it'll be uptown that's fine yeah love hooks especially on a saturday quick stop who doesn't love uptown on a saturday drop the gift off hug everyone say what's up with my mask on the potato salad now i have to wear beige and go to the poconos beige bay just fly though yeah you can't go wrong with base yeah enjoy yourself man i think i might it should be cool take a little road trip wait well today today yeah with the rain though with your goddess queen no that probably just me and paisley oh that is your goddess queen cs goddess queen junior goddess queen he's my little lady [Laughter] i see them and see what you did there yeah see what you did so it's your birthday plans man yeah man happy birthday little funny you should ask real brunch hey hey it's your birthday hey hold him shake with me let's go more hollow shake with me more rory nobody roar it's my birthday weekend man i'm not doing anything but i don't have my baby hey get to active responsibly get to active responsibly good for you man you deserve hey this is a big moment everything going on i don't think it's by mistake it's not by happenstance i think this is all happening at the right time for for this young man winter summer spring [Laughter] my mom is making me collard greens and rice and turkey turkey wings some of my favorite meals the mom's around the perfect i'll make you your favorite the funny [ __ ] because i didn't ask to do nothing for my brother i don't want to see a bunch of people my cleaning lady comes on mondays i like my house clean y'all could tell my house yeah stay on the mouth yeah yeah no really um but i'll take some turkey wings and collard greens from mom dukes what i'm thinking is i'm gonna break this up hang out with family and the kids and do all that 40-year-old [ __ ] early get them out by about 4 30. okay and then you that you guessed it only fans after that in the streets are you in the streets i gotta hit the streets from near maul you gotta let them know what the value of a stream is all right y'all not singing me happy birthday it's cool hey what what happens different at 40 no your knees crack a little more when you wake up i'm guessing you just at 40 you wake up and just like oh another day here i'm still here all right even though it's supposed to be storming right now i do hope everybody's having a good weekend and got to feel good when it come on absolutely got to feel good uh is there anything else that we need to discuss we gave him four hours the other day i don't need to be here all day today yeah no i said my piece said what i had to say yeah we gucci man six episodes left is great subscribe on youtube please life is beautiful uh what else what else what else fight the good fight with us get you some limits avoid avoid the media spin and the media cycle that happens uh when we're all just out here trying to get it like when somebody is getting too close to information and that's really just the bottom line and all of my pit stops along through my journey being inquisitive i just always got too close to the information and because of that we have to spend this a certain way he's nuts he don't get it he's crazy he's a lunatic he needs therapy he needs rehab he needs something i get it i get it i get it that that hasn't changed uh the same way i say to know what's coming you have to look at what's already happened those things still exist like the 60s 70s 80s when cops were out there killing people a lot of black people stephen jackson jackson posted something that said hey since my since my twin passed police have killed 300 black people it's a trend that has to stop but what i'm saying is they operate off of our uh uh civil unrest off of our fear off of us not knowing what's to come or what's happening tomorrow hey a storm is coming go buy all the water stop we go by all the water water's out bread's gone all that [ __ ] is going it's just the normal [ __ ] that happens they haven't updated at all remember we were supposed to get harriet tubman on the 20 bill and we didn't get it they pushed that back they haven't updated very much is all do not let them redline you white out of your eyepiece that is my grandiose statement you don't have to know what's going on if you listen here some of y'all trust me some of y'all know i'm not just saying it to say it i'm not cloud chasing i'm not hanging with [ __ ] i'm not trying to be friends with [ __ ] except for the people that i like and i'm friends with it i didn't know and i got to know you guys you guys are awesome but this right i'm not bad now i [ __ ] with you you know there's value there's value in that uh just somebody that you can kind of trust to know what they'll do when they get there and what i'm coming back to tell my people same way they did in slave days same with it in the 50s 60s 70s 80s 90s and now is what michael jackson said they don't really care about us mike was having a catalog fight with sony big fight he understood the value of what that catalog meant they painted him as a monster i'm telling you spotify and before i even get into that yo huge day this is a huge day for all of my black kings and queens uh gods and goddesses that actually work intoxify like those of y'all that are you like that silver come on those of y'all that are actually there some of y'all that can't publicly support what i'm doing what i'm saying my actions you all know the vibes the creators out there y'all know the vibes i'm not just speaking for me i'm coming from coming from the people i am brought to you i'm from the people and brought to you by the people so if i'm telling you people don't care about you it's because i'm reading the tea leaves a bit differently case in point i told y'all last podcast that uh we told him to give some money away to the fans and they said no get the [ __ ] out of here the part that i missed that rory or somebody tried to remind me of was just two months later i went in my own pocket and gave all the money out to people in need during a pandemic can't say how much because it's too many people just hit me like yo i got bills and i just cash tapped it right there i just sent it strangers yo do you want me to post about this no no you don't have to post about your [ __ ] situation because i gave you something you don't have to do that that's how it works counter spotify spotify why y'all one of the companies that put out a statement when all the black people was getting killed talking about like just like james dolan and nyx i want to amplify black voices spotify we don't get here today if you truly want to amplify black voices if you want to do that you want to give us a a a viable path to passively participate in all that we've built not continue to rob artists right because i've been muzzled here that that's like a professional courtesy that i gave during my time here so that y'all don't think i'm nuts but i'm a retired artist so when i see the headlines that say spotify is going to court because we don't that's in the news that's not me reporting it that's out there hey hey we're going to court because we don't want to pay the artist we don't want to pay the artist we don't want to pay apple their fee for having an app store we don't want to pay nobody and if you understand that people out there that don't understand [ __ ] they got so much to say about [ __ ] if you understand that then you view things differently so when covet hits and spotify puts something out on all these music pages that says hey if you want to support covid research tipping artist excuse me not the cdc we should tip not uh who else anybody that the medicine anybody else other than you all want the fans to tip the artists think about this when you're trying to recognize who you're dealing with it's not a negotiation when you in a company that you see behave this way charlemagne it's not for you to go and convince these people what you're worth is you just leave when you don't like how you treat it show me on the phone saying all types of stupid [ __ ] to me yo man you're not an you're not a network these other guys that you're naming their net their network you're talking about gimlin they what you don't understand is they've got shows that started shows and then they get produced and published and they become tv shows they become like big screen small screen [ __ ] joe you can't compare yourself to them charlemagne you've just described depression to me and you're on my phone arguing for it some of these people and companies receive these opportunities because they're whitewashed companies and i can't convince you that there's something happening in the nfl where we won't hire black offensive coordinators black coaches black we won't let you share in the real [ __ ] that is behind the scenes charlemagne like if you don't understand that part then this is off you're not gonna tell friends that they shouldn't value the tv show friends that they shouldn't value themselves as high as they do you're not going to tell seinfeld that you're not going to tell the office that you're not going to we only tell it to each other right some of y'all are out there laughing because we are setting the value on something that's ours think about it think about it what would you prefer for me to take it and do what come back to y'all and what put up the money phone that's not why i'm here that's not why i'm here that's what they're looking for it's not one in the air that's not what i do that's not what we do we we be on that oh man i anticipate the phone ringing all weekend it's gonna happen the phone's been ringing since wednesday when uh when do you think steve jobs will go what about walt disney rest in peace steve jobs and what well no yeah well what was what was a little [ __ ] man yeah there goes the disney offer [Laughter] i then what listen man it was a really good podcast joe you really got your bag again on this one um i really appreciate your words i love you happy birthday there was something so special about that day that place get rid of your emotions no ego the revolution will not be televised it comes from the mind you're out there i was out of touch i didn't know a thing no information no it's because i didn't know enough i see what he did there now you're right [Music] listen man that's who i am i'm gonna buck the system every time i get it i get it it looks weird it looks weird to you guys who've never skydived the people that have skydived before know that that [ __ ] is exhilarating try this sometime charlemagne try it go up to iheart and say yo the next [ __ ] that i read up here i need 60 of it go up there and say hey i need a way to track every single person that has ever listened to not only this station because of our radio show but any other radio show in relation to ours you know how they keep saying hey man if you like this you might like that one [ __ ] no i don't [Music] does that make me crazy if they want the youtube audience and there's a million people over there shouldn't you have to pay me some of all of the million people over there yeah that's what i'm not i'm not crazy i'm not crazy man hey all right listen man keep using your prayers lord knows we need to be there ain't no more checks coming we're on our own now y'all uh subscribe to youtube follow me on instagram follow me everywhere you can follow me except for spotify national finance spotify please no please no tell the republicans you love joe they'll they'll misuse the information what was that saying oh he was he bears a little know what he needed to be there all right until the next time i bid you a dude farewell adios arrivederci all of that good stuff please remember life is a series of moments life is a series of moments and moments past so let's make this one last as if it's all that we have and that's the thing that some people are missing man nobody's angry nobody's upset like everything worked it's working it's happening right before our eyes it's important to highlight that part you know fam i mean it's very important listen to that part every phone call says uh hey how much time we have not much you don't you don't have much time hey who you talking to everybody talking to everybody you figure out how we can get creative with you and see if we can change the game again all right we outta here everybody enjoyed a weekend please be safe out there crime is up crime is up crime is up do not sleep do not sleep believe me it can happen to you be safe please be safe out there y'all duke should stop [ __ ] with uh dukes he should stop that it's dangerous yeah it's dangerous you're playing the street you bound to get hit by a car please stop we out of here man we're going to enjoy our weekend i'll be 40 by the next time y'all here for me peace love and light to everybody out there pay no attention to mass media cycles who want to uh paint paint a black king in a horrible horrible horrible horrible light that's not the vibe that's not where we at we're feeling good about life whoa

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Published: Mon Aug 31 2020