Steph Curry on Durant, LeBron, untold Warriors stories & best teams ever | The Draymond Green Show

what's up everybody it's draymond green make sure you subscribe to the volumes youtube channel below so you don't miss any more of this great content going forward what's up everybody welcome back to the draymond green show we are actually live here at chase center we're not live but we're live here at chase center in the bridge club as you can see with the three championship trophies in the back and i personally wanted this location for this shoot because of today's guests which i am thrilled and excited as hell to have um i've been they've told me to stop cursing i'm excited as [ __ ] about having steph curry today um but let me introduce him the right way because i can't just come on here and act like you know this my man's i don't have to do the proper introduction so there goes the laundry list three-time nba champ well let's rewind a little bit because this is actually going to be a topic seventh overall pick in the 2009 draft drafted right after minnesota picked ricky rubio and johnny flynn note that we'll talk about that later three-time nba champ two-time mvp eight-time all-star four-time first-team all-nba two-time second team all nba one time third team all nba two-time nba scoring champ most made threes all time 317 threes and counting most threes in the season 402 it's probably most than i've had in my career but we'll talk about that another time and then the last one is irrelevant we're not going to even talk about that one step what's up my brother welcome to the show it's so weird hearing that from you i appreciate it absolutely um i mean and starters since since we are discussing that you're drafted by this with the seventh pick by the golden state warriors rumor has it that you never wanted to play for the golden state warriors can you help me understand that yes uh taking me back so like the draft is always weird just because you have a plan or you think you know where the best fit is and especially when you know in the lottery kind of situation you kind of know who you're kind of side against from other counterparts at the same position i always wanted to go to new york that was it like i was trying to find my way there mike d'antoni was there uh danielle galinari our future or past but future at the time teammate david lee like it was supposed to be like the run and gun type phoenix 2.0 offense and i was supposed to be a point guard there and they kind of sold me on that dream but they had the eighth pick so i wanted to go there i didn't work out for golden state i didn't come out here before the draft i talked to larry wright the then gm in chicago at the pre-draft compound for dinner once talked to don nelson once and that was that was really it um saying minnesota like they had the five and six picks so i was like all right if i just get past five and six cool i'm gonna be in new york that's gonna be dope and everything that i imagined the nba to be in the fit was gonna be there and then uh larry riley and don nelson had a plan seventh pick came around uh called my name i had like mixed emotions because like i said you know his dream come true it don't matter where it is but i was like that was not on my radar i was like careful what you wish for and you know i got a plan so uh 13 years later i'm still out here still here you know what's what's crazy about that is um when i when i was going through the draft process i'm as you know i'm a very deep thinker yeah i'll be i spent my pre-draft in the east lansing so driving to the airport when i'm headed off for a workout which i know y'all caught a little lottery flex in there i don't don't act like nope don't forget all about i say when i got the envelope to go to the green room don't not for one second think that wasn't a low-key shot that was definitely a shot but i'll take that one on the chin um but i'm driving back and forth to the to the airport from east lansing to free drive workouts yes and i had 20 workouts so yeah it wasn't like i made this drive twice i made this drive probably 13 times and i'm riding and i'm thinking about the whole process and as i'm riding i'm thinking to myself like where are all the places i would go and like i've told the story before i had a promise from indiana i had a promise like if i was still there memphis would take me miami would take me all these teams that told me if i was still there they would take me none of them did but i'm driving and i'm thinking to myself like where am i going to end up and i kid you not i thought to myself one day like i don't know where i'm going to end up but i do know and i literally had to start but i do know i just won't end up in the state of california okay and i'm not sure why i had that thought it wasn't even about the pick number it's just there's it wasn't the pick number it wasn't the lakers the kings the warriors the clip it wasn't it was just i don't think i'm going to end up in the state of california for me that was a big deal i had never lived outside of the state of michigan you know so that was a big deal for me but i just never thought i'd end up here so to hear that you didn't want to come here i just can't say that i didn't necessarily want to come here i didn't have that choice wherever i was going to go i needed to go straight up but i had no idea that i would end up out here yeah and like you said 13 years later 10 years later i'm still sitting here for real and like you grew up in michigan north carolina like i came to l.a once or twice and never been to the bay up until my junior year college i played my last game here at st mary's against patty mills and um the saint mary gayles that was the first time i'd ever been here we stayed at the walnut creek marriott right i used to like live like eight minutes from there it's so weird just thinking about uh how where somebody some place becomes your home just out of nowhere i kind of unexpected and start to uh to build an identity out here so it's pretty dope what what did you make of ricky rubio and johnny flynn getting drafted right before you did you think there was any chance um that minnesota would draft them before you uh no no no was there any chance that minnesota would draft you that's what i was thinking more so like because i done my pre-draft workouts with pretty much all the point guards at some point uh rubio he didn't come over so i didn't work out with him but like johnny flynn tyreke tyrek evans ty lawson through holiday um eric boehner uh i'm missing one and it's gonna kill me um brandon jennings ah so like i've worked out with all of them and i was like i i know you know from shooting perspective obviously i got it but i have a lot to offer and you know i should be at the top of that pg list um obviously james went three tyrique with four and at that point i'm like okay washington had just traded their pick to dc i'm sorry washington trade that they're picked to minnesota so they have five and six i'm like there's a good chance like they're gonna pick me but but if i get past that new york had already made that promise golden state went on the radar but definitely when they took two point guards you're sitting in the green room like all right that's weird like what's the plan there and why am i still sitting here uh but obviously i only had about eight minutes to think about that and then i was next so it was just different uh i always laughed too because there was like this kind of this article that came out about david khan who was a gm at the time and like obviously his revisionist history is like my fourth or fifth year in the league it's like oh why didn't minnesota pick me over you know those two guys when they took two point guards and the line was like oh he knew how much i like golf and uh minnesota is too cold so i wouldn't have been happy there as a basketball player knowing i couldn't play golf throughout the year i said that's a that's a reach right there that's a certified reach and next episode we should play the game that chuck plays on tnt where is he not because wherever he is now that's where he belongs he's not in the nba wherever he is now that's exactly where he belongs but so the whole draft process happens and so for all the listeners out there what you have to understand is every guy two things here every guy in the league has a guy that destroys you every time you play him and he's not like one of those guys and then i think everyone also has like a guy who at some point in your career or another that guy was in front of you and you look then you we all look at it as like even during that moment you're looking at it like this dude isn't better than me like i'm not sure why this guy's playing with me the world then gets to see that as time plays out like and there's one guy that was in front of you had an incredible college career not so much nba career but there was one guy that was in front of you that you did not play for in front of your rookie year can you talk to us about who that guy is and how that drove you to want to destroy him and honestly probably moved him out the nba would that's a whole another story who are you talking about oh you know exactly who i'm talking about wait who you talking about ac law i'm about to say okay [Music] law so but he so like there's a thing between college basketball and the league like we all know like you said it's it's just fit timing is just opportunity it's matchups it's all that type of stuff my second year in the league like ac law was uh the point guard i was in practice was going against him like he was nice and he had his like such a unique game that i could never really figure out um but i was trying to come into my own as a player and you know he was getting all the minutes he was closing out fourth quarters and i always say like the league is funny just because confidence is everything opportunity is everything and what you do when you get that opportunity can dictate you know your future and um and it's also about patience that's a fact and that's sometimes hard to really go through that process and you don't ever want to hear it when you're right in the middle of it but i went throughout my second year like i was getting benched in the fourth quarter ac law was playing key smart was our coach and like honestly i learned a lot but it was tough skill to swallow um but it also motivated me and drove me and then when i did get that opportunity to be like i am that guy that can compete at the highest level in this league and close out games can be a dude you can trust in those moments and all that type of stuff uh yeah ac is definitely the name that kind of embodies that moment for good or for worse and that's part of like the process like you said it's not disrespecting him it's just like that dude that was in front of you in terms of your opportunity and um and to his credit he was a great vet in terms of he was helping me throughout that process but he knew like i was kind of in my place so it's kind of like that a little bitter sweet only a matter of time and by the way he answered that probably as nice as he could for y'all and stuff so it's you know it's fine but so you go through it also smarty i'm gonna let you live and i'm not gonna hit you with the david conlon for for not playing stuff i'm gonna let you live cause we got love for you smart yeah put your shoe in the bar big fella a lot of love so you then go through that and that's your first couple years you also dealt with quite a few ankle injuries uh walk me through that process and and how what i mean i remember when i first got here um that was the narrative like the narrative was the ankles do do does the warriors offer you an extension do they not i remember my first time ever meeting you was you're on the court and the entire front office staff the entire ownership group everybody sitting there watching you do an individual workout as if he was about to get drafted in a couple days i couldn't believe it but they're literally debating on this workout whether they're going to give you an extension now walk me through that process of going through the ankle injuries having to bounce back from that not knowing what's next if they're going to resign you if not just walk me through that process i i never played with injuries my entire basketball career from middle school high school college like uh i had a pretty clean track record on that front so even my rookie year i played seven or 80 games in my rookie year and played like a lot of men's especially last three or four months and never had real nagging injuries especially ankles so when it started to happen my second year like it's frustrating because i mean obviously you're in pain your rehab you're in and out the lineup and then it just kept happening and then it just kept happening then it was like oh i only have to step on nobody's foot or being i could just be changing direction on the court and running in transition i joined a flip so it was scary because i didn't have any control over the situation it was like no matter how much i prepared my body for like how i knew how to prepare my body at the time nothing was working but i also knew like i was getting better on the court when i had the opportunity to play and all i wanted to do was give myself a chance to like prove myself and you have to be available and healthy to be able to do that so that lasted for two years like off and on i had two surgeries um extensive rehabs missed like 30 games during my third year on a lockout year and to your point like your future is kind of hanging in the balance of your health because uh you got surgeries on your resume nobody liked that uh you got chronic like injuries that aren't really freak accidents it's like i could be just doing normal basketball moves and my ankle would flip then you got the mental exhaustion of like just going through that process over and over and over again so um thankfully i think i i was so just focused on getting healthy i didn't really put too much pressure on myself on like what the implications of uh the injuries really could mean in the long term which i think helped me to stay motivated and react because you know like anytime you go to rehab the mind you know or the body response to the mind if you can't stay positive and you can't stay motivated and you start to get in your feelings and all that like it's a lonely miserable feeling and thankfully like i was either young naive or whatever i just couldn't stay out of i didn't have anything else to worry about but just get healthy and let everything kind of take care of itself um and thankfully after the second surgery started to get a little bit more progress started to learn about my body a lot more i started learning what it took to you know play at this level and the preparation that you needed to to to do that and then um sign the most favorable contract in possibly nba history in terms of everything that it allowed us to do um you know those next four years so uh it was a blessing in a in disguise if you will um that uh i'm forever i guess grateful and thankful for well before we talk about the contract because that's definitely something that i would love to talk about rumor has it i'm not sure if if you've ever confirmed this or if anyone ever has confirmed it but rumor has it that uh we trade the warriors i can't say we cause i was not here yet but the warriors trade for andrew bogut and they trade monte ellis to the milwaukee bucks andrew bogut comes back rumor has it that the trade initially was for you to go to milwaukee and monte ellis to still be here vulgar coming in the milwaukee doctors who probably should be fired um we fired everybody i'm on this whole notion of accountability everybody want to hold us accountable i'm holding everybody accountable you you did it the milwaukee doctor i hope he's still not the same doctor there but milwaukee doctors they didn't approve your ankles said your ankles would be no good and so they stopped the trade and then ultimately monte gets traded uh do you know that to be 100 true and at that time were you expecting to be traded or was when that news finally came out was that news to you the doctor part like i can't put a name to it but i know that was a part of the conversation because it all happened at once for me i know exactly where we were we were in sacramento um there's the lockout year since right at the trade deadline we get to the arena and walk in the locker room first i was on the first bus monte usually comes on the second bus um we were kind of we were outside the playoff seating but we were trying to make a little push like we were like tenth like maybe four five six games out of it but we thought we had enough time to you know make a run and get in the locker room that's kind of a different energy you know around trade deadline it's always like that but this was different it was like it's a little quiet in here like what's going on mark jackson's the coach of the town uh it's his first year get in the locker room and i'm getting taped getting ready to play in the game and you see across the ticker on the on the tv in the locker room like uh breaking news nba trade warriors trade monte ellis epa udo and somebody else for andrew bogut that's how we found out we were on the laughing like what the hell what what what's going on so monte shows up he just got off the phone with his agent they just called him and this is maybe an hour and a half before the game two hours for the game so then you know he's kind of like emotional but you know kind of resolution like this is happening like forget y'all like not not the team but forget the organization in terms of like he he was the true ultimate warrior like he was a fan favorite deservedly so we believe the last one from the we believe team uh had grown into a veteran you know presidents and leader um in that respect so it was a tough tough blow for like all of dubnation and wasn't really received well so uh that's how it went down everybody kind of said that goodbyes and monster epa they left and then coach jackson pulled me out at the locker room he was like yo i said i'll let you know like they wanted you in the trade but for whatever reason like and that's part of the document oh it didn't go down like that because i kind of stepped into and said i'm gonna give you the keys i felt like i really believe in you we just gotta get you healthy and that's what the rest of the season's gonna be about so you know his line don't make me a liar don't make me a liar uh and so that i that was when it was like the trade happened and like oh by the way that could have been you type five all at the same time um crazy crazy day i'll never forget that that moment um because it definitely set the tone for what you know the next chapter is about to be about actually before we go into the 44 million dollar deal um speak on mark jackson a little bit one thing i always say to people and i would love to get your perspective i don't think people like it's just not something that we talk about um but i felt like mark jackson um coach jackson to me um but i feel like one thing that he was great at is he gay like he breathed confidence guys like he's just spewing confidence in the gods and i think that was huge in our growth and and who we eventually became is the confidence that he gave guys i know people like i was actually watching earlier today to clip when when he said i got the best shooting backward in history he sounded crazy he sounded crazy i thought he was crazy everybody in the world thought he was crazy and out of his mind but he said i got the best shooting backcourt in basketball history uh what did what did coach jackson do for you and your career and helping you understand like no you are one of them dudes what what was that for you because i know for me like he breathed confidence into me and made me felt like i belonged in this league yeah it's it's the balance of like as a player like people who say they don't hear or read anything they learn like you hear everything that happened people's like media analysts coaches other players like it's a small fraternity and group and a family in this nba and then also within these organizations so you hear everything about you and it's just a matter of like that awareness mixed with like you said your confidence and who you are your identity um and then obviously what you go and do out on the floor to have somebody that's a decision maker that's you know in that head coaching position that goes out of his way to either defend hype up uh like breathe life into like you say to your players like that meant so much especially as a first-time head coach because he was going on these you know on these limbs that like you said some people didn't thought he was like out of his mind you know you know just kind of just a ride or die with no kind of thought like he he was very strategic and intentional about everything that he said and that meant so much to us as young as a young team trying to just find an edge and find an identity and it was contagious man like you know he you come into every pregame locker pregame uh you know speech and give us a like like a sermon almost it would just be like something like you want to run through the wall or laugh or feel some type of promotion and we go out and hoop um and he was so consistent in that front so at that time in our in my career in our career as a team and and journey that we were trying to you know come into he was perfect for that because he was an extreme motivator uh you know an ultimate defender he'd hype you up he buried confidence in you and that's how we went out and played um and i think to his his credit sometimes you think about how everything ended after that third year he almost would use different uh motivations that weren't even real like you kind of have to manifest something like almost like the kobe mentality or like mj back in the day like i might make something up in terms of there's you know some enemy that doesn't even exist but i'm gonna make sure everybody's on the same page against whatever that is absolutely um this is how he rolled and it was it was it was great for us in terms of you know giving us that edge has it been shocking for you that he hasn't been able to 1000 i understand the drama around when he left because it was a front office coach disagreement and he would probably admit that there were a couple interviews he did right after he left that he probably didn't need to do he spoke his mind he spoke as truth but he probably you know i don't say regret but you think about like you know doing it a different way on the back end but when you talk about like somebody that knows the game somebody knows how to relate to players somebody that is the ultimate competitor and play at the highest level play with amazing great play for some great coaches and with other amazing you know players throughout his career like all that wrapped into one person and just his vantage point as an analyst and all that like i'm extremely surprised i know his name floats up a lot he definitely he deserves another opportunity whoever want to take our opinion 100 100 uh definitely surprised and hopefully it won't well that won't remain too long i think when i'm when i'm looking around the nba i hope he gets an opportunity that he does not have to build a team the way he had to build us but but the reality is is there's 10 to 15 teams a year in that same position that i that he's proven right here that he can handle that job for sure now if you want to say oh well he hadn't coached superstars because when he coached us you weren't a superstar yeah clay wasn't a superstar you know like we none of us had grown into who who we became so if you want to say all right well he hasn't proven he can coach superstars well what he has proven is at least that he can do that no doubt and so that that part has been a bit shocking to me i must say um and and i hope to see you know his obviously his name just came up in the lakers job and i hope to see him get an opportunity because i think he did an incredible job um everyone has their differences i don't think any head coach or general manager or ownership group is on the on the same page at all times i i don't believe that and after being in this league for 10 years i can almost say that's for certain i mean and if you have one that's always on page at the same time i'm always on the same page then they're an outlier they're unicorn because it just doesn't happen this is a very um like it's a dynamic situation things change so fast in this league and the fact that we can you're always going to have to recalibrate and reassess and and like you say find some middle ground even almost because there are so many you know especially when you have a lot of cooks in the kitchen like i mean what the lakers are going through and what's coming out now yeah everything's coming out right now like it's crazy it's just evolutions of all this stuff and it's it's what we do and with everybody it's not easy no for sure for sure and i think like you said uh some interviews that he maybe want to take back now but i also think he caught uh some things that came his way that were a little unfair and here's one of steph curry ruined the game of basketball when he said that everybody was on edge like wow did he really come out and go ask steph like that better he better he got fired now he coming at it absolutely you look at the game of basketball today i understand exactly what he was talking about absolutely you watch an elementary school play you watch the nba i know exactly what he was talking about but at that time i think that also fueled the narrative of him being bitter right it fueled the narrative uh oh man it wasn't all working there and look now he's shooting that step and it was actually more of a compliment than anything he's had he let the dust settle and figure out exactly with the contact he had been in gyms with us with his sons they were hooping he was watching you know middle school games every week and he was like yo what is that literally watching this dude and thinking they can skip a bunch of steps and be like him so it's hard to get that in on the broadcast especially that was one of the worst things that next year when he got uh after he got let go and coach kurzen we're on a run they put him in like 20 of our games every game why you set my man up for set him up for success for sure every game he was on i mean i that's another story that's good tv no no it's not y'all y'all are really making him look like like he can't he can't even speak the way he want to speak for instance saying steph curry ruined the game of basketball and everybody's just piling on everything you say the moment he criticized anything the warriors is doing like any analysts that's they're they're going to go at both teams that's what you do as an analyst you're going to pick the game apart and he'd say something about us and it's i mean it's the it's the headline of the game and so i think that was that was a rough but you know and getting back to the to the 44 million dollar deal you signed the 444 and i think what most people don't understand is is at that time that was the growing going rate you signed that deal ty lawson signed that deal and give or take two three four million dollars each way um demar derozan signed the same deal drew holiday signed the same deal uh i think i i should i think i said ty lawson already brandon jennings signed a saying like everyone was kind of signing that same deal now a year later it was the worst deal in pro sports history one year later was the absolute worst deal in professional sports on your behalf on the war his behalf the best deal but absolutely how did you go through that knowing you're making 11 million dollars a year you probably should be you should be making 25 million dollars a year but in the same token if you don't sign a 44 million deal um the warriors have to decide on whether they're going to keep me or clay the warriors are never able to sign andre um and then in hindsight fast forward a couple more years later also not able to sign katie as well so how were you able to go through that and see the bigger picture and know i'ma ultimately make my money but right now i mean there was a time where i i think yeah there was a time where i was making more money than you on like you were the fifth or sixth highest paid player on our team it's a it's all intentionality and it sounds so freaking cheesy and cliche because i'm talking about it right now but like this is exactly how i thought and it's like i talked to my wife about it right before i signed i was flying into phoenix the day before opening uh opening night which by the way was probably one of the worst games signing out to sonic history we were on the road to open up in phoenix and uh at the time larry riley uh bob was there um my agent and then like i'm trying to figure out come into a deal and like it was that one thing i had to just tell myself like one let's let's look let's keep perspective here like 44 million dollars for four years more money my pops ever made in the league because i've been around the league for 16 years watching my dad play like i know how late that how far the league has grown grown from when he played and like that's good money support my family got a lot of security i just want to be healthy like let's just focus on that not what you leaving on the table what you could have made and then don't count anybody else's money like at the end of the day when you sign like that's your decision you're to rock with it you hopefully have a lot more years to play this game um and i try to set that foundation from my mindset right then and there and never like negotiate with myself afterwards never like second guess never come back to that moment like oh i shoulda coulda woulda because that's not how life works so i had to be really intentional about it i hate like that's it sounds so simple and and fairytale because it did work out but i do give myself credit that that was the perspective that i made sure i had and didn't want to let anything distract me from what you know could have been or what i left on the table uh what other situation that could have been out there and and thankfully you know like you said you listed all five things that were kind of consequences of that and i was still taken care of i was still good so that meant a lot in that moment did signing the 44 million dollar deal much like you said is a lot of money but then ultimately you realize like i'm not even making half what i should did that play any role into you ultimately leaving nike and saying i'm gonna go sign with under armour that is a great question and yes that is actually a fantastic nobody's ever really put that two and two together it was an opportunity to i guess there's always that that theme in the league when somebody's coming up with a contract extension or free agency or whatever like you do you bet on yourself like what is that you bet on yourself what does that mean right everybody's uh like a nerdless noel type situation you know you have somebody like uh deandre ayton right now you got guys that had good money on the table how it works out we'll see right with that piece like knowing i had you know four years on the court and got to survey the free shoot free agency situation and just see where i was at on that side of the uh or in that part of my career like building something from scratch taking a chance to put my fingerprint on a brand um from from the ground up and and and and have a company that was going to kind of invest behind me that was a huge opportunity and it was kind of going against the grain a little bit in terms of at that time the stable that nike had and uh you know everybody can talk about how they do it the best and this now that's you know you know a matter of opinion but the fact that i got to go and you know getting a signature shoe game build a brand be able to inspire and story tell around things that are important to me like we're now eight what nine years removed from that and i got this freaking logo on my hat and we have hopefully something that will continue to be part of the legacy for years and years and years and years to come that was me betting on myself and it was uh it was a fun it's been a fun process from day one and uh i don't know if i'd have made that decision had you know things gone differently uh with the contracts though and speaking of uh decisions that you've made um you you win unanimous mvp uh which hadn't been done in the history you then take that unanimous and you spin off and you start an entire couple different sectors of business that you go into uh under the under the name unanimous one is your production company another as you started a fund talk to talk to me about building that production company because it's actually it's actually a face that i'm in right now um in my life and you know just not necessarily building a production company but you know the podcast um tnt deal throwing bones sessions and so and moving into that direction how has that been for you because the time that it takes doing all of this stuff brothers y'all ain't warned me about this all the time that it takes in building this but how has that gone um y'all signed a first look deal with sony um how has that gone on that side for you the things that you've learned and how that transition into that side of the business it's been a it's been a whirlwind and you just said like it's it's about making sure you prioritize like what keeps the lights on what makes all this possible obviously that's basketball and uh i don't know what kind of feedback you've gotten but that help that has never ever changed like whatever you see us doing outside of court like we know how to make sure we keep balance and i'm not saying it's easy but you always uh prioritize and make sure one you know who you're doing with and your people in your team because that's the most important piece sometimes you get that right sometimes you get that wrong the quicker you can realize when you get it wrong and and uh and make the necessary changes that's important and that's a hard thing to do in our position too because you do um you know gotta delegate and make sure people are positioned for success but at the end of the day it all comes back to you and some people like that responsibility some people don't but i've found that uh it's been amazing to try stuff like it's been amazing to just experiment you know you know try your skill set at different things uh get into uh you know projects that move you uh like you talk about with my media company with unanimous like we found pillars within faith family and sports that we want to continue to tell amazing stories through a bunch of different mediums but making sure that it is authentic to to who i am my personality things that are important to me um and then allowed my team to push me a little bit into different areas that i didn't even know were possibilities and so um that's gonna be a long journey that will continue to uh you know to assess our goals and and measure up how we're doing and keep building and scaling up but um i think it obviously it comes down to the team that's something that is a comparison to basketball and off the court that are so important who who you rock with and who you do that business with and who you trusted to be a part of that fold is the key to everything um and this has allowed me to you know create some amazing relationships it's amazing opportunities set some amazing you know amazingly talented people up for success and uh and do it with things that are you know authentic to me speaking of authentic to you and setting people up for success um you have holy moly which is very authentic to you for those that don't know it's a golf goofy and fun in golf it checks all the boxes for stuff um that i know i've had the honor of going on once which was great but i think one thing that i that that you've done that i really enjoy to keep tabs on um because i feel like i would have been there i had it been around when i was coming up is that your underrated tour um and how you essentially channeled who you were or i mean you're not yeah who you were because you're not underrated anymore but who you were coming up and said okay just like me there's a million other kids outside that doesn't get those looks that doesn't get to go to uh the good camps and if they go to a camp they get a reversible um jersey that says a number on it and then they go home it's not it's not a good thing they don't look good they don't they're not treated well it's just like oh we're giving you an opportunity to go play basketball you've changed that narrative and you've put together essentially an all-american camp for underrated kids can you talk to me um more about the underrated camp and also like is is there anything else that's going to come with the underrated camp like are y'all going to continue to grow that what's the plans with so like use it was an amazing setup because that's exactly what the goal of the underrated tour was at a jump i started my under armour all-american camp so he's inviting the top 30 high school guys to the first two then we got to expand uh to uh the most talented girls in high school sports and like the fourth year i was sitting on in one of our little sessions and i was looking around mind you like i don't know what these high school dudes are eating these days but they all like 6 7 2 20 i'm like yo first i'm probably the smallest one in here two i damn sure i wouldn't have been invited to this camp i wouldn't invite it to my own camp so i thought like this is amazing experience to give them a piece of uh my skill set and my understanding of basketball and hopefully pass something back down to them but what about the three-star recruit that i was a two-star recruit for a while like three-star recruit that i was in high school like you said looking for an opportunity looking to get on a platform to um you know showcase who they are and their abilities um and obviously in the pursuit of a college scholarship so we started underrated tour rackington's been a huge part of it they you know propped it up year one and we've gone to four different regions around the country um it's it's free it's an open invite to three-star uh you know recruits who uh love the game of basketball and want to come out and work hard and compete and but we're giving them the opportunity and and like you said a first-class experience like it's not just you know let's just bring it to a gym and roll the balls out like you know and trying to put them in the right gear make them look look fresh um give them more of a understanding of what it takes to be a college athlete in terms of you know you know being eligible academically uh different uh classes and understandings for their parents to know what recruiting is like uh how to go through that process and then obviously the on-court uh you know skills and uh and expertise that i can provide through uh the programming that we do so we take four regions we take the top you know uh talent from each region we bring them out to the the national championship stop out here in the base they get to come out here we just had a couple weeks ago we had a tournament so each region plays against each other and then we have a champion and we have the most underrated girl and boy in the country and we we celebrate that and we help them tell their stories um in terms of where they are where they're trying to go and how they're going to get there and so it's been an amazing success so far we're in year three i'm going to continue to expand that out um and continue to reach as many kids as possible and hopefully we've created over 30 scholarships wow through this through this uh this tour in basketball on the boys and girls side so it's pretty it's it's amazing to your like point this is something that exists in a bunch of different youth sports um and obviously for me basketball and golf were the first two that i wanted to touch and so uh soon this summer would be the first underrated golf tour um wow and the uh the cool part about it is like golf is such a we caught an elitist kind of history and sport but there's uh an understanding of opportunity that the game can provide not just as in pursuit of playing professionally and making money but the world of golf and the business of golf and even just the different connections and doors that golf opens we need more representation we need more equity access and opportunity to the game and so golf is the vehicle to reach these kids and hopefully we have some pga professionals and that's that's the goal to get more representation on all these different you know professional tours but golf will also be the the the vehicle to uh give these kids an understanding of skill development you know business acumen um an understanding of whatever passion that you have in this world like it is possible for you to get into these uh into these right industries and and do it where you're you're prepared and equipped to become your future leader and that's the goal so coming soon there's gonna be a lot more we talk about with that tour but to be able to have that uh impact on these kids through basketball and golf um it's special to me because they're it's what i love that's amazing um excuse my ignorance but how in the hell do you find a three-star golf so pretty much anybody who's a minority in golf you're already three star in general because there's so many different uh barriers to um pursuing golf at the highest level but the three star in golf is more the equity in terms of reaching the same amount of boys as girls that we do in each of the different tour stops that we have the the access in terms of breaking down those barriers whether it's cost related whether it's transportation related whether it's equipment related coaching like all of those things that are a part of you know skill development within golf and then the opportunity is like again using golf as the vehicle to introduce these kids to future you know success um in a lot of different areas so that's what the three stars are in golf um but like i said getting representation within the game across the board that's that's first and foremost and and moving back to basketball i know everyone's going to be watching this how are you feeling how's your health um i'll probably get food and chase center if i ask this question how is your health like um are you expecting to be ready for game one are you not expecting to be ready for game i also need to know this for my personal insanity as well so how are you feeling as far as you know being ready to play this weekend the goal has always been game one um and this is a weird injury because it's such a slow healer like you know i've had a bunch of different injuries over time but like sometimes like every day you feel like dramatically better and you you you're like oh i got a little pep in my step i can keep i can do this i can do this this one i feel like i felt like the same for two weeks but i could do a little bit more and a little bit more but it's all like just dealing with the pain that comes with you know the injury that i had in my foot so and you know the uh the wear and tear that comes with uh with an injury like that but the goal has always been game one the goal still remains game one um very optimistic that it will be game one and uh whatever that means like you said i just want to be available and we know what time of year it is we we've been in the playoffs for two years it is kind of weird to think about that yes yeah and i'm so freaking juiced cause uh i know how much i love that environment first time in this building which would be interesting so i don't want to miss none of it so that's the goal um and i would it'd be hard-pressed to you know for anything to kind of keep me out of that but we'll see uh it's definitely exciting i mean you haven't you weren't with the team on this last trip but i've probably cussed out seven people just leading up to this man i i'm just antsy and excited i think i mean obviously for me what was his first seven years of my career yeah the first seven years and not making a playoff and then spending two years outside of the playoffs i'm like what the hell like this is well yeah welcome to my world for the first three years i mean that's right well that's the reason first you you made the playoffs because y'all you and clay been here yeah those first three years uh i already had the car on the back of the truck headed back to north carolina i had a tee time i had i had michael 17 was a vacation i had my car in the truck two years ago in 2020 ready to go everywhere and then i mean the one off season i do all right we missed the playoffs which i was not happy about then the one-off season i do get shut down and then the next offseason i get the nba season even though we don't make it it runs into july we make the playoffs playing until june 20th like you ain't made the playoffs right man be stuck at home or had a month to go do his thing and get it get your mind right and then turn right back around like and and i mean for me we finished june 20 if i had to be in vegas july 4th i forgot about the usa yeah which then spanned from july 4th to august 8th training camps start mid-september you just can't get away from the game that's though at least i'm in the playoffs this time i'll take that one but speaking of playoffs lakers had a rough year um as we all know no surprise there but lebron says the other day uh last week or something whenever it was that he has one guy in the nba right now that a current nba player that he wants to play with that player happens to be you um and i know i saw the other day where you said you laughed about it he was like oh i'm good but like take me deeper into that number one i mean you're on that level but like lebron is up there in the goat conversation so for him right now like for him to come out and say like no i want to play with steph curry regardless of how the world may feel about that or how anyone may feel in my opinion that is like that's that's one number one that's one of the ultimate signs of respect that has to feel good but then number two like don't get me to laugh i'm good like take me deeper into what you were really thinking when you first heard that but so what you just said is is definitely uh and like we talk about all the time with lebron especially knowing our history and the finals runs and all that and playing against him there is no denying like his greatness in terms of what he can do on the court and like sometimes even when you're playing against him you're in awe because it's like the way he can control the tempo of the game the way he can dominate scoring passing you know just his overall just presence and his iq like all that stuff like we all talk about it and you have to appreciate your competition if you want to beat them because there's got to be that you know that's coach would call it the appropriate fear absolutely but um like you said in terms of like him picking out one player that he won besides a son that he want to play with and my name comes up it is definitely it's surreal because i i will never be so far removed from the time like i was in detroit playing in the sweet 16 game and this dude was maybe his fourth or fifth year in the league and he's coming to my game like supporting and cheering and doing all that stuff even at the place he was at in his career as uh you know the future superstar and like i said hall of famer you know potentially greatest of all time like the fact that we're 13 years of moving and he's saying that it's still crazy i had a uh i don't know how people knew this he gave me a jersey when i was in high school i remember i was in college my davidson and i still have it on the wall i had my parents i was back in charlotte wow and he wrote it like to the king of basketball in uh in north carolina uh and signed it and all that so like i would never be too far removed from like where i came from in terms of this this journey uh so that's dope and that's that's that's the surreal part the other quick part is like okay if you take a fantasy draft and you're like building a team out and you got what braun can do and the way i can shoot the ball like obviously there's like a curiosity like what would that look like but also there's a realist realism of like that's why i said i'm good right now it's just you can never let your mind go from what you know is is your situation what is uh your moment your time and who i've been rocking with from from day one so that's my best that's my best answer at it because it's fantasy it's is wild but there's a respect and appreciation there's a surrealness because of where i came from and and how we first interacted back when i was in college but if this is a 2k that'd be pretty lethal i appreciate that answer though because the reality is one thing that pisses me off um in this entire realm of nba players uh which is let's face it dominated by african american is how they tried to pit us against each other you know it's like everything him against him compared like how is he compared to this guy they just did that to uh i was walking up here and somebody i was on tv and one of the talking head shows and it was like who has more pressure kyrie or katy what like now they walk around like 15 minutes on tv like we talk about that exactly before the playing game even started like i think it's ridiculous how they try to like and so when lebron comes out and say like i want to play with steph curry and the reality is all the talking heads and all of these people they they they want to try to find a way to make that controversial right and that's that's not a controversial statement at all that is saying i admire someone with my knowledge of the game because lebron has some of the highest knowledge when it comes to basketball with my knowledge of the game and me understand what wins in this league i want to play with him because if i can take my skill set and partner my skill set with this guy skill set i think it'll be unstoppable but it goes way further than that when when it comes to us you know it doesn't go way further than that when when when you're dealing in all other realms of business but when it comes to us it goes way further than you know actually from a basketball standpoint that makes all the sense in the world he would almost be dumb not to say that like are you out of your mind if you gave him a clear a clean slate it's like like number one pick in the nba draft fantasy whatever like yeah you said what you bring to the table who would compliment that hello i makes all the senses that's a great point though so i mean and i i've kind of been going on this thing lately of like just the disrespect amongst us and how like i actually spoke about it uh i actually i need to get your thoughts on this too before you out people always compare errors too right and they always say we're more buddy buddy then there is a pass because they ain't no fights on the court like we all work out with each other you got business crossover friendships like all that stuff off the court and they always something like that's ruining the game no pun intended sorry mark that's ruining the competition on the court in terms like we all have you know these backgrounds outside of that 94 feet do you ascribe to that like this like our era is less competitive because we're more friendly i think we're just way smarter than the errors before us um if you look at that from uh the way the game is like if you look at the past era basketball they was beating each other right they're like don't get me wrong guys were skilled in all due respect to the guys that came before but they were out there literally like outside of fighting like playing the game of basketball they were beating each other there wasn't like much skill to that there were guys that were skilled but if you look around the nba now there's no one in the nba that can't hit a three-point shot now whether they shoot a bunch of them right right but there's no one in the nba today that can't hit a three-point shot when you look at the level of the skill that we have today it's totally different from from the league when it was or from what the league used to be but my question to you um i made a statement about three weeks ago that if lebron's breaking the scoring record [Laughter] you're playing 81 games next year i'm not going to the game i'm going to see lebron break the score now i want to ask you as a teammate and i have not accepted this at all we again but i left it like we have not discussed it at all so y'all can get the same answer i get i actually didn't think anything of it i didn't think anything of it until we're in memphis last week on the day of that game and bob calls me earlier in the day and we're just talking and he's like hey so help me understand when you say something like that or when you say that in particular like do you just not care what people think do you not care what your teammates think like um and he like laid out all these other things that it possibly could be right and i said bob i'm sorry but if people in the world are dumb enough to believe that i'm going to miss my job to go watch someone else do theirs and feed their family and this is how i feed my family which means if i miss my job to go watch him feed this fan i could possibly lose how i feed mine if someone's that dumb vibe to think wow he's actually going to miss his game if someone's that dumb that's not my fault like that's not my problem i want to know what you think when you when you see me make that statement one i knew if that situation happened next year there's no way in hell you would walk to me clay andre coach curry and be like yo i'm doing this so i that's why i didn't hit you about it i knew there was it was a way of expressing how amazing that accomplishment defeat was and your respect for brian two i understand one piece of what bob is saying in terms of if it's somebody within your family that might be and your family is all different context and the family of our team somebody is gonna be gonna have to directly answer to that for whatever reason like there's a certain level of respect of hey you know what i meant by that or whatever like no we can that can be a quick conversation cool but it's also an unfortunate piece of lumping it into every other sound bite that comes out of your mouth like which the polarizing we all know who you are and like that piece i know that'll never change because that's who you are but it's also like if if there was ever it highlights if there's ever a little insecurity or question of where your loyalty lies which okay if if you're going to that point then you got a whole nother conversation to have um and if you're like cool we gonna have that conversation but i i that's the one thing i get is like if it's somebody within your family that you know whatever you say even if you still mean what you say and you're not going to step off of it and you kind of i don't regret how it came out if they're gonna have to answer to it yeah you got to take another step to you know say your part but i didn't hit you because i knew there was no way in hell game 67 next year lebron is 27 points away it might be two games because he might [ __ ] one game i'll be pulling dennis robin right quick i'm gonna see y'all come and see him when i see him that's that's good to know man a couple more questions uh before i let you go a couple more basketball questions um and then i also want to ask you a couple family questions well that's that's important to me espec as a father as a husband uh one of them guys that i've looked at since i came into this league and how you handle yourself so we'll get to that but a couple more basketball questions um so coming into this season you know we come in and it's kind of like this mix of old guys if you will and young guy yeah and and i i made a i made a comment earlier in the year and i said we've never seen this work um where you're trying to mix the past or not the past because we're still yeah and they're all in our prime but past success uh the group that you've had success with and future of who you think you can have success and trying to combine those two we historically we had never seen that work and i said that in a press conference now what takes the cake is me saying historically we've never seen that work but no one does acknowledges the part of me saying that's the challenge for us as leaders of this team that's the challenge for us that's the challenge that you embrace and you want to be the group that can make that work no one talks about that part they only talk about the first part but um and now we've played 82 games and you've seen how it all come together um what are your thoughts on uh this current team and what needs to happen for this team obviously we know health um you know we got to stay healthy i've been out clay missed the first half of the season i missed essentially half of the season right in the middle and then you've missed the last few weeks so obviously hell but what has to happen as far as like our young guys coming along uh who do you think is going to be that x factor what has to happen for us to ultimately do what we set out to do and that's winning the championship i mean this year has been it's been interesting as we we laughed about a little bit like nobody expected us to start off the season the way we do because of the questions coming into the year about uh the two different timelines um not knowing what you know otto and belly as that minimum guys and andre is you know you know where he was in his career like what how they would mesh with us and all that you know essentially the team that started off hot in the way we we started off this season was off the the way we ended last year you know mixed with a little bit more veteran presence and two young guys that um have so much potential but don't have a defined role or consistent opportunity so we've gone through all of that and like you said injuries and clay coming back and you know jp's ascension and all that so what needs to happen is health like you said but we keep doing what we're doing in terms of understanding how we play and then defensively obviously that is going to take the cake and it's amazing to have you back you know feeling good and healthy to help lead that charge but we know how to play off the rotation gets tight absolutely but you with that tight rotation you have those three to four guys and it's gonna be jk mood you know daily one even gp a little bit those guys are depending on matchups depending on how series go you have to be prepared and ready and locked into what you're going to be asked to do and that could be five minutes that could be a 30 minute run that could mean starting one game coming off the bench one game like the flexibility in that because we have so many pieces to go to like some teams they have eight guys and they're gonna play eight guys the whole the whole run and that's it we're not that team um so if we we play like you know our rotation we play at the highest level do we need to do and we have you know our guys ready to step into those roles um you know on a moment's notice that's going to give us our best chance because we know it's going to be tough we know how hard it is to win a championship how many things have to go your way but we can take on that challenge what you said starting in the season like doing something that hasn't been done historically and then we'll deal with what comes next you know when it comes because that's the nature of the nba but i like the fact that we have the ability to throw a bunch of different guys out there and trust that you know they can provide and provide value and do do what they need to do out there and no brighter stage in the playoffs to show that because it's just a different energy and when you look back like certain guys that have helped us win a series or a championship some of the names will be you know we'll hop off the page in terms of uh some unexpected guys that came into a role and did what they needed to do 100 um and speaking of a championship if you if you could trade the 2017 and 18 championship to complete the 73 win championship would you trade those two championships to complete the 73. um so let me get the resume right i have we'd have two chips and a damn near perfect season mm-hmm [Laughter] uh oh man i don't i don't even know how to answer that question i would say no but i think for the rest of our life i'll still be able to just laugh at 16 which is it's fine it's always going to be that just like awkward like uh acknowledgement of an amazing regular season and and then in the finals run but yeah i i say no but you don't have your steph curry in your life get your steph curry because if you say yes this interview was over my heart was broken get you a steph curry is he mean yes get you a step no uh i think honestly that essentially that essentially puts you in a place of undoubtedly the best team ever um if if we were to complete it now cool to be in the conversation to be quite frank with you i still think we had the best team ever although we didn't finish it and win the championship i still think that was the best team ever until 2017 i was about to say where we where are we going there because that team was down until 2017 then i think that team took over the greatest team ever so i think we still accomplished it best team ever but not quite you know people take numbers and they want to put the numbers there and say oh well the bullets have several two win bro like exactly we were the best team ever i i i don't care what no one said i can't see anyone beating that 2017 team not even our first 15-16 i can't see anyone beating that 2017 team they say in the medical field i concur hands down that's it the best team ever but before we get out of here um i've always asked you questions just about marriage um about kids uh how you parent how you are in your marriage um because you've always been a great example for me to watch and i'm appreciative of that like i think you know people don't realize you we spend i spend more time with you than you spend with your wife like you spend more time with me than i spend with my wife and my kids like that's just the nature in what we do like we spend a ton of time together for half for half the year we're on the road we're all together and then even when we're not on the road we've been here since 9 00 a.m it's 4 45. like you still spend and spend a ton of time together but i've been able to watch you for 10 years now um and your growth and parenting your growth as a husband and just how you continue to grow and i have such a strong appreciation for that now in saying that the rest of america has also been able to watch your marriage and your growth and you and aisha are almost like y'all are the golden standard and like the couple goes like that everyone really look at and say man like we want that do you do y'all feel that pressure in your marriage or are y'all just so grounded in your marriage that like what anyone says from the outside really don't matter or do you feel that pressure in your marriage to kind of uphold what world see y'all as like the world see y'all as the ideal couple that made it work since a young age and still making it work that like on your trajectory to greatness here comes her trajectory to greatness and like she's doing great things in them like sweet july um was the cover it was the face of cover girl like all the things that she's doing um she has her aisha cookware and in stores and just to see both of y'all excellent has been incredible do you all feel that pressure from the outside world to be that goal that they all want to be i think it's both for sure um but i say that because we never like acknowledge any type of title like that or like pressure or uh put any merit on like that as a goal right but we also understand the influence inspiration that it can provide and that's what people need you can't sell yourself for that like in terms of uh how you live your day-to-day life and there's got to be a balance to it but the best part about it i can honestly say that is because it's built on such a solid foundation that we are just living our lives and doing it together and sharing uh every up and every down you know the growth that has come individually and stuff that uh we never in a million years could imagine like uh that we'd be doing and you know together and in our in our individual careers uh on top of you know raising three amazing kids like the foundation was so strong um because none of this was around and i i'm truly appreciative of that um that i do have somebody that i can share all of this with and who knows how i'm thinking before i'm even thinking it uh i can you know understand some of the pressures that she's going through as a quote-unquote basketball wife which we know is not just the thing it's it's something that is thrown at you know [Music] them unnecessarily every single day of uh either comparisons or standards that they have to uphold every day or just the constant noise around like what's happening in our world is always having to impact them or they have to answer to it or whatever the case is you even think about like stuff that's going on this year in like terms of fan interaction like it's hard for them to come to games sometimes like keeping it real like we go to playoff games on the road and there's always you know people yelling at them because they think that's going to affect us and all this other stuff and like i have such an appreciation for her growing into that role too because it's loud at times and it's there's a lot of you know opportunity for distraction and stress and um and whatnot but our foundation is key the fact that we can share that with the world the proper ways um try to be as authentic and real about the things that we're experiencing and hopefully you know give a good light on what marriage is because there's so much fear around what that is and and obviously you you you want to uh to honor you know that establishment as much as possible and the commitment that we made so it's it's a little bit of everything but the fact that i get to be her big supporter and biggest supporter and see what she's been able to create on her own and um and know what work she's put into it and the stuff behind the scenes that nobody gets to see like that stuff is so dope to me and so rewarding because um you know she deserves everything she's got and uh i'm proud of her for that aisha's a little more like me and a sense of [ __ ] dude [Laughter] one thing i admire is and and i guess it's just who you are because you know as a brother in my life you've been the same way like i said she's like me in a sense it'll just come out and as a brother in my life no matter where i've went wrong um no matter you know if i've said some wrong things before you've always supported me and one thing i admire about you in your relationship but you in particular is even at times where she may have said the wrong thing um your support for her in saying that and and and standing in front of it it's like you stood in front of her as if she was right like and it don't matter i i admire that but that's that's for you that can get a little dicey too because you have a brand and you have all the things that you've built but you stood in front of her no matter what that situation like what the situation has been is that just like that's just what it is that's the way it's gonna be do you like is there a conversation to be had like what how does that how do you go about that i think that's powerful because a lot of it is uh the fact that like you just said like i know you're gonna mess up at times and i've obviously i've done the exact same thing and i can defend myself but when it comes to like the unnecessary just focusing heat on somebody that is like take a take a second and walk in her shoes for you know i'm not saying and see we're all blessed and we all you know have uh amazing things going on in our life but like my sister always said like everybody's mountain is their mountain and there are certain things that you will never know she's going through in terms of you know all the different hats she has to wear and you know the responsibilities and the expectations of a woman in all of those arenas and what they go through on a daily basis like i have an appreciation for all of that so i know she would hold me down in those situations and the same way it goes you know the other way and that is my job as her husband and so uh i think they take that seriously and the biggest piece is like this is such a long journey man like there's gonna be so much stuff that you know that happens and if you like i said if you have a strong foundation of how you're gonna get through that stuff like um at the end of the day like there's so much confidence in that because i know uh i know who she is i know what she's about and never second guessed that so it makes it a little bit easier um in times where there is conflict and there is uh you know what you ever wanted to call a drama unnecessary drama because that's that's what it is well for sure i think i have an appreciation for that because for the longest time i would see you operate that way and i didn't understand it in part due to because i didn't have that for myself like i didn't you know um once once being in a relationship with hazel i learned so much about being in a relationship and like and support for a woman and the hats that they actually were before that i can't say i understood that like i didn't understand all the hats i didn't understand um the things that you know she's doing for our kids like holding our house together and like all the different hats that a woman wear i can't say that i understood that if you want me to be 100 honest with you i thought like they like so easy like i got to go out here and play every day your life is very simple until you really connect with someone and like you sharing that pain you feel that hurt you see the struggles it gave me a totally different appreciation for it i don't know if you remember this but i asked you a question on the plane before and i said if there's one luxury in the world and this is long before my understanding is probably six seven years ago i asked you this i said there's one luxury in the world that you can have and you can have it for the rest of your life or that you can just have one luxury what would that luxury be and i asked you i asked clay maybe d lee i know mine was a private plane i'm like private plane that's one that's the ultimate luxury to me and i'll never forget your answer i was so disappointed in your answer i look back on that answer now and i 100 percent understand because what your answer was it is like it it has a bearing on your life it has a bearing on you being you know one of the things that you told me it's like me aisha date and like like we have a relationship totally separate kids that we really involve like that we really commit to because we know if we're committed to that relationship the kids they'll be fine and they'll automatically benefit from that and i and i understand that now but when i asked you that question it was so disappointing you said a nanny i'm like i don't out all the luxuries in the world you call me on a stressed out day all the luxuries in the world you can have a nanny i didn't understand it i do understand it now though yeah but i didn't understand it then and that was like i mean i thought she was and that's me saying that so imagine like the reflect you talk about the stuff that they that my wife does to be a presence and a you know care giver and take care of our kids and just the amount of work that they might not even feel like is work but i feel like you leave me at home with the kids for four hours god something's gonna break i might lose one of them at the house they might be hungry uh about i don't know what like it's just a whole lot of stuff but like that definitely is a reflection of just an appreciation for uh what it takes to be you know an amazing wife and a mother and an entrepreneur and all that type of stuff and the other piece to that the appreciation is i know how hard you know we work to do what we do and what it takes to be successful it's something you pour everything you have into it yeah i feel like there's a kind of common theme of like women in general you know i have to work twice as hard the same opportunity absolutely and that's like just common and you know we talk about pay equity and all that all that stuff but we can also like even think about a lot of the accomplishments my wife have been marginalized because of my success 100 so think about i got to work twice as hard to get you know acknowledgement or success in my my business whatever that is and then i'll get half the praise for it because it's because because you have money it's because you can afford multiple nannies it's because you know your husband is the superstar in the nba that it's easy you got all the opportunity in the world like i never appreciated that vibe because i don't get off from praise like that but you also haven't appreciated like what you put in is not going to necessarily come back you know with the same energy and once that clicked like all the other stuff made much so much more sense in terms of the day to day on just finding peace and happiness at the end of the day and so um hazel aisha and every other wife in the world i got so much respect for for what you do and we wouldn't be who we are without them i i agree 100 percent like trying to get some brownie points on the draymond green show today i got a date in two hours and it better be good each i'm playing this can i get the advanced copy can i get the raw we're sending this right away but speaking i mean two more questions i didn't know you had a date now anyway but um uh last one about aisha and then just one for you as as guys especially in our position um like hazel's an actress she's constantly doing auditions i'm constantly reading i know you remember this because aisha used to be in the same field i'm reading these like these scripts i'm reading the script slides they calling i'm reading the slides and trying to record her because as you covet sent everything home so i'm the cameraman i'm the reader i'm all of these things i'm the light man doing all of these things and i have a huge appreciation for her and her grind and like what she puts into it um but that's not always the case and especially in our profession a lot of guys have egos a lot of guys are super duper insecure in what we do and aisha's leveled up on a totally different level over the last two three years or so and everything that she's doing how was that for you accepting that growth because it changes the dynamic like it changes you could come home from a 10-day road trip and she gone for 10 days and then now she come back from her 10-day trip in all her business that she's handling and then you're leaving for four days how has that been for you in adjusting to what she's been able to do all the things that she has her hands in and the businesses that she's started and are running and like you know like cover girl isn't a business that she started but then being the face of that that comes with requirement how how is that for you and to accept that this is who she's becoming and i support that 100 because it totally changes the dynamic that you were used to for years you gotta that's where we came i mean it's not a genius term but like we literally have to thrive in chaos a little bit because it is uh you you got all these plans for what the year gonna look like and how we're gonna balance it out okay we're gonna match up road trips and work uh crazy work uh schedules and so you know when i have a home stand we're all at home and we have some normalcy and family dinners and all that and then you get like three four weeks into the season you're like uh uh we ain't getting this right but to your point like it's a celebration of what she's doing it's understanding that we're trying to do everything at the same time like we're trying to raise a family i'm in the height of my career she's you know a serial entrepreneur and has a much a lot of uh you know success at scaling these businesses up and what it requires to do that um you kind of have to continue to re-prioritize like again like you said like dating each other and having as much quality time as you can you know the kids are definitely you know a priority um and work like all those things kind of shuffle at the same time and um it's it's difficult i won't sit here and try to sugarcoat it and say like we got everything perfect but at the end of the day the one thing i'll make a joke the one thing that has done is like i kind of i'm looking forward to like what does retirement look like [Laughter] what is that what does that actually look like uh we get nine months of my year back and uh you know you got a work trip cool i'll be here and hang out with the kids i mean it might look different when you get back but uh don't worry i'll hold it down but um we have an amazing village around us that helps um and you know that is extremely crucial to to supporting us and and what we do but there is an understanding that you know these could be the busiest and most chaotic times of our lives but the most rewarding in terms of um you know life experiences and even what we get to share with our kids um along the way so at the end of the day we always tired though your last answer honestly leads me to my last question which was what does retirement and life after basketball look like for steph curry and it's two-part question um does will we get the opportunity to see stuff on the pga tour or at least pursue because i like the word pursue pursue because and like we're professional basketball players you know so no disrespect to all the pga golfers like i know what it takes to be what you all have become and what you're doing i don't know what it takes to be a golfer but to be a professional and so no disrespect but i know your love for golf i know your relationship with the tour with the guys on the tour um will we one day have the opportunity to see steph curry pursue playing on the tour there are a couple templates that uh certain other you know professional athletes from other sports have taken and to dabble into professional golf uh like john smoltz uh tony romo um marty fish who was you know amazing tennis player uh all of those guys have found ways to find competitive golf test their skills um get ingrained to some of the kind of temple events i encountered a year that kind of scratched that itch if you will so i'm gonna learn from that when when it's all said and done i don't know if that's the scary part is like if you told me that i know what it takes to be a basketball player at this level and the grind right i'm not afraid of that grind but i'm also afraid of that grind because with the grind starts and i commit to it i'm not going to stop absolutely so i have to i got to find some clarity on that question because it would be interesting to see how far i could go but i'm also afraid of what it what that means because my work ethic is something i hang my hat on and you can take that and apply it to something else one i just hyped up my relationship with my wife and success and peace and happiness and i might ruin it i might ruin all of that by saying hey babe i'm uh uh you know whatever 17 18 years in the league i'm gonna go uh i'm gonna try golf now let's just watch friends repeat this whole last 18 years i don't know what that's gonna look like but those guys have figured out a way to have some fun keep it competitive but not go all the way into the deep end so we'll see my brother i appreciate it i mean i think like people always ask me obviously no i can't golf but people always ask me am i going to coach or am i going to be a gm when i'm done playing and i tell everybody no hell no like the last thing i want to be on when i'm done playing is a basketball schedule like i've been on a basketball schedule my entire life the last thing i want to do is retire and then be back on the basketball schedule so i totally understand my brother i totally understand and um from myself producer jackson uh jackson has been [ __ ] blowing my phone up all week about this episode how he thinks it worked we had two calls about this episode and making and trying to make it as perfect as possible but honestly um it's really an uh you know just a night to you and everything that you've done um who you are these trophies your mvp trophies that sit right next to those trophies that's just in your own personal from the case um who you are as a person uh a steward of the game of basketball um and an example for black men and how i know we can be successful in marriage and like yeah there is a divorce rating like we can be successful in as as the head of a family because that is skewed and like we don't get to see that all the time and so i think you know when speaking of a couple goals it's incredible to see two african-americans do what y'all are doing and so i appreciate that man i appreciate it and i want to say thank you um for everything that you've done and been to me in my life um for the success that we've had you know there's always this notion of like draymond can't do can't do it without steph or he can't do it without clay and i'll be 100 honest i can't on the flip side clay and steph clay can't do it without steph and draymond and steph can't do it without clay and draymond and i think for for me what we've built it's not that i can't go on and do something else it's not that you wouldn't be successful in playing with someone else it's not that clay couldn't go to the lakers tomorrow and be clayton it's not that it's just not as beautiful as what we've been able to do together and so [ __ ] everybody i don't know how you gonna end that because everybody who say i can't or he can't or clay can't you're right you win we can't we can't do it without each other but we're damn good doing it together that's it from this episode of my green show thank you my brother it's a wrap we out foreign

Channel: The Volume

Views: 2,712,912

Keywords: #UpTheVolume, Volume, Volume Sports, Sports, Sports Talk, Sports Radio, Hot Take, Colin Cowherd, Herd, The Herd, Blazing 5, Draymond Green, Draymond Green Podcast, The Draymond Green Show, Draymond Green highlights, Warriors highlights, Warriors standings, Steph Curry, LeBron James, Steph Draymond highlights, Steph Curry highlights, Nike, Mark Jackson, Lakers, Mark Jackson Lakers, Kevin Durant, Klay Thompson, Steve Kerr, Steph Curry interview, playoffs, Jordan Poole

Id: 7f5vUyoKpow

Length: 91min 26sec (5486 seconds)

Published: Thu Apr 14 2022

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[u/sriracha82]

They spent literally 10 minutes waxing poetic about Mark Jackson and how great he is and saying he should have a coaching job…watch him get hired this offseason off this lol

Other than that nothing really to highlight other than Steph saying he thinks he’s gonna play game 1

Oh and Draymond was apparently joking about going to see Lebron break the scoring record

(Overall Iguodala’s podcast convo with Steph was waay more interesting, this was like 75% about brand deals and marriage)

[u/A1cp666]

Imagine actually trading Steph for bogut. WOW shoutout to those Milwaukee doctors! Lmao