She Went From $0 To $65,000/Mo With Copywriting (How)

I've had a bunch of successful students in my career as a coach but none anywhere near as successful as bo bo started copyrighting in July of 2023 signed her first client 2 months later and now in March makes $65,000 a month as a freelancer and we're going to break down exactly how she got there and how you can do the same thing check this out all right B I've been trying to do this interview with you for probably what six months now yeah yeah solid six okay so just to set the tone for like who you are you were making like 10 or 12 Grand a month I think in like October is of last year which is about six months ago yeah and I said Bo like you're killing it let's do an interview and you were like deeply ashamed of how little money you were making you were like yo let's just like put this off until I'm at at least like 20 where like I can like respect myself yeah I think it's just because like my path my original path is like to go to med school and like I've I have like three degrees like about Bachelor and then two masters and you know my plan was like to go to med school and like obviously doctors make a lot of money it's like so that's always been my plan and like to me like 10 grand a month is like not it's not that much money when you think about it especially after taxes like that's not that much money what so what are you at now base last month was I think it was 45 or 47 and that's like without any of my rev share deals so with rev share like conservative estimate like what would you be at minimum probably somewhere between 60 and 70 just myself do you consider that a lot of money um yeah I do okay that's what I what I was expecting to hear all right so so give me a brief intro of like who you are what you do um like your story your background yeah um so background went to college um I played basketball at Duke last year finished up my masters this December graduated um again my plan was to go to med school that's like always been my plan since like high school um I've never taken like a business or like marketing class in my life I think the closest course I took to that in college was probably like a communication class um maybe like took like an English class or something like that um but that's about it was always very like biomath science heavy in all my courses and like psychology and stuff um but actually one of my uh one of like my coaches said I had like a creative mind um our creative director on the team last year um so I was working with her like just like making Tik toks and um like strategizing almost and so she kind of like got me into marketing a little bit before you um but then like I I came across you and um went to your free class bought your little course um was solid um I was in school obviously and I was in season at the time and so I was just kind of not really putting forth all my effort um and I was like still Focus very focused on like going to med school I just thought it'd be like fun little you know make an extra like three grand in college like that's sick like that's a lot of money in college um and then I think like in towards the end of the summer when because I had a bunch of internships and stuff that I was doing I was just like really busy still towards the end of like the summer maybe like August I was really started to like crank out some cold emails DMS um and finally like sign some clients right so so you started I don't know when you got original copy but you joined Inner Circle end of April right I don't I think we had a call end of April but I don't think I actually joined until the summer okay so you well I remember you joined but you weren't like really doing anything yeah yeah maybe that yeah started getting active like what do you think like July August yeah I would say July August yeah so that was when you started yeah okay and you were obviously at zero right you weren't making any money with coer before that no okay so so you're you went from zero to probably 60 Grand a month is like bro just your base is 45k a month like like how how did that happen so fast like what was the Journey of like starting from zero and then just like Skyrock skyrocketing to like where you're at now yeah I think it's like honestly weird like being in like Inner Circle it's like you're seeing so many wins daily it's almost like hard to not get discouraged when you when you don't see results like quickly and like I honestly was like pretty slow like I took took me like I think two or 3 months of effort to like finally get my first client and then that same week I got a second client and then I was like okay like this is kind of cool like this is sick and then like the work was like easy like I was kind of chilling um but in the meantime like when I wasn't getting any clients or working with anybody I think I was just like I was harassing Ben to like let me like learn what he does um and so like obviously like my main skill was copyrighting um and then I was just like learning more about like a sales funnel what that was um to build them why that helps um stuff like that and so I just guess building supplementary skills around Co copywriting help me leverage my value a lot more um so that's how I'm able to get like rev share deals and whatnot right so you started like what do you remember what your first client was like what the Yeah I do what was it um it's like a um it's like a tennis shop oh I remember that one yeah yeah yeah I remember that you were grinding for that one like you were really working hard to get them yeah like I ended up like we had some sort of miscommunication where I ended up I said it was just the copy like in the deliverables and in like the scope and then I ended up doing like all the design and everything so I guess I learned like design too on accident uh what' you get paid for that I think like 2 200 still not bad for first client like that's pretty solid yeah yeah what was like your first like big client where you were like you know like now I'm making money probably the first time I uh closed a webinar deal um because I ended up getting I think it was like six or seven Grand up front like one time setup fee and then because that was like fairly low for a webinar setup we I got 20% rev share and like the Rev was decent like I ended up getting almost like 10 grand a month from him like on rev so that was like that ended up being like 17 grand just from him in one month so is that is that your biggest client the one that's paid you the most in a month um no I don't think it's not now what's the biggest one now um I think I have someone that is going to be paying me like 20 24 holy bro yeah 22 or 24 I'll have to double check on that look before you keep watching I have to tell you about something that will help you if you're trying to get like both so I have a coaching program called the Inner Circle where you hop in and we train you one onone to be a copywriter we say 5 to 10K a month but now because a b you know that you can potentially get to 50 60 plus k a month if you want to be coached by me and Bo because she's a coach inside the Inner Circle click the link in the description and I will see you on the other side do you feel like you're working a lot now like do you feel like this is one of those things where it's like you're kind of in the trenches yes like I'm like honestly working I'm probably working 12 14 hours a day for sure um and then just like also like I feel like I'm at the point where I still can't say no to anyone and so like the other day I had someone come inbound um um and they dm' me and they we hopped on a call closed them on the call for like 10 grand um and then like obviously like working with Cam and he has people that like need things so I do it like immediately for them and I just like don't say no um so yes I I do work a lot okay and so like listen like you're kind of like a superstar like you have been successful in pretty much everything you've done like since you probably were born like you you like are a good student which like I didn't have that you know what I mean I was never like a great student um you like you have three degrees like one Bachelor two masters you were like a college basketball player at Duke which is pretty good considering you're like 54 I'm taller than you Mace so but anyway um all I'm saying is like you you obviously have like the traits of like a person who can kind of just be successful like what do you think it is about you like soft skills that sort of LED you to like grow so fast like cuz just remind us here so I'm pretty sure it was like your first client was 2500 you started doing it for real in like July and then like by October or November you were at 10K and then I remember January you were 20 and now it's March and you're at like 60 yeah it's like what is it about you that makes you just rip like that I think I've honestly always been told like I like connect with people pretty well and I think like my network is like pretty solid and like just like with my first few like big clients I've overd delivered and continue to over deliver and like make them so much money that they tell their friends and then like it's an inbound lead like I don't do any outbound really unless like I really want to work with somebody um and so it's been fun like I think just working with I don't know just like being like genu being genuine I guess like genuinely connecting with people and then like having them like mouth just like goes further than anything else um and then obviously like working hard um I think like a lot of people in any online business model they they don't see results in like two three months and then they quit like right before they're almost like about to make it or like sign their first client like they quit and I think like that's something I've like seen a lot even um because they even just like compare other PE to other people like they're just like oh they signed four clients in a week like why why can't I sign and then they they give up right like just like the persever perseverance honestly and honestly like not being ashamed to like harass somebody like I know I was in your DM so much like asking you like just so many questions that I like 80% of the time like I probably knew the answer to or like 90% I just wanted like the validation like to like be sure I was like doing something right yeah and like there's a handful of people that do that but like I'm never annoyed when anyone like over DMS me you know what I mean like that's usually a bull signal or I'm like all right I know this person's GNA be ripping in no time like my mom told me this like my mom I remember because like she wanted me to be like a good student um and so like she would give me a lot of like student tips because like she was in school for a long ass time yeah um she said that like the like you're not dumb for asking questions like the dumb people are the ones that aren't asking any questions yeah like smart people are the ones that are asking questions constantly like whether it's like an environment like Inner Circle or it's like obviously the classroom setting right but what was it about inner circle that that really helped you sort of like go from just being like a student to being like well now like and now you're coach like you went from like being a student in school to like being like a beginner copywriter and then you Sky rocking it so fast now you're a coach yeah um I think honestly just like all the resources you have available obviously like the course is like solid and like that helps you a lot just like getting like a really strong Foundation but then honestly access to like all the resources in Inner Circle like all the coaches their Network um it's almost it just like expedites your success so much faster because I could I I remember one time I didn't know how to send over like a proposal or a scope like I like knew how to but like I wanted to be sure and like have like make sure I did it right and like you sent me an example and like it just like made it so much easier so just like your resources and like obviously you have experience um and all the coaches do um and so just being able to like hey you've been through this like let me like what do I say to like this client or like what do I offer them or um I just like think like Griffin even has giving me so much advice and templates for XYZ um whether that's emails or like scripts or um how to even just like deal with clients like you know what I mean like not get taken advantage of or make sure they pay or like um what to do if a client drop wants to drop you or says you're like charging too much and stuff like that yeah I mean like there's there's no real other way to get that like there's no like you can like courses are good but like having access to people who have like done it already and have had a bunch of time in the game is like do it you know what I mean yeah for sure let's talk about your lifestyle because 60k month is not nothing you know I mean upper upper echelon of like what people in America are making like even a high paying job like you're definitely out earn what you would have made as a doctor yeah even though you're working about the same amount of hours yeah which we'll talk about how you can fix that after yeah I need I need to hire someone I know I'll help you out with that um but um like what like you went from 10K a month I guess six months ago to making 60 yeah like how much has changed like do you spend money do you do anything like I'm in North Carolina like there's not that much to do it's more just like I know I'm like not worrying about it like I think I I've been saving a lot um I've been messing around crypto this little Bull Run it's been kind of fun um I know like just like like it's just like not something I worry about like I don't have time to cook in the days where I door Dash food or at Uber Eats or like I go out to eat like a lot of the time um it's like it's just like you don't worry about these things anymore like you go to you get an Uber to go to the bars like you you call it your friends don't you know you don't even like you don't need to ask them for money like I think like I've always been like a person to be like oh just get it next time or whatever like I like don't freaking V on me you know like you're going to help out your friends um and I think that's just like kind of been heightened a little bit like we'll go to dinner it's like okay it's like fine like I got it like don't worry um I think being able to like do that for because I'm still around so many like college kids like college kids are broke like they have no money it's like that's been nice um even just like sending my mom some money or like just being being able to like take care of things for people like I I really enjoy that um and then yeah I've been been saving a lot saving a decent amount anyways um gonna gonna probably get a new car soon so that'll be that'll be a fun purchase you thinking some sort of Audi or maybe a Porsche we'll see yeah dude get a Porsche that'd be so like a Porsche Macon GTS would kind of be sick yeah or like a Panamera yeah that'd be kind of it's like a baller car bro like it's not like a like McLaren or something like that yeah so respectable like that's a that's a grown ass car I've always wanted like a blacked out Range Rover but I think I gotta wait for that a little bit what do you mean I don't know I feel like I don't know like I want to hit 100K a month so bad like and I know it's just like a number and like nothing will likely change but like being able to say like oh yeah I make like 100k a month versus 60 yeah doing this for like nine months that like that takes time yeah Ben told me that the other day he was like B this took me like two like two years to get to 100K a month and you've done it in like less than like almost less than a year yeah no it yeah like Ben's been in the game for a long time I've been in the game for a long time took me like three years to hit 100 game on yeah chill all right yeah I know I know what have you learned about um copywriting and copywriters after being a coach you've only been a coach for like I think two months now yeah dealt with a lot of students you're in the slack all the time like what are you learning about like people who were kind of just coming in and just joining and not really know what to do like new copywriters I think like the the way like even like cold DMS or cold email it's just like so generic and like I know in the course you tell us like you like give us scripts to say but then it's like I think people need to understand like they need to add their own like genuine self in there like like people like look at how many people have bought your course and like are in inner circle like everybody's using that exact same script like nobody's going to respond to that and I think like thinking from someone that is now getting DMS about this stuff I'm like me responding versus not responding like I'm not going to respond to just like some generic respon like text like I feel like like selfishly it's like in most cases you're going to respond to something because one it benefits you or two like they're complimenting you or something and so like seeing like the other side of that I think is helpful um and I feel like I try to tell all tell all our students and whatnot like be genuine and like don't pitch them like first freaking DM like I think like that turns a lot of people away especially if it's like Instagram or Twitter um and then what have I learned about copyrighting I think there's just there's so there's a lot of ways um I guess you can like copy right like obviously like more direct response and salesy or like more like brand oriented um kind of just like figuring out what best fits the person you're uh like your client essentially um and like how they want to be perceived even like I have clients that don't want to be like super salesy but they sell a course you know and then you have some people that like they want to freaking like they want to they want to say book a call after every like email you know um but I think just like making sure our students know like just like ask us questions like you don't know what you don't know until you ask or like listen um yeah um what would you tell someone who's like on the fence about joining Inner Circle um I think you're you're just like wasting time like I think if you want like especially because so many like I think like yes there are a bajillion businesses out there that like need this service but there's also like a lot of people right now that are like in the DMs like I go through some of my clients Instagrams and they we probably get over 100 DMS a day saying like I'm a I'm a professional copywriter let me write your emails I'm like no like it's just like like stand out and I just think like even in inner circle like we literally give people leads like like it's it does not come easier than that like to get like your first client like I know you've said this and like I 100% agree with it like getting your first client is the hardest part because you don't have any experience you don't even know how to like navigate like the email service provider you know what I mean like once you get your first client you have a testimonial you kind of have confidence you can um probably close on a sales call um you have like more in your portfolio um and I think like the fact we give out leads and like we do a lot of work you do a lot of work you and Abby I would say do a lot of work trying to find leads like you guys are posting on Twitter you guys are cold dming people and like that's like sick to be able to do that at a high level and then give it away to like your students I think is is sick hell yeah bro like we do the hardest part for you yeah I mean well we try like it's not for everybody obviously like some people aren't G to get leads because they're just not doing the work but people who are doing work like they get for sure do you want what do you want to plug do you want to plug Twitter Instagram like where do you want people to find you they can they can follow Twitter or Instagram it's probably what I'm most active on uh bo bo bo shaer I think yeah is there an 11 in there 11 on Twitter on Instagram it's just B shaer all right H FF e r we'll put it in the uh put in the description but Bo you're Savage I have no doubt you'll be at a h 100 C on before summer yeah that's my goal let's get you let's get you a little Junior copywriter little Junior uh marketer and and you can scale to the Moon yeah for sure it'll be good thanks for coming on bro yeah thanks m

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Length: 20min 37sec (1237 seconds)

Published: Thu Apr 04 2024