Sammy Hagar on The Forward Podcast with Lance Armstrong

[Music] all right Sammy Hagar the red rocker dude and I I don't think I told you this over text but I mean I grew up in Dallas Texas just a little white-trash kid and I was such a fan of yours and that whole era that whole era of rock and roll and and just you know being Halen was actually 1984 was my first concert every Union Wow yeah my mom that was before me that was before you yeah but but that was my first you know that was my first rock show my mom took like eight of us down there Wow wearing parachute pants yeah yeah Texas is always a great state of amazing for Robin a row you know it's like I'm pretty much white trash myself you know and I came from I don't have an education I didn't even graduate from high school I hate to tell people that but it's God's truth and and you know I'm just the luckiest sucker in the world but I work my ass off playing music just like like an athlete would you know you don't just pick up a guitarist our plan I mean I stay up all night every night that's how musicians get on the other side of the clock you know we're staying up all night playing a record player and listen and trying to learn solos learn songs and you do that their whole life and to get good you know you can't just expect to walk out to our stage become a star I mean some people do it right the longevity is usually not there well yeah I'm a Texas good for me yeah always so here we are in Austin you guys got a gig tomorrow night at a Seattle I've done it uh downtown they're never played there I was just gonna ask you if you've ever played it you're gonna like it you're gonna I mean I say that I've never played it I've seen Austin City Limits which is always sounds great so it must be a good sounding room it's it's so this is the new room right so there was not one that was on camp the the historical the show you kind of grew up watching or when you were younger was on PBS that was the on campus at the communications building and then they built a bigger venue which is as in the W Hotel it's about 3,000 seats oh that's where it is the W Hotel yeah it's damn good thing I didn't stay there right groans yeah you become a prisoner you know I mean we get laid when you play it's the ground floor there and Wow there's no bad seat so 3,000 people in there sound is amazing it's just no bad seat well of all the places in Texas Austin is the coolest music town no doubt and it was a place that I had a hardest time breaking you know I broke in San Antonio first then I got big in Houston and then you know Lubbock and and Corpus Christi and everywhere you know Dallas and I'll be doing to it to reunion arenas you know - Houston's - everywhere and it'll come to Austin and do they don't like six five or six thousand people it's just really weird they never even Van Halen we'd do doubles everywhere but but Austin we'd barely sell out one awesome it's such a music town it's like it's more culty I think you know if you get a little friendly yeah and which is cool so yeah that's why I'm playing this building you know cuz I usually skip Austin I'll just play used in Dallas in San Antonio maybe and move on I don't tour that much anymore anyway but but yeah so my wife's from here that my beautiful tomas yeah that you that you see you got the eyes for us I might have to keep Kiki better I'm coming ahead gig tomorrow night let me just tell you something I got full-time security on a woman like that are you crazy you better be real [Laughter] yeah that's great I know she's about 13 or 14 she went to Sacramento to Sacramento and then she moved back and went to school in Virginia yeah and that's where I met her huh yeah yeah now she's you guys got a couple kids got a couple guy I got two sets of kids my first marry I'm with you I got two sons yeah it's so that's I got two boys one of them's everybody's sitting down I want to cause any trouble around here my oldest boy is 5505 oh just turned that that's older than me really yeah Wow well you could be my son and then my other boys 34 and he's on tours me he's opening he's an acoustic oh yeah he's bad and he'll play tomorrow night he's really good he calls himself SOS and an ain't Son of Sam but we call I say it's Son of Sam dude I said you gotta capitalize on it somehow but I did think it was interesting because the world knows you as Sammy Hagar and in all and all of the footage I was watching I watched the the old vh1 show is his I'm married to Sammy Hagar so it's mostly about your wife talking about y'all's relationship she never once called you Sammy it was always Sam I know every he was always saying it's so funny my mom was the only one to call me Sam he growing up and I was always Sam hey gars and and then when I started becoming in Montrose at 72 73 started becoming a celebrity on the first Montrose Thomas is Sammy Hagar and from then on Allen said Sammy my record company when they when I left Montrose that I became a solo artist they they made a record and said Sammy Hagar you know it's a nine on ten scale look like birthday cake writing and and I just accepted it it was just really loud I and now that I've done it now that I'm 71 going around being Sammy you know it sound like a little kids name and I think you know there's only two Sammy's you know kind of you know Sammy Davis jr. and myself that really and so I'm cool with I'm saying you know what [ __ ] it you know I mean yeah it's kind of got a youthful thing to it and and but when somebody calls me Sam I'm always saying somebody in the family I'm going to yeah it's my [ __ ] brother over there is something you know yeah you know and all this footage I watched of you and the interviews I read and I'm watching it going man the [ __ ] wrong with this guy he's he's always in a good mood like he's never I never none of this stuff that may be a little bit 1-1 clip i watch was when y'all did that reunion tour and I was with both you and David Lee Roth but but other I mean every clip I'm like did what do they slip in this guy like is it what the [ __ ] is in his water like I was he always in a good mood well Lance like you said you know I came from a poor background and I'm grateful yeah and I've always been grateful it's like everything I ever got I felt like I worked for and I felt like I deserved it so I didn't ever feel like you know like I did you know yeah you know you feel uncomfortable I mean I see guys so uncomfortable with their fame you know I bet you you've seen it yeah you know and I'm thinking what the [ __ ] you know what's your problem here man you just should be grateful dude right as I thought this is what you wanted you know I mean like you know guys like they've got van Halen brothers I mean they're just miserable with it you know and it's just like you just sit and just go man I so it with the more I'm around miserable people the happier i get you know i i'm i enjoy a [ __ ] out life man that's all and and i know what to do with you with my that's that's with my chair very apparent yeah it's it's cool to see you man and it's almost like you know I really I just love a story like Jimmy Buffett story right so yes my hero yeah I mean it's what you've you in many ways you've emulated his model right or copied his model whereas you have you know fantastic music career and then boom let's spin off and do a tequila boom let's spin off and do a club let's do some restaurants let's dude now you got to see them you know we'll talk about the rum but and it's that's what he's done I mean the guy's out everything about Jimmy Buffett I mean he's out doing he's doing nursing homes down I know you develop community communities yeah but and it's you know and they're big boos and they're big and I mean it's like it's a whole it's just a whole thing it's awesome he's got a great group of people I've only met one or two yeah the guys around him but he's got guys smart guys he's a smart guy very smart guy yeah but it's so funny how everyone you know compared me when I first started doing the Cabo Wabo thing and all that my wife I met my wife khari when I was still in in Van Halen and she was from these Co specters she was a above a guy and I didn't know nothing about Jimmy Buffett the West Coast guy he came to West Coast I guess but I didn't know about so she's gone she meets me in you know we started dating and it was hanging out and then I left my wife like any man would for for a woman he fall deadly in love with you know and so I said I gotta take you to Cabo man you gotta see my place and all this stuff so we take her to come she goes man you know you remind me of Jimmy Buffett what I thought it was a hell are you talking about Jimmy Buffett I remembered Margaritaville you know that was all I knew about Jimmy Buffett Cheeseburger in Paradise Markie yeah but yeah but basically all I can remember is Margaret because that was really a cool so I'm so much mean all of his songs are cool but but Margaritaville that was a destination you could just see it you know he just explained it so well that it look what I did he launched a whole career off that thing but anyway I don't know if we can confirm it not to interrupt but but but I've heard and I guess I could just ask Jimmy because he's a friend of mine that Margaritaville is Austin in Austin is Margaritaville really that he wrote that song probably you'd think it was the keys and I would think wrote it here so he spends a Bundy just left here he does all his rehearsing here one of my best friends in Aspen we live in Aspen now is Mike Ramos has been his tour manager for 30 plus years so it's just I've been chasing Mike around trying to get Jimmy to do my TV show coming Jimmy told me that he's got to [ __ ] do it come on now you go get him right now I got another hand on it does have to do and you imagine me interviewing Jimmy Buffett that imagine that's the [ __ ] right there yeah you know so but the long story short so I said oh ah man so we get back to San Francisco she and he's playing that comes up in the next four or five months and she goes come on it's go see Jimmy Buffett I'm going okay I get there I thought we're gonna go to some little dive Club and I get to 19,000 people partying and I'm going I was blown the [ __ ] away right and it changed my mentality I went oh yeah now I see what she's talking about and I kind of start rolling my music and lifestyle together you know not copying Jimmy doing my own thing we come with Mexico style what he was doing with the key but you know the islands and a lot of these guys are like who ain't Zac Brown's doing that Metallica is doing a scotch or whiskey or something yeah yeah I mean that's that's that's it became a trend I didn't know what I was doing you know when I when I built Cabo Wabo that was just purely out of passion I bought a little condo in Mexico I went to Cabo one flight in a week one flight out no newspapers no TVs no telephones so I went down and I fell in love with the place that said my god this is unbelievable you know and I could walk down the street and dirt roads and everything back then and I could walk down the street and fricking red leather pants and jumping up and down with a guitar scream and I can't drive 55 and nobody would say who da [ __ ] is that crazy gringo you know no one knew me it was great you know and so I fell in love with I Selma bill they look at aquila bar down here and I and that's how it started I didn't have any idea I wrote the song Cabo Wabo said called it Betty on the phone from Mexico later on gotta win my condo I got a phone I had a first telephone in Mexico had a first satellite dish in Mexico at the common well I had a first fax machine okay when I say Mexico in Kabul right and back way back then but anyway I start building that brand out of love I just really wanted great Mexican food want to call my friends down say man that's just jam for free never charged and and it took off and when the tequila came out it was just at the beginning he was so it's it's the right time now people always come to me and say oh man you're so smart how'd you that I want to do it get you teach me to get into business and [ __ ] I'm doing you know like it's like walking through a lawn and stepping in dog [ __ ] you can't get it off your foot you know what I mean that's you know I've spent I'm afraid to even admit how much time I spent in Cabo I love I love Cabo Mexico but I really love Baja I love Cabo but my favorite I've don't you probably ever been over to nowhere bar well I got there on the port you know and so and I've been that's Clooney and two boys they go hang around over yes with all the discovery on El Dorado guys they go down there but but and I've been full full confession I'm in a Cabo Wabo of course but so you know in Vegas they say you know what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas and the nowhere bar sells these t-shirts that says what happened in Cabo never happened that's that's my slogan it's amazing that's my say stole it they stole [ __ ] say [ __ ] stole it nothing right that's okay that's alright that's like nothing wrong as long as they'd say the right thing is because it's funnier chip but it's true I made a cobble people get down there any old days Lance I saw [ __ ] girls do [ __ ] that you just thought what some straight chick man if she crosses that border couple shots of tequila on that table and getting down and I'm not as raunchy as Merle Haggard's porn though it ain't Merle's porn it's a porn Merle bought from the guy that he said now now let's get this straight the guy said Merle bought that porn from him you weren't and when I watch it out that if Mora likes this stuff man woof god help him man god bless Emmitt yes oh yeah Kabul is a funny place people I mean Mexico in general people cross that border in it and tequila makes you do funny things you know it's but it's a fun town it's my favorite it's my favorite spirit mine too but it just it and I guess that's people probably know this I mean it's just different than vodka or whiskey or it's just really different it's and it not it's not always a good thing well it makes you feel so good it's kind of euphoric you kind of think you can drink more than you can that's the only problem with tequila you know I mean if most guys that have a drinking problem they're gonna have that problem with anything they drink but guys that don't have a drinking problem you still can [ __ ] up with tequila because you just start having such a good time off one more shot boom and it tastes really good you know that the salt for me salt and lime is still part of the ritual with tequila that's what makes it really fun and and the true way to drink tequila is to have salt first not not ionized salt you know not that blue not tan stuff we don't know you want sea salt or kosher salts fine but good for sea salt because it's got a little more flavor in it you know a little taste of that do it sip tequila drink it shoot it whatever you're doing and then bite that lime or orange or lemon any kind of citrus and man that is just like the cleanest just go yeah I'm there I know what you mean yeah yeah it's finished it's really a it's a cool thing no you don't do vodka like that you don't even do whiskey like that you're lucky yeah if you can shoot whiskey I'm not a whisk I'm not a brown spirit guy I'm even like Adam you we're like long-lost brothers yeah spirits now I'm out yeah I like Blanco tequila you know I'm a blanco guy and my newest one I only make monk Omega it's called miss Keela Santo and it's it's a Blanco half of the scale I have tequila yeah and when it's they do a special blend thing that makes it come together that I it's a some magical process and we call it a higher spirit because if you mix them two together it's nasty and I wanted to be able to shoot it in order to drink and I didn't want to have to mix it because it tastes so damn good and when you get it right so I don't know what the process is well you know this guy at LV he thought made the original caramel WA tequila - he's doing it and now I just made this Blanco so damn good I said well let's just do the Blanco by itself - but I don't want to would I don't don't put it wouldn't as far as I'm concerned ruins it huh you know not runs it what gives you the headache - by the way folks really oh yeah it's that would ban the tannin in that would brown spirits give you a headache like a [ __ ] we call that headache sauce and and not to get too much and you sold Cabo Wabo to was a Campari group apart yeah 90 mil well good investors it was a hundred million dollars but I wanted to keep 20% I was got I got greedy which is the last thing anybody should ever do in their lives I brought up I have a new album called space between it's about money greed enlightenment and truth and greed is the stumbling block for everything with everyone and we are all greedy mmm I mean here I go guys give me a hundred million bucks and I say well I want to keep 20% cuz I was going they'll build this brand they launched a worldwide and my 20% will be worth another 100 million right you wanted two bites at the Apple I did yeah and and it was wrong I got [ __ ] so I ended up with 93 million but but when I sold it back I got 13 for that what was worth xx the first time I saw back seven years later and because they're a big company they said Oh our overhead and now we're 10% of this and so here's your sure I was getting 20% royalties I'm going man they're there they're dying with my brand you know it you know I was making all that money but they weren't it's just the way they build a brand they put 13 people on payroll for just that brand and they they do all these things and so long you owned it outright owned it outright so the 93 went to me I had a 14% partner in Mexico Wow good for you man yeah oh no it's a lot of scratch yeah that's partly why I'm so happy [Laughter] about how you're happy and you know you've embraced your fame and all this [ __ ] you were saying I'm I'm literally in my head going the guy sold us tequila bran for a hundred million dollars he has it's he doesn't give a [ __ ] about anything he's got a hot wife and and he's got a band he loves and he's here in Austin Texas and I'm like nah no wonder he's so happy you know it was it was life-changing it's a funny thing I never even dreamed that one you know I mean that's the one you didn't dream it if one even imagined you never thought you just didn't even go there and and when things happen like that though that's like the miracle level you know you've had that experience I'm sure that miracle there you go wow this is like really [ __ ] awesome yeah you start you know like you said you know the guy work foot down up down the dirt road in Cabo with no phones and no band did screaming as loud as you know I can't drive 55 and over and all of a sudden boom yeah it all it all came through a channel that was really the Cabo Wabo Cantina a place where you went like a like a Margaritaville and it's like you think about it's a destination and everything came through it I put the tequila in there I just planned on just putting it in my bar you know this is what this I'm I'm blowing my own West I'm throwing myself under the bus and I'm not that smart I just want to put the tequila my bar I wanted to make about 20 30 cases a year selling my bar we had to come and you say oh man Sammy's tequila's really good you know and somebody tasted it made a real story about it in an airline magazine American Airlines start coming down there more often and blah blah blah just forgetting getting phone calls hey man you wanna bring to America I said yeah sure what do I have to do just find this sign this contract well we'll go get it all done for him but that's when I had my Mexican partner Marco Monroy who I said him charge of production I'd say yeah we need 6,000 cases go down and talk to the guys and put the money up you know up front and you know it's like I spent $50,000 period we're launching Cabo Wabo tequila that's all the money I ever spent it's a turn I know 50 that's Warren Buffett asked me to do a speech to a thousand people at his GE summit about six years ago and he said that's why he said I he heard about right and he read in my book and he said I said why do you want me doing this [ __ ] man talking he said because you think different than these guys he said you took $50,000 turned into 100 million he goes these [ __ ] I wish they've got all these guys don't know how to do that I said well I don't either you know right well every year you do your birthday party yes but it goes on for like two weeks this birthday party is that trip ten days not anymore at seventy I cut it down to three days okay last year and this year it's gonna be three days again and eventually I'm gonna cut it down to one day my birthday and eventually I'm gonna get somebody like I'll get the biggest man in the world to play my birthday for yeah yeah well it's really it's it's turned into a really an all-star jam thing I've had so many great people come to I can't even remember all I'm I'm it's just been smooth kenny chesney yeah all those guys yeah Kenny brought his whole damn band down there one year I think for my 60th and said he went on stage and played three hours and 40 minutes with this whole band he brundin surprised me if I'm my birthday and I'm going [ __ ] man this is awesome look at my club finally I went up played hour with them Michael Anthony and when I played an hour with him a couple other people jam with them and and then he comes off stage and said what the [ __ ] why why quit now I said man we got a piss drinking beer all night while but it was it's been it's been a great right I love the Kaba wasps my favorite thing I've ever done yeah you know if you say what's your favorite thing nine eight van Halen I love in him but you know it's it's it ain't Montrose it ain't nothing it's [ __ ] Cabo Wabo baby building that having that dream or that vision and then seeing it come true and then having to go beyond the dream that's about as good as it gets have you ever ridden a bike down to Baja yeah I did yeah oh no no [ __ ] no the roads are treacherous yeah the only the safe that the only to the only place I ever rode down and uh in Cabo was on and this is when they first built that toll road from the airport now there's a second part of the you know that kicks over straight to Cabo San Lucas the the the new toilet but when they first built that original toll road nobody used it I get second thing was empty yeah so I'd go I'd ride on that a big old shoulder not many cars that's why I Drive but you can't like the corridor road and I mean you you would die I mean your ass over just look at the flowers on the side of the road folks we know those little flowers and crosses they mean something I thought maybe but but you ever ride from California all the way down cuz that I've driven a few times and it's treacherous it's treacherous to ride a dirt bike and I think you always wanted to do that trip from from Ensenada or Tijuana to the ticket to Cabo so you ride your bikes yeah you know a dirt bike that would be that's that's rough going landscape yeah but with a group I mean you know I don't you don't go out I mean it's not like I roll out there alone I mean you know beat your back up and your kidneys in your ass in there but damn sure getting old man tell me about this band you got now cuz I like a supergroup I mean you know I mean I could spend the whole hour talking about John Bonham I mean it's just you know but as any drummer and they'll tell you John Bonham II I mean you go to the country world and you ask those drummers you go to the jazz world and they'll talk about John Baum you know he's he was he was such a deep pocket guy so Jason plays exactly like he did Jay does yes right and I'm even going starting to go out on a limb you know Jay since 50 now you know he's 47 48 you know it's like my son's age and I really feel like his father I feel like I'm being his dad's tapped me on the shoulder to keep an eye on my boy keep an eye on my boy cousin Jason could get Wow he went he went really bad about eight years he stopped drinking I think he's a hero me it's been more than maybe I should say it's more than that but maybe it's eight years when I met him this last time he's been with me for five years but long story short he's clean and and he was a crazy man just like them old seventies rock star guys you know and and he plays so good now if his dad were alive of course I mean he would have been even better than he was at when he was the greatest rock rock drummer right at 30 Jason's just like him no hit held was I know 35 or so young too young you know and so he soon was there Jason our Jason was not young but he 9 he was older the I thought he was 14 I thought I had it I was trying to get I'm not sure but he was old enough to have known his dad oh yeah yeah and his dad that's all he talks about he is so you know hungry for that you know to have known as Dan and and for to be able to show his dad what he's done and because his dad used to always brag about him got all these pictures he shows us videos of him at five years old playing drums and his dad sitting there you know look at my kid you know that's so cool oh it's really cool but Jason is playing as good as his dad I mean I don't care what anybody says you know it almost sounds like blasphemy but I'm sure his father would tell you the same thing and I'm sure Jimmy Page returned the same thing if he played with him today so when Jason sat in with my band five years ago in his hometown he came down I had Vic Johnson Michael Anthony was out with me just coincidentally because he wasn't really in my band I had a girl bass player named Mona for all them years with the wobbles that was my party ban and Invicta Johnson yeah and I mean really a party of true party man we just had a good time and no set list I party you know there's more like a Jimmy Buffett kind of thing we went out there and played as long as we couldn't and said okay we're done no long course we're never didn't on course on this earth but anyway so the Mikey would come out and hang with us for a while not do a van Halen set in the middle of our show Jason's on side stage I'm going I see him it's all Jason haven't seen for a long time last time he was in Mexico we had to bust the door down and get him out and get him on an airplane Ian I'm going to the hospital on me and went straight to rehab and we saved his life he was gone he came down there and just went all the way and so that's the last time I'd seen him and and I'm going hey Jason how you doing man I said you know poundcake he's going yeah yeah I might you know I said jump on the drums I complained in Tucson see okay gets up their plate pumpkin we're gonna holy [ __ ] sound like somebody put a new drum set up there you know like you change the kid out or something manager the same stick same drums I'm going wow man circles hey you don't finish what you started yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna [ __ ] let's do some Led Zeppelin okay a whole lot of love rock and roll you know and we just the next day I I just said I'm gonna get him in the band I called him up and said you want to join my band he said sure and I said well I got three more shows I'll see it I'll call you next week and then flew him out we rehearsed two weeks and put a show the drummer had to give the sticks to John Bonham jr. and I just kept my key I said Michael Anthony Jason Vic Johnson yeah and we call himself the circle because we we play everything we play from even you know some Led Zeppelin I don't play as much as when we first started we played five Led Zeppelin five Sammy Hagar five Van Halen to Montrose to Chickenfoot that was our that was our set right come on not a bad set people say have a hard time so we least now we trimmed it down because we got a new album so we play you know Van Halen's I mean about for Van Halen songs and about five cent early Sammy song it's a little Montrose and we play a bunch of new stuff and in a Zeppelin yeah one corner right now well some we switch it up but we we have the whole catalogue but we always play rock'n'roll a whole lot of love good times bad times or when the levee breaks those are Led Zeppelin I'm going tomorrow night you know that come on brother to it I'm the no I was mom it's mandatory no no I I'm in I'd loved I thought that's was why I was doing this interview so I could cook on you and at least now I'm in man leaving the next day I'm gonna send it off right well that's cool man he that's cool that he has that relationship with his you know obviously sad song he channels he challenge I mean people freak out when he kicks off rock and roll yeah every time you know that's my jam song that's my go-to jam song you know Richie Sambora's in town he joins us for that and rock candy the mantra some rock candy those two songs and Led Zeppelin Rock roll there ain't a guitar player or singer that don't know themselves if they don't they ain't jam with me because it's staples brother well I can't relate to you but rock and roll's they all come out and when Jason kicks it up Bob could kinda pop about it's a guy that's got the wickedest time everyone thinks the one somewhere and that it's not so everyone [ __ ] it up but but when Jason plays it it's like everybody's going whoa it just sounds exactly like the record you know was interesting because I you don't know this and you shouldn't you know and I don't a singer but you should not should not know this well that's good because I was just about to tell you that I'm a drummer so I fancy my daddy really really bad amateur shitty drummer like four-on-the-floor I got it I can you know the the transitional so I can't do that but anyways so I was well I watched the stern interview that you did just here recently and you played some songs live and he was playing you know you guys had your instruments and he's sitting in front of what looked like almost a laptop and had a little you know foot pedal yeah and he's playing this and it sounds just like a drum set but it actually is just like a checkerboard or something you know like I don't know like tic-tac-toe this thing he did you see it I mean it's and it's groovin he was 100% up [ __ ] you wouldn't if you closed your eyes you think he's sitting there that's it Howard was freaking out on that too yeah he had just got that it was in a little briefcase he walked he's my drums because first I was just going on Howard Stern Show myself and then then Howard's go well I want you to perform I'm going I can't perform Howard a [ __ ] seven or eight o'clock in the morning it's like four o'clock morning me and singers just do not function on that hour so I struck I I struggle I say you ain't gonna do the [ __ ] show [ __ ] Howard trying to tell me what I have to do you know and all this horseshit well I got a new record oh and when my book came out read my uncensored life in rock Howard Stern loved that book and got me yeah on this show the first week and the next day 37,000 [ __ ] copies he went it went straight to number one New York Times bestseller and I'm going that's what my manager is going you see you're not gonna call Howard I said yeah but damn so I said okay then I'll bring Michael Anthony yep and then so I have somebody to sing harmony and stuff with Michaels Michaels got a great voice oh he's great then I thought well Mikey's on bass and I I don't play guitar and sing that good anyway without another guitar player so I'll just bring Vick you know I was one of those kind of deals that whoa well why don't you just [ __ ] bring Jay say so because you can't set up a whole drum set Jason goes I've got this [ __ ] briefcase right you know so he flies up from Florida and we've never used the damn thing it's been free for the people at home that are wondering what the hell were talking about just go good you know I'm good at YouTube and it type-ins you know Howard Stern Sammy Hagar and the it's it's actually amazing did you see it he play I mean it's mine boy and I was like that's I know the side of it you know he just programmed it on the plane I guess yeah he's got it he's got the feel you know he just really feels it throughout his body yeah I watched the little clip with Jenny McCarthy and you were talking about how you know I think and I I did her I did stir him probably two years ago and and actually Mark who's sitting right here was like dude are you sure you wanna do that and a lot because he fraida they just don't know what what's coming and you don't know what side of him you're on so I was like he'll dig it up well he was dude he was and I don't know if he was just doing me a solid or if he is it likes me or a fan or or or he was just having a good old day but it was it was amazing like he was there was no no shade at all like he was and I was talking about if he respects you yeah I mean it was that's the thing about that's what I've noticed the guy that was on before us was some guy that's got some new swing and website or something where he's him and as he married this chick and she's an ex-porn star something I don't really know I shouldn't say what they are cuz I I was kidding I was napping in the [ __ ] thing for and I was catching the tail end of it and he was gripping this guy apart really he's gone I mean you know you're letting your old lady blow the driver the car you know they know what the cab driver said that she gave him a [ __ ] and you were okay with that you know and the guys going hey Howard man you know like man this is really [ __ ] up I mean they were getting into it and I open and he and he's getting Robins in there oh my god that is awful oh man they just ripped this poor [ __ ] a partner he was he was just trying to get some people to check his porn site out or something you know so his swinger sign out so he goes he well of a said I see this guy's often passed my dress you know we have a TV in our room and you would sit there watch it and this guy's huffing puffing out a guy who's interested you guys are up next [Laughter] yeah he can be rough but he's you know he's he's the best in the business like he's it's the best interview of it yeah he's the best yeah and you know a guy who started out as sort of the shock job Ryan kind of crazy and all these gimmicks and tricks and you know attention grabbing a headlock all this stuff I mean he's the best like me sitting right here asking you questions like you know I'm one 1,000 he's the best he does it better than I've tried to analyze him because how he how he gets how he does it because but before I went on there I was saying I want to try to spin you know cuz he he always wants to take you down the van halen road and all the controversies in me and eddie about me getting [ __ ] underneath the stage there and Eddie's guitar solo he always wants to go there so so I was kind of studying him and I'm we can go there to [Laughter] have these tents on the side of the stage where we'd go change they don't like changing tents and then Van Halen and my tent was here and Eddie's was next to mine and you know they were separated though and Mikey and our on the other side blah blah blah so you know and Eddie take 20 30 minute our solo sometimes you know so I just get a [ __ ] during his during his guitar so you know it was it was pretty convenient you know and I wrote about it in my book and yes my wife got rid of those tents by the way as soon as I met by the way I didn't beat my wife in the tent okay your wife's really hot go take a nap yeah I'll go pick her up perfect oh I trust you completely Vance just take a tandem bike down there yeah yes you don't have much luggage despite some new clothes everywhere we go think you do do that I read about this you know I'm gonna talk about two things because it's not both of these I did not know that you did but one of the interviews I read every town that you play in you write a check to the local food bank yeah and for ten years pretend something and I apparently to the tune of over three million bucks to date something like that pretty awesome you know it is but I mean and and not just because you feel like people need to get food but you grew up you know on the poor side and food was was maybe not not always around or like it should have been and so that's that's you know that's that that's what revoked me but the first time I did it I decided to go down to the food bank in San Francisco because I do this charity called acoustic for a cure and there's the which is this May 15th yeah May 15 and so I give all that money to a bank but there was some extra money so I went down to the San Francisco Food Day was the first time ever done because I've been doing it for 10 years but and I've only been to occlusive akyuu for six years so now I'm thinking about so I took but I took I had ten thousand extra dollars so I said I'm gonna take it down to San Francisco Food Bank and give it to him personally you know so we call them out I'm gonna come down I want to hand out food I want to get out I don't want to just write a check you know how you get if you get your hands wet and you get dirty yeah you feel it a lot more so I wanted to really feel what it was all about so I went down there I haven't been at a food bank since I was a kid and when I was a kid it wasn't food banks anyways we went to the church or the union hall where my dad worked at Steel Workers Union and they used to hand out he's in hams at Christmas and stuff you know so we always did that but so I went down there and I'm looking at these people and it ain't just really down and out be will you see some normal families a phantom husband a wife with two or three kids young kids they're waiting in line with the kids and they're dressed nice you know you know and I'm going wow so I start talking to people and what I found is the most amazing thing was you know you got a lady that's a maid they both work guys a gardener and they got four kids and you know the hot water heater goes out or the insurances do it they need tires on a car on the truck and they're short you know they're barely you know Inc and on a living and they go down to the food bank a couple times a week and it saves them they make a few hundred dollars a month extra money that don't have to you know buy food and I thought that was the most beautiful thing I've ever seen this is helping people survive you know and it's tough out there so I thought that's why I like food banks is it's not just throwing money into a big giant bank account like some big charity organization which are great you know they're all good if you're doing the right thing it's all good but when you give to a food bank man they go out and buy food is that [ __ ] and they start and they hand out as much as they can yeah and when they run out of food they run out right any more money that's my my go to I don't want to put my money in somebody else's bank account you know I it's a pretty straight line you give them some money to buy the food rather than they I mean well then literally within a day and without put to work mmm ya know yeah and then accused I didn't know this either I mean this just came up I think it was in the Forbes interview the acoustic for cure so this is what benefits the pediatric cancer program at the u.s. UCSF many off Children's Hospital Marc Benioff the founder of Salesforce so it's you guys Sammy Hagar iron friends Tom Johnson Chad Kroeger Lukas Nelson Joe Satriani Rick Springfield Nancy Wilson of heart Michael yeah I mean also at the Fillmore every year we have the Fillmore I know man see it's a finite thing I don't ask we don't what I love about this event I do a lot of charity stuff in you do - I know that and you know sometimes it's too much silent auction too much bidding onstage and auctions and Shinzon they show films of babies dying and stuff man and doctors giving speeches and I don't want to do all that we we I skip all that no sign an option either you buy a ticket and I have it costs $27,000 to put this event on because I don't pay anybody I call these people up myself I don't call their manager because managers as well you know hey I'm gonna check all of Tommy Johnson Tommy you available in this state why what do you need before you are you available in this [ __ ] day okay no pay and you're doing it you know and everyone everyone comes to the party it's just great but the thing is is so I give $100,000 to UCSF so that's how it's that Fillmore holds 1,100 people so the tickets are scaled that way so it's not like a bunch of money's got to go for this and for this and that overheads really slow as no one gets paid and just you know unions buildings and logistics putting people in hotels and stuff in the ground transportation and airfare so long story short I give gene Nakamura $100,000 personally a year to her cause which she's does all the research for infants born with brain tumors and have to be radiated immediately like there's no no chance otherwise and radiation is not a great thing I mean it's gonna come back and it can kill you know all these other things so she is doing a program and she's trying to build their immune system Fionn said have the best immune system in a world and you got to go and you got to kill it so through vitamin therapy and immune system and this and that she's getting these kids you know she's got 14 15 year old kids and so I I'm giving her money 50 grand to each assistant so that she can spend more time in the lab laboratory and less time and clerical work and filling out papers and yeah interviewing patients you're just a straight line guy man yeah it's the same thing it is the same thing I'm just paying a couple you just changed the words were different but but the idea was exactly this yeah money's got to go dry can't keep the money in my bank account I don't need to put in somebody else's bank account I want it to go right to work yeah because we're every people are desperate man it out there we need help fast so anyway then I like helping the other my last thing that I love to do is I love to help the families that have those kids that ain't got the money to say in a hotel or an apartment building in San Francisco for three months while their baby's being you know fried with radiation and so I try to pay for their food and lodging and transportation for months I'm a family member in San Francisco's you know one of the most expensive cities in the world Wow so I mean you can imagine three months of that but and then you know the alternative is you go stay you know across the bridge and it's they're already stressed they're already tired then you're commuting from someplace where there's a cheaper hotel but that's oh yeah guys like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates they're building hospitals and and schools and things for for people with facilities to stay in you know there's a lot of rich people out there that are doing the right thing and you know like a lot of people are down on originals right now there's this big divider pour hate to rich rich think the poor is a problem blacks and whites of my sink blanks problem all that horseshit it's like come on man the problem is is that if everybody just it depends what you do with your money you know it's not how could you hate Warren Buffett because he's rich he does more with his money than the government you know so I'm a big fan of that it's it's it's about what you do with your money and with your fame and your fortune so I'm I'm growing up let's talk about Van Halen yeah and crazy [ __ ] that was you know I met I actually never met him in person but when when Eddie was diagnosed and for the listener or the viewer who doesn't remember this he was diagnosed with tongue cancer yeah and they wanted to cut off in the way it works is they'll cut off a little bit of your tongue if they don't get it then I'll go cut off more and pretty soon you know that they'll take almost all of it and it's it's you know so he he called me and said and he was he had it was interesting he was he had all these theories about how he got tongue cancer [Laughter] you see so ants I always played with a copper guitar pick or something some kind of metal guitar pick and I would you know some parts of my solos I would put in my mouth and I'm just sure that because the electricity of the guitar through my body to that pick that was in my mouth that's why I got it I'm like well I'm not doctor but I don't know if that's right there's cigarettes what about them cigarettes it was just and then he had all these other little funny things he would talk about you know with Valerie and whatnot and whatnot with but anyways he was a interesting Billy quirky he's a quirky dude went and we talked probably four or five times and that was it but yeah he was roughing that that era that period right I was 2004 Ringo he did that reunion and he had the kid just had the cancer had the operation he had a doctor it was tightening him up pretty good with a lot of interesting things and as far as I'm concerned he was that's that's when him and I said I can't I can't be around a guy like this he was way out I can't sway way too often yeah and I hate ice talked about it my book and I swear I'd never do it again because it's almost like you know the boys club I threw him under the bus but I threw myself under with him I didn't say hey he was doing cocaine we were doing cocaine he wasn't [ __ ] girls we were [ __ ] girls you know I mean so I went under the bus with him but but he was so gone during that thing that he did the craziest [ __ ] I've ever seen by doing my life and I probably should have quite thrown him under so far because he'll probably never speak to me him and I would love to be friends because that's all I care about in my life is not taking an enemy to my grave or them taking me as an enemy to their right that means a lot to me yeah yeah and so I've tried to reach out a few times but he's he's you know he's okay now I mean I think he's okay physically I mean I but I know he's not like it whacked out the way he was doing he was drinking a [ __ ] case of smoking louwman red wine a day out of the bottle and had all of his teeth for gone because he had all the radiation and I think all the fillings and everything I also had about four teeth hanging in there and they were black anymore a big overcoat that was full affecting drugs and a couple bottles just to walk from the hotel room to the car and and you know he was just crazy he was turning over tables he was [ __ ] kicking wind chills out of every car we got it we're in a g5 it at 45,000 feet he's got a red wine bottle empty a rented g5 and banging the [ __ ] window with the bottle and blastin you know red wine all over the nice white yes because he was so angry because everybody was down on him because he couldn't play because he was super wasted all the time and and it was just horrible I just hated it seemed like that and I just said man I never spoke to him since then Wow Wow did not know when you read when you poke around and read I mean it's it's in a lot of these articles that when they they would and there's controversy or varying stories over how David Lee Roth left did he quit did they kick him out but not but you got you and Eddie share a car mechanic and I don't think most people know this so you guys would somebody had a Lamborghini and somebody had a Ferrari and they were both being worked on at this place the Italian dudes place and they just punted David Lee Roth and the mechanic goes well you should call my friend Sammy this is his car you should call him to be in the band exactly that's the craziest [ __ ] like I didn't know that it's the same story as Cabo Wabo tequila it's like walking through the lawn you step in dog [ __ ] you can't get it off your foot you know that's my story of my life and he calls me and says hey man it's Eddie Van Halen I'm going whoa really ya know it was that simple you know yeah my Ferrari was sitting there getting a service and I was on tour on a VOA tour 1984 and and Eddie just came back from there 84 tour and they I guess I don't know if Roth quit or if they kicked him out the same thing with me people think that like Eddie and now it's just that I quit I got fired yeah Sunday morning 9 o'clock father's day laying there and my two month old baby Yukari and I first baby we had and she he goes hey man you know you only just want to be a solo artist and and hey we're gonna get Dave back anyway so you can go be a solo artist I went out of bed like a like I saw a ghost and if I can run around of swinging free you know I don't think people either I don't think people only people remember that that because you obviously have been hailing with David Lee Roth in your van Halen with you they had more success way more success with you than with David Lee Roth we all number one records every building in the world yeah it wasn't like we were mom and Eddie just was starting to go crazy and then he you know went all the way through that whole thing and then the reunion and but I you know I don't know like I said I hope he's solid now I've seen picture seven recently I looked up pictures yeah he's he doesn't look best he's ever look but he doesn't look like he's you know when Eddie's got weight on him that's when he's not drinking okay and doing it because he's got a little pooch yes to the picture and that's much of that motorcycle yeah just a collides love Eddie with a little belly on him and because when he's skinny and crazy-looking he's doing all the wrong stuff and he he's he's a llama he's great though look one of the greatest guitar players ever live him and I wrote some of the greatest songs in the rocket history I don't you know I'll say yes we did you know brag about that any day and I miss those guys I don't want to be back in that band because I think there's too much luggage and at my age now it's like yeah why you know I'm I do this for other reasons you got a couple hundred million bucks and you're in a good mood so you don't need to go do that but it ain't just money so that I was broke I would still rather be in the band I'm in and I'm not joking the circle the circle totally we love each other we're having so much fun and everybody's just as good you know nowadays you know when we were our heyday and ran here and that was a hard man to touch but you know everybody's not in their heyday anymore you know yeah and so the when when when they called you on Father's Day that's literally the last conversation with Eddie Van Halen no we had to reunion later that's 95 but since then never not one conversation I wish to have a happy birthday about two years ago on his Instagram and I think his wife does his Instagram and and it got back and said oh hey hope you're doing well and you know thank you or something like that that's good but I'll say this again and it'll it'll be one of those things that gets all over the place but I reached out to Al I think I bought a house in Dana Point down in Southern California you know where where the reunion happened I was staying in Laguna Beach and a hotel and Alex called me and said hey man what are you doing on ice and I said hey I'm Laguna Beach man come on down he came down we spent the whole day the reunion happened so I said hey I just by the house right close to where you know I saw you last time al sent him an email and a text and a voicemail and said I want to invite you and your wife and Eddie to come on down I will cook lunch for you take a walk on the beach no agenda I do not want to put the band back together it's not what I'm thinking I want to just catch up with old times be friends again and I and I didn't get a response so I thought that was lame yeah whatever yeah but I I care see I really care to be friends and Al's normal yo ya house out straight as an arrow but hits it's Eddie's brother man come on yeah that's one thing those guys would be fighting we're talking about Alex man Alex run here the drug for calories so there are people isn't this going okay Alex and Eddie Van Halen my brother's a drummer and a guitar player folks let anyway that so here but they they would be fist fighting and you'd go to break them up and and and you'd get angry with one of them you know cuz he's trying to get away so you hate you [ __ ] and and his [ __ ] brother jump on your back and stop [ __ ] dude who's just finally yeah a man don't [ __ ] don't be talking to my brother that way I'm just trying to break you [ __ ] off they're really tight it's beautiful I wish to God I had a brother in my band you know like that that's what's know this it seems and this is me just you know being way way way far removed from this but but the way that they treated Michael Anthony is it just seems something something's not right about that that wasn't right and that's all there is to cuz Eddie is not a bad guy he's a sweetest when a Swedish people have ever met but he was really gone he went through a really dark time I'm telling you right now dark dark dark and the mattress is up on the it was directly sound like mattresses on the windows court like yeah like I got you see in movies at the count count and Alex they they just you know they wouldn't have done that Eddie want to play with his son he wouldn't let his son working and I don't blame him hey you know I got my son on tour my son opens for my band you know and that's what you do you you don't fire you're the best bass player background singer in the world and and bring your your son in you know that's that's hard on your son it's not fair for your son I don't think anyway yeah but Michael Anthony's pretty normal dude oh I completely he's like me we have a little drink in the evening we get going yeah I'm this is yet another thing we have in common [Laughter] I play got a lot of golf and so my buddies you know say we tee off at 12:30 or 1:00 and you know that you get done about 5:00 so that to me that's sort of when you can start to have a drink it's like five or six o'clock yeah exactly yeah yeah these guys most these guys a drink the whole time like number one tea that if that cart girl rolls up you know double vodka soda Bubba but I my damn it's 12:30 and so I joke with them they're like plants have a drink and I go I don't day drink I know yeah before we walked in here you were standing out there and you were like there's two things I don't do I can't smoke pot and I don't drink during the day that's exactly my story we can be friends there are times that I try both of those things and it never ends well you get if I get buzzed up in the daytime and I gotta take a nap and once I take a nap I'm done I wake up at 6 o'clock going off [ __ ] well I just pissed a day away you know the only time I drink in a day is once in a while when you're in a place like Italy you know where you go to lunch at 3 o'clock and you eat till 7 and you know it's ends up being dinner in a way but you know a big lunch place like Italy or Spain then I don't mind having a glass of wine with a beautiful meal but I don't eat big meals in the day or nothing I I like I like a big meal at night when I'm done shut the phone up that right pull out the bottle of wine are going I love to cook I like to cook and sit down eat a great meal and have some drinks and have sex to me that's the ultimate life you don't understand I mean come on go to bed the phone I don't know what they put in this water you're drinking this is some [ __ ] we ought to bottle up we'll just call it it maybe like a like a cologne it'd be called Sammy Hagar's optimism or some [ __ ] you know or mood mood sauce or something I mean it's unreal I think you you can anyone can figure out just what makes you happy it's a funniest things you know like people think so many things to make happy you know I own big houses and [ __ ] seventeen beautiful fancy cars and you know all that stuff but it's like they don't necessarily make it they make you happy temporary but but I have a garden in my yard it's gonna sound crazy but my mother was like this I learned from my mom we always have a garden I love growing tomatoes and onions and and all kinds of herbs and carrots and and my wife gets down there and plants garden every year and we work and I'll go time to eat you know I'm gonna run down the garden see what's available and I like picking my own vegetables and going up and go man I come up my shirts like this I got my tomatoes and my shirt a couple onions on top some fresh basil and some thyme or something and you know cards got the chicken up they're getting ready to go and got the grill going or the oven going and man I'm just like going this is so [ __ ] cool I go you're going my wine cellar it's got 14,000 bottles of wine going back to the got the [ __ ] you know and I'll say I feel like having this Vega Sicilia pull this thing I've started getting excited you know and and I get I love it I mean it makes me so damn happy the phone rings I go you want me to get it it's your manager I think it's something really important I'm gonna know so I just am I'm picturing them at the juxtaposition of the tent below the stage during Eddie's solo well that's you walking up with your shirt foolish strawberries that's quite that's yeah those things make you happy they're natural and they're good for in you that feels good I'd rather pull pie pick my own fresh tomatoes and go buy them in and store any day now I'm not big on killing animals otherwise I'd be the same way about that but I can't kill an animal just hurt so you go to the store they've done it before you get that that part I'm okay with yeah hey did you see the dirt this Molly crews is it cinematic it feels like a documentary but it's this is for the listener I'm explaining maybe seeing but did you see it on Netflix well I tried to watch it but the problem was is that my wife and I went up says she and somebody just sent me an email saying hey you're in that in Motley Crue's movie they got a scene with you and they're on TV and blah blah blah and I said okay so let's watch anything so we go up there and my daughter's coming home about 20 minutes she's 18 she just turned 18 last week and and so we start watching it and I'm going first five minutes man I'm going shut this [ __ ] off man and Samantha just pulled up in the driveway and you know hey it's not soft porn it's it's porn man at the beginning anyway so I didn't get past that yeah yes yeah but I'll watch it but you're not David Lee Roth is in it so it's somebody the diamond himself well not him but if there's one there recreating some scene at this hotel they're all partying and he's doing blow I mean but I mean if that he's been apparently a lot of its truth I mean if that was the life dude I don't know how anybody survived that life and I guys say the 80s were awesome they were [ __ ] great I'm not getting hey thank God I'm not an addictive personality otherwise I'd be [ __ ] like most in guys I mean most of the guys just ruined their lives in the 80s you know they're dying it's 67 is 65 and all that and but man it was a [ __ ] good time I got to tell you I will never never dog the eighties damn know paired man all guys going around we could dress like [ __ ] women you know ribbons high-heeled shoes and tight [ __ ] silk pants and [ __ ] man come on man it was just anything goes yeah Andrea you could write the stupidest song and have a hit with it you know I mean it was like all them them sexual sexually incorrect incorrect [ __ ] Ben talk about your buddies with Tommy Lee's you've probably heard Tommy a great guy plenty of these stories but I mean it's all it's hard to believe that the anybody in a human being can be that crazy I think Motley Crue and a couple other bands should probably take it a little bit farther than most bands because they did yeah I remember Tommy the first time he came to Cabo for one of his birthdays October 5th or something Xander mine's a 13 so he came down celebrates birthday with me and he in Cabo way back then this was like 15 years ago he was you know still in my new crew and they were in therapy he rents a stretch limo in Cabo on a word effect they even got it cuz it was a such a thing back then and he he comes in he's got five or six chicks in the car he comes at a Cabo Wabo we he plays we eat tacos drink have a good time and next thing I know get the call Tommy's in jail Oh what the [ __ ] happened and he had these girls five or six strippers with it and they were getting naked hanging out of the roof of the car you know going down their titties flapping and the other day now the cops don't care about what you do down there but they say if they got a reason to arrest you and can extort you out of your money they're gonna [ __ ] do it so of course he got in trouble there it's like Tommy just used to get in trouble everywhere he went you know you get in a fight or something something would happen but he's interesting when you watch you should you should watch but he he's because they showed these kids growing up to sources a show glimpses of their home life when they were kids he was the mother his parents were normal they supported his music like they would come to the shows like he was a normal kid the other ones were [ __ ] up yeah he was totally normal and now he's party he's a great guy though he sees you know these like Eddie he's kind of troubled and and he just always seems to find throw it I just talked to his manager a couple weeks ago he manages someone else I was doing a rock or a road trip with and I said hey how's Tommy doing he said ah you know and I said what do I know what now he goes he goes I his his son punched him out and knocked his teeth out and I did read that and he said and so he's suing his son and I said and I said well what the [ __ ] you don't have to sue us and just time he's gonna take him out of the will you know and he goes what will tommy rolls pretty crazy I guess but he's such a nice guy but he just trouble finds him you know man yeah motley crue I think they might have been one of the but they took at the maybe the farthest van Halen before me I think we're pretty out there I came in I'm kind of a I I have brakes on my car you know I mean I don't go I don't pull all-nighters I got to sing I was always concerned about my voice and I don't like to do blow all night I like to do a couple [ __ ] big hard lines and then grab a chick and get the [ __ ] out of there before it's too late when you get to the other side of that drug that ain't no fun that's the back side of [ __ ] blow I can tell anybody on the planet if you don't already know it is the worst you you hate yourself more than anybody in the world when just that [ __ ] Sun comes up you're trying to pull the curtains and anyway that's I don't I hate that feeling but I like anybody else I mean you know if I can do a bump and you're going around I feel pretty good right now you know so so you know the record we've never had a podcast like this nobody's never talked about doing bumps nobody's ever said the word titties he's never said the word blow - I don't believe that you're probably right maybe then maybe the visuals are a little stronger than normal I love having a good time but I I mean I'm not I'm not totally guy that doesn't do any I still do you know crazy [ __ ] you know not crazy it's tough to get in trouble with but I mean you know you're the red rocker you got to have fun you know I mean I'm still healthy enough to pull about anything off so I'm just go ahead and do everything but I don't cheat on my wife and that's no [ __ ] I don't cheat on my wife when I found this I've seen your wife exactly smart I hate to do it to see you right now yeah I see her I'm not I go it's Paul Newman said why you know why eat hamburger when you guys stay at home I really feel that way you know I mean and say oh if I didn't have a great sexual relationship with my wife I'd probably going out for you know but it's I think it's really important for any relationship set you know a lot of people our dog are down on sex way and sex is a great great thing it's one of the gifts of God and say what what more pleasure can you have on this planet you know and like to have a good sexual relationship you'll have a good marriage right if you don't have a good sexual you separate bedrooms on [ __ ] dude somebody's gonna be [ __ ] somebody else and that all there is to it because your ships passing in the night yes you know it's I'm a big fan of a good sexual relationship I mean ain't happening in the bedroom to me and ain't happening so if it's happening in bedroom and everything's good I'm pretty happy what about these improv this is true or not I heard from a business partner good friend of mine that you and Bob we were pretty good buddies he lives right down Street right down the street and you guys show up at this place called the suite why we played these impromptu gigs yeah heard about this yeah in Mill Valley yeah oh yeah Bob Bob's the coolest guy I can I'll tell you right now he makes me seem like a pretentious [ __ ] [ __ ] uppity rock star he's so down there it's like hey Bob what are you doing nothing what you want to want to go downtown yep okay what time he's a little late once in a while but other than that Bob no you know everybody thinks Grateful Dead you know like Bob's on a big weed head either see that's where him and I are in common everybody smoking dope around me and we look at Jim I don't take it now and I can't sing you can't sing behind weed you can't do it I can't do anything so he's and it's sweets too powerful nowadays so but Bob he's we have a couple drinks you know and and have a good time and we help play music with anybody anytime anyplace anywhere and so will I I don't have to know the song [ __ ] that what keys in it and I'll chime in and he does the same thing I love the guy he's probably one of the most loyal friends you know him and got and Toby Keith in two different characters but so thank we've all been together on stage in Kabul but those are two guys that if I call him up and say hey I need you to do something hey can you help me out can you do this it can do that they say yep you don't have to call them back it's done and and just two guys with their word handshake done yeah I'll be there you know call Toby up the second time what do you call me about I said well I just want to make sure gonna be I told you I was gonna be there okay all right sorry man don't be calling me up yeah like maybe I was gonna [ __ ] flake out I hate that way you know I like guys like old-timers I kabobs an old-timer he's a throwback wursten told me Bob's probably out of the 1800s and you know he was 1700 he's he should live in a log cabin and be chopping wood that guy man trapping beaver nobody's ever said trapping beaver Bob used to I heard the story from his guys who he's had loyal forever you know Grateful Dead guys that Bob used in his heyday you know he was the handsome guy in the dead and he had to go backstage likewise talk about my tents he'd go backstage and go hit sit down a chair get a bunch of girls in there he'd drop his Georgia say may the best one win come on let's make a chump out of me man that's that's the way you do it Bob we were talking about when we cuz you know all the hair bands and we were talking with the crew in a linen you know the lists of rat poison and this is all this Dokken Skid Row like this is what I grew up Twisted Sisters quiet wry grew up bliss that was what that was my jam and and then all of a sudden came crunch right so instead of wearing girls pants and in big hair and everything these guys wearing like flannels and and cut-up jeans and coming from Seattle and you were telling the story about which I thought was brilliant bringing bringing out some chains on the road with with Van Halen but I always ask people what I always think about this cuz I'll never forget where I was the first time I heard Nirvana on the radio with you smells like teen spirit and I was like holy [ __ ] that's different yeah like that was I still get chills I was like I just got a little I was in San Francisco I guess I'm telling you when it was on he was on an FM radio it was way before satellite radio and wasn't you know he was on the radio and I was like what what what just happened like it was yeah I mean and it is what's so crazy is it wasn't that different but it didn't have the party and they just they took the you know hard edge music cuz you know van Halen boys on there that was hard edge they just said it was party in there and it was pretentious and it had a little sense of humor to it they took all that out and it just became dark you know a little bit darker rock or like these guys meaning this [ __ ] you know I mean like there's something deeper than just singing about girls and stuff in yeah it affected me the same way too and it freaked me out you know I think that's probably what you saw me say it it freaked all of us out like Nancy Wilson I I interviewed her and Jerry Cantrell at the same time I'm a rock or a road trip first season and because I wanted to because she was from my generation but she grew up with then in the same hotel ISM as grunge came out as right so Hart probably was really gone because they were [ __ ] really hair band II you know them girls man they took it to naught and a hundred and I the wonder how she felt about so I want to interview them together and Jerry's a dear friend and yeah she said the same thing as I said she said yeah I was scared to death of those guys man she said I'd get invited to a party not think I'm not gonna go you know like you know what are they good those guys are weird that's the way I was with punk rock - man when punk rock came out I loved it I swear I loved the Sex Pistols I that was just said badass [ __ ] it was this Garage Band they took him out of the garage too soon that's something with punk rock it got famous before it it got you know good enough to really make records you know the lot of those bands weren't very good you know but it's it freaked me out man I went to England in that punks you knows [ __ ] thought I was gonna go shopping down on King's row or whatever it was where it used to be the rock and roll thing and before I knew that punk was happening I was over there doing a record in 76 77 77 a day and I'm walking down the street and I'm looking these [ __ ] Mohawks and studs and these guys spitting [ __ ] each other and [ __ ] I was going holy [ __ ] I was scared man I was like walking through that you know some [ __ ] gang neighborhood Montana yeah exactly I'm glad I'm outnumbered though man I'm like you know I'm looking for some rocky road close they didn't have that [ __ ] anymore yeah it was a trip well you know that's just suede is everybody you know look athletes you always see the young guy come up underneath you and you go I don't know if I want to you know mess with that [ __ ] well yeah I mean it was like wildfire I mean they they just they just want to eat you alive like you you you are that you are that what they want right if you're the rich famous guy now if you're the big star those guys coming up they want they want to [ __ ] kick your jam with Dave Grohl oh yeah that guy who stood for cure with me oh okay great yeah yeah he's he's he's a freak the guy complete drums guitar he writes he sings piano yeah he's really a talented guy hey I always called do girls everybody's friend Dave's everybody's Jenny I mean if I could Paul McCartney loves Dave Grohl you know I mean everybody knows they play he's he's like he's he's the life of the party crack jokes and say bad words and music is the real deal - he comes he comes - acoustic for a Cure gets off the plane brings a couple of his band members up there same thing I just asked him to do it yeah we'll be there Bing and he just came out of the studio had a brand new song gets up on stage and playing place a brand new song acoustically that when I heard it on the thing but it's the sky's a neighborhood that song off his last album it's heavier in [ __ ] I'm going he's up there to couch the guitar screaming like that I'm go man I'm a screamer he just had no fear yeah you know and a brand new song he's like he's looking at his lyrics and he's playing it and and I'm just really impressed with his fearlessness you know that's that's the way to play music yeah and it's it's a way to go into a sport activity and any kind of a competition fearless if you're not fearless you might get your ass kicked you know you know those ghosts fearless guys you know it's like I'm here I was I was at when I talked about fear and fearless or being fearless I always try to you know make the separation I'm fearless and reckless oh yeah not reckless listen but they can be mistaken the two so yeah living a fearless life versus you know should never be mistaken or or trend towards living the reckless life and so that's a good philosophy yeah cuz you could interpret it that way so fearless you could be reckless of course Yeah right but being fearless saying I'm okay I'll try it you know I'll do that it's like it's like you know I want to grow I don't want to be afraid I want to be as good as I can be all those things it's you know every time I perform acoustically yeah I'm not a good acoustic artist and every time I do I come off the stage or I come out of the situation and I'm going oh damn you know I wish I'd have just had a little more confidence because I wasn't as good as I can be you know what I mean it's your son performs acoustic yeah so he's got it he's got it he's nothing like me he's a whole different animal man he's mic - grunts - it's me he's a trip I want to make sure the listener especially if they're probably have a lot of listeners in the Bay Area's so if you guys are in San Francisco yeah May 15th so go to acoustic it's done it's sold it's sold out for it for 40 seconds you know what like I said you guys come on they may want go in 2020 yeah acoustic four and that in four is the is the number for acoustic number for a Cure dot-com so don't try to go this year now it always sells everything other fans are there supportive of it and it you got to charge more for the tickets but I'm not trying to make money saying we only need more to them yeah yeah maybe no I don't think so well hey listen Lance leave me alone listen I get you're gonna you're gonna [ __ ] my losing my pass my process up here I got it I got a system I can't but bust out of it I guess the crazy thing about the crucial for the Cure is that you see in the lineups that we have in one little place like that and you see them out of their element everyone does an acoustic thing by themselves three songs four songs mostly 15 to 20 minutes maximum because you know can't go on all night and it's all collaborations like you know when when I was up there singing with Joe Satriani we're doing this thing when you and Dave Grohl's there for instance there's always a little small drum set and it's all padded down with pillows inside so you hit it it's close it's about that loud and they got these little funny little light sticks Dave jumps down it comes running down he liked the song he wants to he just starts playing drums and that's what happens at acoustic here it's really cool I mean James Hetfield the first year and Billie Joe Armstrong did they did James wanted to turn the page the Bob Seger song and Billy Joel came to a village a village Oh Billy Joel came down and did I walk alone and they made a smash-up of it a mash-up and it was like James didn't want to do it he's go man you know at soundcheck Billy's coming down gonna I want to do it to James James going oh man you know and then they did it it was [ __ ] magic it's told the whole show because it was spontaneous number one and number two is badass so yeah yeah there's a lot of cool things happen there we saw Higgs and I saw Seger on his farewell tour trying mountain six weeks ago I love Bob Seger man I tell ya every song core first of all I've never been we were like the nosebleed of the nosebleeds we were last last minute but you just had to go check that box just like yeah this summer we saw are not the summer but probably three or four months ago we saw Elton John on his you know farewell tour when the greatest singer songwriters of all time three hours this guy's 70 something years old which by the way I mean let's just you know I sent you that funny text with you and you know you and Clinton did that's pretty fun but you don't want to be President you look at all the 70 year olds I mean you talk about bands like Nirvana and the you know that that 27 club you know but we also have like the 70 club so if you've got guys like you and and Mick Jagger and and and Elton John John just same as you and that show was amazing but when things pounds of [ __ ] out the piano is seeing his voice is exactly the same played three hours but when he gets up to walk around and kind of five the crowd a little better order walk off he he looks like he walks on he's 90 or even more I mean it's I'm like hey listen I'm waiting I'm sitting there going I bless myself every morning go thank you God you know for my blessings man but you know I I have a friend is ten years older me a dear a mentor and he's been my mentor since I was thirty and this man had always tells you what the next decade is gonna be Lenny no and he told me 70s going well you know everything starts changing and and he said you got to become an elder you got to stop being this warrior Sammy you know he's this is he's like a Joseph camel kind of character very very deep cat and he's going man you just got to stop being that warrior and I said I don't know how like I don't feel like I have to stop he's gone will you will and I'm gonna okay ain't got my fingers crossed here you know I like being a warrior man I still like being competitive I still like being great I still want looking to get out there and then be better than I've ever been so I don't know I'm waiting I ain't no hurry as long as my dick words I don't want to be like Willie and you know I don't want to outlive my dick you know what I mean didn't Willie say that I don't know you said well yeah when he turned 75 in thinking he said well somebody asked him how he was I think Merle was still alive Admiral said how you doing Willie or somebody said well I think I finally outlived my dick no thanks you know what I probably had like 20 other questions but that is a perfect place to end it it sure as [ __ ] it's I can't wait for tomorrow night this energy this is contagious it's honor talking to you honestly man I'm I'm a big I'm a big fan of special people and your special guy what you've done in the world with your life and so brother you don't just wake up in the morning and go do that like I said yeah it's kind of like the way I feel about right forward forward never straight boom boom thank you [Music] you

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Length: 77min 37sec (4657 seconds)

Published: Mon May 06 2019