Suburbia is Subsidized: Here's the Math [ST07]

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The biggest misunderstanding I’m seeing in this thread is that people defending suburbs think everyone else is calling for an end to detached single family homes and that’s not true. It’s SPRAWL not single family homes that are the main issue

It’s possible to have a walkable neighborhood that includes single family homes. I live in one, it’s great. It’s not ultra high density but I can usually walk to everything I need to. I generally only drive when I’m carrying a lot of food/beer or ironically enough going out to the suburbs where the transit sucks

A good metric for when it becomes a problem is when a car is a NECESSITY for anything

👍︎︎ 11 👤︎︎ u/cakenat 📅︎︎ Mar 14 2022 🗫︎ replies

Another point this creator consistently brings up (which I feel is one of the strongest arguments) is how car centric suburbia and city planning actively discourages our younger, elderly, and handicapped populations from being more independent and severely inhibits their autonomy on transportation options.

👍︎︎ 144 👤︎︎ u/trashcanpandas 📅︎︎ Mar 13 2022 🗫︎ replies

Wait, why did anyone bulldoze a block worth $900,000 and build something only worth $180,000?

👍︎︎ 79 👤︎︎ u/heelspider 📅︎︎ Mar 13 2022 🗫︎ replies

One thought I had while watching this was: we are seeing how US local politics influences property taxes. If property taxes were equitable the single family sprawl would be taxed way more, and taxes would be based on some cost-to-service algorithm rather than simple valuation. An approach like this would get financial incentives aligned with good urban planning.

Yet there are political barriers to that, namely:

  1. Those living in the car centric sprawl usually have outsized political power
  2. Those living in detached single family homes are the ones who directly see the property tax bill and get politically active about it specifically. Renters (and this includes both residential and commercial tenants) never see the property taxes because it gets baked into their rent and their activism/anger gets directed toward landlords and rent issues.

All told it’s politically much easier to balance the city budget on commercial/rental property taxes than single family property taxes, and to avoid a more equitable tax method that would make suburban style sprawl pay for itself.

👍︎︎ 12 👤︎︎ u/zoinkability 📅︎︎ Mar 14 2022 🗫︎ replies

This is part of an ongoing series by Not Just Bikes on how American-style suburbia bankrupts cities.

👍︎︎ 114 👤︎︎ u/Hyperspeed1313 📅︎︎ Mar 13 2022 🗫︎ replies

One thing the video doesn't explore, which would be important context, is where exactly is that revenue coming from in those net positive revenue areas. It wouldn't surprise me if those downtown areas generate a lot of their revenue from people who commute into those areas. There are definitely a lot of inefficiencies with suburbs but as presented it is not clear that the people in those areas are not shouldering more of the burden of that cost than presented in the video.

👍︎︎ 67 👤︎︎ u/Walden_Walkabout 📅︎︎ Mar 13 2022 🗫︎ replies

I truly don't understand the people in every Not Just Bikes thread that feel the need to defend North American suburbs as though someone pointing out that it's fiscally inefficient and wasteful is somehow an affront to them personally.

👍︎︎ 30 👤︎︎ u/freshballpowder 📅︎︎ Mar 13 2022 🗫︎ replies

Can say some counties in Florida are smart about this. A lot of services/costs/taxes are set locally. Even the streets are maintained locally. Need it re-paved? Your taxes will go up in the area and you have to foot the bill.

Florida has no state tax which helps with this as many local municipalities have to deal with it every day, not hope it fixes itself down the road.

Lafayette is not a typical city in the US at the end of the day as they do not have the same relations with parishes and cities like counties and cities in other areas. Still, the point holds, that city/parish is screwed because people are all in for making a quick buck over the next 5 years and love kicking the can down the road.

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/JustSaya 📅︎︎ Mar 14 2022 🗫︎ replies

The actual problem is that the city is not taxing land properly. The solution proposed is just calling for building more high density zones to offset the under taxed low density zones. The low density zones will still be subsidized by the high density zones but that budget will be balanced

The real problem is that land is taxed based on what is built on it. So areas with lots of buildings built on dense area of land will generate more tax revenue. But to the city what is actually built on the land doesnt matter that much, the infrastructure is similar. Instead of taxing property based on its improved value the city needs to tax property based on the actual land area used and zoning type. This way you can raise property taxes and large suburban plots with one family pay the same amount as an apartment building built on same area of land with couple dozen families

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/lordnikkon 📅︎︎ Mar 14 2022 🗫︎ replies
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[Music] this is the city of lafayette louisiana it's a pretty typical mid-sized american city like most american cities it has that one nice old building that didn't get bulldozed in the 60s and like most american cities it's broke it's full of aging infrastructure in desperate need of repair and not enough money to maintain it but unlike most american cities lafayette acknowledged this fact and requested the help of strong towns and urban three a consulting company that helped cities better understand the economic impact of development their analysis in lafayette uncovered a harsh reality that should be a wake-up call to every municipality in north america as well as any city emulating the american car centric style of development but let's back up a bit in a previous video in this series we discussed how two identical lots in the same city have very different property tax revenue in this example a 100 year old commercial block built in the traditional style of development drastically outperformed a shiny new development created in the modern car centric style but despite the differences in revenue both blocks have the same cost of the city to maintain their infrastructure so by bulldozing an old block of shops to build this car-centric second-rate taco joint the city was destroying its wealth this example alone should be enough to convince anyone that the modern car-centric suburban style of development is broken but it's worth exploring this further does this hold up in other cities and what happens when we bring into account the cost of servicing these properties with roads water pipes sewers etc and that brings us back to lafayette this is a map of the revenue and expenses data uncovered by urban three so what are we looking at well any successful business tracks its roi its return on investment when making a decision between two competing projects it's critical to know which one will result in the most revenue compared to the investment put into it and too many projects with a negative return on investment could bankrupt a company but in order to know your roi you need to know two things your revenue and your expenses urban three created a kind of municipal return on investment for lafayette this map shows the municipal revenue per acre so why per acre other than the fact that americans can't use metric well every property in a city needs services and the majority of services get more expensive the more spread out they are roads are the obvious example the farther a parcel of land is from everything else the more asphalt is needed to get there the worst case scenario are calls to sac which are basically just city subsidized driveways this also applies to water infrastructure sewers and all other physical infrastructure as well as the cost of policing fire department coverage and even the cost of providing education but while per area revenue is actually quite a good approximation urban 3 wanted to fully understand these expenses so they painstakingly calculated the cost of services for each parcel of land in lafayette it looks something like this this shows every area that's a net positive for the city in gray and every area that's a net negative in red and here it is in 3d this analysis has some fascinating results the first is that downtown is wildly profitable this is a bit surprising because there's nothing particularly remarkable about downtown lafayette it's certainly not bad but you'd never know from looking at these pictures that this is the economic engine of the city while places like this are a drain on city finances but this shouldn't be too surprising when you think about it because there's an insane amount of asphalt and infrastructure here for a very small number of shops and for some bizarre reason the google street view car drove down every aisle of this parking lot but since they did it over multiple years you can move down this way and watch the toys r us go out of business most of these profitable grey areas are the historical neighborhoods built along the river but one of the biggest spikes is this place a modern mixed use walkable neighborhood called river ranch places like this are a net positive for the city one of the most shocking discoveries that strong towns discovered is that the replacement cost of all of the infrastructure in lafayette something that you would expect to happen over about one generation was about 32 billion dollars and that's just infrastructure not all the other everyday costs needed to run a city yet the existing tax base was much smaller than that in order to bridge the difference strong towns calculated that the average family in lafayette would see their tax bill go from about one thousand five hundred dollars per year to nine thousand two hundred dollars per year but the median household income in lafayette was only forty one thousand dollars at the time there's simply no way that can happen but those simple averages are hiding the bigger picture of who's subsidizing who because these gray sections are the poorer areas while these red areas are significantly wealthier so here's a fun quiz which of these two neighborhoods is subsidizing the other number one or number two yeah it's the first one that's subsidizing the second the poorest people in lafayette are consistently subsidizing wealthy suburbanites but i don't want to pick on lafayette here as i said at the beginning there's nothing particularly unique about lafayette and these results are typical for most american cities well i guess in lafayette the suburban sprawl is built on former wetlands which results in unusually high costs for storm water management but otherwise it's pretty typical so let's look at another city that's not literally built on a swamp eugene oregon here's the urban 3 map of taxable value per acre once again downtown is clearly visible and here's the 3d map of revenue compared to expenses it's still obvious where downtown is but you might be wondering about this little bump over here this is crescent village a modern mixed-use development because once again these kinds of mixed-use walkable neighborhoods financially outperform car dependent suburbia every single time by the way here's what that 3d map of eugene looks like from below the red spikes correspond almost perfectly to modern car-centric suburban developments a visual reminder that car-dependent suburbia is being subsidized by productive urban places the data from urban 3 makes the subsidies visible and it makes it very clear who's subsidizing who in eugene urban 3 analyzed 9 categories of development residential mixed use and commercial in low medium and high density and here's what the average revenue for the city looked like after taking into account the servicing of these properties in the case of eugene the low-density suburban housing is being subsidized by everything else people may look at this and say but i want to live in a low-density single-family home and that's fine but only if you're also willing to pay for it but there's a bigger problem this is what the land use map looks like for eugene oregon the majority of land is zoned exclusively for single-family residential which means that the majority of properties in the city are a net negative to city finances and this is a pretty typical result for an american city when you see results like this is there any surprise that american cities are broke here's the tax revenue per acre for south bend indiana see if you can spot downtown or here in charleston south carolina or in saint paul minnesota and here's the entire state of new hampshire with all of the traditional downtown neighborhoods clearly visible in every case in every region urban 3 is analyzed traditional mixed use walkable neighborhoods dramatically outperform car-centric suburbia but in north america we've made it difficult or even impossible to build new neighborhoods this way because of modern zoning and other car-centric regulations of course these mathematics apply outside of america as well here's a map of auckland new zealand you can clearly see the increased city revenue along transit lines and you need to zoom out significantly to see downtown because it is so financially productive so what do we do with this information well our cities through their policies can decide what kind of developments they encourage the city of guelph in ontario canada not far from my hometown is an excellent example in 2013 guelph needed more room and like all canadian cities they were considering expanding their borders and sprawling but after running this kind of roi analysis they decided to focus on infill developments by making it cheaper and easier for developers to create buildings that encourage walkable neighborhoods like this one here's what the revenue per hectare because canada looked like for guelph in 2013 not bad in general canadian cities are better with their finances than american cities but here it is in 2016 and in 2019 this is what a financially solvent city looks like so which path will the financially struggling american cities choose for their future they can decide to make it easy to build mixed-use walkable neighborhoods making good use of land and encouraging walking cycling and public transit or they can build more of this garbage and go bankrupt seems like a pretty easy decision to me i'd like to thank my supporters on patreon who pay me to mathematically annihilate the suburbs in 3d if you like this kind of content check out strong towns and urban 3 and if you really like this kind of video visit patreon.com not just bikes you
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Published: Mon Mar 07 2022
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