The Antikythera Mechanism: A Shocking Discovery from Ancient Greece.

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As part of an international team, Dr. Tony Freeth has been a central figure in an extraordinary voyage of discovery: every new revelation has reinforced a sense of shock about this highly sophisticated ancient Greek astronomical calculating machine. It is one of the true wonders of the ancient world.

Also, here’s a very fascinating documentary on the subject if anyone’s interested: NOVA - Decoding the Antikythera Mechanism | A 2,000 Year Old Computer

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In case you didn't know, a guy is currently rebuilding it on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE&list=PLZioPDnFPNsHnyxfygxA0to4RXv4_jDU2

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My mind is blown. I had no idea that ancient Greeks were capable of this.

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Thanks!

Lecture starts at 4:00.

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[MUSIC] Stanford University. This program is brought to by the Stanford Humanities Center. For more information please visit us at shc.stanford.edu. Good evening. My name is Grant Parker. On behalf of Stanford's Department of Classics, I'd like to welcome you to the 12th Lawrence Eitner Lecture on Classical Art and Culture, a lecture series aimed at presenting classical antiquity to a wider public. It's wonderful to see such a good turnout this evening. The series has been indulged by Peter and Lindsay Joost our cherished friends and benefactors of many years, friends of benefactors of Stanford Classics. And in honor of Lawrence Eitner, who died in 2009. Born 80 years previously in what was then Czechoslovakia, Lawrence Eitner started in Germany and fleeing Nazi atrocities, came to the United States, starting at Duke and Princeton Universities. At Stanford from 1963 to 1989, Professor Eitner served as director of Stanford's Art Museum, now known as the Cantor Art Center, for a long time. He also chaired what was then the Department of Art and Architecture. He was himself a distinguished expert on French romantic painting, especially, Jericho, with a dozen books to his name. In naming these annual lectures after him, we honor the memory of a renowned scholar, teacher, and writer, who oversaw the process that raised our university's art museum from the doldrums to prominence. From 1,400 to 33,000 square feet. Today I'm thrilled to we welcoming, as our speaker, Dr. Tony Freeth. Who joins us from his home base in London. Surely, the first Eitner lecturer to have all his degrees in mathematics, from Cambridge and Bristol universities. Doctor Freeth spent 23 very successful years in film and television, as an award winning director of for Thames Television, the BBC and Channel 4 on scientific, cultural and social issues, as well as medical science. In the new millennium, the television cameras have turned instead on Tony himself, for his work on the Antikythera Mechanism. The extraordinary device about which he will tell us today. In making sense of this artifact, dubbed by several writers as the world's first computer. I think we'll get to decide for ourselves. Tony is the expert, the one who's research finally lead to that aha moment in understand this intriguing object. More than a century after it's discovery in 1900. His interpretations, published in nature and other top journals, are the radical new advances and the definitive interpretations that would have been unthinkable without his mathematician's background, to say nothing about his director's pragmatism in getting complicated projects together. Tony, your appearance today as the Eitner lecturer is a timely demonstration of what stunning results come from collaborative, bridge-building research. And further that Classical Antiquity has not finished telling us whatever it has to say. We'll be looking forward tremendously to your lecture. The Antikythera Mechanism, a shocking discovery from Greece. >> [APPLAUSE] Thank you very much for the introduction, Professor Parker, what you see here is X-ray slices through the main surviving fragment of the Antikythera Mechanism. You can see all the details of the gears, the pins, the bearings the arbors, the inscriptions. It's a truly complicated device. It's also probably the most extraordinary artifact ever discovered from the ancient world, and one of the true wonders of the ancient world. It's a work of genius, which continues to surprise and shock us as we discover more about it. I have to say I've had a really great time here in California. I love Stanford University. I bought the cap. >> [laughter] >> It's got a fantastic logo on it. It says fear the tree. >> [LAUGH] >> What I've come here to say is Fear the Antikythera Mechanism. >> [LAUGH] >> It will challenge all your preconceptions about the classical world. First, I'd like to thank Professor Walter Scheidel for inviting me to give this lecture, and Professor Grant Parker, who has given me a very generous and warm welcome and taken me on some very memorable tours of the campus, thank you very much. I would also like to thank my good friend and long time Antikythera collaborator Tom Malzbender, who's some where here in the audience and his fiance Alice Trand for their very warm, generous and thoughtful, and considerate hospitality while I've been here. They nearly killed me, they took to Yosemite Valley, and they took me walking up to the top of Yosemite Falls, I'm not a young man any longer, and I very nearly didn't make it down, I have to say. So I am very pleased to be here to give this lecture, but it was an absolutely fantastic experience. I would also like to thank Peter Lindsay Joost, for the very imaginative and generous support for this lecture series. This very challenging and interesting lecture series. I have to say, it's a great privilege to be here at Stanford giving this lecture. And I'm not really sure that I'm quite up to it. But what I do know is that the Antikythera mechanism is up to it. So I hope you're going to forget my inadequacies while you're dazzled by the genius of the ancient Greeks. What I want to tell you is, what I want to talk to you about is why the Antikythera mechanism was such a shocking discovery from ancient Greece. I'm going to take you on a voyage of discovery. Through the key questions to establish its identity. What, where, when, who and why. The story starts, obviously with its discovery and with a man called Fotis Lindiakos, seen here with his family in a small island called Symi in the eastern Mediterranean. Which is a sponge fishing island, and Lindiakos ran sponge fishing boats. In 1900, he sent a sponge fishing boat off to travel west across the Mediterranean to the normal sponge fishing grounds. And when they reached a tiny island called Antikythera, they encountered a severe storm. They had to take shelter from the storm. But when the storm subsided, the captain, Dimitrios Kondos, decided to send down one of the youngest divers, Elias Studi Artis, to see what he might find in the local waters. And Stadiatis came up a few minutes later trembling in fear, and said that he'd seen a heap of dead naked people underwater. These turned out to be sculptures scattered on the sea floor, along with a lot of other artifacts, amphorae and so on. He'd stumbled on an ancient wreck. So the captain himself went down and found a bronze arm, which he brought to the surface. They had commercial pressures. They had to get on with their sponge fishing tour, so they went carried on taking the bronze arm with them and eventually went back to Symi. There, apparently, they debated as to what they might do. Should they perhaps, next season, go back and plunder the wreck? Or should they tell the authorities? And I don't know why it happened, but I'm sure we're all grateful that they did tell the authorities. Who organized the first major underwater archaeology in history? The Greek navy provided a gunboat, the Mykali, to stand by to deter looters and the sponge fishermen themselves were commissioned to carry out the dive. You can see them in the top right picture there. In 1900, they didn't have too much luck because of storms, but in 1901, they started to bring up some very serious artifacts. It was a stunning find. It was a true treasure ship. It was full of wonderful bronzes that you can see here. Superb glassware, much of it intact. Some jewelry, amphorae, tableware, many, many other objects. But one object that no one noticed or regarded at the time, was a corroded lump. It must have come out of the sea in one piece. This is the earliest picture we have of it, taken in 1902. And it was taken along with all the other artifacts to the National Archeological Museum and set aside in a store of stuff to be examined later. And then a visiting former minister, Valerios Stais, came to the museum and he noticed that it had split apart, and inside there were these gear wheels. These weren't crude mechanical gears that you might find in a windmill or a water mill, these were precision gears with teeth about a millimeter long. It was a truly shocking discovery. They simply should not have been there in an ancient Greek artifact. So the key question was, what on earth is this object? And I'm going to spend most of this presentation telling you some of the answers to that. In the early days, there was a lot of confusion and arguments. Some people thought it was a navigation instrument. It did come from a ship, after all. And some thought it might be a geared astrolabe, which is a device for tracking the stars, which was closer to the truth. But as with so many academic disputes, it was very heated and quite controversial dispute, and both sides were wrong. >> [LAUGH] >> But there was one man in this early period who did make significant progress, called Albert Rehm. He was a philologist, a German philologist, expert on ancient languages, and a remarkable man in many ways. Later, in 1930, he would become rector of Munich University, but he was strongly anti-Nazi. >> And he was forced out of his job and forced into what they called internal exile in Germany, and he was only reinstated into his job at the end of the war. Back in 1905, though, he started to look at the fragments, particularly this Fragment C. This is one of the main fragments. The main fragments are lettered A, B, C, etc. And on the face of this fragment, he noticed some inscriptions, hard to read inscriptions. And he read the name of an Egyptian month name written in Greek. And there were a lot of divisions that were clearly day divisions. So this was an Egyptian calendar. He identified an Egyptian calendar dial in fragment C. He inferred also that there must have been a zodiac dial, and he read some more faint inscriptions on the surface of the fragment, which he transcribed, you can see on the right. And this he identified as a parapegma, named for a star calendar in the ancient world. So Rehm had clearly determined that the device was astronomical in nature. This is a page of Rehm's unpublished research notebooks. He did publish a couple of papers. But the most interesting work that he did remained in his unpublished research notebooks. They're a gold mine of interesting ideas and thoughts, and I've highlighted a marginal note there, and you can see the numbers 76 there and 19, and the word Kallippischen and the word Metonischen. This is another page of his notebooks, and you can see the number 223. The fact that these numbers are in his notebooks means that Rehm must have seen this fragment here, which we call Fragment 19. Less than 5 cm long, very tiny fragment. And we sometimes call it the user manual for the mechanism, because it describes the underlying principles on which the mechanism worked. I'm gonna show you that with a beautiful technique which was invented by Tom Malzbender, who I'm currently staying with, who was then at Hewlett-Packard. Which looks at the surfaces of objects and enhances the clarity of the surface details, and as you can see, the text absolutely leaps out with this. This is jumping ahead, in a sense, in the story, but it's absolutely a key technique that we use for looking at the inscriptions. What Rehm must have seen was firstly 19 years for the Metonic Cycle, Metonischen. And this is a cycle of the moon, which in fact, originated in 5th century BC Babylon. They're named after a Greek astronomer, Meton of Athens. He also saw 76 years for the Kallippic cycle. This is an improvement by the Greek astronomic Kallippos Of the Metonic Cycle. He took four Metonic Cycles and took out a single day. And he also read Sigma Kappa Gamma 223 in the ancient Greek letters for numbers system, which is for the lunar months of the Saros eclipse prediction cycle. And I'm going back to describe the Metonic and Seros cycles in detail later. These are the key cycles you need to know to understand how the mechanism worked. In order to understand what these cycles mean, I'd just like to talk a little bit about ancient astronomy. When the ancients viewed the skies, every night they would see the whole dome of stars, which they referred to as the thick stars, heave over from east to west as the earth spins in the opposite direction. But they notice the movements of some astronomical bodies relative to the stars. And these were the sun, the moon and the five planets known in the ancient world. And they all seemed to follow the same sort of path through the sky, which is known as the ecliptic. And the reason they do that in modern astronomical terms is that the solar system, these are all the bodies that are close to us, lies pretty much in a flat disk. And these movements were in the opposite direction to the movements of the stars predominantly. They also defined a band of stars around the ecliptic and called it the zodiac, and divided it into the 12 customary signs that we know of. There's Virgo and Libra. And this gave a frame of reference for defining the positions of the astronomical bodies. For example, the moon there we might think was about six degrees in Libra. I'm going to now take a snapshot of the moon on a particular night, near a prominent star at a particular phase. And it's moving relative to the stars in the direction of the arrow. And exactly 19 years later, I'm going to take another snapshot and you'll see that it looks identical. And that the reason for this is the Metonic Cycle. In that 19 years, the moon has gone through exactly 235 lunar months, that's the phase cycle of the moon, from new moons, through full moon, back to new moon. So the moon is at the same phase after 19 years and it's been through 254 sidereal months. This is the basic orbital cycle of the moon around the earth. The cycle of the moon against the stars, so it's in the same position relative to the prominent star. So this is a brilliant predictive cycle for the moon. Rehm was the first person to really understand the essence of the Antikythera mechanism as an astronomical calculating machine. He realized that it used Bronsky wheels to calculate these astronomical cycles. He got the mechanics completely wrong, he simply didn't have enough data. But he had these extraordinarily prescient ideas. You'll see at the top there's four coaxial pointers. And this is the form we think now that the front of the mechanism took. Here's another page of Rehm's notebooks. And I just want to translate a couple of phrases here. The first says Epicycle. And the second says, eccentric in turning, it turns an epicycle. Well, what are epicyclic gears? If you imagine a conventional mechanical clock, it has gears that turn on axles that sit in bearings in fixed plates. The bearings don't move, the axles don't move, the gears turn around. With epicyclic gearing, the bearing is planted on another gear so that it turns around with that other gear. The axle turns around while the gear is turning. Its really an extremely difficult to understand, advanced form of gearing and frankly utterly shocking to propose for Ancient Greece. You'd expect to have to wait til the Middle Ages to find this sort of gearing. It's a very subtle form of gearing. Rehm had these, as I said, got everything mechanically wrong, but he had these extraordinarily present ideas. It's 100 years later that we realize that he was correct about this. He left this great legacy, but very unresolved legacy. And nearly half a century later, the next researcher was the great Derek de Solla Price, who started studying the fragments in the early 1950s. By 1959, he published a very famous article in Scientific American. He said, the mechanism is like a great astronomical clock without an escapement. At least 20 gears have been preserved, including a very sophisticated assembly of gears that probably functioned as sort of epicyclic or differential gear system. He probably got epicyclic gears from Rehm, his differential gear system became his most famous proposal. Price was very persistent, and more than a decade later, he teamed up with a very distinguished, a Greek radiologist, Charalambos Karakalos, to carry out the first set of X-rays. To their complete astonishment, they found 27 gears in the main fragment. It was a truly complex mechanism. Now if you want to know what a mechanism does, a geared mechanism that reproduces astronomical cycles, you want to count the teeth of the gears. And in the right-hand picture you can see that the teeth of the gears have been marked for counting. Nearly all the gears are partial to get these sectors of gears. And you have to make estimates of the total number of teeth on the original gear from this partial information. And this was done by Charalambos and his wife, Emily. And then they'd take the results to Price. Let me give you one example here. The Karakalos family said that this gear, that's the gear that nearly fills that square, you can see the teeth in the top left corner there. They estimated that this gear had 128 teeth. Now by this time, Price started to argue with the Karakalos family, much to their irritation about their tooth counts. And Price said he thought this gear had 127 teeth. Apparently they were very irritated. They thought they'd done the scientific thing and that Price was massaging their figures. Let me just look at that gear here with one of our modern X-rays. And you can see the huge advantage of modern X-ray technology. You can see the traces of nearly all the teeth there. You can make a very reliable tooth count estimate. And Price was correct about the tooth-count, it had 127 teeth. Well what's a tooth between friends you might ask. >> [LAUGH] >> But it turned out to have great significance because 127 is half of 254. It's the large prime factor of 254, the number of sidereal months in a 19-year metonic cycle. So what Rhem found in the inscriptions, the metonic cycle, Price found embedded in the gearing. It was a very important discovery and Price went much further than this. He described how he thought this gear was embodied into the gear wheels of the device. On the right there you can see the main surviving fragment with it's characteristic large wheel, four spoked wheel, sometimes called the Main Drive Wheel. It goes round one turn a year. On the left, there's a computer reconstruction and you can see a little crown input gear which is where the device is turned from probably by a knob or a crank or something like that. And if you look at the back of that gear there, there's another smaller gear, b2 64 teeth also goes around once a year. Price sensed that there's another gear that meshes with it, c1 with 38 teeth. I should say this is not an epicyclic gear. I've suppressed the main plate here so you can see the gears but this sits on a fixed axis in a bearing in the main plate. And we can easily calculate how fast this gear turns by the simple laws of measuring gears. We just divide the tooth counts and it simplifies down to 32 over 19. And 19 is clearly for the Metonic cycle. Price then said there's a couple more gears, 48 teeth, 24 teeth simply doubles the ratio. The minus sign is because each time you mesh two gears, they turn in opposite directions. So this is the basic way the mechanism works. It builds up increasingly compounds gear trains to calculate increasingly sophisticated ratios. Then comes Price's 127 tooth gear, meshes with another little gear, e2 with 32 teeth and calculates. You do the simple arithmetic calculates 254 over 19 which is the sidereal version of the Metonic cycle. It essentially calculates the average position of the moon in the zodiac. Now let me just look at the output year for this. It's got a rather strange little pentagonal hub with a hole through it. Price thought that the output of this gear then went straight up to the front dials, to the Zodiac dial that Riemann proposed to show the average position of the moon in the Zodiac. But in fact, the gear train take a completely extraordinary journey, which I'm going to describe. This wasn't a fancy on Price's part. Here we have in modern x-rays all the gears involved with this. And usually for the Antikythera mechanism, many of them are nearly complete. We can count the tooth counts, they all check out. This is a completely established part of the Antikythera mechanism. Price also looked at the back of the gears at the back of the mechanism. And you'll notice there are two large gears E3, E4. And on them sit two Epicyclic gears K1, K2. Well, why do we use Epicyclic gearing? One purpose for them is that if you've just got fixed axis gear trains as we've seen Price's gear train. Then we can simply multiply and divide the tooth counts. We can't add or subtract ratios, we simply multiply and divide them. If you want to add or subtract ratios, you got to use Epicyclic gears. It's not obvious, it's a difficult concept. What Price said was that this was all part of a differential system. Differential difference, it calculated a difference. He said it calculated the difference between the basic orbital cycle of the moon around the earth, the sidereal cycle. And from that it subtracted the orbit of the Sun around the Earth. Remember we're in geocentric, Earth-centered astronomy here. And that subtraction produces the phase cycle of the Moon, the lunar month, again, it's not obvious. It was an absolutely brilliant idea on Prices' part. Unfortunately it was wrong. And this, I think, set back Price's research by a huge amount. He became famous for this idea. If you have a brilliant idea for which you become famous, it's kind of hard to challenge it. And he didn't question it or challenge it, he just got famous from it. And one thing Price noticed in the system is the large gear that E4, we call it somewhat confusingly lowercase e3 for very good reasons I won't go into. The Krykos family estimated 222 teeth for this gear, and Price wrote that you might think that this had something to do with the 223 lunar months of the cycle. But in this context, it can have no such meaning, and the reason for that was that this large gear per e3 went around much too fast for it to have that sort of astronomical meaning, so he discarded the idea. He put together all his ideas about the gearing into a complicated gearing diagram. These are two versions of it, two schematic versions of it. You can see in the middle there, the little Metonic gear train we followed in blue there. And it is complicated, difficult to understand, won't describe it in detail. What I want to say about this model is that everything else is wrong, completely wrong. His son Will is wrong, his differential gear was wrong. His four year dial was wrong. And this is really where I came in terms of research. I wrote a paper called Challenging the Classic Research, which criticizes this model on the basis that it was far to complicated for it's simple output. It violated an essential principle in science engineering, computer science and technology, which is that you should keep things simple. It's sometimes called the KISS principle. Keep it simple stupid, is the idea. And it's a fundamental principle that everybody in science goes by. But Price, he didn't get everything wrong, he understood the relative position of the fragments. He got a huge amount of right in fact, which Redmond had not been able to do. And he put this together into a basic architecture of the mechanism as a simple box with at the front on the left there, you can see the dials, a calendar dial and the zodiac dial that Rem proposed. And at the back he said there's a Twin dial system, with five turns at the top, four turns at the bottom. That I believe, you've got completely right. But you got the function of these back dials wrong. After 20 years of search, he put everything together in a truly great paper called, Gears from the Greeks. By this time, Price was Avalon Professor of the History of Science at Yale University and this paper defined the Antikythera mechanism for the next generation. It became the bible for later researchers. And don't misunderstand me, I really revere Price. I think he is still the greatest researcher in Antikythera research history. You don't just make progress in science by getting everything right. You make progress also by getting things wrong in an interesting way. And he set the agenda for the whole future of research. When he died at an early age, the mantle was taken over by two more researchers. On the left there, Professor Allan Bromley from Sydney University, a professor of computer science. Seeing there I should say not with the Antikythera mechanism, but with part of one of Charles Babbage's computing engines. He was a considerable expert on Charles Babbage. And on the right there is Michael Wright, who was then a curator of mechanical engineering at the Science Museum in London. They had become skeptical about Price's model I have to say some years before I had, but unknown to myself. And they determined to get new x-rays to do new x-rays, the problem with the Crackle's x-rays was all the gears were overlapping. They were two dimensional x-rays, you couldn't easily distinguish the 3D depth of the gears, or the mechanical structure. And they used this early technique of 3D x-rays called linear tomography. I won't go into the technique, it's very hard to interpret the results. And I should say, sadly, that Alan Bromley died before the full fruits of his research could take place. But Michael Wright was extremely persistent and made some very fundamental discoveries on the mechanism, which I've listed there. I don't possibly have space here to go into all of Michael Wright's research, but he produced some very important results and I'm gonna talk about some of these as I go through. To start with, I'm gonna talk about this Metonic Calendar. That's the upper back dial of the mechanism. That's the dial which Price said was a four year dial, which was frankly a very boring and simplistic idea. But in Gears from the Greek's, Price also wrote that there's a possibility that there might be 47 months for each turn of this dial, 5 turns of the dial, 5 47s is 235 and it might be a Metonic Calendar Dial. But he threw away his brilliant idea and it was taken up with great perception by Michael Wright, who went much further. He proposed gearing for turning the pointer of this calendar dial. I'm going to strip off the case and show you the gearing. It starts just the same way as Price's Metonic gear train, with a little gear with 38 teeth with the same result. And then there is a gear with 53 teeth. Now bear with me going through this rather detailed look, it is really, I assure you worth it. Now I was a mathematician and 53 teeth, it's a bizarre prime number. It's not a prime number you'd expect to turn up, it's got no apparent meaning. In my own developing model at the time, I changed it to 54, which turned out to be a huge mistake. If we look at this gears with our x-rays, we have enough teeth to make a tooth estimate, and 53 is the correct answer for it. Its meaning is extraordinary. I'm gonna put the rest of the gear train in, that Michael Wright proposed. And you'll notice that there's a second gear there with 53 teeth. Which it's a conjectural gear, we don't have any physical evidence for it, but it must've been there. Because we only want the ratio 5 over 19. It's a 5 turn dial over 19 years. So the 53 teeth gears cancel each other out. So what on Earth are they doing there? Why is this gear train so complicated? It dramatically seems to contradict the KISS principle, you should keep things simple. Understanding this was understanding the heart of the Antikythera Mechanism. By 2005, Michael Wright had produced the model which had the planets at the front on a very bold scheme he had with eight coaxial pointers for the dates sun, moon and five planets. And I believe he's fundamentally correct about that. I have arguments with him about the gearing, I think his gearing is far too complicated. He revived Price's idea of a Metonic Calendar with great perception and proposed the gearing. But for the bottom dial, he had a Draconitic month dial. Now the Draconitic month is a month which is to do with the possibility of an eclipse happening. And Michael Wright had modified prices differential to produce this Draconitic month. Price's model produced the lunar month. Michael Wright's modified the tooth counts in the gears to produce the Draconitic month. And he said that it was displayed, four Draconitic months were displayed over the four turns of the dial on a scale with 218 half days. As soon as I read this, I was sure that it had to be wrong. In parallel with Michael Wright's work, there was a new initiative set up by a distinguished astronomer at Cardiff University in Wales called Professor Mike Edmonds in the top left corner picture there. And he gathered a group of people around him, including Greek astronomers and including myself, who were interested in the mechanism. Now by this time, I'd become completely fascinated with the Antikythera Mechanism. I become absolutely passionate about it. Or as my wife sometimes puts it, obsessed with it. >> [LAUGH] >> We also, I was extremely frustrated that we had no good data. We didn't have a good set of still photographs, we couldn't find the Caraculus x-rays anywhere, and Michael Wright didn't want to share his data with us. So I started to look around for new ways of gathering data on the Antikythera mechanism. And in a science magazine, New Scientist, I found an article. But a brilliant technique, invented by Tom Malzbender, who's sitting somewhere over there. Can't see him, but who was then at Hewlett-Packard Laboratories. And this is the technique you saw with fragment 19, for looking at surfaces. This is what we wanted, to see the inscriptions on the surfaces of the fragments. But we wanted to look inside them, with the gears, with 3D X-rays. And I found this, another world-leading company called X-Tek Systems, just northwest of London, set up by Roger Hadland, who's the man in the middle of the bottom right group there. And so we had all our techniques that we wanted to use on the mechanism, and the sticking point was getting permission from the Greek authorities. Now this took nearly five years. At one stage, we were turned down, early on in the process. We then got a grant from the Leverhulme Trust to fund everything. And just about a month later, we were turned down again. So we had our technology teams, we had our money, but we couldn't do our project. And it was only cuz of the huge persistence of Professor Xenophon Moussas, who's in the bottom-left to the top-left group, that we actually finally got permission to do the thing. The whole thing was frankly a nightmare and very tough for myself, because we just spent years failing to get our permissions. But in the fall of 2005, we ended up at the National Archeological Museum in Athens and there we were looked after by two senior staff, archeologists Mary Zafeiropoulou on the left there and Head of Chemistry, Dr. Eleni Magou. When we started our studies, we knew of these fragments here. Plus a few more bits and pieces that Price mentioned in gifts from the Greeks. And then one day, Mary came to our team and said she found some more boxes of bits in the basement store of the museum, might we be interested? Well, of course they were labelled Antikythera, of course we were interested. To cut a long story short, we ended up with 82 fragments in all. And we took new still photographs of them, which you can see here. And we subjected all the fragments to our two investigative techniques. Bottom left, bottom right, you can see Tom Malzbender with his mysterious dome covered in flashlights that he uses for his reluctance transformation imaging. Or polynomial texture mapping, as we knew it in those days. Top left, you can see X-Tek Systems manhandling an eight-ton X-ray machine into the basement of the museum in Athens. It was a special prototype machine that they made for this project. If you want to do 3-D X-rays, you to be able to penetrate your samples through all the angles, including the long angles. So they made an X-ray machine with double the X-ray power of anything else comparable in the world at the time. So round there, you see a lot more images of data gathering. And of course, the most important activity, there in the center, which was having fine meals in the restaurants in Athens. After a week with Hewlett-Packard, two and a half weeks with X-Tek Systems, both brought superb teams and I have to say they were wonderful teams to Athens, we ended up with a superb set of data, around a terabyte of data. What you see there is a mixture of still photographs, the Hewlett-Packard surface imaging technique, and slices through the 3D X-ray volumes produced by X-Tek Systems, some in false color. The most important thing to realize about this data is that everything you see there is at millimeter scales. Size of the teeth of the gear is about a millimeter long. All the text 2 millimeters rounded, typically 1.6 millimeters, and this exquisite details preserved despite 2000 years under water. We'd expected that the Hewlett-Packard technique would show us the inscriptions that covers the surface plates and that X-Tek's 3D X-rays would show us the gears inside the fragments. And that all turned to be true. But another wonderful revelation was that the X-rays also showed us text inside the fragments, completely invisible from the surface, hidden for 2,000 years, unread for 2,000 years. Price found around 1,000 text characters. We've now read between 3 and 4,000. It was a wonderful revelation. When we got this data, we all took it back to our facilities to examine it. And I was charged with trying to sort out the mechanical structure of the device. And I started not with the main fragment, fragment A, cuz we had some severe technical difficulties with the data for that. So I started with this little fragment F. One of the fragments Mary had found in the basement store, around nine centimeters long. And it looks like nothing special at all, like something you might pick up on a beach. A bit of green suggesting some bronze, maybe. And I'm going to look at it with x-ray slices. I'm going to take a slice through near the front of it there. And there's really nothing of any interest there. And I'm going to go down through the fragments in parallel slices, close apart, to see what we can find. If I go down through the fragment, I start to see what looks like part of a dial. When I go down further, it becomes sharper. And then i see these scale divisions, and then more scale divisions. And I developed a very simple strategy, which is if you want to know what a dial does and you've only got part of it and you've got scale divisions. In order to understand its function, you want to try and extrapolate the number of divisions round the whole dial. It's an obvious strategy, but I have to say, it was not followed with any great consistency by previous researchers. Now these scale divisions reminded me very much of some more scale divisions that Price had seen visible on the surface at the back of main fragment, fragment A. Looks very similar. And I could determine the relative orientations of the fragments and put them together. Together with another little fragment E, with similar divisions in it. And suddenly I had quite a lot of data around this dial on which to extrapolate the total number of divisions round the dial. And this came, you may have guessed the answer already, this is the number of divisions round the dial, came to the remarkable number, 223. It was clear that this must be an eclipse prediction dial. This was our first major breakthrough from our new data. I just want to explain a little bit about the Saros Cycle and how it works. If you have an eclipse of the sun or the moon, in a particular month. And you look 223 lunar months later, just over 18 years later, you get another very similar eclipse of the sun or the moon. And this repeat eclipse goes on repeating for 12 to 15 centuries. It's a very remarkable cycle. It works because 223 lunar months is the same as a whole number of draconitic months. This is a month that tells us whether an eclipse is possible and the fact that it's the same a whole number of anomalistic month. The anomalistic month is the variable motion cycle of the moon. The moon sometimes looks as if it's going slower against the stars and sometimes faster. In modern terms, we know that cuz it has an elliptical orbit, sometimes it's further away. And this ensures that the repeat eclipse is very similar. It's a remarkable chance resonance between three of the orbital cycles of the moon. Now there was more in this little fragment F than that. If you look between the scale divisions. And I'll show you those in some of x-ray slices. You can see these little groups of text, letters and symbols, which I call glyphs. And if you look around the dial, there's some inscriptions. And again this reminded me of what Price had seen visibly at the back of Fragment A. There's two glyphs there that you can see and around the dial some inscriptions, hard to read inscriptions. Again, beautifully enhanced with Tom Waltz-Bender's technique. So now I could trace all these glyphs in our three fragments, A, E, and F, and put them all round the dial in their correct positions. And you'll notice that lot of them are six months apart. Some of them just five months apart, and some of them are in adjacent months. This is exactly the pattern of eclipses of the sun and moon in the astronomical record. So, the glyphs must be the eclipse predictions. I'd like to look more closely at them and discuss what they mean. There's clearly more information in these glyphs than just the presence of a lunar or solar eclipse. So, let me decode some of their meaning. At the top of some of them, there's a sigma, which I soon realized stood for Selene, the ancient Greek goddess of the moon, clearly indicating a lunar eclipse. At the top of some, eta, Helios, god of the sun for a solar eclipse. Some of the glyphs, like the one in the middle there had both a sigma and a letter. For a month which had both lunar and solar eclipse. All the glyphs had this unusual anchor type symbol which took me a long to decode until I finally found it in the book of ancient Greek horoscopes. And it's a combination of omega and rho, ligature of omega and rho, standing for aura, Greek for hour. And it's always followed by either a letter or, in this case, a special symbol, di gamma for the number six in the Greek letters-for-numbers system. So this indicates the hour of the eclipse. The mechanism didn't just predict the presence of an eclipse in a particular month. That the hour of the day of the eclipse many years or decades hence. Now at the bottom of all these glyphs, there was another letter which I'd seen but I hadn't understood. And after our first paper was published in nature, a very distinguished historian of ancient astronomy, Professor Alexander Jones, came to our conference that we organized and he told me something that I've missed about these letters. I feel somewhat shame-faced to admit that I missed this but they are in alphabetical order. And there's a whole alphabets worth of index letters without [INAUDIBLE] followed by that second alphabet with bars on top. And these must surely in some way refer to the inscriptions around the dial. So by this time, I had a nice story that had the dial as an eclipse prediction dial. I had the glyphs and this index letter system. I can't go into the whole system, I don't have space. If you're interested, you can Google Antikytheran plus one, that's probably Library of Science one. And it's an open access journal, anyone can read it. Just say that this is a prediction scheme of quite astonishing ambition. The index letters, you look at the index letter in the glyph and you look at it in the inscriptions and that tells you characteristics of the eclipse. It's an extraordinary scheme. But going back to late 2005, what I wanted to know was how was the point to turn, like Michael Wright had determined how the point it was turn for the upper dial. So we need to go behind the plates and look at the gearing. That's all the gearing we saw for Michael Wright's gearing for the Metonic Calendar Dial. And I want to turn the lower back dial. And again, I've suppressed the main plate so you can see the gears, but there's really only one axis which can turn this, and that's this little Axis m. The gearing branch is here to the upper-back dials and to the lower-back dials. And I need a gear with 223 teeth. It's a prime number. Can't break it down into smaller gearing. And if you look at the back of the main fragment, Fragment A, there's really only one good candidate gear, E3 there. It's not the ring gear inside it, its' the bigger gear, slightly harder to see outside that. This is the gear that Price called E4 and the Karakolous family counted its 222 teeth. Price rejected the idea that it was the 223 months of the Saros cycle. But if we look in our x-rays we can see many teeth. We can make a reliable tooth count. And 223 is the right answer. Price had had again a brilliant idea, which he'd thrown away. And he threw it away because of his differential. Now let me put that into our gear diagram. There's the gear pair there. We need to turn it from this little axis m here, and now we can start to calculate how fast these gears turn. We know already how fast axis m turns. It's this bizarre fraction with the number 53 in, which you remember, which cancelled itself up in Wright's gear train. We calculate how fast e3, e4 turn. And we get this rather strange fraction 9 x 53 over 223 x 19. But it will turn out to be a very significant ratio as we'll see. The next gear in the train is another gear with 53T. By this time I was getting extremely disturbed by all of this, cuz again the 53 is cancelled out. It's not used in this Gear train. If we look at what we need, sorry, just to say this is the gear, reliable count says 53 teeth. So it was correct. If we look at the gear train, we don't want 53 in the final answer. We just want, it's a 4-turn dial. 2 to three months, 235 over 90, and that's the mutonic cycle, that's the ratio we want to turn our Saros pointer. We don't need this extraordinary bizarre, strange and disturbing prime number 53. So that's what we want for the Saros pointer, this gear e3. This large gear found no role in any previous model. Now it has two roles. It turns, no sorry, it has one role. It has a essential role in turning the Saros pointer. So everything now seems to be going on the right lines. In our modern X-rays, we can see all these gears except for the conjectural one. All the tooth counts check out. It's a completely established part of how the Antikythera mechanism works. And so, this was a nice story. I had the dial, I had the gearing. But I also had a huge problem. Which is, if you look at the back of fragment A, inside the large gear e3, there's another couple of gears there. They were part of what Price referred to as his differential system, which I was sure by that time was wrong. I'm going to look at them more closely. I'm going to examine them with our x-rays. Now if you look there, the gears on the left, look like they're the gears on the right, but they're not actually those gears. I'll have to come forward a millimeter towards us, and you see, then, two more gears. And these are the gears on the right. There's four gears in the system. To Price's great credit, he saw that. And I want to look at the bottom gears, which are epicyclic gears, k1 and k2. And the particular feature of k2, which is very evident there, which is that it's got this notch out of it. Now this was noticed in 1902, very early on, by Ragos. But he didn't understand it. It was noticed by Price who thought it was evidenced that a tooth had broken and been repaired and the repair had dropped out. But Michael Wright, with his new x-rays made a far more acute observation. He said that there's a pin on k1 which engages with a slot on k2, and in that way, gear k1 carries gear k2 around. Now I think most people's reaction would be that this is an entirely useless idea. The gears will turn with the same speed, and you might simply just as well attach them to the same axle. But Wright made another really astonishing observation, he said that the gears turn on slightly different axes, slightly eccentric axes. The difference in the centers is just about a millimeter. And this makes all the difference. I want you to forget for a moment that these are epicyclic gears. And I'm gonna show you a little animation that shows what this system does. I'm gonna imagine that k1 goes round at a constant rate of the mean sidereal month. That's the gear with the pin on there, you can see k1. And on top of it, sits k2. And as the gears turn, you'll see sometimes k2 is behind, and sometimes it's ahead of the pin gear. The slot gear is, you get this little variation in the motion of the slot gear. Notice that in this fixed axes situation, the period of rotation of the slot gear is the same as the input period, the sidereal month, and I'll come back to that. So going back to our actual mechanism, the key question was could this model the variable motion of the moon? Wright considered this in a rather throw away paragraph in one of his papers and he discarded the idea. Because in his model of 2005, this large gear e3 rotated much too fast, 60 times too fast for this to work in any meaningful way. He rejected this idea for exactly the same reason that Price rejected the idea that e3 might have 223 teeth. The gear e3 turned much too fast. But in my developing model, e3 turns, you remember the Saros dial which is a dial which has a period of 18 years over a 4-turn cycle. Everything is very slow. So, it's going around very slowly. So, maybe this is a promising idea. The second key question is, why is the Pin & Slot mounted epicyclically on e3? And I'm going to explain why that is. And I'm going to revert now to modern astronomy to talk about the reason. This is the lunar orbit. And it's an ellipse as we know in modern astronomy. I've exaggerated the ellipse there very much. It's much more like a circle. But it is elliptical. Apogee is the point when the moon is furthest from the Earth and Perigee is when it's closest. Apogee is when the moon appears to be going slowest against the the stars, cuz it's furthest away, and perigee when it's going fastest. And I want you to image the moon starting the prominent star, which you can see on the right, going all the way round the zodiac, and back to the same prominent star. This is the Sidereal Month, which we talked about, period of about 27.32 days, on average. Now, you might think that the Moon then had got back to its slowest motion. That apogee. But in fact that's not case, because the apogee has moved around, a little bit, in the meanwhile. It's just the so-called, lines of apsogees, that joins perigee and apsogees, processes around in a very slow period of just under nine years. So the anomalistic month, stay with me if you can, the anomalistic month, which is this month, the variable motion cycle of the moon is just a little bit longer than the sidereal month, only about five and a half hours longer. Remarkably, the ancient Babylonian astronomers knew of this difference between the sidereal and the anomalistic month, as did the ancient Greeks. But none of them knew about elliptical orbits. But the ancient Greeks were brilliant geometers and they had a very beautiful theory for explaining this anomalous orbit of the Moon. They said you can explain it as the sum of two simple circular motions. There's a large circular motion with a period of the sidereal month on which, and a little epicyclic added circular motion with the period anomalistic month in the opposite direction. Now that's all a bit of a mouthful so I'm gonna show you an animation of this theory. The pink dot is the actual Moon, and it traces out an orbit which is like a squashed, off-center circle. Each time it's slightly different as it goes around, and each time it takes a bit longer than at the sidereal month to get to the red line to get to apogee. Sometimes the Moon is behind the average moon. And sometimes it's ahead of the Moon. And it models the elliptical theory, the modern theory of the Moon, in a very beautiful way. Yes, the red line there is equivalent to the line of apsides of the orbit. One end is where it's furthest from the Earth, and the other end where it's closest, where it appears to be moving furthest. So this is the ancient Greek epicyclic theory of the Moon. Very beautiful theory. I'm gonna return to my mechanism now to ask some questions. And the key question is, how fast must this large gear, e3, rotate so that this little Pin & Slot device exactly models this ancient Greek epicyclic theory? You remember that its basic input needs to be the sidereal month, but the period of variability needs to be this other slightly longer month, the anomalistic month. And I have to say this is indeed easy. If you're encountering this for the first time, it may be you're not following it total detail. I want to give you a flavor of what the thinking was. So the question then is, how fast should e3 rotate to make this Pin & Slot exactly the equivalent, geometrically equivalent, to the epicyclic theory of the Moon? And the answer turns out to be that it must rotate at the rotation which is the difference between the sidereal month and the anomalistic month. Equivalent in modern terms of the rotation of line of apsides, the slow rotation with a period of just under nine years. Now we can calculate this from the Metonic and Saros Cycles. I'll let you do that as a little exercise to do at home. [LAUGH] I don't really have time, but it's simple arithmetic. And when we do that simple arithmetic, we come out with this fraction, 9 x 53 over 223 x 19. Which you'll remember we already have as the rotation of e3 when we were calculating the gearing for the lower back dial of Saros dial. So now we understand what the 53-tooth gear is doing there. It's turning e3 at exactly the right rate so that the Pin & Slot models this ancient Greek theory of the Moon. It is, I have to say, extraordinary. Now, e3, it had no role in any previous models. Now it's got two roles. It turns the Saros pointer and it carries epicyclically this little Pin & Slot device, to model the epicyclic theory of the Moon. Let me put this together, that's e3 rotating at this rate with a period of just under nine years. That's, you remember, Price's little Metonic gear train which output on a little regular pentagon with a hole through it. This calculates the mean sidereal month. Let me show this in closeup. There's a gear with 50 teeth sits on there, meshes with the pin gear, which also has 50 teeth, on which sits the slot gear with 50 teeth. And this generates this variable motion and then it transmits it back, reversing its direction onto another gear with 50 teeth. So to summarize this system, we have the Pin & Slot mounted epicyclically to change the period in which it delivers its variation from the sidereal month to the anomalistic month. It is a truly astonishing system. I would say a shocking system. It's, in my view, an incredible idea, it's a work of absolute genius. And realizing that this is how it worked, a whole cascade of consequences came out then. That all the tooth counts could be explained from the Metonic and Saros cycle. As often in science, you make a breakthrough and everything else follows from it. It was a fantastic feeling of discovery. But we hadn't really quite finished there. That's the same gearing seen from the side. You can see the output which calculates this variable sidereal month there. And I'd assumed like everybody else that the gearing at the back of the mechanism went off to the left to the back dials. But this didn't seem to make much sense. And then two or three weeks later, I got a call from Mike Edmonds with a very nice insight. He said, what if the output went the other way, through the little hole, you'll remember, in the pentagonal hub. We can see all this stuff in our x-rays, I should say, it's not made up. And the output went up towards the zodiac dial at the front of the device to show the position of the Moon in the zodiac. That's where you want this sidereal month output. You might consider that this was a completely crazy thing to attempt in ancient Greece. But the craziness of the designer didn't stop there. The designer added another little device on the end of this output. And I'm going to show you that from another angle. And it shows the phase of the Moon. This was a discovery by Michael Wright. And I want to take the cover of this off to show you how it works. It's just got two little gears in it. It's got an epicyclic crown gear with 20 teeth, which meshes with another little gear with 20 teeth on the solar output of the device. And it's a differential device. It calculates the difference between the sidereal rotation of the Moon around the Earth, and the rotation of the sun round the earth, the annual cycle of the sun round the earth to produce the phase cycle of the moon. Now where have you heard that before? That was what Price's differential did, what Price's brilliant differential did. But he got it in completely the wrong place with this cumbersome system. The genius who devised this device, just two little gears which did exactly what Price's differential did. I just want to put all this together to show you how the gearing relates to the fragments and what the whole thing looks like. This is the back of fragment A.. These are the gears at the back there, you can see the pin and slot there, the gears for the top dials and for the bottom dials. These are the fragments that show the back plates of the mechanism with the twin dial system, top and bottom. We come round now to the front of fragment A. And you can see these rather mysterious fingers that point up from the main drive wheel, which we believe are part of a conjectural planetary system first proposed by Michael Wright. This is my radically simplified gearing for it. And it ends with Wright's proposal of eight coaxial pointers, showing the date, the sun, the moon, and all five planets known in the ancient world. This is fragment C, and it comes from all over the front of the mechanism. Quite a jigsaw puzzle to sort out. The middle part of it shows the moon phase device. Then there's the zodiac and calendar scales and all of these plus these little fragments here that show. At the top, the star calendar the top and bottom of the device. Everything in the wooden box turned by a little knob or crank at the side. >> [LAUGH] >> If that doesn't shock you, I don't know what will. >> [LAUGH] >> [LAUGH] So that's what I've going to say about what. And I've got some short sections now to further explore the identity of the mechanism. And one question is, where was it made? Well, the archaeology is the first port of call for this. There have been two major studies on this, both high quality studies. Particularly the superb study by the archaeologists at the National Archaeological Museum in Athens under their then Director Dr. Nicholas Kaltsas. Both studies agree about the geographic origin of the cargo, and it was scattered all over the ancient Greek world. Mostly in the eastern part, but still some amphora from Italy, coin from Syracuse, and so on. The ship was almost certainly traveling from east to west, probably going to Rome but not definitely. The route of the ship, whatever you read on the internet, is not really known. There's a lot of misinformation on the internet about the Antikythera mechanism, I have to say. You have to be rather careful. And the cargo really tells us almost nothing about the origin of the mechanism. So we want more sorts of information. And there are some very remarkable, classical texts by Cicero. Who wrote first about a device made by Posidonios which at each revolution reproduces the same motions of the sun, the moon, and the five planets that take place in the heavens every day and night. Sounds just like the Antikythera mechanism, and Cicero knew Posidonius, he was a pupil of Posidonius' in his Stoic School of Philosophy in Rhodes. So this might suggest there's a connection with Rhodes. But Cicero also wrote about Archimedes. Archimedes was killed in the Siege of Syracuse in 212 BC. And Cicero reports that the victorious Roman General Marcellus took just two, they were described as globes, fire eye, which are thought to refer to these sort of mechanisms that Archimedes had made. And again, the description sounds just like the Antikythera mechanism. The motions of the sun and moon and of those five stars which are called wanderers, the five planets. Archimedes had thought out a way to represent accurately by a single device for turning the globe those various and divergent movements with their different rates of speed. Just like the Antikythera mechanism, but Archimedes was based in Syracuse in Sicily. So I'm gonna add this to our map, two possible origins, widely spaced across the ancient Greek empire. But we'd like much better information than this, and some comes from essentially cultural information in this little fragment B, which is our evidence for the upper back dial, the Metonic calendar dial. Let me show you that fragment rotated and with the little month divisions round the 235 month dial indicated in blue. And if you look very closely, you can see some inscriptions between the month divisions. And I'll just go down through some x-rays. Typically, you have to go down through many x-ray slices. In this case, it turned out to be 60 slices to read the text, cuz everything's uneven and it's hard to read. Let me just show you a close up of one the month cells there, and I can trace the text. And I didn't have any idea what this meant. I don't read Greek, I don't know ancient Greek, so I talked to my Greek colleagues and they couldn't work out what this meant. And then we agreed to send it to Alexander Jones. And by return email he said he believed that these were month names written over several lines, which certainly made sense. Now it's kind of difficult to figure out what that month name is. But because the calendar has 235 months, the month names will be repeated many times around the dial. So I can find the same month name in another month cell, put the information together, and I get the month. Now, after several weeks, or even I think it was months of work, Alex Jones and I managed to decipher all 12 month names. Or at least I deciphered 1 and Alex deciphered 11. >> [LAUGH] >> He was the expert, and that's what they look like. We were extremely lucky that we just had enough information from the x-rays and some characters from Tom Malzbender's PTMs to get just enough information to get all of the month names. And there was a hidden message in this calendar. If you look at calendars in the ancient world, they're very individual to individual city-states. But the month names themselves are scattered over a wide geography. This was basically worked out by Alex Jones, based on work by Catarina Trumpy. If you look, say, at the blue month names there, you can see on the map, if you look very closely, map prepared by Lena Anastasiou at the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki. You can see little blue squares. The bigger the square, the more the number of months in the local calendar coincides with the Antikythera calendar. And you can see these blue squares right across the ancient Greek world. They don't tell us about geography. If we look at the green month names, in the little green squares, you have to look quite carefully, more in the eastern part, but still scattered right across a wide geographic distribution. No good for determining the origin of the mechanism. But four of the months in red there were exceptional months, they were rare months, and they came uniquely from the calendar of Corinth. Or Corinth's colonies in Northwestern Greece were in Sicily, and so this established that the calendar was a Corinthian calendar. So very exciting new result. And we got in more excited by the idea that maybe this link to mechanism to Sicily, and Archimedes. But later work, by John Morgan and Paul Iverson at Case Western University, suggests that this is wrong. They believe that this is a calendar most likely from the northwestern area of Greece called Epiros. Let me put that on the map, that's Epiros there. And this was quite convincing evidence that there's a connection with Epiros. This was a pretty surprising result. I mean everyone had assumed up till that point that the mechanism may be came from Rhodes or Alexandria or somewhere like that. No one had suggested the Epiros region of northwestern Greece. And there was more information in this little Fragment B. If you look there, there's a little subsidiary dial inside the Metonic calendar dial. Let me show you that in close up. And one day I read the word Nemea around it. Had no idea what it meant. Looked it up on the Internet, and found that Heracles had killed a lion there. I don't know ancient Greek culture or language, so I have to try the Internet, and Heracles had killed the lion there, didn't seem particularly relevant to the Antikythera mechanism. So again, I sent it to Alex Jones. Again, by returned emails, it was seemed to be by return email by Alex. He said that one of the major athletic games, the Panhellenic Games, in Ancient Greece, was held at Nemea. And again, we spent some weeks and managed to decipher many more names round this dial. We found the Isthmian Games for the games at Corinth. The Pythian Games for the games at Delphi. And finally, rather small I have to say, the Olympia for the Olympic Games at Olympia. Now these are the major crown games of the Panhellenic athletic cycle. It established clearly that this was an Olympiad dial, a four year dial. Remember, Price had a four year dial, but he put it in completely the wrong place again. Extraordinary, really. But we have these crown games. This was an Olympiad dial, but you'd expect these crown games to be on any dial, or any mechanism had an Olympiad dial would have these crown games. They were the major games. But in ancient Greece, there were hundreds of little minor games and there was one up here called the Naa and another one here which was pretty much undecipherable. It was, clearly there was text there, but none of us could work out what the text might mean. So, let me deal with the NAA first, does anyone happen to know where the Naian games, the NAA, were held? Well, let me tell you, they were held at Dodona in the Epiros region of Northwestern Greece. Dodona was a major oracular site, second only to Delphi and the Nayan games were held there, so we were building up a very nice confidence story about the origin of the Antikythera Mechanism. But there was a sting in the tail of this research. If I can go back to my dial. A couple of years ago, Paul Iverson made a suggestion for what this other, minor games might be. And he suggested the Halieia, and I'm almost certain he's correct. Well, again, let me go back to my geography. Does anyone know where the Halieia were held? No, they were held in Rhodes. So our comfortable story fell apart. And we really don't know how to resolve this. I think you have to make up your own narrative. It could have been made by somebody in Rhodes for a client in Epiros, or made by somebody in the Epiros region who'd spent their youth running in the games in Rhodes. We really don't know, but this is the best information we have about the origin of the mechanism. Still unresolved, but very interesting, I think. So let me look at when. A crucial question for determining the mechanism's identity. Again, the archeology's the starting point, both studies agree objects from the wreck, 4th century BC to the middle of the 1st century BC. There's a general consensus that the wreck was probably in about 65 BC, and this gives us a terminus ante quem for the mechanism in the mid first century, BC. If I'm going to add this information to a timeline this time, these two studies say terminus ante quem mid 1st century BC. But obviously we want closer information than this. And there's information in the inscriptions of the epigraphic analysis of the inscriptions. And epigraphers, of which I'm very much not one, look, do stylistic analysis of the letter forms and can give information from that about the date of the inscription. They notice things like the omicrons are all small, the pis tend to have their second leg shorter than the first, and the top and bottom strokes of the sigmas are splayed. Now, I have to say, this process is a bit more an art than a science, and different epigraphers disagree. Let me put some information about different epigraphers' views on our timeline. Wilhelm, in the early days, probably wisely gave a rather wide range. [LAUGH] Merritt's worked with Price and said basically first century BC which agreed with Price. He says the subtitle of Gears from the Greeks is a calendar computer from about 80 BC. And he had an argument for saying it was made in 80 BC, which I think all of us now believe is spurious. Kritzas worked with our group and brought the date considerably earlier. And I've worked most recently with Charles Crowther, brilliant epigraphist from Oxford University. And he's brought the date even earlier, but we'd still like a firmer date. And some of the information comes out of the astronomy. Remember Rehmes cycles that he identified in this fragment? Well, the latest of these is the Kallippic Cycle, launched in a very specific date in 330 BC. So this gives us a terminus post quem for the mechanism in 330 BC. Let me add that to my timeline, there it is. Not a huge advance here- >> [LAUGH] >> But there's more in the astronomy than that. You remember that it took four generation of research to work out this? The mechanism exactly models the ancient Greek epicyclic theory of the Moon. In the 2nd century AD, Ptolemy attributed this invention of this theory to Hipparchos of Nicaea, with those dates there. But Apollonius of Perga, it's known, developed epicyclic theories of the planets. And he was said to have been called epsilon, because the shape of an epsilon is like a crescent moon, because of his work on the Moon. So it seems very plausible, even likely, that Apollonios might have developed an epicyclic theory of the Moon. So let me add that to our information, depends who you believe invented this epicyclic lunar theory. So that's where it remained until a year or two ago. Some quite astonishing work by an Argentinian researcher, Christian Carmen, and James Evans from Puget Sound University. And they presented this work at a conference in Leiden in the Netherlands. And the arguments were so difficult, I have to say, based on complicated aspects of Babylonian eclipse prediction practice, many assumptions. And I think many of us got lost, I certainly did, around a third of the way through or before then. So when they announced their result, which was astonishing, I think they must have been disappointed with our reaction. They said that they'd sequentially eliminated possibilities to determine that the full moon of month one of the dial is May the 12th, 205 BC. Not any hundred-year range for them, a particular day- >> [LAUGH] >> On which the Saros dial started. Now I got lost even though I'd been studying this dial pretty intensively. And I'd been looking at the times in the glyphs, the eclipse times. And I believed that these times were not based on observations by the Greeks or even a set of earlier observations by, say, the Babylonians. I believed they were generated by a simple mathematical model using the methods of the time. And I developed a mathematical model for determining these times. And it's quite a good model. It's not unfortunately the exact model, I'm still working on this. But when I synchronize this mathematical model of the eclipse times with the astronomy, it produced a unique fit. That the full moon of Month 1 of the dial is May 12th 205 BC. I was completely astonished by this. My methods were very different from Christian and Jim's. In some ways, our assumptions were contradictory. And the dates was exactly the same. >> [LAUGH] >> Now I'd like to say with confidence that I can tell you this is the right date, but the truth is I believe this is the right date. But we haven't yet resolved what's going on here. It's very difficult, I have to say, the two papers are there. Anyone's welcome to read them and try and sort it out, but I'm still working on it. I'm still working on this eclipsed times model, which I've slightly improved. But I'm looking for an exact model. If they were using a mathematical model, it should give the exact results. And I've failed so far. Most of the scientific research, as you'll know, is about failure, really. It's only occasionally that you get successes. So I don't think we've done enough yet to persuade you as the academic community that this is right. I believe it's the right date, and it's a very interesting date. Let me put it on my timeline, it agrees with the archaeology. It agrees with the epigraphy, if you agree with Charles Crowther. It agrees with the epicyclic lunar theory, if you think it was invented by Apollonius, or his contemporaries, or even earlier. And it's a very interesting date, it's much earlier than any previous date. The earliest previous date suggested is 150 BC. General consensus is about 100 BC. And I think it's a very interesting date in terms of the next question, which is who made the mechanism. And I'm going to put up another timeline there with some famous scientists and astronomers listed with their dates there. Some events you maybe familiar with there to just locate in the history. This is all happening in the Hellenistic Era. And this date really puts these astronomers, scientists into the frame. Archimedes was dead by just seven years with this date. My own belief is that Archimedes probably started the tradition of making these devices. Sorry, started the tradition of making these devices. We can't be certain of that, but the Cicero description is very remarkable. Eratosthenes, I really don't know, distinguished Greek astronomer, but no obvious connection with the mechanism. Apollonios, well, his epicyclic theories of the planets were almost certainly incorporated into the mechanism. The gearing's gone, so we can't be certain. And the theory of the Moon, which may well be attributed to him, is also included. Maybe Apollonius worked with Archimedes. They knew each other, I understand, but we really can't be sure. And of course, it might have been made by some unknown genius who's been lost to history because the historical record is so fragmentary, which is you as classicists will be all too aware of. I'm going to finish on an animation of the mechanism, which is an exploded diagram which comes together to form the mechanism. Nearly all of this gearing, particularly the gearing at the back, is now established. The planetary gearing at the front is conjectural. But something calculating the planets was almost certainly there. And I'd like to quote Derek de Solla Price, who wrote it's frightening to know that the Ancient Greeks, just before the fall of their great civilization, came so close to our own age. Not only in their thought, but in their scientific technology. I would say that it's shocking. And I am not going to answer the question why. I am going to incorporate that into questions that you might have. I have just put a list of possibilities there, and I thank you very much for your attention. >> [APPLAUSE] >> Thank you very much indeed Tony we can have one or two questions. Any responses? >> Yeah? >> Is this a new technological discovery that could help with information about this mechanism and techniques. x-ray demography that willhelp >> I think that we could do another x-ray analysis. X-ray technology's moved on and is higher resolution and we might therefore be able to resolve some of the uncertain letters in the inscriptions and things like this. But this is kind of a slightly marginal process, I think. And maybe the investment and the difficulties of doing it might not justify it. I'd love to do it myself but I blanch at the thought of another five years to get permissions to do it. The other obvious thing is that we'd love to find another of these mechanisms. And the problem is that this thing sticks up like a sore thumb, in terms of the history of technology. The next mechanism you find that exists is a device, about seven or 800 later. Which is a Byzantine device called the London sundial calendar, very simple device, had just about eight gears. And it's as if technology went backwards for that period. And then you have to go the 14th century to an astronomical clock made by Richard of, sorry about that. That made by Richard of Wallingford in Epsom Auburn. So it sticks out there, it doesn't have predecessors. There must have been simpler devices before this. Nobody sort of sits down one day and builds something as sophisticated as this. It's impossible, isn't it? There must have been some simple devices, maybe something that would calculate the mean position of the moon in the Zodiac, a few gears like the Metonic gear train. But all these artifacts are missing and I think that the problem is bronze artifacts that survived on the surface. As it were, that when two shipwrecks nearly all got melted down in later history, one classicist told me that after the sack of Corinth, there were known to be, I think, 3000 bronze statues there, and nothing at all survived, she said, not even a big toe. So the problem is that bronze things, these mechanisms they would have stopped working, and they would have been melted down. They were such a valuable material. So we really have to look in shipwrecks. And the optimistic thing is, now, that there are really good technologies for looking for shipwrecks, particularly deep shipwrecks. Recently in the, I think it's called the archipelago they found 22 wrecks, unexplored wrecks. There are probably just full of amphora, but some day maybe not in my lifetime somebody may find another of these mechanisms and give us much more information. There's quite a lot of the Cicero's in B.C. times, those Cicero's texts. There's a quote from Vitruvius which describes similar type of thing, also first century B.C.. And in early centuries A.D. there are other quotes that describe similar devices used by Astronomers and astrologists and so on. So there's a sort of feeling that they were around, I'm sure it wasn't unique, I'm sure it was copied. I'm sure this wasn't the first version of it because there are very, very few mistakes in any of the inscriptions, or the way the gears are cut, there's very few corrections that we can see. So I don't know if that answers your question, but that is hugely frustrating. Just one more thing is that Pappus of Alexandria in the fourth century AD said that Archimedes had written a treaties called On Sphere. It's thought that treatise refers to these mechanisms. There's some argument about whether it does or whether the sphere might have been actually more spherical. Apart from that, we would absolutely love to find that treatise. I understood for example there was a possibility that there's another library at Herculaneum, I don't know if anyone knows about this, buried deeper than the original library where there's all these charred manuscripts. Which they are beginning to be read, so there's a chance we might find some texts. Remarkable things turn up and I hope so. Yes sir. >> If this technology had not been lost, how far do you think we would be now? >> Well, you know- >> Where would be now? >> After C Clark wrote, he said that if the Ancient Greeks had understood the power or the strength of their technology Then they would have been able to get to the moon within the next 300 years. We would not be exploring the nearest stars. It is a bit fanciful, honestly. It is a bit speculative. I don't know the answer. I am not really a historian. It is really much over to you in terms of history. And I put here, a whole, even why why it was made is not clear, I put a whole lot of ideas that the people have suggested that it was a demonstration device. I think it could be much more than that. That it was some sort of rich person's toy like a luxury astronomical watch people might wear, or maybe. It's been suggested it was an astrologist tool but I don't think we believe that because none of the inscriptions contain any scrap of astrology. It's all pure science that we can read, and I think if it was designed for astrology there would be a little piece of our descendants and houses or whatever. My own view is that it was made as a mechanical cosmos by great scientists of vision who realized that you could use bronze-case wheels to model the cycles of the cosmos I don't think it was conceived as a calculating machine. If you look, calculating machines don't come till the 17th century with Schickard's device and the and so on. And I think they made this thing and then maybe looked around at what elsecould you apply this sort of technology to? I think they answered well, nothing, really. Our normal daily lives don't follow these cycles that the heavens do, that are separate there. And they didn't think of the conceptual step of taking this technology, perfectly capable of making an adding machine or a multiplying machine. I think that that took nearly 2,000 years to happen. Because it's a huge conceptual leap that they didn't think of. But it's very speculative. Was it a computer? Well, I produced a film called the World's First Computer, or the BBC version's called the 2,000 year old computer. And I think in popular terms, it's fine to call it a computer. But in more technical terms, it's not really a computer. It doesn't have programs, and stock programs, and all the things we associated with modern computing. It's closer to being a calculating machine, I think. >> I hope you take one more question. >> Obviously, there appears to be a lot of precision metalworking in this. Is this typical of the metalworking at the time? >> Well, there's two things I can think of which show that they were very skilled in metalwork. First is, if you look at the jewelry, ancient Greek jewelry, it is exquisite, and fine and very detailed. They have the ability to work at this small scale. And the small scale itself is remarkable. It must have been made to be portable. The pinnacle of the eccentric axis is just about 1.1 millimeters apart and had to be quite accurate to properly model the variable motion of the moon. So it was made to very, in all the text, this tiny text. You imagine, I haven't calculated it yet, but it probably had 15 to 20,000 text characters on it, on average 1.6 millimeters high. One thing that is very remarkable is this proposal by Michael Wright, of this coaxial point of system of the front. You can imagine having to make eight coaxial tubes that fits closely inside each other. And he often quotes the ancient Greek aulos, which was a flute, that had two concentric very tightly fitting tubes to show that they had that capability. But it's still remarkable. I should say that at University College London we're soon to begin two doctoral programs, one with an absolutely brilliant student. We're going to explore the making of the mechanism and the techniques that we used because it's not put together like a modern clock with all the gears separated with their spaces. Many of the gears appear to be touching each other. They move, they slide on these specials of sliders. They have the main drive wheel has these brackets that hold them down. Completely against modern practice. It's made in a different way. Most of the models that you might see on the web are made using modern principles. We're exploring all those. It's this sort of original language of mechanical engineering and how they did that. So there's lots of questions that we want to try and answer in a very sort of experimental archaeology type of way, really. >> There are clearly many, many more questions, and some of them, in fact, on the board this very minute, posed by Tony himself. But for now, please join me in thanking Tony for sharing such virtuosic- >> [APPLAUSE] >> For sharing such virtuisic study of such fascinating material. Thank you very much indeed. >> Can I say one more thing? >> Absolutely. >> If Archimedes had nothing to do with this, it's certainly cleverer than anything we know that Archimedes did make. So if Archimedes didn't have anything to do with it, who did? This is a real question because it is a device of genius. Maybe there's somebody unknown, but it is cleverer than any of Archimedes' known devices. Thank you very much all of you, thank you. >> [APPLAUSE] >> This program is brought to you by the Stanford Humanities Center. For more information, please visit us at shc.stanford.edu. For more, please visit us at stanford.edu.
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