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so i think we're live right we're a broadcast is live okay perfect hi everyone good uh good morning good afternoon good evening depending on where you're logging in from uh it's a pleasure to welcome you uh to the open business council summit uh and a special panel that we have focused on smart cities and the circular economy my name is jeremy mussman i'm a partner with the global law firm of dla piper and i head up our israel practice group i'm based in tel aviv originally from the us i moved to television about 12 years ago to start our practice uh which is very heavily focused on the technology sector here and we've had a great privilege over the last number of years of being very entrenched in the world of smart cities uh and various technologies that emanate from this geography uh it's a real privilege to be here with you all today and i want to thank my good friend peter chun for inviting me uh to this forum and and welcoming me and and really giving me the opportunity to interact with some wonderful uh and esteemed professionals i wanted to just i think we've had some last minute changes to our panel i wanted to introduce our panel uh we have professor joao amato neto who's a phd and specialist of sustainability and circular economy who's based in the university of sao paulo we have william wu who's president of one for city who now happens to be i believe in asia but is normally based in london and we are also joined by peter chun himself who is the president of the world uh smart cities forum uh we never know where peter is exactly in the world i think now he's in new york uh he travels the world i think more than any of us uh on this line combined uh but it's a real privilege to to welcome um each of the panelists so obviously we have a very important topic uh the whole the whole concept of smart cities which on so many levels has has has made has created such an impact in the world uh with respect to sustainability with respect to conservation um and and its impact is uh truly um it's had such a strong impact when it comes to office design when it comes to how people are interacting in their own cities with their utilities it's thinking about mobility it's thinking about safe water uh waste preservation waste management there's so many areas that that touch upon our day-to-day lives that are subsumed within smart cities and we've seen thankfully many many examples of various cities around the world that have incorporated such amazing technologies that that truly have moved the needle and have made various cities much more sustainable and we'll talk about specific examples and there are a lot of points and questions to to discuss certainly especially in the midst of the of the year that we've all just had uh with covid some of us are coming out of kovit a little bit quicker some geographies are are certainly very much still within it but understanding how smart cities are working uh in the wake of covid and what's changed and what not is is something that will definitely touch upon with our panelists so the format for the next 45 minutes or so 45-15 minutes is each of our three panelists has a presentation i'm gonna turn over the mic to each of them they'll talk for somewhere between 10 and 15 minutes say and then we'll go right to the we'll have three presentations consecutively and then hopefully we'll have time at the end for 10 15 minutes uh of some uh panel discussion and q a and whatnot so uh with that i uh i'm going to turn over the mic and ask joao uh to uh to please present uh what he has and then we'll go from there william will follow joao and peter will uh go last okay thank you all okay good morning everyone thank you very much for the invitation uh to participate in this open business summit it's a very pleasure to share our research our knowledge concerning two circular economy and sustainable production system specifically i'm going to talk about uh equal industrial parks and sustainable local development talking about some principles models and applications this research was supported by national council for scientific and technological development in brazil i'm from university of sao paulo department of production engineering and polytechnic school and nowadays i'm the president of the board of directors of gonzolin foundation that's a foundation that promotes some a connection between university and the community and the society and so on i i'd like to share my presentation i have to picture um share screen let me see can you see my slide here not yet not yet i don't i don't see it i don't know okay maybe now and now yes we see it okay okay so uh as i said before uh i'm going to talk about this issue eco-industrial parks and sustainable local development uh and try to point out some principles models in the application uh first of all i'd like to to talk about the framework that support this is work uh as i said i'm talking about industrial ecology based on circular economy and sustainability principles and you can deal with this issue in three kinds of dimensions the first one is the firm level where you can deal with eco design for new products also deal with pollution prevention eco-efficiency and green accounting in the second level is the second between firms this is the exact point that i'm i'm talking about talking about eco-industrial parks and industrial symbiosis in fact this is the main concept that support study this work also we can deal with product life cycles and collective initiatives qualitative initiatives in order to promote the sustainable production system or closed loop production models and also in the third level we can deal with the circular economy and sustainability in in the level of global or regional uh talking about for example if material in energy flow studies and dematerialization and decarbonization but in this study we will concentrate in the second level talking about industrial ecology between first okay the main concept here is industrial ecology understood as a branch of environment size that analyze the industrial system in an integrated way that's it considering its involvement with surrounding biophysical environment as well as the ecosystem in which it is certain it falls within the context of circular economy and sustainable development policies again the concept of industrial symbiosis could be understood as association or connection of companies process in which a way that the results of one one plant one company serve as input as a raw material for the other in as many relationships as necessary to so that ideally a closet circle is constituted without waste the target is zero waste in this in this concept so based on the last two concept we can you can see the concept of eco-industrial parks a circle eco-industrial parks is a community of businesses operating with each other and with local society to share resources efficiently research as information energy water materials infrastructure and natural resources leading to economic gains gains in terms of quality of environment and terms also human research equity in businesses in the local community so eq industrial parks are based on the principles of industrial ecology and industrial symbiosis as i mentioned before suggesting an industrial system operating similarly a natural ecological system okay let's continue here we can point out some main objectives of cooperation or symbiosis between local actors in a specific region the objectives are recycle of materials and energy reuse cooperation for improvement and integration of production processes cooperation in development of sustainable products address it to a common social responsibility and promoting of inter-company learning in the generation of knowledge here we can analyze the industrial symbiosis in their co-industrial parks in three different stages in three different parts the first one the stage of beginning companies begin to share resources for different purposes a planet cooperation in the first stage sorry in the second stage is the stage we can call discovery when we find if this that some networks generate positive and negative externalities externalities is a concept very important in this discussion discussion within a circular economy and sustainable production system okay and the last stage is the station stage of integration the network expansion is intentionally conducted by some institutionalized organization so we can show you some cases some international cases of industrial parks we map 26 different eco equal industrial parks in china there are eq industrial parks shared in all china territory okay if you have some time you can discuss some case particular cases uh the the next case in fact is the most famous case of uh symbiosis industrial symbiosis and eco industrial parks is the case of kalindberg eco-industrial in denmark uh this is equal in the soil parks start with the energy power station is the center of this arrangement and after that since the 1980s it was developing these eco-industrial parks with buying selling of by products between companies in energy construction agriculture fudge farming oil pharmaceutical and fertilizer sectors is a very very complex industrial parks and a very well developed eco industrial parks in denmark in fact this eco-industrial is a kind of paradigm for all all the world all experience recent experiencing in this issue the beginning as i said before we had the installation of dunk energy power station played a key role in promoting industrial symbiosis between companies in that region and a growing number of companies are being attracted to that region this growth has been coordinated very well by super abusing the entities uh including the local government we can point out two important institutions that support these industrial parks in columburg first one is the environment club which has become an important forum for discussions between representatives of companies local public authorities the municipality agriculture agriculture and various organizations linked to environmental protections the second important institution is kalundberg symbol center which has its main mission deliberation of projects research projects for the implementation of new industrial plants in these equal parts based on the analysis found on scientific and technological aspects then another important case is in canada the bernstein eco park industrical park bernstein one of canada's largest industrial parks a cover inspection of 2 and 500 actuaries more than 2000 companies and approximately 300 000 people are located in these eco parks the companies present in bernstein are from different sectors with 36 printing companies 21 paint and link distribution companies 19 chemical companies 20 computer assembly and repair companies 32 automotive repair facilities and 70 metal processing companies in addition to this we can see that bernstein also has a wide range of companies in the food services healthcare communications construction retail and transport sectors here the last case is the eco parts brazilian eco-parts in benevides benefits is a small city located in the north of brazil in the amazon region in paradise state aligned with the goal of attracting new investments and business to the amazon deco park in benefits we also have space to accommodate other companies interested in making sustainable use of social biodiversity assets in the area of 172 hectares the project this project of benefits equal industrial parks was inspired by the concept of industrial symbiosis again which connects companies with complementary needs generating synergy and greater efficiency in you in the use of research water energy and so on this is how the the vice president of operations in logistics of nature this is the name of the company that promoted these eco industrial parks natura is a company that produce performs and cosmetics products okay it's very well known company in terms of circular economy and sustainability here in brazil it's very no company as a conclusion we can say that generally the real difference of these industrial formations uh echo industrial parks based on symbiosis industrial symbiosis concepts are linked to circular economy industrial symbiosis as i said is it still in an embryonic stage nowadays as for the degree of development of process integration in the research equidistant parks most cases are still in the embryonic stages is protein few industrial parks have evolved to the intermediate stages uncovering and only a few of them are at a higher stage of development in the evolution of industrial symbiosis when you can see embeddedness and institutionalization stages among these cases among these eco parks there are the industrial parks of kalongberg as i mentioned before the most famous and certainly the most integrated eco industrial parks but we can uh point out also some chinese eco parks social new research and so industrial parks and also getting group in taiwan just to conclude kalundberg remains as a world paradigm concerning integration among industrial factors and among these industries and other organizations based on a community in local government okay this is a short presentation thank you very much this is my email and my the name of my research group cooperation networks and knowledge management thank you very much for the opportunity if you have any questions i'm okay just to be terrible thanks joao that was really thank you very much for the the audience thank you very much for this opportunity that was fascinating what a great what a great presentation you touched upon really so many important uh topics and i'm sure i don't know if there is a framework on our platform right now for lots of questions maybe we'll we'll we'll monitor the chat but if not uh the fact that you were able to provide your contact information hopefully anyone who has any questions for zhao who will be able to send uh you know anything to him directly um now we're gonna thank you very much jeremy of course thank you now we're gonna turn over the mic to william wu of one fourth city okay so let me share my screen and good morning good afternoon good evening to everybody and my name is william and i'm currently located in shanghai but most of my time was based in london which is just due to pandemic i just get my family back to shanghai and you know spend a couple months right here just and also get some business ongoing as well so let me introduce from an industrial perspective maybe on the smart cities and circuit economy and i'm trying to share my screen and hopefully you can see my screen though not yet there we go there we go it looks like yeah now we see okay so um i'm going to introduce one for city as a one-stop technological solution platform uh which presents a lot of the smart city solutions but that's partially you know to be based on my personal experiences in the past so i will give you an overview about where do i come from so that you know who is talking to you actually and then i'll use a few smart city industrial cases that i personally have delivered and in the past to give a flavor about my perspectives on smart cities especially okay so um very quickly about me so i was a uh i was a graduate from imperial college london um in the uk and currently the managing director for one for city i'm also on a part-time basis as the ai expert advisor for the eit you know as part of the european uh commission organization and i've spent most of my time in my in my life at cisco so as a part of the original strategic innovation group in cisco based in london and uh really looking at you know multi-million pounds innovation projects over there and um you know lots of them are smart city related so not necessarily all at the scale of a city level uh you know a ton level but actually lots of the animation technology invasion projects we have got involved in uh part of the smart cities you know talking about uh euvs and the energy trading between electrical vehicles and the national grid for example talking about the uh smart building management systems uh iot sensor uh iot sensor cyber securities and also talking about the connecting authors vehicles we do have got test beds in london olympia park so these are a part of the you know smart city branch but we also have got a smart city project uh running in the past and currently uh got a few incentives afterwards so i'll give you a bit of flavor on that as well um and also i i'm an existing advisor for infield college tyson school uh you probably have heard about dyson definitely and and also you know a couple of the other uh small titles uh which could potentially expand uh my remit to to help the world and to help different regions to grow their understanding and also development for the smart cities for example so i was jumped straight to his case before i introduced one for city or whatsoever so what i'm going to talk about today is the city birth and city birth is a manchester-based iot city demonstrator initiative so when i talk about this initiative it was a ongoing so it was initiated about five years ago but it is still an ongoing effort and that actually implies that you know any smart tone development any smart city development or even when professor jl you know he mentioned what's the equal parts in china which i have uh quite a hell of a lovely experiences in in engaging with lots of them actually understanding what their perspectives understanding what do they need when they actually build up the eco parks and these are all the ongoing a long term development kind of exercise it's never been a short-term exercise for smart city developments so so although the project itself has a timeline and there was initiated five years ago but um it is an ongoing uh exercise for for the region the city city world as itself is a project it's a project which has attracted about 16 million pounds from the uk government and also jointly with the 20 digit partners into a single project whereas in this project cisco is the industrial lead for the project it is built in a two kilometer square innovation corridor in manchester so along the oxford roads and you do have got a variety of the um of the setup around the road so you do have got university campus you have got about three or four hospitals and also you definitely have businesses you know uh resident residential areas and also an industrial park so-called manchester science park uh in this two kilometer region the project was delivered by these 20 partners and you can see that it's a combination of public sectors and private sectors and so we have got city council we have got transport for greater manchester we have got central manchester university hospitals which is we call the cmft and we also have got some large organizations like cisco and bt and also siemens are leading the uh the the angles of the project and inevitably if you are looking at the smart city solutions you know having the right interface with the individuals with people on the grounds we're talking about the human center design you really need to focus on the human needs you talk about the persona design to look at the requirement from individuals in the society for the smart city requirements so we do have got a bunch of smas working on this project as well looking at different perspectives so for example sat safe is a vehicle device sensing company and looking at how they would be able to strengthen the driver behavior in your local regions a lot of the young drivers they don't really you know sometimes they are because of their age they probably they probably don't drive very safely around their car or for their cars in the city and that's an issue for manchester we also are looking at the water infrastructure in the city using building management systems as an example so an organization called spata digital and they are looking at how they would be able to implement implement their water sensors uh to detect the water temperature in the pipes of a building management system and and to be able to smart it remotely and control the uh the water temperature at the right threshold in between the right threshold that would ensure the drinking water to be safely delivered to the buildings to the spaces and to individuals we also have got universities in the project as well which i will skip but there are two university ones is manchester university and the other is manchester united university so apparently we have a ax program to deliver the project which is quite important because if you don't have a skeleton you wouldn't you would always be stuck with a lot of the talking rather than hand and get the hands onto the jobs so what we did is i personally remember i i stayed in the medicine hotel for for about two months because i i was based in london and the reason why i was staying over there for about two months was because i continuously conducted a number of the workshops with all the partners to flesh out what kind of use cases what kind of technologies that could be bundled together to deliver to deliver the target for the smart to the smart city program and then we decided that we would have four pillars right here as you can see on the screen and initially we have got about 150 use cases you know starting from all the requirements from the city councils from the local individuals from from the local businesses to the uh the narrow down uh the realizable feasible solutions that can actually happen on the ground and we sort of narrow that down in between 20 in between 15 to 20 use cases that we actually deliver on the ground so i won't go into too much detail just constant time and these are the four verticals that we have looked into and you can see every single bullet point right here uh actually including the use cases that we actually have got involved combining the technologies and the user requirements on the ground so apparently you have got you need to as i mentioned you know you have to go a program a structure to be able to deliver a vast smart city program on the right hand side on the left hand side you've got a design engage looking at how would you be to design how would you be able to engage different type of stakeholders to cope with their requirements but on the right hand side you have to intersect with the development and deployment cyber securities digital privacies trust voices these are the highlighted issues for every single use case that you want to really look into but actually they are quite different when you talk about different use cases you need to look at the common systems the network and infrastructure data management analytics please bear in mind that you know when you talk about the smart city program you're actually talking about the integration of different data data silos the current asylum silent data sets as databases to put them together to not only integrate them for example in the transport sector but also horizontally intersect between transport and energy and environment for the smart city use case development so to be able to integrate these different type of data sets it's a technological issue but more more importantly it is a political and also social science issue that you will need to set up the standards and the game rules for managing the data and for managing analytics in other words how the question is what would you be able to open what about private data what about the public data how would you be able to intercept them together into into the purpose for developing those use cases so then we we talk about development applications we talk about interoperabilities and common data handling and don't forget what is quite important as a bottom lens is implementation and evaluation so we will talk about how would you be able to evaluate the impact of those smart city use cases you need to look at the baselines starting from day one to look at what's the current baselines for the use cases that you're tapping to and then you want to really look at the benefits realization for your smart city use case situation all right just come some time i'll skip a little bit over and also importantly is your public awareness so you want to raise the public awareness to really engage more public more more individuals like you and me the citizens who actually living in this city who care about the ongoings happening around them so that you want to increase the influence of the sphere of the influence of what you're doing in our smart city program so that's what we do we look at the interviews we have conducted dozens of the interviews to broadcast the perspectives from transport authorities perspectives from city authorities perspectives from the technologists and also the individuals on the ground and and integrate them into a and also broadcast them through different channels right okay so hopefully that gives you a bit of flavor about you know a smart city program we have come across and we use that as a you know five years ago we use that as one of flagship projects to continue our understanding of doing the actual grounded and influential smart city programs um afterwards so that actually creates a wonderful city and this is what one for city is developed for so we have got involved in lots of the innovative technological solutions as mentioned it doesn't need to be always need to be on a smart city level because on the tongue level on a city level it's pretty high it's it really involves lots of stakeholding management but actually if you look at the individual technological solutions for example flood management systems the risk management for flooding for example as mentioned the healthy agent in local regions looking at the urban areas semi-urban rural areas the social care management systems are quite different for different types of locations and also looking at the investment incentives again the rural area and urban hearing and infrastructure investments will be slightly different in terms of incentives and that would also influence how would you be able to deliver the smart city related solutions as well so that's why i would i'm a person who is firmly believed that it's not just about smart cities it is also about the key elements different types of elements which have assisted within a smart city program okay so i'll skip this so some of the key competencies that one for city is about this is more or less about the one for city uh firm philosophy so we have got involved in a award-winning exercise you know we developed a smart city smart tone actually dated back to 2018 and we won the top five in 19 and we won the top one in 2020 as a smart city as a smart town a ranking exercise in in china we also got involved in some china uk newton fund to look at a smart farming exercise a smart farming project combining the strengths from the both the uk and chinese based organizations to co-develop a smart farming solution together and from one for city perspectives we try to use different products to facilitate the development of all smart cities so first one is technology innovation search engine we try to consolidate our understandings and also innovation technological solutions onto a single database and then flash it out and then output it into a search engine so that once you use the search engine you would be quickly to you know get into the category of the of the sectors you want to flip into so for example if you are interested in environmental parts in smart cities or if you are more or less into the energy sector underneath the smart city program you could use the search engine to look into the existing international solutions technologies coming from our database to find a fit with what you are looking for we also have a data exchange platform which has been used in both the uk and chinese smart cities to deliver again to deliver data management analytics which are highlighted just now it's a key question to look at you know different incentives for managing those different data sets coming from different sources sometimes they have public data sometimes they have private data and you do have got different constraints for managing those different data from different sources which is a key source for delivering any use cases underneath the smart city program so there will be key steps to develop any smart city solutions uh which has been highlighted right here so master planning design data architecture only collaboration commercialization and continuous evaluation which is quite consistent with logic with the philosophy we have learned from the past smart city program as i just uh just examples in the city world project here is some of the smart city projects we have delivered you know one is uh in china uh joshua chung island as mentioned this this is the award-winning project we have probably you know got involved into we also helped the the uk uh birkin hampshire uh to construct their city platform apparently they've got about 11 different silos um different different 11 different silos how do we call that different silo units underneath a a local authority uh this is the usual exercises uh activities all the time and they want to look at what possibilities to build up a horizontal landscape data sets and and landscape information platform and we help them to create art we also got involved in uh janxi which is a a province in china again to develop and and to plan and develop their smart town over there as well and i also mentioned was the uh the farming project as well okay so i think i probably will just stop here and i'm more than happy really to discuss more any of these things more into details and happy to to reconvene back to you by jeremy thank you thanks william that was really that was really great and and i think that your presentation really reflects uh a very important um characteristic of smart cities in the sense that it's not all or nothing right like it all it all boils down to the components and at the end of the day if you're trying to effect change and you're trying and you're recognizing that you know when you're dealing at the intersection of technology academia and government things aren't changing overnight and so you have to find a project or two projects to be able to run with and be able to prove adoption and be able to prove that there's opportunity here and so what struck me just even on your last slide was um you know the the the specific examples whether it was the potato disease whether it was a you know a specific product like potatoes or whether it's a specific industry like retail or catering that you had on the manchester side i think pick your industry pick your product try to develop something around it to show adoption into tr and and to show that there's uh benefit and savings etc and then hopefully you know that creates an aura on an effect that continues to spread and you know gets more and more people to buy into the concept so great great job that was really a great presentation okay we're now gonna turn it over to peter uh who's gonna provide our last presentation peter you're and you're on mute yeah sorry about that so thank you very much for the introduction jeremy and uh very appreciated your all dedications and presentations from wow and william so it's very uh uh it's very exciting um the presentations that we can just probably maybe matching you know together and probably maybe we can just discuss more after my speech and with the uh during the panel discussion so let me share with you about what we just do uh now for small city projects around the world so currently we are working on the the projects in seven different countries and um the one of the significant projects we are actually working on with the master plan and also the implementation level of the establishment of small city is in vietnam and ukraine and here in the united states and new york city probably state and also the sun boroughs in london we are we have been partnering up with in many different organizations including the i t department and national trade of the uk government and we have mandates from the multiple central governments and municipalities for example hanami city government we have our partnership we have mandates from them and to initiate a small city in hanoi since last year uh and we actually miss the midst of the providing the at the implementation level master plan by the end of this year and we locally we have the assigning agreement actually next tuesday with the central government of ukraine so uh throughout that uh we have some sort of this accomplishment to uh making us kind of um you know blueprints for the uh the the communities and local citizens and the governments uh you know the bureaucrats and how to just engage themselves uh with the uh the next level of the small city because we have uh we all know that we have suffered from the equivalent of 19 pandemic so the definition and approachness of the small city will be a little bit different from the past so this is something that we're trying to work on right now so i'd like to share the slides just let me know if you see this yeah we see that okay all right so we have three different entities so worst mercedes forum is london uh based non-profit organization so every mandate agreement we're dealing with uh the local governments and central governments based based on the the agreements where the worst mass status form so um other two entities al-qaeda labs based in new york and accenture based in both london and new york is they have different roles and accenture for example they it has nurtured the many different uh the text startups and smes around the world and specifically uh we went through the level 39 ecosystem which is europe's largest open tech cluster in london more than 400 startups throughout the ecosystem about more than 13 companies become unicorns so we're trying to combine these massity initiatives with innovation ecosystem throughout the uh the disruptive technologies around the world alkyl lab's major goals and mission is to raise the funds to support the s pc which is a special purpose corporation to um you know the security uh the the financial resources as well as the many different uh the resources to support the the projects for the you know the cities and the the central government and uh four major functions out of this alkyl labs or smart cities foreign consortium is we deliberate master plan there are two different types of master plan the first one is basic concept design and um the second one is implementation level and also the the part of the spc to giving the specific goals and um the missions to every stakeholders of the spc small city tech sandbox is the one of the distinctive um the characteristic of what we are trying to do basically about 30 of the budget will go directly to the startups which they actually go through the the core programs so uh 12 months is actually default the time period of time period of the core programs to validate their solutions and technology and services and we also do technology transfer uh and also commercial litigations and also the small space the global scale fund and uh we also be helping the uh the city government and municipalities to raise the scale up fund to uh to give away some specific money to the stakeholders inside of the projects as well and philosophy is very simple thing because um a lot of countries in asia and even africa and middle east they are focusing on how to build the um the new development type of the projects in their own countries or cities but most important thing is uh just like the fingerprints of the human being they you know cities can be cannot be the same because every city has their own culture history and economic level so we're trying to embrace more people coming in to experience uh what the small city is really about um so we our philosophy is based on the you know people or the human or citizens put as one the upfront lines so people centricity or human centric city kind of design is something that we are pursuing right now so uh for other angles to support this kind of concept of course we need to have a specific data so which is public data or even private data so data-driven economy uh is one of the things that we have to accomplish uh throughout the uh the projects or initiatives technologies and innovation is also the key because the every city needs to be much more you know the sustainable economic economically so trying to make the city much more economic sustainable in a way of the innovation and also the the new technologies and environmental friendly ecosystem is also very important so that's why everybody's talking about esg these days it's not really um you know uh easy to say this environment the friendly ecosystem but this is something that the human being or human race needs to uh pursuing throughout the uh smart city initiatives everywhere uh connecting the global cities because the one small city cannot be the big market so to collaborate among those cities and doing this kind of initiatives eventually will produce the the very better and strong environment and also the market itself so this is something that uh very important to support the concept of people centricity let me just give you there's a couple of examples that we are actually working on right now so one is vietnam and another one is ukraine so both countries are developing countries stage but it's also they're located very very important uh reasons uh also they are very much potential uh that's why we are actually really interested in engaging uh this initiative so since uh back in 2016 so vision for uh for example vision for ukrainian smart city is small city and innovation of eastern europe so um we have a lot of potentials in the eastern europe area even also the um the middle east area so uh we trying to balance the economic power or the level of the um the citizenship and um also innovation in europe to much more focusing on the eastern europe area core value is a pursuit of happiness and sustainable sharing economy and job creation and clean uh eco-friendly city innovation future city technologies those are four are the values that the city of any cities in ukraine we're actually focusing on lev and kiev but these two cities could be maybe achieving these kind of goals within the next five years uh location in vietnam we targeted on the major district of hanoi which is kappa city of vietnam back in 2018 donald trump of the united states and also the leader of kim jong-un of north korea they actually had a summit talk so this area is very meaningful because it's old city but it's diversity existing there because you can see that western uh type of culture mixed with the local conventional culture combined so most of the um the people like traveling to vietnam they visit this area so even though the population is only 400 000 people living in there but more than 2 million people annually they visit this area this district to fill the real culture of vietnam so we are focusing on here as the urban regeneration and also digital transformation the main themes in hawaii smart city for example even it applies to ukrainian cities as well and smart mobility smart water digital small city energy efficiency safe and living those are four different concepts then under this pillars we actually uh define subcategories which will become the specific projects in the end also we can talk about the themes and we can talk about the technologies as i said technology is not the major goals of the small city is actually this you know the people and citizens and governors they can take advantage of the technologies and solutions because just like a human being and this technologies and solutions also you know eventually evolved so uh based on the evolution we uh probably just uh the build up the better ecosystem that any kind of disruptive technology solution can be applied to the city so um you know recently we are working on you know building the better iot systems in the city and ai cloud blockchain big data and also other network can be uh you know embedded in the city in terms of uh when when it comes to technologies we're talking about uh there are many different types of services technology can be embedded in the city but it depends on how we define the uh the projects which is new development we can call it as maybe uh you know green uh field projects urban regeneration you know brownfield uh projects it depends on defining the city or district and we can uh probably bring the uh some of the distinctive uh technologies as one of the top priorities in that area there are five um common grounds uh for these two uh initiatives and projects in vietnam and ukraine so we are built we're trying to build up the innovative tech smart city or smart tech city uh with bringing up with its master's tech sandals and open data open science digital twin kind of concept as also the open factory so these three things are the kind of engines to support the uh economic uh ecosystem and the platform because the city can be city should be uh you know independent in terms of the creating of jobs or boosting up the in the industry as the kind of the future engine for the city and open greek data city which is also data market is very important because of people are not really aware of what the data is really um meaningful to the the citizens or the people living in the city i think that the um the sharing the data and also the taking advantage of the data from private sectors as well as public sectors are very important so uh trying to create the kind of the hub or the models or platform to how the data can be shared and also can be [Music] the real businesses for the smes or the tech startups and the living lab hub or network we just call it as connecting the global cities as i said um the small city initiatives around the world uh i don't believe that there's like big such a big success model at the moment every single city project is ongoing uh process but in the end these cities should be sharing their experiences and also their uh you know the successful cases or even failure cases so trying to bring the other cities to find out the mutual interest or the common ground together then we can actually create the better markets or you know the innovation friendly markets then this is uh something that we have to pursue as well civic experience innovation technologies i also think that almost more than 70 percent of the concept of the small city cannot be seen which is invisible and only 20 30 will be visible but uh it should be uh spread out and also shared by the citizens of stakeholders small cities and the people uh should experience what they're trying to use even we're just talking about uh sharing call systems or electric car systems and even the uh protecting um themselves from chronovirus for example and so and how to just share the data and also the how to uh drink the the you know uh the clean water for example throughout the uh the water purification systems or energy and also the mobility and transportation systems and even security and any kind of the the technology solutions life and culture i think that this is also important that people easily understand what kind of values they can get from their experience or the usage of those kind of concepts i mean the solutions from the the small city projects and as i said uh 20 30 of uh you know small city can be visible and i see that these are the something that the people can easily understand this is a small city as an infrastructure so uh some of the developing countries as well as develop the countries they have to move on they have to move forward to shift their uh conventional economy to the next level or you know small jump or quantum jump throughout the new experience i think that a lot of cases even in the united states uh you can see that also the a lot of efforts by tesla or amazon even we just like sharing this you know materials and the discussions throughout the stream yard and zoom and so this is actually new experience and based on the infrastructure so um this is actually totally depends on the definitions of the local governments and also local uh the communities we can actually define the infrastructures for each one of them uh small city tax sandbox uh is is very important as well um as i said uh about 30 of the budget should go directly to the startups which is actually very highly successful or uh proven themselves in a way of uh providing their solutions and services into the public so we just going through um the specific you know time period to prove their solutions and technologies to the public and trying to help them out to solve their problems foster them and eventually validate everything and about 25 percent that percent out of them they actually are they deserve to win the beat for the small city project as well so this is a basic uh diet diagram and how they the you know the candidates of startups they actually go through it takes about one two years they jumping into the smart city tech sandbox and every different projects and they just in you know uh uh develop their uh you know services and solutions in some certain level and they can be picked by the the city government or spc and eventually they you know secure the projects and they dedicate themselves into the the smart city initiatives and in the end they can actually uh raise more funds from the syndicate fund of the small city you know uh the entities and also they can relocate themselves into the other uh smart city projects they can expand themselves to the global market and this is official smart city tech sandbox platform we're just going through accenture.co um we're dealing with the some of the projects here in new york city throughout the the prop tech hub and uh also ukrainian smart cities and vietnamese in our cities this is the floor chart of the smart city tech sandbox and investment and also spc and investment flow can be based on pppa level so the we anticipate about 20 25 percent from the government and the rest of them from the the public uh private sectors to achieve the very strong goals and from both sides and also we anticipate new special law on small cities and deregulation you know scheme will be also applied to this kind of initiatives as well i think that i have to stop here so i can i'm glad i'll be glad to share my insights more uh during the hour kind of discussions thank you very much and back to you jeremy thanks peter that was fascinating really uh each each of your presentations was was superb and uh enlightening and there's a lot for us to to all learn unfortunately i mean they were so great and there was so much detail but unfortunately we're nearing the end of our session we only have a few minutes left i'll just ask maybe one or two quick questions for your quick reflection um one that that comes to mind uh is the more that i learned about smart cities and the more that i learned about circular economy and and and and what's going on you know on one hand it's beyond impressive it's beyond um encouraging and empowering and obviously it's dramatically helped so many cities on the other hand i'm curious as to how you each um think about conflicts that arise within the context of a smart city you could have conflicts vis-a-vis the government you might have for example the municipal government the local government is very uh very much behind the smart city concept wants to put dollars behind it wants to create these partnerships but there might be competing interests that the state and and federal level you know when i think about this past year and you look at cities like new york for example that was the city of new york was at odds with the state of new york that was at odds with the united states federal government i know that's just one example but i know that there are many other circumstances where the interests of the city might not necessarily be in sync with the interests of you know the broader community and so that's one type of conflict you could have uh conflict vis-a-vis big business you know i saw various statistics that 75-80 of the income coming into municipalities often time come oftentimes come through a big oil and um raw materials and end products that create waste etc and that obviously is counter to the concept of circularity and what smart city is trying to do so on one hand you don't want to upset your base uh in terms of the income that's coming in on the other hand of course you want to promote sustainability and then the last one that i saw was just as an example the indig the indigent community you know the the the poor the uh the poor in any given city they you already have with them an informal circular economy they're buying used goods they're going into thrift shops etc and you know i saw you know various points that for cities that move forward in in the world of of smart technology and circularity so is that going to increase the product the cost of circular products um you know you might have in certain cities you might have demolished buildings that from a sustainability perspective you might want to repurpose into a new set of apartment buildings or something like that but on the other hand you have poor people that are living in slums and maybe you want to open up um you know these buildings to them and again new york city just as an example of what happened at the beginning of covet so it's just it's a it's a broader question as to how you deal with um conflict and and sort of in your vision of smart city how do you do that again we only have three four minutes so maybe i'll just ask each of you to just uh you know quick thought uh you know that that sort of jumps to your mind why don't we uh joao why don't we come to you first you're on mute you're still on youtube thank you sorry thank you thank you very much i'm very glad to participate with this summit again and to share our knowledge and opinion about this important issue concerning to smart cities and sustainable cities also in my opinion there are some of course convergence between these two dimensions the smart cities and sustainable cities we can we can deal with these different fields of research and different areas in terms of public and private actions okay uh but i think that a lot of uh elements of smart cities a lot of uh electronic devices and uh a lot of technologies concerning to smart cities conception would be improve the sustainable sustainable cities sustainable uh system that we can applied to improve the quality life of the population uh mainly in big cities like sao paulo uh new york london or in big cities in china in asia around the world in general but i think there are four main actions that we can improve in terms of uh to reach the circular economy and sustainable cities uh mainly the first one is recycling recycling uh actions uh mainly when we refer to the manufacturing system there are a lot of uh very important initiatives of companies the natura that i mentioned before there is a plant in the north of brazil it's a one of uh very important case but there are a lot of examples in clothing and food companies here in brazil the second action is the reuse we use materials reuse energy reuse water and also this is an important approach in terms of manufacturing production system in terms of closed-looping production system the third one is reduce a lot of actions to reduce the consumption of water energy and raw material also and the last one is remanufacturing remanufacturing i think it's the most important and most complex action in terms of a circular economy and close-looping productions a lot of automakers around the world are developing some new projects in order to reach this kind of level of circular economy the manufacture remanufacturing system also a lot of uh electronic companies that produce a lot of electronic devices computers iphones and so on uh are developed some projects in the next future to promote a remanufacturing system also at some point okay this is amazing yeah perfect um william how about you any any any kind of la and i think we'll make these last thoughts just because i think the technology is going to cut us off in the next two three minutes so uh okay um so yeah thank you joel and great insight quickly for me the challenges for smart cities the first step is really to define the boundaries when i talk about boundaries it could be physical boundaries and so we're talking about whether it's on a city level or it's actually a tongue level or actually as an equal part level or it's a street level for example we have come across the projects for all these four levels actually from my personal experience and that's quite important because the involved stakeholders for those different levels of smart city developments will be quite different and that means the interest coming from those different stakeholders will be different so that's actually a challenge number one is how would you like to define the boundaries of your smart city program as a as a starting point but secondly is what we have experienced in the past again is the conflict of interest from different stakeholders again for example when we look at the innovation projects smart media enterprises they do have the interest to really quickly demonstrate what they are capable of and then they hope that they will be able to use the smart tv program to engage with the key local sources to commercialize their solutions and that's what they do because they don't have much resources to spend too much time on it so we need to understand where they come from but from the local authorities they are more caring about their citizens they care about the economic and environment and social values within happening in their regions and you need to really be careful about that because you talk about difficulty uh digital privacy etc these kind of the ethical uh high level uh you know requirements as well and lastly is the sd how would you be able to integrate technologies with those requirements so as mentioned you do have got the dynamics between the public private data sharing and we all know that you know smart city is the great opportunity for you to reconsolidate the fragmented values or activities happening in your region and as well as data so technologies will be able to help with that but um again how do you design the technologies to help with that is a key challenge right here i just wanted to makes a tell of sense thank you uh peter will last word with you it's just like you know i we don't have much time but i totally agree with william and also how uh their perspectives and one more thing about the biggest challenge and obstacles for the you know you know building up the better small cities and circular economy is basically uh the politics and diplomacies and also so um that's why what would be some sort of the um the collaboration between the the public sectors and private sectors working together so that is something that is incredibly secure 100 makes sense well i i certainly look forward to a follow-up session because there's a lot more to talk about there were a lot more questions that i had i know there was a lot more that you wanted to say you each wanted to say and i'm sure that there were plenty of questions from the audience but we're going to have to cut it short here thank all of you very very much for all of your efforts for your hard work and preparing and taking the time this afternoon to present so from what i understand from peter and others over 100 000 uh people who have been paying attention and tuning in over the last couple of days to this amazing open business council summit i want to thank joao william peter for your wonderful insights again for all of your efforts it's been a pleasure spending the last hour with uh you all and look forward to our next opportunity together in the meantime stay safe be well and uh uh hopefully get to see each other in person soon thanks jeremy thank you thank you bye everyone to join me bye-bye thank you thank you william thank you very much
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