The 5950X: Should YOU Buy It? 5900X Benchmark Comparison

the 5950x is upon us 5950x is upon us if you can find stock stock levels haven't really yet normalized but i've seen the 5950x go on stock a couple of times on newegg and also on micro center but who is this new cpu for i mean 16 cores of madness general insanity when does it make sense to pay 800 for this cpu when say the 550 5900x uh is a little cheaper and also 12 cores i mean maybe there's other alternatives the answer though is kind of complicated when you look at it there are three main areas of performance to look at with the 5950x gaming content creation productivity and that kind of thing and rendering i also want to take a quick look at overclocking because we have something new that we didn't have before with the recent bios updates i mean we didn't even have it at the launch of ryzen 5000 but now we do it's the amd curve optimizer which changes the overclocking game pretty completely this does void your warranty if you're doing that no refunds but you can't observe single core boosts that are as good as stock or better but you also get the bump in multi-core performance so the curve optimizer is a new more precise way of overclocking ryzen it still leverages amd's fit algorithm which is what gives you those single core boosts but we can sort of co-opt it and use it to our own ends so in doing this video i found some new stuff and i got kinda long-winded about it so we're gonna do a new video on the curve optimizer and you can probably achieve 5 gigahertz a single thread on most 5000 series amd cpus that are out at the time of this video now there may be some other ones coming but i don't know we'll see all testing was done on the same system with 32 gigs of dual rank cl 14 3800 memory this particular memory will exaggerate the performance differences at low resolutions with more powerful gpus you know able to crank out more frames because the frame rates basically enter absurd territory and then that memory latency really starts to matter now for comparison the amd 5900x is on the table now keep in mind lower resolutions like 1080p the swings are much wider which is really just down to memory latency and it's really latency more than clocks but clocks can offset some of the latency so it can be a little harder to achieve higher memory clocks with more sticks of memory it does kind of get complicated and uh you know we kind of mentioned some of this with the gamer's nexus and my personal sweet spot at 16 gigs of dual rank is pretty good but you can also get some brand new memory so it's like cl 14 on ddr4 4000 so it's gonna give me a little bit of a game changer there for content creation puget bench fusion bench pg systems they make custom systems you should definitely check them out they have a benchmark system for the adobe suite including premiere and photoshop now the 5950x and the 5900x you know as you probably know that there's a lot that goes into premiere performance beyond just raw cpu horsepower and that shows here you know 1009 versus 1050 in the puget bench benchmark shows that the cpu does make a little bit of a difference but i'm not really sure it's worth the price premium for photoshop performance and that sort of thing 5950x at 1232 versus 1219 that's essentially a push that's again pretty close performance overall geekbench well the single thread score is exactly the same and the multi-core score as you'd expect is a little bit higher with the 5950x because you get 25 more cores the indigo performance is the only renderer that is perhaps a little surprising it is possible to tune it and get a little bit better score here but the move from 2.85 to 2.984 really isn't that much i was expecting a 25 percent improvement especially when we factor in the uh scores for things like cinebench so yeah center bench basically the same single score single core score again but we can move from 84 76 to 99 48. uh for other renderers like blender with the classroom scene in the bmw scene you know fishy cat coro the barcelona you got 25 more cores you get 25 more performance that's pretty much what you'd expect for 3d rendering for gaming we can start with time spy the overall score you know 18065 for the 3090 combo compared to 17 355 for the 1500x390 combo i mean yeah the 5950x is doing a little bit better and surprisingly if you break that down to the graphics score the 5950x is able to feed that 3090 gpu a little better the cpu score is not as much different as i thought there's there's more of a difference in a gpu score than the cpu score when we're looking at the sub scores inside of time spy that seems messed up fire strike it's a pretty similar story not really sort of kind of 38 000 versus 35 000 ish you know when we're talking about the 5950x versus the 5900x the graphics score overall is about the same between the 5950 and the 5900x if nothing i mean it's just it's it's within margin of error it's not like what we were seeing in time spy and of course the physics score is a little bit better on the 5950x as you'd expect in terms of actual real world gameplay well it's it's pretty much what i was saying for gameplay the 5900x extra 4 cores doesn't really make much of a difference even at 1080p where having more memory bandwidth and more cpus and maybe the more more cash would make a difference but we're within one or two fps this this is really margin of error differences from 1080p all the way up to 4k on borderlands 3. it's the same story with far cry 5. now remember far cry 5 is special because far cry 5 struggles with the topology on the 3000 series ryzen cpus this is this is an area where intel cpus historically have freely excelled but 5900x versus the 5950x there's not enough of a performance delta here i think to justify the 5950x for gaming shadow of the tomb raider same kind of a story from 1080 all the way up to 4k it's basically the same performance on either cpu tom clancy's wildlands again is another title where uh sometimes we would see weird behavior on older ryzen cpus but unlike far cry 5 they actually updated the engine and updated the performance so some of the early performance benchmarks for wildlands maybe weren't that great on ryzen but now things are pretty good but there's not really much of a performance delta between the 5900x and the 5954 gaming the reality here when you're looking at gaming though is there's not really much difference between the 5900x and the 5950x even less of a difference than the 3950 and the 3900x which was out of that single poor performance thing but still though overall combining the 16 core 3950x with the power of something like the 3090 with its ridiculous 24 gigs of vram that is an admittedly unstoppable combination i mean yeah these components are really expensive you know you're out like 3 500 by the time you've got the motherboard and the cpu and the 3090 itself and the crazy pricing around now and it's probably only gonna get worse uh but thirty five hundred dollars six months ago like what you could actually buy for thirty five hundred dollars about six months ago was way less than this so i don't know now the cost difference between a 5900x and a 5950x is 40 however the best case scenario uplift performance is on the order of 20 and it may be worth the price premium to get a 20 uplift depending on what your work is and you know is the cpu making you money or is this you know a fun toy or somewhere in between there is so much good stuff that you get from the 5900x like the 5950xt i mean you get the same amount of l3 cash 2 pools of 32 megs of cash technically there's more cash per core with 12 cores 64 megs of l3 versus 64 megs of l3 for 16 cores uh but you know how much that translates to real world performance not so much what about other competition in the market well there's x299 and cpus like the 10980 xe for around a thousand dollars on newegg here's my x299 system xspc custom loop 40 pcie lanes tons of performance 4.3 gigahertz all core in a custom loop yeah these cpus from intel offer avx 512 which is something amd doesn't have and there are x299 motherboards that are more workstation-ish than the available you know x570 and b550 motherboards you've also got quad channel memory which means you've got potentially more memory bandwidth but even with all that the cpu performance falls well short the per per core performance on the 10980xe just can't touch the 5950x i mean historically intel is always really careful to ensure that single thread performance that gaming performance that high that crown was on desktop cpus even with their 10980xe even with an overclock i mean sure x299 was the productivity king and high-end desktop at one point but it was never the gaming king it never had that single thread crown it can still make sense if you need the pcie lanes and the relatively low cost and the memory bandwidth those are really rare edge cases considering the memory performance you can get out of am5 because of the giant cash pool so for gaming and lightly threaded stuff amy amd is winning by large margins i mean memory bandwidth just can't make that up and the raw per core performance advantage of each core on amd in the 5950x is like a two to one ratio with the cores in the 10980xe as stock i mean 16 cores can go toe to toe with 28 cores from intel and at a fraction of the power usage at least until you start overclocking so overclocking i mentioned the new curve optimizer now that really is something i'm going to have to do another video on that because i've sort of went down the rabbit hole on that and it's really interesting stuff at the end of the day the 5950x i mean it's like one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse in terms of cpu performance that amd is able to move as far as they did from you know previous flagship performance the 3950x to the 5950x and then what that does to all of the rest of the cpus in the family is truly incredible i mean it's 800 i think that the 5900x is a much better deal for what you get but if you need four more cores and what you're doing will benefit from it running a lot of virtual machines compiling other tasks watch out for a video on the level one linux channel uh virtualization stuff like that well vfio pass through and some other stuff there's there's some rough edges there don't just dive into that you're gonna need you're gonna need a guide i'll show you but uh you get into that kind of stuff it's like oh 16 cores 800 and this kind of horsepower it really starts to make sense i just it's unbelievable what amd has been able to do with this socket and the performance and the chiplet architecture and literally everything else coming together now it's just a matter of manufacturing them and getting it out of the market's hands it's really what a time to be alive computing is exciting i'm wendell this is level one i'm signing out i'll catch you later you know astute observers might have noticed this is actually the 3950x box look it's it's pretty fancy it's a little bigger it's got this little cut out you know it's just it's a little different the 5950xbox doesn't have this does that imply that there's something even higher end than the 5950x coming just in case amd needs it once they've bend enough cpus once there's enough chiplets once there's enough production nah

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Published: Thu Dec 10 2020