Let's pay attention to whether AUKUS seems to be facing a crisis of breaking the defense now. Now Wang Yi has gone to Australia to have closed-door talks with some leaders in the business community . In fact, everyone is paying attention to the fact that this punitive tariff may be this. When will the main focus of the discussion be cancelled ? Of course Australia is very concerned. Now Wang Yi is going to hold talks with some Australian business people. There may also be good news coming out. Australia can finally lift the ban and can sell wine. Come again. I saw that Wang Yi said that China-Australia relations should not be interfered by third parties, referring to the United States. He said that we should stay on the right track and not go back. When Australian Foreign Minister Huang Yingxian met with Wang Yi , they also expressed a future cooperation strategy. Relations Wang Yi mentioned that the mutual trust between the two sides increases every time they see each other. Now China-Australia relations have taken a step forward. The economies of the two countries are complementary. Since China-Australia relations are on the right track, there should be no hesitation and we should continue to move forward without deviating. Going back, if we add one point and go forward, it may be that the Prime Minister of mainland China, Li Qiang, will visit Australia next. But now it seems that his level is not lower than that of Xi Jinping. Will he visit Australia ? You can see the trust level. If Xi Jinping has visited places and countries , it means that the meaning of trust may be different. In 2023, Xi Jinping visited countries such as Russia, South Africa, and Vietnam, which means that this may be the most trustworthy indicator for mainland China . Now in 2024 The news that is currently going to visit is Serbia and France. In other words, after Macron’s visit to mainland China last year, the mutual trust between the two parties may have increased a lot , so now it has reached a level where Xi Jinping can personally visit. It will be in May. The month should be Xi Jinping’s visit, but in May, Xi Jinping actually has one thing to be busy with, that is, Putin is going to visit mainland China. So it feels like this May will be the beginning of a series of actions in mainland China’s major power diplomacy in the new year. Now at the head of state level, we see that Biden is still quarreling with each other, whether it is the South China Sea or the Indo- Pacific . Now Blinken is visiting the Philippines , Wang Yi is going to New Zealand, Australia, China and the United States. At the same time, the White House is striving for cooperation with friends in the Asia-Pacific region . It was announced that the first tripartite summit between the United States, Japan and the Philippines will be held on April 11. Biden, Kishida and Marcos will gather in Washington. In addition, we also take a look at what mainland China is currently doing for India. Of course , there is still a conflict between the two countries at the border . India keeps shouting because although India is not in the ranks of this meeting, it is also considered a QUAD and is on the same side as the United States. He said that Arunachal Province is not allowed. Part of the partition is to say that mainland China's claims are ridiculous. They say that the border dispute between China and India is the most difficult challenge that India will face in the future since the rise of China itself. But look at it, India is constantly siding with the United States. Self-confidence is also constantly improving. Now India seems to show that they are a big country. One thing they said is that they bravely rescued 17 hostages. Their special forces raided the hijacked ship and forced 35 Somali pirates to surrender . Their first step in the rescue was The second step is to follow and monitor , including dispatching destroyers and patrol ships together. The second step is to continue surveillance from the air, including anti-submarine patrol aircraft and unmanned reconnaissance aircraft . The third step is to come across 2,000 miles to rescue and dispatch C17 transport planes. This, what, their elite troops are deployed. Then it traveled 2,600 kilometers and arrived at a pirate ship to raid and complete the rescue. However, outsiders seemed to say that India seemed a little too deliberate. Do you need to use advanced weapons such as P81 and C17 to deal with pirates who only have AK rifles ? So on the contrary, it was ridiculed by some military experts . Let's take a look. This matter is not over yet , because it is India. They said that this matter was mainly shown to China. Who is the boss of the Indian Ocean ? So they are like this When responding to emergencies at sea, they said that the ability to integrate sea and air defeated those who only posted flashy and propaganda-colored videos. Please tell me, who is this flashy video you are talking about ? What does this mean ? Who are they talking about? So after they celebrated this perfect success by pointing cannons at the AK pirates, they now have to say that they won and are now the boss of the Indian Ocean. India has also made a lot of rhetoric recently . For example He said that he would become the top five chip powers in the world within 5 years. Also , Indian Foreign Minister Jaishankar said that he would restructure the world order with China and not even look at the United States, right? Apart from China , it is you, India. Well, people think India's confidence is incredible. Let's ask the introduction teacher what he thinks about AUKUS. Now it has been breached. I think it means that in fact, Australia's largest trading partner is mainland China and Australia. The economic growth in the past 30 years has followed mainland China's reform and opening up. Why is this happening? That is, because China and Australia are geographically close and have a complementarity in their economic structures. In fact, China and Australia are bound to In terms of economic development, the two are partners , that is, natural partners. So you see in mainland China, during the reform and opening up, that is, when the economy was so fast in the past, the Australian economy was also growing rapidly because the industrialization of mainland China requires a lot of raw materials, raw materials, coal, iron, and even some of these rare materials. Metal Australia has them all, so in fact, in the past, iron ore was of great help to the steel-producing part of mainland China in the entire industrialization process . However, without the demand of the Chinese market, Australia's so-called raw materials would not be able to develop vigorously. There are so many agricultural products that I don’t know who to sell to. As for other agricultural products, of course, the most important ones are in mainland China and Australia, one in the southern hemisphere and the other in the northern and southern hemispheres . Their agricultural products are complementary to each other because the northern hemisphere produces the northern hemisphere. For example, these fruits or fruits that are harvested in the spring. Vegetables are gone in winter , but winter in the northern hemisphere coincides with spring in the southern hemisphere , so if you want to eat a certain vegetable or fruit all year round, it means that the northern and southern hemispheres complement each other. On the other hand, mainland China has always wanted this agricultural product. The so-called security of food in Australia, barley and corn, is endless. Such a big country has more than 7 million square kilometers of land and only has a population of more than 20 million. So in fact, in the past, under the Morrison government, which was the Liberal Party, there was no Before the trouble with mainland China, Australia's exports basically entered the single market of mainland China . In Taiwan, we also had a maximum of almost 40. Australia is such a big economy. 30 things were sold to mainland China , and later they were consumed in mainland China's market. This so-called change in categories. These Australian lobsters and these Australian wines are also selling well in mainland China. Australia only has more than 20 million people. Why does it have to produce so many? It must be an overseas market. Mainland China will provide them with overseas markets. However, the Morrison government is an enemy of mainland China. China has ordered high tariffs and banned these agricultural products, especially agricultural products. But after the current government takes office in May 2022, one of their biggest goals is to improve relations with mainland China. In the past two years, things have actually improved a lot. Only this time Wang Yi went to mainland China. Finally, the relationship between the two parties slowly returned to normal. I think it was in May this year. If Li Qiang is going to Australia, these are the last few items left in mainland China. The punitive tariffs on Australia, especially on wine and lobster, may all be cancelled . Then China-Australia relations will officially return to normal. In other words, the U.S. policy towards Australia will not be what it used to be. Australia will be asked for and asked by the United States. Let me ask Captain, China and Australia , China and New Zealand were friends before. Because of Morrison’s relationship with the previous Prime Minister Morrison, China and Australia became farther and farther apart. Now after Albanese took office, he slowly returned to this road because of friends. It can be re-established, but what is the relationship between New Zealand and Australia? New Zealand and Australia are close to each other, so they are brothers. What is the relationship between brothers? Brothers have no choice. But let’s take a look at New Zealand now. What is New Zealand talking about all day long? New Zealand says he wants to join the Belt and Road. Why does he want to join the Belt and Road? Because only after he joins the Belt and Road can his economy become more active . We usually only talk about the Belt and Road , but have we thought about it? A lot of economic corridors have been established along the Belt and Road . For example, the one we are seeing now is the economic corridor of China, Mongolia and Russia. This one is the one that everyone often hears is the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor. I was on our program before. It mentioned that we will soon see the South Pacific Economic Corridor. Now if the relationship between Australia and China gets better and better and New Zealand wants to join the Belt and Road Initiative, we will soon see the South Pacific Economic Corridor . As for the South Pacific Economic Corridor, Don't talk too much about India. Don't brag all the time. Just talk about how you built such a highway, the Sierra Tunnel. The Sierra Tunnel is indeed what they said, that is, it saves 12 kilometers of road and can provide 3,000 yuan a day. Vehicles passed through , but it must be said that this is the Southern Tibet region. When we talk about this place , in fact, it is the Southern Tibet region. The Southern Tibet region is originally from China . Don’t talk about it there and think that it was colonized by the British in the past. Then it was a colonial country , so it occupied the southern Tibetan area at that time. Now you, India, are a colonized country, and you have the southern Tibetan area. This is not the case , so we talk about it this way . In fact, you don’t have it , and you talk about it so much. What are you talking about? Why are you talking so much ? Come and see the latest thing, which is what is the most exciting thing in the world when it comes to space . That is, China launched the Yaogan 41 satellite. This satellite actually controls The area is the part of the Western Pacific , but there is another satellite here. What is this satellite? This satellite specializes in controlling the Indian Ocean. So when you see the way you fight pirates over there, the People's Liberation Army is laughing at you. You are just fooling around like that. Is it right to fight pirates? So who really has the last laugh is only China, you and India are actually far behind. Well, Committee Member Yuzhen, when we look at this , I don’t know if you have any impression of the news . It should have been last year or the year before . The cargo of airlines from Taiwan, especially Taipei, to Kinmen and Matsu is almost unable to carry the things we Kinmen folks want. Do you know what they transport by air? They are all lobsters . Do you still have the impression that the entire air transportation from Matsu to Kinmen was very expensive at that time? So the prices are relatively high. Every day, a lot of lobsters are shipped to Matsu and Kinmen. Why are they done like this? It’s because mainland China and Australia had this at that time. Australia is not going to join these alliances related to the United States and then let it impose some tariffs on its lobsters and red wines. There are also restrictions on trade barriers. Therefore, these things in Australia are still relatively good , regardless of red wine or red wine. At that time , the demand for lobsters in mainland China was still very strong, so a lot of lobsters were transported by air to Matsu, to Kinmen , and then from Kinmen to Matsu, many ships were sent there like this . At that time, it caused a big incident, that is, at that time, the local area This is especially true when Matsu says that there are so many lobsters in a day. Matsu eats so many that they take them to the sea to feed the fish. In fact, this is what happens when they are shipped to the mainland. This means that in fact, the mainland does it. For Australia, an importing country that imports these agricultural products or aquatic products, its demand is very large , so Australia is relatively strong in this, even in certain military alliances, perhaps because the United States is also the world's most powerful country , so it puts these Countries in the Five Eyes Alliance are pulling together like this , but the Australian people and the Australian government still want to slowly make good relations with mainland China based on their economic and pragmatic considerations . In fact, it is not just Australia. Look at us. Look at General Secretary Xi. He wants to He will go to France in 2024. This year he may go to France. France, Europe, and some countries are gradually different from the United States. The competition between China and the United States is one of the recent ones . Even though they are competing because the United States is also having elections , even though they are competing , For example, they used to compete in various areas such as military, technology , and diplomacy , but an agreement they just expired a while ago was an agreement on some technologies . In fact, the United States said on the surface that it banned many, many, many, but in fact the agreement was very low-key. The land signed another six months later , which basically means that there are still many things that need to be discussed and cooperated between the two major powers. He just said that the direction of the entire United States has changed. He said that he used to think it was competition, but now it is a little bit very. Afraid that mainland China may become very powerful because it may exceed its position, so it has been blocking the CCP in various places. Many things in mainland China cannot be blocked unilaterally . However, there are many things in the world that cannot be blocked unilaterally . For example, economic things such as this The wisdom of people in science and technology sometimes means that if you try to block it, there is no way to develop like this . Therefore, the mainland is now slowly developing an internal circulation economy. Let’s take a break from the commercial and come back soon to see the President of China. Xi Jinping specifically went to Changsha, Hunan Province to investigate and inspect a Sino-foreign joint venture battery materials company. On the afternoon of the 18th, he went to Changsha City, Hunan Province to inspect the battery materials company here . He also specifically mentioned that it was a joint venture. This rapid development of new productive forces has been a term I have been hearing recently , so they say it is equivalent to setting the tone for Xi Jinping. We also know that Xi Jinping was also very important in the past , and he also gave a boost to the rise of the Ningde era . Now the share price of CATL has also jumped due to its very strong performance in 2023 , and it also distributed this special dividend . Their net profit last year was RMB 44.12 billion . The company generously announced that it would distribute a dividend of RMB 22 billion , so the company probably researched It is planned to distribute annual cash dividends and special cash dividends for every 10 shares. The total total will now reach approximately 22 billion yuan. Affected by the news of this huge dividend, CATL’s stock price has soared, rising by 5.5% to reach 190 yuan. The current total market value It has reached RMB 840 billion , so it is equivalent to saying that people have already called Ningde Times and called him King Ning. This has significantly increased dividends. Let’s see what Fortune magazine said about Fortune’s Chinese website. He commented on Ningde Times’s substantial increase in dividend ratio, which also implies A The new energy industry with the most growth potential has begun to stop involution because it does not need to continue this, which means that it means to transfer the money to investment in a large amount. Instead, it can use dividends to mean that the situation has stabilized. The head has then stabilized. It seems that he said that spring is probably coming , and not only the Ningde era, the entire new energy industry should have stabilized. Let's take a look at the European and Japanese industries . There seems to be less to write about the European and American industries. An American, European, American and Japanese industry is now about to be defeated. American electric car Fisker is rumored to have stopped production again. This year's stock price has collapsed by 90%. Bloomberg said that now it is facing the strong low-priced electric cars coming to the mainland , which has brought great benefits to American consumers. Hope , but it keeps the established car companies awake at night because mainland China has such a high CP value. Not only American consumers, but consumers all over the world are eager to say that if such energy vehicles can be cheap and good, everyone wants to try them. For example, in Taiwan , many people are waiting for BYD. However, due to political factors, many people are unable to see the emergence of BYD this year . You see that consumers in the United States are also looking forward to it. Ford's business executives talked about China. Mainland China’s electric vehicles are a huge strategic threat. Even the giants of American hedge funds say it is heartbreaking to see BYD surpass Tesla. This change is a warning signal to Western countries and they need to formulate strategies to deal with the low prices of Mainland China. From their point of view, the challenge of electric vehicles is that they are cheap . From our point of view, the high CP value has good functions and is cheap. American professors say that if you can’t beat them, then join them. In fact, I think they may have overcomplicated this matter because when Tesla entered the industry in mainland China, BYD did not call it BYD like this, nor did it say that Tesla was going to take us. How come the opposite is true when BYD wants to enter the US market? Americans need to scream like this. Next, the CEO of Renault in France said that we in Europe need to cooperate with the Chinese to become the leading generation in the electric vehicle industry. The national study means that the electric vehicles in mainland China are now one of the leading representatives in the world . So you are closing the door to mainland China. This is a very bad response. We should speed up the development of electric vehicles in Europe. Popularization has kept up, cooperated with the Chinese and found a way to deal with them . Then we see that Nissan and Honda are now joining forces to deal with electric vehicles in mainland China. The Japanese media says it is too late and feels very unfavorable about BYD. Now they are starting to form a group. After the battle, we saw BYD’s latest video. Let’s take a look at it. They have released a new proposition, which is green technology and tomorrow’s use of light to create energy. They even have a solution for obtaining and storing energy. They even have a video for everyone to watch. If you can’t drive BYD, come and see how beautiful the light show in their car is . This is a light show of BYD Han. When you see it, it’s really different . So now the price of electric cars in mainland China is very high. It's so fierce that 60% to 70% of brands may be eliminated. Now there are some of them. Even the industry in mainland China feels that BYD is really menacing. There is no way to resist it, so just blacklist it. So we see this inside of BYD. Just shout out , don’t be a gangster, we should work together. Wang Chuanfu actually said in the past that he didn’t originally have such a big dream , but was forced by life. So gradually, how did he fight hard ? Let’s listen . Let’s ask. What does Mr. Jie think about the new energy war between China and the United States? China and the United States are not rivals at all . Because you have to know that the main new energy sources are photovoltaic, which is called photovoltaic in China, solar power generation , and then there are wind power and other so-called Of course, the most important renewable energy sources are solar energy and wind power. Mainland China is among the best in the world. The other one is the energy conversion of the car itself. The energy conversion from fuel to battery is because every fuel engine itself is a When it is emitted, it is a consumable of fossil energy. It all creates greenhouse gases . However, electric vehicles are so-called clean energy and also renewable energy. They use electricity. This electricity is basically the core of electric vehicles. The core is the battery , so the most important technology of electric vehicles is battery technology. There are several key points in this. The first is that your battery must have a strong endurance. The second is that the charging time must be short. Now basically, the battery in mainland China is probably full. A car can travel about 550 to 600 kilometers at a time. Although some new products , such as CATL or BYD, say they can charge up to 1,000 kilometers at a time or something, they are still under development and are only available on the market for about 500 to 600 kilometers. The second question is how long does it take to charge once ? Some people need to charge it for 2 hours, some people charge it for half an hour. Some people say that it can be fully charged in 15 minutes. This is where the technology is . Now all the advanced technologies The technology is completely in the hands of mainland China , and the battery industry in mainland China has become a so-called economy of scale , so its cost can be controlled . According to statistics from last year to the third quarter of 2023 to the third quarter, China is probably in the top 10. Famous battery factories. Among the top 10 battery factories in the world, China accounted for 6. The total output accounted for 62.9 of the world. This was only in the third quarter of 2023 last year. So by now, it may be further advanced , because this is basically what you Evergrande, the bigger one, has more R&D funds. Recently, a Tesla car in the United States couldn't charge its battery at 30 degrees Celsius. The battery should be from South Korea , because I just mentioned that there are 4 out of 6 companies. 3 are from South Korea and 1 is from Japan. Some of Tesla ’s cars use Korean batteries, so I think if you use Korean batteries at 30 degrees Celsius or -30 degrees Celsius, the battery won’t be able to charge. Then there’s no way to compete with Chinese batteries. Let me ask the captain. It is not a recent thing that mainland China has started to develop electric vehicles. I went to the Shanghai World Expo in 2010 and took our whole family there. At that time, mainland China had already begun research on Wang Chuanfu. What we are talking about is how buses can become electric vehicles, reduce exhaust emissions, and then turn them into new energy sources . Let’s take a look at this last year, which is the first six months of 2023. It means that the number one sales rate of these electric vehicles is BYD . Take a closer look at the number of 1,191,405 units. I just remembered our host talking about Fisker. It means how many units were produced last year. 1,300 units is just a fraction, just a fraction. What is the situation of this fraction ? In fact, China There is a more powerful one in mainland China that has not yet been sent to other countries , but some people have imported it. What is Laotoule low-speed electric car? Laotoule. I have seen it on YouTube, which is a low-speed electric car. It was directly introduced to the United States by Americans and driven there. They thought it was great and easy to charge , and the driving distance after charging was also long. They thought it was very sunny and had air-conditioning . They thought it had no speakers but also had speakers and everything. In fact, it was a complete car . Now Europe and the United States are assuming that all kinds of leaks and information will be leaked, and there are a lot of reasons. In fact, it is to create a trade barrier. What should be avoided with this trade barrier ? All electric vehicles in mainland China should be avoided. Once they come in, their vehicles will no longer be affected by what we just mentioned. Mercedes-Benz and BMW are completely uncompetitive, so we must say this. Wang Chuanfu said that back then, it was forced by life. Now it is national competition, but we have seen that in the end, we will be far ahead . Committee member Hao Yuzhen, I think of mainland China, I think of it. When I was there in 1996, it was true that it was 1996, an era when oxcarts, Mercedes-Benz cars, and bicycles were moving forward together. At that time, I was at Peking University , and now in the past 20 years , but in the past 20 years or so, after a generation, the entire development has advanced by leaps and bounds. It’s so advanced that even Trump, the President of the United States, is very afraid of being elected. He said that if he is elected, cars imported into the United States will be subject to 100% tariffs . Secondly, you have seen that the Internet has begun to spread some information recently, saying this. It means that China can drive as many cars as possible at the same time, and American cars can shut down at the same time. In fact, this is because the United States is doing something like this . Because it cannot defeat others , it has to start preparing to make some foundations and erect some trade barriers . Indeed, it is here. What we need to pay attention to when doing this is that, from our perspective, Taiwan is fine. Let’s look at Taiwan. It’s a pity that the situation on both sides of the Taiwan Strait is not that good because of cross-strait competition . And because the ruling party is hostile to China, we Now, in fact, it is not allowed to import cars from mainland China. But of course, it is a pity that our consumers cannot enjoy cheaper and better products. This is a pity that we have worked very hard to protect us in the past. But after all, the automobile industry should be the direction that big countries want to develop. Because of this first demand, and secondly, in terms of technical energy, there is also a lot of research and development. Like mainland China, it is true that there are more talents and the market is larger , so it is more likely to go there. Going forward , of course, there are quite a lot of electric vehicles in mainland China competing in this way , but there will be a kind of elimination. Come on, welcome to this stage and join us in the discussion. Guests, former Ambassador Ji Wen, Ji Zhaiyi, hello, friends, hello, Legislator Chen Yuzhen , hello everyone. Former navy captain Lu Lishi, host, hello, viewers, please take care of this Kinmen fisherman immediately . The two lost fishermen have a long way to return home. It was yesterday. I originally said that they would be released, but because of the Lu I discovered that during their identity verification, one of the men surnamed Hu was an active soldier. However, there was also a report that the man surnamed Hu admitted that he was an active soldier when he was interviewed . Let’s take a look at the Political Warfare Director of the Ministry of Finance and Defense. He said It was not confirmed whether the anglers were active military personnel. It only said that the two anglers were from Kinmen. But now it is also reflected that the relationship between the two sides of the Taiwan Strait will become more tense after the incident on February 14th , because if we It is indeed very sensitive to go to mainland China as a soldier , and after the boat capsized in Jinxia waters, the two mainlanders were the fishermen on the fishing boat. They still cannot get their bodies back, so the deadlock is still here . Let’s take a look at the United Nations. The newspaper editorial mentioned that Guan Biling caused an attack by the coast guard of mainland China. Now, Lai Qingde, can you drive her away? Can you drive her out? Because Guan Biling did not properly handle the fishing boat incident at the first time , and now Kinmen has no jurisdiction over restricted waters. It was damaged and now it has become a very headache for the coast patrol. Once the main waterways and ports have mainland coast guard and this fleet patrolling our Taiwan's natural gas and crude oil imports , can they still flow unimpeded ? Do you, Lai Qingde, have the answer? Then we Let’s take a look at the two Kinmen fishermen this time. They went fishing on a boat at 11 a.m. on March 17 and lost contact near Beiding Island. They were rescued by the coast guard of mainland China in the Weitou area of Fujian and were later rescued on March 17. On the 19th, it was discovered that one of the men surnamed Hu may be an active soldier. The Ministry of National Defense has not made any statement in the past two days. What kind of trick is this? Is it possible that mainland China will use the National Security Law to serve you? See There is a discussion on mainland Weibo about the two anglers rescued by a mainland coast guard ship. One of them was a Taiwanese military sergeant stationed in Kinmen . Were they spies here to collect intelligence? They have such questions and concerns. That reminds everyone of the deserter incident that also broke out on Erdan Island in Kinmen on August 19 last year. We still don’t know the whereabouts of the soldier surnamed Chen. So if there happened to be two anglers this time If one of them is a soldier, I'm afraid it will be more difficult to deal with. On the other hand, everyone is also talking about Tsai Ing-wen, should you go to Taiping Island before leaving office? The Democratic Progressive Party is now overwhelmingly talking from top to bottom about those who dare to shout this. People are called CCP passers -by. But we want to say why? Why are you called CCP passers-by when you go to Taiping Island ? Then look at their tone. Now look at the director of the International Department of the Democratic Progressive Party. He said that because the situation in the South China Sea intensified in March, the whole world is Pay attention to this maritime conflict between China and the Philippines When the Kuomintang comments on sensitive international issues, they have to do their homework first and read international news online. This makes us very confused. If their reason is just because we originally wanted to say why they are always unwilling to go , it seems that this matter is just unwilling to die. After talking about it , I found out that it was because of the tension in the South China Sea. If I didn’t go because of the tension in the South China Sea, what if there was tension in the Taiwan Strait? I really want to ask this question. If there was tension in the Taiwan Strait , would Tsai Ing-wen have to leave first? It is a dangerous place and a tense place. Tsai Ing-wen can't go or stay. Is it because Tsai Ing-wen should take the first step when the tension in the Taiwan Strait is tense ? Let's ask according to your logic. Next, let's take a look at Wu Zhaoxie's statement. With the current controversy rising, we in Taiwan must think about what to do. Promote peaceful ways to resolve disputes in the South China Sea instead of letting people think that Taiwan is causing difficulties again. In other words, if we go to the South China Sea, it will create difficulties for whom? Wang Dingyu said that the head of state will inspect or use specific political methods to prove Taiping Island. It is our territory. This will not take into account the national interests between international allies and Taiwan, so we must consider this before deciding whether it is suitable to go to Taiping Island. In other words, if we translate it into vernacular, what he means is us. We should first consider whether the interests of the United States and the Philippines are higher than those of Taiwan. If you want to say that we have to go and see if the United States will embarrass the Philippines, will it embarrass the Philippines? Then we will judge whether we can go to Taiping Island. Isn’t that ? It’s a place we should go to, isn’t it? So now the Green Committee or Wu Zhaoxie’s lectures make people feel strange and unreasonable. Then look at this Ma Wenjun now saying that we should go to inspect Taiping Island in May. On the 16th , some members of the current blue camp shouted out that if Tsai Ing-wen doesn’t go, we can go on our own . Look at the conversation between Wang Dingyu and Wu Zhaoxie . Wu Zhaoxie said that Taiping Island is within the scope of Taiwan’s sovereignty. There is no doubt about it. There is no doubt that it is absolutely our sovereignty. No matter what method is used, Taiping Island belongs to Taiwan's sovereignty. After shouting like this, okay, are you going ? It seems that you are not going. Since you are not going, Ma Wenjun said, since Tsai Ing-wen has not announced whether After landing on the island , Ma Wenjun said that in exercising the responsibilities of the convening committee of the National Defense and Diplomacy Committee, he would schedule an inspection of Taiping Island. Xu Guoyong shouted now , "Otherwise, if you have the guts, go by boat instead of taking a plane. Is it because of this incident? " You can’t stand up , you’re so anxious and you’re shouting , otherwise what are you doing? You’re trying to turn this story around in this choking way. Let’s stop talking about this topic . Let’s first ask what Councilor Yuzhen thinks about this. If the fisherman from Kinmen is really a soldier, will it be very difficult to deal with? The first one can be seen from this that our waters in Jinmen are really very close to each other for more than 1 kilometer, so it is very close. I have seen this for several weeks from 0214 Fishermen from this mainland passed away in this sea area , and then a while ago, fishermen from the mainland disappeared. We went to search and rescue. I should have assisted in the search last week , and we rescued 2, 2 survived, 2 passed away , and 2 have not been found. We found them on March 19. Of course , I will go down and see if I can help them again. Last Sunday , we had 2 anglers. They were really anglers. I really want to emphasize this because I also know their families and they are really anglers. Then I went fishing on the sea and got lost because of the heavy fog in Kinmen that day. I was later rescued by the mainland’s coast guard, so my status as a soldier is really not the same thing as this. There are many people in Kinmen , no matter where you work, for example. I work in a gin company or you just ask what kind of job you do. Do you have vacation ? Fishing in Kinmen is a leisure and entertainment activity. Many people go fishing on the sea, and there are also some who fish by themselves here. Some people fish for their own use , which means that they can still catch fish. It can be sold and it is also called a slash , which means fishing is correct , but can soldiers get on a boat and go fishing like this? Is this in compliance with the regulations? I have not heard that it is not allowed. I may have to ask about that. I haven’t asked the Ministry of National Defense . There should be no special regulations because usually This kind of leisure and entertainment is like playing table tennis or something like that , because this is actually your leisure and entertainment, as long as you don’t break the law, you can fish in legal waters. Many people in Kinmen are fishing. There are probably many, many, many, many, and I participate. During the fishing festival, there are hundreds of people who usually go out to sea for fishing. During the holidays, he must have gone fishing during his vacation, so I thought there was nothing wrong with this behavior . Then I went on to tell him his identity because the weather was bad that day . When I got to the mainland , I was rescued by the mainland, so I became more sensitive . Now is the time when cross-strait relations are relatively tense, so I have become very sensitive. Otherwise, in the past, there were probably a lot of things like this between Kinmen and the mainland. I also said before that we have a relationship. The director also went fishing. The director went fishing , but unfortunately he capsized and died. After he died during the epidemic, he drifted to the mainland. He also drifted because Weitou was relatively close. He drifted to Weitou . After he was picked up, he would be notified. our side Later, during the epidemic, it was not allowed to travel, so the ships on both sides were handed over in the middle line like this, and his body was brought back. It did not become a big news. It was said that this could not be done during the epidemic , but many things between Jinxia and Xiamen were because they were too close. In fact, many things were resolved through communication between the two sides and cross-strait communication. This matter was originally agreed to be sent back . Later, it was discovered that the relevant identity may need to be further investigated and disclosed. What is the situation ? But I have been assisting in contacting this matter in the past two days because the Taiwan Affairs Office of the State Council has said that the person will be released. I was also in contact with Beijing yesterday , so I think this may take a little time to investigate , but I think the matter will always be resolved. Yes, it will go smoothly . Don't make things like this too big. It seems that you, like the Ministry of Finance, are not willing to talk about it. Just say that I hope this is calmer. If it is not in this time and space , it will be handled faster. In fact, that's right. If all matters include the death of the two mainland fishermen, if it was handled by our place at the beginning , it would have been handled. That is to say, the boat was unable to send them back after they passed away. Then they sent a boat to pick us up and send them back because they were too close to me. When we say that Jinxia is close, it is like the distance from Tamsui to Bali. There are always things coming and going. It is very close. Many things often happen. Many , many things are dealt with in this way . I say we are a family, and we are all holding a family. I 'm dealing with this matter in my mind , so I don't think it's particularly special, and I won't say it's very sensitive. As for what you said just now, I saw that you also mentioned the matter of the second soldier, the second soldier, the upper soldier, and that matter. That 's really not the case at all. In the same way , he is really a deserter, but this is really different. He is really himself. He wants to run there by himself because he has some debts that everyone knows about , and then he has to run there by himself . Of course, his situation is the same as this. Anglers and fishermen are completely different in fishing. Let's ask the introduction. I think the Ministry of National Defense has not confirmed the identity of this soldier. I don't know what the considerations are. To be honest, his answer seems to be a bit unanswered . He said this without answering. He said that both of them were Kinmen fishermen and Kinmen folks . However, he did not say whether any of them were soldiers because Kinmen folks also have military status. When I was serving in Kinmen at that time, he was the deputy director of our center. I am from Kinmen , so when someone asked him if he was a soldier, he said that both of them were from Kinmen. So to be honest, it feels like it is unfair to ask us to guess riddles in our current public service agency . If he said that you are a soldier today, he The army should know why they know because they have to do roll call every day and they have to do roll call later, right? Do they do roll call early and do roll call late ? Don’t you know who is not there? So I think in this , I think if they can’t find out, then it’s really possible that the person ran away. He didn’t know, but later because of the news from the mainland, if he knew, it would be that our current military discipline is really what those of us who were soldiers would think, how could such a thing happen ? This military discipline is really broken. Of course, we still hope that these two of us are currently The fishermen you said should come back quickly. If you are going out to fish, if you are carried there by the sea water and the tide, then bring it back. On the other hand, Tsai Ing-wen should not go to Taiping Island. To be honest, the reason is very simple . It all depends on the attitude of the Americans, right ? And now who , including Wu Zhaoxie and Wang Dingyu, seem to have brought the Philippines in ? Does it mean that whether Tsai Ing-wen wants to go to the Pacific, it also depends on the attitude of the Philippines, right? More and more, how do you say it ? The more spineless we are, the more we have to look at other people’s faces to decide whether we want to go to our country’s territory. This is really unjustifiable. On the other hand, to be honest , the more important it is that at this time , when there is an international dispute over our territory, the head of state of any country must be the first to go. If you go to claim the country's territory along the Taiping Island today, if people have objections to Taiping Island today, you wo n't go there. In the future, if people have opinions about this and Kinmen, you won't dare to go to Kinmen. You wo n't dare to go to Matsu. This is not what a politician should do. The basic attitude, especially Tsai Ing-wen's basic attitude, is that she has no idea how she should move forward and retreat. Tsai Ing-wen, Wu Zhaoxie, and Wang Dingyu, I suggest that they should receive American salaries instead of Taiwanese salaries. The salaries of the Republic of China are such that these people are so very, very angry. I feel very, very angry that Tsai Ing-wen did not go today. Even Chen Shui-bian is more principled and courageous than her. But I think there is a reason for Tsai Ing-wen not to go. She is basically What do you mean by that one? It's completely different from her blowing air-conditioning in the air-conditioning room every day and riding in her bulletproof car everywhere with majesty. Going to Taiping Island by plane takes 4 to 5 hours one way and 4 to 5 more to come back. It was very bumpy that day . If the weather was bad and there were wind and waves, I think she couldn't bear the hardship and had to ride a clouded leopard. For the other one, I think being so afraid of the United States this time really made me doubt her even more. The doctor is really fake. It's very good. Let's ask the captain about this. One thing that the president is unwilling to confirm is that our runway is not long enough for that kind of private charter plane to land. Otherwise , President Tsai might be willing to go because 130 is actually not comfortable to sit on , and as the ambassador just said, it takes 4 hours. Moreover, our Taiwan is no better than Indonesia. Indonesia has more than 1,600 islands. Jokowi has not yet resigned. It is impossible for him to visit all the 1,600 islands , but the only ones we can go to in the South China Sea are two islands, one is Dongsha and the other is Taiping Island. If you don’t go, how are you going to explain that you are the President of the Republic of China, or are you really? You are just the president of Taiwan, you are not the president of the Republic of China. If we look at it from the perspective of international maritime law, we actually have water on Taiping Island and can live on it . That is to say, what should apply is that we have 12 nautical miles of territorial waters and then there are 200 nautical miles of economic waters , but if we don’t go there now and we can’t prove this, then we will become an artificial island. Artificial islands are nothing. You don’t even have the qualifications for territorial waters . The first one is that we turn around and look at the mainland on the other side. How does it operate? This is the first Subi Reef we saw . Subi Reef used to be all stilt houses. Look at it now. It has a standard runway . And their runway used to be used by Airbus 320s and Boeing 737s. They were able to land even after the above test. Their stewardess is still on their monument comparing YA. They came to Subi Reef and then there is Fiery Cross Reef. This is Fiery Cross Reef. Let’s see how the former Fiery Cross Reef grew like this. In fact, it’s about It is the size of a small passenger car. Now it has become like this. It is also a runway of 3,000 meters. This is how we operate the South China Sea. We are the president and cannot go . If the president does not go , if she really talks about today Let’s look at our Taiping Island, which is blue in the middle. We are surrounded by the three islands of Subi Reef, Fiery Cross Reef and Mischief Reef. If you say this, you have safety concerns, I believe everyone can understand, but you, Wu Zhaoxie I keep talking about sovereignty. I keep talking about sovereignty. Why don't you talk about the source of sovereignty? Why don't you talk about Taiping Island as our territory? You don't talk about it. Then you talk about where sovereignty comes from. Then do n't you talk about being the bravest in the country? First Yong said that if you have the guts, just go by boat. So what ? Why go by boat? Let’s take a look. The Ministry of National Defense has a National Defense Education Nansha Training Camp every year , and there are 3 schools in one batch. A school can send 7 people and then there are 4 levels a year, that is, 84 teachers and students from universities go to Nansha a year . Are you not the most brave in the country? Are you the most brave in the country? Is it just talk or are you not as good as these? One year , 84 students and teachers go to Nansha to see what our southernmost country looks like. So it’s actually very easy to take a boat. Why is it because the Ministry of Defense sent them ? If it’s called Lafayette, that one is the Love Boat. They used to talk about love. Because it is a French-designed ship , it is very suitable for humans to live on it. It is actually a little different from the American Perry-class combat ships, so we have to talk about it this way. Of course, what we are saying is that Commissioner Ma Wenjun just takes a boat if he gets hard. It’s only been 9 days back and forth. It’s only been 9 days. Let’s take a break from commercials and be right back.