The Failures of Feminism & How Smashing the Patriarchy Has Destroyed Us with Carrie Gress

[Music] I'm Emily raquette and you're listening to the amplify Show episode number 83. hello everyone it's so good to be back on the show it took a little break to soak in a full Michigan summer we packed so much fun in if you're not from Michigan then this is a little secret for you you need to visit sometime just take a look at a map you see all that fresh water completely surrounding the state and all those Lakes within it there's nothing like it it's worth the trip and I say that having not been everywhere I'll admit having not been to many places actually but maybe that's why because why would I relieve in the summer at least now winter is a different story but I'm really going to try hard this year to lean into it and I have an episode coming up that dives into the power of getting outside year round no matter where you live or the struggles you face bundling up little ones I'm doing this episode because I need it and maybe some of my mom friends out there need it too I have a surprise lined up so stay tuned for that now here's a quick update before I dive into today's long-awaited episode I teased this a couple months ago so many been waiting for it the guest is so so good but first if you didn't know I'm launching a doll brand that's right after the most popular doll brand for young girls American Girl decided to sell girls everywhere the lie that maybe they're living in the wrong body and they go as far as to suggest that they could get puberty blockers to delay their body's normal healthy female process because maybe they discover that they're in fact a boy living in a girl's body that's right the American Girl brand claims this it's all outlines in a book they released last year about body image now if you want to see for yourself check out my Instagram at faithfriendsco I have a highlight that shows the more than 20 pages of pro-transgender indoctrination and I'll do a whole episode about that soon but if you'd like to get on the wait list to get one of the very first Faith friends 18-inch dolls that beautiful heirloom quality dolls that Foster creativity virtue and Faith they have a custom Journal I'm designing by hand with special accessories and classic wholesome Styles then head on over to faithfriendsco.com the pre-sale will be launching really soon and if you're listening to this in August or September then yes hop over quickly because the pre-sale is only going to be open for a little bit and I can't wait to offer this much needed Christian alternative for girls everywhere okay now this actually sets up today's episode quite nicely today we're talking about feminism and the modern derailed feminist movement in particular a few years ago I started to question everything that culture says about being a woman especially media shows magazines popular books and the self-help authors and gurus of our time celebrities pop culture I kind of had this big Awakening to it I started to realize that maybe I fell for a bunch of Lies myself and now of course I see it everywhere it's really escalated to the point where we have some of the top brands for women and girls proactively pushing harmful agendas like the one I just talked about which is why I'm launching the doll brand but before it was even that obvious like just a few years ago before people were even debating and asking what is a woman it's hard to believe how quickly this is really derailed I started to wonder how did we go as a culture as a society of women from a place where we embraced our unique god-giving gifts to Bear children to have empathy to nurture to teach our children children and love our husbands and lead in our homes and yes also lead outside of our homes for some but that wasn't a focus and certainly not the badge of success it is today homemaking was seen as just honorable but normal to this place where women are now encouraged to put their focus on success outside of their families and homes and even to the detriment of their families and homes abortion is not only offered as a choice for women but is viewed as basic health care depression is at an all-time high men have infringed upon historically women-only spaces like women's bathrooms and sports and prisons and beauty pageants with the word Miss in them and this is all applauded by our biggest government and corporate entities now even for women who want to stay home they struggle because we live in an economy that pretty much requires two incomes to support a family and I've wondered how do we get to this place and more importantly what can we do to fix it to get back home so to tackle these questions we're talking to Cary grass I started reading some of her books on these topics a couple years ago and I'm really excited to have her on the show she's a fellow at the ethics and public policy Center a scholar at The Institute for human ecology at Catholic University of America she's a married mother of five and the co-editor of the popular women's magazine Theology of home she's authored 10 books many of which tackled the subject of feminism her latest book out now is called the end of woman how smashing the patriarchy has destroyed us and to back up this big claim I'm just going to read right from the book recap here Carrie share is how 50 years of radical feminism have solidified the Primacy of the traditional male sphere of life and devalued the attributes virtues and strengths of women feminism the ideology dedicated to smashing the patriarchy has instead made male lives the norm for everyone after 50 years of radical feminism we can't even Define woman in this powerful new book Carrie grass says what cannot be said feminism has abolished women well I'd say that sums it up pretty nicely so with that let's dive into the interview but yes it's so great to finally talk with you I know we connected last fall and you were in the thick of writing what I believe is this book yeah right I was doing it was always under a deadline how many books is this number 10 or number 11. Glenn yeah this is number ten yep exactly so wow and yes finally uh coming out so yeah it's they're really exciting Carrie for people who don't know you give us a little bit of your background and why or I guess how you've come to this point of of writing books and articles and being interviewed on topics of the modern feminist movement and especially a lot of uh the downfalls and the consequences that we're suffering because of it tell us a little bit about who you are yeah um well I I five children I have a PhD in philosophy and when I was a philosophy student I said I would never work on women's issues um it was just something I had no interest in and I think part of the reason I didn't have any interest in it was because it felt like um just way too academic you know it was the arguments I was reading that that were being written uh within Catholic circles just felt inaccessible and I wanted something that I could give to my friends I could give to my family and help them navigate a lot of the issues that we're dealing with today and um I just wasn't finding things that I wanted to share and so I think that was probably a lot of my you know my negative reaction and knee-jerk reaction to it and then I became a mom and um you know one of the first books that I wrote was it was called ultimate makeover uh the transforming power of motherhood I think is the subtitle of it and I you know I just really realized that motherhood is this amazing thing where you grow in virtues in ways that you would you probably could never do on your own unless you had the demands of of children in your life and um you know I always I tell the story about how I always had this sense of um like things are going to be easier next week it's going to get easier it's going to get easier and um of course it didn't it didn't get easier um you know you get to his age where that it does get easier but um you know was whether it was cold or potty training or you know you name it there was just felt like there was always something and um I realized like wow this is actually like not a flaw this is a feature of motherhood is this way that I'm being formed and and my virtues are growing and I'm becoming more patient and more compassionate and all of those things so anyway that was really what started it and then of course I started digging into um the Virgin Mary I wrote the book The Marion option and um so this has just kind of flowed out of it because I started realizing like looking around at the culture and just seeing how bad things are you know that there's just not a ounce of um really Christian morality left for women and I wanted to know why and then I wrote the anti-mary exposed um and you know I had so many people say we love this book and you please write something for um Protestants or for a secular audience and so this was really supposed to be that kind of book um but I had never looked back at early feminists I had the antimatter exposed I only looked back to the 1960s and so when I started looking back in earlier feminism that's when I really um dug into this book so that's kind of been the journey and um you know I've just been amazed at the books that I've written haven't been written before that you can't find this kind of argument in other places um and I know a lot of it is because people have jobs and they don't want to be fired I guess that's the beauty of not having a day job is um you know I can't really be fired from my wife as a stay-at-home mom or my my job as a stay-at-home mom yeah well when you keep it ordered like that but I will say it is still Brave of you it's not always comfortable maybe now you've been doing it for so long but for many of us what's happened it was just yesterday there's a situation where my parents have moved to a more conservative area and my mom joined the local Facebook group and she called me and she said Emily what's going on I thought this was supposed to be more conservative area I see the school board meeting last week they voted to keep a book with sexually explicit material they couldn't even read the material at the school board meeting it was so sex sexually explicit yet it was like six to one or something they're keeping the book and I looked at the Facebook comments and that was the most disheartening is seeing the attacks on the mother that came forward about the book and I wanted to say something about it and I still had to pause to be like wait Emily even though I've seen the images of my own eyes I've read parts of the book I still had to think wait am I crazy right now because we're living in a time when not only are not many people I mean it's happening more which is a good thing but not many moms are speaking out against us far more are staying silent who I know don't want books like this in school libraries but it still made me stop and pause and have to find a little bit of the courage to just make a post about it to say I think our standard at a minimum should be if you cannot read the material at the school board meeting it should not be in the school library not a controversial statement it should not be um so I am really grateful though for women and authors like you who are kind of Paving this path writing these books really opening these conversations and topics because it's so needed it doesn't seem like it should be hard and I thought that last night I thought the reason I can make this post is because I don't have a job to be fired from but yeah there are clients I can lose their um their friends I could lose or you know they're still it's still a little bit of a of a fear but if you keep your life ordered you're right the most important roles in our life as a daughter of Christ and as a mother and wife like we can't lose those for just speaking truth so I do appreciate that but no I and that's true I know with this book actually we've had to you know that the ante has been raised a little bit because now we have to worry about doxing and you know I I think before my books have been under the radar enough and and the anti-meric pose was canceled but I didn't have to worry about my children and people showing up at my home and that those kinds of things and so that that's going to be the interesting thing to see what happens with this book as far as just feeling secure and you know will I need security is going to speaking events and those kinds of things that you see other people doing you know similar things that that's really become that you know the nature of it so it'll be interesting to see how how it's all received it may may might get no attention whatsoever but um that that tends to be how the the liberal media deals with things they either ignore it or they ridicule it um so I'm kind of braced for both at this point cool because then at least it's getting out there more right I really hate when they ignore a great topic per book well okay so is this a secular book for this this topic mostly it looks like I was reading a little bit of this it's a secular book um yeah no I think that's a great question it's absolutely a secular book and I really just dig into really this philosophical underpinnings of the feminist movement all the way back to Mary wallstone craft and sort of extract from it you know what are what are the patterns here that we're seeing throughout feminism what is it that we can actually call the feminist movement based on these patterns that we see Rippling through the movement for you know 200 years um yeah and so it was very easy to do that and you know a secular light very much from just basic philosophy and um yeah it was I was astounded I hadn't dug into any of this kind of content before and I was just amazed at how um just how awful it really is you know I think I had had this impression a lot of people have said oh you know the movement was hijacked in the 60s and so I was expecting to find you know it's a lovely work about women and um it's just not what's there there I mean I think some things were amped up a lot in the 60s and things changed in the 60s um but I don't think that the basic movement changed all that much I think you you know and that's what the book demonstrates is we it starts with these three pillars which are um the occults free love and this this idea of restructuring society which is of course um become the Smashing the patriarchy those are there from almost the very beginning and we just see them sort of grinding on throughout the centuries and um now of course in full bloom so much so that yeah and the basic question they were asking was how do we make women like men not how do we help women as women but how do we make women more like men right and that's really what we're seeing the fruition of today with the you know elimination of the female body and you know the incapacity of most of us to be able to describe or Define what a woman is um that's really been there from the start so this is the real fulfillment thereof so that was the amazing thing to like see this whole thread you know from start to finish and this is where we're at at the end of the the movement that you know the Pinnacle of it in their minds yeah I hope near the end of the book you have the solution for it all because I do see section four you have four sections the first is the Lost Girls then the Mean Girls the no girls which were in the no girl zone right now and then the fourth section though I feel hopeful because it says the way home I'm just going to assume you have all the solutions there and we are going to see those play out over the next decade or Century it's going to take a wild reversal yes um but let's first get to the core of the issue I do think there are listeners of this show who don't necessarily agree with um my values or my viewpoint it's really interesting so I kind of did a switch on my whole show about a year ago it was a really show for business women entrepreneurs it was more of a bit of a like hustle show and now it's become the anti that I would say um as I have grown in what I've just realized about life about the feminist movement about why I wasn't on why I wasn't happy even though I grew the type of business I was supposed to be growing and had the extra help and support at home doing the job that really I was supposed to be doing which was like raising my children and being there for my family so I was doing all those things realized I was really unhappy so um with that it's the amazing thing is I think I still have people listening who don't necessarily subscribe to the same viewpoints as me which I think is great so let's um start there and let's get to the heart of the issue if we've had all these advances in the feminist movement I mean surely people can look back and say we have come a long way the feminist movement has really grown then why aren't women happier you have a statistic you shared in an article you wrote actually a few years back I think it was a couple years back so I don't know how old the statistic is but at the time is 50 of white liberal women under the age of 30 have some type of mental health issue 50 and that's an astounding figure and how happy we should be yeah I think that's one that has been one of my motivating factors has been to see like well what's happened with women are we actually happier because of all these these advances and everything that's happened um and I I'm I'm fascinated by the fact that we aren't you know you um the depression rate among women is just through the roof uh you've got STDs you've got suicide rates divorce all of these things are really pointing to women who aren't happy and that's what the data continually is showing is that we're less happy now than we were apparently back in the 70s and and prior to you know when we were supposed to be so miserable um I you know and I think one of the the main objections that I hear most the time is you know you should be grateful for feminism because you have the right to vote an advanced degree you work you know all those kinds of things and I'm always fascinated by this question because it makes me realize how much we have come to believe that it was only feminism that brought these things to us instead of it just being basic Justice or natural law and without the problem is not recognizing like how much damage has come because of the way that feminism promoted these things you know there's a way to say like women need to be educated um women need to vote you know all of that without saying you have to have free love you have to involve the cult and you have to um want to completely restructure Society um and you know I think we also the other thing also sort of get that gets you know shoved under the carpet really is just the the abortion numbers too um if you look at the number of lives that have been taken through abortion it absolutely dwarfs any of the the tyrants of the 20th century Hitler Stalin Pol Pot Mao all of them um the numbers are absolutely astounding I think the guttmacher Institute is speculating that they'll there were 73 million abortions in the world and just just last year um there's 69 million people that live in England so imagine the whole United Earth in the United Kingdom imagine the whole United Kingdom being wiped out that's the number that of abortions that we're having in the world now that's not to say that abortions weren't happening beforehand um before abortion was legalized but you know 73 million babies um and that's got all kinds of effects I mean this is where the the depression statistics are coming from we know that that these an abortion doesn't leave people unscarred either biologically or emotionally or um or otherwise spiritually certainly um so I think that those are the things that we have to start paying attention to and just asking why why do why did all these other bad things have to come and is it really worth the price um that we've paid for these things that we're we're enjoying now and and why do we have to feel grateful that all these bad things came into the culture as well um so it's those kinds of questions I think we really need to start looking at and asking yeah I I love reading your books because I learned so much as someone who wasn't raised with these beliefs or to even look at to take a step back and to look at the situation I think that's why I'm so passionate about it now because I think had I been in a situation with an unplanned pregnancy um in not ideal circumstance I think everyone around me would it would have been completely acceptable and probably encouraged I'm guessing to use abortion as a solution to that and um it's wild to me because I was raised with a in a very loving environment very wonderful people and I don't um it's it's they're not to blame for this mentality but it wasn't until just the last 10 years that I opened my eyes the idea that wait this isn't normal it is not is this healthy when a society makes a woman think her power is in killing the child that can grow a roadside like why is that where we're receiving our power um that's and it's kind of crazy because there are so many people like me that were raised in very nurturing loving households and this was just kind of ingrained in us just from the culture we kind of absorb the culture that's around us which I think is why I'm so passionate about where the media is going where big corporations are going all the propaganda we don't realize we're being fed these lies from a really young age I mean now it's really compounded even with Children's shows um but if you look at like handmaid's tale it's just inner popular culture and seeping in these thoughts then you look at all these companies that are using men as their spokespeople and their companies that are supposed to represent women so our iconic brands that are doing that even our own president affirming a a trans man or a self-affirming transmit I don't know if it's trans man or trans woman I can't keep all of this straight but basically a man who's living as a woman if you just seal of that and you don't have an influence in your life who will say this isn't right this isn't the truth this is wrong you will just absorb that and assume it's right because you're seeing it everywhere and so my question is is how do we get people like me who Like Me Maybe a decade ago who didn't have these influences in their life that would say well that's not actually right because we all kind of live in our own Bubbles and mostly I think we absorb the content and the ideas and from people similar to us how do we even consider breaking out of that and like what questions should we be asking ourselves because I'm the first to admit like I don't follow a lot of liberal media and thought leaders because they they would really annoy me I would that would drive me crazy quite frankly so I assume people who think differently than me are the same way they might not want to pick up your book because they just already know they don't agree with it it would be a very pleasant book for them to read but where can we start in asking questions or creating conversations that just plant those seeds yeah yeah well I think you know this has been a problem for a long time this is why feminism has been so successful because it has figured out very very early on how to brainwash us um even if you just think about the way that they not only have defined their position but they've defined what they want people to believe is the pro-life position this is why the handmaid's tale is brought out this is why every time there's some controversy you've got those women in their red Bonnets and cloaks um because they want us they want the world to think oh well this is what we're opposed you know they've created this binary of here's one side and here's the other side um but the other side that they've created isn't actually us this is that's their like fabricated us because it looks it's a straw man it looks very easy um to feed that to defeat that and to to debunk it um so this is yeah I think what your that question is just really the hardest question and this is one of the things that I've talked about for years now is we haven't provided like an off-ramp to the popular culture for other women to start even asking the question maybe this all this stuff I believe for so long isn't actually making me happy and I think or you're you know one of the areas where I'm seeing a lot of um people being open to this are the women who have gone through feminism they're now 50 60 70 years old and they're like I did everything that I was supposed to do that the feminist movement told me to do and I'm miserable I don't have parents I don't have a husband I don't have children I've got a great bank account but that's what else do I have in my life and you know it's at that point where they can't go back and change they can't start having children now you know they're not probably not going to get married um so I think it's it's one of those things that it it you know we need to start asking questions we need to start looking more deeply we need to start saying you know even the trans thing is just an amazing piece to me because of how quickly it's it seemed to come on and everybody's sort of like of course this is natural whereas you know 10 years ago everybody would have been like what are you talking about you know just to see how quickly things have are being absorbed and and even just the moving of the yardstick um you know if we think about what the conversations that we're having with around the time same-sex marriage was um you know approved in this the Supreme Court um these are very different conversations that we're having now and just to see how far things are and quickly things are progressing I think that those are the kinds of things that need to give us pause and also just even the damage that we're doing I mean that's amazing part about the transition issue especially with children is this is irreparable damage this isn't something that they can just be like well we're you know we're gonna unpause the puberty blockers like that's the biggest lie there is there's so much damage that's happening to the body um because of that that isn't can't be undone um you can't put New Bright functioning breasts back on a girl when she decides oh this I don't want to do this anymore and now I want to have children um so I think this is that this the saddest and the hardest part is just to see how quickly it's accelerating and how incredible the damage is so I'm I'm hoping that you know those are the kinds of things that are beginning to raise the questions and people are beginning to say what is going on here you know and start really paying attention I think we're seeing a lot of that that um you know the giant has been poked one too many times um whether it's Target or Bud Light and people are just tired of the how how extreme things have gotten so quickly yeah and maybe that's for the best that it has a stream this year because I think it is waking some people up to it because like you said it's really damaging when all of these moms get on board with it and think about we just had a bookshelf painted in our basement and I came home and the house had been you know all shut up and it was very strong fumes and I opened all the windows and the door and I had a fan going and last night I looked at my husband I'm like do you think this fumes are still too strongly do you think we've done damage of having our kids breathe this in today I worry about like we worry about such little things or what our kids are eating is it organic are there pesticides well imagine by simply affirming and supporting that this is a at all sane idea to give children puberty blockers imagine the irreversible damage to these poor children because we are contributing to a culture where that's just okay and I want to point out so I don't know if I told you about this in any of my emails um did you hear about American Girl doll like the doll company what happened so last year oh no yeah they put on a book on body image iconic brand right American Girl is the name of the brand right and they have apparently I didn't know they got into this smart girls guide they they apparently became a thought leader in how children how young girls should address puberty like I guess they don't just stick to dolls I didn't know that um but they put out a series of these books this book has a whole section well this is one on gender joy and it's about how you could be born a girl and and actually be a boy and it you know affirms here's a picture of the little kid at the doctor's office if you're not sure it says here um if you haven't gone through puberty yet the doctor might offer medicine to delay your body's changes giving you more time to think about your gender identity and if you've already gone through Beauty a doctor can still help it eventually goes on to say if you don't have a parent you can trust there are other resources and places you can go to to have this conversation not only that there are multiple story lines there's a girl in here who is deaf Jewish and trans and let's talk about why she might be those things but she's so much more than that and just weaving in there's probably about four storylines where they just weave in the person is the kid is also trans right it says American Girl doll and we have our biggest companies targeting children doing this so the target the Kohl's the the clothing line Target yeah I I actually know someone works for corporate Target who told me well we didn't actually sell these for children the the multi-gender tuck swimsuits since I said oh no it's in my app I went to my app screenshot it showed if we're starting at four years old so even people who work at these companies don't always know this um well that's why by the way I'm creating my own Dial line I'm making my own doubt this isn't the this is like a pudding yeah it launches in about a month it's called Faith friends it's going to be the Christian alternative to American Girl that actually celebrates girls the girls that God that's fun I will have to like I might need help on writing future books because apparently you got to really get into the books with these thank you thanks yeah I feel like we just need this is gonna be like my little contribution but I think as more companies are denying the truth of who women are and who girls are we are going to almost need people to step up and fill in these gaps and offer an alternative because it's not acceptable to it's like we're having to tiptoe around kids shows and kids books having I had to have conversations with my seven and eight-year-olds that I shouldn't have had to have at this point but I was it was forced upon me by the culture um so I guess now what's your advice for for moms that are seeing all this and we're we're not happy with it how do we how how can we be a part of this way home yeah I think um you know I I congratulations I love your idea of doing the dolls I I'm so heartened by that because I think yeah the other thing that's so amazing to me is just all these stories that we don't hear because we're so busy hearing about the trans athletes and um you know where everything's sort of filtered through glorious Steinem and all of these you know Meghan Markle like these are being upheld as the kind of women that we we should want to be um and yet this there's so many amazing beautiful Rich stories of women that are just not being told um and so anyway that's it's incredibly heartening to see that you will be telling some of these stories um in a way that we don't have to tiptoe around or feel like we you know like oh I'm spending my money there really you know um and I think that's part of it is just creating that and this is one of the reasons why I've created my own brand Theology of home we sell candles and lifestyle products because I saw all of the issues that we were facing were coming because they were populated in magazines they're in fashion they're in Hollywood they're in music they're in lifestyle Brands you know all of this look at Gwyneth Paltrow's scoop um and we're not putting things out there with our own messaging in them we're not paying attention to how important culture is we're not paying attention to how important something in your hands that you can hold on to and you can give as a gift these are all really important things especially to women and we we are not paying attention to them so you know I can make arguments all day long in my books but if I can actually you know through our books Theology of home I can tell a story through beautiful visuals that people want to actually look through and you know they just sit down and start thumbing through a book like that that's going to go a lot further than you know my best crafted intellectual arguments um I think for most people because we're not really dealing with the Age of Reason anymore we're very much emotions and visuals and I think those are really important things to do um the other thing that you know is obviously really important is is creating strong families and you know living out our vocation as women sort of figuring out what that even means and trying to wash out in our own lives you know there's different ways in which we have really bought into what the movement is trying to do to us in in terms of you know whether it's the Deep narcissism that we have the sense that our children's lives are secondary to our lives um that our husbands are unimportant they're just sort of supposed to be support role but not really important and you know all of these different ways um that we need to sort of sort of start thinking about our lives as as women again and what it means to be a woman and you know the last chapter of my book I actually talk a lot about like how do we even Define Womanhood and you know the big piece is always missing is just even this notion of motherhood and I don't mean just biological motherhood you know we see even in religious sisters I think they're such a great example of psychological and spiritual motherhood and this is what they've done for centuries whether it was orphanages or hospitals or education um you know they're providing a place for children to really grow into who they are um and I I think we need to start looking at those areas but also passing that down to our daughters helping our own Sons understand that helping them understand they're not just you know these secondary toxic masculinity you know capsules waiting to be launched into the culture to destroy it you know all of these kinds of things need need tweaking and the great thing is is that when we start digging into it there's a lot of Joy there's a lot of beauty there's a lot of um just goodness that that comes from it instead of like I feel like so much of the culture right now feels grinding and painful and bitter and um and vicious and um you know that's the real surprise is to see what happens when you're working within human nature the way that God intended it then good things happen instead of you know the kind of pressure and tyranny that we're we're all facing at the moment yeah that's you're talking earlier about the off-ramps where we find those off-ramps I think for a lot of us it certainly was for me toward the year of 2020 was a forced off-ramp that was such a gift it kind of forced me to have to stop or slow down my business and then the my it's like the light was there I was like wait this is actually easier life can be easier if I yeah step into my role truly as a mother and a wife and I don't try to strive to be an equal earner or success and there are just certain things that are planted these feminist ideas are planted as little seeds in our mind from a young age that can become really toxic and make us very unhappy and like you said when you're describing these women who are now seeing the fruits or the lack of those fruits now later in life and it's too late to change it that makes me so sad and I'm so grateful that I discovered that when I did because it absolutely changed our lives forever I mean I ended up we had two more children and and it felt so much easier and happier I mean I love all my children but I've been a much better mother for the second two and a much more present happy woman and then I was in the beginning when I was trying to do it all and um I I really do hope we can find other off ramps that aren't as forced in that way and I do think these types of conversations books like you're writing and articles are key to that definitely yeah and I I think that's just it even just sharing with the women around in your life too having conversations about this and not being shying away from it from your immediate group of friends I I think is really important it obviously can be uncomfortable but I think the great thing is is that what we're presenting is really the desire of the human heart we just don't know it we sort of have to just dust off women's Hearts like your experience and help women actually see like no wait this is actually really what you've been looking for um is this idea of seasons of Life of certain things have to happen at this time of your life and then you know everything sort of becomes ordered when you see it that way instead of trying to do everything all at once and feeling like a failure that you can't possibly do all of these things well simultaneously um so I think that's a beautiful thing is is you know whether it's book groups or um just friendships or family these These are the ways in which I've seen the women who really understand this um have found an off-ramp through friendships and and people that are in their lives I mean my my off ramp came because I grew up in Oregon and I went to the University of Oregon and I saw a lot of these things are happening now we're happening there much much earlier and I didn't have a response to them and I but I knew that this was misery making and the the things that were being suggested were not great I was I had a grandmother who was very involved in the occult I you know the hookup culture was just beginning and I just saw none of this is really working like there's got to be a different way and you know thankfully I was raised as a Catholic very lukewarm Catholic but that was really where I started looking and thinking this has got there's got to be an answer here and um that has led me obviously to doing so much more than I ever imagined and you know talking about this issue in ways that I never dreamed of but um that I think it's exciting when you start hitting on something and realizing I'm not the only one that hates this and who wants something different and um you know once in my children's lives and my family's life all of that to look different than it is so um yeah those personal relationships I think are incredibly important for sharing this and just even asking questions I think up to people is the easiest way to approach it instead of feeling like you have to tell people things um kind of asking you know simple questions to let people start talking and share their own experience can go a long way too and you know take the pressure off of feeling like we have to evangelize or something and on this issue yeah um you mentioned the Theology of Home books I think you have three of them now right there are three different parts and I have here there's the fourth one coming out yeah oh great just keep on going keep on bringing those books out Carrie you're so good you're so good at this um I do have I didn't like okay well what I wanted to say is they are beautiful uh coffee table books and I think you're right that for some people at the beginning it's a great I I would recommend that for someone to get one of your theology of Home books put it on the coffee table just flip through it sometimes just go to the section or the page that grabs you and looks beautiful and intrigues you and just start reading a little bit here and there you just start to think about some of these Concepts a little bit let them impact you in your heart a little bit think on them and then definitely dive into one of your books now real quick you give us a rundown I know I said the Lost Girls The Mean Girls no girls the way home just tell me a little bit about the format of the book and what we're going to actually learn when we read your um so the first part is is basically just looking at all these women who have helped determine really feminist policies in in the culture um all of them to a one had just incredibly broken lives and you can see that kind of coming out of who they are and affecting the whole movement um the second part that the Mean Girls is really just what happens when you have when you put some really disordered women in um in power and you know we can see this in our own culture like think about all the women who are influential culture most of them are over 70 um which is fascinating women like um Pelosi and Hillary Clinton and um you know there's all the political people but then there's also a lot you know look at the view these are not young women um that have started the view and are are you know carrying it along at this point um and there there becomes this kind of queen bee syndrome which I think all of us as women have experienced you know but even as little girls we experience like there's the queen bee in the culture and she's right and everybody's got to follow her and um this is what we're we we've seen in the culture so much the detriment of men and to boys of course too um and then of course we've got no girls you know we went from the power struggle that was part of the the Mean Girls that's really turned into to know girls and you've got a lot of these Mean Girls here promoting this as well um this idea that you know girl little girls are gonna be better off if they have top surgeries and are taking testosterone um they're not going to commit suicide you know that's the really the big um the big lie that that you know this is where they're repetitive you don't let them get testosterone they're going to kill themselves and the statistics show that the suicides actually happen after um you know a few years after these top surgeries and and these transitions start taking place so that's really where the despair says um so and then of course the big question is well how do we get back how do we you know how do we battle this how do we deal with this um um certainly that there's always that question of God because what what's happened is this is really as Whittaker Chambers who wrote that amazing book called witness said this is the world's second oldest religion this is the idea of worshiping self and that's what we've seen with the feminist movement this is what we're seeing right now um and it's just turning away from from God entirely and that's really you know one of the chapters and then of course just how do we look at women how do we start understanding what it means to be a woman how do we start flushing this toxicity out of our systems and our the way that we think about things and start getting back to something that's really life-giving and beautiful fun and you know people want to be around and engage in instead of are um you know repulsed by um so that's kind of the the basic run of the whole book and when can we uh get it for pre-sale so it's already yeah it's already available for pre-sale at Amazon and all the places where books are sold if people want to sign copy they can pre-order one from my site theology ofhome.com um but it comes out August 15th so that's when um things will start shipping and and um anyway it'll be really interesting to see how how it comes off it's already been very well received and and getting a lot of Buzz and attention so there's another book that just came out peachy Keenan um just came out with a book called domestic extremist which is another amazing book and I feel like in a lot of ways is very complementary to what I've done different but more compliment very complimentary in terms of helping us just figure out you know why this is important on a cultural level and how do we protect our children and um our families yeah well Carrie thank you so much for having this conversation with us today and I'll be linking to where people can get your book those autographed copies and while they're at Theology of home they can probably shop around too I'm noticing just some things over your shoulder I don't know if those are like tea towels and some cameras or something but it's details yeah books and we have all kinds of great Limestone products so yes come shop with us um nothing from China we're really diligent about trying to make sure everybody work with artisans thanks so much for hanging out and listening to today's episode if you're inspired by what you heard I'd love if you shared it on social give it a five star review on iTunes and spread the word but more than being inspired I hope you're motivated to take action remember to just start take those steps today to get to where you want to be and if you're ready to take your business to the next level head on over to githappypr.com and check out my agency and what we can do for you or connect with me over on Instagram at emilyworkette that's Emily r-i-c-h-e-t-t see you next time [Music]

Channel: Emily Richett // Mama Bear Survival

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Keywords: carrie gress, emily richett, feminism, christian

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Length: 45min 4sec (2704 seconds)

Published: Mon Aug 28 2023