Session 7: Sons Arise Conference India 2019, Mike Parsons

all right okay well some of the questions they are not going to answer because you need to get the answers from God we have one of the questions is what is my destiny I'm not going to tell you what your destiny is I'm not gonna prophesy what your destiny is because all I would be doing is doing something totally contradictory to what I'm teaching here which is you can engage God for yourself engage the presence of God on a daily basis and he will reveal your destiny one day at a time some people just want to know what it all is so that they can then try and do it if God showed you the for your full destiny it would completely blow your mind and you would feel so overwhelmed so you what either think I can't do that or you would try and do it in your own strength God shows you one day at a time and sometimes God shows you some things for the next year whatever but he's not going to give you a detailed description because he wants you to do it relationally with him walking it out every day God walked with Adam in the garden he didn't post an email to him or send him up a message or a text you know he walked this is a relationship you know today we have relationships by text they're not real that's just the information you have to see someone and interact and communicate to be able to engage so you know I cannot tell you and even if I knew I wouldn't tell you because all I will be doing is actually pointing you to a mediator God will show you your destiny when you have a heart to do his will on a daily basis your destiny is the Son of God so you have the same destiny as the rest of us with individual things that your call to do that's guaranteed you could say that it fits into the same destiny of sonship be fruitful multiply fill subdue and rule you know the individual details that's what God wants to give you again I was encountered by Jesus what's my next step continue encountering because this then says what's my destiny he'll he'll tell you if you keep in countering them that that's the relational perspective a list it's an ongoing journey which is not often a straight line I have got very little but I've gone in a straight line I have gone like this because every part of that journey is in preparation for the next step of the journey and if I was to go from A to Z in one go without going through b c d e f g i would not be able to do what i supposed to do instead because i had not gone through the preparation that the journey gives you we're too concerned of that destination and not enough about process C destination is not relationship a journey of walking your relationship out with God is and that's what God wants someone's asked you know why does my body become [Music] become static in the presence of God well if you mean that you find it difficult to move often God will put us into a state to keep her still because we're too active and we can't keep still so sometimes the presence of God will just bring us to a place where he's saying rest and sometimes we can't move now if your stride to figure out why you can't move you're not resting he's basically saying don't do anything just lie there so the presence of God can engage you even if you don't know what it's doing don't try and have to understand everything sometimes there are signs and wonders to make you wonder and point you to a sign which is him I've had times when I've been so under the power of the Spirit I couldn't even get up and I couldn't move you know and in that whole process I didn't know what was going on and I went boy are you doing God what are you doing God and I was so concerned at what he was doing I was missing what he was doing so if you get to that point where you can't move just rest until you can move don't try and figure it out and work it out that way and there's a question it says an explanation of procedures for passing legislature in the courts of heaven so we can stop things like the burning Amazon forest I'll go into more of that when we look at in the last two days but you can't pass legislation to you have to have a mandate to do so God will give you authorization to do certain things sometimes you may have a passion or a desire to do something which is coming from your soul and is not necessarily part of your destiny don't try and do something just because there is a problem doesn't mean you have to fix it but if you do get a mandate then you may need legislation or laws to give you authority to do things but I doubt very much what anyone can just say stop and it will stop because our government is bringing the kingdom of God so people submit to the kingdom of God and they have work for Kingdom through their lives you can't force someone to do some of them I'm gonna force the president of Brazil to stop burning the forest you can't because that's control of witchcraft what you can do is pray for him to come to a revelation of God's will for his life and fulfill it and bless him in him but you can't make anyone do anything God doesn't make anyone do anything so you certainly are God gives us choice you can't take someone's choice away even if they're doing bad things you can't take the choice away there are things you can do to create environments where good things can take place but you can't make people do something you know there's a there's an old phrase you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink you know so you can do everything you can do that does not guarantee someone is going to say the same thing you want them to but what you can do is definitely do what God is calling you to do and actually that's what you're responsible for more than anything else your own life God is not going to hold you accountable for what someone else is doing even if it's a family member you're responsible for your life so I would say you know yes we can pass until legislation in the course of heaven and yes we can do things in the course of having to remove legal rights that the enemies doing certain things but when people are involved people have to willingly make a choice to do what God wants you can't make them do so so there's always a journey and a process in this and it's not automatic in that way okay okay now there's quite a few questions here on certain subjects I'll be them one of them if the Bible is not the Word of God why are you using it as a reference for teaching what's a good question I'm using it because you're familiar with it basically because it gives you a point of reference now I am NOT saying the Bible does not contain God words God spoke it does but it also contains word that Satan spoke that other people spoke that other king spoke and other things now what God spoke is true but you still need to apply that truth and you can't interpret that truth through your theological understanding otherwise you'll get what you've always got from the same scripture you have to have the Spirit of Truth to reveal what is true in what God said and how that applies to you because not everything God said in the Bible applies to you none of the law applies to you so you can forget it you don't have to bother about all of the law of the Old Covenant because it doesn't apply to you you're living in grace so why study the law when you can live in grace so some of it is pretty much irrelevant it was true for them but even then see grace and truth came through Jesus Christ but the law came through Moses see God didn't give them the law that's the interpretation has been put on it but very clearly Jesus States in that see that the law came through Moses so Moses gave her the law to keep them from following the idols of the golden calf and even while they went through the wilderness and the presence of God was in their myths for forty years it says in acts 7 that they carried a ram the gods of Roffe a and other idols all the way through that time every time they make camp and break camp and the presence of God came at the tent of meeting and they had their tabernacle in their midst they still had idols because they were a stiff-necked people the Bible says so you know I use the Bible because it gives a frame of reference and there is truth there and there is eternal truth there but you've got to be very careful in how you apply the truth today a lot of it was written to the culture and if you don't know the culture you won't know the understanding you know we need the Spirit of Truth to give us understanding but it is a reference point I don't read the Bible I talk to Jesus if God speaks to me through the Bible then I will read it and if I'm inspired to read it and the spirit leads me to read it then I'll read it and I'm reading the mirror Bible and I'm seeing how that it equates and interprets things in a different way if I really want to know what the Bible says I'll get a Greek or Hebrew interlinear and I'll look at the actual words and then I'll go and find out what the actual words meant rather than what in English they've been interpreted because you cannot rely on English interpretation or any other interpretation Bible because it was interpreted by someone who had a biased view in the beginning you cannot interpret certainly take something without biased view that's why a lot of people interpret it through their theological perspectives because they already believe that that's true before they started interpreting it we need the Holy Spirit Jesus is the truth if we build our foundation on our relationship with Jesus through the spirit and with the father then when we read the Bible it will have truth that resonates with our relationship with God you know I'm not saying that I don't value the Bible because I believe it carries an introduction into a relationship with God for many people but when we see people engage God at home and we lead people into an engagement with Jesus that engagement or with the father is what is the basis of their relationship with them we don't give them a Bible because most of the people we engage with our people who come from addiction backgrounds and homelessness and things like that you give them a Bible they would never clue so what we teach them is Jesus is speaking to you every day listen and this is how to listen then they're hearing God for themselves if you say read Genesis they're going to be okay but what's that mean to me today we need to be relevant so I do believe that God will speak to you through the Bible if you read it it's actually the only way God can speak to most people because that's how they expect him to speak to us they don't expect a personal face-to-face in relationship so God is stuck with speaking to them through the Bible unless they have a breakthrough and actually listen to his voice in a different way how would you raise true leaders who would willingly help the Saints to be empowered its whistling quite a bit we can just we need to turn it down because it's on the edge how do we raise true leaders who would willingly help the Saints to be empowered in their destiny calling well you need people who model it as forerunners yeah that that's the first thing but the question is if you are doing that then other people will see how you're doing it and they will be discipled in it then you empower them to do that if you are going to control people you can't give them the authority that they need so yeah you either have to do the things that you do in a way which is empowering people to hear God for themselves or you tell them what to do so if you develop leadership courses which gives them a prescriptive ways of doing things all you're doing is going back to another program see the engaging God program it's not prescriptive it's engaged God you know that the name is in the title engage God so the whole point is engaging God for yourself not someone else telling you what to do but I'm saying if you engage God God will show you what to do and that's what we all need on a daily basis but what we do need is people who are leaders who were willing to be in the foundation to lift people up and empower them and not control them and not operating in systems of belief that tie people down to theological streams of thinking because then they're conformed to a belief system rather than a relationship Free People and give them the opportunity of engaging and then support them in that which is why I mention people because people can ask me questions and they can share their experiences and I can give them some insight to help them continue those experiences but I will never interpret a dream or tell you what your experience means that's the relationship that you develop with God because he will show you what it means if you have a vision and you don't understand it don't go to someone else and ask them to explain it go back to God and ask him to explain it because he's the one who gave you in the first place because you're only gonna get someone else's explanation otherwise okay so how do we raise the family of passionate lovers who devote themselves in becoming loved and then doing that from a state of rest thanks well if you're talking about again children family by being a role one role model of love if you love them and help them to see and experience God's love then they will help others to experience God's love and they will live in a loving way it's discipleship is the key to everything but what we're not doing is getting people to follow us we're getting them to follow Jesus who we're following primarily but we can be an example we can be an example of love by treating people with love so if you're a raising a family and you've got children demonstrate love to them the way God demonstrates love to that doesn't mean that you met them do what they want but it does mean that you help them learn to listen to God at an early age and follow his pattern for life you see when it says in Proverbs you know train up a child in the way they should go and they won't depart from it we think that's training them up to be a Christian actually what it's doing is helping them find their destiny their identity and know who they are because when they know who they are what they do will flow out of who they are so if we help our children to discover their identity as a son of God knowing who they are then they will not depart from the reality of who they are if we give them direction of what we want them to do in life then you'll find that they will rebel against that direction because children will rebel about you telling them what they should do in life and there are so many people who are doing things today because they've been forced to do it by their families there are people who are families who've had four or five generations of doctors lawyers teachers and they are expected to follow in the family footsteps that isn't training picked up a child in the way they should go that's training up a child in the way you expect them to go and that's never going to work and they will be living unfulfilled lives if God didn't testing them to do that so it's important that we help ask God to show them that we don't tell them what we think okay what is your take on ministering inner healing and deliverance well I've ministered lots of inner healing and deliverance and I've had a lot of inner healing and deliverance as long as when you're ministering to people you're helping people to hear God for themselves and you help them in the process to hear God and then do what God shows them to do and not become dependent on you as the minister or the expert then it's good to help people do that there are ministries like lie busting which will help people listen to God to show them what the lies are there are things about helping people engage the courts of heaven so that you can help them to hear the accusations but don't do it for them you know that's the key do I believe in deliverance yes but when you teach people to know their identity they get delivered rather than you having to deliver them you see if you cast demons out of somebody and they do not know their identity then they'll come back worse and we did a lot of deliverance and we were looking for manifestations and people were screaming and doing all sorts of stuff I used to keep a bucket in office because people were puking up deliverance you know and now when we started to help them engage heaven and help them engage their identity as a son of God demons left without all the histrionics of screaming and all that stuff because there was no place for them within the pub within a person who knows their identity because demons operate in deception they deceive you into operating according to their personality if you know who you are you're not going to be deceived so we found deliverance was so much easier once we taught people to engage God for themselves when they knew who they were and they knew their authority as a child of God and a son of God then demons couldn't stay and they gave up because they didn't have any way to outwork what they wanted to do and they left so I do believe God wants to set us free and if anything is holding us in bondage if our mindsets are in bondage he wants to bring ruin all of our minds and it's a process that's outworked from what Jesus has already done on the cross he doesn't do it have to do anything else but we do have to apply the process the key is what you believe because if a man is what he believes what you believe is the key therefore believing what God says about you will free you from those bondages of mindsets and belief systems which limit who you are so know the truth Jesus said and the truth will set you free and you will be free indeed so the focus I believe today is to help people to know the truth as a person and then the truth will bring freedom into their lives the transformation series that I did back in 2012 13 is 20 parts of teaching on different ways that we can be transformed by being living sacrifices by engaging the courts of heaven by having our minds renewed by dealing with our DNA by dealing with bloodline and issues in our past because if we still think according to our generational lines then our thinking needs to change to come into a line with the truth of God that will renew our minds and those strong walls will be broken but there are different things you can do practically to help that process and sometimes it's good to get someone to help you because sometimes that shows that you're not independent you know and sometimes God wants us to humble ourselves before other people so you know I've asked the help yeah but most of the time I know now how to do this process myself so whenever I enter into a situation which is in any way traumatic or I find myself feeling anxious or I find myself feeling angry or frustrated in any way I have a process that will turn that into transformation so that's within the engaging God program that whole process in which I will see why am I thinking this way become self reflective don't just ignore what you're thinking and what you'll feel then deal with it so if I'm angry why if I'm embarrassed why if I'm insecure why so I then can trace by walking that out with Jesus what is behind that is there something in me that's operating as a familiar spirit that when a situation happens triggers my behavior and I spiral down that behavior or thinking pattern without even thinking it just triggers if there is I need to have that thinking pattern Delta we have neural pathways in our brain that are attached to memories that can be triggered by situations or people that spiral us into a way of thinking or believing or feeling sometimes that rejection is a big one someone says something to you that makes you feel rejected immediately you start spiraling down and you start feeling oh whoa with me pity me no I'm nobody no one loves me no one likes me you feel rejected and now you are just in a pity party and sometimes the person never rejected you in the first place it just triggered a memory of someone else and you went down that pattern those things can be dealt with and we can be free from those patterns but our mind needs to be renewed and those neural pathways needs to be broken open and truth needs to replace the lies or the memories and we can have our memories cleanse and things remove from our minds if we follow a process of the inner healing in that sense but I would do it now in a very different way from what I did it ten years ago I would do it relationally and I would never minister to someone and tell them what to do I would be in helping them engage God that God shows them what to do and then when I'm not there they can still hear God and God will continue to show them what to do and that's the key in that there is a phrase good vibes only could you elaborate more on human vibrations and auras yeah basically all of us carry our a frequency we are vibrating at a particular pressure which is unique to us and we want to make sure that we come into an agreement with God's frequency so frequency is where but something vibrates at a particular rate okay and God has designed us to vibrate at a particular friction frequency which connects us to the planet humans frequency which is the planet and connects to him now he is light everything is a outworking of electromagnetic energy which starts with light and we can discover when things are out of sync in our life by the frequency that we are vibrating at if you are negative and angry and bitter and resentful you will be carrying a low frequency and people can pick that up we can do that sometimes without even thinking about it you walk into a room and you feel an atmosphere where does that atmosphere come from from the people in the room creating an atmosphere that can be a happy atmosphere and you go in and everything's jolly and everything's good you can go in there and it feels like there's a dark cloud because people are emanating a frequency which is negative now when I go into a room that's negative I'm gonna change it it's not gonna affect me and I'm not going to join in with negativity because I can recognize it now an aura is a frequency or a light that you give off that which you're creating an atmosphere that comes through so you could say it's rivers of living water flowing around you or light radiating from you that you can't see so if I choose to look into the spiritual realm of this room I can see your angels and I can see your auras it's just a Turman term to say what attitude or atmosphere you're creating really and ultimately sometimes when someone is angry you know we use colors to describe things you know they're green with envy mr. West there's a term isn't it you know when there when someone is a coward they're yellow you know so that that comes from something which is to do with the atmosphere people are giving off so you can learn to discern that but for me I don't do that just because I could I do it if God tells me to do it because I'm not going to intrude on your life you know if God showed me to say something someone then I would but bottom line is we're all responsible for what we're creating around us and if you're angry deal with your anger yeah it's not wrong to get angry but it's wrong to keep your anger and let the Sun to go down on your anger and then give the enemy a foothold in your life which is what it says will happen in Ephesians so you know could you elaborate more on it I mean I do a whole idea of sessions on frequency and vibrations so there's a lot of information but God is giving revelation today about frequency because we can use that revelation to change things and align things humans frequency which is I think something like seven point eight three Hertz is is measured for the whole planet now people sometimes take their shoes off and walk on the ground to ground themselves with humans frequency but we should not be grounding ourselves with a frequency we should be changing that frequency and elevating it to its original intention from God now since 2014 humans frequency has been spiking and I believe that's because the sons of God are coming and releasing a frequency of heaven and are releasing a frequency of sonship that creation is responding to some of those spikes have gone up to twenty or thirty Hertz and they've been measured and obviously I've got the diagrams in my teaching on frequency which show you where the spikes happened now I believe that's because in 2014 there was a huge change ready for 2015 when there was a new beginning for a new day of sonship and practically you can see that it's been going on how do you think we can access genetic engineering to invent correct I wouldn't because if you go back to what God said things should be producing after their kind so we should not be introducing anything outside of its kind there's no problem learning to cultivate plants and using hybrids within plants because there are one thing all of the dogs that we have today have come from original dogs and there's lots of varieties which have been come from that one genetic genome of dogs it will be wrong to try and mix dog and cat DNA because they come from a different kind and that's forbidden by God because that's what the Fallen Angels did in producing the Nephilim so they mixed human and angelic DNA is forbidden to do that can we use genetic engineering to make things better within one thing yes but you've got to be very careful it doesn't step outside of that cloning and other things I think is on the edge of going the wrong way and potentially we've got to be careful about that sort of stuff if Christians are to pray for the government and if for example the government does something wrong basically forcibly Ruth removes a poor Christian out of his home you know how and should we react correctly by forgiveness first then if you don't forgive then you will do whatever you're doing out of unforgiveness and our anger that's never going to produce anything good if something has been done wrongly that does not mean that you cannot challenge that which has been done wrongly if something is unrighteous and the government has done something unrighteous you can certainly challenge it but do it with the right attitude and do it in love and don't do it out of anger because all that will do was create more anger you see it's love and soothing words which change things not angry words so when we are going to challenge something let's say something which has been done which we think is illegal or we challenge it in the courts or wherever we do it make sure we do it in the right way and not the wrong way you know I do believe we do need to pray for our governments to be reflective of love but that they're not perfect and they will do things that are wrong it doesn't mean you have to agree with everything a government does and if a government does something which is totally contradictory to what God says then you don't obey it if the government says you cannot love God then you don't obey that you know but you don't have to make a show of it to prove that you're not obeying it and get yourself in trouble but there could come a choice where someone says you know if if you do not renounce your faith you're gonna die well don't renounce your faith and trust God but in sonship you can stop some of that stuff happening to you because you can create an atmosphere of protection around you you have angels to protect you and you can use those angels and assign them for protection in your life jesus said the father could assign him was it 12 legions of angels that's a lot of angels and if Jesus as the Son of God could do that and we're supposed to do everything that he did then their father can assign us twelve legions of angels get some angels on your side if you're in difficult situations there can be things you can do in the courts of heaven to deal with some blockages and things on the earth and to see justice because that's ultimately what you want when you're dealing with governmental things which are in just and unjust you want justice and you can get some justice from the courts of heaven and I have seen lots of testimonies where things have changed because we've got a verdict out of heaven to see justice in the earth so there are things you can do can Christians protest against the government for unjust laws yeah you can but make sure you do it in the right way and you don't do it too in a violent way if you whatever you do must be motivated by love often it escalates into something which is beyond what people originally did so be very careful if you get is going on in Hong Kong at the moment and a lot of Christians are involved but there's also a lot of activists and a lot of people who are doing things to create chaos to try and bring the government down that's not what the protests are for you know but make sure you're not doing the Christian protesting stuff which is placards telling people how wrong they are you know that that's that's what people see as Christians you can't do this you can't do that you can't do the other if we're going to protest it should be something which is protesting something which is contradictory to God's purposes and will in that way okay if believers are going to bring the kingdom of God does it mean we believers will be able to get the whole world converted to Christ and usher in the eighth day or the kingdom of the Father well we already have the kingdom and we're seeing the kingdom of God fill the earth and it can do that one person at a time and you know if you were to reach one person every year and then they preach one piece in every year or two people in 32 years he could reach the whole planet so for the evangelization of the world is possible but I don't think we can do it using the methodologies we've been doing up till now we need to find a different way of helping people to encounter God but I do believe that God wants us to reach the world we can't force people to be believers it has to be a choice but we can make that choice much more possible by introducing them to the real powerful loving God who loves them not the angry God who doesn't love will God take all people in the world in his kingdom well he will if they say yes now God wants every one of his children to come into a relationship with him there is no one outside of that but he's not going to force anyone in the history we see people forcing people to bow the knee to Jesus otherwise die Christon don't did it he tried to force people to do that you know Islam is trying to do it people do it but it's not the right way he must be freewill choice but I believe we can do things to help make that choice much easier for people and when people truly experience love as demonstrated in believers or they see through light as demonstrated in believers it will make it much easier for the to engage God they don't engage God when we just talk about the negative things they're doing all the time you stated all our sons of God all the world then what about John 1:12 those who believe in the Son of God can be sons of God well belief is when you accept what God's already done from his perspective you're already as children it's from our perspective that the change takes place see there's a difference between being in Christ than knowing you're in Christ if you don't know it it has no value to you whatsoever that's the reality of anything if you do not know the truth the truth can set you free and you live in a lie most of the world are living in an illusion of a lie that they're separated from God when they're not but if they believe it they live as if they're separated and god that's the reality when we believe what is already true then we will enter into that truth and we will experience it most people aren't experiencing it so there's a huge difference between what God has done and what we're experiencing so we need to help people to experience what God has already done how can we say reconciliation without the same separation and sin because what we're saying his reconciliation has already taken place from God's perspective and we just want people to come into that you don't have to use separation and sinners away the same people need reconciliation what do you need to say is God has a route once a relationship with you enter that relationship doesn't have to be negative so we've focused so much on the negative that the world thinks Christians are a bunch of killjoys it does because we focus on their negative you can't do this you can't do that you can't do that you know it's like so many Christians are living such a boring life that the world wouldn't want it what do you do all week while I go to church on Sunday three times I don't do this on what will choose to go to the Bible read and I do this on Wednesday Thursday go to the prayer meeting I do that well when do you have any time like all I don't really well who wants that that's not life life needs to be live in abundance Jesus came to give life in abundance we should be the most joyful people on the earth not the most miserable but because people are miserable because they're living under an Old Covenant law so you're trying to please God by keeping certain regulations you will never please God by keeping regulations you'll please God by being you because you're already pleasing to him you can discover that and enjoy life have fun Christian life is an adventure to have fun every day joy love joy and peace that's what the world is looking for and when they see it in you they'll see the genuine sense of what a believer should be can live that one out does God now accept those with the seed of Cain can of it well yeah God will accept everyone who's a believer there's no one today who's got pure seed of Cain Saul mixed in over the years everyone is inter married and all the different seeds are all into marriage just like the seed that is come from ethnic groups you know you can do a DNA test and you can find out where all your ethnicity comes from now that's the seed in our DNA that's the seed so if there is seed which is some things which is non-human then God will want to purify and refine that see from you it won't stop him accepting you because you're still his child if some of what was created through genetic manipulation did they have a human spirit or not and the reality was I believe what we now call demons were the dispossessed souls of those for the floods who were not genetically pure at all and had no human DNA that's why they're looking for us person to inhabit they're not fallen angels fallen angels our human heart angelic but they mix their DNA with humans and that created the Nephilim where all the Giants and all those races come from but we don't need to be afraid of all that okay Jesus and Paul kept the feast in the New Testament well because Jesus lived in the Old Covenant days because he kept the feast he was going to fulfill all righteousness but we don't because we're not Jews why would we keep religion feasts from another religion you might as well say well why won't you keep Hindu feasts all Muslim feasts well you don't because they're not required so you don't have to keep feasts so Paul didn't King feast as soon as he was set free when he realized the truth he stopped keeping feasts and he told people you don't need to keep feasts now if you study the feasts there is some truth that comes out of understanding what happened in the feast of tabernacles and what happened at the day of pentecost and how this was at work but you do not have to keep the law or anything associated whether civil or legal requirements of the Old Covenant because you live in the New Covenant so so seer says in Scripture that God honors the word above his name well his word is his name this is you see when you think of scripture you're thinking of the Bible and you're not thinking of what God said so does God honor some things in the Bible above his name no because he could not gonna honor Satan's words in the Bible above his name is he he's going to honor his own word but in reality Jesus is the Living Word of God made flesh stopped going back to the Bible when you've got the Living Word of God see these words are coming out of an Old Covenant mindset and a religious mindset which is going to keep you stuck because your sport you're really saying is we need to honor the Bible no you need to honor God because God honors his word his word will not return to avoid what his word isn't the Bible it's the things he said which may recorded in the Bible if Jesus had everything he did you wouldn't have enough books to fill so one book with 1200 pages is never going to encapsulate God he's infinite so stop trying to fix the Bible all the time you know you've got to get stuck if you keep going back to the Bible for your truth in Revelation and don't get it through the Spirit of Truth and Jesus the truth read the Bible if God asks you to do it don't read it out of due to your obligation because you think it's the Word of God it isn't it will trap you and you will get caught up in theology rather than truth if you get stuck in that if God inspires you to read it read it with an open mind and ask the Spirit to give you revelation of it but I would encourage you to stop spending time doing that and spend more time talking to God and learning to discern his voice as he speaks to you in relationship that's what everyone in the Bible did you see we read the Bible and it's full of people's subjective experiences of people walking with God they didn't read a book to walk with God they walked with God so why are you trying to read a book to walk with God when they did it it is a huge thing that the Bible has been elevated to almost the fourth person of God there are some churches that bring the Bible in walk it in on a platter because they so venerate it don't get into that if there has been genetically a seed of the serpent and a seed of Adam and generational lines has that ceased in Christ or ceased only in believers in Christ it's ceased in those who believe it's ceased and apply the fact that we can be free in Christ if you believe according to that way of thinking then you will still be in bondage to that way of thinking you can be free from that way thinking by the renewing of your minds to believe a different way of thinking but that isn't magic you cannot have your mind renewed by clicking your fingers its renewed by engaging the truth which will renew it to the truth rather than what you believe to be the truth before so yes Jesus has done everything necessary on the cross for our full restoration to sonship but it needs to be applied and if you don't believe it it won't apply to you even though it's true if you don't believe it's true it's not true for you is it so the key is engaging the truth engaging the truth and living the truth and experiencing the truth as Jesus is the truth will there be an angelic celebration if a backslidden believer returns to God yeah their angels will certainly be celebrating because they've been trying to get them back for God for probably most of their lives yeah he will then see God wants us in relationship and the Angels know the heart of God and the angels will celebrate so for what we mean by a back spin believer you see if someone genuinely engaged God had had a relationship with God and now they've totally renounced that God will renounce them you see there's a scripture which says if you reject will renounce my father before men I will renounce you before my father but actually that is not what that actually says what it actually says I will I will reject your rejection [Music] see that's what it actually means you may reject me but I'm never going to reject you I reject your rejection of me I am NOT going to let that affect my relationship with you it will of course affect your relationship with me but I will reject it that's how it works Matthew 28:18 Jesus was given authority over heaven singular and earth according to Genesis 1 there are heavens plural kindly explained but it also says that Jesus was raised above all authority above the highest authority above every level of authority in the realms level so yeah again you see it's nitpicking over an S not on the end of a word is Jesus in authority over everything all yes so don't worry whether there's heaven heaven singular plural there's multiple ramps that each of these Lord over all of them you see so we can get so caught up in the tiny little details of something you missed the point it's like says don't you know don't sort of stream out of map and swallow an elephant you know sometimes we get so caught up on little details which really don't make a ability hill of beans in Kingdom terms it's like there are multiple realms to heaven and you'll find that to be true when you go there and they all have different functions and Jesus is Lord over all of them because he is seated above every authority all authority is given to him yes in heaven and on earth but heaven is just a term which expresses the spiritual realms that way what happens to a person who does not get a revelation of Christ during his lifetime will he go to heaven no if you mean heaven as the city of the New Jerusalem or that know what happens to him and will also come with a few other questions here many you're going into some deep water but I'll go there Vichy you've asked okay now what has been taught in an evangelical perspective which was not taught in the early church by the way was if someone dies and they have not accepted Jesus as their Lord then there will go to hell and they will be punished forever and there's no way out that the general consensus that has been taught by the evangelical theology that's not actually in the Bible and it was not what the early church taught and it was not what Jesus taught okay nowhere in the bible does it say that death is the end of choice so if someone chooses not to accept jesus in this life many people have never chosen not to accept jesus in a soft because they've never heard of jesus and no one's ever preached the good news to them but it says they're without excuse because there's evidence that there is a God in creation and everything else so this is what happens when someone gets to the point of death Jesus visits them as the light on their death bed and he gives them an opportunity of coming into the light and many do come into the light because they recognize that that light is good there are some who choose not to come into the light because they're afraid of the light because they've been conditioned not to go into the light take leave muslims they won't go into a light because they've been told Jesus as a false prophet so don't go in and follow him so they will say probably no and there may be people got a choice so people might be just so stubborn that they'll say no they can and they will if they do they go into a place which is still within the presence of God but they don't know God now God is a consuming fire so when people see fire they immediately think and torment rather than purification and refining if you go into the fire of God's presence and you do not know him you are going to be in anguish of soul because your soul is going to be reminded of every false choice that you ever made and every rejection of the truth you ever made and you're gonna be an anguish of soul which feels like torment that God is not tormenting you you're being tormented by your own choices and decisions but God is still at work to refine and purify and burn and remove every obstacle for you accepting Christ as Savior it says in Philippians that every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father every knee will bow now some people will say again but they're going to be forced to bow and acknowledge Jesus says Savior it also says that you cannot accept Jesus or Lord or stages for other than by the spirit so you will never be able to say Jesus as Lord by force you can only say it voluntarily so it does say that everyone will one day say it voluntarily how long that will take who knows people can resist because they've got actual choice I don't really believe anyone's got totally free will because you are influenced by something that influences your choices but you can choose so God is kind and tolerant and patient okay that's what it says in Romans he's kind and tolerant patient and that is what leads people to change their mind about him being angry and not loving them too realizing that he does love them okay kindness tolerance and patience so someone dies physically and they go into that fiery place does God's kindness and tolerance and patience change because they've died well that'd mean God would have to change can God suddenly turned from a kind tolerant temptation God into a tormentor who is going to punish people and give them an eternal body so he can do it forever does that actually seem very loving and reflecting a loving God no it doesn't and it isn't true because you can't find it in the Bible even if you needed to you can't yeah the other wages of sin is death and everyone died in Adam but the gift of God is eternal life and everyone is made alive in Christ did all died in Adam yes everyone entered spiritual death so everyone has died 1/7 a spiritually so it's appointed man to die once so it all died already and after that the judgment now that's not judgment to death that's judgment to life based in context of Hebrews 9:27 and previously the one sacrifice which has always been made and there no need for any more sacrifices that's what that's talking about because of the evangelical mentality as soon as someone reads judgment they think have punishment in hell forever it doesn't mean that as I explained earlier it means a verdict the verdict is based on the cross and the cross verdict is not guilty innocent so everyone has already been a made alive but they don't know it and even if they are alive in Christ that is why they can go into the presence of God in fire to be purified in fight to fire so that they can make a choice to accept Jesus scene I am I've debated with a number of people who were in furnace and believed in an eternal conscious torment and they no one has been able to show me anything in the Bible that says that death is the end of choice why would death change God from being kind and tolerant impatient that means our death can change a loving daughter who's kind and tolerant it can't God is the same yesterday today and forever he's never changed his love will never fail so when someone goes into that round we can go there and preach to them because Jesus went preached to them didn't he did he not go into the grave did he not go into Sheol did he not preached to the spirits of those who were imprisoned there and did he not lead captivity captain so he's done it now did not Jesus say four we could do everything that he did and greater so when I got to this point when my mind got deconstructed from the religious belief system of evangelicalism and I suddenly realized that my encounters with God in love could not could not be thus be consistent with the God that I met and the God that I thought I knew in my old belief system I had a choice am I going to go with the experiences of God his love that he has given me or am I going to believe in the angry distant deity who punishes people after they die so I looked at every scripture every Bible verse to do with translated hell and there are 56 of them in the King James Version in the new American Standard Version there I think 12 in the literal version of the Bible Young's literal translation or ratha runes literal translation which just literally translates the word and doesn't try and interpret it through a theological system there are no scriptures that say hell because hell is a concept that came out of a different perspective than the Bible because hell is an English word which came from a German North's root which is nothing to do with the words that are in the Bible because the four words that are translated hell in the Bible one is Sheol which literally means the grave so in in inference where people go after they die spiritually but it means grave and it can just mean a literal grave Hades means hidden or unseen by inference where people go so there when they die so they're not seen anymore Tartarus which is only mentioned once in the whole Bible and that is where some angels are imprisoned and the other one is Gehenna and Gehenna is the 12 occasions that it's translated hell in a new American Standard Bible and that was the literal place outside of Jerusalem outside of the Covenant figuratively in which was the rubbish doctor and that in history it was a place where there was child sacrifice and terrible things that took place the Valley of Hinnom that's literally where it was now Jesus when he was referring to people who are going to be thrown into the valley of hinnom he was actually talking about a literal place and he was talking to a literal people who in that generation would have a choice of whether they were going to follow him and escape from the destruction of Jerusalem so they would not be thrown into the valley of hinnom or continue to believe the Old Covenant Scripture and end up in the Valley of Hinnom and sadly in the destruction of Jerusalem in the siege which lasted for years over 250,000 of them were crucified and thrown into the Valley of Hinnom which was burning continually like a rubbish dump does there are today some tire dunks which are on fire and they cannot put them out they are burning perpetually the rubbish duck was burning perpetually and was full of worms eating up and turning the things that were thrown in there into compost which is what worms do so it was a little place so whenever you see Jesus talking about Gehenna he was talking about the consequences of being outside of the New Covenant and and living according to their self righteousness of the law that they would end up in the destruction who has nothing to do with eternal destruction so those that actually followed the law and stayed in Jerusalem and died and were thrown in the you know their bodies were eaten up or burnt their spirits and souls went to another place so their spirit went back to God because that's what it says in Ecclesiastes when anyone dies and does not know a relationship with God their spirit goes back to God and their soul goes into that fiery place so those people who rejected Jesus and followed the law and died physically their soul still went in the fiery place and I bet and guarantee that they were very quick to get out of there because they would realize that what Jesus said was true because he was said it to them and they would have realized that they didn't need to stay into Gehenna they should have never gone there in the first place and they would realize that Jesus was the Messiah was speaking the truth so they're not in there because they've already got out of there now I got to this point okay that Ike realized that there was no actual word in the Bible which was the English equivalent of what we now consider hell that concept came from Dante's Inferno and in the Middle Ages the way that they controlled people through fear to keep doing what the church wanted them to do that's what it was used by so it controlled them that isn't true the Bible doesn't say anything about the devil with pitchforks and all this I mean it's not there that's a myth it's created by the church to control people through fear so what does happen I asked Jesus to show me so I said to him if you want me to teach people something different I am NOT going to teach them a theory I need to go and see now I've been to the fire three times between 2008 five and 2008 and I described it as hell because that in that day that was the only concept I have so people say all the time well what about all these Testaments of people who go and they come back well age they've gone and come back that shows that it's not fixed and they can't get out doesn't know because they've gone and come back so once you go there it means you can get out of there but in there because they came back to tell you the story but what they will see will often be interpreted by what they think they're going to see so you can have Muslims who will have visions of somewhere which will apply and they will see the Muslim version of hell because that's what they're conditioned to see so someone goes I went there and I saw the fire and I saw people and I had no concept that anyone could ever come out of there so I called it hell but it inspired me not to want people to go there but actually what God was doing was giving me a testimony that actually relates to people who have been there and have come back with testimonies because I did and I gave testing from my understanding that I had at the time that's all I could now I have a different understanding so I asked Jesus and he took me there so we went from wisdoms heights in the realm of the Kingdom of Heaven and we went into a fiery door through a fiery tunnel through a place which is Satan's trophy room and in there there is a place of heritage where all our generation lines and their history is recorded because it's been robbed from us so I went and saw that and I was pretty annoyed that my Christian heritage or the heritage of my you know who should have passed on good things to me didn't so I wanted the first time I went there I said I want that stuff back I want that heritage back I want it restored to me because I was selfish really I wasn't thinking about the people because I didn't have no concept that anything could be restored other than what was lost to me so I talked to wisdom and I said can that be restored and she said yes but in my thinking I would thought it was going to be restored so I thought all the generations that they missed is going to be rolled up and given to me Wow that's gonna be amazing so Jesus took me back there and he said okay which of your four generational lines do you want to see father's father father's mother mother's father mother's mother we all have four generational lights that take us back so I said okay I don't know my father's father's generation I would like to go and see them so I guess whatever happened they were called to come into this place but jesus said we'll open the door and go in and I said well where's the door and there was his dog no I'd been there before and I couldn't see a door so I said to him why couldn't I see that door before he said because you couldn't see it because your permit but mind would not allow you to believe there was a door you see what we see is conformed to what we believed were going to see and it takes a lot to challenge that belief so Jesus gave me a silver trumpet and he opened the door and he walked in and I walked in with him and there were thousands and and thousands of people who were standing there from my father's father's generational line and I'm like I didn't know what to do I froze completely gobsmacked so I'm thinking while I'm there frozen what should I do what am I supposed to do I managed to look at Jesus he's saying nothing Thanks so I'm overwhelmed by the experience and I feel compassion for these people then I am the head of their generational life I am responsible because I am now alive and they're dead so eventually I garbled out the Gospel message which was not very good because I was pretty much I didn't know what to do and Jesus turned to walk out and I thought I am not staying here on my own so I followed him but as I went out I thought well I've got this silver trumpet I'll blow it and I did and I quickly followed in the nature I was close behind him and we walked up the fiery tunnel and we came out of the fiery door and then I turned with Jesus and it looked like a fiery sort that was directing the way to the Tree of Life so I turn and I saw about three hundred people followed us and each of them came to the fiery sword door they knelt and they confessed Jesus is Lord and they got her and they walked out from there into Zion and now I know they go off and they get equipped and trained now having done it once I was not content so I've been back multiple times I was in China in 2016 and I woke up three o'clock in the morning and immediately on my mind was forethought the word divorce now my father was divorced and his father was divorced and I have no idea how many others were divorced in that line I didn't know anyone divorced in my other generational lines so immediately I thought I need to make sure that I deal with this generational issue of divorce in my life I'm not going to get divorced I have no intention to get divorce but I was going to I needed to deal with it because I knew that this was related to my generational lines so I went to the altar in the temple where the coals are and the Seraphim are and I presented myself to the altar and I lay on the altar and I asked for the fire to purify my life and my generational line from divorce and sexual sin which is what leads to divorce mostly and I spent time there and I felt hugely compassionate and I felt the guilt shame and condemnation and stigmatism that most of them felt through divorce and I got up eventually and I immediately went back and went into the fiery place and I call for all my generational lights to come forth because I realized that there was divorce and sexual sin in my whole generation of likes as there is in most to be honest and I went there and I preached freedom from guilt shame and condemnation and sexual sin and I preached a really good message this time and I would guess tens of thousands of people followed me out they all confess Jesus is Lord they all receive the knowledge of forgiveness and they all went into Zion now I've done that on multiple occasions through multiple reasons because people resist the good news because mostly of guilt shame and condemnation towards certain things so you've got to preach the right message you know when I came out of there the first time I said to Jesus first of all I said thanks Who am I going to do with this now because I knew I know what controversy this cause I know that I'll get called the heretic and everything else is fine I don't care it's like no one with a theology can beat my experience you can believe whatever you like and I'm not telling you to believe what I'm saying I'm saying go and ask God for yourself because the only way you're going to know the truth is not believing me it's going and asking God to him for him to reveal the truth to you because that will be truth which will be revelation I'm giving you information of my revelation I'm not expecting you to believe it I'm expecting you to hopefully go and ask God to yourselves because then you'll find out the truth so I asked Jesus and I said why didn't people I didn't know if I was in there I would have wanted to come out if there was an opportunity and he said the authority you have to preach is proportional to the fire that touch you in your generational lines so I've done a lot of altar time since that place in fact I continually stay on that altar as a living sacrifice and that has caused me and enabled me to go back and preach now then having pretty much emptied my generational lines God gave me a mandate to preach to other people groups so I've preached to the new age and the occult now I've got no in the New Age alia cult at all but I have a heart to see those who are deceived by counterfeits of the truth unveiled so I went back to those people and I preached the truth the way the truth and the life I decreed and declared the statements of I am the resurrection my life and I am the way the truth and the life and I am The Good Shepherd and I am the daughter the Sheep and I saw again multiple people realized the truth of who Jesus really is and respond to that truth so it was a long-winded way of answering the question but you know I believe though death is not the end of choice and we need to see all our generational lines work now a friend of mine who is I think from the Middle East he spoke to me online in a mentoring session and he said look can I ask you a question I said yeah of course you can so I was in heaven the other day and some of my family came up to me I thought oh that was great he said yeah but they shouldn't have been there I said what do you mean they shouldn't have been there he said well they weren't believers I said well what happened well he said well I I said to him what are you doing here I didn't think you were believers he said I'll no we weren't so he was somewhat confused so he said well how are you here then he said well Jesus came to us and he reminded us that you had been saying that all your household will be saved yes and when he reminded us of what you had been decree and declaring we responded to him and we're saved [Music] okay you need to go and preach to them praying for them won't do it you see and I want to be I want to be sincere about this the way we used to pray does not work anymore asking God to do something for you doesn't work because he's now saying why are you asking me to do what I thought you to do so don't keep asking God to do things for you that you are equipped and authorized to do because I kept doing that and one day God turned out said no I said well aren't you supposed to answer my prayers and he said it's time you grew up and started doing the things that you as a son can do and stop asking me to do them for you and I was a bit taken back but I realized it is time to grow up you see we pray and our understanding of prayer is that we keep asking God and we plead with God to do something well what he's saying is you are sons can do those things yourself so don't pray that those family members who may have died and not know Jesus go and preach to them ask God if you have a mandate to do it don't just go and do it please don't go away from here and so I'm gonna go and try to ask God to take us Jesus to take you and show you what to do because don't step outside of the maturity level you've got I would not have been able to do that back in 2010 or before when I went between 2005 and eight I could not do it because I did not believe it was possible now I can because I do and I have a testimony I have an experience ask Jesus if you can but I believe we all can when we're ready to be able to because God does not want any of his children past present and future to be not in relationship with them you know it says that the gates of the New Jerusalem are continually open they're not shut and when those people come out of there they can't just become part of the cloud of witnesses because they've got no witness and they they've never witnessed to Jesus so they go and get a crash course in what it is to be a believer in the realms of heaven by the angelic realm and the seven spirits of God and some of the cloud of witnesses will go and equip them then they will take their place and they will be the cloud of witnesses to those who are still coming out of the fiery place because they have had that experiences you see they can then be how able to help others who are coming at because they will be the cloud of witnesses to them if you've not been there you've got no destiny of it they have a test me so they have a witness therefore they will be able to help others who do come out in the future okay since God is unconditional love he loves everyone and and the whole beings and creation will Satan come to his love or repent because of his love now this is this is the subject which is causing most controversy within the mystic community today okay now people are drawing hard fast lines and telling people if you believe in the restoration of all things including fallen angels then you were not you can't be part of our group so I believe all means all but I have no testimony of it so does that mean that anybody no matter what they've done can receive the love of God yes so Hitler Stalin Pol Pot would all these terrible people they've already been forgiven so yes they can accept now I don't know I've never met them in the wrong heaven so I don't know whether they have or not and they may be so stubborn they all wrote they're continuing to resist what God's love is because some people can be so self-righteous they never want to admit they're wrong and they have the right to maintain their self-righteousness even in that place so they may well resist but what about fallen angels now did God create angels to have a relationship with him and have a function in creation the answer is yes he did so when they were abandoned and chose to follow the deception of Lucifer who was by the way a very beautiful being and was the Light Bearer and the musician of heaven so he had a huge influence he was one of the covering charities so when a covering cherub says something a lot of them took notice of him so a third of that angelic beings chose to follow that route okay now that's a lot that could be trillions because I believe every star within the realms of creation had Angell aside to it so that means a lot so there's a lot of them so they chose to rebound now did Jesus die on the cross for angelic beings or for human beings well for human beings because he came as a man not an angel and angels are individually created and they're not created as a race although there are orders of angels they're all individually created in that order so what gives us the basis to believe there could be restoration well one that it says there will be the restoration of all things and all means all so that doesn't mean anything at - Jesus was slain as the lamb before the foundation of the world on the foundation stone of creation before anything was created so that includes everything that was created not just human beings so okay that I got to the place where I was willing to say yeah I think it's possible I've never seen it go I can't say for sure I asked arch Church these questions it was like I asked them if you were in heaven one day and you bumped into him no what would you think and what did you feel and I could feel their soul for a spot it was like I wouldn't be fair that can't be fair so I said well okay what's fair for you must be fair for him otherwise it hidden fair their God is not a respecter of persons Jesus didn't die for some he died for all we only measure sin or sins on scales 1% or 99.9 percent is still a faith we have no self righteousness that will enable us to accomplish salvation ourselves that's why we need to come through Jesus so whether we've done millions of bad things or one or two bad things we still have to come through Jesus and Jesus died for all so there is no one who cannot receive the love of God okay so I said to them well what what about if you one day and you were in the road to heaven and you bumped into a fallen angel who was restored or you bumped into Lucifer and they were like you could see it because that is so entrenched into our thinking well the lake of fire was designed for the devil and his angels okay now theologically depending on whether you're a futurist preterist partial preterist historicist your view of Revelation will be very different a future risk will say that that's talking about the end of creation and whatever someone who believes that that's already been fulfilled in Revelation was talking about the destruction of Jerusalem will say that's already taken place now what does it mean well a the word for angel Angelo's and the word for messages own word for messenger okay the word for devil the Abba loss or Satan Satan horse is not a capital letter because there's no capital letters in Greek so it means accuser that could be human accuser as well as a angelic accuser so when you read that it could be that the accuser of the early church and their messengers were thrown into a cannon now that could be the high priests Pharisees fantasies completely see there are certain there are different ways of view in Scripture see it doesn't have to be devil capital D it can be accusers well the abuses were accuses the the those were accusers of the church they were persecuting the church so there are different viewpoints but when it talks about the torment the word for torment comes from the word which is meaningful touchstone which is a testing of metal to test its purity so it doesn't mean torn to punish it can mean testing by fire to purify and doesn't it say that everyone has to go through the fire of judgment and it says that there will be those who are only saved by fire so people can be saved by the fire we think fire is to destroy and every version of fire in the Bible it was to purify and refine even when you think of sodom and gomorrah and sulfur and brimstone come in out of heaven what did it do cleanse the land it was a cleansing fire not a punishment for those in Sodom and Gomorrah because symbolically fire was always to do with refining a purification we've just turned it into punishment and torment because of this wrong concept of help so okay so can they be I believe yes because now I do have a testimony okay so I'm gonna give you the testimony I went to Jesus and I said to Jesus I cannot teach this or refute it if I don't know the truth so can a fallen angel be restored and I need you to show me if that's true so Jesus took me to a fallen angel which has been assigned to our sphere of influence and are one of our mandates is to help people find their destiny and fulfill it so we had something that I saw flying around like a dragon around our sphere infants and I discovered that its name was destiny robber so it was trying to stop us fulfilling our mandate so I saw this in for the first time in 2017 and I was so angry that I wanted to go and chop off its head and chop up its tail which is its sphere of influence and split open and get all the destinies that have been stolen and rot but God wouldn't let me do it because that's the inflation version of how you deal with dragons okay you go and chop their head off which removes their authority you caught their tail off which stops their sphere and you split them open you get out what they've robbed it's done now you can do that but you can't kill a spirit okay it's a symbolic sense of removing authority from something is usurped to Authority somewhere you can't kill something that's spirit you can't kill an angel you can't kill it a fallen angel because they're a spiritual being you can't kill them but you can remove their authority but God wouldn't let me do it so but now he took me to this fallen angel and so I I come face to face with this dragon and immediately I feel Jesus is rough for it and I'm like okay and I start to feel compassion so I found myself declare to this thing that have been robbing us of what we're called to do I said I choose to forgive you and this thing responded saying you can't forgive us we've been told man does not forgive us man hates us man wants to destroy us all I said well I'm telling you I choose to forgive you and you have been afflicting my sphere of influence so I'm choosing to forgive you for what you've done no you can't so I said yes I can and I do and I also release Jesus's forgiveness to you because he's standing here and he forgives you too now at that point I could see thought begin to penetrate so I surrounded this being with my spirit and I took it into my spear and I loved him now you might think this is pretty extreme what it was so I'm demonstrating the compassionate love of God to a being who does not believe it's possible to be restored so I said - to this being I offer you the choice of being restored form from to your former position and its initial response is we cannot be restored we've been told by man we cannot be restored so I said well has God told you that no man has told us and the sons of men have told us so I'm saying what I'm telling you something different are you going to believe it so it responded to what I was doing and I saw the scales come off here and cut off its eyes and fall off its body and light burst forth and I saw a beautiful being who responded to the offer of restoration now the question would be why would we want to destroy something that we can turn to our side and have on our side because if God was going to destroy them why didn't he destroy them when they first rebelled and they wouldn't have caused us all this problems because he was quite capable of doing that if he was going to do it so this was quite an intense experience as you can imagine and then I spoke and I said well what is your name and it said I am of the order of the angels of destiny so it had been turned from its purpose in light and turned to dark as to rob destiny and now it was restored I said will you work with us to restore people's destiny and it said yes I will so we're now interacting with that being to help us now please don't take from this conference that you can just go out and restore everything because it took me a long time to get to that point I had to get to that that where I really did believe that it was possible before I did it it's really important that we know that we have a mandate to do so Jesus gave me that mandate and showed me and took me there now I have talked to others Nancy Koehn included who have done this as well and have done that in some of the ones that she has engaged they are actually still hidden working in the enemy's kingdom giving her information about what the enemy's doing now the same thing would apply to believe people who have come to know God within other religions in what we normally do is we get them out of that religion and we put them in the church then we legalize them and we remove them from their sphere of influence there are Muslims Imams and leaders who are meeting Jesus into dreams and who are accepting Jesus as Lord who are hidden within the Muslim community for the time that's coming and they are going to be the evangelists that turn there was no there are Hindus who have accepted Jesus and have not come out of the Hindu religion but are high in that religion and they are getting ready to reveal the truth to learn Hindu communities there are those in the new-age community who are doing the same they have met Jesus but Jesus has not told them to come out but to stay within and to begin to get ready for the outpouring of the River of Life into the earth so that they will be the Evangelist and they will have not lost touch with those who will receive their message because they've not rejected them as most do now I'm not saying we should stay into it unless God says yeah you know get me right here you need to know what God is saying but these are the ones that Jesus is reaching directly they're not the ones that's being reached by preaching primarily because not that many are responding to the preaching unless you're preaching love in a powerful way Nancy Koehn is engaging with people groups around the world preaching in love in a way which is turning whole tribes to Jesus but she's recognizing that they have truth within their beliefs that can be transformed because she's not preaching against what they're she's did they're doing she's showing them that what they're doing is just as a twisted counterfeit of what God wants them to do this is available to us okay have we gone past the time yep okay well we'll leave it there I've got two or three more that I can answer the next time

Channel: New Order Ekklesia Mumbai

Views: 2,622

Rating: 5 out of 5

Keywords: sonship, sons arise, order of melchizedek, mike parsons

Id: oChwJ0Mn8yc

Length: 90min 27sec (5427 seconds)

Published: Thu Oct 10 2019