Sunday Morning 1st Service - Machael Ramsden - 01202019

[Music] over the past several days we've had a guest speaker come and share some thoughts with us about what it means to follow Jesus what it means to help other people follow Jesus Michael Ranson has done an amazing job communicating those truths to us Michael is the global director for Ravi Zacharias International Ministries where he served for 22 years Michael has brought this incredible mix of width intelligence logic life experience and I am so thrilled to be able to share the platform with him this morning as she continues to courage you and me to think about the great God that we serve and how the point others to him so would you please join me this morning in welcoming Michael Ranson [Applause] two big issues but also I speak Friday on Saturday fly down to Kuala Lumpur speak there Sunday Monday fly to Singapore meet some people there that evening Tuesday fly on to Jakarta or I'll be there for a day Wednesday fly back to Hong Kong for some evening meetings there and I fly back home so I can do my walking and my bag with University will he'll be there for a week speaking to University students and doing the series of open forums they're trying to engage and answer the questions of the students and so this comes in the middle a very very busy time but it's been wonderful to be here with you to enjoy the wonderful Californian weather turns out to be false affection but also just to get to know some of you better thank you so much for your hospitality and the kind of invitation for me and my travel system Jimmy to come will be able to spend the last few days here with you what I would like to do if I can is read to you a quote and just start from from here it's a fascinating piece of thought that servant attributed to over British academic written 200 years ago if you research the there's a particular quote what you'll find is that it seems impossible to pin down into any of his particular writings although if you read his thought it's very money consistent with the kinds of things that he used to say and so running back about 200 years ago and this professor Alexander phrasing he made the following observation and this is what he said he said a democracy is always temporary in nature it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government a democracy will continue to exist up until the time that the voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury from that moment on the majority will always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the product readily with the result that every democracy eventually collapses due to loose fiscal policy the average age of the world's greatest civilizations is about 200 years during those 200 years these nations progressed through the following sequence from bondage to spiritual faith and from spiritual faith to great courage and from great courage to Liberty and from Liberty to abundance from abundance into complacency from complacency in turn apathy from apathy interdependence and from dependence back into bondage again it's a fascinating thought and there's a huge amount of insight there whether it's correct about exactly how long would a mantras he could last or not I'll leave that up for you guys to figure out your newfound republic but as I was saying yesterday any time you wish to end this - repel any of yours and rejoin the British Empire we're more than welcome to welcome you back it would be our privilege to do so but it does raise this very important question and the reason why that chain of events moving out of bondage to faith to courage to Liberty to abundance to complacency to apathy to dependence and then back into slavery again the reason why that changed do see repeated throughout history is because every successive generation normally takes for granted what went before and so what we begin to lose sight of is the kind of price that was paid and the kind of sacrifice that had to be made in order to secure a better future not for ourselves not simply out of our own self-interest but for our kids and which is why normally as you look at most Western democracies around the world today who will all wrestling with enormous amounts of debt the simple truth is is that actually instead of trying to build a better future for our kids were simply putting them further and further into a debt which at one point don't have to have to figure out what to do with it but I'm not here today because I'm running for political office and I'm here because I've just like to look at something that runs in parallel with that because with wherever we are in that chain right now in different countries around the world there's something that's also running in parallel with it and it's this growing sense of anger and hostility that you seem to experience in almost every nation that you you go to these days I have the huge privilege of being able to travel from east to west from the northern bear down for the southern hemisphere and over the last three maybe four years I've probably ended up meeting with more than digital leaders more cabinet members more prime ministers of presence than I've ever done and you know the previous 20 years ministry all put together and in every Leaders mind and hearts whenever they asked you to come and speak it's interesting they all have all independently asked me to address exactly the same issue forward and that issues do in the nature of reconciliation is it is it actually possible to find peace is it really possible to take people who are angry dissolution they feel betrayed upset this is huge collapse of justice and everyone's making stake in competing claims all claiming that action dag main supersedes everybody else's how on earth do you actually bring a peace and a unity together when the kinds of things that we used to appeal to to pull us together culture have now become the language which we use to actually spread division so whereas in the past great orators might come along and in the political speeches appeal to the American culture say back in the 60s or 70s to bring healing and division after an election and pull people together to pull for a common goal that language of culture which was once designed to unify is now the language which we actually used to express and stake our claims and in actually become the language of division rather than unity and so we're wrestling and struggling with these things of all kinds of levels in all kinds of ways and it's in that context that really what I would love to be able to do is just share a few thoughts for you out of the book of German now book of johna may seem too strange book tune to turn to and given the kind of introduction we're in but I hope that it will become clear as to why what I'd like to do is I'm going to read you the first opening phrases of the Book of Jonah and then I'm going to skip over to chapter 3 and week the first opening phrases out of John chapter 3 and then we're just gonna have a discern brief time with reflection just about where we find ourselves as a culture and we're going to come back and actually see what Jonah actually has to say about it directly but it's a fascinating book and this is how it starts in chapter 1 first one says the word of the Lord came to Jonah son of amat I go to the great city of Nineveh and preach against it because it's wickedness has come up before me but Jonah ran away from the Lord headed to Tarshish he went down to Joppa where he found the ship bound that port and after brains they're paying the fare he went abroad aboard and sailed the charges to flee from the Lord that's the opening chapter one I mean which is the open part of chapter three the word of the Lord came he chose for a second time go to the great city of Nineveh for claim to it the message I gave Jonah obeyed the word of the Lord and went now there never was a very large city and it took three days to go through it and Jonah began by going a day's journey into the city proclaiming 44 days and Nineveh will be overthrown and the nanomites believed God and the fast was proclaimed and all of the greatest is at least now the story is very very interesting because of what is actually happening in the heart of German if you know this story well you know that after Jonah goes on to the book please from Tosh if she's told to go to Nineveh that are going up to noon but he goes down to the sea he goes in the exact opposite direction instead of blowing one direction he goes the other ones that are going up he goes down he comes down to the port and he finds a boat which is there waiting for him and then it goes into the port into the bottom of the boat and then this boat sells happened to the ocean and then there's an amazing storm and we often talk about the great storm and if you've ever see the children's version of this will normally see a boat of the coop storm and a giant fish and all this kind of stuff but actually the biggest single storm that the Book of Jonah concerns itself with isn't the see that he gets caught up in which almost kills and destroys the ship and what she's saying the biggest storm the German faces is the one that's raging in his own heart the question is why this Jonah decide to run away what is it that is driving him in that particular direction now in the Old Testament all kinds of people run away from God in the New Testament all kinds of people run away first a lot of people are running away from God up until this very day but there is something unusual about Jonah's rebellion against God the reason Jonah runs away from God isn't because he thinks he's done something wrong in the book of Genesis adamandeva with God they do something wrong they run away and hide the reason why they hide is they feel shame we've done something wrong we now need to hide ourselves and God's presence but the reason German runs away from God isn't because he knows he's done something wrong the reason Jonah runs runs away from God is he utterly believes that God has done something wrong Jonah believes that God has seriously faith that God has made some kind of tragic serious error and the result is he feels incredibly angry angry with God he is running away from God to try to frustrate God's plans he doesn't want God to do what he thinks God is going to do and interestingly if you keep reading to chapter 3 to come into the beginning of chapter 4 which we were talking about last night if you were there after everybody repents and turns to God you then have in German for us for chapter 4 verse 1 the phrase but to Jonah this seemed very wrong it seemed very wrong to German that the people of Nineveh turned to the God whom he worshipped now just think about that imagine if I were to come and speak in the city of ready you know as a Christian evangelist and people put became Christians and as a result of becoming Christians I was angry with God and I said to God that's why I didn't want to come here in the first place which he didn't but Jonah says that's why I ran away I knew you were gonna do this I knew I was going to go and seek in Nineveh and they were going to put their faith in you and trust in you that's remarkable just think about imagine a pastor of a church in this city who got angry because people came true Christians have joined us Church it's one of the most bizarre things isn't it it's utterly bizarre what on earth is going on in Jonah's half of mind why is he so and see surely he wants to see and Jonah is a prophet he's not just a you know a member of Israel like a regular citizen he's a leader a religious leader people are turning to his God and worshiping his God and he's angry with his God that people are turning to him there's something really profound going on in this book what is it now when we analyze cultures normally and we can compare them and contrast them what we tend to do is classically we make a distinction between different types of culture but this kind of anger the journal experiences is becoming increasingly increasingly common I can't speak much to the North American context in detail I'm not here frequently enough but I can remember I said that the first starting thinking about some of these questions about four years ago when I was reading a newspaper article in England and it told the story of a university student and she was being critiqued this student because someone had attacked her in the national press and she was being criticized for failing to respond to that attack and as she was being critiqued in the debating chamber she raised her hand because she wanted to make a point of order and the point of order was that she had reached out to the person who'd attacked her at the national press but she hadn't done it publicly she hadn't published a letter against the person to publish against her she's been to private lesson and after she would meet with the person who publicly attacked her however because she raised her hand in the debating chamber all Proceedings of the chamber was stopped she was asked to leave the chamber and then the debating chamber held an emergency motion in which they debated whether she had violated the Chamber's safe space policy and to be excluded for on the basis of hate sleep now the reason why they did that is that they had passed a motion a few months earlier banning all forms of hand gesture which denoted disagreement now I can think of seven hand gestures which is no disagreement I I could show them to you but that would be the last time I was invited here but that's not what she did what she does raised her hand but now they have a problem by raising her hand it's clear she disagrees with someone by disagreeing with something she's now made this base unsafe and by making the space unsafe now surely she must be guilty of some form of hatred and if she feels yourself from hatred she did not allowed not only not to speak she shouldn't even allowed to be there in the first place I remember reading this this story sort of shaking my head in my hands thinking this is what happens when you give education away for free in some countries it's incredible a little while after that there was another series of events in England which really grabbed my attention one of England's most well-known and sort of famous feminists atheist academics made some public remarks about transgenderism I'm not gonna repeat what she said it was it was offensive there's no question about it you use a lots of short four-letter words which as a Christian I'm not allowed to use although if I did because you're real Christians you'll have to forgive me but she basically said as a feminist this is what I think about there's a particular issue and as a result of this the next University she was about to give a public lecture at the University of Cardiff held a motion and the student body there decided that they should no platform they should not allow her to speak at their University cuz she was again a guilty pate speak now at this point a well-known figure in England - most of you will never have heard of a man named Peter Tatchell who was being Britain's leading gay rights activist he spoke up in defense of German grip and he said you can't ban professor career she's world-famous she's known around the world she's an incredibly well respected academic you should allow her to speak go along and then ask the difficult questions afterwards disagree with them but never stop us from speaking in the first place and because Peter Tatchell said this in the public to publicly televised news conference that I watched on the BBC the NUS had a debate about him and decided they should no platform him for being amongst other things homophobic which begs the question how does Britain's leading gay rights activists suddenly get labeled as being against gay people at this point a guy who you may have heard of by the name of Professor Richard Dawkins he had a press conference in which he said using lots of four-letter words that Germaine Greer also used he basically said something along the lines of a group of students whose we broke up Peter Tatchell wife and come to the conclusion that he's homophobic are so stupid they should not have been allowed to study in university in the first place at which point the National Union of Students in the United Kingdom debated a motion to have Richard Dawkins no platform from speaking diversities for being guilty a speech at that point a guy caught is a Brian Cox who's properly written sort of leading popular atheist right now he's a physicist he used to be in a rock band he looks like a rock star he talks like a rock star and he's a professor in science he's he's an incredible communicator he held a press conference and when she said you can't ban Professor Richard Dawkins was beating the British universities he is sort of like you know again pretty well known as a scientist what on earth is going on what on earth is suddenly happening the reason why I'm wanting to start with this illustration with you is for very simple reason as I unpack a little bit of what I want to share with you this morning we very often think that for especially for Christians that people are directed against us but what I'm about to describe to it affects everyone affects every single person in this room doesn't matter what we believe where you're from what you think or what you want to say because one if you're an atheist and agnostic a Christian or worship anything else or nothing at all or about to talk about it right now is affecting everybody in this world right now and it's manifesting itself in a form of grievance which is seen all of a sudden the collapse of queen with a speech freedom of thought freedom to conscience it is possibly one of the greatest single cultural revolutions that we've seen in this world of about 300 3 to 400 years and it seems to be almost the reason why it's all got so messy is that historically when we looked at cultures we would talk about honor cultures and we would contrast them with dignity cultures honor based cultures were cultures in which if you were attacked the key thing was how do you defend your honor and he tried to keep people with honor but that's the key thing to try to do and if you're familiar with the academic studies in the field you'll know that we distinguish between different types of honor based culture and we will contrast those with dignity based cultures in an honor based culture if you want to have respect and esteem you have to conduct yourself with honor but in the dignity based culture you don't have to conduct yourself publicly in a certain way does that make sense to get nasty your argument is you know what you should respect me because of who I am I have basic dignity you shouldn't treat me and respect me because of that I don't need to burn it on you I haven't and those cultures are citing fewer but they existed as well and we would contrast the two in the United States you classically mean a mixture of both because of the judeo-christian influence on American culture you've normally classically seen both dignity and AMA however we're now increasingly drifting into what sociologists according and I really don't like the name victim culture in a victim culture when your attack do you don't think in terms of how do I conduct myself with honor how I conduct myself with dignity in the victim culture the paradigm completely shifts and the paradigm becomes this the paradigm is everything I do and say is motivated by love but anything which is why Peter Tatchell then suddenly be described as being homophobic because the student who was tabled emotion to have a no form at the university was themselves gay and so the logic went from the student body like this we've timetabled emotion to no platform Peter Tatchell he's disagreed with us everything we're doing is cuz we care for the students everything he does most because he hates us but we gave so therefore he must become a folk there he must be guilty of this crime and all of a sudden Britain's leading gay rights activist is now certainly been disparage of the national press with that accusation it's incredible it's one of the most bizarre changes but it's it's now everywhere we see it everywhere all of us are involved in a form of competitive victimhood we all want to have a historical or present grievance which means that we demand that we get treated in a certain way and once you buy into that narrative all forms of disagreement you encounter must be you you will always understand as a chronic failure of justice and also as an attack against yourself and life is not very complicated you can even see this in our movies if you saw the original Superman movie in the 1980s with Christopher Reeves and you asked yourself what kind of person was he the answer was well he was perfect I mean pop from kryptonite having a weakness morally perfect rationally perfect physically perfect that's why I like to be he was so much like me but I don't if any of you have seen the 1987 movie 19 sorry 2017 will be Man of Steel the Superman remake for the Millennial Generation and the idea that movie starts very differently Superman is now on a boat lost in a fog he feels cosmically lonely cosmically abandoned his planet misunderstood misrepresented with the weight of expectations he can't possibly meet and he doesn't answer the question Who am I and people can't accept as identity anyway the modern-day Superman to be a hero has to have a victim narrative that's why every Marvel superhero every single one all have victim narratives they've all been used and abused herb betray in order to stasis today you must have a grievance does that make sense you must have beat them that's what gives you your status even arguably the most boring superhero ever invented Captain America even begin to have a sequel in today's culture he has to have have a victim narrative - so how does the sequel to Captain America start the latest one well he has to be betrayed by his countrymen trade by his friends cut off lost lost his love lost the capacity for relationship hurt he needs a victim narrative of grievance historical long series of grievances for us to look up to Anna's demon and once this buys into the heart it begins to poison everything and this is actually Jonah's problem gentleman is living at a time when his nation has been oppressed by the Syrian that Assyrian Empire the Assyrian Empire but most evil empires ever existed on the face of the planet some ancient historians would say this evil must evil empire this ever existed full stop if you want to have some idea what the Assyrian Empire would be like imagine if we went to dailies world imagine if is had the strength of the American Navy Army and Air Force and then ask yourself what kind of world will we be in I gave this illustration in the state a guy came up to me said we'll be fine because we didn't include the seals in that so everything will be okay all the Marines I think he said include the Rings we'll be fine so Joan was a bit at a time of enormous historical injustice he's not imagining the injustice the injustice is real he's experiencing and he's living it and gold now comes to talentino it speaks to people who were oppressing them the people who he hates the most the people that he would give anything to see wiped off the face of the planet and God comes to Jonah and says Jonah you know the city of Nineveh it's great evil has come up before me and I want you to go and tell them how bad they now want is just take a moment for a second I would like you to think if the person you like the least the person who makes your life of misery the person in which if something horrible were to happen to them although in public you might say isn't it terrible as soon as you went into the restroom and closed the door a big smile would come on your face so I want you to imagine that person and then I wanted to imagine that God himself appears before you and says hey you know that person you can't stand I can't stand them either their life stinks so much the stench of how bad they are has risen from earth all the way to heaven and I am now defining commissioning you on my path to go and tell them that now come on be honest with me if God endorsed your moral assessment of the person who you think is the worst face of the planet and then divinely don't tell them how terribly well how would you expect to feel hey there's one down the front row was not in this head thinking that would be a good feeling and the rest of you were trying to lie to yourself and pretending to be a better person than you really are most of us would love to have that divine endorsement for God Himself to agree with our moral assessment of the person that we think is the scum of the earth so what's wrong with Jimmy then why is it that when God comes to German and says German the moral stench and evil of Nineveh has become so huge it's risen like smoke to heaven it's filled my nostrils and I'm sending you to go and tell them and they're going to face my judgment why does Jo not run away why is Jonah going in the wrong direction now interesting Jonah does go in the wrong direction he gets caught up in a huge storm he gets vomited up onto the beach by a giant fish and after that rather traumatic experience the second time and it goes with its enormous great city and he tells them you've got 40 days and then comes God's judgments literally in 40 days God is going to come and overturn you now that word over Turnus is really quite interesting if someone said hey this time uncle Ramzan came to our church and spoke in it and he overturned everything that could mean one of two things does that make sense on the face of it what it implies is I came here and cause for mayhem tell me since I caused chaos everything was good fine and then I came and messed it all up and actually that's what Germans happened this rather hoping will happen here he hope we see ghosts in any of them and this completely messes everything up it could mean to destroy that's why you could use that word for judgment so Jonah goes and he speaks a message which he hopes will lead to his enemy's destruction but the people who hear it they hear something slightly different because in chapter 3 the people who hear that same message they see a ray of hope if you take something which is the wrong way round and you overturn it it's now the right way and you see this exact same phraseology used elsewhere in the Bible in Deuteronomy 23 verse 5 where God comes to his people and he says because I am your God and because I love you I am going to overturn this curse into a blessing you see what he's saying saying right now things are terrible and this is like a curse to you but because I love you and because I care of you I'm gonna overturn I'm gonna now take that which is negative and I'm spinning around it becomes positive and that is what the people of Nineveh here in the message the people of Nineveh here in the message and and they all turn to God and God forgives them but actually the Book of Jonah isn't really about Ninevites to some extent even God isn't the main character than German he's the one who print oh but the main question The Book of Jonah is not his God willing to forgive people who done terrible things the main question in the Book of Jonah is Joan willing to forgive people who've done terrible things once you buy into the victimhood narrative revenge is justified at every level as a matter of fact there was a recent psychological survey done in the United Kingdom which actually said that because we've now brought it to the signatory to such an extent most people are anxious to be wronged because then it justifies the hatred they could then express to other people which is why someone has said the only best feeling right now that being right is feeling wronged because when I've been wronged now I'm justified to fully lip read and that is why gentlemen fully let's rip against God because Jonah if you read into chapter 4 and you were here last night you would have heard Jonah puts his finger up into the face of God and he says you're wrong God asks the question Jonah is it right for you to be angry and he says I am it is right I am right you were wrong Jonah so and Jonah's forgotten something forgotten something very basic that the same God who was extended mercy and forgiveness and the hope of a new start and that same God is also extended to the German that same grace that same mercy that same hope for a new style the question is will you know we live in a world which isn't just simply spiraling out of control we're doubling down on my anger and hatred at every offense and at everything we decided the best thing to do is simply get more angry and hit back and we're locked into a spiraling vortex of grievance as a matter of fact one social commentator said it is a global politics right now it's locked into a vortex of grievance and I expect that the political tainted animosity in our column simply get worse and once everything's been ratcheted up nothing is going down of course America may be an exception to this global trade but I have a feeling I spent more time here that wouldn't be the case Jonah lived at the same time as Amos who's there and as I was also sort of contemporary now mr. Madrid now that you're in a church conference imagine if you could go to a church conference which the speaker Isaiah and so Jonah knows what angels sent Amos has prophesied that God will use the Assyrians to punish Israel for their rebellion against God so German has one other struggle - if God forgives the Assyrian Empire and they turn to him he won't destroy them and if he doesn't destroy them then he will use them to punish Israel for their refusal to repent however if the Assyrians do not repent of their sin then they will be will be destroyed by God and then God can use them to punish his relatives they're not around anymore can you understand why he's so quick to run but in other keys for clocking something again it is possible for the course but nation to be changed as much as a human heart and you can put it in a totally different direction as a matter of fact in a most chapter 5:18 phrase the most poetical way of describing it would be this prophet Amos says you have turned justice into the bitterness and so all of your righteous acts tastes like poison fruit that's an incredibly powerful image you've turned your quest for justice into bitterness and as a result all the righteous things the good things you want to do it tastes like poison in the mouth and that's where we are but God is calling to us something very different he is asking us for forgiveness Jesus Christ taught that we are to forgive our enemies that we are to love those who come against us and the reason is very simple that whether you were enemies of God he loved us there when we had no interest in God God came to us he sought us out he came to the servant of Jesus Christ and he laid down his life for us and he offers us forgiveness which is why Jesus Christ taught his disciples you must pray like this father forgive us in the same way that we forgive everybody else in other words because we have in the same way those people around us forgiveness is the most powerful way to break in animosity and hatred level to see a nun culture and it seems too big a price to pay it is too difficult a thing to do until we remember the fact that Jesus Christ loved us came into this world and he forgave the time is moving on and so what I would like to do if I can it's just every year about Christmastime the Queen in the United Kingdom addresses the nation it's the only time when she gives the national address it lasts about seven minutes recently she said something rather fascinating in her address to the nation she talked about the growing animosity and hatred that we see and then she said this she says God sent into this world someone very special not a general or a political leader or a philosopher as important as those are she said he sent him to this world a savior with the power to forgive forgiveness lies at the heart of the Christian faith she said and everyone who turns to him could find that forgiveness and peace with him found that peace with him is able to extend it to other people and then she said my prayer is that this Christmas everyone in this country may experience that forgiveness that comes from God through Jesus Christ our Lord and may find a way to extend that forgiveness destroying himself his father they broke into her house they raped her beat her put a gun in her mouth and pulled the trigger her husband came back 24 hours to find unconscious on the floor for the next three months she was in a coma well there are a few privileges to being an archbishop in the Church of England which is such that because of the persecution they can suffered at the hands of Baca around the Queen offered them asylum and said because of the huge persecution new face will give you a sign up back in the UK when Gloria regained consciousness lying in a bed her husband wept when she was different to Rogers they weren't sure if he'll ever come back and then explain to her that the Queen herself a person her first response was but if we leave who will love the people here we have to stay to love the people who are here so I'll just like to wrap up our time me with a very brief prayer whether you think of yourself as a Christian Christian and if you're struggling to forgive the hatred directed against you chances are you've either forgotten the depth of the forgiveness that God has gone after I finished one of the pastor's is going to come up here at the front and I think there'll be people here at the front to come and talk and pray with you so take advantage of that but maybe I could wrap up our time together with the prayer together now father we come before you this morning father there's so much genuine injustice in this world father at times you feel confused by it but maybe not respond to anger with anger hatred with hatred but help us respond instead father with love and light of the only things that can dispel for the darkness of anger that comes against us Lord we want to thank you that even though you've done nothing wrong when all of our anger was directed against to you you intercede on our behalf and you pray or find that peace with you and what made the peace that you give us as a gift you teach us what it is to extend out to other people would you make us agents for change but in this community in the city in this state in this country father that we may seek peace right and your justice is merciful roll down like mighty Lewis [Applause] thank you so much for sharing such an important message with us message of hope the message of love the message of forgiveness and I don't want that to be lost on anyone who's here today you might have come because there was a guest speaker you have heard of the ministry he's involved in I don't know what your motivation for being here was but I know what God's hope for you is if you're here this morning and you have never responded to the grace and forgiveness of God through the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ don't leave out of here without talking to someone about that we will have some people here at the front some of our elders some of our deacons and Stephen ministers we would love to share with you more incredible incredible grace incredible forgiveness that's available to you they want to thank you so much for being here as we go from here I hope a my prayer for you is that you go you're a blessing and that you're blessed as you continue to follow our great God say thanks for being here today we all are dismissed you

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Published: Sun Jan 20 2019