(upbeat disco music) - Hello? Do you realize your arm
is in the pavement, sir? This is a good-looking game. Wow, this is the lighting without RTX? You are not playing this
game with ray tracing on and DLSS disabled. It's finally actually coming out, guys. We've got it, "Cyberpunk 2077," and, of course, we've got the answer to the question you guys all want to know. How does it look running
on the absolute maximum, balls to the wall hardware at 4K, or, for extra credit, at 8K on the world's best TV,
the LG Z10 88-inch OLED. Let's find out, shall
we, ladies and gentlemen? And this video is brought
to you by Origin PC, who sent over the hardware that we're gonna be using
for our experience today. Origin PC, ladies and gentlemen. They don't do everything
necessarily right, but boy, do they ever have
the best shipping materials, 'cause this thing is gonna frickin' work no matter what I do to it. Here we go, boys. (Linus grunts) (David shouts) Look, I'm in a hurry,
we got a game to play. (Linus claps) Let's go. (soft electronic music) (box clinks) (lively electronic music) You wouldn't know it from what I did to the packing materials. Don't worry, though,
Origin's packing materials (clicks tongue) top notch, but this is a very special PC. It's in a Corsair 4000D, but this is what they're
calling a Resto-Mod version. So, they've done a custom graphic for it that sort of hearkens
back to a simpler time, back when new "Duck Tales"
episodes were still airing, and the front of computers looked a little something like this. You like that compact
disc logo right there? Get that floppy drive, ee. And, for the color, they've
gone with a classic beige because those were the
days when, you know, it was less about flash and more about, well, they weren't fast either, so it was about something. Anyway, in true Resto-Mod style, naturally, even though they've
gone after the aesthetic of an older PC, the insides of this thing are absolutely packed to the gills with the latest gaming hardware. Yes, my friends, it is liquid-cooled, it is packing an RTX 3080. It's got a 4K capture card,
and a 5950X 16-core processor, so, no matter how hungry
"Cyberpunk 2077" is, we are going to be absolutely
chewing through it. One minor inconvenience is that, because I did wanna run it at 8K as well, I might have to figure out how to get an RTX 3090
in here at some point. Let's fire it up. Oh, wow. That is very RGB, which is definitely different when you consider the retro theme. I guess that's kinda the
point, though, right? Oh, man, yeah, we're really not hiding what's actually under
the hood of the engine in this particular Resto-Mod, eh? So, they're only making 50 of these, and once they're gone, they are gone. Actually, one more thing,
we need to fire this up, get the launcher installed, and... (Linus laughs) Okay, that's cute. We got the RealPlayer, RealPlayer icon, got the network neighborhood up in here. All right, that's adorable. Thank you, Origin PC. That's it, game's downloading. All I gotta do now is catch some Zs on my CPU pillow, lttstore.com. See you guys in a bit. (clock ticks) - Wake up, samurai,
we've got a game to play. - Sorry. (Linus clears throat) - [David] Film the video, dude. - In all seriousness, though, guys, it is, I forgot to put on my watch, I am so out of it. It's 5:00 in the morning. Colton, Jono, and David
got our early access copy of the game all sorted out this morning, and we are ready to play "Cyberpunk 2077." It's running at 380 frames per second in the menu, so let's
see how the game runs. Do you guys wanna go straight to high, or should we start at, like, medium? - [David] Medium. - Okay, we'll start at medium. Now, we are aware that there could be some performance irregularities
in our version of the game. This is the early access beta DRM-protected version of the game. We didn't get any clarification as to what exactly DRM-protected means. We turned on ShadowPlay recording. It's recording the game. I wanna play this game HDR. We're gonna play on, like,
the best TV in the market. We're gonna play with some
HDR, ladies and gentlemen. What are we running at? So, one thing we changed, field of view, we changed it to 90 by default. It's, like, 75 or something. Let's change it to 90. Medium, yeah, yeah,
lens flair, motion blur. I changed that to off by default. I think it was on low. Medium, there we go. Okay, medium preset. Wow, medium has a lotta, like, low stuff, and ray tracing's off on
medium, for sure styles. So just click Continue? Where's it gonna drop me? You guys... - [David] Continue, bro. - [Lucas] Continue. Wow, this is the lighting without RTX? That's kinda impressive already, right outta the gate. What kinda quality are we looking at for these passersby? Well, dang. This looks pretty darn
good for medium, don't it? (David laughs) I mean, I've seen some speculation that CD Projekt Red is, like,
delaying the console release by a few hours because
they're, like, worried it's not gonna look good or whatever. Based on how good this is running on, like, very, very nice-looking, even if they're medium settings, I am less worried. This is like a locked 60 fps, pretty much. I might be a little more
nervous than I was before, 'cause this is medium settings on an RTX 3080. - [David] But data 4K. - [Lucas] All right, that's fair. Do you guys wanna try out DLSS first? - [David] Yeah. - [Lucas] Look at this shiny shirt. - [David] Wow. (man cheers) - How stylish is this guy? Hold on, I wanna talk to (mumbles) So this is not benchmarking. I just wanna know how it
runs with DLSS, that's all. So, quality. So, this should render
internally at 1440p, if I recall correctly. Okay, well, that was a quick and easy 30% performance
gain, ish, approximately. I mean, that's, man. DLSS is sweet. That is noticeably smoother in terms of the actual
gameplay experience. This is a good-looking game. Honestly, there's places
where I can kinda tell. Like, Tom's Diner, the sign there. Actually, I can't tell
if that's just, like, kind of like a heat distortion effect. Oh my god, I think the reason it's ripply is just because of,
like, the heat distortion of the HVAC of the diner. Like, that's pretty cool. If we didn't get a 30% fps improvement, I would think DLSS is
not freaking working, 'cause we dropped to 53 here, which is not benchmarking, just talking about the experience. Here's a difference that I can see, that I'm expecting high details to kind of smooth out for me. Like, look how bad this
guy on the stairs looks. Those are some, like,
2005 textures right there, but the world is so populous. I understand why they have to do that. I think that's something that's gonna push the card higher as we push detail levels up. So, what changes from medium to high? We get film grain, low motion blur, depth of field, lens flair. What else changes here? - [David] Improved. - Shadow mesh quality,
so let's have a look. Screens-based reflections. I wanna see what our draw
distance is looking like. Level of detail goes to high. I'm expecting that to change things like the quality of the crowd around me. Local shadow, probably,
so shadows are something that mostly stays at medium. I mean, given how good the lighting looked even at medium, bearing in mind, again, that this is the early access DRM version, whatever that means. We changed to high. That cost us, mm, about 20,
25% of our performance there at, like, 43, 45 fps. Yeah, that is markedly better. You can tell that they're expending a lot of performance improving
the quality of the crowd. Look at this. This is without real time ray tracing. Like, look at the quality
of these reflections. - [David] Look at that floor. - And it's not, like, in, like, a "Need for Speed: Underground," like, the whole world
is shiny kind of way. Like, this is actually reasonable. Okay, now, can DLSS save this? Can we play on high? I'm sticking with quality, so there's a lesser
performance improvement, but we expect it to look very similar to native rendering with
a quality DLSS setting. Look how much better the crowd looks, and to me, like, in a game like this, that is so much of the atmosphere, and so much of the immersion that, when I see people's,
like, clothing texture quality dynamically changing as
they're walking towards me on even, like, a small street like this, it's pretty jarring, whereas, this is not nearly as noticeable. Like, you can see here, let's watch this guy with
the purple shiny pants there. That's the flip over point, right there. That's where the asset quality changed. That's pretty good. By the time someone's that far away, like, it's almost unnatural for them to look that sharp anyway. You could guarantee they spent a ton of time tuning that, hey? - [David] Yeah. - Like, here, this lady with the backpack. Right there. You could see it. And we're still, like, even
in a crowded area like this, we're still running above 60 fps. I mean, of course, it's RTX 3080. Oh, they have different
settings for ray tracing. So, okay, what does ultra look like? Okay, ultra cranks everything
except ray tracing, and then, if we set it
to ray tracing medium, oh, it keeps everything on ultra, and then just sets ray tracing to medium. I would've thought it would compensate by turning down some other things and turning up ray tracing. I think a lot of people are gonna turn on that ray tracing medium preset, thinking it means medium
graphical fidelity, but ray tracing on, and
that is not what that is. Okay, this is gonna... No, let's not. This is gonna be the processor wrecker. Okay, are people fighting? Is that gunfire? - [David] It's like a motorcycle. - Are you sure? - [David] Oh. - [Man] What? (man laughs) (beep) What? - Sir? - [Man] Oh my god. - Sir? - [Man] Oh my god. - Sir, are you okay? Sir? Now, you know, I'm really
interested in this can, because I actually think that, as it was rolling around
on the red surface, that was part of why it kinda seemed like we couldn't see it, and I do wonder if ray tracing is going to make that lighting
a little bit more realistic. Do you see how the bottom
of the can is just, yeah. So, okay, hold on. Before that can stops rolling, I wanna turn ray tracing on and see what happens. - [David] What? - Okay, so it's still the same behavior, which is interesting. So that means either ray traced lighting in this game is not that expensive, or it means that, whatever it's doing when it's not ray tracing
is really expensive, and when I say expensive, I mean in terms of GPU
compute requirements. Okay, hold on, I don't wanna
experience that too much yet. I wanna focus on looking at ultra. Oh, man, now I'm getting distracted, 'cause this is fascinating. Our frame rate went down. Ray tracing may be more effective than whatever other method
of global illumination they are using for this... (keyboard clicks) Well, here, we can easily flip between it. I love how quickly this game allows you to tune your settings. I mean. (keyboard clicks) That is a big game changer in terms of the actual experience of, like, getting the game locked in. Like, getting jumped into the game, the fact that you're not going out, and restarting it constantly, and, like, okay, is it running okay now? Wow, yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's more, I'm sure it's, like,
better, but do you see it? - [David] No, I can't
point out what it is. - If we put them side by side, I'm sure we could be, oh, yeah, mm, yes, I can tell from the pixels, but high looks really good. There you go. That's the Linus Tech Tips recommendation. If you've got the horses, high with quality DLSS is, like, what you wanna run at if
you're running on RTX 3080, or probably, realistically,
a 3070 at that point. Okay, well, that's what I
wanna figure out next, is, okay, now, what happens
if we start playing around with ray tracing? That's it, that's the money right there. Game like this, that's more
environment, story-driven, 60, 80 fps, that is lots. Ray tracing (mumbles) there,
there, there, there, okay. I don't think our ray tracing
setting was working before. This is very different. Okay, I don't think this is right. - [David] No, it wouldn't be this bad. - Okay, just a second here. Okay, let's just go to ultra again, and see what happens. Okay, there we go. All right, now, Settings, ray tracing, medium. Wait, so is that what happened? Is, we didn't realize that
DLSS was turning on before? Or did it just, like,
glitch out hard there. I think we didn't realize. - [David] Oh, wow. - So, you, I mean, unless something dramatic changes between now and, I don't
know what time it is, but, like, 10 hours from now, you are not playing this game with ray tracing on and DLSS disabled. That is not happening. Wow, okay. Ray tracing, medium. Now, what if I set it to
quality instead of auto? Oh, wow. So, DLSS is working real hard when you've got ray tracing on. Like, you are rendering
at probably 1080p at best. Oh, I see. And you know what? Hold on a second. So, look at just the hood of the car as we rotate around it. So you see a little bit
of noise in it, right? That's a characteristic of upscaling that you just, you
can't really get around. You see just, like, a little bit of noise in the rear hood, or trunk, whatever you wanna call it, the boot. 'Kay, now, let's go
ahead and change to auto, and then, I expect that
you're gonna see that get quite a bit worse. Yep, there it is. You see all that noise? It's still, okay, when you're
not focused on an object, it's not bad, but it's
way more noticeable. You can see it in that railing. Like, you can kinda see it. It's like there's, like, a
noise filter over everything, and that's not the film grain effect. It's different. It's more noticeable in areas where there's more light, which is, again, normal when
it comes to image noise. Yeah, it's noticeable. I mean, obviously, we
didn't notice it before when we were looking at that
can rolling down the street. Oh, that explains why the
performance improved too, David. - [David] Yeah, that does man sense. - So, let's figure out, so, we're running around
50, 55 fps right now, so let's go ahead and not set it to auto. So, I'm willing to be we're running on performance or ultra
performance right now. Performance, yeah. Mm, you know what, I'm not sure. I think it might still be 1080, but just with more approximations. - [David] Oh, I see. - High, ultra performance. That is very noticeable. - [David] The road. - Yeah, the road looks
absolutely disgusting at the edges of the frame, so
this, you're probably right, this probably is, like, 720p upscaled, or, like, maybe it's rendering
parts of the scene at higher. Ah, yeah, no, the car
looks really nasty too. Just, everything looks pretty nasty, especially towards the edges of the frame. Yeah, that's nasty-tastic. The good news is that leaving it on auto is probably just kind of your best bet. Okay, here's some really
interesting shadows. Let's flip it back to quality. Let's flip it back to high. Do have to change the DLS, no, all right. Wait, so that didn't even change? Okay, yeah. Okay, all right, you can really see, in the shadows of the stairs, like, those look like garbage town compared to the ray traced shadows. Okay, yeah, I can see it for sure. Look at that. Okay. Man, which one would you play on though? Look at this green car on the side. Do you see the green car right there? Okay, let's flip back to high. (Lucas sighs) Man, what's more important to you, sharpness or, I mean, those
shadows really do look like just a smudgy, blurry
mess compared to that. Okay, part of my problem too, with RTX, is, like, do you see how, it kinda felt like
there was too much bloom as I was coming out of that tunnel. Like, I get it, it's supposed
to kind of mimic the effect of stepping out into a bright area, but it doesn't, 'cause it's not, when I, like, drive through a tunnel, my eyes do not adjust to it, you know? This works like aperture on a camera, not like my eyes, 'cause I'm in my car, like,
looking ahead to the road. I'm not, like, staring at the dark wall of the inside of the tunnel for hours on end, and that's something that
I kind of struggle with. I find a little bit immersion-breaking about most RTX implementations
that I've seen. See, that actually looks
more realistic to me. Oh, no, it doesn't. That's really awful too. But this area closer to us is fine. So, you see that? Get outta my way. They've done a good job, if nothing else, of mimicking the way that,
like, real time ray tracing, global illumination works with their regular non-ray-traced
global illumination. The quality is clearly lower in cases like those stairs, but I'd say they're both good, and this one comes down
to personal preference. Do you want that, like, incredible
fidelity in the shadows, or do you want that incredible
fidelity in the game world? Something we haven't talked about much is how the lower fidelity the
original graphical asset is, the worse its going to look with deep learning super sampling, right? Garbage in, garbage out, so you look at the road right
next to the car, not bad. You look at the car itself, okay, yeah, you've got that kind of, that grainy effect on it. Not bad though. But look at that road
way out in front of us, through the tunnel. It's not good. Whereas, if we flip back to high, yeah, big difference. Okay, wait, I wanna see this. I wanna see this ray traced. Look at all the candles and stuff. (Lucas laughs) No, maybe ray tracing's the answer, David. - [David] Oh, those switch. - Look at the... Look at just the immersiveness
of this environment with all these different colors of light. Like, these candles. Does that not look frickin' incredible? - [David] So good. - Oh, I don't know. What's the right answer? Wow. And then, okay, we're gonna go back. We could go all the way to
ultra without ray tracing, and it just, it looks fake, it looks flat, it looks like a video game
again, and it's subtle, like, but it's really real. Okay, I wanna see ultra now. You know, the difference between medium and ultra is, like... - [David] It's just the reflections. - Yeah, it's really not
that noticeable to me, 'cause the lighting is what
really gives the scene depth. Environments like this
with ray tracing on. - [David] So good. - Really does. Like, just the way his clothing moves when his head moves, like, (groans) Did you see his arm when
he reached up, David? - [David] Yeah. - I am sitting so close to this. That's another thing to consider, guys, is, we are quite literally
blown up right now. Like, if I'm on a monitor, if I'm on a monitor, I'm
at, like, this distance, and that difference in sharpness, not that noticeable from here. Okay, you ready for 8K then? - [David] Yeah. - All right, this was good enough? Like, dark scene, we've... - [David] Yeah.
- Okay, yeah, I think so too. Man. All right, okay. RTX 3090 time. Or, I don't know, do you
wanna try 8K with the 3080? All right. We just had to change over to 8K mode on our HDMI port. Wow. That is really broken. I can't tell what it
looks like is changing in that horizontal divide. Both of them look right, but different. Do you know what I mean? - [David] Yeah. - The top half of the
screen is missing particles, and I can't tell if, like,
chromatic aberration, no, yeah, chromatic aberration
goes through the barrier. Okay, okay, well, let's just try changing some graphical
settings and see... Oh, this is very annoying. 'Kay, so, if we go to 4K, we can figure out what we're running at. So, what did we decide? Ray tracing medium was our target, David? So, let's do that, then we'll go to 8K. Wow. This does not look great. (Lucas chuckles) When your graphics card
is at the very limit of what it can handle, turning on something like ShadowPlay can impact performance very significantly, even if it doesn't under
normal circumstances. So, I'm-a turn that back off. Okay, back to the human eye. The thing about the
resolution of the human eye is that resolution doesn't mean how many dots per a given area. That's how we define
resolution in terms of screens. The resolution of the human eye is the detail it can resolve, resolution, and objects in motion have sort of different
resolution characteristics than static objects. So, if we're looking at this
at 15 fps, 8K or whatever, and we just look at some high res assets on a static wall or something like that, here, let's go back in here, okay? That looks flipping awesome, but the problem is that, as
soon as anything's in motion, the way that our eye
perceives the resolution of the image, the detail
of the image, is very poor, so you need a combination
of high frame rate and high detail, and at 8K, this just, well, I mean, come on, I don't think I need to tell you guys, this ain't cutting it. Like, that looks horrible, right? There's no resolution left anymore when the frame rate is so low. Rock on, we're going RTX 3090, baby. So, we're gonna start
with 4K, ray trace medium, and, as expected, that's
not, like, night and day, but I would also say that that is noticeably smoother. This is ray trace medium. Okay, given that the performance
is not markedly better, I don't have a lot of hope for this, but, I mean, you guys, you
guys wanna see it, right? Okay. Well, you know what, to
Nvidia and the game's credit, 24 fps is a lot better than 15 fps in terms of raw percentage. I wouldn't say that it's
a great gaming experience, but it's a lot better. So this is 8K balanced. 20 fps. Yeah. All right, here's the thing then, it comes down to your goal. The only reason to turn it to 8K is if you want the ultimate
in image crispness, in sharpness, and if
that's what you're after, we already determined that
turning on ray tracing, well, you're already making compromises to the sharpness at 4K, let alone at 8K in order to
maintain a playable frame rate, so, clearly, this is kind of
like a pointless scenario. 8K with ray tracing, which requires DLSS, which reduces the sharpness, we've, like, got settings that are working against each other. So, with that in mind, let's try it without ray tracing. DLSS is now off. Man, 8K continues to underwhelm me. Even if I don't move the camera around, and we don't have any tearing, or, like, really bad motion blur, like, this is 23 fps. This is cinematic frame rate right here, ladies and gentlemen. Like, it's not bad, it just doesn't look that much better, and a big part of that is,
the textures just aren't, they're not 8K because there's no point putting such gigantic
textures in the game. Like, this road looks like a
video game texture, you know? And you do lose some of that
resolution on the characters, which are one of the things that really stand out about the game to me as being so detailed, when you're running at
a frame rate like this. Like, you can't... Like, here, let's wait for someone to walk right in front of us, and I'll show you, you
can't make out, like, here, like, you can't make
out their face really at all. Like, you can't... Mm. Hey, I think your spray
can's broken there, bud. Is that the same guy? (Linus laughs) Well, that's a bit of a letdown. 8K, totally not worth it. You know what, though, we
are recording right now. Okay, let's stop the recording. That camera's rolling? Okay, here we go. Let's see if that helps a lot. There's the 3090 flexing its muscles. All that extra VRAM
means that, yeah, okay, the game still doesn't run perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but the difference between recording and not recording is only,
like, one to two fps now instead of absolutely tanking
it like it did on the 3080. I mean, that was only applicable at 8K, and I wouldn't run this game at 8K, but... Install the latest drivers. - [David] Oh my. - [Linus] You've gotta be kidding me. - [David] Yeah, they just
rolled out a driver just now. - [Linus] Like, just now? - [David] Yeah, we just got in the... - [Man] Let's see if
it makes a difference. - All right, sure, all right, let's find out, ladies and gentlemen. Running the Game Ready Driver now on the RTX 3090, and
we realized something. The quick presets do not
adjust texture quality. You can only adjust texture
quality in the main menu. So, I would assume we were running on medium texture quality before. That kind of explains why
vending machines, for example, were not changing their level of detail as we were flipping through the presets. Now, I don't see anything else in here that has appeared, now that
we're in the main menu. So, on the RTX 3090, we're
flipping over to high textures. I mean, it's got, like,
oodles of VRAM anyways, so I wouldn't expect it to
make much of a difference, but now, you guys know. Unfortunately, because of the DRM, I'm not gonna risk swapping the 3090 out and putting the 3080 back in. That's not happening. We're just gonna have to move forward with what we've got here. Anyway, the video's called
"Running at Max Settings," not comprehensive benchmarking
performance review, so this is gonna be that. Oh, yeah. Yep. That looks way better. If you've got the VRAM,
you are going to want to run it at high texture quality. Wow. So it's not everything, but
where it makes a difference, that is a big difference. Let's see how the RTX 3090 handles this. So, video, yeah, still
at 4K, still at 4K, guys. Preset, ray tracing medium, here we go. - [David] Gotta turn your motion blur off. - Mm. 67 fps in here. (David speaks indistinctly) Let's check. We might not even need it to be on that. Whether it's the Game Ready Driver or the RTX 3090 upgrade is
hard to say at this point, unfortunately, 'cause
everything's changing so fast right now, but 50 fps in here with quality DLSS, dang. 40 out on the street. So, I wouldn't say that
the Game Ready Driver probably changed the actual performance of the game that much. Looks more like, you know, it's tuned as opposed to, you suddenly go to 300 fps from, you know, 50 or whatever. Of course, we gotta try 8K. I said I was gonna run
the game on max settings, so, you ready? Ray tracing ultra, textures high. - [David] Turn motion blur off. - Yeah, you're probably
right, 'cause it sucks. All the haters are gonna be like. Okay, should we just turn DLSS off? - [David] Yes, off, I wanna see this. - All right, this is it,
ladies and gentlemen, the moment you waited for, 8K, everything absolutely maxed. Oh, right, I gotta actually
change the resolution. (Linus laughs) Well, it's gonna be a graphics
card generation or two before we're gonna get
playable frame rates in this game at 8K without any deep learning
super sampling tricks, but when that happens, it's gonna look real fly. Two things to disclaim here, guys. One, this is, of course, a
pre-release copy of the game, so it might not be indicative
of final performance, and number two, don't expect this to go from seven fps to
playable in seven hours, or however long it is
until the game comes out. I think seven fps is probably
enough for candlelight. It's really not. (Linus laughs) Like, that is gorgeous. All right, so, why don't we try and see if we can make 8K playable then? - [David] Okay. - So, DLSS, I mean, we're gonna have to go to, like, let's try performance. For 39, yeah, going to
performance seems to do it, but, as I said in a take that we might've ended up throwing away, this is not how I would run the game, because, if your goal is the
absolute sharpest resolution, well, I mean, that's the only reason to turn it to 8K, then you
don't wanna be running DLSS in performance mode, obviously, because it really hurts
the sharpness of the image, particularly around the edge. In general, it hurts the sharpness of the image in a big way. You'd be far better off just running at one
quarter of the pixel count, running at 4K, and enjoying
that additional sharpness, and not using DLSS in performance mode, being able to use it in quality mode. That would be a much better experience. You're kinda working against yourself. But, hey, we did it. And you know what you guys did? You made it all the way
to the end of this video so that I could tell you
again, thank you for watching, thanks to Origin PC for sponsoring it, and lttstore.com, you know? If your CPU's not fast
enough for "Cyberpunk," well, at least your
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