Sue Morter - Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview

>>Rick Archer: Welcome to Buddha at the Gas  Pump. My name is Rick Archer. Buddha at the   Gas Pump is an ongoing series of interviews  conversations with spiritually awakening people.   We've done well over 500 of them now. And if  this is new to you, and you'd like to check   out previous ones, just go to batgap.com B-a-t  g-a-p and look under the past interviews menu.   This program is made possible through the  support of appreciative listeners and viewers.   So, if you appreciate it would like to  help support it, there's a Pay Pal button   on every page of the website. My guest  today is Dr. Sue Mortar. Hi, Sue.  >>Sue Morter: Hello there. Nice to see you. >>Rick Archer: Nice to see you. I've been   reading your book this week. There it is  'The energy codes' and enjoying it a lot. So,   we'll be discussing that let me just read some  of your bio I might skim through some of it and   because you're going to tell us all this stuff  anyway. But Sue is a master of bio energetic   theory and quantum field visionary. I'm  gonna have her define those terms in a bit.   She utilizes the embodiment of high frequency  energy patterns to activate full human potential   through seminars, retreats, and presentations.  She illuminates the relationship of quantum   science and energy medicine, elevating  human consciousness into life mastery.   Excuse me. Dr. Sue is the USA Today bestselling  number one bestselling LA Times and number one   Amazon bestselling author of 'The Energy  Codes', the book that I just held up,   'The seven-step system to awaken your spirit  heal your body and live your best life'.   Through the energy codes. Dr. Sue provides  techniques to activate untapped energy and   neurocircuitry in the body and power human  potential and become one's true essential self.   Dr. Sue is the founder and creator of the  globally taught coursework, 'The energy codes',   a multi-level body of work on  personal and spiritual development.   She also created body awake, R-Y-T. I don't know  what that means. 200 certified yoga program. What   does the RYT stand for? >>Sue Morter: It's a   registered yoga teacher registered. >>Rick Archer: Oh, ok that's like a PhD or M okay.   Good. And it's co-creator of the  bioenergetic synchronization technique.   She has served on professional licensing  boards providing guidance to health care   practitioners on integrative approaches to  healthcare leadership. She is also an adjunct   faculty at two medical schools at Michigan State  University and AAU school classified as one of the   top 100 universities in the world. She is the host  of Gaia TVs healing matrix and cohost of your Year   of Miracles lifestyle training; she was recently  recognized for her outstanding achievements as   an honored member of the transformational  leadership council. Okay, oh, there's more.   I'm reading at all after all, she's in  addition to that she's She founded the   mortar Health Center Health Center in 1987. And  as founder and visionary of the mortar Institute   for bioenergetics, an organization committed to  teaching individuals self-healing techniques,   with an inner wisdom-based approach to life based  on quantum science and higher consciousness,   with three distinct schools representing the  unification of mind body and spirit, School of   energy medicine School of bodyweight yoga and  school for higher consciousness and personal   development. She provides tools and avenues  to empower the global community to discover   and embody a joyful inspired life live from true  soulful self. Right, I was going to skim that,   but I kind of got into it and decided to read  the whole thing. And one thing, you know,   as I'll tell you several impressions, I  got from reading your book, first of all,   you had some very profound experiences starting  at a young age, which we'll be talking about, and,   you know, on the basis of that you have evolved  and designed a whole system which can help others   experience when you've experienced are in their  own way. And I really liked that because a lot of   times people talk from their level of experience  and people listen from their level of experience,   and never the twain shall meet, you know,  there's just not a really good connection. And,   you know, some people sort of put down  techniques and practices and so on. I've   always been kind of a technique guy myself and  it has served me well. And I think most people   do need some kind of practice. And I'm kind  of impressed by the way, you've evolved   a whole system of practices based on ancient  wisdom, but also kind of interpreted for modern   society in modern times. And judging from what  I've been reading, it's been very influential and   transformational for people. So that's great.  There's actually a difference between Indian   terminology between a rishi and a Maharishi,  I'm not suggesting that you're a Maharishi but,   but a Rishi is somebody who cognizes the truth.  And a Maharishi is somebody who cognizes it and   can impart it to others in a practical way that  will enable them to realize it for themselves.   So, I think you do that in  a in a very effective way.  >>Sue Morter: Thank you, Rick.  It is definitely an inborn   disposition. As long as I can remember, I was  drawn to share whatever it was that I was knowing,   even prior to these illuminating experiences that  began as I started meditating, I always found   myself in the role of a of a teaching assistant  or a teacher or in some fashion all my life. So,   it is definitely my purpose on the planet. >>Rick Archer: Yeah, some of us are just   wired to do that. >>Sue Morter: Yeah.  >>Rick Archer: And actually, you know, I bet  your most times when you do an interview,   people start you out with that profound experience  you had when you were in a big group meditation,   and you hovered above the earth and all  that, we'll get to that. But actually,   you started having things much earlier.  For instance, in your book you talk about   when you were six years old, you were playing  in a creek bed, and you had some profound   experience. Could you elaborate on that one? >>Sue Morter: Yes, I would I we had a creek   right across the street from our house  in a pasture where my father had cattle,   and just had a few cows. And I would always go  over there and just kind of hang out. And so, I   was reaching forward in the base of the creek bed  climbing down in there. And this golden shimmering   light was glistening off the surface of the water  as the sun reflects. And as I reached forward, so   I was kind of messing with these little tadpoles  that were that were just hatching and burning. And   some of them were, you know, swimming about.  And I was just fascinated with that process.   In a state of really wonder and kind of awe  struck, and I, I mentioned that because I now   think in retrospect, that that those vibrational  frequencies of wonder and awe are a significant   piece, they're a significant ingredient in  our ability to pierce through veils and live   in a multi-dimensional realm. So, this is  what happened for me, then, at the time,   I didn't have any context for it. But I remember  reaching my hand forward with this little   stick to just kind of toss around the, the leaves  and such and, and this glowing off the surface of   my hand was more pronounced than the shimmering  of the water underneath it. And I could see that   when I would move this entire energy field, this  radiance would move along with my movements. And   if I started to think about, I wonder if I move my  hand that way, and that's all the further I got,   in my mind, the field would kind of go that way.  And nearly carry my hand with it. It wasn't that,   you know, when I when I was watching it, it  wasn't that I was moving. And then this energy   field would come after, it was almost  this intentional field that was   causing or directing the physical  action. Now, I wasn't a scientist,   I certainly wasn't trained at the time, but I was  very aware of what was happening there. And then   it had my attention. And I then started noticing  that I could see energy fields around people and   pets, and you know, anything that was even the  animals then there, I grew up on a farm and   so the cows would have this, the horses would  have this energy field around them that I was   constantly marveling over. So, >>Rick Archer: Yeah. And, and you thought   at the time that everybody saw that, you know,  and you eventually discovered that they didn't  >>Sue Morter: Yes, it I would talk about it. You  know, what's that yellow thing that follows dad   around when he's talking and what's, what's  that orange thing coming off the cows and,   you know, my parents, their eyes are getting  big and they'd kind of look at each other and   So I little by little piece together,  especially when I went to school,   that people weren't talking about these kinds of  things. And I consciously remember, or I remember   consciously shutting it down, just thinking, I'm  making these people uncomfortable, and that's   making me uncomfortable. And so, I'm not going to  do this thing. I'm not I'm just, I guess that's   not what we do. So, the way we learned about  manners and the, you know, a decorum or a way of   functioning in society, it was, it had that kind  of feeling to it, I just kind of corralled it.   And to the point that I actually then later,  wasn't able to retrieve it, as maybe 10,   or 15 years later, I wanted to get that back. And  I never could, until many years later, when I had   these meditation experiences that started to  light things up, and suddenly that that returned,   but in those interim years, I pretty much  wondered if I'd been imagining it or making   it up. And because I couldn't get it back. And  it was like, gosh, I was young, you know, maybe,   maybe that wasn't really real. And then, you know,  lo and behold it, it reinstated, restored itself.   Many years later, probably 20. >>Rick Archer: I've interviewed quite a few people   who, you know, the reason I'm interviewing them  is that they've now had some kind of spiritual,   blossoming and, but who say that they had the  kind of stuff you were talking about when they   were about that age, you know, six, five,  and sometimes experiencing, like, you know,   auras or angels, or, or feeling like they were  in unity consciousness or something. And then,   as they got a little older, it started to slip  away, whether they wanted it to or not, and then   they went through their crazy teenage years,  and so on. And then often, the usual pattern   is toward the end of their teens or early 20s,  they begin to want to rediscover that, you know,   and find out what that was, and, and then that  gets them going. And eventually it unfolds. But my   theory is that I'm, like, Let's hear yours, too,  is, is that, you know, we come into this life at   different levels of consciousness, or different  levels of evolution. And it's not surprising   that people who had some kind of profound  spiritual awakening little bit later in life,   were fairly highly evolved as children. And,  you know, it just took a little while to mature.  >>Sue Morter: Definitely, I definitely know that  I, I picked up where I left off, I came in very   lucid. I didn't, I couldn't reconcile how what I  was knowing even though I wasn't articulating it,   there was a knowing, and when I didn't meet  with that same realm, reality in front of me,   the people, the places, the circumstances  didn't match vibrationally what I, what I really   perceived as real, I began to question, you know,  something's awry here. Something's discordant.   And I, as I now feel the soul is going to do for  purposes of its own refinement, and polishing, I,   I questioned myself, rather than then grounding  in that and revealing it outwardly into,   into the world. Now, we have, we have knowings,  and stories of, of those that have been able to   sustain that, and come out teaching at 11 and  12, and 14 years old, who have made tremendous   inroads in our spiritual history. However, I, you  know, I receded inward and, and, and just kind of   sheltered that and developed a way  of being in the outer world that was   very hesitant and questioning of the self and  translated that into shyness or intimidation, and,   and, and such. And so, what I know is that in  the years since then, the people that I've been   working with that have felt, you know, suppressed,  or have felt hesitant in life, or had been one of   the quiet ones in the corner, most of their life,  they actually, when we start tapping that and,   and inquiring about this deeper knowing  they can access it pretty readily. And   once given permission to, you know, connect  the dots, connect some circuitry on that and   start presenting re-presenting it to the surface  of their lives. They start finding that they have,   you know, quite a tremendous transformation in in  a relatively short period of time because it was,   it was sitting there just waiting to be tapped and  that tapping can't happen until it can and as it   does, we start recognizing, just recognizing this,  this True Self that is our birthright. So, yes,   I do you mentioned earlier about different levels  of consciousness and different levels of operation   for different people. And I do feel that, that  some of us are not here, doing that, at this time,   that we're here, getting our feet wet, and really  grounding ourselves in the physical. And this is   the person that, in my experience, doesn't really  want to have anything to do with a conversation   about spirituality and, and this deep inquiry,  they're really more, you know, rubber meets the   road, give me something tangible and physical to,  to work with. And I feel that they are also on   the same path, they're just focusing in a very  anchoring grounding, you know, phase of it,   and, and are doing their spiritual practice  in their own way, it just looks different   than it does, you know, to, to someone who is, is  operating with it on a conscious cognitive level.  >>Rick Archer: Sure, St. Teresa of Avila said, It  appears that God Himself is on the journey . So,   I would say that everything from amoebas to God  is on the journey. Journey. Yes. And obviously,   you know, all beings are just at different  stages of it. But there's this evolutionary   current that we more or less flow along with.  And at one point a few minutes ago, you said,   you came in where you left off where you started  in where we left off, which implies reincarnation,   which I think you and I both are totally  comfortable with. But the idea there is that,   you know, whatever level of consciousness we  achieve in a particular lifetime, and then this   vehicle no longer becomes sustainable. We pick  up a new vehicle, and we pretty much pick it up,   you know, continue from where we left off. >>Sue Morter: Yes, yes. And that, that so   then people will ask, often, does that  mean that you believe in past lives? And,   and I kind of play with that  and say, well, actually, no.   And then it's confusing, because we're talking  about, you know, multiple experiences, etc. And,   and I say that I really feel that there's one  life, that we're constantly living in that,  >>Rick Archer: Well, that's  a good way of putting it.  >>Sue Morter: This expression physical  expression, and then we move out of it,   and then then and then add it in, and now,  but, but the life itself never stops. And so,   it's comforting for someone to kind of recognize,  okay, so I'm actually not going to die.   And, you know, a wonderful thing to, to proceed. >>Rick Archer: That's a nice way of explaining it,   you know, because, obviously seeing past lives  makes it sound like life somehow stopped, and then   started again. And what you're saying is that life  is a continuum, but it just kind of goes in and   out of different expressions or different forms. >>Sue Morter: Yes, so I would be alive here,   and then I would be alive elsewhere, and then  I would be alive here. And then I would guess,   elsewhere. And I always feel this like, sigh  of relief in the room, when, when we start   speaking about it that way, it's like something  connects in the, in the consciousness and the   subconsciousness, of the, of the group of people.  And, and it has, it has, it has tied together many   life experiences that I've had, and memories that  I have of having been here, you know, before. So  >>Rick Archer: Yeah. What age in this life, or  this expression, or whatever we want to call it?   Did you kind of decide to I mean; did  you consciously start seeking again?   Like in your 20s, or something? >>Sue Morter: Yes, there,   there was my parents were both were very  interesting people. My father was a pioneer   in energy medicine, he was very interested in how  do people heal, when they heal? Why don't they,   when they don't, it was, it was all you know,  nature based and working with the nervous system,   and the electromagnetism of the body and so forth.  And, and my father, my mother, was very into   astrology and, and spiritual psychology, and just  very curious about all of that. So, I grew up   inside of those kinds of conversations and  influences, even when I was too young to   understand it, the energetic was there,  you know, the backdrop was there. And so,   I actually was very curious, in around 10  and 11, and 12 and 13, I can, I can remember,   looking in between the lines and wondering what it  was all about, and watching the crowd, in school   do what they did, and, and being, you know, shy  and kind of hiding, I observed a lot. So, I could   see patterns and trends and tendencies, and I was,  I was, it was, you know, was a curiosity that I   now consider to be the beginnings of me pursuing  this path on a on a more conscious level.   And so, I was drawn to books that would, that  would describe it, but not so much a spiritual   tradition. It was more of, of the, the, the  science of it and the possibility of, you know,   thought and beliefs and creation of reality is  in those terms, and so it was later when, when   it became part of more of a spiritual tradition  and the way I entered into meditation, which   isn't the way that everyone does some people, you  know, just go into, to working with mindfulness   and meditation from that perspective, and some  people go into to that world as a devotee, and,   and working with teachers and the passing down  of traditions and such, and, and that happened   to be the way that it literally unfolded in, in  my life. And I do feel that that played a role   in my ability to open to the things that I did  eventually open to, and continue to open to,   because of this, this heart based devotional  piece, I feel that the energetic of the devotion   itself, and the role of honoring and reverie and  reverence and sacredness, those frequencies in my,   my being my awareness, and my heart connected  to my attention and, and the consistency,   and the willingness to do whatever it took to do,  right by the teaching or the teacher, that that   piece played a role for me, that caused the heart  to be infused into the efforts, if you will,   for lack of a better word, in this moment,  of putting intention on the meditative piece   that had I just tried to sit and meditate,  which I actually had tried a few times, prior.   Nothing, nothing would nothing happened  for me. And, and yet, when I when I   was kind of swept into this world where there  were teachers and ceremony and sacred ritual kind   of thing that was beautiful, and, and enhancing  this heart-based world, something very different   happened very quickly, almost instantaneously.  For me, when the heart and the mind seemed to   be so infused together, it gave a different  quality, to stilling my mind and allowing for   something to be accessible, that that  I had not been able to tap before.  >>Rick Archer: That's great. Do you  mind saying what this group was that?  >>Sue Morter: There was, I really can't because  as I got into it further, I found that that some   there was there was a lack of integrity in some  things that were happening. And I unfortunately,   in the, in the course of the original years that  I started teaching, I never shared the names,   but I shared some of the stories, because it  was paramount to me that integrity be part   of everything that was happening, when the in  the groups that started gathering around me,   and it became just like, you know, we can do this,  but it has to be like this, and this and this   in order for me to be comfortable bringing this  realm forward for people. And so, some of the   stories of points of reference or relativity, by  example, of going and collecting monies to build   to build kitchens in India, that I later would  find that the monies weren't being used for that   at all. But you know, we're personal real  estate purchases and things like that, that   that was just not okay, but because I had already  told the stories, I really didn't feel good,   because there was also so much good that happened  in my life, that I never want to do harm to the   individual and the individuals that were running  this organization, because it was such a gift in   my life. But there were also these pieces  that were just not in alignment. And so,   I just have always protected it at the same  time, you know, being real about, about what   is what is significant and important to me. >>Rick Archer: That's great, I could almost say   the very same words about what I went through, you  know, tremendous benefit and tremendous gratitude   for all that. But then again, some things out of  integrity. And in fact, I think that experience   was part of what inspired me to sort of get on  this integrity bandwagon a little bit a few years   ago with a few friends we formed something which  initially called the Association for professional   spiritual teachers, but then changed the name to  the Association for spiritual integrity. And we   have an organization a lot of people have joined  it. And because there is so much lack of integrity   in the spiritual world, and it's unfortunate  because I think as you would agree that You know,   spirituality in its pure form, has a tremendous  gift to offer the world and is perhaps the most   critical and fundamental leverage or influence of  world events, but it gets sabotaged or hamstrung,   when representatives of it are out of integrity.  And then people who have been studying with   them get totally disillusioned, sometimes  thrown off the path for who knows how long.   And so it really needs to sort of, I mean, no  one's in a position to police the whole thing but,   but, you know, the appreciation for integrity,  I think the more it can be enlivened, and   the collective consciousness of spiritual  seekers and, and the more they can,   you know, hold their own teachers feet to the  fire, if the teacher is going off the beam,   the more healthy the whole thing will be and more  effective, it'll be in producing social change.  >>Sue Morter: Yes, there's such a purity that is  so powerful. And all one has to do is walk that   and, and it unfolds magnificently, automatically,  because the power of the universe is behind it.   And we're not forcing it or distorting  it by having some better idea than how,   you know, reality would just have things be, and  so. So it is, it's always been a wonder to me   how, how it is, there's so much power put into  the energetics that are discordant and kind of   kind of in a distortion of sorts, and there's so  much Initial Power that appears, but ultimately,   it will never be sustainable. And so, I always  marvel about, about that. And I've made it a   personal kind of disposition, just kind of  quietly along the way. Just curious about how far   would just integrity take me, you know, how,  how far would it go? If I, if I, you know,   how many people could I reach how many, how many  people could be touched how many lives could be   enhanced if, if all I ever did was just walk  the authentic path. And when people would come   forward and say, you need to do this, everybody's  doing this in order to build your business or this   is happening. And if I didn't feel it, I was like,  you know, thank you No. And a few times, I truly   trusted some of the people and then I would try  it, and it just, you know, it was It wasn't ever   out of integrity. But it wasn't, it wasn't a  heartfelt thing for me, it was just more of an   intellectual analytical process. And it would  never work for me. And I quickly learned,   you know, my path is just to just walk, just walk  this and see, see what unfolds, see what happens   and see where your life takes you. And I knew  that this awakening that was, you know, starting   20 years ago with me, and these things were just  unfolding literally visually and experientially   that that there was a reason, and I didn't know  exactly in, you know, on this conscious level   exactly what I was supposed to do with it.  But I knew that, that it, it was significant   enough that my life needed to be about that.  And, and so that's what it has. That's how it   has unfolded. And it has us speaking here today. >>Rick Archer: That's great. Yeah, there's a nice   example of that in your book. I liked what you  said just now and also a few minutes ago about   the head and the heart both being involved.  And for you that that really worked. And   you know if I've said this before on the show, but  I don't like to use the word Enlightenment because   it has this static superlative connotation.  But if, if I were to use it, I would want to   refer to people who are very holistically  developed, you know, intellect, heart, senses,   you know, the whole, all different facets of  our makeup. And very often you see lopsided   development, Ken Wilber talks about lines of  development that can get very out of sync with   one another. But I really think it's essential for  our own wellbeing and the safety of our journey,   and our influence on the world that we  somehow achieve holistic development.  >>Sue Morter: Definitely, you know, this is one  of the first things that I that I noticed when I   came into this this world where there were  teachers that were teaching and healers that were   healing from this spiritual context and having  come out of natural health care, I was very,   you know, trained up on and had grown up inside  of this world where the body had the ability to   heal itself and our thoughts and our emotions had  an influence on that and all of this was kind of   working in a collaborative fashion and so my, my  come from, if you will, was just was just that   was very holistic and it's in its own right at  that time. And, and then I started meditating,   and almost instantly these openings started  occurring for me. And so, I was drawn to teachers,   I couldn't get enough of it when I would, you  know, would just sit down in a room with people   who were meditating. And, and, you know, a teacher  was I was translating information, I knew all of   it that was coming out was exactly the truth. And  what I was here to be reminded of, and it was,   it was my time to, you know, just drink this up.  And yet, I would notice that oftentimes, there was   extreme obvious health issues or extreme  habitual things in their lifestyle that were   really out of context, or it didn't make sense to  me, because I thought, number one, speaking again,   of the integrity piece, I thought that you had  to be an integrity, be a good person, you know,   be taking care of yourself and eating certain  ways. And, and I don't know, exercising and   those kinds of things that were, that were in my  mind at the time, appropriate for vitality, in,   in the human form. And, and here, I  was coming across, you know, quite,   quite a different arrangement, or do a different,  you know, collection of, of obvious priorities.   And, and then I started realizing, and I started  asking, and, and one of the teachers said to me,   if I'm a thief, and I become enlightened, I'm  an enlightened thief, you don't have to be an   integrity. And, and I, I, you know, that was  that was kind of close to the moment that I   started parting ways and kind of moving in a  different direction. But I was, I was also just,   it was striking to my heart space, that, that  someone that could be helping, this is another   individual who is a healer. And I would see  people flocked by the hundreds or the 1000s,   to this individual that that was healing, healing  people in these great rooms with, you know,   just a tremendous high pristine energy,  it's so evident, but yet, there was,   you know, just such an extraordinary  lack of vital force in this in the body   of this person, who was, who was doing this and, >>Rick Archer: Where did all that pristine energy   come from if there was his lack of vital force? >>Sue Morter: Running rooms of people that were   holding the space for the work and >>Rick Archer: So, the group itself   was creating that energy, but this guy was >>Sue Morter: Not. Not however, was, was,   you know, had these, these, these gifts, or these  talents, these Siddhis that were moving energies   in ways that most people cannot, and it just  had my attention, I was just captivated by it.   And also disheartened by, you know, the  integration piece not being there. And   interestingly, and not I can't say that that was  causal to why my interest became what it was,   but, but simultaneously, my interest in  integrating these experiences that I was   starting to have in these higher realms, I became  very interested in being able to repeat these on   command, right. And so, my mind trained the way it  was, is that I had to do it to get their heads and   figure out what I was doing that allowed me to  get there and, and after many years figured out,   it was not the doing, it was the undoing the not  doing that allowed that opening to be present and,   and for me to become aware of it. And,  and so, what I recognized in those years   was that I had to be more in my body,  and I had to be more integrated myself,   in order to have access to being able to tap these  frequencies on a regular basis, to be able to,   to sit and sense my way into that, to perceive  this stillness required more grounding for me.   And so, embodiment became a focus of mine, just  it developed itself. It just kind of birthed   itself as an a realization that in order for  me to tap these realms that I had shot up into,   just opened up into in order for me  to have access on a regular basis,   it required not efforts of this Enlightenment as  you're speaking of it, but really more focus on   embodiment, grounding myself coming into the  body coming into the wisdom, energies coming into   the having frequencies rather than the wanting  frequencies and coming into the loving presence,   rather than the trying efforting seeking  channels. And so, so, landing in the body,   more in more ways, is how I started interpreting,  I started sensing that, wow, I'm actually more   here. And that's what allows me to be there. And  there becomes here when I do that, so, so it,   it started to change my perception. Now, I hadn't  joined these meditation groups because I was   seeking Enlightenment, I didn't even know about  Enlightenment, I actually began participating   in it. And in an attempt for stress relief, I  was drawn to meditation for stress relief. And   I met someone who was already in a, you know,  in the 10, in the, the groups of meditating and,   and they took me there and, and in the midst of  that relationship, I found myself in the face of,   of these meditation, retreats, etc. And it was  really for the relationships that I was doing it,   as much as it was for stress relief, learn  to meditate just where I was coming from,   at the time. And, and so, in, in the  midst of that, I started having these,   these openings. And I'm so grateful that I  didn't know that this idea of Enlightenment was a   goal to pursue, because I was very goal oriented  at that point in my life, and I would have started   pursuing it, to the degree that I know I would  have never, I would have never allowed myself,   I can't say never, but I have a tendency to  believe that I would have made it harder on myself   when I was, if because I would have taken it on  as a project, I have to I have to get this done,   I have to do accomplish this, I have to do  this. And I didn't even really know that it   was something to, you know, accomplish, or  achieve. It never has felt like that to me.   And, and I think had I perceived it as such,  I might have gotten lost in the pursuit   and dialed into so much trying and efforting that  I might it might have taken me longer to ever sit   down and relax and allow and not do rather  than how I had accomplished the other things   in my life that I had accomplished. So yeah, >>Rick Archer: Some good points in there.   First of all, I think stress relief is a  perfectly legitimate reason to get involved   in meditation or yoga or something like that.  Sometimes people criticize it and say, Oh,   it's just superficial and worldly or whatever. But  why not? Is not that stress release a good thing?   Stress relief. And, and next thing, you know,  you're having beautiful, profound experiences. So,   if whatever gets you started, you know, >>Sue Morter: Exactly. Yeah, I totally agree.  >>Rick Archer: The thing about  grounding, I think is really good too.   Reminds me of an old Steven Wright joke where  he said that I broke up with my girlfriend   because I wasn't really into meditation,  and she really wasn't into being alive .   A lot of times people get a slice like a she  you know, her sailboat has to have a big heavy   keel down beneath the water in order to not  tip over. And sometimes people don't establish   that keel in their in their life. And they can  get very top heavy and very sort of airy fairy   and ungrounded. And it's, that's not what you're  looking for. I mean, you really want an integrated   development in which you can, you know, have  your, maybe have your head in the clouds,   but also have your feet on the ground  and then span the distance between them.  >>Sue Morter: Exactly, yes, I completely concur.  You know, the analogy of the roots in the tree,   and they can't really grow taller without  deepening the roots and rather the foundation of   a skyscraper or whatever. Yes, and I love the keel  and the sailboat, I love to sail, it's one of my,   one of my lessons in life and, and appreciating  working with collaborating with nature and the   forces of nature, the wind, and the water. And,  you know, that the power that you can feel when   you're integrating those elements at the same  time, and that's really what we're speaking about.  >>Rick Archer: Yeah. So, you've alluded  to these experiences you started having   let's get into some of those, like you had  this real Lollapalooza experience on some   retreat where you're in there. Talk about that. >>Sue Morter: Sure. So, I, I had been kind   of drawn into this community that we spoke of  earlier. And I was pulled in closely quickly to   the teacher and was serving as an as a personal  assistant very quickly just did it you know, like   blink blink. And, and I was also my disposition in  life was to serve to give to kind of over give and   to always be trying to do the right thing and help  out and, and it was a little outside of the self,   the degree to which that I was functioning that  way and, and, and perhaps this, this teacher was   on to that and gave me a list of things to  do, that were impossible to do in the amount   of time that I was given to do them. And so I was  running around behind the scenes at this retreat,   taking care of all sorts of things. And,  you know, making sure this and monitoring   that and going and purchasing this for this and  just, you know, literally running around in the   back hallways with sweat running down my back  to try to make this this experience beautiful   for 300 people that were sitting in the ballroom  with the music playing and the candles lit and,   you know, the draperies blowing in the breeze,  and it was, you know, I got past the door on my   way on one of my errands, and, and realize >>Rick Archer: You're actually a member of   this retreat, you just got kind of  drawn into all this work, right?  >>Sue Morter: I was, I was paying to do the work >>Rick Archer: Paying to do that, yeah.  >>Sue Morter: Yes. Wasn't very, right. So,  I and I, and I realized that and this one,   this one particular moment, I it hit me, I was  like, I looked at the list, and I looked at it,   you know, and I looked in the door and saw  these people having a beautiful time. And,   and I you know, it just landed for me. And I said,  you know, um, you know, I said actually a couple   of expletives and in very graphic form that got  the job done, and, you know, cut through something   in my own consciousness and, you know, a couple  of words, and, and I threw the list away and   walked into the room, and, you know, just said,  I'm just gonna go have me a meditation, you know,   by golly, and so I sat down and, and  I was, I was new to the whole thing,   I didn't understand Sanskrit, they were chanting  Sanskrit terms, and it was Om Namah Shivaya,   and it was the slowest version of that, that you  can imagine, and I wasn't used to singing or,   you know, letting anything come out of my mouth,  like that. And I would have thought of that as   sending singing at the time. That's, that's  where I was. And so, so I had to, I sat down and,   and they were, they were holding these tones  longer than I could, because I was very shallow   breather and a perfectionist trying to compensate  for my shyness in the world. And, you know,   just overcoming the overcoming and, and, so,  holding these tones, I had to concentrate with all   that I had everything that I had, which I think  was an important ingredient in the moment, and   Sanskrit tones, you know, Om Namah Shivaya making  these sounds that are obviously opening and, and   creating frequencies inside the system that have a  stilling effect on the mind and enlivening effect   on the, on the, on the essence on the energy  system beneath and, and I was having to breathe   slower than I ever breathed. And I was having  to take deeper breaths than I normally would,   in order to just stay in tandem and do the right  thing with everybody around me that was chanting   the right way. And I was trying to learn how to do  that. And so, in that, also, another ingredient,   another active ingredient, maybe, was that I was,  you know, I was taking a claim for myself, I was   like, you know, I'm not gonna go do this thing  that I always do of taking care of everybody else,   I'm gonna go to sit down and do something for  me. And it wasn't my general come from in life.   It was something I had to consciously learn how to  do. So, this was a moment where that was starting   to find a balance. And so, these ingredients  were all there. And the collective the group   energy was there and, and I got through a  few rounds of this Om Namah Shivaya and boom,   I disappeared into another realm. I was in a light  so brilliantly bright; it was 10 times brighter   than the brightest day in the desert that I had  ever seen. And I could see 360 degrees around   above below everything a sphere, I could just I  could see it all instantly. And I could perceive   the earth I could see the earth beneath me it was  about the size of a marble. And I was me, but I   wasn't in a body. I was embedded into the earth  up to what felt like it would have been my knees,   but it didn't have me. So, it was just this ray of  light, this golden Citrine kind of colored ray of,   of Conscious Light, and this brilliant light  above this horizon, and then bright light   below the horizon. And every time I took a breath,  this horizon was this pink, beautiful, iridescent   translucent blanket of light that would rise up on  my inhale as I was chanting and would drop to back   to its resting place on my exhale. And with each  inhale like these giant wings of a stingray just   swimming in slow motion under the oceans what it  looked like behind me beside in front everything   equal, and I knew that this brilliant light  overhead was becoming love as it passed through my   own system and that I was breathing love down this  ray to the earth. And I knew in that instant that   that is what we are, that's the only thing that's  happening that we are transmuting light into love   and creating and existence here in this  physical dimension. And I had freewill   in this moment because I could choose to breathe  big or small. And this blanket would respond in   accordance with that. And I knew that the degree  to which we allow ourselves to breathe freely,   is proportional to the amount of light that is  being transduced into love. In in our systems, and   I don't know how long I was there in this in  that initial moment. But when I dropped back into   my body and knew that I was sitting here in  this room, and could hear people chanting,   I opened my eyes, and I was looking from a  different place than I was looking from when   I initially closed them. And I happen to look to  the front of the room and the teacher was sitting   there eyes locked right on me with this huge smile  with you know, like, got you, you know, like,   I got you. And I was like yes, yes, yes,  yes, yes, you got you that had me completely.   And there was so much bliss, and, and  so much emanation of an exalted Divine   Presence. As I was in this body, I could feel the  radiance, again, that I could see had seen when   I was a kid in the creek bed, I could see it  emanating off of my own face and my hands and,   and everyone else, and could once again,  see these energies in the spaces between   the people that were in the room with me. And  I knew that my life was changed forever, in   that I now had a reference point that was my new  baseline, that everything would be relative to.   And I'll just add briefly to this, that  in, in the days that followed, you know,   there were tremendous, there was a tremendous time  of integration after that, for me, it was it was   a big challenge to try to pick up on in the life  that I've been living prior. But one of the things   that I noticed that is so interesting to me is  that when I would look at people in the room with   me, they would look like a photograph, you know,  the difference between if you pick up a photograph   of someone versus sitting right next to them and  seeing that the through the 3d version of them,   versus the two dimensional version of them  in a photograph how this looks so flat,   that people walking around in this world  looked as flat as a photograph, relative to   the multiple dimensional perception  that the field had my field had been,   you know, exposed to or awakened to, in some  way. And it was, it was quite interesting for   me to try to navigate how close I was to someone  where they were and where they were not. Because   of just trying to recalibrate, seeing  through this energy field, and just seeing   differently dimensionally after that. >>Rick Archer: Let's talk about let's   talk more about the days and weeks after that  big experience. In your book, you said that   it took you about a week before you had integrated  that energy enough so that you could sit and stand   and walk around. So, what was happening in that  week before you could even do those things.  >>Sue Morter: Yes, I was lying in a bed. And I  didn't care if I ever, ever opened my eyes and   came out in that bed because we were still on the  retreat that I was in. Well, what happened was I   came back, you know, just clamped down, got home  from the retreat. And, and, and as I got back from   the retreat, people were waiting for me at the  airport because they had heard that I had this   experience and the message on the other end was  Don't let her get on a plane. And I didn't get   the message I'd caught a 5am flight and you know,  so it was all that I could do someone was flying   with me. But I was just you know, muscling  up to simulate the same effort putting into   that I remember feeling like I if I was trying  to lift like a dumbbell with 150 pounds on it.   That much effort that you would put into that  and your physicality I was having to, like,   walk with trying to contain myself in a body, or I  would just bliss out and get lost at the airport,   which I was. You were in India when this  happened? Having to come back from India?   No, I was in the United States. >>Rick Archer: Oh, okay. Yeah.  >>Sue Morter: And so, and so, when I got home,  there were people there at the airport, helping   me get to the house, and, and boom, you know, when  I, when I'd lay down in my bed, I just let go, I   was able to just let go again. And there was this  beautiful woman who, who would wake me up every,   you know, a couple of times a day and, and give  me something to eat that they were, you know,   the teacher and some of the assistants were  recommending, and making sure that I was drinking   water and, and I would be just like, like, I  was drunk, like I was completely drugged or   just totally blissed out. And it wasn't, I wasn't,  you know, I don't, I haven't ever taken anything,   you know, psychotropic or psychedelic in that way.  And so, so there, I would lay there in this bliss.   And then as I would try, I would feel somebody  touching my body trying to, you know, stir me,   and I would have to compress myself is what it  felt like, just squeeze myself into this place,   this presence here. And, and it would be blissful,  but vibrating, just so much vibration. And you   know, as each day would pass, I was just, I would  be out all day, all night, just in this, in these   realms where there was, there was nothing, or  there would be, you know, kind of a cosmic kind   of feeling similar to what we see when we look  at that nebula and, you know, Star Dust and   these cosmic clouds that we look at when we look  at, you know, astronomy and photography of outer   space. And sometimes it would be like that, and  filled with colors or sounds, but it was all just,   you know, now, I have a greater context for those  things, but at the time, it was just, you know,   a blissful swirl of everything, and nothing-ness.  And, and then I got a call from the teacher about   four or five days later, and, you know, they held  up the phone for me, and I just remember hearing,   it's time for you to ground these energies, it's  just really time for you to ground this. And so,   the encouragement was to get into salt bath and,  and, you know, just start moving my body and that   type of thing. And so, that's, that's what I  did with a little help from my friends, and,   you know, got that in now, then, as soon as I  started doing that, things began to integrate   enough, I could walk around the house, and, you  know, but I didn't, I didn't want to hear music,   radio, people talking, the television, forget  about it, it felt so invasive, and so intense,   to my system, that had just been, you know, just  opened up into such an expansive state. And,   and I went to work maybe a week later for half  day, and we just go into my treatment room and,   and work with my patients and, and they  would leave and another one would come in,   and I would just kind of park myself for the  several weeks to come. And, you know, we would   laugh about the patients knew what was happening,  many of them knew what was going on. And,   and they were, they were happy to make their way  into the treatment room themselves instead of   being greeted and, you know, handled normally,  because they were, they would joke about,   you know, just being in the room with you at  this point is going to be, you know, a session   for me. And just learning how to, you know, do  the doing of life again, was fine. But it was   very obvious to me, the harshness that we  have adopted and adapted as the norm baseline,   inside of our human existence. They, the  energies that we've learned, that we tolerate,   that we tune out so many layers of our reality,  in order to function in our world, that it is   not a one, it's not a wonder, it's no wonder  that, that people have a hard time, you know,   dropping back down into that state of presence  that is the true self without the help of the   body. It was it was the embodiment piece that  allowed me to find my way here in this world with   the buffering and the filtering, that the body  itself does bringing my awareness into the body   was the saving grace was what allowed me to not  only become functional again, but really I found   super functional, I became much more capable,  much more energy much more endurance, much   more vitality and much more capacity to perceive,  you know, what, what was necessary, what was   appropriate, who we are what's going on here,  there was a level of discernment that just came   forward without an effort, all because I felt like  I was in my body for the first time in my life,   and, and that the body was contributing to the  ability to translate this really cosmic proportion   of, you know, intelligence that we are. So >>Rick Archer: That's pretty cool. As you were   speaking, I was kind of thinking of that line,  that scene in When Harry Met Sally, where Meg Ryan   is having this experience at the table with Billy  Crystal, and then someone at the next table says,   I'll have what she's having. >>Sue Morter:   Whatever that is. >>Rick Archer:   But it's, it's really interesting. And,   you know, like you say, when you finally  integrated this thing, the amount of energy that   you found that you had, and that you still have  was orders of magnitude above what it had been   before this. And you know, if you've ever people  who have ever encountered a sort of one of these   great beings like Amma, whose picture I have over  my shoulder, something that you think, how does   she do it? You know, I mean, how does she sit  there for literally for 24 hours without getting   off the couch, hugging 150,000 people or something  like that word, without dropping down and still   looks really bright when she gets up even more  so, maybe? So, there's this, you know, I mean,   I know you'd like to talk about physics and stuff.  I mean, physicists say that, at the level of the   vacuum state, there's more potential energy  unexpressed energy, than in a cubic centimeter,   then there is in the whole manifest universe, at  a more superficial level. And we are, you know,   whatever the vacuum state of the unified field  or anything may be, we are that, I mean, it's our   essence, as well as the essence of everything  else. And so ultimately, that's what we are.   And it seems that realizing that is tantamount  to tapping into that energy and being able to   be a conduit for it to whatever extent this  body can handle it. And obviously, initially,   it was maybe too much to handle for you. But then  you have you, you adapted to it, you adjusted to   it, and the rest has been cruising along for you. >>Sue Morter: It's been amazing. I've oftentimes   described it as people asked me, How do  you do what you do? How do you do that you   used to be on a plane, you know, two or three  times a week flying different cities constantly   doing and then just stepping in and teaching all  day for 5, 6, 7 days in a row? And at the end of   it, I could begin again, it's always that way.  And how do you do that? Where do you get the   energy and it's like, my, my knee jerk response  was, I'm not using my energy, it's, I mean,   it ultimately is mine, it's ours. But it's not  this separate self, this isolated entity that's   having to generate my own energy, it's like, I  borrow it, I utilize it, I give it back, I try to,   you know, improve upon it as I can, as I'm, you  know, expressing in the world and, and I just   get some more and give it back again, and it's  just literally feels like an open channel. And,   you know, that's become a part of the teaching  of, you know, the techniques, types of approach   that I utilize is to just to teach people to start  perceiving themselves as this open channel that is   receiving and utilizing and then, you know,  releasing and receiving and utilizing and   giving it back so that, that we're not walking  around trying to muster up the gumption or   find the energy to have to do something. Now,  I will say that the more analytical thinking   one does, the harder it is to do that.  So, we do have to cultivate this,   this sense of presence and observation and just  kind of kicking it into neutral and being here in   order for that to be able to happen consistently. >>Rick Archer: Yeah, and not only, as you say,   in your book, not only are most people not tapped  into this amazing energy, but also perhaps because   of that, they, their whole system, mind and body  function very inefficiently. So, there's a lot of   mental chatter that doesn't contribute to anything  and corresponding physiological agitation that   that is not an efficient way to function.  So, we not only do not have that infinite   access to that infinite energy, but we're  consuming a lot of the energy we do have with   fruitless activities, mental and physical. >>Sue Morter: Absolutely. People have no idea how   much energy they consume by trying to weigh out  their options and being trapped in it indecision   and, and writing stories about people's intentions  or, or predicting their future or regretting   their past there is so much energy consumed in  those uses of the mind that that energy then   is not available to be felt and perceived in a  strong enough concentration, that they could then   channel it into this, this toric field flow that,  that you know that I'm speaking about that that   became obvious to me that my system was running  on. So, they can't ever perceive the energy   flowing through their system because it's so  dissipated into these mental activities and   these emotional consumptions and regrets and  remorse s is and you know, all of that, that  >>Rick Archer: Spinning our wheels, >>Sue Morter: It disperses it, yes, it's   spinning wheels, and it's just flying off of us,  instead of containing it and holding it and having   it and appreciating it and feeling it so that the  sensory nervous system can start to perceive it   and appreciate it. You know, if once people start  being able to feel the energy that they truly are,   the sensory nervous system, the mind can, can  perceive it, and it can develop an appreciation   for it, which then magnifies it, and makes it even  more robust and obvious to us, and then it becomes   something we can work with. And something that we  don't we choose easily choose not to overthink a   situation because we can feel it, robbing our  energy, we choose not to, you know, predict, or   analyze or, or, or write a story about something  because we feel our energy being consumed   outwardly. And now not available to utilize in  the ways that that we came here to utilize it,   you know, that, that we came here to awaken to it? >>Rick Archer: Yeah, there's a verse in The Gita,   which goes for many branched and endlessly diverse  are the intellects of the irresolute. But the   resolute intellect is one-pointed nose reminds me  of sort of like a bicycle wheel where, you know,   ordinarily, people's attention are scattered like  the spokes in every direction. And they're out on   one or another spoke kind of just jumping around  without any center. But you know, the resolute   intellect, someone who is established, there  is more like the hub. And you know, can just   the hub doesn't actually move much compared to  the spokes, spokes are going around like this,   the hub is just in more silent space. And but  from its perspective, you know, it, it hasn't   sort of gone out and gotten lost on one spoke  or another, it's kind of the source of our bases   are literally the hub of all the spokes. And, you  know, so if we can function from there, obviously,   our, you know, our activity can be much more  efficient, because we're not literally scattered.  >>Sue Morter: And we can sense in an instant, if  it's worth my attention or not, yeah, don't leave   home if we're here. But we roll our attention  out there and look, but I'm still sitting here,   instead of me going over there to that thing, but  staying on the self and observing, then we can   tell in an instant, if that's something that is  really a vibrational frequency that I that I am,   does it match? Does it match the real me that  because we can maintain that reference point?   But if we go, if we throw all of our attention  over there onto the outer edge of the spoke,   if you will, we're over there on the object  instead of on the self, where we're now out   there in the relative and it's really tough  to, to maintain a reference point of self,   when we're completely caught up in the  movie, where we're really caught up out   there in the material world in the manifest. >>Rick Archer: Yeah, another element of it, which   you, I noted from your book is that you after this  big breakthrough, you had a lot more kind of what   we might call supportive nature, things were  just kind of working out for you in in really   interesting ways. One might almost say miraculous,  and also you already referred to the intuition.   And you know, one quick comment on that is, you  know, I do think, and you probably agree that   there's a kind of a, an all-pervading intelligence  that orchestrates the universe. And if we actually   become one with that, even though we may not  know everything that's not humanly possible,   but residing there, then that intelligence which  is orchestrating everything orchestrates things   for us to if we have a desire, it's basically  a cosmic desire. It's a desire of that cosmic   intelligence that is just being reflected through  our individuality. And so, it gets the support of   the cosmos rather than relying exclusively  on our little, tiny individual efforts.  >>Sue Morter: Beautiful. I love it and yes, this  is exactly how you I would describe it, it is   the desires that rise are supported by the cosmos,  because they're rising from the cosmos, instead of  >>Rick Archer: Exactly >>Sue Morter: This separate   individual self coming up with some idea, and  then trying to go out and find support for it,   the things that occur are the things that  are destined to materialize in the manifest,   and they become the desires, because we're tapped  into that we're not losing that connection. So   as such, it generates this sort of what I  referenced as this wave of grace, that just moves   through my life experience. And people marvel  about it, I marvel about it at the same time,   that it happens. So consistently, and projects  that I engage in every day, I'm in the middle of   renovating a home that that I just moved into,  and, and people are showing up out of nowhere,   that have the skills or the  abilities and, you know, when,   when it's at a time where that's, you know, not  readily available. People are marveling that   these things are happening in record time and with  record ease, and they scratch their heads as they   walk past me in the hallway. It's like, I know, >>Rick Archer: Yeah, supportive nature. Another   thing that happens, which I think I heard  you say something about is that sometimes   when things don't work out, it's actually to your  advantage. Like today, I took a walk in the woods,   and I spent 55 minutes making a recording to  somebody who had had a spiritual awakening was   wondering what to do, and then the battery in my  iPod died, and the recording wasn't saved. And so,   you know, I thought, okay, well, there must be  a reason for it. I'll make another one tomorrow.   And I don't know, we don't want to start reading  cosmic significance to into every little thing   that happens. But you do kind of after a while  begin to trust, the way things are orchestrated,   again, by that intelligence I was referring to  there's you trust it because it, it proves itself,   you know, over and over again. >>Sue Morter: Time and time again,   time and time again. And the ease with  which that allows life to unfold is   tremendous, that that you didn't get upset, and  that you didn't start in your mind thinking,   you know, judging out I should have charged  it, I should have known all the things that   people do in that moment, when you actually now  know that the recording that you make tomorrow   is going to have some element in it or some kind  of angle to it. That didn't come through today,   that will come on that will come through tomorrow,  or whenever that recording does happen, that will   be perfectly suited for whatever this individual  is supposed to hear back from you. No question.  >>Rick Archer: There's that movie with Tom Hanks,  Bridge of Spies. And Tom Hanks is talking to this   guy who was a spy. And he was saying to the guy  just sitting there casually smoking a cigarette,   the jig is up for him. He's been found out and  he could. And Tom Hanks is saying, you know,   you could end up getting executed. Aren't you  worried? And he takes a puff on a cigarette and   says, Would it help? >>Sue Morter:   No amount of worry is gonna get me out of this. >>Rick Archer:   A couple of questions came in, let's  ask those. And then we'll use that as a   way of shifting gears and talking more about the  energy codes. So, one is from Rita in Melbourne,   Australia. And she asks, she actually sent this  in a few days ago, and she said asked us of any   guests who would like to answer, and I thought  well ask Sue, because she's the next one up.   She said, I understand this is a spiritually  significant time right now. How can I harness   embrace and further action, further action, my  connection with the universe both consciously   and subconsciously, in alignment in what I  do every day? What changes can I expect to   see, hear, or feel? What evidence will I notice? >>Sue Morter: I think that we are being gifted at   this time with a tremendous, unique circumstance  that humanity has been asked to evaluate,   to go home, to sit down to not do all the  things that we normally do. There's a stillness   before us that isn't typical. And in that I feel  that that this bandwidth of the mental self is   softening is poised in more curiosity rather than  being on autopilot. And so there's a presence and   an availability and how someone might capitalize  on that is to just simply bring consciousness to   the fact that there is a divine order to things  and that what we are all collectively being   invited to do right now is in service to that  and if we will allow that to be true for us on   a personal level, then we are embracing what is  occurring, rather than being resistant to the fact   that we have to do this, or we have to do that,  or we can't do this, or this is not happening   right now. And instead of being in resistance to  it, to embrace it fully, to, to be curious about   how is this serving? And even if the answer  to the question doesn't come immediately,   the fact that we're asking an open ended  question that is filled with possibility,   puts us in a vibrational frequency where this can  serve us, instead of us dialing into the frequency   of frustration and fear or resistance or, or  resentment that we're unable to be as freely,   you know, doing or going as we, as we used to  be, we're being we're being called into another   version of ourselves. And if we allow  that to be the perfect right time, and,   and accept that on a personal note, I think that  people will, and the students that I'm working   with are definitely reporting this happening,  that, that they're finding that they have   a greater sense of presence and patience, and that  they're healing and that they're rejuvenating,   and that they have more energy available. And  they have more curiosity and creativity happening,   because they're actively embracing, and there are  so many things that happen in the course of a day   to, to remind us, oh, here's another opportunity  to do that. Or here's another opportunity. If we,   if we, you know, read them read the news, or  watch the news, or here's something happening,   it's another opportunity that's constantly being  elevated in on a conscious level, for us to start   to walk and talk completely differently. So, by  embracing it, number one, I think that it will   dial you into a field of possibility and  creativity and allow for rejuvenation the way that   we're speaking about this of your own energies to  be able to be focused now on something different   than then trying to strategize on how to deal  with these difficult times, but, but rather, just   embrace them, just assume that this is in your  favor, and that it's here for you. And by doing   so, your translation of the energies happens very  differently. And as such, your body physically has   now more energy to work with results of that, or  outcomes of being that way with it are definitely   going to be presenting things to you like what  we're describing, you may even find that you're,   you're closer in a divine nature, to, to the  true self or to nature itself, or to a cosmic   relationship of sorts that, that if we walk  around, recognizing that, wow, life is really   different. And this is happening in my favor.  And there's something here that is here, for me,   that wasn't here for me a year ago, that, that you  begin to establish a rapport with something that   used to feel out there and separate from you. And  it's through that rapport in that relationship,   that we begin to actually be able to merge  with it and become a bigger state of being   because of this embracing in this trust in this  faith. That's, that's right up in our face,   in a way that it wasn't, you know, for the  majority of our adult lives. So, so I'm   hoping that that's helpful. I'm not sure that  I tapped into all aspects of the question. I'll  >>Rick Archer: You never, you never can get  everything, but that was good. But what about, you   know, I mean, things have been the, the pandemic  and the shutdown and all that probably haven't   impacted you and I to adversely,  although you can't travel and do your,   your seminars, but um, you know, you're doing  okay, and I'm doing okay, doing what I do,   I can do it from home. But what about  the person who worked in or owned a   restaurant, and the restaurant has been closed  down, you know, and they're out of money,   and they've got kids to feed and everything, some  people are really going through it right now. And   they're also kind of on a forced retreat in a  way where people who aren't used to retreats   begin to feel very uncomfortable,  because they're used to sort of   doing stuff. So how do you speak to those people? >>Sue Morter: Sure. And my heart so goes out   to individuals I have, dear friends that are  that are in these types of circumstances. And,   and in our conversations, what they are realizing  is that for some of them, they're realizing that   while they were doing what they were doing, and it  was their source of income, it really wasn't their   choice of vocation, and that they're actually in a  state of reevaluation and reinvention. And what I   feel on a higher spiritual level is happening  for them is that that forced reevaluation or   that forced you know, stymie of this system that  was in flow is, is causing this squeeze up into   a higher meaning of life and really looking to  who I am what matters most, and these energies of,   of searching and finding and reprioritizing.  And, and so many people have reported to me in   conversation that, that they're finding that they  have a greater understanding of love, and their   value system is shifting and, and while they're  struggling with their finances, they're also   recognizing that a reprioritization  of what they thought they needed,   is happening. And so, if someone, you  know, if someone is on a spiritual path,   and they find themselves living in an  ashram or they find themselves wanting to,   to seclude themselves, or to even relinquish  a lot of their worldly goods because of the   energetic that that consumes and that suddenly  they're being drawn into this centeredness,   and this, this alignment with their true divine  nature, those things are happening voluntarily for   someone who's seeking on the path. And, and what's  happening are those same sets of circumstances in   mass for humanity. And while we're meeting it  with confusion and frustration, and, you know,   an inherent resistance, and in a sense of  Survivor hood, it ultimately might be drawing them   into that same vertical alignment, that ultimately  in the course of their life, will be a necessity.   It is a necessity for each of us, sometimes it  doesn't happen until the days that we are in, you   know bedridden, that we are in hospice, or that  we are in, you know, serious contemplation of,   of who we are in our, our moments left here on  Earth, that sort of arrangement and alignment   is trying to happen. And there's a sense of  desperation about it, oftentimes causing a lot of   fear in the midst of one's transition out of the  physical dimension and into the spiritual realms,   you know, in involved in that cycling that we  were speaking of earlier in our conversation.   And so, what if right now, it's breaking the seal  on what we thought life was and causing us to do   some of those evaluations and meet with some of  that discomfort now, so that as this starts to   open up again, we are aware and awake to parts of  ourselves that that no other set of circumstances   may have generated the awareness of. And  so, as we go through the rest of our lives,   a greater sense of self, and this awareness is  included in all of our decisions in our actions   that we are taking moving forward. And so, as  we add near the end of our life experience here,   we already have a greater sense of self as if  we'd been on a deep spiritual path. By choice,   it seemingly put us there not by choice, but at  some level, it accomplished what, what we are here   to accomplish, and awaken to in this realm, which  is who we are, what is true. What matters most,   while we're here on this frontier of consciousness  called the third dimension in a physical   form, you know, now that might not speak to  Okay, on a daily basis, here's what you do.   And I do speak to that, but just trying to, to,  to give some kind of context for people who are   confused and afraid, and really dealing with it on  a on a challenge level right now that there might   be a really high level of support happening here.  That is something that might not have met the eye   under any other set of circumstances. >>Rick Archer: So, in other words, it may be   that the whole world is going through a kind of a  phase transition or a reshuffling that is similar   to that which an individual may undergo as they're  transitioning into a higher state of consciousness   or higher state of being. There was, I once heard  a chemist speak at a conference named Ilya, Ilya   Prigogine, he won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry.  And he talked about how in the transition from   one state to another, there's often a sort of a  turbulent period, wherever and we can think of   the example of caterpillar to butterfly where it  turns to mush and then the imaginal cells form it   into a butterfly. So, there's often a kind of a  breakdown of familiar or comfortable structures.   That's apparently necessary as a transition takes  place. I mean, look at you had a big experience   and then you were flat on your back for at  least a week and couldn't function and had   to gradually relearn to function but when you did,  so, you were functioning in a whole different way.   So maybe that's happening to the world right now.  And that might give a more positive perspective   on what is otherwise a dire situation. >>Sue Morter: I do feel that it is I do,   I inherently feel that this is a good thing  that we are having to reimagine ourselves that   it is up leveling the amount of animated creative  source energy inside of the bandwidth of human   consciousness that we are animating creativity  and, and presence, we're having to rethink things,   we're here, we're plugged in, in a way that  autopilot wasn't doing a year, a year and a   half ago, you know, as, as this was starting to,  to come down, you know, people were immediately   having to respond. And then after a few months,  they were having to, okay, I gotta get busy,   I gotta figure this out, how to reengage. And then  after a few months, really readjust that and deal   with emotional issues that that are, you know,  surfacing because of frustrations and fears, and,   and recognizing how, how regularly we depend on  thinking that we know what's coming, you know,   we dependent on that assumption, and, and clearly,  we didn't, we didn't know, we just thought we did,   but, but we rode on that thinking that we knew  what to anticipate each day to some degree.   And it freed us up. So, I feel that it's  cultivating a deeper level of faith and trust and,   and ultimately, I feel like that is acclimating  us introducing us to and acclimating us to   the invisible realm. Who am I, when I can't do the  things that I'm used to doing, when I don't get to   show up in the world, the way I'm used to showing  up, then who am I really, and what else is here in   this world behind the scenes, that, that I might  be able to start to, to activate and work with,   you know, to put that into some tangible  terms? I've been working with people who   have been like, this hidden secluded, secret, Lee  empathic all their lives, that now they're able   to come out and work with these energies, because  it's, it's accessible, they're not doing all the   things that they were doing before. They're they  have time, they have space, they have energy.   And they have awareness to tap into these, I'm  working with people and in sharing with them how   to become not only the healers that they are, but  to work with people remotely, because we've been   forced to work with people remotely. And so,  people are tapping into talents and gifts that   they never knew they had. And, and likely wouldn't  have pursued it, given the pace that humanity was   in, and, and so, so many gifts are being revealed,  in this invisible behind the scenes, higher   states of consciousness, aspects of every human  being on the planet, to some degree or another   than just like everything else, the degree to  which we embrace it and become curious about it,   is the degree to which it will serve us. And the  degree to which we resist it and clamp down and   contract in the face of it is the degree to  which we will suffer. And not to say that,   you know, my business went away and, and I  own a restaurant that I can't, you know, bring   people to and so I'm not, you know, the funds  just simply aren't there and I'm losing that.   That is that is a very real intangible thing. But  if we could say, okay, you know, it that that,   what if that was serving me, what would that look  like? What if it was good? Then how would I start   processing? Everything that I'm processing? How  would I you know, what emotions would rise up   in me what energies would I feel inside my  system any differently than then how I was   feeling it when I'm just in the shock and in  the resistance and in the emotional, you know,   upheaval, and then therefore, perhaps even  anxiousness or, or depression, because of it.   If I were to change my perception on it, might  I also change my experience and the degree to   which I can benefit from this reinvention time? >>Rick Archer: Last week, I interviewed three   guys who have a podcast called Con-spirituality.  And one of the things we discussed is that in   other pandemic times and in times of great  social upheaval and economic collapse and   things like that, conspiracy theories just seem to  go wild. As if people are grasping it at means of   understanding what the heck is going on in their  world. And this is happening now obviously, and,   you know, there are people who say the virus  is a hoax or that, we don't even have to go   into them all. But do you have any thoughts on  this it actually the spiritual community, which   is why this word skin spirituality was coined,  seems particularly susceptible to it. There.   I have friends in Sedona, who say that maybe three  quarters of the people of the new agey types there   are into QAnon, or something related to it. So,  do you have any insights about this phenomenon,   which I find rather baffling and disturbing? >>Sue Morter: Yes, you know, Rick, I think it   comes down to the basic human dilemma.  I think that ultimately, we are here   to choose, we are here to create. And  ultimately, we are here to determine   what the nature of our presence here will be.  We're here to choose that and create it. And so,   as circumstances arise, and the pressure  is up, and the intensity is upon us,   we again are at choice. So, whether it is a hoax,  or is real, whether it is man-made or natural,   whether it is intended for this purpose  or that purpose. The bottom line is,   who will you choose to be given your circumstances  that you are actually experiencing each day? Who   will you choose to be? How would you choose  to utilize your energies? What amount of love   and presence and good intention? What degree of  action will you place upon those qualities that   you are being that you are breathing that  you are bringing? What degree of action in   what ways will you express will you maintain your  identity as a presence that is completely capable   of processing everything that is before  you because ultimately, as we said earlier,   in this conversation, you're made of the universe,  there is not a single thing that you are not, you   are that compressed into a body? And you are that  waking up, you're bringing conscious awareness to   all of those vibrational frequencies. So there is  nothing out here that is bigger than you, unless   you choose to only identify as a fraction of who  you actually are, when we become identified as the   protective personality or the false self or the  egoic, you know, individual that needs to guard   or fight against in order to have, then, then we  are, we're subjecting ourselves to the world of   duality, where we really have to, you know, put  up our Dukes and be strong and fight back and,   and if we can teach our minds to recognize the  greatness, the mag, the magnificence of our being,   then we can walk in a state of  transmutation, walk in a state of   flourishing abundance, no matter what our external  circumstances are. And so, you know, that's what   we're here to do is to master the internal  reality, regardless of external circumstances,   we're here to bring the absolute we're not  here to find it, we're here to reveal it.   And because we're not clear on that we get  really caught up in is it this? Or is it   that? Is it this? Or is it that? And in reality,  I think the answer is yes. Is this and it is that   and who are you going to choose to be in the face  of all of those possibilities. And so, so whether   it's conspiracy, and whether it's true, whether  it's real, whether it's induced, or whether it's,   you know, just because we've made, you know,  we've medicated ourselves to the degree that the   bugs that are surviving are superbugs, we have to  realize that, that there is also an evolution of   human consciousness at that same time, and we have  the potential to transmute anything, if we will   teach ourselves if we will, we will organize and  integrate and embody and, and root and ground   as we were speaking earlier, then our capacity  elevates. And as our capacity elevates, we are   capable of transmuting this current situation,  so is a long answer to a short question, but it   is, I think, ultimately it boils down to it's  our choice and it's in there just up the game is   being upped because we're up for the game being  upped. And, and here we are at a choice point.  >>Rick Archer: I want to give you  time to talk about the energy codes.   But a few more questions have come in. Do  you want to just talk about the energy codes?   Or do you want me to ask the questions and  maybe you can kind of weave in some energy   code stuff to the answers for these questions. >>Sue Morter: Let's take the questions for sure.  >>Rick Archer: All right. So, here's one  from Wesley in Oregon, he asks I have I   have heard the idea that and often felt that  certain mantras and prayers like for example,   the Gayatri Mantra or say the Lord's prayer that  these common sacred chants carry the charge of   the whole collective energy of the countless  times they've been spoken throughout time.   That enchanting them one is plugged into  and adding to the power of that accumulated   field energy. Any thoughts on that Sue? >>Sue Morter: I definitely concur with that.   I also think that that is not the only reason that  they carry the power that they carry. I think that   the root power that they carry is the vibrational  frequency and intonation and what is activated in   the system. By letting them move through our  individual bodies in vibrational frequency,   we're made of light, and we're compressed together  into a physical body. And on the way to that sound   is generated in that compressive state. And so,  the sounds of the Gayatri Mantra, for instance,   are sounds that activate different vibrational  frequencies throughout our whole system. And as we   repeat those tones, we become actively enlivened  by the toning and levels of our consciousness are   enlivened. And, of course, in the bandwidth of  human consciousness that we're all tapping into,   the more that something is held as true at the  conscious level, through the repetition over the   years over the ages. It of course, enhances that  in the very vibrations that we're walking through   inside of this bandwidth that we share.  So, so it was originally phenomenally   profound. And it has only been enhanced because  it has been held as sacred because of what it is,   since the beginning of this, this recording. Yeah, >>Rick Archer: yeah. It's also said that these   mantras, and the Bija mantras that are  often taught, actually are just sort of the,   if a mantra can be chanted out  loud or thought in the mind,   then they're actually subtler levels of that  Mantra as well. And at the very subtlest level,   it's said that these powerful mantras actually  are aligned with one would say, with deep impulses   of intelligence that are very fundamental  to nature, we can call them Gods or devas   in that terminology, but that using the  Mantra actually creates a collaborative   sort of relationship with that, God or that  impulsive intelligence, we help them in some way   they help us. And, you know, everybody's happy. >>Sue Morter: Yes, a resonance of coherence, and   ultimately an awakening, I also feel that we, we  do merge with that frequency, so it doesn't remain   me and them that is helping me it is then a We,  and then it is an I. And that I am that as well.   But I can't get there with my egoic mind with  my with my material-based consciousness, I can   only get there as a vibrational coherence, I can  only get there as a vibrational resonance when,   when I allow my thinking mind to soften into the  heart space and to allow these tones to be spoken,   then I'm activating that for the greater self. >>Rick Archer: Good. Martin from Germany, as   if the inner state is manifesting in the outer  world, and my anger or even rage of being treated   with injustice, and humiliation, is creating  resistance and back anger in my opposites.   I think he means he gets angry, and then  it comes back to him. How do I change that?   Do I have to love my enemies? And how would  I do that? Or do I have to let them humiliate   me and be submissive? In other words, how do I  turn the situation around from the inside out?  >>Sue Morter: Yes. Well, you said it in the last  part of your question is this from the inside out.   So, loving your enemies is a wonderful thing to  do, but your enemies are only a reflection of you.   So, they are the reflection of that, you know,  science is showing us that we're just projecting   our self onto a movie screen, and then we're  engaging with the self. And it is in through   that that we're then able to come to know what's  going on in here that I have enemies reflects   the fact that I internally am not embracing  all aspects of the self. So, self-love is and   to stay on the self and to truly be loving into  the self or as the self even more accurately, then   what happens is in the idea of enemies disappears.  When there is enough self-love happening.   When there is enough self-love happening.  We emanate and radiate a different movie.   And we look into these people, and we see them  not quite as the enemy that they were before, but   perhaps a teacher, or perhaps a reference point  for me to glean feedback on how I'm doing at the   game of self-love. If I'm constantly bumping into  friction and resistance and people that are mean   or that that, are you know, not acting in love.  Then if that is an out picturing of what's going   on in here, it simply means there are parts of me  that I haven't embraced yet. There are parts of me   that I'm not loving into. There are self-judgments  and, and compartmentalization that I've generated.   And they are reflecting that back to me. And as I  focus on changing this from the inside out, like   take your attention off the enemies for a bit, and  utilize that as man, if, if that degree of unloved   or non-Love is coming at me, it's coming from me.  And so maybe I'm not mean to them, but maybe I'm   not so nice to me, just to put it simply, and so  start loving into those parts of the self that   have gotten, you know, abandoned and have gotten  thrown under the bus along the way and, and start   reclaiming them and calling them back and getting  to know them and, and breathing into them with   compassion and, and, and beginning again, a new  and what will happen is, you will see that when   you look out to these enemies, they don't look  quite so, so distorted any longer that there's   a refinement that's happening in the field, which  allows you to have a different engagement there.  >>Rick Archer: Yeah. Okay, this next question,  I think will help us segue into more about the   energy codes. This is from camera on in  San Marcos, California. How important is   practice and the experience of true nature? >>Sue Morter: Beautiful. Well, you know,   it's not that we have to practice to, to relate  to true nature, it is that we have to practice not   separating ourselves from true nature, we have to  practice stopping that. So practices in my, in my   estimation, are designed to teach us how to undo  what we landed here and began doing as a means   of survivorship, not knowing who we were, while in  the years that we were formulating our orientation   here on this planet, you know, we kind of land in  splat, and our mind goes one way and our body goes   another and, you know, our consciousness is kind  of hanging out to see if it's ever going to be   safe to drop into the river fully. And, and so,  so practices are how to gather ourselves again,   so that we know that mind and body and spirit  breath are, are really unified, they're really one   thing. And as such, we come to know ourselves as  nature again, so we're awakening to true nature,   by using practices that will call us back  home again. Is the mind is splattered out   here oriented to the external world and through  pratyahara retracting our senses back inwardly,   we can come to sense and feel and perceive  the self in ways that we just never, we never   can orchestrate that kind of understanding  when our attention is externally oriented.   So, so techniques practices regularity, systemized  way of coming back onto the self, all that it is   doing is allowing you to discover the nature  the true nature, that that you are, that your   mind alone never got to experience because it is  only a certain fraction of energetic bandwidths.   And it's not the whole. And when we are  identified as the mind, we don't feel complete.   And we never will because we're not if we're  identified as the mind. So, what we're doing is   peeling ourselves off of the mind, coming  back on to the self-realizing we have a mind,   that's to serve us, instead of it controlling the  show, we have to get it in its proper role. And,   and so practices are what allow that to  happen in a consistent enough fashion,   that enough of the photons and then activating the  sensory nervous system. And then this perception   of self can happen in a consistent fashion that  we don't forget, we don't just have an aha moment.   And then two minutes later, you know, be upset  at the guy who cut us off in traffic, you know,   thinking that it's the end of the world. So >>Rick Archer: A couple of things I want to   hear you talk about more, one is the bus stop  conversation, you can explain what that is.   And then, you know, let's say someone reads  this book, or eventually, you know, gets   to go to seminars or workshops that you teach,  what are they actually going to learn? So,   let's cover both of those things if we could. >>Sue Morter: Sure. So the bus stop conversation   is similar to what might click in for someone  easily to reference it as a soul contracts kind   of idea where we have an arrangement that  that I'm going to help you refine something   and you're going to help me refine something  while we come into this, this realm in these   bodies and live this life, so I used to describe  it as a council conversation a council angels,   getting ready to come to earth. You know, we  play out the roles, figure out what, who's   going to help who with what. And then we come,  and we forget that we have that conversation,   and we figure it out when we come. And, and then I  found myself speaking at, at business conferences   in medical communities where councils of Angel  type conversations weren't going to fly in. So,   I just tossed it out one day as this, okay, just  imagine that you're going to the bus stop to catch   the bus to come to Earth. And, and while you're  there, you strike up a conversation at others at   the bus stop. And, and you ask him, you know,  what are you going to experience when you go   in and, and the other person, you know, does  the same. And somebody says, well, I don't know,   I've never been and somebody else raises their  hand says, I've been there before. crazy place.   Super wild. Last time I left I, I accidentally,  like coincidentally did this thing that they   call forgiveness. And, and it felt so amazing,  that all this energy just rushed through me,   and I let go of all these things that  I was carrying around forever, and   boom, you know, I just had this amazing  revelation, and then you know, it was over,   because I was on my way out. So, I'm going back,  and I'm going to do that again. But I'm gonna   do it sooner, and I'm gonna do it bigger. So,  I'm going back for a level 10 forgiveness. And,   and I can't wait, because what I felt was  amazing, it's going to be 10-fold of that.   So that another person at the bus stop was like,  wow, sounds great. How are you going to do that?   That person says, Well, I guess I'm gonna have  to, I don't know, experience something that's   nearly unforgivable . And then I'm gonna live with  that and be angry about that and be frustrated and   compressed inside myself, get down the road, start  feeling the physical effects of that, you know,   my, my health is going to decline live, this  contracted, compressed life. And at some point,   I'm gonna get sick and tired of being that way,  I'm going to reach inside myself, and I'm gonna   find some part of me that I don't even know I had  some depth in depth level of forgiveness, reach   up and express it out there. And I mean, to have  this, this, this huge experience of forgiveness,   and get to know a part of myself that I, I never  would have known. And so, you know, the other   people at the bus stop are like, whoa, sounds  amazing. You know, how, how can we help? And   the person says, Well, somebody's going to have  to do something that's nearly unforgivable. Like,   you know, drink too much at happy hour, get behind  the wheel, cross the center line, hit my car,   take my loved ones, cripple me, you know, these  kinds of things that could have been avoided,   it has to be just, you know, just completely wrong  of wrongs. And, and so you know, who will help me?   And, you know, everybody's like, not me,  I don't want to be that guy, you know,   who wants to be that guy? And, and so then the  conversation, you know, goes on, and it's like,   really come on out, I bought my bus ticket.  Now, here I am, this is my chance. You know,   don't, don't leave me out. And so,  somebody, finally the back of the place,   raises their hand and says, okay, I can see  how much this means to you, I'll be the one,   I'll be the one that is the perpetrator, the one  that does these, these nearly unforgivable things.   So that can be translated in many ways, many  different people's lives. And invariably, when I   share this, whether I'm doing an online teaching,  and you know, which, which I'm doing now,   or when we were in the rooms together, invariably  people crying and recognizing, oh, my God, that,   you know, the person who abused me or the person  who abandoned me, actually was the one who,   you know, finally raised their hand and helped  me deliver or help deliver this scenario for me,   that is going to allow me to reach inside and  find maybe a level 10 self-love that I never   would have found had I not been up against  the adverse circumstances, the friction that   was created from that dynamic, or, you know >>Rick Archer: Which is not to say that an   abuser can say, I'm doing this for your own good. >>Sue Morter: Yeah, no. So, it is not that we   ask for it in that way. And ultimately,  that abuser is going to have to take,   take inventory on what they came here to learn.  So, it might be self-forgiveness, it might be,   you know, redemption, it might be something along  those same lines, that they will have to come   to terms, whether it's now or whether  it's blink, blink, a few lifetimes later,   it does resolve because that is the way the  universe works. It does abhor a vacuum; it wants   to fill it at once flow and unity. So, these kinds  of concentrated energies that are unresolved,   cannot maintain themselves and so we're here to  resolve them consciously on this spiritual path,   so that we don't have to pay it out  karmically in some kind of unconscious manner,   we can dissolve that right here with  our own awareness and intention. So,   the bus stop conversation is to allow this  understanding on more of a personal note, that,   that there is purpose that that nothing is bigger  than us that we managed it that we requested it   so that we could awaken ourselves in certain  ways that we are bigger than these individual   circumstances that we are facing in this life. >>Rick Archer: Patanjali said to avert the danger,   which has not yet come which means if you can work  it all out within yourself so that you don't have   to work it out karmically as you just said. >>Sue Morter: Yes, yes. Beautiful.  >>Rick Archer: Right, let's talk about the  energy code. So, tell us what this is all about.  >>Sue Morter: Certainly, well, we've kind  of been talking about the energy code.  >>Rick Archer: We kind of have been. Yeah. >>Sue Morter: Yeah. So, the book is filled   with principles and practices. And so,  the principles we've been tapping into,   in, in large proportion in our conversation,  and the practices are, how do you start to do   that? How do you come on to the self instead of  being splattered and dispersed? And how do you   find ways to build the circuitry to perceive a  greater sense of self rather than being caught   up in our survivorship and our knee jerk reactions  and the patterns and the habits that we've   established and, and even a sense of self that  we've orchestrated over the course of our lives?   How do we find that greater self and, and so it's,  it's a series of practices that use breathwork and   use the conscious and the subconscious mind  and memory and, and nerve patterning, develop   developing synapses in the brain and in the body,  that allow for circuits to be built to sustain   a greater sense of healing and filtering  and cleansing rather than the defensive,   protective guarded portions of the nervous  system, and so forth? So, I talk about body   chemistry and very user-friendly terms that  people can implement, you know, lifestyles,   that, that generate an alkaline environment,  so that our immunity and our robust vitality is   present. And I also have, you know, a large  emphasis there on, on how to really understand how   to work with the individual circumstances that are  happening in your life and, and how to allow the   body to serve the minds attempt to understand and  to translate that billions of bits of information   bombard us every milli second this energy  field that we are, and they land at the gut,   they don't land at our head, and then they rise  up through the brain in our gut, and are filtered   through the brain in our heart, and then they rise  up to the brain in our head so that by then we've   they've been translated into images and ideas and  perceptions that are serving our lives here. And   if we're not living in our bodies, if we're just  living in our heads, then we, then we overthink,   and we don't use the body to help us filter and  translate these energies. And so, we don't know   what to do with them. And we become anxious. And,  you know, and overthink and over predict and,   and analytical in ways that aren't serving us  the way that we've been speaking about it today.   And so, for instance, a real, tangible, and  valuable technique that, that people learn right   away, is how to breathe up and down through the  Sushumna, this central channel in the body, and   how to anchor ourselves in the body. While we're  learning to enliven this, it's a great integrator,   it is what activates this integrative energy that  allows us to not only be loving, but be loving   and powerful, not only be loving and powerful, but  also be wise and creative and, and strong and, and   spiritual and capable all at the same time that  we don't have to be either powerful or spiritual,   or either powerful or loving, that we can have  all of that we are made of all of that. And   we want to be able to access all of it all the  time, whenever it is appropriate. So that central   channel breathing, and then breathing for each of  the energy centers and the levels of consciousness   that are associated with them to enliven them,  specifically, is a fantastic piece of it. And what   I really love about it is that we start working  with energy instead of story, we start working   with the energy instead of the thinking mind.  So, if someone walks in the room and upsets you,   instead of saying, well, why do you do that? Or  why do I get so upset when you do that? Either   of which is a kind of an unanswerable question. If  we're asking it, we haven't been able to find the   answer to it. But to take people's attention to  the body, and to realize that, that your system is   going to tell you exactly why that's happening if  you let the body speak. So, we learn a language of   the body, that if you have a knot in your stomach,  it means something different than if you get a   lump in your throat, or different than if you have  tightness in your chest, I just realized I have an   image here that I use when I'm teaching often.  That there is this flow of energy comes down   through the body hits the earth rises up again  gets transmuted for human consumption rises up   again. And this energy actually is you. It is  an energy that runs through your body it is you   descend to the earth, you rise, and you rise as  high as you can go and then you cycle back around.   And that's actually what creates the physical  body. It's a byproduct of regular energy flow.   And so, if we allow it to ascend with the same  purity as it descends, no problems we live in   this perfected field and all as well. But most of  us are living in a state something like this. So,   we rise and there are areas of our consciousness  that have developed in areas that are still   sleeping. And so, this path of least resistance is  what happens. And we rise in this kind of wobbly   sort of way. And it causes a distortion in the  biofield, it causes a distortion in this flow.   And now this individual is looking out through  a distorted field. So, we see people that don't   care and lives that don't have opportunity.  And, and we just see in an obstructed manner,   because we're looking through a distorted field.  So, what we're doing with the energy codes is, is   working on building circuits here instead of these  gaps that we're circumventing along the way. So,   when you have a knot in your stomach, it's because  this energy is hitting right there. And then   it has to go around it, et cetera. If you have  tightness in your chest, the energy is hitting   there, if you have a lump in your throat, the  energy is hitting there. And it's, it's working   its way around. So, if when someone comes into  the room, you have a charge against, you know,   with something that they're doing, the reason you  have a charge on it is because you haven't really   awakened to all that you are. And so, you're  running on these, these compensatory pathways.   And so that is appearing to be a threat, when  actually if all of your circuits were animated,   and activated, you wouldn't see it as a threat at  all, you would see it completely differently. Same   person, same word, same actions, different effect.  So, we're working on, let's build the circuits.   So that we are sitting here in this perfected  system that is constantly reinventing itself,   and, and so forth. So, the way that we do  that is when somebody walks in the room,   if you have a charge and affects you in your gut,  differently than your throat or in your chest,   you squeeze it back, wherever it is, you  squeeze it back, you hug it on the inside.   And then you continue breathing as in the  ways that I'm teaching in the book, or that   I teach in the coursework and, and include it in  this central channel breath. Meanwhile, you're   anchoring yourself in the body so that you don't,  you know, just become so expansive and airy fairy   like you were mentioning earlier that if we don't  root and we don't ground, then we, if we expand,   then we have our tongue functioning. So, the  majority of the interest is on let's ground, let's   integrate, let's embody. And now let's find where  these gaps are in our awareness that we could   flood the energy to bring our consciousness into  and start breathing it awake, because what happens   is the layers of consciousness that comprise  the levels of the body, the chakra system, etc.,   are there just waiting to be animated, but perhaps  we're not aware that we haven't animated them.   So, the body is constantly trying to tell the mind  where we're living in wherever not, if it's stiff,   we're not living in there. If it's in pain,  we're not living in there. If it is, you know,   creating these reactive areas when circumstances  happen in our lives. Again, these are areas that   have not yet become animated inside of the  system of wholeness that we are. So instead of   getting up into our heads and asking the story, to  provide answers, we take our attention to the body   and let the body tell the mind, here's why. Here's  why you have a reaction to that. It's because   your power center is not even animated, you're not  even active there, you're circumventing that every   chance you get because of a pattern, a pathway  that was established early on in your life,   you went to the bus stop, you created  conversations that would bring people   into your life to challenge that. So that you  ultimately would find that you really need to do   some work right here. How do you know because you  got this knot in your stomach all the time? So,   so it teaches you how to deal with what you're  feeling in the body, instead of trying to heal   issues in the body, you're realizing that the body  has just been trying to tell the mind all along,   where we needed to work with our consciousness  as a team more readily, more consistently,   sooner. And so, it allows us to begin doing that  entrusting that the body is just revealing a   language of the soul that the mind alone couldn't  interpret. So, I approach it like the soul speaks   to the body and the body speaks to the mind.  And if we would, in the mind doesn't listen,   the minds busy writing stories. So, if  we just direct the mind to the body,   now we can start to learn at the mind level, the  level of the mind, this this language of the soul,   which will allow mind and body and breath  to, to integrate into this soulful self and   live the life that we're seeking to live >>Rick Archer: That's great. Let me hit   you with about four short questions and  have you answer them all at once. So,   let's say a person had been doing learn the energy  code, they've been doing it for about a year.   What does their daily routine look like? And  what kind of benefit would you expect the average   person to have achieved in your experience? And  also, what is your retention rate? How many people   and related to that? Do most people say yeah,  I can do this, or Some people say it's too   difficult, it's too complicated, things like that? >>Sue Morter: Beautiful. So, a regular routine is   somebody is walking around, they've learned  how to have one eye on the inside and one eye   on the path, that they're constantly listening to  the, the activations that the body is generating,   and they're constantly working with, with flowing  and energy through those areas. And they're   finding a greater relief in, in their lives from a  mental and emotional standpoint. So, anxiety and a   greater sense of wellbeing, physical things heal,  I healed migraine headaches, and a scoliosis in   my, in my system, which is what got my attention  to the degree that I started working with patients   even more so with it and clients and, and so >>Rick Archer: That was really interesting about   your scoliosis, you'd wake up in the middle of  the night, your body would be contorted into some   strange position, but it was like your body was  actually readjusting itself though, it was cool.  >>Sue Morter: When my mind was asleep and out of  the way, the body's starting to unwind and, and   heal. And so, people who are working and  walking with this, with these techniques,   are finding similar things, I get reports often  that, that they're waking up in the middle of   the night, there's nighttime yoga, I think is  has referenced in in the book, that they're in   these different, different contortions, because  they're breathing in this central channel. I've   several students that have been working with  this now for 7, 8, 9 years, 10 years, that are,   that are reporting all kinds of things,  changing relationships changing, their,   their ability to ask for what they want, and need,  their ability to realize that they don't need the   outer world to deliver these things, but that they  have it, finding this abundance within finding a   greater appreciation for who they are in the world  and having confidence to speak their truths and,   and to be out in the world in a way that that  they were feeling, you know, confined from or   separate from. And in so many beautiful ways, I  was just reading some cards this morning, just   tears in my eyes, just reading what's happening  in people's lives that that have just come in just   since the pandemic and what they're experiencing  and being so grateful for finding ways to deal   with this just by grounding and integrating  in these ways. So, I don't know, let's see,   what was the other question? So, what's Yeah, so >>Rick Archer: whether it's easy for people,   what kind of benefits they typically  would experience after a year,   what and what your attrition rate is, if you know, >>Sue Morter: Yeah, so, you know, I'm finding that   initially, people, people are very attracted  to the ideas and like things like the bus stop   conversation and the other principles that I'm  bringing in and learning how to breathe in the   belly and central channel breathing. And then  learning simple things like this Mula Bandha,   which is locking ourselves in at the root of  the spine, and in anchoring in the backside   of the heart chakra. And that they're, they're  immediately feeling a greater sense of self,   and presence. They feel that immediately. And  then they begin to, to realize that they can   apply it in all these different life situations,  where they're, they're not reacting emotionally,   but they're, they're knowing the practices that  they can do in an instant. And one of the things I   love about it, and that people report that they  love about it, is that the energy codes don't   require you to, to sit and do practices for an  hour a day, or half an hour a day. They're meant   to do while you're living your life, that that  they're meant for that because life is showing you   where and how and which ones to implement at any  given moment, because I developed them while I was   living my life. While I was trying to learn to get  back out into the world with this higher state of   consciousness and this newfound vibration. It  was embodiment that allowed me to do that. So,   I've just kind of retro engineered it. And I'm  teaching people how to expand their consciousness,   in the same way that I took this expansive  consciousness and climbed into my body,   we can open those same doorways to come up and  out in a more expansive way. But always remaining   tethered, you know, in the physical world, so that  these expanded, you know, realms can benefit us   while we're here in this life. So, so people stick  they stay, they love it. And, and sometimes people   come back that thought that it was too complicated  or that they couldn't, it really isn't complicated   once they start doing these four anchor points  and central channel breathing. It's home free.   And so, it's just about finding yourself living  inside this elevator shaft inside the body.   And oftentimes, people who haven't been meditating  or haven't been doing breath work or that type of   thing, think know, wow, what, but then it lands  for them and they get it. And the moment that that   happens, they're living in a different world. So >>Rick Archer: Could people learn it entirely from   the book or is it kind of necessary  to have a seminar of some kind?  >>Sue Morter: You know, I wanted to write  the book that it was self-contained,   that it definitely doesn't hold everything that  I teach in the seminars by far. For instance,   I teach about chakras one through seven in the  book. And in the courses, I go to eight, 9, 10 11,   and 12. And I start talking about concepts that I  felt were too much to put in an introductory book,   I'll write another book that carries more of that  content. But I had to know that this foundational   information was out there in this book form  that people could read and follow it from cover   to cover and have a self-contained body of work  that would be full and complete in its own way.   I didn't want to just write a teaser to make  people do something else. So, somebody could   read this book and, and have a treasure trove  of information that will serve them for their   lifetime. And if they want to know more, and they  get inspired, and, and are enthusiastic about it,   there is a lot of coursework that is available  that has all invented itself. I didn't sit down   and say, I want to teach six different levels of  coursework. And I'm going to teach this and this   and this and this, and the first one, and then  this and this, it just, I taught the first one.   And people were like, we want to do this again.  So, we did it again. And I taught it again. And   then they were like, well, what else do you know?  And so, I was like, okay, let's have a level two.   And then we talked level two, and they're  like, okay, what's next, and then it became,   you know, so, so creatively level three, and it  just birthed itself that way, just totally as   supply and demand, what people wanted to know, and  what I felt was beneficial. And what I was finding   was helping my patients change their lives. So,  so it is it there is the book is self-contained,   and there is so much more if it is a path and  a way of living that somebody wants to know   how to implement and activate in in additional  ways that is certainly available as well.  >>Rick Archer: So how long  have you been teaching it now?  >>Sue Morter: About 15 years? >>Rick Archer: Wow, that and the   book was a best seller in various ways. So, you  have any idea how many people have learned it?  >>Sue Morter: I don't, I don't, I know that we've  exposed it to probably I think that we've added   it up that because I also now teach people  to teach the work. And so, we're estimating   and our facilitators and our practitioners  that are out there, that that we've taught   probably close to about a million people that have  actually learned the work itself. And, you know,   we're just getting started as far as exposing and  really, really wanting to ground humanity. Because   these are times that this work was built for, I  know that that's why this awakening happened with   me when it did and that I'm here at this time  and, you know, doing my thing. That it's it is,   it feels like it's time is right now. Like, I feel  like I've waited my whole life to not that I was   waiting, but that right now is what it's for. And,  and it's so accessible and understandable and,   and in so easily integrated by people now. Things  that I used to have to explain for 45 minutes,   you know, in four minutes, people are like, got  it. It's like, Awesome, let's go to what's next.   So, what I'm finding, even since the pandemic and  teaching these courses online, is that I'm rolling   information forward and able to share with them  faster, because this collective is like, we're on   it, we're ready. So, I'm guessing that's great. >>Rick Archer: Nice. Well, as I said in the   beginning, you know, it's one thing  to have a spiritual awakening, but,   and a lot of people have them, but it's another  thing to be able to translate it into something   that can help others have one or help others, you  know, grow in certain ways. So, you obviously,   as you said, we're kind of destined for  this or made for this. And obviously it   comes naturally to you. And I think it's great. >>Sue Morter: It's my greatest joy. And I have   to say that this interview has been absolutely  blissful for me now. Thank you. It's probably one   of the best interviews I've ever had. So, thanks. >>Rick Archer:   Thanks. Feeling pretty blissful myself. >>Sue Morter: So, it's, I've always said   it's relative to the quality of the questions and  who's interviewing you like what you get to share.   And, and so thank you very much for  who you are, what you're doing and,   and how you are serving humanity. >>Rick Archer: Oh, you're welcome.   Thank you. Maybe we'll do another one  when you're on level 20 or something.  >>Sue Morter: Oh, I'd like that. >>Rick Archer:   So, let me just show your website, I'm showing  your website on the screen right now. It's   drsuemorter.com. Right? >>Sue Morter: Yes.  >>Rick Archer: So, people know what to do. They  can just go there and hop over to your website   and see what you have to offer. I'm sure you have  some Email list. Listen, there's various I noticed   there's a free meditation there. And so, people  will just explore that if they're interested.  >>Sue Morter: Thank you so much.  It's been my great pleasure.  >>Rick Archer: And let me just say that next week  I'll be interviewing David Lorimer. And David has   had a distinguished career. And among other  things, he's the head of something called the   Galileo commission. And it's named that because  Galileo couldn't get the church authorities to   look through his telescope to see the rings of  Saturn or whatever, which coincidentally are   actually showing on my screen right now. That's  an interesting thing. I have these all these   outer space pictures that just rotate on my as my  desktop picture, and there's the rings of Saturn.   But in any case, you know, he couldn't get them  look at it. So they went, they put them under   house arrest and threatened to torture him and  all this stuff, because he was suggesting that   the sun was the center of the solar system  and not the earth. And that was heresy.   So, there's a sort of a materialist paradigm  that dominates science these days, and scientists   are many of them are quite threatened by the  notion that consciousness may be fundamental,   and not merely some epiphenomenon of brain  functioning. So, the Galileo foundation talks   about this stuff. It has all kinds of seminars  and courses and whatnot. This year, I think is   very interesting. So that'll be next week, >>Sue Morter: Indeed. Sounds fantastic.  >>Rick Archer: Oops Saturn's gone. I'm looking  at some nebulae. All right. Well, thanks Sue.  >>Sue Morter: Absolutely. My  pleasure. Thank you so much.  >>Rick Archer: You're welcome. Talk to you later. >>Sue Morter: Okay.

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