JONI: SO ARE YOU FALLING
FOR THE TRAP OF OFFENSE? JOHN BEVERE SHARES HOW THE ENEMY USES YOUR HURT TO KEEP YOU IN BONDAGE. BE SURE TO LIKE,
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EVER BEEN OFFENDED TO THE POINT
OF STRUGGLING TO FORGIVE THE PERSON? OH, LISTEN, WE ALL HAVE. OR MAYBE YOU'VE
BEEN OFFENDED ON BEHALF OF SOMEONE. THESE ARE COMMON
OCCURRENCES FOR ANY PERSON. BUT DID YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS A TRAP THE ENEMY IS USING TO
KEEP YOU IN BONDAGE? TODAY, WITH THE HELP
OF OUR SPECIAL GUEST, WE'RE GONNA LEARN
MORE ABOUT THAT. AND, YES, WE'RE GONNA
BE TALKING ABOUT FORGIVENESS,
UNFORGIVENESS. WE'VE ALL HAD
TO DEAL WITH IT. AND YOU WANT TO BE SURE AND STAY TUNED. ONE OF MY FAVORITE
BOOKS ON THIS SUBJECT. FIRST JOINING ME
AROUND THE TABLE IS APRIL SIMONS. HOW ARE YOU? APRIL: I AM DOING GREAT. JONI: HAVE YOU, HAVE
YOU READ THE BOOK WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT? APRIL: I'VE READ
IT SO MANY TIMES. IT'S ONE OF MY
FAVORITE BOOKS. THAT TELLS YOU SOMETHING THAT I NEEDED THAT BOOK. NO, IT'S A GREAT, IT'S
REALLY ONE OF THE GREATEST BOOKS OF ALL TIME, I THINK. JONI: IT IS SO GOOD. MOM, YOU AND I WERE TALKING EARLIER. AND, BY THE WAY, MY MOTHER
IS AT THE TABLE, EVERYONE. SANDRA TRAMMELL. SANDRA: THANK YOU. JONI: IT REALLY
IS, I MEAN, FORGIVING IS ALMOST
LIKE SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO
DAILY, DON'T WE? SANDRA: ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. AND I LOVE THIS SUBJECT. I REALLY DO. JONI: WELL, BECAUSE THERE
IS A LOT OF OFFENDED PEOPLE IN THE CHURCH THAT HAVE NOT FORGIVEN. SANDRA: AND THEY HAVE TO. JONI: YEAH. SANDRA: THEY
HAVE TO BECAUSE IT WILL AFFECT
YOU SPIRITUALLY IF YOU DON'T. JONI: YEAH, AND
EVEN PHYSICALLY. SANDRA: AND PHYSICALLY
AND EVERYTHING. THAT IS SO IMPORTANT. JONI: RACHEL LAMB
BROWN, HOW ARE YOU? RACHEL: I'M GOOD. I REMEMBER, WHEN
I WAS IN COLLEGE, OUR GUEST TODAY WENT AND SPOKE AT VICTORY
CONFERENCE ABOUT THIS TOPIC. AND SOMEBODY
GAVE ME THE CD. AND I LITERALLY
LISTENED TO THAT CD LIKE TWENTY TIMES. SO I LITERALLY HEARD
THE SERMON VERSION. I HAVEN'T READ
THE FULL WHOLE BOOK, BUT I'VE HEARD THE SERMON
VERSION SO MANY TIMES. AND IT BECAME LIKE A
FOUNDATIONAL CORE MESSAGE IN MY LIFE. JONI: OH, I KNOW
THAT WILL BLESS HIM WHEN HE HEARS ABOUT THAT. HOW ARE YOU DOING,
KENDRA KELLY DEAN? KENDRA: I'VE NEVER
BEEN OFFENDED. EVER. I'VE NEVER. YOU KNOW, THERE'S SUCH A SWEETNESS WHEN YOU
ACTUALLY SURRENDER. AND IT IS A BEAUTIFUL
MOMENT OF SURRENDER WHEN YOU FORGIVE. AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE WHAT Y'ALL JUST SAID
A WHILE AGO. I KIND OF REFER TO
IT AS CHURCH HURT. THERE'S SO MUCH
CHURCH HURT. AND IF PEOPLE COULD
JUST FORGIVE, THEN THEY COULD LEAVE
THE PAST BEHIND AND WALK IN THEIR PURPOSE AND WHAT THEIR
CALLING IS FOR TODAY. JONI: CINDY MURDOCK,
WELCOME TO THE TABLE. CINDY: THANK YOU. JONI: YOU KNOW, YOU AND
I HAVE TALKED THE LONGER THAT WE LIVE, THE MORE OPPORTUNITIES
TO FORGIVE. CINDY: OH, MANY GOODNESS. JONI: HEY, THAT WAS
PRETTY GOOD. THE LONGER WE LIVE, OPPORTUNITIES TO FORGIVE. I MEAN, REALLY LIKE
THEY'RE GONNA BE THINGS THAT HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. AND THE SOONER THAT
YOU CAN LEARN, HOW IMPORTANT IT
IS TO FORGIVE, YOU'RE GONNA BE
SO MUCH HAPPIER. CINDY: THE
BIBLE DOES SAY OFFENSES WILL COME. THEY ARE GONNA COME. IF YOU'RE ALIVE
AND BREATHING, YOU'RE GONNA GET OFFENDED. JONI: OKAY, WELL, HE'S AN
INTERNATIONAL BESTSELLING AUTHOR AND SPEAKER. AND HE'S HERE TO HELP US TALK ABOUT THIS
IMPORTANT TOPIC. PLEASE WELCOME OUR DEAR FRIEND,
JOHN BEVERE IS HERE. ♪♪ JOHN: JONI, AND LADIES. CINDY: WELCOME. JONI: WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN
STARTED ON THE TOPIC. I DON'T KNOW IF
YOU HEARD US. JOHN: I DID. JONI: TALKING ABOUT IT. JOHN: THE GREATEST HONOR WAS LISTENING TO RACHEL. RACHEL: I LISTENED TO THAT. AND I WOULD
MAIL THAT CD. AND THEN I WOULD BE LIKE, HOW DO I GET THE CD BACK? JOHN: WELL, YOU'RE
LIKE A NIECE AND TO BE ABLE TO
TOUCH YOUR LIFE MEANS SO MUCH. JONI: WELL, YOU KNOW, THE THING
ABOUT RACHEL AND MYSELF IS THAT WHEN WE
BELIEVE SOMETHING, WE WILL USE IT. THAT'S ONE THING I LOVE
ABOUT INTERVIEWING PEOPLE, LIKE JOHN, IS THAT WHEN I REALLY
BELIEVE IN THE MESSAGE THAT THEY'RE SHARING, I JUST WANT TO SHARE
IT WITH YOU GUYS. BECAUSE I WANT
YOU TO BE FREE. AND IF YOU HAVEN'T READ<i>
THE BAIT OF SATAN,</i> I TOLD HIM, HE HAS SO MANY
GREAT BOOKS. BUT THIS IS MY
FAVORITE ONE. AND I LOVE THE TITLE, BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY
WHAT UNFORGIVENESS IS. TELL US ABOUT HOW
YOU WROTE THE BOOK, THE 20TH ANNIVERSARY
EDITION, WOW. THINK ABOUT THAT. BUT, I MEAN, EARLY
ON IN MINISTRY, YOU HAD TO LEARN A LOT
OF IMPORTANT LESSONS ABOUT FORGIVING, RIGHT? JOHN: I WENT
THROUGH A LOT --
JONI: OR YOU WOULDN'T
BE SITTING HERE TODAY. JOHN: RIGHT. I WENT THROUGH A LOT OF
PAIN TO GET THAT MESSAGE. AND I'M SO
THANKFUL FOR IT WHEN I SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN SET FREE. BASICALLY, WHEN YOU
TALK ABOUT THIS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE VERY
FOUNDATION OF CALVARY. IF YOU LOOK AT JESUS, THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT WE'RE TO
FORGIVE ONE ANOTHER EVEN AS GOD FOR CHRIST'S
SAKE FORGAVE US. IF YOU LOOK THE
FATHER AND JESUS, WHEN ADAM SINNED
AGAINST GOD, COMMITTED TREASON
AGAINST HIM, GOD COULD HAVE SAID LET'S JUST GO START
ANOTHER UNIVERSE AND CREATE SOMEBODY
WHO REALLY LOVES US. LET THEM ALL GO TO HELL
WITH THE DEVIL FOREVER. YET HE CHOSE,
I MEAN, JONI, FOR THE LAST YEAR, I HAVE BECOME VERY EMOTIONAL
IN MY PRAYER TIMES. BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT WHAT JESUS LEFT FULLY KNOWING, I MEAN,
HERE IS MY CREATOR. HE LEAVES. WE CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE. MARCUS IS EXPERIENCING
IT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE CAN'T IMAGINE. AND HE COMES TO
THIS EARTH -- JONI: I'M KIND OF JEALOUS
ABOUT THAT, TOO. JOHN: I GET IT. I GET IT. I KNOW. I KEEP PRAYING LORD
JESUS COME QUICKLY. BUT THERE'S A LOT
MORE PEOPLE TO REACH, SO I UNDERSTAND
WHY WE'RE DELAYING. BUT I THINK ABOUT
WHAT HE LEFT KNOWING HE'S GONNA COME. HE'S GONNA BE SPIT ON. HE'S GONNA BE
PUNCHED IN THE FACE. HE'S GONNA HAVE HIS
BEARD PLUCKED OUT. HE'S GONNA BE SLAPPED. HE'S GOING TO HAVE
NAILS BASICALLY SHOVED INTO HIS SKULL, THOSE THORNS
ARE LIKE NAILS. HE'S GONNA HAVE A WHIP PUT ACROSS TO HIS BACK AND RIPPING HIS FLESH BECAUSE IT'S A
LEAD-TIPPED WHIP. HE'S GONNA HAVE
NAILS DRIVEN IN. HE'S GONNA BASICALLY
DRIP EVER DROP OF BLOOD. HE'S OUR CREATOR. AND HE DOES THAT
FOR ONE REASON, BECAUSE HE WANTS
TO FORGIVE US. AND YOU THINK ABOUT OH, MY GOSH, THAT'S MY CREATOR
THAT DID THAT. NOW, I THINK IF
I CAN'T FORGIVE, THEN I'VE FORGOTTEN WHAT
I'VE BEEN FORGIVEN OF. BECAUSE SOMEBODY
SAID TO ME ONE TIME, THEY SAID I'LL FORGIVE
THEM WHEN THEY APOLOGIZE. JONI: I HEAR THAT ALL
THE TIME, BY THE WAY. JOHN: DON'T WE ALL. AND THEN I SAID
TO THAT PERSON, I SAID WHAT IF JESUS
WOULD HAVE WAITED UNTIL YOU APOLOGIZED BEFORE HE FORGAVE YOU. BECAUSE WHEN
HE FORGAVE US, HE FORGAVE US
FROM THE CROSS. WHEN HE SAID, FATHER, FORGIVE THEM, THEY DON'T KNOW
WHAT THEY'RE DOING. HE WASN'T SPEAKING
ABOUT THE SOLDIERS AND THE SANHEDRIN. HE WAS SPEAKING TO
THE NEXT GENERATION, AND THE NEXT GENERATION, THE NEXT GENERATION, RIGHT DOWN TO YOU AND I. BECAUSE MY SINS,
MY REBELLION, PUT HIM ON THAT CROSS. SO MY REBELLION PUTS MY
CREATOR ON THE CROSS, AND I'M SOMEBODY THAT
DOES SOMETHING NOT NEAR AS BAD TO ME, AND I CAN'T FORGIVE THEM? BECAUSE WHAT I DESERVED, I'M JUST TALKING
JOHN BEVERE. WHAT I DESERVED IS TO
BURN IN THE LAKE OF FIRE FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER
AND EVER AND EVER AND HAVE WORMS EAT ME
FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER, THAT DON'T DIE. THAT'S WHAT I DESERVE. THAT WAS MY JUST
REWARD FOR WHAT I DID. YET, I GET FREELY
FORGIVEN FOR THAT BEFORE I EVER
SAID I'M SORRY. I'M LIKE, WHOA. NOW, I DIDN'T HAVE
THAT KNOWLEDGE, WHEN THE PERSON WHO
REALLY, REALLY WOUNDED ME, AND THAT'S WHY I STAY
TORMENTED FOR OVER A YEAR. JONI: YEAH. JOHN: LITERALLY TORMENTED. NO PEACE. YOU KNOW, I LOOK
AT PEOPLE TODAY, THEY ARE DEMANDING
THEIR RIGHTS, DEMANDING RETRIBUTION, DEMANDING ALL THIS STUFF. AND I THINK HOW SAD. THEY'RE TORMENTED. THEY'RE TORMENTED BECAUSE
THEY'VE TAKEN THE BAIT. YOU KNOW, JESUS -- JONI: AND WHAT IS
THE BAIT OF SATAN? LIKE HOW DID YOU
GET THAT TITLE? JOHN: PAUL MAKES THIS
STATEMENT TO TIMOTHY. HE SAID, HE SAID, THOSE
THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION WITH ONE ANOTHER, ARE TAKEN
CAPTIVE OF SATAN AT SATAN'S WILL. NOW HOW DID THEY GET
TAKEN CAPTIVE OF SATAN? WELL, IF YOU LOOK
AT LUKE 17:1, JESUS SAID IT'S IMPOSSIBLE
THAT OFFENSES WILL NOT COME. AND THEN HE TALKS ABOUT IF YOUR BROTHER SINS
AGAINST YOU SEVEN TIMES IN A DAY,
FORGIVE HIM. THAT'S WHEN THE APOSTLES,
BY THE WAY SAID INCREASE OUR FAITH. IN OTHER WORDS,
THEY SEE MIRACLES. THEY DON'T SAY
INCREASE MY FAITH. JESUS TELLS ME TO FORGIVE
SOMEBODY WHO HURTS ME SEVEN TIMES IN ONE DAY, I NEED MORE FAITH. CINDY: EXACTLY. JOHN: THE GREEK WORD
THAT HE USES IS THE GREEK WORD, OF
COURSE, HE SPOKE ARAMAIC, BUT THE GREEK WORD USED IS THE GREEK
WORD SKANDALON, WHICH IS ACTUALLY AN
ANCIENT GREEK WORD THAT WAS ORIGINALLY USED
TO DESCRIBE THE BAIT STICK OF A TRAP, THAT HUNTERS WOULD USE
TO CATCH SMALL ANIMALS AND BIRDS IN. THE HUNTER WOULD PLACE THE
BAIT ON THE SKANDALON, THE ANIMAL WOULD TAKE IT, AND THE TRAP WOULD CLOSE
AND EITHER CAPTURE THE ANIMAL OR KILL IT. THEREBY AN OFFENSE
IS THE BAIT OF SATAN, PUTS US THE BELIEVER INTO HIS CAPTIVITY AND THAT'S WHAT PAUL
ACTUALLY SAID TO TIMOTHY. SO I WAS CAPTIVE
FOR OVER A YEAR AND DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT. AND MOST PEOPLE
THAT ARE OFFENDED, DON'T EVEN KNOW IT. IT TAKES THE WORD
OF GOD TO EXPOSE IT. JONI: SO DID YOU THINK YOU HAD FORGIVEN
IN THAT YEAR? JOHN: I DID. [ LAUGHTER ] RACHEL: HOW DID YOU
KNOW THAT YOU HADN'T? JOHN: BECAUSE I WAS
STILL TORMENTED. JONI: I'LL TELL YOU WHY. BECAUSE YOU GET THIS... JOHN: WHEN YOU SEE THEM. OR SOMETHING GOOD
HAPPENS TO THEM, AND YOU'RE LIKE HOW... JONI: OR YOU HEAR THEIR NAME AND YOU FEEL
SOMETHING RISING UP. AND YOU'RE JUST LIKE,
OH, I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT YOU'RE REALLY NOT. JOHN: THE WORSE
THING YOU CAN DO IS DECEIVE YOURSELF. SO WHY DO YOU WANT
TO LIE TO YOURSELF? OKAY, I'M STILL OFFENDED. JONI: WHEN YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT, WHAT JESUS DID, I JUST
KEPT SEEING THE PASSION. IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THAT
MOVIE, BY THE WAY, AND YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE
FORGIVING SOMEONE, GO WATCH, BECAUSE I
THINK MEL GIBSON DID THE BEST
JOB OF SHOWING WHAT JESUS PROBABLY
WENT THROUGH FOR US. AND LIKE YOU SAID, WHEN YOU SEE THAT, OUR LITTLE OFFENSE IT PALES IN COMPARISON
WITH THE PRICE HE PAID. HOW COULD WE NOT FORGIVE? AND JESUS EVEN SAID, WHAT SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN? IT JUST SAID, FORGIVE
US OUR TRESPASSES, AS WE FORGIVE THOSE WHO
TRESPASS AGAINST US. AND THEN AFTER THAT, OR IS IT BEFORE? LEAD US NOT
INTO TEMPTATION, YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE TWO KIND OF BEING
TIED TOGETHER. SO LIKE IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING
TO DO THAT FORGIVENESS, THEN YOU'RE GONNA
BE SUSCEPTIBLE, AND YOU COULD BE
LED INTO TEMPTATION, IS THE GREATER THING. JOHN: I THINK THE
BIGGEST KEY FOR ME, I WAS SO DEEPLY
WOUNDED BY THIS PERSON THAT I WAS INJURED. AND THE SCRIPTURE THAT
REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME, THAT GOD USED TO
REALLY FREE ME WAS ACTS 24:16 WHERE PAUL SAID AND HEREIN DO I EXERCISE TO HAVE AN OFFENSE
FREE WITH GOD AND MAN. AND THE WORD EXERCISE LEAPT OFF THE PAGE, AND THE HOLY
SPIRIT SPOKE TO ME AND HE SAID THAT'S
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO. YOU NEED TO EXERCISE. AND I THOUGHT, HOW DO
YOU EXERCISE TO BE FREE FROM OFFENSE? AND I JUST HEARD
READ MATTHEW 5. AND I GO READ THE WHOLE
CHAPTER AND IT WASN'T UNTIL I GOT TO THE 44TH
VERSE THAT JESUS SAID PRAY FOR THOSE
WHO MISTREAT YOU. AND IT ACTUALLY SAYS
IN ONE VERSION, PRAY FOR THOSE
WHO ABUSE YOU. AND THE LORD SAID
PRAY FOR HIM. SO I REMEMBER THAT DAY I GOT UP AND I PRAYED AND I SAID GOD BLESS
HIM IN JESUS' NAME. THE NEXT DAY I WAS LIKE, IF YOU CAN, BLESS HIM IN JESUS' NAME. AND I PRAYED THAT WAY LITERALLY FOR FIVE WEEKS, AND I GOT NO BETTER. OKAY, SO AND YOU
THINK ABOUT EXERCISE. WHEN AN ATHLETE
BLOWS OUT A KNEE, AND HE'S RECOVERING, HE GOES THROUGH
PHYSICAL THERAPY, AND THEY DO EXERCISE, IT'S REALLY PAINFUL. I MEAN, I'VE NEVER, I NEVER WANTED TO
HIT A GIRL BEFORE, EXCEPT ONE TIME WHEN
MY SHOULDER WAS GETTING REHABILITATED, AND I ALMOST WANTED TO
HIT A PHYSICAL THERAPIST WHO WAS CREATING
EXCRUCIATING PAIN. AND I WAS LIKE,
OH, MY GOSH, OKAY, SO I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, AFTER FIVE WEEKS OF
GETTING NO BETTER, THE HOLY SPIRIT
SAID READ PSALM 35. I READ PSALM 35, AND DAVID SAID, HEY,
PEOPLE HAVE REWARDED ME EVIL FOR GOOD. BUT AS FOR ME, WHEN
THEY WERE SICK, I PRAYED FOR THEM LIKE
MY MOTHER OR MY BROTHER. AND I WENT, WHOA, AND THE LORD SAID
YOU PRAY FOR HIM WHATEVER YOU WANT ME
TO DO IN YOUR LIFE. AND I GOT UP
FROM THE TABLE, AND I STARTED PRAYING
EVERYTHING I WANTED FOR HIM. AND YOU TALK
ABOUT PAINFUL. OH, MY GOSH,
IT WAS PAINFUL. BUT I NOTICED AFTER A
COUPLE OF WEEKS OF PRAYING THIS WAY, I STARTED GETTING
MORE PASSION. AND WHAT'S HAPPENING, I'M GETTING HEALED. AND I REMEMBER ONE DAY I
JUST SCREAMED HIS NAME OUT, AND I SAID, I LOVE YOU. WHEN I DID, IT WAS LIKE JUNK
CAME OUT OF ME. AND THAT WAS THE DAY I WAS HEALED. AND SO, YOU KNOW,
THERE ARE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF BEING OFFENDED. JONI: WHAT HAPPENED
TO THAT RELATIONSHIP RACHEL: I WAS
ABOUT TO SAY
EVENTUALLY, JOHN? DID YOU EVER GO
TALK WITH HIM? JOHN: WELL, EVENTUALLY,
LISA NOTICED I STILL WASN'T COMPLETELY FINISHED. AND SHE SAID YOU
NEED TO GO TO HIM. I SAID, NO,
NO, NO, I'M HEALED. EVERYTHING IS GOOD. [ LAUGHTER ] JONI: I YELLED
HIS NAME TO GOD. JOHN: YEAH, RIGHT. SO NOW JESUS -- RACHEL: WE HAD A MOMENT. JOHN: WHEN HE TALKS
ABOUT RECONCILIATION, HE SAYS GO TO YOUR
BROTHER, RIGHT? RECONCILIATION IS
DIFFERENT THAN FORGIVENESS, AND YOU LOOK AT IT
THROUGH THE CROSS. WHEN DID JESUS
FORGIVE US, WHEN WE SAID
OR, EXCUSE ME, WHEN HE WAS IN THE CROSS, HE FORGAVE US BEFORE WE
EVER SAID I'M SORRY. BUT WE WEREN'T
RECONCILED UNTIL REPENTED AND
SAID I'M SORRY. I OFFENDED YOU,
FORGIVE ME, RIGHT? WHAT LED US TO REPENTANCE? THE GOODNESS AND
KINDNESS OF GOD. SO WHEN JESUS SAID
GO TO YOUR BROTHER, HE'S NOT SAYING YOU DID
THIS AND THIS AND THIS, BUT I FORGIVE YOU. HE'S SAYING, GO TO HIM AND CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE. BECAUSE THEN GOD CAUSES
HIS SON TO SHINE ON US AND GIVE US FOOD AND GIVE
US BLESSING BEFORE WE WERE SAVED. CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE THAT'S GONNA MAKE
HIM SAY I'M SORRY. SO I BROUGHT
THE MAN A GIFT, LIKE A CRAZY, AMAZING GIFT. JONI: IT WAS A
WATCH, RIGHT? JOHN: NO, IT WAS
ACTUALLY SOMETHING ELSE. IT WAS VERY BEAUTIFUL CRYSTAL
BOOKENDS FOR HIS LIBRARY. AND I REMEMBER -- JONI: THERE WAS ANOTHER
STORY WITH A WATCH YOU TOLD. JOHN: THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. JONI: OKAY. JOHN: I HAD TO FORGIVE ANOTHER. JONI: SEE, I REMEMBER
THAT PART. JOHN: THERE WAS
ANOTHER PASTOR. [ LAUGHTER ] JOHN: YOU DON'T
GET OVER IT ONE TIME, AND STAY FREE THE
REST OF YOUR LIFE. THIS IS SOMETHING, THERE'S
NOT JUST ONE BEAR TRAP, OKAY. A BEAR MAY RUN
INTO FIVE TRAPS. AND SO I REMEMBER I BROUGHT IT TO HIM AND HE WAS SPEECHLESS. AND I REMEMBER
OPENING UP BY SAYING I'VE BEEN REALLY
CRITICAL OF YOU, AND I'M SORRY. AND THAT'S ALL SAID. HE SAID, NO, NO, YOU
HAVEN'T BEEN CRITICAL. I SAID, OH, YEAH, I HAVE. AND IT OPENED HIM UP. AND WE TALKED FOR AN HOUR
AND WE CAME TOGETHER LIKE THIS. NOW THERE ARE TIMES
THAT PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO BE RECONCILED. THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT
DON'T WANT TO BE RECONCILED TO GOD. OKAY, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IN AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, IN YOU, LIVE PEACEABLY
WITH ALL MEN. SO YOU DO
EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO CREATE AN OPEN AVENUE. BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT JUST DON'T WANT
TO BE RECONCILED. THAT'S OKAY. YOU'VE DONE
EVERYTHING YOU COULD. GOD HAS DONE
EVERYTHING HE COULD TO REACH THAT SINNER. THEY LEAVE THIS EARTH, AND THEY END UP IN HELL. GOD DIDN'T, GOD DID
EVERYTHING HE COULD TO BE RECONCILED. RACHEL: HOW DO YOU
ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF WHAT HURT YOU, WITHOUT REHASHING
THE WHOLE THING? BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT OF
PEOPLE THAT WOULD SAY, WELL, I DON'T FEEL
LIKE I DID ANYTHING. TO LIKE CREATE AN
ATMOSPHERE OF FORGIVENESS TO GO AND SAY, WELL,
I'M SORRY FOR THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? JOHN: WHAT YOU DO IS YOU TRY TO NOT
POINT THE FINGER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND SAY I JUST WANT
YOU TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHAT I FELT. MAYBE WHAT I FELT
IS INCORRECT, BUT LET'S REPLAY
THE SCENARIO. AND YOU DO IT IN A WAY THAT YOU MAKE IT AS EASY
AS POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO SAY, OH, MY GOSH, I
DID DO THAT, RIGHT? AND SO WHEN YOU
POINT THE FINGER, AND GO YOU DID THIS, AND YOU DID THIS, AND YOU DID THIS. IT REALLY KIND OF
PUTS THE PERSON BACK ON THEIR HINDFEET
AND DEFENSIVE. BUT WHEN YOU SAY, LET ME
JUST SHARE WITH YOU, WHEN THIS HAPPENED, THIS WAS PROMISED. THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN. I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE WAY I FELT. JONI: YEAH, AND, SEE, THAT'S
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU CAN'T ARGUE WITH
SOMEONE'S PERCEPTION. AND IF THEY
FELT THAT WAY, EVEN IF IT WAS THE
WRONG PERCEPTION, YOU DIDN'T MEAN FOR
THEM TO FEEL THAT WAY. YOU STILL CAN HAVE
A CONVERSATION. BUT WHEN YOU GO
IN ACCUSATORY, THEN YOU'RE GONNA
LOSE EVERY TIME. AND IF THEY DON'T
RECEIVE IT, BUT LIKE YOU SAID YOU'VE
DONE EVERYTHING YOU CAN, THEN YOU GIVE
IT TO THE LORD. YOU WALK AWAY AND YOU
DON'T KEEP LIVING IT AND RELIVING IT, RIGHT? IS THAT IMPORTANT? IF HE HADN'T RECEIVED YOU, THE LORD COULDN'T HAVE
HEALED YOU COMPLETELY IF YOU KEPT TALKING ABOUT
IT WITH PEOPLE, RIGHT? JOHN: ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN, ONCE I HAD THAT
MEETING WITH HIM, I WAS DONE
TALKING ABOUT IT, EXCEPT IN THE LIGHT
OF HELPING PEOPLE LIKE I'M DOING RIGHT NOW. AND I WAS TRULY FREE. I WASN'T TORMENTED
ANYMORE AND THAT'S AN
INDICATOR TO ME. AM I WALKING IN
THE PEACE OF GOD? I'M NOT WALKING IN
THE PEACE OF GOD, OKAY, WHAT'S WRONG HERE? RACHEL: ARE YOU
GUYS FRIENDS TODAY? JOHN: YES, WE STILL ARE. VERY CLOSE. JONI: I LOVE THAT. WELL, APRIL, CAN YOU THINK OF
A QUICK STORY LIKE WHERE YOU HAD -- WELL, I MEAN, ALL OF US
PROBABLY CAN THINK OF A QUICK STORY, MANY QUICK STORIES. APRIL: YEAH, WELL, I
CAN THINK OF A TIME IT'S IMPORTANT THAT
WE HAVE THOSE PEOPLE WHO CAN BE ON
OUR BLIND SIDE. I HAD BEEN HURT
BY SOMEONE AND WAS IN THE CAR
WITH MY SISTER LISA. I HAVE A LISA, TOO. JOHN: WHICH WE
KNOW AND LOVE. APRIL: YEAH. JOHN: LISA IS A BEAUTIFUL LADY. APRIL: AND I
SAID SOMETHING, AND IT WAS OUT OF
CHARACTER FOR ME. AND EVEN WHEN I SAID IT, I THOUGHT, WELL,
THAT'S NOT LIKE ME. AND SO LISA THE NEXT DAY, SHE'S SO MUCH LIKE MY DAD. WE WERE IN A HOTEL, AND SHE SAID, APRIL, I
WANT TO TALK TO YOU. AND SHE SAID, I
WANT YOU TO KNOW WHEN YOU TALKED LIKE
THAT ABOUT THAT PERSON, THAT WAS NOT YOU. AND I FEEL LIKE IF YOU DON'T FORGIVE AND
LET THAT OFFENSE GO, THE ANOINTING OF GOD CAN
ONLY GO SO FAR IN YOUR LIFE. AND I KNEW THAT
WAS SO TRUE. AND I RECOGNIZED IT, AND THANK GOD FOR THAT BECAUSE I ADDRESSED IT. I GOT FREE OF IT. I WASN'T RELIVING IT ANYMORE. AND I'M GRATEFUL
THAT I HAD SOMEONE THAT SPOKE TO
ME ABOUT THAT. JOHN: THAT'S BEARING
ONE ANOTHER'S BURDENS. APRIL: YEAH, EXACTLY. I DO BELIEVE IT'S
GENERATIONAL. I BELIEVE OFFENSE
CAN BE GENERATIONAL. AND YOU CAN PROJECT YOUR
OFFENSE ONTO YOUR KIDS, IF YOU'RE NOT CAREFUL. I MEAN, WE GOT TO BE --
WATCH THAT. JONI: THAT'S TRUE. MOM, WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT SITUATIONS THAT
EVEN, YOU KNOW, AS NOW THAT YOU'RE RETIRED, THAT YOU STILL HAVE
AN OPPORTUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW,
TO FORGIVE AND PEOPLE ARE GONNA
SAY AND DO THINGS. AND IT WILL
MAKE YOU ANGRY. BUT AT THE END
OF THE DAY, YOU HAVE TO FORGIVE,
DON'T YOU? SANDRA: ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. FOR THEM, BUT FOR
YOUR OWN SELF, TOO. BECAUSE IT AFFECTS, AS I SAID EARLIER, YOUR RELATIONSHIP
WITH THE LORD, IF YOU DON'T FORGIVE. HOW CAN YOU ASK
HIM TO FORGIVE YOU? JONI: WE WERE
IN CALIFORNIA AT THE LARGEST
WOMEN'S PRISON. WE WERE ABLE TO GO
INTO THE DEATH ROW. AND THERE WAS
ONLY FIVE OF US. AND WE EACH
PICKED SOMEONE, AND THE LADY I
PICKED RIGHT THERE, I KNEW THAT SHE PROBABLY
COMMITTED MURDER. AND, BUT IN CALIFORNIA, THEY'LL NEVER
GO TO DEATH ROW. SO THEY'RE THERE FOR LIFE. AND THROUGH THE BAR SHE STARTED
TELLING ME, YOU KNOW, WE SANG FOR THEM. SHE SAID, YOU
KNOW, I LOVE THAT. THAT'S SO GOOD AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, HE DIED ON
THE CROSS FOR MY SINS. BUT SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, I
JUST CAN'T FORGIVE MYSELF. AND IT WAS JUST LIKE
A TICKER TAPE WHERE THE HOLY SPIRIT JUST BEGAN TO TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT TO SAY. KIND OF LIKE YOU WERE
TALKING EARLIER ABOUT HOW LIKE, HOLY
SPIRIT, HELP ME. AND I SAID, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF
YOU DON'T FORGIVE YOURSELF, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT WHAT HE DID ON THE
CROSS THE FIRST TIME ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH. AND IT KIND OF
TOOK HER BACK. BECAUSE SHE WAS
WAITING FOR ME TO SAY, OH, YOU CAN'T FORGIVE, NO, I WAS LIKE, NO, YOU
HAVE TO FORGIVE YOURSELF. BECAUSE WHAT HE DID IS SO VALUABLE. YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE
ALMOST MAKING YOURSELF AN IDOL, YOU KNOW. AND SHE SAID I NEVER
THOUGHT ABOUT IT THAT WAY BEFORE. JOHN: JESUS SAID IF YOU
HAVE OUGHT AGAINST ANY, AND ANY INCLUDES YOURSELF. AND WHAT'S HAPPENED WAS SHE WENT TO
THE MENTALITY OF I'VE GOT TO PUNISH
MYSELF MENTALLY ENOUGH UNTIL I FEEL LIKE
I'VE PAID THE PRICE FOR WHAT I DID. WHEN IN REALITY, YOU CAN'T PAY THE PRICE. HE'S THE ONLY ONE
THAT CAN PAY IT. JONI: BUT YOU'RE PUTTING
YOURSELF ABOVE THE CROSS, JOHN. JOHN: YEAH. JONI: I MEAN, THAT IS
A SERIOUS THING TO DO. I KNOW YOU HAVE A STORY. [ LAUGHTER ] KENDRA: WELL, YOU KNOW,
AS A PASTOR'S KID -- JONI: A PK HERE. KENDRA: A PK. I HAD ONE OF THOSE BIG
MOMENTS, YOU KNOW, WHERE I THINK IT'S EASY
SOMETIMES FOR US AS CHRISTIANS TO BE IN DENIAL ABOUT
OUR UNFORGIVENESS AND NOT NECESSARILY BLAME
A PERSON, BUT A THING. AND FOR ME, I
WAS STRUGGLING BECAUSE I JUST CAME OUT
OF THIS DENOMINATION. AND I WAS PRAYING, BUT
I HAD SO MUCH ANGER. SO MANY STRONGHOLDS. SO MANY THINGS
WERE HAPPENING. I REMEMBER JUST CRYING
AND SAYING, WHY AM I MAD ALL THE TIME? AND I HEARD IT SO CLEARLY THE LORD SAID YOU'VE CONVINCED YOURSELF
THAT YOU HATE RELIGION, BUT REALLY YOU
HATE PEOPLE FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE
TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. AND UNTIL YOU FORGIVE
THEM AND LOVE MY PEOPLE, I WILL NOT USE YOUR HANDS. AND I REMEMBER THAT, AND IT WAS LIKE IN THAT MOMENT, I JUST STARTED LISTENING
ALL THEIR NAMES AND BLESSING THEM. IT WAS KIND OF LIKE THAT
MOMENT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A WHILE AGO. BUT I LITERALLY FELT STRONGHOLDS
IN MY LIFE BEING BROKEN. AND I DON'T THINK
PEOPLE REALIZE THAT OFFENSES CAN
LEAD TO STRONGHOLDS. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? JOHN: IT CREATES
STRONGHOLDS BECAUSE IT GIVES THE ENEMY LEGAL
ENTRANCE INTO YOUR LIFE TO HARASS YOU,
TORMENT YOU, AND CAN I SAY ONE MORE
THING REALLY QUICK? JONI: SAY IT. JOHN: I REMEMBER
500 PEOPLE STANDING IN FRONT OF ME WANTING TO RECEIVE THE
BAPTISM OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. 470 PEOPLE INSTANTLY
RECEIVED THE INFILLING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. BEGAN TO SPEAK IN BEAUTIFUL
LANGUAGE OF HEAVEN. 30 PEOPLE JUST SAT
THERE AND STARED AT ME. I SAID, IF YOU'VE
RECEIVED, GO BACK TO YOUR SEATS. THE OTHER 30 I SAID,
I GUARANTEE YOU, THIS IS WHAT'S
HOLDING YOU BACK. YOU'RE HOLDING UNFORGIVENESS
AGAINST SOMEBODY. I'M GONNA PRAY, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT IS
GONNA SHOW YOU WHO IT IS. WELL, THEY ALL
STARTED CRYING AND ALL 30 OF THEM RECEIVED THE HOLY SPIRIT. JONI: I LOVE THAT. I LOVE THAT, CINDY? CINDY: YOU KNOW, SOMETHING
I THINK THROUGH LIFE I'VE HAD TO REAL DEAL WITH IS THAT OFTENTIMES IF
SOMEONE I LOVE HAS BEEN HURT OR TREATED WRONGLY, I TAKE ON THE OFFENSE. JONI: THAT'S GOOD. CINDY: OF TOWARD
THAT PERSON. AND THEN WHAT
I FOUND OFTEN IS THEN THAT PERSON MOVES
ON LIKE MAYBE -- AND I'M STILL OFFENDED. JONI: YOU'RE STILL CAUGHT
IN THE TRAP. CINDY: I'M STILL
IN THE TRAP. AND I'VE REALLY HAD TO
ASK THE LORD TO HELP ME. JOHN: THAT WAS
LISA WITH ME. ONCE I GOT OVER IT, THEN SHE HAD TO
DEAL WITH IT. [ LAUGHTER ] JOHN: AND SHE SAID,
I TOOK THE OFFENSE BECAUSE OF THE WAY MY
HUSBAND WAS HANDLED. AND SO, YES, IT'S
EXACTLY RIGHT. YOU CAN TAKE SOMEBODY
ELSE'S OFFENSE. I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS. I DON'T CARE IF IT'S THE
WAY PEOPLE ARE TREATED BECAUSE OF WHO THEY ARE, THE SEX THEY ARE,
THE RACE THEY ARE. YOU CAN BECOME OFFENDED
BY WHAT SOMEBODY, HOW SOMEBODY ELSE WAS TREATED. NOW YOU'RE NO
GOOD TO ANYBODY. CINDY: EXACTLY. JOHN: YOU'RE NOT
HELPING THE SITUATION. JONI: I WAS THINKING ABOUT
DENISE BOGGS SHARING THE STORY OF HER SON WHO WAS IN A TERRIBLE
CAR ACCIDENT AND HIS BRAINSTEM WAS
ACTUALLY SEVERED. GOD SUPERNATURALLY
STITCHED IT BACK TOGETHER. IT WAS A LONG HEALING
PROCESS THAT TOOK PLACE. BUT SHE WOULD SIT THERE
AND TALK WITH HIM AND THERE WERE PARTS OF
HIS BODY THAT WOULDN'T MOVE. RACHEL: PARTS OF HIS
BODY THAT WERE LOCKED. JONI: THAT WERE LOCKED UP. AND SHE WOULD JUST, THE HOLY SPIRIT
WOULD SHOW HER AND SHE'D SAY, NOW,
PRAY AFTER ME, LET'S FORGIVE YOUR SISTER BECAUSE SHE WAS DRIVING. AND HE WOULD FORGIVE
AND THEN HIS LEG WOULD START MOVING. LET'S FORGIVE YOUR DAD BECAUSE HE WANTED HIS
DAD TO COME ON THE SPRING BREAK TRIP. RACHEL: AND HE WASN'T THERE. JONI: AND HE WASN'T THERE. AND ANYTHING THAT
SHOULD COULD THINK OF THAT COULD HAVE HELD, HE JUST BEGAN TO FORGIVE
EVERYTHING. AND THAT YOUNG MAN
IS MARRIED TODAY, GOT TWO KIDS. JOHN: I LOVE THIS STORY. JONI: COMPLETELY HEALED. BUT IT WAS SUCH
AN INTEGRAL PART WHEN HE WAS LAYING
IN THE HOSPITAL BED, PARTS THAT WERE LOCKED
UP IN HIS BODY, THAT WHEN HE FORGAVE, THEY BEGAN TO
RELEASE AND OPEN UP. SO I MEAN, TALK A LITTLE
BIT ABOUT THAT PART, THE PHYSICAL PART. JOHN: WELL, THERE ARE, THERE'S ACTUALLY
A MEDICAL DOCTOR THAT PRESCRIBES THAT BOOK TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE
RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS AND CERTAIN
STRAINS OF CANCER. BECAUSE THEY'VE ACTUALLY
MEDICALLY LINKED THAT UNFORGIVENESS TO
CERTAIN STRAINS OF CANCER AND RHEUMATOID. AND IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. AND THERE'S SOMETHING
WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED ON THAT WE SHOULD. I HAVE FOUND THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVE
UNFORGIVENESS WITH GOD, AND THAT'S THE TOUGHEST
ONE TO COME OUT OF. BECAUSE OF DISAPPOINTMENT, BECAUSE OF NOT RESPONDING
THE WAY THEY THOUGHT HE SHOULD TO
WHAT THEY ASKED. KENDRA: HOW COULD YOU
LET THIS HAPPEN TO ME. JOHN: SOMETHING HAPPENED. AND THAT ONE IS A LITTLE
BIT MORE DECEPTIVE AND HARDER TO UNCOVER. I HAD A YOUNG MAN THAT WENT INTO A DEEP
OFFENSE WITH GOD IN IT. IT PULLED HIM
OUT FOR YEARS AND HE FINALLY
CAME OUT OF IT, BUT IT WAS A REALLY
SAD THING TO WATCH. JONI: HOW DO THEY
GET OUT OF IT? PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING
THAT ARE OFFENDED AT GOD. JOHN: THAT ONE IS A
LITTLE MORE TRICKY. IT TOOK, IT TOOK HIM
GETTING REALLY, REALLY GUT-LEVEL HONEST AND JUST SAID I'M
UPSET WITH YOU. YOU DISAPPOINTED ME. AND THEN THE HOLY SPIRIT
BEGAN TO SPEAK TO HIM REGARDING THAT AREA. AND THEN HE SAID IT TOOK, IT TOOK A COUPLE OF
MORE MATURE BELIEVERS TO HELP WALK ME
THROUGH IT. BUT HE CAME OUT OF IT. AND THAT'S PROBABLY
ONE OF THE TOUGHEST ONES TO GET OUT OF. JONI: BUT, I MEAN, THAT IS
SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE
WHAT JOHN SAID, NO MATTER WHAT YOU'RE
DEALING WITH TODAY, I THINK THE
IMPORTANT THING IS JUST TO RECOGNIZE THAT, HEY, YOU KNOW, I
KNOW I HAVE THIS, AND I DO WANT THE
LORD TO HELP ME. AND EVEN JUST THOSE
BABY STEPS FORWARD, THAT YOU CAN BE
HONEST WITH GOD, AND JUST SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T FEEL IT. YOU DIDN'T FEEL IT WHEN YOU FIRST
STARTED PRAYING. I DON'T REALLY
WANT TO DO IT, BUT OUT OF OBEDIENCE TO THE WORD OF GOD, I'M TELLING YOU, GOD, I WANT TO FORGIVE, AND I WANT YOU TO HELP ME. THAT'S KIND OF LIKE
THE FIRST STEP, RIGHT? JOHN: IT SURE IS. IT'S AMAZING HOW
WE THINK SOMETIMES WE KNOW MORE THAN GOD. WHEN IN REALITY, HE'S OUR CREATOR. AND HE KNOWS
WHAT BREAKS US, AND HE KNOWS
WHAT FIXES US. AND SO NOW WE THINK WE'RE SMARTER AND WE KNOW
WHAT'S RIGHT FOR US AND IT'S NOT. IT'S SURRENDERING,
JONI LAMB'S MESSAGE, TO WHAT HIS WORD SAYS AND BELIEVING IT BECAUSE
HIS CHARACTER. DAVID SAID THERE WAS A
POINT IN HIS LIFE, WHERE HE SAID, ALL I
COULD DO IS FEED ON YOUR FAITHFULNESS. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT
HE WAS SAYING IS THE PROMISES
WEREN'T FEEDING ME. THE PROMISES WEREN'T
COMING TO PASS, BUT THERE WAS
ONLY ONE THING THAT WOULD FEED MY HEART, AND THAT WAS THE
FACT THAT YOU ARE ONE THOUSAND PERCENT FAITHFUL. AND HE SAID I FED ON THAT. AND THERE'S BEEN
TIMES IN MY LIFE WHERE THAT'S WHAT
I'VE HAD TO FEED ON. THAT'S WHAT REALLY
SPOKE TO MY HEART IS THE FACT THAT HE IS PURE LOVE,
DOESN'T HAVE LOVE. HE IS PURE, PURE LOVE. AND THERE ISN'T
ONE EVIL THING HE HAS DESIGNED
FOR ANY OF US. AND SO IF WE THINK THAT, WE'VE GOT THE STORY WRONG. JONI: ALL RIGHT, WELL,
WE ARE OUT OF TIME. BUT I WANT YOU TO
REMEMBER THAT, JUST LIKE JOHN WAS
TALKING ABOUT, THE ENEMY WANTS
TO USE OFFENSE TO PUT CHAINS ON YOU TO STEAL YOUR JOY AND KEEP
YOU FROM ACCOMPLISHING ALL THAT THE
LORD WANTS TO DO IN AND THROUGH YOU. I MEAN, REALLY, THAT'S A BIG
PICTURE TO THINK OF. BECAUSE WHEN YOU
DON'T FORGIVE, IT'S LIKE, YOU LEAVE
A LITTLE OPENING FOR THE ENEMY TO COME IN. I MEAN, WHEN PEOPLE
START THINKING IN THOSE TERMS, YOU REALLY WANT TO THINK, OKAY, WHAT THEY'RE
SAYING MAKES SENSE. BUT IT'S NOT WHAT
WE'RE SAYING. IT'S REALLY WHAT
THE WORD OF GOD HAS TO SAY ABOUT
FORGIVENESS. AND WHAT WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE, JOHN, QUICKLY, TO READ, OF COURSE, THEY
CAN THE BOOK, <i>THE BAIT OF SATAN.</i> BUT WHERE THEY COULD
GO IN THE BIBLE LIKE AND JUST GET SOME
CLARITY TO HELP THEM? JOHN: THE LIFE OF DAVID, WHO HAS AN UNGODLY BOSS WHO IS TRYING
TO DESTROY HIM. AND THE OTHER
ONE IS JOSEPH WHO HIS BROTHERS WHO ABSOLUTELY
MISTREAT HIM. JONI: MY FAVORITE
BIBLE CHARACTER. GO READ THOSE TWO STORIES. DAVID AND SAUL,
JOSEPH AND THE FAMILY. IT'S INTERESTING FOR SURE. WELL, IF YOU'RE
WATCHING TODAY, AND YOU'RE THINKING THAT
MAYBE YOU'VE FALLEN INTO THIS TRAP, MAYBE THERE'S SOMEONE YOU NEED TO FORGIVE. WE'RE HERE FOR YOU. AND DAYSTAR
PRAYER PARTNERS WOULD LOVE TO
PRAY WITH YOU. I MEAN, YOU CAN PRAY RIGHT
THERE WHERE YOU ARE, BUT YOU CAN ALSO CALL
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AGREE WITH YOU IN PRAYER. AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME
OF YOU WATCHING THAT YOU DON'T
EVEN KNOW THE LORD. AND YOU WOULD JUST LIKE TO PRAY THE PRAYER
OF SALVATION. YOU'D LIKE FOR
SOMEONE TO LEAD YOU INTO THAT PRAYER. AND YOU WANT TO BE READY
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REQUEST THAT WAY. WE PRAY OVER ALL THE
PRAYER REQUESTS THAT COME INTO
DAYSTAR EVERYDAY. AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK
JOHN FOR JOINING US. IF YOU, OR
SOMEONE YOU KNOW, IS STRUGGLING
WITH OFFENSE, DEFINITELY GO PICK UP A
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NEED TO FORGIVE. BECAUSE WE WANT
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ENCOURAGED TODAY AND KNOW THAT BEYOND
YOU FORGIVING, YOU CAN'T IMAGINE,
REALLY WHAT GOD HAS FOR
YOU BEYOND IT. SO LET'S GET
BEYOND IT. LET'S MOVE INTO
WHAT GOD'S DESTINY AND PURPOSE IS FOR
YOUR LIFE. THANK YOU SO MUCH
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