Sunday Morning Worship 10-3-21

well good morning this is the time say how you doing all right man good good well let's get started this morning uh good to see the good deacon coming in with the other good deacons praise the lord you and uh sister godbolt really looking devin there you are headed to some unique uh you headed to hollywood for something uh y'all just walking in the groove or just walking praise the lord all right uh let's sing a little bit i don't know oh um thank you lord thank you lord we thank you lord i just want to thank you lord sometimes you just gotta thank him don't you so we thank you lord we thank you i just want to thank you lord you've been so good you've been so good you've been so [Music] and i just want to pay thank you lord brother c books uh see so we leave this in prayer please [Music] by the precious blood of the night thank you thank you thank you multitude of blessings that you shower us with each and every day a new sunrise just the blessings of life and we can't thank you thank you come asking for you to bless us this day with understanding and wisdom that comes from [Music] amen amen sister thank you for that prayer all right if you got your word if you've got your bible in some form or fashion let's go to second correct second corinthians chapter one i want to read a few verses and we're going to move past the next phase i want to get to the next slide we've been working through this business called managing grief and i hope you you have an understanding about those two terms uh that we are working through uh a perpetual process uh the reality of living in a fallen world we will always be managing grief to some degree whether it be actually the loss and while you're turning there our hearts are still mourning the loss of our beloved brother bruce who had his services on uh on friday and for those who attended we just want to thank god for your presence and your participation and your involvement and then of course uh we are now grieving the loss of woody morrison his service will be this coming saturday i mean you guys didn't know i thought we mentioned this last was i hear i wasn't here last sunday was it yeah i pray for my yeah he passed and there will be a service on friday a viewing and this funeral was on on saturday i talked with jonathan uh yesterday and we just talked and i told him i'm planning to attend and we'll be bringing a resolution from figueroa talk with billy curl and we're going to also have a resolution from the churches of christ in the city of los angeles so pray for pray for us on that uh as well and then the church will be sending some flowers but he passed uh he was uh i think 89. i think that's what jonathan said and so pray for jonathan pray for the family brother woody morrison we loved him he was here for a number of years i met him through kevin uh him and kevin were very close brother morrison worked with brother bowers and brother hogan he was one of the ministers of evangelism here and so i talked with billy about it and learned much more about woody than i than i thought kat found a picture of us myself louis uh woody and kevin and then she said i had one somewhere so i'm looking for it so pray for them and pray for safe travel for us all right first corinthians second corinthians let's just want to read this and then we'll get get started uh verses three through five blessed be the god and father of our lord jesus christ the father of mercies and god of all comfort who comforts us in all our tribulation that we may be able to comfort those who are in any trouble with the comfort with which we ourselves and this is interesting are comforted by who by god for as the sufferings of christ abound in us so our consolation also abounds through christ there is what i have called dependent comfort and interdependent comfort when i talk about dependent comfort at the end of the day we are comforted by who by god okay god comforts us so that we might be able to do what comfort one another okay and all of us believe it or not and i'm gonna talk about this in my sermon all of us are ministers okay it has nothing to do with your gender male or female if you're in christ jesus you've been called to do ministry now your ministry may not be my ministry my ministry is not going to be your ministry but god works with you in your own giftedness to be able to reach someone and most of us if not all of us have lost something and lost somebody and so we know something about the woundedness of loss we know something about the pain we know something about the long-haul lingering facts of of things that have been lost that's just the world in which we live and it's through the holy spirit and the word of god that we learn to manage it as best we can some better than others some need more work but all of us are on that trajectory so we're on the same page and so what we want to talk about this morning is uh hopefully by now you've been processing uh the need to and we got this from joshua chapter one when we talked about you know joshua and moses and that in that scenario talked about acknowledging the grief accepting the grief and then adapting and adjusting this is not a one-time thing you will be continually going through this process and there is a blessing in it believe it or not as painful as it is there is a blessing in it because what we learned through it would be different at each phase you know simply because you grieve the loss of one person that mean you are proficient in grieving because losses are different the loss of a job the loss of a home the loss of physicalities the loss of loved ones the loss of those who are very close to you are very different from just general losses so i'm careful not to generalize losses but to be specific about them as they relate to your personality and who you are okay and so we don't all grieve the same way we gotta understand that i had to learn this because you know very early in my mental stuff and even in my parental journey i had a cookie called a cookie cutter thank you the cookie i want a cookie huh y'all pray for me but y'all pray for your preacher i said cookie and oreo and the chocolate chip popped in my mind i need help uh i had a cookie cutter approach to everything until i found out that there is more than one cookie in the world and then when you got fo chillin a spouse and you are included that's with me as a just additional three people in the house i found that the cookie cutter approach it won't work it works while everybody is controllable and then they run into this thing called puberty and adolescence and they make you rearrange everything and then with your own stuff and so my point is there is no cookie cutter approach to managing grief but there are some basic things and we've talked about them accepting acknowledging accepting and adapting and adjusting and all of these will be different for all of us but that template is there and we learned this from joshua chapter one okay what we got to deal with now is the reality that we got to trust god in the process so i shared with you proverbs 3 5 and 6 the theme passage for my family you got to learn to trust god uh and then the challenge of this text is not so much trusting god but it's you know really the challenges stop leaning on your own understanding and i don't know about you my biggest challenge is i keep getting in god's way you know because i've been informed that i'm informed you know only to find out that your information in mind is limited you understand what i'm saying and what happens as we learn we we start walking in more confidence of our learning but there are some things you and i can't learn about we just know about for instance i can't comprehend death and dying let alone life and it's easier to say that you ought to know better well i'm still living uh and life is not stagnant last week i was 63 now i'm 64 and the numbers are not going down they're going up and as the numbers go up mother earth is pulling me down are y'all with me and so and so i haven't been here long enough to tell you i know about life in general in the broad sense but i can tell you about living to some degree and here's my point the moment you and i think we've got to figure it out life reminds you that you don't and of course if you go to enough services you'll figure out that this concept of death is outside of my ability to understand so that's why we need to do what trust in the lord what do you mean allow the lord to work with you wherever you are in whatever you are i can give you a scripture but that scripture means nothing to you until god helps you to understand i don't it's above my pay grade to believe that i can help you understand god i can't but god can and then understand to trust god has a lot to do with your knowledge of god you can't trust in someone that you don't know there's an experiment you can do take one of your grandbabies stand them up here and bring two people with you and have both of them say jump and guess what their grand baby will do nope stay right there but if you say jump that grand baby will do what jump off this table into your arm why won't this grandchild be at male female jump into the arms of another person no relationship not that i've never seen you before i don't know you so i don't have enough trust in you to jump trusting is to jump in the arms of the lord whether you can see him or not and allow him to catch you and then cuddle you and provide you with what you need and what blows me about another thing about god is his omnipresence that he knows everybody and knows what everybody's going through you know he knows what cat is going through he knows what i'm going through but we got to trust him and so you got to jump into his arm the way you trust him is that you get in his word and you allow his spirit to connect with your spirit that makes sense and so trust in the lord with all your what and do that what yeah and here's the problem i can't get out of jehovah's way because i always have something to say but but i'm the only one in this audience like that how many of you talk you be talking to someone and you step on them while you're talking all right i'm the only one the rest of you people need to repent they're you can repent online now if you're scared to write it down uh how many of you are like that you get to get on the topic you get on the run and you know you don't even hit another person because you just can't wait to get in there then when you get in there you occupy all the space and suck all the oxygen out we need help don't you know you know how we do that because we're convinced we got an answer for it and that's why the bible says in james chapter one be what swift no he didn't say that he said be swift to speak well why are we and so in a hurry to speak because we thank you we have convinced ourselves that we have guess what understanding now which of us has been on this planet long enough to have knowledge understanding and wisdom at the superior level you may now leave the class if you have reached that level the rest of us it's a working progress the problem with what we learn even as believers is that we're quick to share it but learning is developmental you don't learn everything in one one lesson life is a lesson life is a teacher you learn about yourself you learn about god and you learn also to be still and to be quiet you learn when to speak and when not to speak and what to say at those times those things are important when you're managing your grief because guess what we still need understanding so we ask holy spirit help us help me through this and god will and he works with you not on a cookie cutter program but he knows your personality and he knows mine what i might need you may not need and that's true for the next person so remember as best you can try not to lean on all that you know because you're going to wake up and you're going to see this big god of ours and you're going to find out if like me how ignorant i really am because god is beyond my little finite mind he's amazing but yet he breaks through in history and meets you in the midst of our grief and our pain you know and if you look through the scriptures sometimes it appears that god expects more out of people and grieving look at joshua there's no evidence that god came along and cuddled him moses my servant is dead rise and go may appear to be insensitive but it's not there was something god knew about joshua and then sometimes in grief god knows some of us need to be put to work we need to direct energy someplace else because we will allow depression and anxiety and disappointment to find this place and if you're like me i have a propensity towards those things and i'll be locked in on it so guess what god does with me he keeps me busy now i do have my space where i need to be still in process all of that and then of course we're going to talk about that in a minute because one of the one of the cycles of the seven cycles of grief by kuberla ross is denial and that denial is that space where you and i go to to shield ourselves from being hurt by the reality so we're dismissing oh i see him again and you know that's what mary and martha told jesus you remember when when lazarus died you know and and and and they were hired at jesus uh and and they asked where were you and and jesus says you'll see your brother again yeah i know i will see you you could you could be dismissive and not even know it and so those those realities are real so don't be afraid of where you are in your grief now word of caution here just be careful who you share stuff with not everybody is mature enough to handle where you may be you know i've seen situations where people were grieving and then appear to be grieving and people ask them well why aren't you why aren't you sad well how you know i'm not saying you know and then my thing is who are you sad and mad you know and so you can see the emotions that come out we have to be sensitive to those that's why space and wisdom sometimes just being present being kind and sometimes knowing when to be distant you know and it's it's it's a journey there are no easy answers to any of this okay so learn to trust the lord acknowledge him and guess what he'll do he'll make straight he'll he'll make you past strength he'll in other words he'll he'll he'll guide you through it because remember now psalms 119 105 your word is what is a lamp for my feet and the life of my path a lamp is for me to see right now what's going on and a light is to direct me where i need to go we're good with that all right so we're going to move on from here and we're going to hang out here i shared a little bit about her uh i won't revisit that but this is the model we're going to be looking at and there are several others out there now this is one of the modified stages of her seven stages of grief they're initially five we'll talk about some of those but all of these involve what we go through and we talked a little bit about this two weeks ago uh before i left and that is this business of shock when we learned that bruce we lost bruce shock this morning i just disclosed and i thought you knew that woody morrison had passed and i saw the looks on some of your faces you didn't know well that's a form of shock not all shock you know sends you unconsciously laying out on the floor okay it's that moment you get news that stimulates your mind and thinking about what is transpired okay and so it's the initial paralysis at hearing the bad news and the paralysis there are vary one of the first paralysis is guess what we all have it an emotional response you know when you heard it your eyes got wide your eyebrows furrowed or just like i didn't know yo listen physiologically you know you you gasp you know you may have to take a breath that lets you know you're human now if you get bad news and you just sit there and you're still in store you need a couple of sessions therapy sessions psychotherapeutic session because that's not a normal response okay now i don't want to hang out there too long but sometimes [Music] people develop that who have been wounded previously even as a child it's a strong defense mechanism against any bad news you know because they've been so wounded and it's interesting there is something called if you will the uh the uh well i won't go there the cinderella syndrome where you create a false a false narrative and you live in that narrative to get away from the reality it's kind of like you know taking the journey to go meet the king and in my mind you know you've been mopping the floor and now all of a sudden you've been changing you cinderella uh who wants to come back to do what mop the floor so you lose sight of what time you got to be back you know well long story short we have to meander those waters responsibly what appears to be a shock for one may not be a shock for another but that doesn't dismiss some initial paralysis of the emotions uh sometimes we get horrific news and you know i mean what were your feelings when we learned in 2020 that kobe had lost his life i mean that sucked the oxygen out of the whole yeah out of the worship because joe made it because now i do want while we're right there brethren when you get ready to make any news see the preacher first please you know not that the news is not important you don't want to do it right before i'm being facetious now giving say amen right before i preach right before service right before praise and worship bingo so have enough wisdom you know but you know we love we know everybody you know and it just makes my point that hitting joe in a way that i didn't know because you never know how people look even at superstars quote unquote you know and of course everybody loves kobe i liked kobe i loved it you know but that sucked not only the oxygen out of this facility it sucked the island's oxygen out of the city of los angeles and from what i'm hearing the nation and majoring the world you know and everybody responded differently you know it was but you get my point and so just be aware of that don't take light of of people who don't respond like you okay accept it adapt and adjust okay don't try to make them feel what you feel don't tell them how to feel don't don't become a therapist because we all need therapy allow the wisdom you've learned from god know when to be quiet when to be still and to settle in on the moment okay everybody needs an opportunity to process okay now people who deny that they are not in shock okay maybe the word shock is too strong but you you have some emotional response to it okay and then number two this business of denial i want to hang out here for a moment and what i recommend with these because these are based upon these are theoretical models based upon scientific observation you're aware of that right none of these come directly out of the bible this is not biblical this is just in the world of of of of human learning scientific studies and research uh you know those who do this type of work sociologists they gather data and they look at consistent patterns among humans and they come with a list matter of fact kubeler set the stage she wrote a book on death and dying you might want to consider buying it but even then guess what she's a human and she's limited yet she's gifted and so this business of denial is trying to avoid the inevitable how many know anything about denial yeah we all do now you can deny that you know july now you're denying don't say that that's never called members of the lord's church lying you're denying you're denying the reality how do you know why do you think we buy up all of the uh live forever things on our 11 at the stores gerald plus 50 plus plus holy water no water alkaline water anti-aging cream packing it on pretty soon we don't know who you are you don't know who you are no pun intended but my point is this guess what you're doing over we don't deny we don't deny we're going to live forever you know i hear people saying man you you know you don't look your age well i appreciate your perspective but i am my host now if you hear more of that guess what you start doing you start believing you're 30 again i'm 64. i'm not 30. oh but you look 30. now one or two things either you can't see or you're lying or you deny i'm being facetious but you get my point and hear me now all of us are victims of it you know we just believe that we're going to be better we're going to feel better and and you find out the stuff you've been taking you don't know what it's made of where it came from you don't even know what it is but you claim it's working i took two of those you should see me yeah yeah i'm gonna build another waiting for your crash because whatever man gives you we'll take you up but you also you got to crash you go land but your relationship with god gives you what you need to sustain your mind body and soul through all of this in a responsible way so as not to act out of who you really are okay so it's accepting i talked about you know this life chronology chart that i have when you when you wrap your mind about around where you are and who you are then you can make the adjustments okay so denial is really important you know how many of you are denying getting older they lied know i kind of like the thought you know uh but but how many of you struggle with denial okay one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah now hearing that when i say struggle if you you can't grow if you don't struggle what's the struggle well the struggle is accepting where i am and where i may be going based upon knowledge wisdom and understanding for instance how many of you believe you're gonna be down here forever and you're gonna look like you're forever i mean then by the common sense to tell you after a while you know the body has a strange way of having a one-on-one with you you don't even have to look in the mirror you can be lying in the bed you can just come from a good workout and drink up all the health juice and all of a sudden what's that well there ain't nobody at the door and if it is you can't get up and go to it you know you're just that's life so you have to adjust it and one of the dangers of living on this planet is that we are more filled with humanism and secularism than we are with god and we don't want to admit it so we deny that i'm not like the world i ain't in the world i do well hold up hold up yeah you are you're in the world you live in the carnal world and you're now carnal and you're in our worldly until you acknowledge and accept that god can't help you to move past that or to manage it not all things honor or sinful but they can't become is that right and so a knowledge of god helps you to work through wherever you are in a responsible way so that you can have what's called pma who knows what pma is p as in paul m as in mary a as an answer positive mental attitude pma brothers you don't have did you have pma i'll leave that alone pma either it's going to be positive or it's going to be negative and sometimes you got to accept that i have a negative mental attitude and if you have that's learned behavior you were taught that to have a positive mental attitude you were taught that as well god wants you to have what yeah a positive mental attitude i didn't say everything's gonna be a hunky-dory but when you garner knowledge from god it'll help you deal with shock denial anger bargaining depression testing and acceptance all of those because those are things we go through and sometimes we want to be super christians and we're being unrealistic god allowed pain you wear that because of sin god has tolerated man's failure and so the consequences of what you're not going through are not his fault man did that to himself but look how gracious god is no sooner than man sinned sinned in genesis 3 god provided a way out no sooner when he was giving out the curses and the blessings he had already in his in his infinite wisdom given us grace cain killed his brother and got grace adam and eve listen got kicked out of the garden but still had grace but they had to get out of the garden some of their consequences okay and so accepting this thing called denial is very important and that is you got to ask yourself why am i in denial what am i afraid of and usually when we're in denial there's something lurking behind denial and his first cousin called fear fear the fear the unknown and listen you will always be fearful of the unknown but because you trust in the lord you need not feel the unknown because he knows about the unknown as a matter of fact while i'm there there is nothing not known that god doesn't know about he's god you know and what he does with his spirit and his word he shares he shares his insight on those things fences deuteronomy 29 29 the sacred things belong to god but the things written belong to us that makes sense i don't know where god lives i don't know how he came about to comprehend god is outside of my rational linear mind but i believe he exists how do you know no man can hold that sun up and the moon up at the same time in the stars no man can tell the water you can go so far and no further no man can tell god where he stores his hell and his reign he says have you read the book it's his mind made a humble you and so that level of knowledge makes us worship god even in our pain because we know god knows something about that that makes sense you had your hand up it was yesterday you had your hand up sister i'm sorry so shock denial and then anger when you know about a week ago two ago we went to john chapter 11. did we see any of these with mary and martha y'all remember when we worked through that which one of those did you see with it would marry your mother anger how do y'all know she was angry they ran out yeah when you look at that text jesus hadn't even got to the city limits and there you go i believe martha left the way and then mary came later but they had a script already written have you been here my brother wouldn't have died and i just i had to learn i'm still studying jesus and jesus you know when you're god you're not bothered but yet he was both guarded man he he he had a tender heart towards their anxiety isn't that amazing bingo bingo it is legit and and point well taken but it speaks also to their level of belief because he told both of them when they made their argument and they were correct but jesus delayed on purpose and he told the voice while he delayed i'm doing this for your benefit watch this then god then jesus said to mary after she made that statement i am the resurrection and the life watch this man i'm not yesterday's resurrection i'm not tomorrow's resurrection i'm the living walking resurrection now i'm a venture to say and i get it they didn't understand that but and and your point is right their level here's the problem and it's not a problem it's developmental their level of faith had not matured enough to know that whether he live or die we'll see our brother again because he tells him that i am the resurrection and the life though a man dies yesterday to live again do you believe this yeah we believe that we've been bible class now you you're missing it i am the resurrection right now so he left it alone they were frustrated what else they were angry i think some depression might have set in there it was hot and so they still upset even after jesus said what are you saying so guess what jesus did show me show me in other words your faith is right here but now i'm going to help you with it over here okay so show me where you're lady now watch this now the frustration ain't going nowhere how do you know making his way down to the tomb and which one of them women said well lord ain't no neither going down there basically he smells yeah yeah yeah one of the sisters told him that now what does that tell you about them after the lesson he just gave don't you know who i am right now the resurrection which speaks to all of these things but but the stabilizing factor was don't and don't you miss that point the stabilizing factor in dealing with loss with grief and managing is jesus because we can make the same arguments with jesus right now i've been serving you all my life i preach go to bible class why is this happening to me well who told you what part of your bible class and what part of your preaching preacher told you that you have a certain license with this god of yours that excludes you from reality so the problem with that and so that's why we have to trust him even when it doesn't make sense because your mind and my minds are limited they are finite they are linear and and not you and they are narcissistic we care about more about who i said they wanted their brother back for who they hadn't thought through that if he rise up out of the grave he got to die again so they'll be going to another funeral and then that you don't see that in that reading but when you back away and you look at that where did you go he raised him did he not he gave him what they wanted and said loosen and let him go so what did he do what text doesn't say but when you you know start thinking this stuff through you have to die again you get my point so but i will say this i will believe that in that second death they had learned some lessons about jesus and here's no point sometimes god has to allow this process to take place because it's a means of getting you and i back to where we need to be focusing on him and listen we don't have a license that allows god to give us what we want when we want him if that's the case he wouldn't delayed four days and so his delay wasn't about lazarus it was about them even when jesus wept what do you think he was crying over the text says he saw the women mourning they were crying and they that culture had professional mourners and they had little tear bottles you remember we went to israel and we went in and we saw some of the artifacts they had this little this little digital stone vows and they were tear drops women would cry them and they would use them you know it's a part of their mourning process but my point is all of these experiences we have to trust truth jesus so he says where you lady and you know the rest is history and he goes and he raises them from the dead another thing to think about is what happens at the resurrection and the death and resurrection of jesus forgot about the grave believers got up out there great i remember that and walked around in the city well question where did they go afterwards ain't nobody in heaven yet to my knowledge you know where did they go it's a good question you know uh and you can get hung out there but in reality the focus always has to go back to who jesus i am the resurrection and the lies no man dies yesterday he live again to never die again isn't that interesting what if i told you right now right now you have to tell my life you believe that first you're on fire you have eternal life well well well why do i have to die why would you want to focus on dying and here's my point if you have eternal life see what helps us through this process is not death death is the consequence of sin and the consequence of sin is eternal life where is it it's in jesus that's why the believers have hope that's why we sorrow not as others we have no hope and the hope is not the hope of the resurrection the hope is the hope in jesus the resurrected one that makes sense okay so all of these all of these are reality denying what you got to do is you got to work through them with somebody and that's why we have a grief ministry here and i mentioned this last week these books are just amazing several of us went to the stevens ministry and i've read through each one and while reading to them you know they triggered some transferring stuff for me at the loss of people around my life my dad my mother family members you think you've moved on every now and then you need to be reminded that you are still in this whole process of grieving you may not grieve the way you used to grieve but you have moments melancholy moments the moments that i'd love to hear my dad's voice again you know uh yeah you have and i think that's human that keeps us in touch because i can't help you and you can't help me paul says we are comforted by god in order that we might comfort others with what with the comfort we ourselves have received from who now the question is who are you looking for comfort from and i suggest to you you make sure it's god because we're limited i may not always have the appropriate words i'm human too and then i have to guard against because what i do of becoming insensitive to people's loss you know you believe it or not you know a lot of ministers have gone through what's called compassion fatigue you know and i think all of us experience it to some degree when you lose so much and then we're just talking about the absence of a human being but what about the loss of a job think about those people who left their homes in northern cal nice pretty homes and got home and that evening everything gone you think anybody went through this you know shock some denial how could this happen to me i don't believe it anger why did he why why why and usually when we get to these stages we start blaming everybody don't we when adam and eve blew it out and blamed who who okay y'all real quiet what what a little louder yeah and what did he say specifically a little loudest in your bible kathleen's listening a little louder yeah take your mask down for a quick second and say it loud because we have that woman you gave me well we'll leave that alone wisdom tells me to move on and so i'm going to come back to these but i want to run through this here because i want to spend some time next week walking us through how to address each of those this is the cycle that that was given it's been modified to have six steps but the first you can see is shock and denial they have them grouped together avoidance confusion fear numbness blame you see that usually when we lose someone especially a matriarch or a patriarch we're concerned about who's going to step up and step in and and and which way and what we're going to do how we're going to make it that's why that's why family planning is so important and brother pickens is here and we're going to invite him back because he did a session for us i think a couple years back we need to do that annually especially because of our seniors and our middle age group and start coming up with you know things talking about medical directives and and trust and wheels and that that's that's his area so we're going to have him back a part of living and dying is preparation you know because there's a lot involved there if not then you can have confusion you know it's you're going to have it but it's got to be managed okay and then second you see the anger frustration anxiety trend irritation shame embarrassment you know you can go down to depression you see that that's number three and then you get down here to number four dialogue and bargaining that's where you try to you know try to work some stuff out you know sometimes just bargaining with god after you get past your angry sometimes people get mad at god i think i think martha and mary and mark were angry with who they were angry with god you know and that's what god did he handled it yeah his presence didn't show up here's the problem but he didn't show up when they wanted him and he doesn't have to if god doesn't hear your prayer it doesn't mean he didn't hear it the question the larger question am i willing to accept his answer whether it's to my liking or not we got to learn that you know because we you know it it's something and this is it don't take much for us to leave the faith if we don't have any faith all we need is an event and i'm not i'm checking out on god well if you read through that book you hang out with that book long enough you can you can deal with that because it was job who said though he slayed me man he didn't kill up all my kids not him but satan is kill up all my kids and now my wife has turned against me i got these seven friends of mine we were doing well until they opened their mouth after the seventh day then by myself so uh job frustrated job chapter 14 verse 1 a man born of a woman is a few days that's coming out of frustration because i like that passage brother oscar that passes race number two to the one in genesis where that woman you gave me i'm just saying talking to my deacon over here a man brought up a woman is a few days don't look at me like that sisters it's in your bible it's a for a few days y'all scared and what i can hear you why do women know that in the midst of me and scared to sister he said nothing well at least you're not in denial praise god for the trouble that's just the reality and then a few chapters over though he saved me guess what i'm gonna do i'm gonna hope in him i'm gonna trust him anyhow and that's what that faith does even when it's painful and i pray god that none of us ever experience but job went through but over the learning curve there you had your hand up we got 10 minutes left [Music] yeah you can make a valid point and i like ceaseless this brings to the table real good stuff only to have the preacher come back and says okay let's go to the book of mark because four things jesus does he demonstrates number one power over demons men and fellow came to the church house and the ursa couldn't do nothing with him jesus showed up in the synagogue and told him to shut up and get out that's in your bible more captive when i ain't making this up then you remember the uh stealing of the storm and you remember that he was on his way down to i think jairus house to heal and in between there was a funeral and he raised the little girl up yeah so the evidence is there and here's the problem with that here's the problem with that because you make a good point i cannot chronologically tell you when it happened but we do know from the four gospels and we know this because we're looking back two thousand years at the chronology and it appears that all of them were aware that he had this power here and he makes my first point simply because you're aware of it doesn't mean you really believe it and so they had what i would call punctilior faith they believed in the moment but they hadn't had that mature faith to say what job said no matter what happens to me i'm gonna trust them so you make very good points very good points but i want to believe that they knew something let me tell you why because they made the statement had you been here and they might have made that on the backdrop you were there for them you raised her that little girl we remember that and so you've been eating at our house i love you you love me we love lazarus so surely so you can see the frustration but your powerful point very good point very good point all right so we're gonna we're gonna hang out now what we're gonna do next week is i want you to start doing some work because if we're gonna get through this god's gonna use the entire body and that's my sermon he's going to use all of us to help somebody who will be grieving loss of a loved one loss of a job loss of home lost period sometimes people have everything and lose self lose their identity sometimes they get everything they want physically but the empty where spiritually you can be a dead man walking in the absence of god you're the walking dead anybody know anything about that yeah all of us are walking dead until we meet who until we meet jesus and he gives us like spiritual zombies gotta preach write that down damon from cesar we're gonna use spiritual zombies i see a text already what was i saying we gotta go uh yeah yeah and so we're gonna we're gonna hang out with okay what would be an approach because simply to give you the seven stages you're gonna do what i did very early in my training is just talk about the seven stages but how do i help people when they're in that stage you follow me you know because what we want to do as soon as we see somebody well you know there are five stages of grief and that's not time to tell that person that you know by the way it's been modified so now they're seven don't don't don't don't do that yeah you gotta internalize who you believe that person is and meet them right there you know

Channel: Figueroa Church of Christ

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Keywords: figueroa church of christ, church of christ, gospel preaching, gospel, preaching, faith, works, satan, god, jesus, lord, word, word of god, message, answer, heaven, hell, help, assistance, calvin bowers, minister, ministry, david holmes, vincent hawkins, david g holmes, vincent e hawkins

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Length: 53min 11sec (3191 seconds)

Published: Sun Oct 03 2021