TANKFEST Online | The Tank Museum

[Music] are we online are we live we're live we're okay okay hello everybody I'm each of you the video content manager Walter thanks Europe today we're gonna be hosting the Tank Museum whoo we're gonna have a stream from and do everything right from there across across the little river that connects us we're gonna be having some tank action we're gonna be having some Tank Museum action for some historical information which will be sharing soon we're gonna have a bunch of gameplay at the end of the stream but for the very first part of it we're gonna be going with the tank museum with some really cool footage some real tank history as some experts all going on there so I'll head you over there to the very capable hands of David Willy and Richard cutland well hello everybody and I'm David Willy I'm the curator here at the Tank Museum involving turn which is in the southwest corner of England and I'm joined here today at the tank museum by my good friend and I'm Richard cutland I actually head up the military relations team for World of Tanks but previously to that for 30 years I had the honor of serving with the Royal Tank Regiment of the British Army so what we're going to be doing for you is putting on a show that is in place of what we'd normally be doing about this time of year which is our live tank fest event now we did delay tankfest we were hoping we were going to be able to do it later in the year we've now had to come back completely just on for us to be able to do tank fest in 2020 so what we've got for you now is some of the best bits from previous tank Fetzer so we can talk about some of the vehicles and we've got some other videos that were putting in there including some really great films from our European friends and North America other museums that have similar collections to ours and rich is going to take you through some of those museums I'll be coming on later on as David said some of the museums we can look forward to from Sweden we have the Swedish Tank Museum Arsenal in we have the museum Dublin Day and in France from Belgium we have the war heritage institutes we also have the Canadian War Museum the US Army armor and cavalry collection the Ducks will also be joining us from natural the national we apologies National Military Museum in partnership with a historic collection of the royal netherlands army now there's a mouth for david and finally we're also going to see a video from the superb museum that is in vienna of the Museum of military history so as you can imagine tankfest for a museum like ours were an independent charity this was one of our because it's not the biggest fundraising event of the year and we're lacking that which means that we don't make the money we would have made so unashamedly throughout the our broadcasts this afternoon we're going to be trying to encourage you to whether you go and get something on World of Tanks like wrap your tank in that new camouflage scheme we'll talk about that later on that we put on our yak Panther or whether we can persuade you to go to our online shop or the tank museum shop and buy some of this wonderful merchandise which surrounds me at the moment which will be doing showing you some of that a bit later on or joining our patreon scheme which people can support or just giving us a donation that's one of our key aims for the day we hope you think it's going to be worth it as well because obviously without that money we can't look after the collection we can't pay the stuff we can't put on another tank face next year so that's one of the key things we're trying to raise money and awareness of course throughout the afternoon if you want to ask us questions if you go through to either Facebook or YouTube or tankfest org that will give you some of the guidance as well you can ask us questions throughout the the course of our broadcast so we'll try and answer those as many of those as we can and it also takes you on a leave there to things such as our shop if you are trying to buy you know what's that interesting book you're trying to find on things so we'll be going through all of that and we're just about ready for offer so I think we are just to remind there before we forget a thank you already it's all the World of Tanks players as you know the 131 bundles have actually sold out we are going to extend it so keep an eye on all of the World of Tanks channels social media and the portals etc and we will extend that sail at some point in the future but keep your eye on news for that so anyway let's kick off this show for the next three hours and we'll start off with an introduction to the tank Museum and tank first the tank museum Bovington UK the home of the tank the home of tank fest and home to one of the finest collections of armor in the world the Tank Museum tells the story of the tank and the people that served in them there are 300 vehicles here most of which are displayed inside the museum's large halls in fascinating modern exhibitions you'll come face-to-face with tanks that have seen action in every major conflict since the first world war from the world's first tank to some of the latest there is an extensive world war ii collection and unique examples of the prototypes that didn't quite make the grade with a workshop facility and an extensive archive even supporting collection the tank museum is a center of armored excellence sharing its passion with a global audience on its YouTube channel Bovington is regarded as the home of the tank because it was here that the tank caught the world's first tank regiment made its home in 1916 this remote rural location was ideal for training tank soldiers with British Commonwealth and US troops all passing through the gates of Bovington camp before heading to the frontlines over a century later it remains a major training center for British soldiers learning to fight in tanks the tank museum was formed in 1923 as a military teaching collection when the First World War ended in 1918 hundreds of tanks began accumulating in the fields around bobbington waiting to be cut up for scrap but thanks to an important intervention rumor suggests it was jungle book author Rudyard Kipling one of each type was fenced off and saved during the interwar years the collection continued to grow but at the outbreak of the Second World War some of the collection was sacrificed in the drive for scrap metal others were only saved because they were employed as anti invasion defences at road junctions around the garrison at the end of the war the Tank Museum accepted a significant number of new donations from the Army these included many examples of Allied vehicles and a significant number of captured axis tanks when the Tank Museum opened to the public in the 1950s admission was free and visitors could climb on and inside the vehicles to their heart's content a new era began at the Tank Museum in 2009 with the completion of a multi-million pound redevelopment project and the opening of the flagship tank story exhibition since then visitor numbers have continued to grow allowing the tank museum to continue to develop its exhibitions and infuse a new generation in the story of armored warfare and there is much more to look forward to from bobbington but if there's one event in the museum's calendar which highlights the growing enthusiasm for our subjects then tankfest would be it the first-ever tankfest took place in 2000 with fewer than 1,000 visitors on a single afternoon it was a small affair by modern standards and run entirely by volunteers but the objective of the event remains the same today to operate a range of historic armor that simply cannot be seen anywhere else the third tank first in 2004 attracted 6,000 visitors who turned out to see Tiger 1-3-1 run in public for their first time since his capture in 1943 the event went annual in 2008 and also became a two-day show by 2010 attendances had crossed the 10,000 mark and in 2014 World of Tanks became the events main sponsor it's a partnership that has endured and seen attendances continued to grow by making tankfest a sellout every year and as a result it's the most important fundraising event in the tank museum calendar the last event in 2019 welcomes 25,000 visitors across three action over the years we've displayed some of the finest running armor in existence from our own collection from the military from private collections and from other military museums during this live stream we will be highlighting some of the most interesting examples from past events and bringing new vehicles from some of the best collections in Europe and North America g'tok Ovid 19 we were forced to postpone what would have been our 20th anniversary show this weekend and now we need your support the tank museum like all museums featured in this live stream has been forced to close its doors during the pandemic the loss of revenue has hit us all hard as admission fees and event tickets are the primary means by which we earn the funds required to survive so if you appreciate what we are presenting in this stream please consider supporting the Tank Museum and any other of the featured museums and help us keep these machines in order and their stories alive for generations to come remember as a not-for-profit organization our work is funded entirely by people like you you can support us by backing our patreon buying something from our online store joining our friends scheme or simply by making a donation using PayPal giving find out more at tankfest dot org now sit back and enjoy tankfest online there's a world finest collection of Tanks in action for free a fantastic video David said they wouldn't you recall all about saying first then the first one I remember the the it was dance right then our workshop manager Mike Aten really got it organized and put it on and the brief and it's funny how these things come back the full circle brief at the time back then was it was there please don't waste any money you know as long as he didn't spend any money you can put this show on that was basically idea and of course it's developed into this tremendous or biggest single event of the year in terms of making money for the museum it was very basic early days but you could see that idea of you know we weren't the first to put drive tanks around at Bovington the army used to do it battle days used to have all sorts of different things but that sense of how its built I can't imagine anyone back in 2000 thought this is what it would lead to after all that amount of time and obviously what with you guys getting involved in everything and it's interesting because of course you were based down here at bobbington you probably got your own memories of battle days and even before that yes funny I mean the museum has become probably a lot more my heart than just the museum and the area of course is it mentioned on the video you know of course the the tank core being based down here as well but when I was 16 so I joined the Army at 16 and was in my basic training down here across the road in Stanley barracks the junior leaders Regiment of the Royal armoured course I remember being petrified dropped off at the front gate with my father and for the next 18 months I was in there the museum was in existence then obviously it wasn't anywhere like this I mean their transformation since that period has been absolutely incredible to see and it was you know the place for us to go and it wasn't just the museum we were absolutely obviously obsessed with looking at the museum we were lucky because we got special access as well we were allowed to come in and after hours sometimes and the curator at that time used to allow us to have a look inside some of the vehicles we felt very lucky indeed compared to the general public but it was also a place to escape obviously basic training in the Army's hard work both mentally and physically so it was somewhere we could go for an hour escape across the eye of a cup of tea a wander around it was the peace enquire and I've been you know somewhere to really wind down for a bit and then the whole area actually became part of my whole army career really because I then went from finishing my basic training there left there as a qualified gunner on chief 10 which we talk about later on and then I went to join my regiment which at the time was the third Royal Tank Regiment which was based in Paderborn in Germany but then I came back later in my career after promotion etc etcetera and I served for two years just down the road at the gunnery school in lulworth became schools instructor down there we also worked a bit with a tdu the trials and development unit up the road there as well so the whole areas really been important to me and even warm it's there which is not a million miles away and I did a couple of years there as a tactics instructor as well so as I said yeah it means a real lot to me this place so bovington you obviously today we're going to be looking mainly at tanks but one of the big stories we tell here at the Tank Museum is about people and the men that serve in tanks and we we now the good news we can tell you now as well we are going to reopen the museum ticket only you're gonna have to pre booked have a look online on July the six and you some of you will have that opportunity if you can visit we've just done a new World War two displays just about finished we were hoping to have opened it earlier in May and there we tell the story of the British tank crewman in the Second World War and as you're coming around that I'll display behind us here with the King Tiger behind me and the Luke's that's part of the Normandy section of this new display that will be able or some of you will be able to see when you revisit the museum as I said July the six but do go on to our website so that you checked out all about ticket bookings etc because we've still got a week 19 issues going along so what have we been doing we've been doing that preparation we've been putting a lot of stuff on YouTube so again obviously this afternoon you'll be seeing what's going on now but also have a look at our YouTube channel because we've done lots of other question-and-answer sessions other videos other talks and there's all our tank chats as well so that's one of the things that will refer to as we go through if you want to know more about some of these vehicles go onto our website and have a look at the tank chats there now Richard over the years of course for me personally one of the things I've really loved about every single tank fest was the arena show the chance to see new vehicles actually driving around and really the voice behind that show as always again over the years become synonymous with mr. David Willie and his dulcet tones as he talks about these vehicles so let's move straight on now we're going to go across and look at the first of our arena shows and our tanks in action with World War one and the interwar tanks and that's going to be followed straightaway by a video from our friends in this food Museum so we're really privileged here at the tech museum because we've got this this is our Mona Lisa you're looking at this is little Willy what most people recognize that the first tank ever built many countries we're not going to deny it many countries have thought of the idea of something that we think of now is the tank we're going to see later on in Vienna there was a an Austrian officer of Burstyn who comes up with a design that just looks like almost you know like a modern tank and that was before the First World War Lancelot de Mol in Australia lots other people come up with the idea of some form of motorized armored vehicle that can cross a battlefield it's World War one that puts the pressure on that makes this a an item that's really really needed and what happens is after the Western Front settles down after an initial war of maneuver and that starts in August of 1914 by Christmas the lines of static the British the French what's left of the belgian army have to force out that occupying German army what are we going to do about it so they start by looking at things like armored tractors etc and in the end something called the landships committee Commission Foster's of Lincoln to build this vehicle it's actually put together in six weeks and it was going to have a turret on the top there this is the second iteration of it with tracks that little Willy doesn't actually get active service it's a testbed really this what we're looking at now is what the British Army ends up using it's that classic rhomboid shaped tank this particular one is a replica mark for the mark four was the one Britain made the most of the mark one goes into action in September of 1916 this is the tank the mark four that we build about a thousand of and over three hundred go into action at the Battle of corn braid this replica by the way you can see buzz there driving that's in looking at it it's controlled by everything in there is actually bare based on a high under digger engine because what happened is Steven Spielberg's company they came down to Covington they make it up I'll mark full tank we've got a real one there and they did this for the warhorse movie built the replica and at the end of the filming we were able to acquire the replica so we can drive this thing around and we'll talk a little bit later about the issues about driving real tanks around all the time and some of the problems we have retired are to First World War tanks that were runners we did that before the first world war anniversaries very much in mind we're thinking about preservation we just needed to look after those vehicles that were getting a bit broken around the edges and so with this wonderful replica we can do this which is filming show it like this to people and give you that impression look at that view there of water tank might have been like coming forward to a German infantryman in a tank in a trench sort of waiting for it now the Germans their initial response to the tank they weren't too worried about it that very first tank attack wasn't that successful but they started a program that led to this the a7v 18 man crew by the end of the war they'd only actually built 20 of these walking greatly like a house on track sir doesn't it it ended up with a gun howitzer in the front machine gun spotted around the side 20 of them built not that effective the French were looking at the idea pretty much the same time as a British because again French got the same problem how are we going to put out that occupying German army so with this tank this is a sanctioned the first French tank is a tank called the Schneider relatively small but still the same problem as this one the same come on they use the Holt tractor as its suspension and track system and you can see they try to extend it it's not that long and so both this tank the sanctioned and its predecessor the Schneider have big overhangs either ends and you can imagine on the pretty rough battle through that's not going to do you any good eight-man crew 75 millimetres of classic French artillery piece stuck in the front there and they do see action they are not that successful they are getting bogged down getting trapped in mud any sort of banking this thing tends to get stuck the amazing thing about it though is inside there is petrol electric drive right back in the first world war you've got petrol electric so an engine that's actually powering little electric motors now this is our it's technically not a first world war vehicle this is our 1920 pattern Rolls Royce but it looks pretty much as they did in the First World War the Rolls Royce obviously that amazing the Silver Ghost amazing car very reliable beautifully built armor plate on the top of it and it tends to go on forever and this particular one was built in Derby in 1920 it's saw action around the world it was in Shanghai in the late 1920s this was still patrolling the coastline of Norfolk in the beginning of the Second World War and under there you can just about see glinting there that radiator that's your classic rolls-royce Silver Ghost radiator red letters not black they changed and black after Rolls died and but there you've got a vehicle that was that one end of a spectrum why not buy the best vehicle going put on the plate on it and it keeps going forever and it's a pleasure this is another one of these vehicles anyone who drives it will tell you what a wonderful vehicle it needs to drive and all the old jokes about you know is it running so and everything because the engine is so quiet so silent they double up the wheels at the back it's about the only real difference there in strength in the springs for just over a three ton armored vehicle so you're looking there with a vehicle but a bit of a rarity and another rarity here this was where we had the opportunity of driving our Vickers medium tank after the first world war Britain does retain tanks and it has about five battalions of those rhomboid Malfoy's it's just odd to get the medium dealing but Vickers becomes the only real tank design workshop in the UK and they are so recall for the military in about 1923 they want a vehicle and here we've got one but becomes a vehicle that Britain really trains with a couple hundred made it really trains with them in experiments with them in the Train and thirties and at the time this is a complete world beater three pounder gun so a high-velocity gun so that could take on other tanks if it ever met them and really importantly a three-man turret and the next tank that comes along that goes into production and a three-man turret is the Panzer three why is it so important is because it means the commander can command you've got a gunner who's actually laying or aiming the gun and on the other side you've got a loader down the front you've actually got a driver in his own little sort of box you can see him there with his head out with the front-engine next stream and you can actually duplicate you can have other guys firing machine guns three Vickers machine guns set around the side so a tank that whenever it appears it always looks you know rather dated and everything but when it comes into service cutting edge and the tank or using this vehicle up on Salisbury Plain at the end of the 1920s with other armored vehicles like little Scout vehicles troops in trucks etc something called the mechanized force experimenting with the idea what can we do with a mechanized force against traditional forces so cavalry on horseback marching infantry and the British High Command they fall for the idea they think it's a great idea what happens is a 1930 depression no one especially Britain has any money to be able to do much with that into the 1930s says we also have something called the ten year rule we're not going to go to war for ten years so it's only really from about 1930 for that rearmament in Britain begins and the money tends to go for aeroplanes for defense and the Navy tanks a low down the list but we start building tanks again from about early the 1930s but this is a real rarity Singlish driving around classic British vehicle of that period and something that again you know you'll I doubt very much it'll get out again because it's now back inside the museum so as a runner this was one of those moments where of seeing there's only another one of these left in South Africa I believe in a bit of a rusty one over and for anything America so quite something to see there they also very adaptable they took the turrets off and made one a command post they did another sort of version for tearing artillery as well so another one of these vehicles that early days in production runs where people realizing a costly vehicle let's try multitasking let's get than we possibly can from it now here we've got another strand of vehicles that was being built in the 20s and 30s Vic has also invested in light tanks and the army were buying these this is a mark for probably our earliest running track vehicle at the moment and this was really kindly sat in the sheds looking a bit for long for itself a chap came along and offered us the money for restoring it so we restored this one to men crews last to the light tanks but Vickers ended up they came up with a light 6b these were the tanks of Britain was starting to build before the Second World War to also give factories some form of a knowledge base of experience in building tanks before World War two came along so there's some of the British tanks were going around we're now going to go to Sweden and look at one of their vehicles welcome to Sweden under switch tank museum Russian Orlan we are located one hour drive west of Stockholm and we are open all year in a museum you can have a look at the development of the tanks and military vehicles from first world war till present day and we don't only have them Swedish because we also have a lot of foreign vehicles to show the impact on history and why we developed a tank industry in Sweden we have a few very unique vehicles that's only possible to see here in Sweden the only examples in the world so it's an interesting collection from many aspects you can follow us on social media Facebook YouTube Instagram and of course our homepage today we are going to show you a tank that's only possible to see live here in Sweden 100 years old German tank from the first world war the German LK - made in 1918 and juiced in Sweden from 1922 to 1930 and we will present it to you in a few seconds what we're looking at now is quite amazing vehicle this is a vehicle that the Swedes called an L okay - but what it really is is a German tank of the First World War now we saw earlier that mock-up a7v which was a sand V is the actual abbreviation of the design bureau or the the office in the german military that was looking after motorization and this is a vehicle that hands mulmer who designs the a7v comes up with it looks a bit like the british whippet tank so you've got the engine in the front this Barbet as it were at the back you can see there the driver looking out of it and a little turret with a machine gun on what happens is two prototypes are made by July of 1980 but they don't see action they don't go into production but Sweden secretly after the first world war in negotiates with the Germans and they buy innocent wasp becomes about the kit for 20 of these LK 2 tanks and they're taken over to Sweden five of them are later upgraded and that's what we're looking up here is one of the upgraded ones they put a new scanning or engine in the original Benz it wasn't really powerful enough and amazingly quite a number of these ended up surviving of the 10:1 was gifted back to the German the Panzer museum in Munster there's one of the five earlier models is on display inside the museum and this is one of the models that they got going again with tremendous restoration project started back I think it was about 2018 they got help from industry volunteers all sorts of people there and when you think what they're trying to do they're putting together a vehicle of that age and the dates back from the nineteen twenties is really really quite something so you're looking at a piece of German First World War tank design as adapted and used by the Swedes and these tanks Sweden ends up becoming a tank producing nation that's the other thing which is quite interesting seeing which countries take up tanks sometimes buying in tanks from abroad as Sweden did here then but then they build their own factories and their own defensive industries and Sweden's one of the few countries left in the world at the moment they're still basically with hagglunds can still put together a fairly sizable armored vehicle so this L Keitel I think Richard you've actually been out there and you've seen this one driving around I mean fantastic restoration I have to say Stefan is done they his team they're considering all volunteers as well as done an incredible job on there something like five thousand man-hours to get this ready in a four and a half year restoration process so a truly incredible vehicle and well worth doing so and if you've not been imeem I've been out there as well this is their their museum there is quite a stunning museum because of range of vehicles they've actually got in place is quite something as Stefan was showing us sort of thing and they do again an event similar to our time fist and I know you guys have also put in place there another one of your games areas haven't you yes we have yeah we've got a gaming area there as well and I can't believe Stefan didn't showcase her and it stank yeah we have a nice tank here but I think it costs the amount of money to keep one of those going his name was there Harlan and if you want to come and visit us please do and in the meantime you can follow us on social media Instagram Facebook YouTube and of course the homepage hope to see you soon again bye bye so we were saying earlier when we look like some stiff and he's a good little tickle around the ribs sometimes but he's actually a lot of a guy very friendly if you do go over there and that he does smile and break into small and another one that if you look on their website they do some cracking films as well so we're Stefan's done a lovely little video on how you have eat your food in a tank and some of the history behind that and a beautifully a real friendly family or or inside museums anyway there is you have your chance to go to Sweden so David we've got a first of a couple of questions for you actually so before we forget so we've got first one from YouTube and Matt SMO is it true that a world war one tank was used at Parrish Mel gap just down the road as an anti-tank invasion gunnery identified a first level one we do know our First World War collection was dragged out around bobbington so there are pictures of them the dead tanks are actually put at certain road junctions as basically static pillboxes as potential down an irish mill is a photograph of a Vickers medium we saw that just driving around in one of our displays there's a photograph of one of those actually activated down there in the between they're almost the tank traps there it is in the center position there there was a First World War tank on low well actually wasn't on loan it was what they called a memorial tank it was in portsmouth dockyard at the place whale oil in the gunnery school they actually got that working in World War two and it patrolled it drove around the dockyard as again anti invasion measure apparently luckily for the tank and probably Britain as a whole we weren't invaded so it the only actual action he got apparently one evening it got slightly lost and he drove over a doctor's car that parked his car in one place so that was the end of the doctor's car but III know that there's lots of different stories about you know because again in the summer of 1940 the desperation we've got some of the vehicles here of trying to put an armored vehicle together quickly because quite frankly anything was going to be better than nothing so half the collection here goes out and starts ending up trying to defend bluffington just perhaps clear for everybody it's down at law with Irish mobile gapped down those who's where the ranges are so we actually you know we take the tanks down there and we fire out to see which is always quite amusing she always worried that in case you get the wrong scale on the graphical pattern in the tank it might you know fara hair and off to the coast of Calais or something another question for you here from Facebook this time David from millon you Jankovic I do apologize I hustle alright what caused the damage to the Front's of Little Willie good question and as I mentioned so before Willie doesn't see any action it's used as a first of all that sort of kind of like testbed second type of track is the type that they use on all the British back there in another spot on the upper Irish male gap and they're not Irish male gap sorry it's at one of the training areas just outside London there stills photographs of it there but I think what's happened is at some point when it's been either here down and Bovington used to be outside like most of the original part of the collection someone's put something like a metal are through that front piece and dragged it to get it to the position they want and that is quietly peeled off what was just mild steel it's not armor plate on the vehicle so it's just peeled it back so that's that damage and like a lot of vehicles here their history is quite checkered this idea we try and keep them in the drive we look after them as best we can now in the past these have been sat outside works like yourself we're playing on their back you know so it was well I remember the first more visit here I got told off on them economy in the belly player hat fisherman getting covered in oil so all those things things have changed obviously over time but that's the damage there certainly isn't battle damage and I think it's time for we moved on to our next piece and now the next segment we've got is probably one of our longest videos it is so might give us a chance to have a sip of water or something there's something about talk to there's something about talk to its the biggest heaviest vehicle in our entire collection nowadays it's one of our most popular exhibits and it was of course a complete and total failure as the only survivor of a failed program it played no part in the wall that swords creation in fact it's amazing that it survived at all for many years it's sat here in a quiet corner of a museum alongside other failures such as Excelsior and valiant and there is that ignored by everybody until something amazing happened and yet it just has such a charm and character the cool following since and it's not really all that wonderful a machine it is dearly beloved by so many people song is lovely talkies microphone he wants to be friends with it dogs of the party tank everybody loves that you do not get this in any of the top dog is quite happy at victims come to talk hi there so I've been asked to explain the origins of my love for the talk to tank and it's quite a simple answer I wasn't even aware that the tank existed until it was introduced into the game world of tanks and the first time I ever saw talked to was in the game World of Tanks and I can remember it clearly because I and everybody else on my team when we saw this thing we completely forgot about even attempting to fight the enemy and instead of what he just drove their tanks in circles around the tog just kind of marveling at its it sheer majestic unbridled eccentric British majesty we couldn't believe that such a thing had ever actually existed and of course it did and in fact still does because they have won the only one at the Tank Museum involving tainha and just the the sheer impracticality of the machine endeared it to me I mean it was a machine that was designed to win the first world war just in time for the second row with it's possibly one of the worst tanks ever made and yet it just has such charm and character that it is dearly loved by so many people and that is how I first learned of the tog 2 and why I love it as much as I do I was going to tell you a joke about the talk but it was too long it was designed for a war that never was going to happen because they thought that there be a new Western Front between the Maginot Line and the Siegfried line which is where this tank is going to play about but in fact it would be designed for a war that have been over for 20 years to the time they got round to building it so it was a complete waste of time waste of resources and everything far too big and far too clumsy to use as a fighting thing unfortunately talk not very fast so top was designed by the same design to have been central in First World War tank design it was built by the same company who made Little Willie the world's first ever tank work began in earnest buying the old gang in September 1939 but with the advent of blitzkrieg and fast moving Panzer divisions it became clear that the second world war with not witness the kind of stalemate that we saw in the first now over an extended period various design changes were made to the tog to keep trying to bring it up to date but with the continuous evolving of warfare coupled with successful designs like like a Cromwell Sherman and others modern tanks tog proved to be continuously obsolete and eventually the product was abandoned 18:44 tog came to the museum in the 1950s from a british defense research unit and it sat outside before being brought indoors in the late 1980s that's tremendous size weight and scale means that moving this vehicle is no easy feat and put in its current location required the combined services of a chieftain armored recovery vehicle with a huge amount of washing up liquid and that's how it got to where it is today but that wasn't the end of the story tog does not have time for artillery the tog has been in World of Tanks longer than some people have been playing relatively unknown to many tank enthusiasts and gamers once it was putting all the tanks it became a huge hit and it's developed a bit of a cult following since it's a very unique play style in that it has a huge amount of hit points a very large profile and high rate of fire gun it doesn't really use finesse to get victory but more just bully your opponents through sheer brawling power enemies love it because it's easy to hit and your allies love it because they get to hide behind you from enemies shooting at them and yeah that it's a very simple tank in just the game speaking of the cult following it's become much like Marmite house either you love it or you'll hate it for its type of play style and it's just yeah tog is love talk his life as I say they did say it was difficult to steer I don't believe that for a minute there's so much of this tank behind the turret going back for miles it seems my name is hunter hills and I've been asked by the tank museum of Bovington to give a short defensive talk to why have they asked me well I'm the guy who wrote the book on the work at the special vehicle development committee that's the official name for the whole game why did I choose to dedicate several years of work to that well because it's a mechanically fascinating vehicle for example the driver could move around the speeds of up to 12 miles an hour for let's speeds equivalent to America like the puns for medium titles ads about the fact that it can plastered defenses and obstacles like babu-bhaiya otherwise impenetrable to contemporary British tanks and that's an impressive vehicle especially when you consider its weighs over 70 tons why is it so big well that's easy he was designed by criteria set by the military and in 1939 for vehicles which had to be able to cross a 16-foot white trench without Britain included you just don't do that unless you take this very long it's that high because the only engine powerful and available enough was a large wearing diesel engine and it's like to make manufactory easier add to this the fact that it had to be immune to enemy anti-tank guns and carry gun capable of smashing German concrete bunkers and you'll have a virtually impossible set of criteria yet these men achieved it I talked to in fact marks a significant milestone for British tank technology torsion bar suspension hyperdrive modular construction a giant gun whether it's the 28 or 17 pounder for sure it's not a handsome tank but it is a magnificent piece of work from the brilliant engineering efforts of men works our concerns Harry Ricardo Salter Wilson Sir William Tritton and others the fact that these men were all wood is irrelevant the fact that they built the near possible is not and that's why I talk to is important for sure it's not without problems but what these men achieved was incredible creating a vehicle superior to the Churchill and dare I say even the famous German Tiger much like Marmite has I think you'll love it or hate it whichever side of the debate you fall on an experiment like tog really exemplifies the value of a museum like this one because without the existence of a Tank Museum there have been no reason to preserve this vehicle and it would simply have gone to scrap Hey did it fight in the 20th century's most significant conflicts Denver sauce service action according to David flexure the only reason it was preserved was its sheer idiosyncrasy and quirkiness there was simply nothing else like it in existence and that made it worth holding on to for the Tank Museum and its survival and its preservation meant that had the opportunity to become famous through World of Tanks and legions of fans have come to visit the tank here in bobbington it began to debate the nature of armored warfare and because of that interest because of that engagement we will continue to preserve this bizarre tale for generations to come [Music] so we're back again back again and I think it'll be very you being a lot of trouble David you didn't just mention some of the top merchandise so if you go on offshore go to the follow to the top there is a plethora of t-shirts witty and not so witty ones altar daily tog you can buy a fridge magnet you can buy you name it if you're a top fan that's the place to go to and it's also one of those tanks I know we've talked about it earlier on but where the game has bought interest in that tank again you know back to this idea of when I first came here Table Talk was always going to be a big and impressive tank and it's actually an hour to me or haul you saw the photograph of it they're being moved that used to be the front of the museum and quite frankly when mister to me and the model makers sponsored having that whole bill many moons ago the tank was inside you know just literally left there and the roof built over the top of it that big but another tank that there's again as Norma's amount of interest now because of the gang he's taught us and that's another tank we see a little bit later on where those vehicles that because of the level of interest across some of the more obscure the the wacky the bigger the the first see all these ones and those paper things as well the world getting but that's where it's brought an interest it just wasn't there I just certainly my Tom I didn't see before I've got a couple of questions actually if he David one from did it a Christian on YouTube is the gun on top to you a 17 pounder it is on currently but talks another one of those vehicles that go through a number of iterations you starts off with you know you can see those pictures mid till the turret all sorts of things to pounds but yes at the moment talk has got a 17-pound wrong with that big slab-sided turret that was being designed really that there goes on the Challenger tank a says later and another question I get casper from Facebook again talk to and I love this question I hope is going to be a good answer if those days can we restore to running condition yeah well haven't ready for you no problems at all we'll have it running around outside its some it is a major major you're undertaking and maybe at some point later on we'll talk about again do go to I mean I was just just looking at various things we're trying to promote here we do a question and answer session for our patrons and there's a number of these issues to come up time and time again you can imagine the the topic about you know why what's worth returning to running order what are the costs the issues involved we're going to see a tank in a moment that we recorded for the public how that restoration when all those are things gut feeling quick answer no you're not going to see top running around because we're going to need a much bigger arena we're gonna need an awful lot of money for doing things like that which is why just to give you a little bit of optimistic hope if you keep buying things from our shop or joining our patreon scheme we'll be able to rest all those other ones that are already on the list that we've got to get done so come on David if there was discussion about renovating the Mouse surely you can renovate a toilet oh yes yeah talk about not a vehicle that our museum of course they say so yes so looking at that but do please go and have a look if you if you are interest if you're big top guys we have got some great top merchandise out there so you'll be doing your your duty by buying one of those t-shirts and we did have the one we were talking about Sweden the volunteers and that sort of thing as well I've seen think it's important to raise you want a chance organization down there but you've got an awful lot of volunteers that work with you as well yeah not just us you'll see in a lot of those museums that we'll be showcasing with their videos we have a corps of staff you know hopefully paid knowing what they're doing at everything but actually it's that massive group of volunteers in lots of different areas so we've got archive and library we've got people who help guide the people here so guides we've got workshop staff we've got people to come in for special events we've got people driving the vehicles helping maintain them most museums in fact an awful lot of the heritage sector couldn't exist without the volunteers so yes again you know thank you I was popped in here yesterday so Saturday afternoon we have some volunteers in there cleaning these tanks ready for our July the six opening so it's things like that that make us be able to do what we can do in certainly tankfest could not take part or we couldn't do it full stop without those volunteers coming along and assisting us so vital to museum sector so back to the show and again we're back to you David in the arena but this time we're going to have a look at a selection of early World War 2 vehicles followed by our second guest museum museum the blonde a the French Tank Museum now we've been really lucky at the Tank Museum because many thanks the world of tank to you all the guys and there you are on the posters behind there on our vehicle Conservation Center you've been able to fund getting vehicles you know quite frankly these a lot of money moving tanks around the place and this is one of the vehicles that came across from the French tank museum that's based in Sonora this is their running shabi tank and this is one of those vehicles that when you look at it go back to those images we saw of our first world war tanks you can see that design process started just after the first world war and it's with that first world war attack in mind it's got a howitzer in the hull of 75 millimeter gun there and the forty seven millimeter an anti-tank gun up in that one mandatory and that one man turret will see again because it appears on a number of French tanks in the 20s and 30s the design process of competitions of various things that went into making the Sharpie meant that they weren't really ready till much later on 33 to 37 they start building the first series of these tanks and 369 of them are ready by the beginning of the Second World War really think of them as walking greatly breakthrough tanks this tank coming on this is all Matilda 1 and in Britain so we looked at that medium deal about 1933 Hugh Ellis is in charge of those master wardens he says Britain's going to need two main types of Tanks Matilda one that you're seeing here is what they're going to call an infantry tank and it's going to support the infantry on the attack so thick armor because it's bound to be slow it's gonna take some punishment machine gun because it needs to suppress the enemy soldiers and your infantry going to march on behind it and that was the idea behind them there were some of them were issued with what they call a 50 caliber browning machine of Vickers machine gun it's got more punch yes it might have gone through some of the early tanks it might have meant but really this is a tank that's there but going across a battlefield 15,000 guineas to develop each tank cost about 5,000 guineas and it's when we start rearming from 1934 Rob woods these are those first model of infantry tank they put into service even as it into service they're designing this one the replacement this is the second type of infantry tank the British decide to go for and we call it the Matilda 2 and it's an absolute battle winner early in the war it's heavily armoured very thick armor on the front it's got the British two pounder gun which is about a 40 millimeter gun everyone gets confused why 2 pounder weight of solid shot it far as these two pounds in the old weighing system if you make idli hole at the end in a barrel that's 40 millimetres of course so if in modern apology tent two minutes ago thick armor as I mentioned and they're in that turret you get they do try and squeeze three guys in there they do a version of it with a howitzer in as well for court they call close support fire smoke rounds or high-explosive rounds and this tank out in France proves the real shock to the Germans because basically the armor is so thick it was impervious to the standard German 37 millimeter anti-tank guns and it's hit the reading reports of that anti-tank gun the rounds bouncing off we just saw the sharpie and the Matilda 2 and that's what leads him to initiate the famous tiger tank project to get that going now I mentioned this tank because this tank has gone through a full restoration to go on to our YouTube channel or go on the website you can follow the links there Mathilde Diaries and it takes you through the whole restoration of a vehicle to be honest when we started this one we thought had just got a few mechanical problems and it's how we then have to take it all apart put it back together what ends up happening with it and we put that aside you can see that it says the Princess Royal because Princess Anne came down and with our new workshops and there she was so sitting there in front now this tank coming on this is a Valentine this is actually the third type of infantry tank that Britain produced but we ended up using in a slightly different way yes it's still got thick armor it has a 2 pounder gun on but we ended up using it for the other type of rolled tank serves whoever's in business which is a cruiser tank so going a bit faster and actually being used for the breakthrough that the infantry tanks you know to break out into territory behind the front line and the Valentine is actually a tank I think it's six to eight thousand made 2,000 over in Canada that mainly the Canadian made ones go off to Russia as part of lend-lease supporting the Russians and it's actually a very popular tank you know it's reliable Vickers design it's it's got good reliability which again is a tremendously thinking the tank and and it sees a lot of service and it's used a lot of variants and here we've got John Pearson's privately owned Valentine DD tank the first thing they try and float is actually a tech Rock Nicholas Straus lilliputs that canvas screen around the vehicle put it in water displaces enough to make it float dd-do plucks drive two ways to drive here one by the propeller on the back the other by the tracks when it's on land and you raise that screen what looked like a sausage a canvas around it at the moment comes up held up by inflated tubes and struts and it floats ashore d-day of course they actually use Sherman ones but we train on DD Valentines and this is another classic we don't run anymore this is in our currently in our new display hall I think it is we've we're putting that in our New World War two display it's a crusader Crusader was basically the crews of three tank and this version we've got the six pounder gun on the Crusader tend to get a bit of a bad reputation it had a Liberty engine in the back the first models with the two pounder gun on had great reliability problems overheating problems with equivalent this by the time of Crusader three they've actually owned a lot of those out and this is a tank that can go fast because it's got Christie suspension those big wheels on the side indicating your Christie suspension they have Springs on that have a lot of playing so they can go up and down so that means you can move at speed liberty engine gave it a lot of power and by the time as we've seen here the six pounder gun on that's a lot of punch on the tank that that will go through that will take on at the time limbs and if there's a your pounds of freezing pounds of so the Crusader itse service in North Africa of course the desert campaign finishes up in Tunisia but then it doesn't go to Italy but the body is used now they've got it more reliable they use it for the basis of certain anti-aircraft carrying things with the turrets with Oerlikons on they were used for the d-day landing so so once they've got it right it was actually a rather good vehicle now looking at our famous this is our Pam's of three that's been a rather a long time this is the sort of tank that that Crusader would have been going up against this is an L model on the Panzer 3 so basically al strong you know or mark or delineation ABC you work your way through this is up to the L model so the Germans are constantly working on their tanks coming up with an improved version or sometimes a simplified version of that tank the L has extra armor bolted on to the front you can see there there's a machine gun a ball mount from machine gun on the left hand side as you look at it and the drivers visor on the right hand side this has now got the long-barreled 50 millimeter gun on the Panzer 3 originally starts its life was just that 37 millimeters standard anti-tank gun short barreled 50 millimeter then a long barreled and they end up actually swapping roles with the panzer 4 we'll see a panzer 4 in a little while but not driving around the arena pounds of fries and pANSA falls were the tanks of germany built really to go to war with and the irony is even they were they were supposed to do different roles this really is the cruiser tank equivalent with the British this is the one that goes through the gaps in the frontline Panzer Paul was supposed to be the one that has the the close support weapon on it that fires high explosive both tanks ended up looking pretty much the same which is a bit of an irony there now this is our Stuart Americans here m3 tank nice early one this is actually privately loan but on loan Tank Museum you can tell it's an early one by those where the drivers looking out of the front high rear because it's got that radial aircraft engine in the back and the transmission goes right the way through to the front you can see that drive sprocket the toothed wheel on the front there and this version is the N 3 version we'll see in a moment the m5 ocean they didn't call them in full version you should have done the next one because I thought it would get confused with the m4 Sherman so this one were able to drive around again that American design from the 19th late 1930s they're designing they are building very few tanks when the war comes that's when they've got things like suspension systems engines ready various components lines up that they can start putting together and profuse very very quickly things like the m3 tank then the m3 Stuart as were looking at here than the m5 student of a bit later on an improvement and of course the very famous m3 grand tank which is a bit of mentoring model before the m4 Sherman now there's our later you can tell the difference smooth front that makes an m5 version of the Stuart this one's got deep wading apparatus on us on it now we're gonna have another look at another one on museums now after France welcome to falsi you some assume you surely border alwah New Zealand a nice day general Sen new jacket did not lead our army forces Palmolive American Girl Louisa did not they say the military so fast exposition gamma not to do do so vehicle for knowledge settlers show the music it were to turn a la orden we deserve Vasanti me visitors the receded representative Hospital Stan so tourists were a party of the winners on self-driven who presently conclusion the principle yes exclusive Dawson an improvement of all the damage then community to the operational process the Shaad Randhawa it assumed you are considered a camellia shadow to the village a home that I combine to form the winners account lately restore s attorney for the commemoration the Catherine's a man neither self black op indifference so Colonel Pierre there we've had the pleasure to meet and we meet regularly we have an annual tank net meeting which means that all the main military museums with tanks we get together once a year and we've had the pleasure of going to similar as well which we'll talk about in a moment this is their Samoa tank this is one of those tanks again we tend to have four we were trying to you know constantly not that myth that in 1940 when the German Panzer forces attacked France somehow they've got better tanks the Germans etc not the case at all in terms of numbers and quality probably the Allies the Allies certainly had more tanks and in terms of quality the ally tanks in many areas were better and the Samoa is as a tank design for the French cavalry the French realize they're going to need those heavy tanks like the Sharpie one that is we've seen already this is a lighter tank for the cavalry division's and new cavalry divisions that are going to be the mobile force the French have realize imagine Oh line is their main defense against Germany but there's got a gap at the northern end so they have ready some mobile divisions that will either go to defend that French border or going to Belgium with the British to defend in there and thus Amuro has got cast arm and you can see them putting into place there that cast armor rear is three pieces of cast armor a cast turret one of the problems are a tank though even though it's got a great gun in the SI 35 guns a forty seven millimeter gun that would go through about well 33 millimeters arms at about 500 metres so pretty much anything the Germans put out in 1940 this gun could defeat and the problem about it they didn't have enough radios ready to illus to put in every single tank so tend to be the supportive leader would have a radio but other tanks and that Skorton wouldn't have them but the armour protection is brilliant and what we're looking at here is this is the tank that they got running beautiful looking example there was one of these extravagant French camouflage schemes that were being put on vehicles in the late 1930s and all told the sommore when it did make German tanks in the Second World War quite often battles like stone where the French tiny tanks come out on top the Germans were actually told go round the outside do not stop and try and take on the French tanks mobility and command structure was the way the Germans were beating the fringe and obviously the collapse of the French command structure didn't go down too well as well but that's a mirror a wonderful tank there and the engineers who designed and like did the castings go over to America and help the Americans actually put together the grand tank improve any motivation additional a so social Facebook Instagram a solicited a blonde a zero travail actually T do using new Rosie O'Donnell at Samia too now Richard you've been out to some day and no doubt taken part in the French hospitality they're fantastic I mean one of my obviously after bowing to of course well my favorite museums absolutely love the collection the collation is vast I think people just don't understand how fast it is to be honest and very much like you've got your your vehicle conservation center they have hangers at the side with what we always consider the best stuff is kept in over there and they're running fleet so I have to say considering the amount of staff they've got down there is absolutely extraordinary what they can actually run it's quite mind-boggling yeah the French you know you can say we said early after we came how you say that they had the advantage there was lots of vehicles in France at the end of the Second World War so they were French tanks were in service American tanks were in service of the French army much later than some other countries so there's a lot of Schurman variants and of course the the French military as well so they actually took panther tanks and put them into service carried on making Maybach engines so there's a number of issues there you know because we all draw when we see some of their reserves and some of their collections there but if you have the opportunity to go to summer on the Loire Valley it's a beautiful part of the world and a stunning collection that they've they've got there and I know you know we've both benefited I know and in fact I think you were funding it when we had our tank name meeting out there World of Tanks were funding we had a lovely evening out with the French I can tell you that much and interesting that you mentioned the panther as well of course you said about transporting vehicles when we spot it was the last year actually tankfest 2019 they're very famous Britannia panther which was the panther captured by the French used against the German joined the bézier squadron after that famous French captain but obviously I mean I'll never appreciate it's probably one of the first times I've been involved in this transportation of vehicles across countries and things and yeah a lot of paperwork I have to say we didn't appreciate that so so that's another one of the things when those you you know when you're saying oh why haven't you done this why can't you get that and everything cost just remember that all of these things cost of last no time there are things you can imagine moving tanks are weapons of war and not every country like seeing armor and trying to explain to people at customs posts and borders etc that you've got all the paperwork whatever world world worth it's like trying to explain to any if you've got a gun in the boot of the car you know you might know it's deactivated but that young policeman who stopped you he's not going to be too happy about it so so those are some of those issues sometimes where there is an awful lot that goes into this I come back to thank you the world of tanks because they've been that body that's been able to sponsor us to get vehicles here though just quite frankly we wouldn't able to afford normally okay we've I think we've got time for a quick question for you from Gareth on Facebook bah-bah-bah which of Hobart's funnies is David's favorite all right okay I probably say Kirk Lavery I just think the ingenuity that goes into there's one vehicle that actually mozi Canadian Dennison who ends up he's at the d8 landings he comes back looks at the Churchill and he's the one that pushes forward the idea of the aviary and of course Hobart this maverick character who looks after the 79th armored division is brilliant for that role you know he doesn't suffer fools gladly he gets things done done he is a brilliant trainer of men and look at that every as well as a Churchill every far as a petal more to basically anything in the way if you'll remember a petal mortar lands Boyd this gets shredded and blasted it can carry a box girder bridge so it can lay a bridge it can carry a fastened it's got room inside for demolition charges for the Royal Engineer crews to use so lots of things can be done with an aviary and that type of specialized armor used by the 79th armored division and its use you know it was really intended for d-day but they realize hang on we might as well carry on using this and by the end of the Second World War the 79th armored division is the largest armored unit in Europe it never fights together it's always parceled out for where it's going to be needed supporting whether it's Americans whether it's British troops and it is one of those bits of British tank design that is will remarkable success and so that's another one of these things about but you know the innovation of the things that go into it other countries of course have their own engineer type variants but never to the scale and to the breath I think of the 79th Armored Division so I'd go for a Churchill aviary because it's another one of those vehicles if you talk to modern fighting soldiers actually why am we've got a demolition gun why have we got you know because course in modern urban warfare you are going to need engineer variants all the time put a dozer blade on the front of things all the time well anyway where we go right that's answered that one and I think we're going to go to the first of our death matches actually shortly the definite is for this what we want to try to achieve is we're going to give a look it's using a gameplay as well so we talked a little bit about the game and not too much David is going to talk a bit about the historical side of it and the question I get asked all the time about World of Tanks of course is how realistic is it how does the game compared to doing the real deal so what we're trying to do in this we have a conversation between the two of us and we're trying to tie up some of those loose ends and some of those questions so our first death match so straight wait David you can see the ignition an indication of some of the maps and things you can get there 40 plus maps in World of Tanks and we're obviously not going to go through them all but the level of the map of what the map is so you've got things all the way from sort of fighting and built-up areas operations of built-up areas that sort of thing to open plane to snowy cap mountain so a wide variety of of maps and in the maps to a certain degree will actually actually affect how your gameplay goes from the rest of the game but we talked about that a bit later on yeah I have to say you know not being games played one of the first things when we looked at these for the first time just staggering you know the the realism of the landscape etc and there's our friendly there's our sanur again the tank we were just talking about earlier on a 35 and samui by the way it's a lovely plaque on the front in the back of it you see that they bolt on will come around to the rear of this one in a moment that's the the letters of the company that puts it together and I gather the French tank crewman quite often if they had the opportunity they take that plaque off and there's actually surely later on when there are a few Germans were they to reapply that there and one of the things we talked about earlier is there of course this I come back to as well when everyone starts criticizing things like this just like when we talk about Hollywood movies I mean it's a game and so the speed the tanks go the way they move off is not going to always be that accurate and you talked earlier as well about the views you know how you see the vehicle which obviously is not how a crews gonna see yeah absolutely I mean some of the observation things you said people say what what is realistic about it well if you see the view on here at the moment we can see really well you'll see later on there's a bit of footage where they're actually firing the vehicles in there the observation is good but now you look at some of the observation ports and some of these vehicles I mean some of them are just mere slits that they can actually look through and even in modern main battle tanks with you know thermal observation and gunnery systems and periscopes and Epis copes etc you know the viewing from there is particularly particularly hard so it's an absolute nightmare for any commander of any tank of any era to actually navigate around the battlefield especially when you close down and everything else is going on so you've got the radio chattering on your ears your crew shouting at you and you're obviously maybe in contact of that particular point as well and looking here this is the tank we hadn't got in the arena we saw count of three this is a parent of four just going back to that design process bid this was Panther three and four were the two tanks that the Germans were designing in there or putting together in the 1930s and had real problems with getting them to production social standards as it was though they could actually make them in life enough London numbers this one with a short-barreled 75 millimeter gun is the Panza for the idea being it could fire high-explosive it wasn't really intended to take on enemy tanks but if it had to it could fire high expose the facts and again they later gave them a high-explosive anti-tank round a heat round but the irony here is worried so the pans are four pans of three and pANSA for work I've said it they end up looking simpler and have very similar capabilities but the panzer 4 is the one they ended up adding the long barrel of 75 millimeter gun to and that almost takes over the role that the panzer 3 was menthols but we can see now you know what would you call this jockeying you know for a person fire position you know any tank and a tank tank tactics have really not changed dramatically since the advent of the tank and of course we're seeing a tank working individually well it would never happen you'd never see a tank working out on their own so whether you're working in a troop of three tanks or more you've always got some buddies you're moving forward giving you covering fire you would always jockey quite rightly said there david jockey off for fire position so when you're in a fire position he would always reverse because obviously what could happen is the enemy has actually identified you laid on the sights and they're just waiting for you to move away so to reverse up move around a bit ground appreciation is always a big thing than shuffling around the lap really does work well in the game as well so you have to appreciate the ground you have to appreciate where you can get the best fire position and there's various positions you can get in the tank whether it's you know turret down to hold down what you really want to aim to do is just so that the gunner can actually see the target and that's about it and nothing else is facing the enemy and obviously one of the critical points and again exactly the same where's the strongest point on any tank the frontal armor is always a stronger so should always be in the front of a tank is always facing the direction of the enemy threat sounds simple but when you're actually navigating the tank close down you can't see anything it may be the holes going one directions the Gunners looking at something else and you've got the radio chatter it's not always easy so that their minor points actually do translate quite well from in-game to the real life scenario one of the things I'm always fascinated by was you know we saw the photograph of all these German soldiers in Afghanistan they'd all dressed in their best paper in Tucker they were all lined up we're ready to play the game that evening and you know for you I know you say you worked on simulators and everything else down a lot worth you know what is it that people are a serving soldier could learn from playing this game or is it they just play it because I know they will do they played this for the fun of it yeah and I think you've hit a nail on there but for the fun of it I mean obviously in the British Army we've worked with simulators for ever for training obviously especially as the price of ammunition increases obviously track mileage is limited we have to worry again even for newer vehicles about using the tanks too much and the cost of repairs and everything so simulation and simulation is dull it's boring of course it doesn't compare to the adrenaline rush you can get when you're playing World of Tanks so it's very very very very different and that anyway I mention those things because one of the issues that modern armies you've just said it for me really you know the difference between what the soldiers train on the simulators because of course your view points there you know you this idea that you can get everything under the Sun you can't because the guy described to me by going to war in a tank like looking out of a letterbox you know with that thick glass on the front and everything else as well that that bit that why the armies use simulators but what's your thoughts on simulators as well cause you taught it because there's a difference there as well you're not hungry you're not lacking sleep they've quite often that way you know you're not desperate to find the loo you've got all those other you have got a sweaty guy sitting next to you all the time that you're just wishing you change your socks how does that differ when the simulation you know how do you actually make sure guys or do you still do enough exercises that they get the gist of what the real thing yeah I mean I mean times have obviously changed and we've gone from things like you know it's a whole fleet management which was the idea so once they certainly when I first joined the army you you had a tank and you lived to breathe that tank even in peacetime obviously and everything else but you had at one time it was dedicated to you by the time I left it was whole fleet management which men you know the Challenger fleet was much lower tanks were being taken away but other unit and you know it wasn't quite the same but you're quite right going back to your initial question on there we talked a lot about stats and firepower and you know thickness of armor and that sort of thing but ultimately the end of the day it's all about training for the crew now there's a big thing throughout the army whether it's tanks or otherwise it's all about drills so if somebody said to a tank soldier you know feeling tank on the first thing they're going to think of is load a safety switch to safe and then follows on the rest of their drill it's so engrained in view and it's in an automatic response to a familiar fire order is what they say about it but again I think it's stuff that we miss talking about because you know you're quite right assimilators a simulator and a simulator can teach you those drills but of course ultimately when you're in confidence when you're in operation and of course we will also get into the psychological level of it it's very different engaging something in a screen is engaging something which actually could be full of people and the consequences of that as well so so you're playing a game obviously with all the tank guys why are they we play the game one of those things about that yes it is a game yes but you know you can learn things from that game and everything else one thing that we're you know we'd make the point here all the time you can have the best tank in the world you must do it in the game all the time actually unless you're well-trained crew or a skilled player presumably you know that motivation behind that and just as we always know you know just having the best kit does not make you the most successful tank crew that's out there as time and time again the historical examples of this museum was shown and other issues as well that we're just talking about training we're sitting here with King tiger behind us in this or new World War two display you know one of the issues about the King Tiger about third of them may have been lost towards the end of the war because the crews simply did not have that training time to get the best from that vehicle and we were talking the analogy you know if you've got a Formula One car outside the front of the museum put your family car next to it if you jump in a Formula One car unless you've had all that training to get the best from that vehicle you'll probably do a lap of our circuit here quicker in your family car than a Formula One you need the skill set that get the best from that vehicle and by the end of the war the German crews just did not have the training time to get the best from some of these vehicles which is why we think things like Panther Tiger gearboxes being messed up it may have been mechanic failures to a certain degree but also that person wasn't skilled to be able to you know read the landscape use that gearbox in the right manner but we've gone completely off target there's a completely correct yeah you can ask me a Christmas gift enough time for a question or two for you a bomb from James on YouTube who dreamed up those complicated French camo schemes there is a brilliant book on French camouflage if you go to our question-and-answer sessions I mentioned that we'll do a patreon question-and-answer sessions as well just on camera as well by the way if you're interested or yaga panther that is a late war german camouflage scheme some of you have been asking questions about that it's pretty much similar to the one we put on the Panther tank what was basically happening is that Germans were running out of paint and what you're seeing there is that red undercoat which is the base coat that was always put on there and then stripes only a third so the Germans actually called this scheme the third scheme because they only used about a third of the amount of paint they normally did and there's pictures of yak Panthers with that scheme on towards the end of the war our yak panther by the way was made in the factory by rimi right at the end of the war with the german workers aft asked back so basically it was a post-war production for a number were made for the British to test right we've got something else coming up and we're straight back into you again David Elster we're back with tension action and late World War two vehicles and followed directly by the war heritage Institute Belgium and also the Canadian War Museum [Applause] right so here we are looking at some of our other vehicles that we've got going around and this is our Churchill mark 4 we've actually got the Churchill mark 3 sorry mark 3 driving around here we are very lucky we have a series of Churchill tanks and one loan to us from the Churchill class hopefully at the end of this they are becoming a gift to the Tank Museum and there's a number of spares that came with me well there you can see Bob driving with that tiller system on the Churchill the Churkin is actually the fourth type of infantry tank that dating back to world saying earlier here Ellis in 1933 saying we need infantry tanks frontal armor on the turret field ended up being thicker than that on a tiger one you've got really good defense there and on the turret here we ended up going through a series of guns from the two pounder to the six pounders with a British 75 millimeter gun and this again was a tankless started life with a needful lot of heating problems but when time to be a very reliable vehicle and because of its rate of climb was considered a real classic you can actually get to places other tanks couldn't get to and was a course converted as well into things like a breeze this is a British comment this is another type of tank British made this is a cruiser so this is a follow on from that Crusader and what you're looking at later in the war we've got available now the meteor tank engine basically the Merlin early in the war it was being reserved the Merlin obviously for aeroplanes to defend Britain and then bombers but when they do rate it and make the meteor that then becomes available meaning that we've got a much more powerful tank engine that can then start going in the Cromwell and the comet tank and the comet that step frontage we've got thick armor again the whole point of that step front is to house the Pisa machine gun this is the last tank they put that on and the first Centurions that are coming after the comic they decide now let's get for a smooth glass a plate instead of that step frontage where you've got the drivers viewport but more important than what it was done is serve a 90 degree angle for the visa machine-gun you can see there 77 millimeter gun the firepower is basically they took the cartridge from a 3 inch anti-aircraft gun and it puts enough force behind an armor-piercing ballistic cap rail to go through this tanker Panther and that gun were had actual better firepower and penetration when it's firing armor-piercing ballistic short so with a little sad buy one there with tungsten core that was better at penetration than the 75 millimeter on the panther now this was the Panther that came across from the musée de blonde this is the one that again was being used by the French army after the Second World War it was captured from the Germans actually used during the war as well but Panthers equipped some of the first reformed French tank regiments and the Panther really is an answer to when the Germans going to Russia and they meet the t-34 the Tigers already being designed to going into service later that year in 1941 when they meet the t-34 it is genuinely a surprise for most of the German forces there is a moment where they debate shall we copy it directly Bing Germans they have to go run better and they come up with a panther which for many people is considered probably the best medium tank of the war he's got superb sloped armor it's got that very powerful 75 millimeter gun you've been looking at their wide tracks because again it's gonna be used on the east and front the Maybach HL 2:30 p.m. chin in the back to give it that power initially at places like the Battle of Kursk it has a lot of problems teething troubles but when they get a lot of these ironed out this is a very very effective tank but we often mention I'm said it already down to the crews again a lot of the time the Germans amazingly they are producing equipment as a year progresses albert speer you know who's doing this fantastic reorganization of the Germans arms industry he gets production going very very well but it's the men they're running out all from the skilled crews now we've been very lucky at tankers to be able to put together you know whole groups of German tanks a classic American in four German at the Second World War named by the way all the in British name the American tanks after Civil War generals so hence we got the Sherman we got the Lee the grants etc now the Sherman comes in as absolute before us all formats and so if you're real rivet counter look that one's got a longer body it must be x y&z all of this because what they're doing they cannot make enough Sherman tanks with the one type of engine and they're building new factories new companies are taking this on so we have some with cars tanks m4a ones the cartels we've got welded holes we've got four different engine types which means sometimes a body has to be lengthened and later of course we've got improvements different suspension systems or here on our fury tank more powerful guns being added so there is a great range of sherman vehicles and we were lucky to get some classics altogether driving around our arena this tank of course the tank we loaned to the making of the Brad Pitt war movie fury tank we've left all the kit on it you can see the difference there between the sharper hold welded tanks and that smoother hold carved hold tanks of the turbines and this one as well of course has the 76 millimeter gun on most earlier Sherman's have the 75 millimeter gun the longer 76 millimeter is a higher velocity gun so it's not just that millimeter wider barrel it's the amount of propellant in the case the forces are round out with kinetic energy that's a bigger difference there now here's a German stone bishops and the stone bishops were originally the idea of man Stein German General in the mid 1930s he's arguing infantry should have mobile artillery attacking with them hence the design of this vehicle later in the war we'll see one in a moment they end up instead of just putting that short barreled howitzer to support the infantry on the tank they put an anti-tank gun on it and what you end up having isn't very effective there it is with a 75 millimeter gun a very effective tank with a low silhouette that all salt gun if you want to call it that way or tank killer because you could hide that vehicle easily in a hedge knock out enemy tanks and you can build three of these for the price of two turreted panzer 3 tanks so what we're looking at there is a very very successful German design for example in Normandy we always look like talking about the bigger tanks at Tigers the King Tigers etc actually it's a stern the shoots that knocks out more allied tanks in any other type very popular vehicle now here we are with two t-34 85 early in the war what we're looking at with the t-34 76 beautifully built tanks just before the war they're starting to come into service with the Red Army a lot of them get knocked out obviously in those early days of the Barbarossa campaign in the summer of 41 the Russians have to move the factories behind the Ural Mountains and in the process realizes a lot of things that are going on the tank but aren't really necessary in combat so they simplify the design the tank gets cheaper to build as it all goes on and in 1944 they come out with this the t-34 85 bigger turret three-man charities opposed to the earlier very crammed two-man turret and a bigger gun instead of the earlier we saw with the t-34 76 a 76 millimeter gun that later one has the 85 millimeter gun and they use the t-34 hull to make assault guns as well starting off again with the su-85 that same gun that goes on the t-34 later in the second model of t-34 not worth having if we've got the same gunner so let's put a bigger gun so here we go with the su-100 a hundred millimeter gun and this particular model so underneath is basically the chassis of the t-34 this particular one was actually given to the Egyptians and was captured by british paratroopers at Suez in 1956 and it was pulled back and we've actually got record in the museum row it's given to the museum collection and then taken away again for some firing cars at the army be doing so there you can see that diesel engine in the back nice wide tracks and also a very distinctive noise you're here with Russian tanks is a distinctive clap clap clap noise as it goes along that's because of the pins being pushed back in by wedges they drive around they'll each track things now the one for the games plays here this is tortoise and this was designed with the idea of that word again assault tank after d-day we thought we may have had to smash our way through things like German defenses like the Siegfried line so a huge great cast frontage to it and a 32 pounder gun now that gun is actually the next up from the 17 pounder as an anti-tank gun actually five one of these of a panther and the round went either way through the front of the prancer and exited the rear so very accurate very impressive vehicle and we actually got this running with its Luthor engine in the back we've actually appeared of one of our tank fests driving around the place so there we've got some of our vehicles we're heading over now to have a look at a vehicle in Belgium and Canada the war heritage Institute is Belgium's National Institute for war history heritage and remembrance we are proud to have one of the biggest collections of military objects in the world the participant in this virtual tankfest for today is part of the collection of the war heritage Institute at our location in the bostonia barracks this is where we keep our collection of World War two vehicles and it's also the spot where we have the vehicle restoration Center where we restore vehicles this Sherman jumbo that is participating in this video has been restored over the period of about two years the restoration was finished in December 2019 just in time for our nuts event in December the tank also participated in our big liberation column south which was a remembrance project for the liberation of the Ardennes after the Ardennes offensive we try to keep as close as possible to the original tank that broke the encirclement of bostonia in December 1944 and we also hope to present this vehicle to you in person in the next edition of the live tank fest in the meantime keep safe keep healthy and when you're in Belgium make sure to visit one of our sites thank you so here eyes the exalt him in for a 302 and they're starting up that Ford v8 gasoline engine is those a petrol engine in the back of this model the Sherman and this particular one they marked it up with Cobra Kim talked about that in a moment but so what is a jumbo Sherman the Americans just like the British with the tortoise thought we may have to assault some very well defended and prepared positions and therefore you're going to need tanks and have that much extra protection on because they're going to be that much more as the target and what they did with the m4 a3 e - on this particular model the jumbo model they add more armored protection so another inch plates added on you end up with four inches on that front plate and it's got the newer type turret on it now that means this tank becomes slow it slows it down by about six miles an hour because of that extra armor there and it's about overall about six tons heavier than the standard German same gun as a standard German with the 75 millimeter it's just those protection levels go up for the youth thing visions did they make about two hundred and fifty four of them 250th sent off to Europe and they arrive in about September of 44 and as mentioned this particular model this one ended up as a memorial tank by the side of the road after the Second World War some years later when it was going to be recovered when they approached the Americans the Americans actually wanted it back they said look we have this back and the America the Belgium war heritage Institute ended up saying look can we keep it will restore it and we'll keep it running and that's exactly what they've done here and they've done it up as Cobra King which is the first tank that got into Bastogne by practice relieving force so it's they've done it quite rightly you know because they're based at Bastogne and they've been going through these memorial commemorations over the last year or so and now this again amazingly cobra king the real tank that was the one in Tabasco it was kind of lost for a while and then identified it was a range rank and that's now back at Fort Benning in America and received Fort Benning and it allows time so another one of those variations of the Sherman's that send it up this one I think the only running jumbo Sherman now in the world so quite a piece and this went through a two-year restoration out in those workshops that was seeing there out at Bastogne it's the big army base that they've now opened up and it's the site of one of their museums there's also some of the tanks and some of the vehicles are actually on display in Brussels that's where you used to go to see the tank collection you should really go to Bastogne these days to see the collection there so bit of a rarity driving along there mentioned before there's that star on the side not just an American symbol all the Allies after d-day we've got stars that that indicates an allied vehicle so here's m4a3 eetu version of the Sherman coming towards us they're coming to the end of this little piece that the Belgium's have put together for us you [Music] located in Ottawa Canada the nation's capital the Canadian War Museum is Canada's National Museum of military history the museum promotes a deeper public understanding of the human experience of war since its opening in 2005 the museum has welcomed approximately 500,000 visitors annually there's a research centre a theatre and a memorial hall with the headstone of Canada's Unknown Soldier while our focus is on Canadians and times of world peace we have a rich collection of military artifacts rare vehicles unique medals and works of art comprising in total more than 3 million objects the military technology collection is housed in lebreton gallery one of the museum's most popular destinations a workshop is located next to the gallery for the restoration and maintenance of vehicles in this open exhibition space we have 200 large artifacts including tanks aircraft and armoured vehicles this is the finest collection of military vehicles in Canada we hope you'll enjoy our footage of the Canadian made RAM kangaroo you will see in action in a moment and we hope that you will someday have a chance to visit us at the Canadian War Museum now you can see here a ram tank is basically many people think of it almost like a barrage of the Sherman that was built in Canada he's got parts and components of used on the m3 grand tank they don't see combat action only summer used in Europe they're mainly used in Europe as training tanks but what happens is general Simmons is in charge of the second Canadian Corps in Normandy he actually gets m7 priests with a 105 millimeter guns they're being replaced by sexton's with 25 pounders so he thinks these will be useful vehicles if he plates over where the gun used to go on the m7 and they call them a kangaroo they put a section of infantry in them and they use about about 50 of them for operation totalized in the attacking Normandy it's a great idea seems to work so they go back to Canada where a number of ram tanks at the Montreal locomotive works are quickly converted turrets off and they're made into a useful armoured personnel carrier and that's what we're seeing that the Canadian War Museum restores here in front of us that's what we're looking at now 10 infantryman in the back you could have a commander a driver and sometimes someone operating that little turret that's on the side there with browning machine gun in in the back of it it's got that all 975 radial engine you know the aeroplane engine that was on used on a lot of the Sherman variants and gives it so it can keep up with the tanks it's got the same traction the same sort of sense of mobility and they're used by the 79th armored division and they form specially the first Canadian armoured personnel company regimen back in September of 44 and you can see on the vehicle so marrying to the name on the side given by the truth there's that recognition star we talked about earlier and as the vehicle goes around you'll see the unit insignia one57 that's this Canadian armoured personnel carrier unit and you can also see the little triangle with a bull said in that's 79th Armored Division we talked about earlier now these vehicles brutalized Canadians they are used throughout the rest of the war very successful designer to adaptation led by the Canadians there and the idea kangaroo you don't have to think about it it's a name of vehicle with the power of one anymore sorry with a pouch marsupial so from that side of things kangaroo is a name stuck for whatever variant they're using going along there and there you can see that radial engine and we started out fires out of feral bit of smoke there at the rear but a fantastic vehicle put together and restored to life by the Canadians we hope you enjoyed our restored Ram kangaroo to learn more about the Canadian War Museum and how you can support us please follow us on social media or visit our website [Music] or to other collections they're quite stunning ones I've not been to the Canadian one we've met Jim who's in charge of the Canadian Museum and his engineers have been over here as well but that's an amazing restoration and what a vehicle collection they've got and of course the Belgium's which is another one of those countries which is because it's been the basically the Gateway for different armies crossing Europe for centuries yes so you know if you go to their Waterloo exhibits if you go to their second one well they've got amazing bits and pieces so again two collections if you do have the opportunity definitely worth visiting and we've put links to their sites and these supporting museums who have given us if you go to tankfest org and again you'll be able to follow through some of the links that we've been saying earlier thinks of the short things of how you can support us on patreon how you can buy things how you can join some of our schemes you know it's become a member of the Tank Museum it's said to so do have a look at tankfest org few more questions David Wright for you lets me from slimes Jacques I think on Twitch if there was one tank that you could have or you could get for the museum what would that be anything at all anything at all we have a wants list for the Tank Museum I guess we did debate going far away Abrams we are an Abrams is on that we've been working away with the Americans for goodness knows how many years try to get an Abrams here we were going to see an Abrams a little bit later on so we see that one but yet for me there's some vehicles that we are lacking that might not even be so we want the glamorous well you know we haven't got a late war something like a js2 jerry or ttang one of those big heavy soviet tanks that would be a great one to have because we can then show that's why britain develops a conqueror as an overwatch tank the Americans developed the m103 similar sort of thing with a whopping great 120 gun on so having one of those tanks we want to look Clerk we want all the you know a merkava there's so many there for me some of those rarities things like an Indian patent carrier in you ended up making an armored vehicle the goes and see service in North Africa it almost looks like a de Muller armored car with the top off and that's the service at Alamein African battles but then they're shipped back they don't come to the UK they don't fight in northwest Europe so they go out to Burma etc and we know there's a couple in Afghanistan and a scrapyard that sort of thing those are the sort of vehicles because that means we could bring in much more the Commonwealth story which is a vital story you know if we're telling world war two British story here Commonwealth we just saw about the Canadian contribution you know there's polish armor there's there's the Indian armored forces as well there's so much there that we want to add and so I'd go for one of those slightly more obscure one like an Indian patent carrier from Neil on Facebook is the Sherman's reputation as a deathtrap justified after talk just just stop asking those silly questions about the Sherman the Sherman is one of those tanks that was who won that's the question I put to you it was a brilliant piece of engineering design that perfectly fitted the problem of the day 30 ton tanks I've said it already I had to get across the Pacific across the Atlantic yes it is not a like-for-like match to late war German tanks but when it first came into service Albert Speer the German armaments minister said these tanks are better than ours so that was a German evaluation of the Sherman so this idea that we constantly say yes if you're here any tank goes up in flames what it was about the Sherman as well this idea that actually when they come up with wet stowage protect the ammunition hence those extra side plates put on that helps it as well let's be careful we don't just keep repeating the same old no they have a death traps they were Tommy Cooper so of this they were the tanks a help the Western Allies win the war Stevi Facebook will we ever see a tiger - running a tank fest watch this space let's just keep hoping about things like that we have to target is that the Tank Museum it would be a phenomenal thing for us to be able to run a target one on the target - here there is a tiger - running at summered another one of these production King Tigers you know so you can get to see one if you're lucky enough that way we'd love to see one run at the tank ease into and we've got 30 seconds David in this slot and we're gonna get lynched by your staff otherwise merchandise I do so come back - so if you wanna buy so I know few games place amazingly we've actually got books on World of Tanks oh I know you might kill some people if you like me you will the book in your hand things we can recommend if you just want a good intro to the history of the tank our guidebook that's a good one there so we've got a very good just simple history but it's got all those other things you want to know about how gums workout systems engines bits better how'd you go to toilet in a tank we've done on that that's our new guide books so have a look at that I think it's a fiver on our shop that's another one though books I'd always try and promote the tank book by Dorling Kindersley we put it together stunning collection of imagery in there whether you you know you're a real tank near it or just a beginner that's another one of those ones and behind me I know we've got a number of our Haynes manuals which if you're interested in tanks they go into a lot more detail so I know you've got chieftain challenge lovely lovely paint manuals recommend highly really good detail beautifully illustrated whether you're a model maker whether you've got historic interest that's the sort of thing you want so lots of our books here that's one of our hangs on the tiger we'll come back to some of the other bits in another section moving straight on there we go into our next death match two tank icons we've got the tiger versus the t-34 76 so where are we now more game footage David Morgan footage so there particular one again visions there we talk Spain about this actually earlier on obstacles as far as tank obstacles are concerned yes so when we first looked at this one when we're thinking about things like we're gonna see a tiger in a t-34 3276 and the battler cursed on the eastern front you know often talked by people about the biggest tank battle of all time was it and may have been bigger battles earlier in the invasion but the Russians had an opportunity because Western intelligence Britain we've broken Enigma codes were feeding this intelligence to the Russians they know that the Germans are going to put in an attack that tries to pinch off this massive bulge on the eastern front line and the Russians have time to prepare and because the Germans are preparing new tanks like the panther the ferdinand or elephant they've already got tiger tanks there they the delays it's literally month delays from hitler's point of view before the attack goes in in the summer of 43 so the russians prepare massive anti-tank defenses so you've got things such as blocks tank ditches minefields to you know try and channel the tanks towards certain things and it's only after the anti-tank guns of minefields etc only then will you release your armor to plug any breakthrough that the germans have made and looking here you see we've seen here a tiger one you know stunning the effect in terms of 10 centimeter thick frontal armor the 88 millimeter gun that can take on enemy tanks about a thousand even 2,000 Chrome with herb meters away so about 2 kms away and you know very very effective but a kick but if you slow it down by making your engineers have to come forward building a quick temporary breach a minefield a tank ditch that they've gotta fill in to get over those are all going to be things that are going to slow down and cause real problems for the Germans and even with the advent of hydro gas suspension as years progressed etc I mean still obstacles for us and one of the you know the greatest dramas there are different ways nowadays compared to here with the improvements in suspension but also I think what people forget sometimes is it's not some it's it's not just the obstacle Moustafa I mean also crews do not want to damage their vehicle was the last thing you want to be doing in a firefights to get out to replace a broken track pin or it's not linked or something so it's very important and of course on a tactical perspective like you said David the idea is from an enemy's perspective channel the tanks through there put a minefield where they're all going drive through blast it with artillery and that'd do the trick very very quickly so obstacles are fantastic and they've changed so much there's a variety but nothing has been beats if we're going back to World War two some of you know to teethe type traps and things so very effectively yeah and I get looking on the game obviously I gather you do have I'll tell you in the game but this idea that obviously the game is tank on tank so that's the focus of this game one of the things we always try like to remember is actually tanks quite often can be a very effective tank but that's not in the role of fighting another tank they can be attacking infantry positions they can be attacking artillery they can be doing their job without having to find another tank and the vast majority of Tanks are knocked out not surprisingly by another tank but by anti-tank guns and of course one of the other issues again we can see in the game here one of the points we were trying to make all the time is yes that tiger however good attention is when you're ending up having so many of those Soviet t-34 tanks you can end up being swamped on the battle and that's one of those other things that however good your tank if something can get round behind you put a round up where the armors then on the side of we're done for and again it all goes down to position ideal tank shooting position was M fillet fire from a deflate position that was always hammered home to you all the time and funnily enough artillery when you look at the game it's the last he ought to do when you talk about artillery in real life he's pick at prominent features so when they're taking cover behind the only tree that's there you know square kilometer one tree don't take cover behind it it's an easy place for a forward artillery observer to actually lay fire down on the tube soon so looking out I said I'm going to come back some of our wonderful objects here I know you're all admiring this round next to me this here is not actually around it's actually a flaw so if you want to don't every little boy or maybe certain girls are gonna want this to take to work on Monday morning so there get one of those from the shop and behind me we just talk there about the 88 millimeter why not get your inflatable 88 millimeter round from the tank museum shop or if you want to go for the British here we go this is the inflatable 17 pounder armor-piercing ballistic catch round there with a red band on that means it's got the tracer just shows there's some sort of explosive prison so there's some other nice things you might want to have a look at from our shop Richard sorry that's that's absolutely fine so coming up we have got shortly we've got the curator now so I think we say the crate it's because I expect you to be talking about everything our course mr. Richard Smith is actually gonna give us a look at Tiger 131 inside them outside obviously Tiger 131 David's your you know am I right in saying the most iconic or I would get hungry if I say that down in the museum it's a tricky one because again from our point of view you know every museum wants that iconic item that everyone draws attention to when the restoration process began back in the 1990s with the tiger it was with the view it was going to be a restoration that would help put the tank museum on the map in a certain way and through that restoration process I only came here in 2000 took over that earlier restoration of the tank and it's done I would argue the job they set out to do because it's made this place more famous it's the only running Tiger one I'm sure in the future there be other these what they call Franken Tigers tanks made out of bits and all sorts of things coming together there's others going to be really interesting tanks running but the key thing that that was the first bit of really big heavy German armor that was running in Britain and certainly in terms of the focus of attention has been drawn to that tank even though we've got more famous bigger you know look there's a king tiger behind there's all sorts of other amazing vehicles here in this museum so I think they were right to choose it and we discussed early you know things like why is it the tiger I made a model when I was a kid I didn't know passion for tiger yeah so what is that thing about it is it the way it looks I know this stories about it there's great stories about other tanks in our collection other collections so is it I always wonder is it that shape it's got which is that really sturdy boxy shape I always described you know like a boxer he could step back and you know take a punch as well as give up on through that massive 88 millimeter gun you know our particular tank with that great Tunisian story of its capture you know you can see the battle damage all layering on top of it but very hard to absolutely pin down why the tiger one is the tank that everybody can identify everybody seems to know about and certainly if your model make or whatever you know it's schoolboy were tiger you know maybe even won 3-1 you know we say without bravado probably the most famous tank in the world and every every reference material ever read every book every action record that we've seen from the unit's when they mentioned tiger one they're always like you can almost read and sense the fear when they're actually doing it which is incredible because obviously a lot of them because there wasn't a lot never came across there never came once and one with them certainly yes so that idea of Tiger fries in Normandy you know this idea that anything boxy in a hedge back off lads fire smoke and this just just move out we'll get the artillery no war hopefully the RAF will come over so that idea of tiger FRA absolutely it's it's it's a well-documented sensation but as you say in some areas they just aren't the Tigers they're fighting you know they're drawn onto the British and Canadian fronting Normandy no Tigers at all facing the Americans and yet you know inevitably stories will be about that and you're not going to question the veteran in any way in the wrong way at all but the truth is it probably wasn't a tiger because there just weren't that many of them around the place but as we always say if you had bumped into a tiger boy you're gonna remember it sort of thing you know they are the tank that again if you saw your round bounce off you're not going to be trying to sort of take that off at the same time we've met veterans who once they've worked out their tactics they were confident they knew how they were going to deal with tanks like that in the future so again like everybody's experienced as a Second World War it was unique to that individual we've got you know we tend to group it together in group thing that's fine to a certain degree but it you know you've got different people having very different experiences as tank crews and you know you only have to look at Gerry Kim Sherman you know taking out three targets in the afternoon and then popping off for a Panzer for a bit later on you know that sort of thing you know are they going to have that same sensation as if you were perhaps earlier at fillers because where you've seen a whole column taken out by tiger so different different experiences well keeping on Tiger 1-3-1 theme it's now over to the director of the Tank Museum mr. Richard Smith and Tiger 131 inside and out there are some objects that come to define the richness of a museum's collection we tend to call these hero objects the things like the Mona Lisa for the Louvre the rosetta stone the British Museum and placate museum one of these is Tiger won 3-1 now it's not Technic necessarily the most important tank in the collection this not necessarily the best tank in the collection for some of us it's not our favorite tank in the collection but it is the most famous collection in this video we're going to look at why Tiger 131 is not nearly the most famous tank in the museum but arguably the most famous tank in the world now many of you watching this video will know that the reputation of the tiger is as much based on myth and appearance as reality but this vehicle embodies the key messages of the Nazi propaganda machine of Hitler's obsessions with with size and scale and strength and power what the German tank design is revealed on Hitler's 50th birthday certainly looked the part and it sent a shudder through the Allies when they saw this monstrous new machine featuring in Nazi newsreels of April 1942 now there's no doubt that the British were alarmed by the scale size and power of this new German vehicle but it was going to be a year before they could get their hands on one of the real things in Tunisia in April 1943 Tiger 131 was abandoned after an engagement with the Sherwood Foresters and 48 Royal Tank Regiment it was the first tiger to be captured intact by the Western Allies and was considered a really important prize so extent where is it inspected voted by Churchill and King George with six while it was still in Tunisia and then shipped to London where it's displayed on Horse Guards Parade Tiger crews had ordered the destroy disabled tanks rather than let them fall into enemy hands so it remains a certain amount of mystery around why Tiger 131 was abandoned but recent research by the forum of university forensic suggests that because of the way the tank was damaged fitted to its open hatches at least three of the crew were probably wounded the engine was recorded as later on as easily overheating so the engine was probably broken and probably not working at the point where the tank was abandoned and the last straw was when the turret was disabled follow me around jamming between the turret and the hull the crew gave up and went to the rear and that meant that the Tigers captured intact and its secrets could be revealed but with hindsight perhaps the tiger is a tank that never lives up to its hype it's a tank where these upsides are outweighed by the downsides yes it has a tremendous psychological impact on the battlefield just by being out there somewhere it indeed has the best done in the world and this tremendously powerful 88 millimeter at the time has the best armor in the world and its mobility is perfectly adequate but there were just too few tigers for this to be a war winning weapon and these tanks are an economic disaster zone and they are so expensive and weapons like this are so expensive that they lead to a direct contribution to the downfall of the Nazi regime the propaganda around the tiger was highly successful he kept anti-cruise in a permanent state of what was known as tiger terror of a fear of encountering one of these ferocious machines and you could even argue that the ripples of that tiger terror of that effect on our soldiers then make us now remain victims of Nazi propaganda even seventy-five years later there were just too few author and they were too intensive from their maintenance requirement to them to ever dominate the battlefields of the Second World War you have to ask yourself if Tiger tanks were so good how come so few survived to this day no one tries to remanufacture these things after the Second World War no will chose to operate them and of over 1300 produced only six of which Tiger 131 is one of them survived to this day of those six it's the only limb that still runs and this was after a major and complex and expensive project to return the tank to running condition compare this to the large number of t-34 and Sherman's still in good running order after all these years yes there were more t-34 and Sherman's so the spares availability is better but there's more to it than that and we should know the tiger tank takes an absurd amount of maintenance and it's difficult and expensive to fix when something goes wrong today we run Tiger 131 twice a year to take part in our Tiger Day events and Tiger Day attracts thousands of visitors from all over the world to see this unique vehicle in action it's something you cannot see anywhere else no other tank in our entire collection can carry a show on its own like Tiger 1-3 wandered and thrust as a museum it's great to see the enjoyment and the engagement that this tank brings but most people never get a chance to see what goes on behind the scenes to make that kind of event possible it is over-engineered it is complex in ways but at the same time it is it is wartime technology but yeah you can't just go to the main back do you know I said oh can we have some new cylinder heads yeah it has it a little bit more complex than your average t-34 or Sherman but I guess that also makes it a bit of an engineering challenge so you build a knowledge of the vehicle and how it behaves and you can react to it and you start to notice fairly quickly if something is out of sync with how it normally runs so you build up knowledge operating in that way of course Mike and some of the others were involved with the engine overhaul the engine that's running it now so a lot of more you have a lot better knowledge once you help assemble and build that mojo you can more easily identify a problem because you know exactly how it works so we take it out before it goes out to Tiger Day these days we service the vehicle if needed and we run it up the temperature to make sure everything performs for the following week for the big event one obviously several thousand people standing the arena and last thing if she wants is to find out there's a problem there and dance when I first drove it I'd be lying to say if I wasn't nervous he won't be nervous driving you know the seven-year old tank the only running one in the world and all eyes are on you so yeah I was nervous actually it's really nice to drive the only thing is the restricted vision you've got off someone on the ground that you can really trust where where Mike was been involved Tiger so long so we've always had an understanding inside when you're driving it is so noisy it's really noisy because you've got the transmission right next to you it's quick for an old tank it's very quick and you know I can get it up into sixth gear and it feels like you're doing 100 miles an hour really but it is quite scary inside yeah but um it's a bit of kit we found with the tiger after driving it you know there's things that need adjusting because this is quite finely tuned for this gear change to operate and what I've learnt in the past I just give it a little bit of clutch just assist because if you get it wrong the tank can rear up and it can snatch the tracks and we're the track we've only got the one set of tracks and tiger we can't afford for them to take in that much pressure you know and damaging the tracks and the final drive I've got to drive it right and to make it look good because tiger days everyone's got a camera they want to see it perform they want to hear it they want to hear it change gear they want to see it maneuver and so yeah is it is an experience to drive around and get it right it's all for the visitors really and for us you know we're all tight nuts at heart so it's just an enjoyment like with most historic machinery it makes such a month I always keep saying it makes it three-dimensionally if you once you see it running but it's so unique and it brings it to life you start thinking what was it like for these guys on the eastern front or whatever they operated the vehicle in this case of course North Africa as well what was it like for these guys on one three one they would have heard that exact same engine sounded of exact same vehicle so it makes not only a link to the past but it gets you to understand what these weeks are about not only as an impressive engineering feat of engineering but also quite a sinister and impressive weapon and that would be a different experience but just sits there we all get that so once you see doing a lap in the arena it is impressive and especially when it goes out by itself because it's just this one machine in the arena and you think very few other vehicles will have this real dominance of the territory always the museum has made the vehicle famous and we continue to build this unit vehicle people come to me using something just to see the tiger it is impressive and of course we want to share that with people that's our job as a museum we want to share history and that also means the history of the object and how it operates but it's the only survivor intact with this combat history so you want to make sure that is being looked after we will try 200 percent effort to make sure we can save the original rather than replace it and that's why this balance of keeping it drumming with keeping the original components is very important to us and I think it also will be to the visitors because they want to know it's the real deal we're losing the veterans now unfortunately we have done the last sort of obviously in the last few years on 40 with these great individuals and in some ways the the machinery outlives them and their memory and maybe that's part of remembering them as well when it's what it comes down to operating these machines despite all the work we do in servicing we maintain repairing the vehicle we obviously realized that one day then they have to park the vehicle up in the museum and let it live the rest of his life in retirement so Tiger one through one was originally returned to running order for tankfest in 2004 for having a huge internal and external restoration and it made it around the arena just this was an immensely difficult project but we were feeling our way in the dark through the unknown we didn't have access to anyone with experience of operating and maintaining the vehicle we had to learn for ourselves indeed some of the 2004 work got revisited in 2010 and we continued to improve the way we look after that because we learn more about it I mean there is no hangs manual for the tiger vent although by a happy coincidence there is now and this handy guide will help you do your own Tiger rebuild products in the future and there are a few rebuild projects currently underway so Tiger 131 won't be the only running tiger tank forever but none of the other ones will have the authenticity of Tiger 131 because what makes Tiger 131 such an important piece for our museum is its touring it's that story and the continuity of its existence which is at the core of its value as an artefact just look at Tiger 131 and you can see what makes it different the other Tigers because it still bears the scars of its final battle it has the field modifications made by the crew even have a photograph of them although to this day we don't know who they were and we know what happened in its final fighting moments giving this tank a very human dynamic we know that in the advance the tunas infantry from the shoe ad foresters regiment took a hill known as 0.174 from the Germans the inevitable German counter-attacks culminated in an assault of German armed among which was Tiger 131 the infantry at this point were exhausted and was surely set to be overrun but five hundred yards behind them nine Churchill tanks from forty-eight Royal Tank Regiment and 114 royal armoured Corps arrived on the battlefield just in time to fire on the advancing enemy tanks in a dangerously precarious situation and unaware of the Churchill's taking up position behind them the Sherwood Foresters turned an abandoned German anti-tank gun and prepared to fire at Tiger 131 and in the following exchange of fire a Churchill tankers nitrogen and Tiger 131 ground to a halt having been hit multiple times almost 80 years on Tiger 131 is no longer a feared weapon of war but a treasured artifact but our story doesn't stop there because of its story and because it's the only running example in the world Tiger 131 has become more than just a museum exhibit if you take a look at YouTube and search for Tonica 131 you'll see literally thousands of videos which have been viewed millions of times and this makes it one of the most visible and viewed artifacts of any kind in any Museum anywhere in the world this level of Fame that when the movie director David Ayer wanted a real target out to feature in the film fury a brief google search was all it took to find Tiger 131 and Tiger 131 can add itself to the distinguished list of Hollywood performers who were also world war ii veterans this appearance brought yet more Fame and Tiger 131 subsequently then became immortalized in pixels being a tank you can play yourself in the World of Tanks game and then bricks and then a whole range of fan merchandise Tiger 131 drools new admirers if every day and the fascination it generates brings visitors that a museum and draws people to our subject area of armored warfare the cultural value of Tiger 131 is far in excess of what you would expect from an individual vehicle the temple eros and the way in which we've got a harness directly enables us to tell the story of tanks and the men who fought in them preserving this tank doesn't mean that we're glorifying either the tiger or the regime that made it in fact quite the opposite preserving this tank enables us to open up a chapter of history to tell the stories of those had to overcome this regime of the nature of that regime itself and the way in which tanks like the tiger and the extraordinary expense helped to bring it down to the benefit of all of us 75 years later even a question that crops up very often that so I got 1/3 one certain about some of the other tanks that you run on the arena so in tankfest days and other times do you really think you should be running them considering the age and the fact that let's face it there is going to be one day a stage where one of these breaks and probably a Castro 'fuck you know it's not going to get repaired you have got the parts for it yeah it's a tricky one because I come from a fine art background looking after fine artworks and galleries and everything and there's a a really strong convention about how you're supposed to preserve look after restore works of art for 20th century mass-produced industrial items we just don't have that same set of guidance so you may think going to a clock museum and not seeing any mechanical clock in that museum working you might feel a bit shortchanged so there's some areas of technological history we're used to seeing working there's other areas where you know the aeroplanes is a classic area where we've got real real problems of if a plane fails it not only drops out the sky but you lose the pilot as well and there's loss you know worth losing just for that sake of trying to put things in front of the public so you know so there's different element ank's one of the things we know that running a tank is really important to helping people understand some of those issues about it but let's not kid on ourselves you know we're not using the guns we're not firing at ranges we're not doing all sorts of things so we're only explaining some of the things by running in and we do also know one of the other problems we've all got as well is we know that by running it we're damaging it what we are trying to do though is we know all these objects were looking after on a downward curve they are going to sort of return to base oxide one day in the future all were doing is slowing that up points by speeding that up by running the vehicle doing certain things to do with it by but by bringing so many people to the subject and you know another one of these issues if we hadn't run the tiger when we did we would have lost those people who were there when he was captured who knew about you some of the stories etc so again running these vehicles in 20 years time it'll be a very different it will have even gone from living memory so there's a whole host of issues that you come into and my own feeling is that some organizations criticize other ones for running things etc my own fault is look at that particular organization look at its remit look at it what it's there for you know we try to do it with at least wear and tear as possible but equally what are we trying to save what's significant about that vehicle host of really complex issues there but think about that as well of a viewers which is you know what are we trying to do when we when people are saying I'll run this run that that's not our complete aim you know running is part of it but that's you know it's also preservation and we've just very very very quick question I see one sense though do you think it would have been a good vehicle production we're amazing enough so this is an Australian tank built out in Australia and they actually experimented with a 17 pounder version that was some firepower on the you know the center so yes I think push comes to shove and in the part of the world it what it was to be going up again Japanese tanks it would have done the job you know because it hadn't like it wasn't going up against the panther or a tiger or something so you know fine and which straight to our next and final death match which is the is to versus the king tiger so here we are where are we this is its high Switzer it's in the Alps in the old I said no it's not in the Alps I was just in there David but I mean a scenario obviously the maps represent different climates different temperatures and not something I've ever experienced I have to say and I'm quite happy that I haven't experienced ever fighting in our sight sorry it's naively there's the graphics looks stunning don't they do really too little you know this is some holiday go and then all of sudden King Tiger appears yeah and the question we get asked quite a lot obviously about the game is also the the research for each individual vehicle and I don't think we've really touch much on that it is a fantastic team their dedication to doing the research on they're scouring archives across the globe you know which we get including yours and obviously many of your vehicles have actually appeared in game I think of Tiger 140 on obviously Springs at the top of Mines and it is a long process to research some of these vehicles you know four to six months on average from one vehicle to actually getting games on time and models and everything so it's very very accurate it used to be the old days and turn up with a pencil and a notebook and actually spend a couple weeks there and measure everything now of course slightly more sophisticated for the 3ds scanning and everything so here obviously that this is what we're looking at is what's behind us production in tiger I walk by the way all that referee services zimmerit the exact panting magnitude pace that was put on they stopped doing in September for - - actually attached to the vehicle but here we can see in the game one of your production King Tigers here and js2 looking at the Jazz - on the on the game there yeah fantastic I mean I actually have to say one of my favorites thanks to play in game it's a punchy vehicle very very popular with the player basis as well and really really good I think the good thing here as well I'm talking about camera one thing we have been asked to press a bit more is the fact that the heat they people can go out there and find an FIR body a panther camo as well actually put on in game don't forget with the proceeds are going to yourself in the museum but you can see there some of these I think even a flicker on there but some of the graphics on the HD are stunning we talked about observation a lot we talked about everything else but what about crew comfort now crew comfort is notoriously bad on most of the soviet vehicles and again I think cruising from a perspective of tank design was obviously it was it was overlooked for so many years rules for about firepower protection mobility but we didn't actually think about much else from there and obviously you haven't got a happy crew it is over a long period of time become detrimental to that particular crew so crew comfort is important yeah because we were talking about you know like German ergonomics that idea the commander was like with a pencil tool and the Panzer 3 Center at the back of the tower you know you got a good compiler good vision compared to many other tanks today and they're seeing a Soviet tanks you know one of the things that's often you know commented on sometimes argued hotly about is did the Soviets have a different attitude to their citizens they're they're you know soldiers are they were going in because one of the issues you know we always talk about five for eight maximum height for a Soviet tank whereas of course in the West were building for certain the 95 percentile etc so in other words in the West we tend to build a vehicle that unless you are in that last 5% category you know I your seven foot two we're not gonna build it back but obviously the Soviet you know so the internal volume of the tank had to be less and you look in some of the soviet vehicles you've been in a t-72 I mean you you know the space in there we Andre I drove a steam semi - I have to say I mean I'm not you know out of five or ten so I'm not particularly tall guy but I have to say I mean even the driver's compartment I struggled to get in there I mean fantastic I'm from a silhouette point of view I mean presenting you know the shape of the vehicle to present to the enemy was fantastic low silhouettes are really really good but I have to say not a company debut at all I'm proud to say we did get airtime on the t-72 that was a the check very Caesar so looking at again other things that go into the put into sort of you know things that obviously the games not gonna get you give you well every other I'll be the next thing you're gonna start giving people drivers that simulates a question I think David yeah so that idea there but so many things come into play when you're actually judging a tank and obviously in the game there's there's one bit of it we're seeing there you know the King Tiger being swamped by all the other tanks there at the end that that sense of tanks against tanks but also when judging of tanks you know someone who's served in a vehicle you already going to say that was a great tank and it might be just because the Okinawa how you could work where you could communicate you didn't get wet every time he went through that puddle etc that's gonna make your judgment or be a very different thing but of course we also forget about when people ask you know what's the best thing it's incredibly hard to say I'm unless you are somebody who's actually yeah of course you know I love challenger too because I've been sworn challenger to and I was trained and changed soon I haven't had the benefit of being in all these other vehicles and spending a lot of time in there so yes to me it was of course a good thing and of course that's not forget we're fundamentally very proud of our respective countries so you know when British built I was coming back to that so that earlier question someone asked about the Sherman and everything actually the Sherman worked perfectly for the American Way they wanted to fight the war even if individually as a tank crewman you might found it hard work in a Sherman if you thought you were at the losing end of a panther over the other side of the field etc so and that there's this who's judging who's making that judgment about what the best tank is and we talked about earlier I'm saying you know things like even challenging one it looks such a good tank is that why I'm judging it you know just because the aesthetics somehow make something you know again we talked about that camouflage scheme that late war we've all get obsessed about German camouflage schemes on their vehicles and what an irony that scheme were putting on the AG panther that you can put on your World of Tanks game if you want on your tank there if you want to buy that and support the tank ease in but that is because they're running out of pain and yet there was all of us admiring model makers everybody else thinking the Germans were just being really really clever about their design when in actually was expediency because they weren't didn't have enough paint to the whole vehicle in the way they would have liked anyway right so we've looked at or I think we've got time for a a question for you finalists from this is very apt RTO t1 on Twitch what is the biggest challenge when restoring a tank not including money not including money yeah one thing I think is is with everything his skill set people need to have you know you can have a great engineer you can have an ex-serviceman you can have all sorts of things but it's having the empathy to how you're going to restore so when is the time we try desperately to keep that original component with certain modern vehicles you know when they're in service if this goes wrong you take it off you throw it away or it's back loaded and you burn on a brand new pit for us sometimes that might be number one we can't replace it and number two if that was that component that were there with this tank in a service history at that battle at that time that's part of the tank significance this word to use sometimes so we try and do that and it's getting everybody on board that that's what we're trying to achieve so where are we trying to say things and I'd recommend again look at our Matilda Diaries which takes you through the restoration of stories there and where these dilemmas come up on how we've debated internally what do we save what's worth replacing how do we protect things paint schemes that set your underneath so all of those things come together so sometimes it's money is vital but it's also the skill sets and the mental attitude and people doing that job and obviously you know for the museum as well you know we we haven't got all day we haven't got limitless funds limitless space and everything else so that's another thing that has to come into play a sense of urgency to get the job done with the resources available but to a standard we can be Crandell I have to say some of the rest I find it fascinating the restorations across but whether it's private collectors or museums and the things but the real foundation was one that I sort of like I often visited because it seems to me there that the team I mean they have a DES money and B the time and the expertise to put into it there but it's incredible the detail always remember looking at the Sherman he's restoring when they were just struggling to find the pencil that goes next to the commander so it was just remarkable the amount of detail they go into it and I'd get in again you know this debate could go on forever but everyone's going to come it in a slightly different attitude you know there's some restorations out there where the tanks better than it and like airplanes as well you know they were never like that when they left the factory is too good you see what I mean but but who are we to judge on that one all I would say is look at the organizations when you're going there and looking at these things why people doing different way what are their resources which is why some of these private individual people that are putting together a tank we saw stood there done by John Phillips earlier you know fantastic that they can do that so also watch your teeth when you walk up to him and say it's in the wrong color afterwards because quite rightly he's not gonna have time for people or as I was saying earlier show us yours what have you done them because just make sure that when you're approaching people and looking at these things any private person you know yes of course you're welcome to your opinion in extra but just careful how you express it when that person's put all that time and energy into something so I keep moving on in date and we run last tanks an actor nationally so we're back to you with posting Cold War tanks an action we're then go straight away from there to our final three museums so we've got the US Army armor and covery collection the National Military Museum in partnership with the historic collection of the Royal Netherlands army there's a mouthful and a half and then we're going to finish off with the austrian army museum okay [Music] now again here we've got one of those vehicles we're really lucky this is a js3 or is-3 Joseph Stalin tank we kV one family the Russians we mentioned earlier they were aware of these heavier German tanks coming so they started building on what was originally the kV family of vehicles kV 1 very small numbers kV 2 C saw action at the end of the war this tank doesn't see action for the war ends but is used in the victory parade and leading on to the t10 tank this is a tank that Fighting's the list what you've got is a very well designed armored protection the low harm the frying-pan shaped turret and here as well the idea that behind it the D 2500 22 millimeter gun you're looking there at a gun that has got five times the muscle or the muzzle energy coming out the end of that barrel compared to the earlier 76 millimeter gun that was on the original t-34 so hugely powerful gun there and a fighting tank now this tank and many of you looking at you might think this is a t54 the t54 is a tank that is designed just at the end of the Second World War and the first variant say they do a model called the t44 that was going to replacement for the original t-34 tank they decided not to build numbers and they improve on the t34 to make the t-34 85 but they get parts of the t44 as good designs of wider tracks that slope front glass April the flying handshape turret as we call it and ended up and that goes on to the t54 later the t-55 tank now this particular model was driving around on the screen at the moment this is actually a Chinese copy of the t54 tank when the Soviets are ready to Army Soviet government was friendly with Mao and the Chinese government they handed over the plans and so the Chinese Marinko industries build a copy and that is called the type 59 and that's what the tank driving around there was now this is the british centurion tanks and Kurian just misses the end of the Second World War operation sentry they send out centurion tanks out to Germany misses in war by about six weeks and you can see now that Britain has done away with that step front with me as we saw earlier with a comic tank the Beezer machine gun we've got rid of it and got that smooth we put on the gun we start with a 17 pounder then a 20-pounder then 105 millimeter gun and here's an illustration you can keep improving the center if that was the great thing about it and this is an improved Swedish version new engine in the back add-on armour reactive Armour there as well you've got and this was in service that type of century for many years later centuries still in service with the South Africans called the olefin recovery version so a whole family of vehicles were bait on this booth based on the Centurion hull so mark to recovery tank later model centurion driving around there with the searchlight on side and that was the great thing about the tank you could keep improving on it 13 marks and british army service now when the German army reformed in 1955 after World War Two they end up first of all using American tanks and then they start a design program for their own vehicle which they initially called the standard Panzer and first of all they're working with a French like so many post-war cooperations lots of good ideas goes well till finally there's a falling-out about design criteria so the Germans go alone and they come up with this a leopard one and it's a real change from that delight design philosophy of the late war heavy tanks like the King Tiger here they've gone for thin armor good firepower that's a British hunter in five millimeter gun there and they've gone for speed so they put a thumping grey MTU diesel engine in the back there and that gives this vehicle mobility with Germans at the time had the philosophy that pretty much if you're going to get hit it's gonna penetrate you don't get hit in the first place make sure you are so mobile so quick around the battlefield that you are not going to be a target for the enemy and the speed is a defense mechanism in itself now this particular leopard one is actually if you look on the tire a little maple leaf just above where the gun is there that's because it's served with the Canadian Defense Forces the Canadians bought leopards lots of countries bought there too after they got rid of their Centurions so he became almost like a European tank now the Americans after the Second World War they do a family of vehicles are often called the Patton tanks in 47 and 48 this is the m60 and very similar design criteria but they just seem to get bigger and here you've got this huge great cast turret great big cast hull there and again that use of the British 105 millimeter l7 gun the reason for the l7 gun everyone uses it because all of a sudden it becomes a gun comes into play that means some of the bigger 120 millimeter guns are redundant and firing discarding sabot ammunition this is a gun that can do so many roles at different guns did before so most of the Western Allies end up using the variance of the l7 gun here you can see it's got a boat shaped hull we're used to seeing v-shaped hull nails the idea behind that was that if a mine went off the blast went up the sides and here's a bit your favorite for use well certainly this takes me back up in the next three tanks I think of Tanks that I actually physically served on this is the one that I back in the 1980s and now they cook the very famous Cold War tank the chieftain the efi for 201 this would actually learn everything on tanking so my very first trade was on this particular vehicle and my that first trade was that of a gunner and some would argue rightly or wrongly that it was the the best tank of that particular period certainly the the firepower was fantastic the 120 millimeter rifled gun incredibly accurate and very very good indeed good Armour protection all over especially the glass to display as well the thing that let sit down and everybody would say that when you think of chieftain was the reliability of chieftain chieftain was not a reliable vehicle in fact early stages of the chieftain design there was one point 90% breakdowns reported on chieftain and I have to say for mostly serving on it that's pretty accurate figure to be perfectly honest I don't recall many times whether we took it out on up the roads to practice going to a hide or something it would break down and certainly when I got on later life and became a driver I'd spend a lot of time ahead of the Dex so late 1980s we needed a replacement and it was all about the reliability of chieftain Along Came challenger challenge one later on got really designated of course but Chandler initially and it was it was like going from a Volkswagen Beetle to a Ferrari as far as we were concerned in the tank world it was fantastic and then no motor no to pull noticeable difference was that of the driving of it I think even from the video you can see the speeds compared to that and the chieftain is quite remarkable and you know we didn't talk a lot about crew comfort and things really on there but it makes a difference but also makes a tactical difference with the the hydropneumatic suspension which we now had on challenge one it meant that firing on the move was a lot easier than it ever was on chieftain on chieftain you get these horrible glen key clunky gear changes in between so it's a gun on a challenging one it's a lot easier it's actually accurately fire on the move and this was the period when firing them all the move was all the way through and later on of course then we came to change your tune a fantastic vehicle but of course I think we spoke about this a bit earlier I'm not that I'm biased in any way shape or form some of them made the differences why it's called challenge it's a well it's a bit of a sort of questions up for discussion as really it's only about three percent of the parts are actually interchangeable with challenger 1 so for all intents purposes it was a brand new vehicle hydro gas suspension wearing the keys seems to have four features on there for identification purposes you look above the barrel you've got thermal observation and gunnery system this was then enabled us it came later on surly chieftain better on chieftain one but is by time Chief into is home to a fine art the thermal observation site and it meant I intensified targets for us was so much easier and it wasn't just all about engaging at night although that was of course possible now it also meant that we can actually pick up heat signatures from vehicles in the distance as well so it's very very good thing to say dirty so I'll just go in to trap you here yeah we were up there and just seeing that one of the things as well individual tank on tank when we were there and you see those tanks moving the shock and or just the noise firing on the move I was just amazed at the speed they were going that's one of those other things that imagine if you're on the receiving end of that yeah there is an awe about and coming towards you you know that very little of a few things you know maybe a fast jet flying low yeah auntie's here we go it's no t-72s what the sort of thing what might have been if the Cold War become how you guys would have been up against this was all about our AFA recognition was always about see he's tempted to be shaped glasses play except for except I was actually fortunate enough to drive one of these in the the C's ed the Czech variant of the t-72 a great vehicle I mean a really really good vehicle as I said for us it was the archenemy there was always a comment about sort of in particular going back to chieftain versus these soviet vehicles was that chief that was a fantastic vehicle as long as it broke down in a good firing position so the t71 absolutely loved its it's a low profile it's very very effective it's it is what it is it does what it says on the tin c-17 well good day tank fest fans I hope you're enjoying the program today my name is Rob Cogan and I'm the curator at the US Army armored and cavalry collection at Fort Benning Georgia our mission is to preserve and conserve the armored branch history that doesn't just include armored fighting vehicles like the ones behind me but also going back to the horse cavalry days our collection consists of quite a various assortment of vehicles all the way back to the earliest tanks of World War one probably the largest collection were one vehicles in North America then going into World War two besides course having American tanks like the Sherman which we have quite a selection of behind me we also have quite a fascinating collection of German tanks and tank destroyers all captured by US forces in combat during World War two probably very fascinating to some of our fans out there we have a very good selection of prototype vehicles probably the most famous course being the t28 super-heavy tank as well as other prototypes throughout the last 100 years so when the tank museum approached us and asked us to feature a vehicle on the move for everybody for tankfest online of course I wanted to pick something that was all-american but of course first that comes Maya course Sherman tank such a classic American design but usually in the past that take Museum has usually had at least one running Sherman on display for tank fest so I want to pick something different so luckily for you because we are located here with the United States Army armor school at Fort Benning we have a special treat today for you on the move we have the m1 Abrams main battle tank so earlier on we saw the m60 when the Americans started a project they're called mbt-70 it was a joint project with the Germans that again became too expensive too technologically advanced didn't quite work so that was scrapped and they then start the xm1 project which leads to the Abrams and as part of that they first of all they look at the British gun they know they want to put 120 millimeter gun on the tank when it goes into production later on so early em ones end up with the British 105 later models with a hundred and twenty millimeter gun but issues as well with the interestingly the American design team on a trip to Britain they're shown Burlington which is a new secret armor that's being put together and we haven't actually put it on a British tank yet but that's shared so that goes on to what becomes the Abrams tank and again engineering-wise one of the interesting things about abrams 120 millimeter gun a new type of laminate armour but they also use the gas turbine engine which again was a big radical departure and you've seen these things in operation having you they're quite impressive but it's a kick and they can motor we did a couple of exchange visits with the the Americans where we obviously got to actually drive a few of these and also caused in the last Gulf War when we actually worked alongside them I have to say you mentioned the gas turbine is the most distinctive feature and the sound of the gas turbine you will never forget it once you've ever heard it driving the vehicle unbelievable it's the acceleration because like gas turbine engines absolutely fantastic limiters on don't they because you could put we shake the vehicle apart sort of things so the only thing now is again this is how again how tanks in service with this amount of time they've gone through enormous upgrades and you'll see that you know an urban operations that upgrades for tasks for example they're going through this still upgrading they're still putting a bronze tank through the factories and that idea that a tank has been that long in service but one of the issues with course with a gas turbine early days in America was not a country that was worried about fuel consumption now amazing you know these are issues and affecting everybody and a gas turbine the downside of it is you're only going about half the distance with the fuel load with a diesel powered vehicle on the similar fuel note will go so that's one of those things of other countries having to look at similar on the S tank you know distinctive noise much more powerful smaller engine that's great but that's that's one of those problem things now I think here we can actually see them firing this 120 in there I believe this is a training sword and we're looking at yeah they just wanted us to mention that as well so the m1 m1 a twos and a ones that you see in this actually belong to the 194th armored brigade and the 316th cavalry brigade and these units the two training components in the u.s. armored school at Fort Benning in Georgia I really do hope you are enjoying today's program I'd like to take a moment to thank the tech museum for inviting us to participate and tankfest online this year hopefully next year we can make it out there again in person and if you'd like to know more about what the US Army armor and Calvary collection is doing please give us a like and follow on Facebook or on Twitter we're also on there as well and enjoy the rest of tankfest online [Music] welcome at the National Military Museum of the Netherlands located at the former sister Berg airbase my name is Alex Tomlin head of collections and this is our arsenal by some considered is the biggest boys toy box in the world the museum displays all military equipment the Royal Netherlands army and air force have used over years weapons uniforms artillery vehicles aircraft and of course thanks Sherman the Chevy Centurion the leopard 2a6 which is still in use at the army today special exhibitions we show foreign loans such as this guests from bhavanti you might recognize it's a very rare King Tiger or furnished tiger it's a part of the exhibition and commemoration at the end of World War 2 75 years ago we also show vehicles in our arena to demonstrate the roles for which they are intended that means tanks in action we do this together we are with our partners from the historical collection of the royal netherlands army this group of dedicated specialists and enthusiasts from the army itself operate a large fleet of running historic vehicles you might know them because they're also a regular participant tankfest I'm use them because knowing soesterberg and the collections there and working with Alfred but also with the Royal Dutch army royal netherlands army their historic collection they have a stunning collection of vehicles that are used for things such as commemorative parades events historic events and turning up at events at the Museum so that they can drive around and again there were stories the the team they so we have a great chance to talk with them and exchange ideas and sometimes parts sometimes all sorts of things we can go on so good relationship would have been built up with bobbington and the Dutch military now here you can see their leopard 2a4 and the chaps who are out there doing this they evidently had a whale of a time with a drone on this particular day is filming 2a4 so we mentioned already the leopard one when the Germans first of all they they go to try and have again another corporate event you with the Americans to replace the original leopard one when that doesn't really come to anything with the mbt-70 project we just talked about earlier with the Abrams they go their own way and they go for leopard 2 and what they've got here is 120 millimeter Roy Mattel gun again an enlarged MTU engine the diesel engine on the back there and where the Germans were very clever with this vehicle the Dutch by the way of some of the first to buy the leopard 2 as well off the Germans this they keep that sense of mobility they've got with the leopard one up but they add to the protection levels with the leopard - so you've got a very mobile vehicle with very good levels of protection and again the powerful 120 millimeter rheinmetall gun and I know you've actually had a closer look at these Richard enemies when we serve in Germany we used to work quite often will with you with the the German army and yeah it is one of my favorite vehicles also and the reliability is fantastic and it's a real tank tank no I mean by that is is it's good for the crew that it's pretty robust it means that when you're tired you've been on exercise for a few days you're not going to put your foot in the wrong place and break something inside the turret so the crews absolutely love it and of course it comes variety of variants all over the place been updated and modernized but certainly one of that one of the most impressive things I ever saw was a packed lift so changing the engine on one of these which they managed to do ridiculously quick time it sound like 40 odd minutes or something which which was so quick so super vehicle and very well designed so the dutch again one of those nations that got rid of its tanks amazingly like so many you know canada did as well european companies as well got rid of the tanks next moment they needed them back so they've actually now i think they rent or they were actually acquiring off the germans they serve with them now the leopard 2a6 or one with the pointed front turret so tanks are back with the dutch army in the normal circumstances we would have organized a denture here in this arena in august together with our partners from the historical collection of the army but because of the situation to cancel that event we hope to see you all some other time for more information please visit our website and amend of NL or follow us on Facebook Instagram or YouTube Thank You buffington for the opportunity to be our guest today [Music] hello from the Austrian army Museum in Vienna we are one of the oldest military museums in the world and the museum was built in the 1850s it opened in 1872 and the building is in neoclassic greek-inspired style and contains collections from the sixteen hundreds until today the first exhibition was made of the weapons and trophy collections of the emperors of the austro-hungarian empire from the 30 Years War to the Napoleonic Wars the history of the Austrian soldiers told one of the most interesting objects in the museum is of course of European importance the car and the uniform of Hajduk Franz Ferdinand who was assassinated in Sarajevo in 1914 the exhibition about World War one tells stories of mountain warfare and the horrors of the trench war against Russia the museum contains also a collection of the austrian navy until 1918 the austrian army of the republic from 1919 to 1938 is presented together with the exhibition about world war ii from 1939 to 1945 the todays austrian army was created in 1955 and the exhibition about a new army goes until 1991 the recently opened tank Hall presents 36 running armored fighting vehicles starting with the idea of left-handed boorsteins motorized gun in 1912 to the main battle tank leopard 2a4 of a modern austrian army [Music] so here we've got a tank that many of you I've imagined if you looked at it from a distance first of all you're going to say something like oh it's a French AMX 13 what you're looking at is actually it's not an AMX 30 it's an Austrian version of a vehicle that they call the pure se a basically named after the cavalry you never even see the guy with his breastplate in there it's always open it's a tank that first of all they get the first set of turrets actually come from France from the AMX 30 it's what they call that oscillating turret so the whole top goes up and down with a gun and it's a placing a medium pressure 105 millimeter government could on it and they use for the hull it's actually a stayer built austrian armored personnel carrier and the advantage here is you've actually got a powerful gun that could be a tank destroying gun on a very light chassis and again one of the other things we talked about you know just the idea of Biggers better all the time yes it might be in terms of protection levels but this is a tank that is very mobile it slice enough it's only about eight tonnes waiting time sorry we can go in the back of a Hercules can we transport it around the place and again think about just some of the terrains getting a big heavy tank to some of the locations is not going to be easy so here's one of those innovation vehicles that again in Austria they ended up building about 284 of them they went out to service some years ago about they were upgraded first of all so they had an 88 one and then an a2 model but they went out of service in about 2006 the tank you're looking at is actually the last of the tanks it was in service with the Austrian army but they had an on sale and these are of now vehicles that have gone to Morocco Tunisia Bolivia Argentina Brazil in Botswana's got them in serviced and some countries have operated their own once again so when we were looking at a vehicle like this it's another important thing to remember yes we like those bigger heavier vehicles all the time but for some countries just having some form of armoured fighting vehicle with a with a good quality gun on me that's going to give you a winning position so that's worth thinking about here and we've actually got France who was introducing the Australia of the Austrian military museum there earlier he's actually crewing this he was a tank crewman himself and I think he ended up on leopards that were there as well so this is one of those vehicles that may make you think it's name x13 but no it's not a service an indigenous conversion by the Austrians and there you can see the Austrian flag and I was very careful earlier on to pick up the fact that's the army symbol in the middle of the Austrian flag there is this vehicle drives a lot see you in the oldest military museum of the world because Wars belongs to the seals [Music] some leaders show me that AMX David of course is so we've got to thank all those museums that have put forward their videos again go back to tankfest org and you can have a look there at links to their sites do have a look and if you've got the opportunity look you've just seen yourself so if you've watched all those the range of vehicles that they house their vehicles their collections not just I mean look at that the end of one we haven't been there every little what we definitely need an invite of you know I think it looks stunning absolutely so thank you there to rob Cogan out in America alfred who's out in holland so well done Alfred and Friends you know thank you so much again providing those films for us I mentioned that because again come back to what are we doing all this fall please do if you've got an opportunity of supporting those museums supporting our museum we can't put on tankfest this year sorry about that we are gonna make open the museum someone asks a question earlier we are going to be opening on July the six and one of the things that we just wanted to say go to the website because we can't open the galleries will be open but we won't be opening 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got the chance to come back because that's telling this tank soldiers story as well as showing off these amazing bits of machinery have you been seen today like the KITT behind us thank you sorry did we have a question we might go on pedal one end question yeah you should want to say anything else saying first but the end question I've got for you and and I'm not sure this was made I probably think a question from free free free channel YouTube is the museum be really good what about that for a close no so there you go so what we've got we've got everything from Toby Tiger tanks if you want to make a model of r131 that's so you know kind of one of these brick ones and everything but we also we've got everything top Trump tanks we've got the books I've been telling about the books by a Tank Museum calendar but for the discerning male and female I'm told these days you can buy yourself some Tank Museum beer and we've actually I've opened the bottle and I've poured a little bit out I did 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