Should you buy a NEW Prusa MK4 in 2023 or rather a Bambu Lab X1/P1P?

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This box contains the brand new Prusa i3 MK4 the latest iteration of one of the world’s most popular 3D printers. Yet in a world where every 3D printing enthusiast currently wants to print faster and faster, is a bed-slinging 3D printer that costs $800 as a kit and $1100 assembled still relevant? I bought one on release day, printed now almost 200h with it, and am going to talk with you about its strengths and weaknesses and, of course, compare it to its biggest rivals Bambulabs X1 and P1P. Is the MK4 the machine many have been waiting for so long, or is it too little, too late? Let’s find out more. Guten Tag everybody, I’m Stefan and welcome to CNC Kitchen. This video is sponsored by VOXEL PLA. Get 1kg of their reliable PRO PLA for only $16.99 with free shipping in the US when ordering three spools or more. Visit them at voxelpla.com! Prusa’s last major i3 release, the MK3, was over 5.5 years ago, and even though mine used to be my daily driver with thousands of hours of printing on it, it does start to look really dated! The time of the old MK3 was also the time of the Ender-3, and its countless copies and derivatives. And even though the price tag of the flood of cheap Chinese 3D printers made 3D printing even more accessible, barely any of them really challenged Prusas offerings in the semi-professional niche. Well, until last year, when Bambulabs shook the market with their X1 and P1P 3D printers, which basically did everything better than any other commercial 3D printer at a price just around the $1000 mark. Many people said that this is going to be the end of Prusa because their current cash cow, the MK3 couldn’t compete with Bambulabs offering because it was basically 5 years old. Yet out of nowhere, two weeks ago, they announced their new MK4, ready to ship without crowdfunding or preorders. I purchased one, yes, with my own money because Prusa rarely gives away review samples for new products. So if you want to make my investment worthwhile and decide to buy a brand-new MK4 or an upgrade kit, consider using my links below. If you think I’m just a horrible Prusa shill, let me know why in the comments because I tried to take a look at it as objectively as possible! I got the assembled version which cost $1099, and after my intern Jan from JanTec, helped me take it out of the box and remove some foam bits, it was up and running seriously within 5 minutes. From a distance, it doesn’t look a lot different from an old MK3, and even the specs are almost similar. 300°C all metal hotend, 120°C heated bed with spring steel sheets, 250x210x210mm build volume. But if you give it a closer look, around 90% of the parts are new. We get thicker z-rods, an aluminum die-cast frame, and bed carrier, a sheet metal electronics box with finally a 32bit mainboard and ethernet and wifi connectivity, and noticeably thicker, still 3D-printed plastic components. Yet the most obvious difference is the big color screen in the front with a programmable LED bar below it, which is controlled via the well-known encoder dial. This seems to be a touchscreen, but the current firmware on the machine doesn’t use that feature yet. Unfortunately, this is a bit of a theme on the machine, and there are also some other features on the MK4 where the hardware is there, but the software doesn’t make use of it yet. The next obvious and also probably most important difference to the MK3 is the new toolhead with their new Nextruder. This is now a fully custom extrusion system without any off-the-shelf E3D V6 parts or Bondtech gears. And this is for good. Behind the feeder cover is the heart of the Nextruder, a planetary gearbox with a 10:1 gear ratio that drives the huge extruder gear onto which two idlers push the filament. This results in a huge contact area, reducing filament slipping and giving you more consistent extrusions regardless of the speed. Since the filament gets slightly bent around the extruder gear, it will be interesting to see how it handles super brittle filaments in the future. Flexibles on the complete opposite side of the spectrum work pretty well, and I could print the spaghetti-like 30D TPU from Fiberlogy at serious speed without a problem. When we move down to where the plastic gets molten, we can also find the MK4s new hotend. It’s neither a REVO nor REVO compatible, yet Prusa also adapted the combined multi-metallic nozzle heartbreak combination that eliminates plastic leaking problems. The nozzle-break the MK4 comes with is one piece, so you’ll have to change the whole part if you want to switch between diameters. Fortunately, Prusa is not as much locking you into their system as E3D does and offers these adapters that allow you to use all of your old V6 nozzles. The whole assembly with heater block, thermistor, and heater itself can now be way easier swapped because you simply undo two screws on the side to slide everything out after you unplugged the electronics from the new daughter board that sits at the back of the extruder. This board is a great addition because it allows you to change components without re-running the wires through the wiring loom. Unfortunately, it’s only a breakout board, so you still have a ton of individual wires back to the mainboard instead of a clean bus connection, as the Prusa XL, for example, uses. Yet this board still has some surprises, and one of them is the HX717 load cell amplifier. This chip is used to read the stain gauge attached to the aluminum piece that’s hotend heat sink and extruder mount simultaneously. This strain gauge forms a load cell, just like in your kitchen scale and allows the MK4 to do bed probing directly with its nozzles. This should eliminate all first-layer adjustments regardless of the nozzle or bed surface you use and since the MK4 only probes in the area you later print, you can even put a piece of cardboard on your bed and then print on it. So far, this system has been working really well for me, but the load sensor can do even more. Due to the shape of the aluminum piece, it can also sense the extrusion force, so with how much power the extruder needs to push the filament into the nozzle. This can potentially allow sensing a nozzle clog or any inconsistencies during extrusion. Unfortunately, this is also one of the several things where the hardware is already there, but the firmware isn’t ready yet. This load cell could also be a game changer in quality assurance for 3D prints if the Prusa team decides to monitor and evaluate the extrusion forces over a print and tell the user if everything was within a certain tolerance window. Regarding quality assurance, the heatsink has an additional thermistor to spot heat creep quickly. The last things to say about the new tool head is that it still has a filament runout sensor, a silent hotend cooling fan, and a new radial part cooling fan. At first glance, this looks like one of the underpowered 4010 fans that many Enders used, but it’s actually a powerful yet quiet 5010 blower. Talking about quiet operation. One thing I personally always enjoyed about my Pursas is how quiet they were during printing, especially in silent mode. The MK4 is still silent compared to most other printers, but I do have the feeling that the print noise of the MK4 is a bit louder than on its predecessor, and it also lacks a silent mode. Most might not even notice the difference, but since I’m a bit sensitive in that regard, I have to point this out. Overall, the printhead got lighter and doesn’t protrude out that much anymore, which is good if we also want to print faster with the new MK4. Currently, the MK4 is faster and saves with the standard printing profiles around 10 to 20% on printing time over the old MK3, yet it doesn’t come anywhere close to the speeds that Bambulabs printers can achieve. As I’ve shown in my last video, printing fast also comes with its own sort of problems, but even if we lower the speed of the X1 or P1P to something more reasonable, they are still significantly faster than Prusa MK4. I mean, nobody really expected this bed slinger to outperform a core XY with carbon rods. Prusa recently posted a video showing a 20-minute Benchy printed on an MK4, but that used a still unreleased alpha firmware with input shaping. Yes, the MK4 finally has a new 32-bit controller, allowing for easier implementation of advanced features. Still, it does not support any input shaping yet, which allows printing at high speeds and accelerations with only minimum ringing marks. And this is something I’m honestly a bit upset about. Prusa knew that this one of the features that people expected in the MK4, and they even mention it as the first feature on their shop page, but if you, by the time this video released, bought an MK4, you won’t be able to use it until they release it in the following months. As a paying customer, this theme of missing software features honestly bothers me a little because, even though I got a machine that works well right out of the box, the hardware could do more! The MK4 definitely was delayed due to parts shortages in the last years, but I would have hoped that they used the time to have some essential features that distinguish them from the masses ready and working once this machine ships. I know this sounds easier than it is in reality, but I’m sure many feel like myself. Fortunately, Prusa has quite a good track record supporting and improving their machines over the years with software and small hardware updates. This is why I’m also, in a way, really looking forward to the day once features like input shaping, the touch screen, or more use of the load cell will be added via an update! Talking about updates. Prusa, once again, offers hardware upgrades for the old MK3, to get some or even all features of the MK4 in your MK3. The MK3.5 upgrade will give you the 32-bit electronics with network connectivity and the color screen. The MK3.9 upgrade will also add the Nextruder with load cell, and if you spend almost as much as a complete MK4 kit, you can upgrade your Mk3 to a MK4 and get everything, including the new 0.9° stepper motors that are supposed to eliminate the Vertical Fine Artefacts the MK3 was haunted with. So let’s get to the print quality and compare it to the MK3 and also the Bambulab X1. Most of the parts I tested were printed in VOXELPLA PRO, which brings me to this video’s sponsor. VOXELPLAs filaments sell for only $16.99 per 1 kilo spool. They ship free within the US if you order 3 or more spools, and if you need if larger quantities, they offer even bulk discounts. VOXELPLA just introduced 3 new colors: lavender purple, ice clear, and forest green. They are, together with all original colors in stock and ready to ship out the same day. VOXELPLA developed their PRO material for their own print farm where they run 150 production machines, so you can be sure that you’ll get a reliable material for your own projects or your business. So if you live in the US and want to restock your filament, visit them at voxelpla.com. Thanks to VOXELPLA for sponsoring this video! So first thing first. Comparing the print result from a MK3 and a MK4 made me realize how bad the horizontal artifacts on the old machine really were. All the prints that I did on the new MK4 looked really good, and the only surface defects I was still able to sport were some ringing artifacts at sharp corners and a tinie tiny bit of salmon skin, yet you really need to look for them if you want to find them. I would really like to know if the salmon skin is caused by the old TMC2130 drives that the MK4 still uses. Maybe one of you has a deeper insight. Yet, the big question everyone has is how the print results of the MK4 compare to the Bambulabs machines. The first big difference is that many prints with the stock profiles come out matte on the X1, due to the high print speed and extrusion rate about which I talked in my last video. Otherwise, Bambus prints look really well with even a bit smoother surfaces compared to the MK4 up to the point where the input shaper used to get rid of the ringing marks also rounds out some corners, losing a bit of the fine details. Overall print quality of the MK4 is a significant step forward to the MK3 and basically on par with Bambulabs machines. The new cooling solution also seems to do a good job. Once Prusa implements the input shaper, we might even be able to get rid of the slight ringing artifacts that we see at sharp corners. Since the MK4 still lacks some major features, this can’t be a full review of the machine, but using it over the last two weeks showed that it is, in most parts, the long-awaited next iteration many have been waiting for. It’s overall just this slight bit better in almost every regard to a MK3 and is just a cleaner and more professional build with its new electronics and extruder. And in combination with PrusaSlicer and the great working print and filament profiles makes it just a hassle-free tool to use even though some things still need to be looked at. So if you loved your MK3, you would be more than happy about the iteration. It’s not la CoreXY as many would have hoped, but as long as it’s an i3 design, it will remain a bed slinger, and we can only hope for a Prusa XL mini at some point. Yet, realistically, everyone will compare Prusa’s new MK4 to Bambulabs offerings, where the P1P is even slightly cheaper than a MK4 kit, and the fully enclosed X1 Carbon is just $100 more expensive than an assembled MK4. And objectively compared, Bambulabs machines are in almost any category better than a MK4. They are faster, they have a bigger build volume, the X1 is enclosed, they have a well-working multi-materials system, they have cameras, the X1 has a build plate scanner, and with the BambuStudio slicer, they offer a well tuned hardware and software ecosystem. So why should anyone in their right mind buy a Prusa these days? Well, starting with the software. The reason why BambuStudio is so good is that they reskinned PrusaSlicer and added a ton of features from SuperSlicer. The slicer part of BambuStudio is open source, but so far, Bambulab hasn’t given a lot back to the open-source community. Bambulab did a great job implementing every top-of-the-line feature in their machine, where the community has developed many things and ideas. Still, neither their printer’s firmware nor part of their mechanical design is available to the public to build upon. Consumer 3D printing has come to the point where it is today, largely due to the Open Source community’s work and companies like Prusa also making their software and designs available. This sounds a bit like you should all buy a MK4 out of pity so Prusa gets some kickback for the free work that they have done, and I’m sure, that many will be calling me a Prusa shill now. And I do admit that I’m a bit of a Prusa fanboy because I bought my first MK2 in 2016, and it was the machine I grew this YouTube channel with. And after torturing it for thousands of hours, I got a MK3 in 2019, which I still use to this day because it has always been my fire-and-forget machine due to its reliability. The MK4 might look on paper like an inferior product to its biggest competitor, and in some cases it is. Yet, I’m sure that it will be another reliable and just as easy to use machine as its predecessors. If you omit printing speed, it’s in terms of print quality and ease of use on par or better than a Bambu machine not even to speak of long term service. If that’s worth paying for the premium it costs is something you’ll have to decide on your own. Still, you’ll always have to remember that this machine is built here in the EU at EU labor costs and conditions and Prusa also offers good customer assistance and supports their machines for years, which needs to be paid for. Part of what I paid for my machine is, in a way, a Prusa tax. Still, in return, they contribute to the community, keep developing one of the best slicers that anyone can use, and with printables.com, finally provide a great uncluttered Thingiverse alternative. Don’t get me wrong, I really enjoy my Bambulab machines and will continue using them a ton, especially for fast prototyping and high temp materials. It’s a good thing that they entered the market because competition fuels innovation, lowers consumer prices, and also gave Prusa a kick in the butt. Since they have been successfully selling an almost 5-year-old design in such a quickly changing market, they definitely had a monopoly themselves. Yet I don’t want to see Bambulab taking over the whole market because long-term, a monopoly is not good for anyone. And this is the reason why I don’t regret spending my money on the MK4. Compare buying a printer to a car. Even though there might be a car with better specs around you might still spend the same or even more on another one, because you already had two that severed you well or it’s quiter or you like the brand more. The MK4 is really nice to work with and you notice that it’s made by people who use 3D printers themselves and if you ever loaded filament on a Prusa you’ll know why! There are still some features missing but with further firmware updates, it will even become better. I’m sure beginners and professionals will be happy with the new Prusa. It is a steep pricetag and there are way more affordable options on the market that might deliver almost as much as a MK4, but they are often abandoned by the manufacturers after months, and then the community needs to jump in for hard and firmware updates, which might be okay for someone who enjoys tinkering and doesn’t primarily need a tool! Yet praising the MK4 aside, if you’re looking for maximum speed and want to print a lot of ABS, ASA or Nylon or do multi-color printing, the Bambulab X1 is definitely the better option with its enclosure, carbon filter and the AMS. Yet you have to live with all of the downsides of cloud services and proprietary hard and software. But let me know in the comments: Do you think I’m just a huge Prusa shill, or do you also share my thoughts on why the MK4 is a good machine, even though it’s a little late and that we can all benefit from what this community and consumer 3D printers, in general, were built on: freely sharing ideas, methods, designs, and algorithms so that we can continue to innovate and not stagnate by proprietary technology. Thanks for watching, everyone! I hope you found this video interesting! If you want to support my work, consider becoming a Patron or YouTube member. Also check out the other videos in my library! I hope to see you in the next one! Auf wiedersehen and goodbye!
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