THE RECONCILIATION PACKAGE MAY BE WORSE. I DON'T KNOW. IT'S A TIE. JOINING TO US TALK ABOUT IT ALL, TEXAS SENATOR TED CRUZ. MR. CRUZ, AS ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE YOU, YOU KNOW THIS BUSINESS GETTING IT UNDER CONTROL. AT LEAST HE ACKNOWLEDGES THERE IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CONTROLLED BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF SUDDEN YOU BLINK AND EYE THERE ARE 15,000 ASIANS UNDER A BRIDGE IN TEXAS. >> YEAH. LARRY: BY THE WAY I KNOW WE'RE TRYING TO SHIP THEM BACK BUT APPARENTLY MORE IS COMING FROM COLOMBIA. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE, THIS WHOLE YEAR, NOTHING HAS BEEN SOLVED AT THE BORDER? >> WELL I WAS ACTUALLY DOWN IN DEL RIO LAST FRIDAY AND I SAW FIRST-HAND THE TRAGEDY THAT HAS UNFOLDED THERE AND THE CAUSE IS REALLY SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. IF YOU GO BACK TO SEPTEMBER 8, JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, SEPTEMBER 8 THERE WERE 700 TO 1000 PEOPLE CROSSING ILLEGALLY EVERY DAY IN DEL RIO. MANY OF THEM WOULD CONNECT UNDER THE DEL RIO NATIONAL BRIDGE. ON SENT THE 8th, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAD PLANES SCHEDULED TO GO BACK TO THE HAITI. THE VAST MAJORITY OF IMMIGRANTS ROSING AT DEL RIO ARE FROM HAITI. THEY HAD 9 HUNG PEOPLE SCHEDULED TO BE DEPORTED TO GO BACK TO MATEY. ON SEPTEMBER 8th, THE GOVERNMENT CANCELED THE FLIGHT. THEY SAID THEY COULD STAY HERE. THE 900 PEOPLE, CALLED THEIR HOMES, TEXTED FAMILY AND FRIENDSES. BETWEEN SEPTEMBER 8th, AND SEPTEMBER 16th WHEN I WAS THERE, THE NUMBERS WENT FROM 700, TO THE DAY I WAS THERE THERE WERE 10,503 PRIMARILY HAITIANS UNDERNEATH THAT BRIDGE. IT WAS OVERWHELMING THE BORDER PATROL. IT WAS MORE THAN THEY COULD PROCESS. THE NUMBERS WENT EVEN HIGHER UP TO 15,000. AND THERE IS A DIRECT CAUSE AND EFFECT. WHEN YOU DON'T ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS. WHEN YOU TELL PEOPLE IF YOU CROSS ILLEGALLY, WE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WE'LL LET YOU STAY, YOU PRODUCE THE HUMANITARIAN CRISIS THAT WE HAVE SEEN EVERY DAY SINCE JANUARY 20th, WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS SWORN IN. LARRY: YOU KNOW, SENATOR, I HONESTLY DID NOT KNOW THAT BACKSTORY. THAT HELPS TO EXPLAIN IT BECAUSE I COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT. I WANT TO GET YOU TO RECONCILIATION BEFORE WE LOSE YOU, LAST ONE ON THE IMMIGRATION STUFF, I MEAN, THEY HAVE HAD ALL YEAR TO GET THIS THING FIXED. THE NUMBERS CROSSING THE BORDER ILLEGALLY ARE GETTING LARGER, NOT SMALLER. >> YEP. I OFTEN WONDER, YOU KNOW THIS INFRASTRUCTURE BILL, WHY THE HECK DIDN'T OUR GOP FRIENDS I'LL SAY, BUT FRANKLY COULD BE DEMOCRATS TOO, PUT THE WALL IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE? WITH ALL OF THIS GOING ON NOW, I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER INFRASTRUCTURE PLAY THAN BUILDING A WALL ON THE BORDER? HOW DID NOT THAT GET DONE? >> NO DOUBT REPUBLICANS SHOULD HAVE FOUGHT FOR THAT TO GET IN THERE. AS IT CONCERNS THE DEMOCRATS, THE DEMOCRATS TODAY SUPPORT OPEN BORDERS. THIS IS A MAN-MADE CRISIS. YOU SHOWED THAT FOOTAGE OF BIDEN AT THE U.N. SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GET THE BORDER UNDER CONTROL. LET ME GIVE YOU A PLACE TO START, MR. PRESIDENT. COME TO THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY. SEE THE DISASTER THAT YOU HAVE CREATED. WE'VE HAD 1.2 MILLION ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS SINCE JOE BIDEN WAS SWORN IN AS PRESIDENT AND IT IS THE DIRECT RESULT OF POLITICAL DECISIONS THAT JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS HAVE MADE, IN PARTICULAR THREE DECISIONS. NUMBER ONE, ON DAY ONE, THEY IMMEDIATELY HALTED CONSTRUCTION OF THE BORDER WALL. LITERALLY DROPPED THEIR TOOLS. THERE IS RUSTING REBAR AND EQUIPMENT THAT IS JUST LAYING OUT THERE BECAUSE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION SAID WE DON'T CARE WE PAID THE CONTRACTORS. WE'RE NOT BUILDING ANOTHER INCH OF THE WALL. NUMBER TWO, THEY REINSTATED THE FAILED POLICY OF CATCH-AND-RELEASE T DOESN'T WORK T WAS A DISASTER, NUMBER THREE MOST CRITICALLY, THEY WITHDREW FROM THE INCREDIBLY SUCCESSFUL REMAIN IN MEXICO AGREEMENT. AS YOU KNOW, LARRY, REMAIN IN MEXICO WAS AN INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENT THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP NEGOTIATED WITH THE GOVERNMENT OF MEXICO THAT PROVIDED THAT ANYONE WHO CROSSES ILLEGALLY INTO MEXICO, TYPICALLY FROM CENTRAL OR SOUTH AMERICA WILL REMAIN IN MEXICO WHILE THEIR U.S. ASYLUM CASE IS PROCEEDING AND THAT AGREEMENT WAS UNBELIEVABLY SUCCESSFUL. LAST YEAR WE HAD THE LOWEST RATE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IN 45 YEARS. IT WAS AN HISTORIC SUCCESS. ON DAY ONE BIDEN RIPPED UP THAT AGREEMENT AND TODAY WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IN 21 YEARS. YOU KNOW WHAT JOE BIDEN DOESN'T WANT TO SEE? HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE THE BIDEN CAGES IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY, THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN, LITTLE BOYS AND LITTLE GIRLS PACKED INTO CAGES. I'VE BEEN THERE, I'VE SEEN THEM. BIDEN WON'T GO, KAMALA HARRIS WON'T GO. WHEN I WAS LASS DOWN IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THE RATE OF COVID POSITIVITY IN THE BIDEN CAGES FILLED WITH CHILDREN WAS 22%. IT IS A DISASTER. IT IS A MAN-MADE DISASTER. BECAUSE OF POLITICS, BIDEN AND HARRIS ARE UNWILLING TO FIX IT. LARRY: YEAH. SENATOR, IT IS WELL-SAID. THEY'RE LIKE A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS. THEY'RE UNABLE TO DO ANYTHING TO FIX THIS THING. LIKE THEY'RE THE ONLY PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY THAT DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS A CRISIS DOWN THERE. REALLY, THAT LITTLE WEST WING AREA, THERE, THE ONLY PART OF THE COUNTRY THAT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THIS. SIR, GET YOU QUICK ON THE LAST COUPLE. AT LEAST THE SENATE PARLIAMENTARIAN RULED ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AMNESTY OUT OF ORDER. SO THAT IS A SMALL PLUS. >> RIGHT. LARRY: BUT BESIDES THE INFLATION I-T SPENDING AND THE JOBS KILLING TAX HIKES, I WANT TO ASK YOU, DEMOCRATS NOW WANT REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE TO JOIN WITH THEM IN RAISING THE DEBT CEILING. NOW I'VE SEEN THIS MOVIE BEFORE, SIR, YOU HAVE TOO. WE WATCHED IT TOGETHER A FEW TIMES. >> YEP. LARRY: WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN HERE? WHY SHOULD YOU ALL JOIN THEM IN RAISING THE DEBT CEILING WHICH HAS BEEN BLOWN OUT BECAUSE OF THE SPENDING? WHY? >> I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I HOPE AND BELIEVE THAT REPUBLICANS WILL STAND FIRM. THE IMPORTANT THING TO UNDERSTAND IS THE DEMOCRATS ARE PLAYING A POLITICAL GAME HERE. SO THEY HAVE 100% POWER TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING ON THEIR OWN. THEY CAN DO IT ON RECONCILIATION. RECONCILIATION ONLY TAKES 50 VOTES IN THE SENATE. THE DEMOCRATS HAVE 50 VOTES IN THE SENATE. IT ONLY TAKE AS MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE. THE DEMOCRATS HAVE A MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE. WHAT YOU'RE SEEING CHUCK SCHUMER DO, HE DOESN'T WANT TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING USING DEMOCRATS. HE WANTS TO RACK UP NEW SPENDING, TRILLIONS OF NEW SPENDING, AND WANTS TO SHIFT POLITICAL BLAME. HE IS TRYING TO ADVANCE THE DEBT CEILING USING A PROCEDURAL VEHICLE REQUIRES 630 VOTES. HE WANTS TO GET 10 REPUBLICANS TO VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRATS MASSIVELY IRRESPONSIBLE SPENDING. I DON'T THINK IT WILL WORK. I HELPED LEAD 46 REPUBLICANS SIGNING A LETTER. 46 SIGNED A LETTER WE DON'T WANT ANY PARTS OF THE TRILLIONS OF DEBT YOU ARE BANKRUPTING OUR KID AND GRANDKIDS WITH. WHAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN, SCHUMER AND PELOSI PLAY CHICKEN. THEY'RE GOING TO THREATEN A DEFAULT. GOING TO THREATEN A SHUTDOWN. AT THE END OF THE DAY CHUCK SCHUMER AND NANCY PELOSI AND JOE BIDEN CAN RAISE THE DEBT CEILING ANYTIME THEY WANT. THEY DON'T NEED A REPUBLICAN VOTE. THEY'RE JUST PLAYING POLITICAL GAMES OTHERWISE. LARRY: THEY DON'T WANT TO OWN IT. THEY WILL NOT OWN IT. >> NOPE, THAT IS WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO. ALL THE SPENDING, BIDEN INFLATION. JOB KILLING TAX HIKES. I WISH I HAD MORE TIME WITH YOU SENATOR. SUCH A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU
