The Jeffrey Epstein Accuser and The Story You Never Heard - Part 1

just five days after Jeffrey Epstein shocking death attorney Lisa bloom filed a lawsuit against his estate and multiple possible core conspirators alleging that Epstein sexually assaulted two young women at his New York City mansion in 2004 one of these women was just 19 at the time of the alleged incident until today she was known only as Jane Doe - but she's barely decided to reveal herself and share her story publicly for the very first time Oh No thank you for being here Kiki thank you doctor eyes Lisa thank you always place your heavy on the show Kiki what gave you the strength to come forward today and tell your story in short it was all the women who came before me their strength and courage and bravery inspired me tremendously the support of my family but I also felt this social and moral responsibility as a woman and as a victim and now survivor to do what they did for me and to sort of pay it forward good for you Kiki I know it takes a lot and that's why I'm so proud that so many are coming forward let's talk about what happened with you you're 19 years of age you're in New York City you've been modeling for five years roughly you working at a restaurant called the coffee shop that make ends meet and you're approached by someone who's associated with Jeffrey Epstein mm-hmm what happened yes so I was a hostess at the coffee shop and one day a woman a young beautiful woman probably a few years older than me walked in and she sort of began to right away endear herself to me she was very sweet she was very kind she started telling me about her client and who she worked for she worked for a very generous wealthy and prominent man and she had been working for him for a very long time he was very good to people he was very generous he liked to help young girls with their careers and at that time the coffee shop was kind of a hunting ground for recruiters because they typically only hired models or spying aspiring actors or models so you had to have a certain image you know so that was a good place for them to recruit and you know I had I was nineteen I didn't have any frame of reference at this point not to trust someone that seemed very trustworthy and so she continued to tell me about this job that she might have for me an opportunity which was to go to this man's house who was very generous very nice nice person nothing bad would happen and to give him a massage I had I thought okay well you know I don't have any massage therapy experience so that that was kind of odd but you know and I brought that up with her and she says well he just kind of likes young young pretty girls I thought okay well this is New York what's that's not that unusual right so after that we were in contact and I decided to go ahead with the opportunity which I thought would you know he would be able to help me with my career he was friends with presidents he had a lot of ties in the fashion industry and at that point I was trying to get back into modeling I'd taken like a year break that second I'm just curious about this process of of grooming you use that phrase mm-hmm so she meets you at the coffee shop is that the next conversation is going to his house with anything happened everybody yeah in between there was a process of grooming so she kind of wined and dined me she wanted to get to know me too to get to know who I was and she did you have any frame of reference what was she talking to anybody else at the coffee shop I had no idea no version she just picks you out yes like a hunter looking for a prey mm-hmm yeah that's a mm-hmm and she tells me you know one of the things that really stuck with me that I thought kind of odd at the time but now makes a lot of sense was you know she said just be sure just to make sure you know if he asked you how old he wore and make sure you don't say you're older than 17 or 18 even though it was only 19 at the time and I said oh okay and of course at the time that was unusual but again you know a reason to be fearful no reason to see the seam that she was a threat to me or that he would be so I walk around the corner and I walked to his house and I still remember those big giant doors and this maid comes to the door she answers the door she takes me to an elevator I get on the elevator I get on the elevator and she takes me to a room it's a dimly lit small room with a massage table in the middle of it and she says you know he'll just be a few minutes and and she shuts the door and that's when I felt trapped a few minutes later he walks in with a towel around his lower half and you know doesn't really great me kind of egos to the bed there's a bathroom in the the small room he goes to the bathroom he comes out he lays on the massage table I start to give him massage he's he's nice enough he says where are you from and I tell him I'm from Texas and he seems happy with that kind of tickled for some reason and and then I proceeded to give him massage and then as time went on he began to sexually abuse me and I'd like to not go into the details of course and that went on for about 25 minutes and then he got up and left as if nothing had happened but he had given me money before he left the room and a few minutes later the maid came and knocked on the door and and then she took me out of the house and that was it did you feel when he was moving this from being a massage to an assault that you had any choice was there any way for you to escape like I said once that door shut I didn't know where it was and this man's presence was so intimidating that even if I had tried to I don't think that I could have I don't think that I could have look it's hard to it's hard to talk about just in retrospect but when you realize in the moment you know we talk about fight or flight you know when you're threatened a lot of times you don't talk about the third element of that which is freeze which is the most common and when you freeze you don't know how to process what's going on right now physically or mentally what kind of phrase is what he used to defend do you think in his own mind what was what he was doing wouldn't when he stopped making it a massage what was the excuse she gave there was no excuse oh it was very routine there was a whole strategy to it it was a well-oiled machine at that point there was no excuse he did what he wanted lycée you've been on the forefront of helping women especially years after they've been abused make peace of what happened why is it so typical that it takes 15 years to process this well the law recognizes the psychology which is it always takes generally decades for a young victim to understand fully that she was a victim we filed Kiki's case under a sex trafficking law even though she was over the age of 18 she was tricked into a commercial sex act and that's essentially what happened she goes for one purpose thinking I'm gonna give him a massage I'll get a couple hundred dollars no problem and instead she's sexually assaulted it's like a casting couch situation and that's considered sex trafficking under the law so it doesn't surprise me at all that Kiki took you know 15 years many people take 30 years 40 years they never fully process it but thank God Kiki did I'm sorry we went through that we'll be right back we're back with one of Jeffery Epstein's accusers Kiki and her attorney at least abloom so let's go to keep the lawsuit a little Kiki and again I applaud you for fighting for your right to be heard but also try to deal not just with Epstein because he dealt with it himself in a way but but you know but the bigger reality there's there's a because you know a bunch of people who supporting him enablers at best coco spirit errs and criminals at worst so you've named him one su-ro who is this woman that recruited you did you ever see her again or describe if you can to me what it was like if you had seen her what you would have said I think that I wouldn't have I wouldn't have contempt you know if I hadn't met with her in the past because again I'm strolling us mindset in this mentality that nothing illegal happened to me nothing abnormal happened to me it didn't feel right but it was no cause for you know what I realize now it was incredible trauma that totally altered my life path I helped me understand that unpack that a bit did you feel that way because you thought you were partly personally culpable because you walked in the room yeah of course of course and that you'll you'll see that that's probably very common with many victims and and I I could not tell you where that feeling comes from but it's all-consuming because it's humiliating it's degrading it's humiliating it's shameful it's shameful it's a you know in your mind at the time to allow someone to violate you like that but when in reality you didn't have that power to say no you didn't have that power to fight so so su-ro the woman who is the recruiter which is a fictitious fictitious name sorry thank you yeah she did contact you one more time afterwards I'm told she contacted me about a day or two afterwards and said Geoffrey really likes you that's her for me to even say that name Geoffrey really liked you a lot he'd like to see you again he's gonna be out of town travelling for a couple of weeks but I'll set something up when he gets back when he returns and of course by that time I would have had what I call my nervous breakdown though my therapist says there's no such thing as the nervous breakdown my inability to function like a normal person and yeah the impact was devastating I soon after lost my job I've fired I didn't want to leave my house I couldn't talk to people I couldn't sleep I turned to substance abuse and that's been a struggle I had a lot of suicidal thoughts I went into a very manic depressive state anxiety agoraphobia I couldn't leave the house I couldn't even talk to my parents my parents had no idea what had happened to me what was going on and I couldn't tell them I couldn't find out my heart to tell them it was just so shameful and yeah it completely derailed my life it he took that day he took my spirit and he broke it and it's taken me a long time to get it back because you know when you think about it from a victim standpoint it's I'm the one that went into the house but at the same time I had no idea was expecting that that was gonna happen to me there's two things that you just brought up I want to come back to the first we were you shocked that Jeffrey Epstein thought it was a good time or was happy with you I mean that's sort of a stunning thing for the recruiter have told you afterwards and he had no insight that he'd hurt you that he's stolen your soul your spirit I don't know that it's shocking because I honestly I'm not sure that he had a conscience in the short time that I was face-to-face with him and then hearing about all the things that happened afterwards I I think that he didn't think about other people and so to him it probably was a good time because it satisfied his impulses or his urges so whatever however the other person or other victim was feeling it didn't matter because it was all about him and it satisfied what he needed and that's all it mattered everyone was disposable to him expendable and that recruiter she texted you hmm did you respond I don't recall responding I think at that point I was so despondent and still trying to process what had happened and confused and you know turn fearly what do I do now and the reason that I had that breakdown was because I didn't know what to do I didn't know what to do or even how to function like a regular person yeah coming up Tiki is revealing the psychological damage she says her alleged assault by Jeffrey Epstein continues to inflict on her today we'll be right back we're back with Kiki and Lisa bloom and were taking a turn to talk about her recovery from this trauma we bring in Kiki's therapist Janice Stephenson they could get for joining us to be I see your work in progress here I mean remarkably remarkably profound insights I'm learning it's a thank you say that her actions and what happened immediately after this trauma are very telling mm-hmm in what way a lot of what she described immediately afterwards is that frozen and withdrawal state because what makes something trauma dramatic is that your mind can't take it in something has happened to you this beyond comprehension beyond belief and your brain just get stuck there your mind gets stuck there trying to figure it out so this process that started when the maid shut the door continues and that's what we're working through give you what's been like given sitting here going through these memories it's terrifying it's reach Ramat izing it's as if it's as if it's as if you're going through it again this is the best way that I can describe it it's surreal you don't believe that something like that could happen to you and it's yeah it's not any fun it's not any fun that therapeutic to share it you know in your therapists office not an not initially it's a process it's a total process and it's still I'm still dealing with then it's still trauma that affects me every single day of my life but it's a process and it has gotten better but I have a long way to go well if it matters at all I'm very very proud of you yeah it does you've done something that item a Jinnah be difficult and you've dealt with the amazing grace' delegates thank you and she has no appreciation how articulate she is talk to a lot of people right oh you get bored of what you're doing now composed to talk show these I also get angry I hear this story and yeah I mean the depth of damage done by Jeffrey Epstein is one issue but then the fact that he was never really held accountable mm-hmm and then at the very end be worried she was gonna go on how is that possible how can people have been put through so much Kiki and others some others that you're helping and yet this man was walking around yeah and we know from news reports this began in the 1980s and continued all through the 1990s up to Kiki in 2004 and then beyond that and finally this year it looked like the criminal authorities were going to hold him accountable and then he took his own life and so I have filed this lawsuit on behalf of Kiki and another victim and we're talking to another dozen victims as well about potentially joining because we want the estate to do after his death what he failed to do during his life which is recognize the victims understand their pain give them full and fair compensation for what you've done you know look what Kiki's telling us about her life and how it was derailed and she gave up modeling she gave up the city of New York her life was completely altered you know we deserve some justice for Kiki and the other victims and I'm confident that we're gonna get it in the civil lawsuits let's talk about these co-conspirators because that's the part of the puzzle that bothers me so much that people could look the other way you know this year's very much about the power of one and you're a one and there are many other brave women and men doing the same thing but there's lots of folks who don't just hide in the shadows the aid and abet evil what would you say to those co-conspirators because they will be listening to the show I hope so I certainly hope so I think that they know what they've done it would be hard not to but I would say that you know what amount of money was worth it for you to look at to be complicit and also that do you know with young women people in general but young women and girls even in some situations are not disposable we're not disposable we're human beings we have feelings and we're people and now I'm a mother I've always been a daughter and I'm a wife and I'm a human being and thank God that I got through this and you know what when you come forward there is this sort of catalyst that happens where you become a victim you start as a victim and then you become a survivor and so the confidence that it gives you when you do come forward is tremendous and I would not be you like your work I love what I do for a living a truly honored to do and I say that to her all the time it is a blessing to work with her I can't possibly know what I'm talking about who you just say that right least of what your hopes what's I bet it's obviously what does justice look like in this civil courts because we're not gonna get at the Criminal Courts at least which every Epstein although maybe for the co-conspirators as an opportunity so it's not just what I hope it's what we're going to make happen we filed the lawsuit and we demand justice it is time it is overdue for the Jeffrey Epstein victims he left behind a very substantial estate my opinion is it should go entirely to the victims but at least in an amount proportionate to what they've suffered you know you can have one incident like happened to Kiki and have tremendous emotional fallout we need to recognize the emotional pain the suicidality the lost income the medical bills of therapy bills everything that victims go through it is time for that and I'm confident that we're gonna get it whether it's in the US Virgin Islands where he was very clever to have as a state file down there if we have to pursue him down there fine here in New York wherever it is we are not giving up on behalf of these victims he may have escaped it on the criminal side he's not going to escape it in death on the civil side you know you you're here in Parkers you saw other victims come forward there are many many many more sitting at home suffering and pain the way you have been in so our what do you have to say to them oh I would say that one I'm sorry that happened to you no one deserves to go through something like that but to that you you don't know how strong you are until you actually take action and come forward or until you're actually forced to be strong and there are so many resources out there now you'd be surprised at how people react to a situation like this and you think that it's shameful and you think that people are gonna perceive you differently but you'd be surprised at the empathy that you get and the the newfound support that you really need to start changing your life for the better and to start healing you know because again it's a process but there are people out there to help you and you were strong enough to do it if I'm strong enough to do it anyways well you're a voice for openness and transparency and clarity in a very cloudy arena god bless you thank you so much dr. eyes thank you thank you thank you this is always time to join us if you or someone you care about was the victim of sexual abuse or saw please call the national sexual assault hotline we have their content information at dr. oz calm and I'll put it on the screen we'll be right back be sure to subscribe to my channel so you don't miss anything and remember to check back often to see 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Length: 21min 14sec (1274 seconds)

Published: Fri Nov 15 2019