r/NuclearRevenge - It's A Good Day To DESTROY The HOA! - Reddit Stories 783

hello and welcome back to the kcc channel i'm rob and i hope you're having a wonderful day today today we're jumping into some brand new nuclear revenge our story today comes to us from also not the mama dinosaur's reference love it president of hoa wants me to join ends up wanting to leave the country let's jump right in so this story is about a property i own but rent out this may sound strange but i don't think i could afford to live there these days it's become somewhat exclusive i've used dollars here because it's what most people reading this will relate to this doesn't take place in the us and i've given an approximate dollar value for local currency this is going to be very long background a million years ago my property was part of a large farm i bought it about 30 years ago long after the farm was broken up but before there was any development near it the piece of land i got was near the back entrance that joined into a dirt road that ran past the more expensive plots were near the road in the front i originally bought a large chunk of the land intending to do some farming but that never happened about 20 years ago some of the owners got organized we'll call them the organized owners and had the area designated as a municipal suburb the municipality agreed to put in tarred roads water and electricity if a certain percentage of the properties were developed a construction company linked to the organized owners went around contacting the owners who had land but no buildings offering to build houses for us at a very very reasonable price contingent on them getting a certain minimum amount of people signing up while this was happening one of the organized owners approached me and offered to buy half of my property i agreed and the money i got for the sale which was about four times what i paid for the entire chunk of land 10 years prior combined with a small loan from the bank gave me what i needed to pay for a house to be built and it was a fairly large and nice house too i stayed in the house for a few years and my mom moved in with me i had decided to subdivide the property again and build her a house next to mine but unfortunately an undiagnosed tumor took her before the house could even be started well it was diagnosed but too late to do anything soon after she died we moved out of the house and started renting it out about a few weeks before we moved out the organized owners i'd sold the land to started talking about starting an hoa i wasn't interested and left soon after about two years later the neighbor organized owner contacted me there were two roads entering the area these days the original road that was near where the farmhouse had been and was entered from a fairly busy main road and my dirt back road entrance which was now a tart entrance from a wide but not very busy municipal road the hoa was trying to get the old farm road blocked off to improve security and decrease through traffic and wanted the road next to my property to be the main and only entrance to the hoa community and they were pressuring me to join i said no and i was adamant and eventually they accepted that but told me that they wanted to have a sign near the road welcoming people to the neighborhood and the only practical place to put it was on the edge of my property they also wanted to build a little guard hut and have a security guard permanently monitoring who went in and came out and they wanted to build this shed on my property we came to an agreement whereby they would mow the lawn and pay the equivalent of about 35 per month in exchange for the land they needed i was very happy with this arrangement since the property was fairly large and it didn't really cost them anything since they already had a full-time gardening service servicing the hoa this all happened over a decade ago they eventually got the other main road blocked off and the hoa is paying for a rent-a-cop to be permanently stationed close to my property as well as mowing my lawn and paying me enough money for takeaways for the family each month i'm occasionally contacted by members of the hoa to get me to sign up but i'm really not interested my property has been rented to the same tenant for all these years and everything there is going well for me until about three years ago when someone scared the crap out of my tenant's young daughter by making strange noises and shooting a pew pew close to her bedroom window three or four times over about a month this scared my tenant and i guess it scared the hoa because they and my tenant contacted me with a proposal i joined the hoa and they give me exclusions from the hoa rules including exclusions from paying the monthly fees and in addition they will build a wall around the entire hoa neighborhood including electric fencing and security cameras they told me they had wanted to do this for a while but were unwilling to build the wall on property that was not in the hoa i couldn't see the downside and so agreed the dishonest dealings it took a little over a year to build the wall and get everything completed which is quite fast and then a month to the day after everything was done my tenant got an hoa warning about his dogs barking he told the hoa that while the property was in the hoa it was exempt from the rules the hoa told him that they had cancelled the exemptions and that he had 30 days to comply he contacted me and i opened some mail i'd gotten from the hoa i'd ignored it since i was supposed to be exempt from the rules and fees man did i get a surprise they had retroactively cancelled the exemptions and were claiming one that i pay late fees going back over a year two that the easement agreement had been cancelled and that they were retroactively canceling it a year back because the hoa contract allowed them to use small unused portions of hoa members land for the common good for free three did i refund them the money they had paid for the easement over that period 4 that i owed them money for the garden service mowing the lawn and 5 that i would be fined for each infraction my tenant failed to remedy this started an expensive process involving lawyers and the court system that ended with a judge telling me that what the hoa had done was mostly legal they had the right to revoke the exemptions but that they had to give me 30 days notice as i was walking to my car the neighbor organized owner the one who had bought half my land so many years ago told me that i was stupid to have refused to join when the hoa started as i could have been a founding member whatever that means and that next time i should be sure to understand the documents i sign before signing them the malicious compliance neighbor organized owner was right i should have read the contract better also i was interested in what it meant to be a founding member spoiler nothing and so when i got home i grabbed the hoa contract i'd signed as well as all the other documentation they had provided me with and started reading i was determined to break every rule i could find a loophole to break i didn't get past the first page while the street address of the property is used to identify it for all practical purposes in the city records it has a unique property number that has to be used on legal records when my mom moved in i'd subdivided the remaining property but hadn't yet started building on it and when i gave the hoa the easement all those years ago it had been on the property i'd sliced off for my mom and when the hoa set up the contract they had simply used the property number from the easement the next afternoon the neighbor organized owner delivered and had me sign for two documents one telling me that my exceptions would expire in 30 days and one letting me know that the easement would no longer be required after 30 days i think he was being a bit malicious here because i lived about an hour away from the property and he drove out himself the revenge exactly 30 days to the hour after the hoa had given me the 30 days notice i knocked on the neighbor organizing owner's door did i mention he was the president of the hoa and had him sign for two documents the first was that i planned to build a house on my hoa property which confused him and the second was notice that they had 30 days to remove from the property the guard shed the parts of the electric boom that were on my property as well as the sign he tried to engage me but i ignored him climbed into my car and drove off early the next morning i got a call from the hoa lawyer who explained to me that their junk would be staying on my property since it was an unused part of my land i explained that i was building a house there and that the land would not be unused anymore i could hear the smirk as he told me that building a second house to be spiteful would not be accepted by the courts i sure hope he could hear the smirk in my voice when i told him that the property in question did not have a house and was in fact barely large enough for a house to be built and would not be large enough for any extraneous buildings i then told him to go look up the property in question and call me back i had sliced off just enough to be legal which was just enough to build a small house it took them just under five days to get back to me their lawyer told me that the terms of the easement meant that i could not cancel without their permission so i emailed him a photo of the document they sent to me cancelling the easement that afternoon neighbor organized owner invited me to lunch his treat to discuss the problem i said no thanks he extended the offer again two days later and again i said no thanks others of the original organized owners contacted me to try to talk some sounded aggressive some sounded sympathetic i said no thanks to each of them eventually the lawyer phoned and asked if we could come to some sort of arrangement i asked what he had in mind and he told me that he was prepared to discuss exclusions in exchange for access to my property so i said no thanks and please don't call me again about 9 days before their 30 days was up i got a call from a different lawyer he said he wanted to negotiate a surrender his words not mine i agreed to meet him at his office the next day i'd already had documents drawn up and the meeting was as simple as me giving him the documents and him reading them over my new easement offer one included everything offered by the old easement offer two i changed the line mow the lawn to get the property to hoa standards and keep it there since it was now in the hoa 3 would cost them about 500 per month instead of 35 this amount would increase with inflation the previous contract didn't include that bit four when cancelled for whatever reason the hoa would have to pay me a cancellation fee of around 7 500 5. the contract automatically terminated 30 days after a any disciplinary action was taken against me my tenant or the property b any complaints were levied by the hoa against the property c any legal action was taken against the property by anyone in the hoa six that lawyer who had offered to negotiate surrender would be allowed to mediate any disputes between us at hoa's expense and that seven the hoa would pay all my legal fees if any legal action was taken against me i deliberately left some insane things in there so that i could appear to concede some points or be negotiated down when the hoa got indignant about the points i actually cared about the lawyer didn't look happy he said that my proposal sounded unfair but that he'd have the hoa president look at them i reminded him that in eight days i'd be setting a group of men armed with sledgehammers and anger management issues loose on whatever of theirs was still on my property that evening i got an irate call from the hoa president he told me he was never going to sign the new contract i said okay he then told me i was charging too much per month and that it should be at the same rate as the previous contract i pointed out that when i signed the previous contract the area was under development and there was at least one other road leading in and out but that now there was only mine and besides mine was now developed with everything they needed he told me that i was forcing them to sign a document they didn't want to sign i told him that he was free not to sign it he whined about everything he could think of and then eventually told me i'd be hearing from his lawyer the next morning surrender lawyer called to ask if i'd be willing to come to their offices to sign the contract i agreed when i got there that afternoon i learned that surrender lawyer was not a lawyer but a paralegal he handed me the contract and asked me to sign it he laughed when i told him i'd have to read through it first to make sure nothing was changed and mumbled something that sounded like i'm sure you would i read the contract nothing had been changed not a single thing and the hoa president had signed it with the surrender paralegal signing as a witness i looked at him and said why did he sign this it was stupid to sign it and the paralegal looked at me and said i started telling him that signing it would be a bad decision but he told me i wasn't being paid to think or give legal advice and to shut up so i shut up i said do you understand what he signed here he looks at me and nods he said i asked him if i should have one of the lawyers look at it before giving it to you and he told me that we already billed enough for this and that he'd sign it and sue me after their easement was safe this happened about a year and a half ago it took six months for the hoa to find out how screwed they were they wanted to sue me but their lawyers explained to them that there was no way to win even if the court sided with them all they would get is the easement contract voided and they did not think that the court would side with them the lawyers were adamant about one thing the hoa could not live with the hoa pays my legal fees if legal action was taken against me since it didn't limit the people taking legal action against me to the hoa as worded the hoa would be forced to pay for my legal fees if anyone took legal action against me they argued that the courts would probably not enforce that since the context of the agreement was to do with the hoa and i told them i was prepared to find out since the hoa would definitely be the ones taking action against me if they challenged it i eventually signed an addendum to the contract that said that the neighbor originating owner hoa president would personally pay all my legal fees unless he held no position at all in the hoa and that the hoa would pay all legal fees if the hoa took legal action against me he resigned from the hoa at the end of that meeting i politely told him in front of everyone that he should not sign documents unless he understands what he's signing he didn't look pleased it came out during the mediation you cannot imagine how happy the lawyers were that their paralegal was mediating that without the ability to control access to the hoa neighborhood through the security boom partially on my property the hoa had become a gated community a number of years back the hoa would be in breach of their own articles and would be dissolved i also learned should have been obvious to me that all the security cameras were wired and all terminate in the guard house and guard shed so basically it was my way or the end of the hoa that first mediation was really quite funny my paralegal looked more than a little glum as we assembled and he called everyone to order i suspected that he had been told to work against me so i took the initiative i reminded everyone there that i had agreed to let paralegal mediate but that i had agreed to no arbitration at all if i didn't feel like the proceedings were fair i'd leave and they could go ahead and sue paralegal brightened up and things actually went quite well i'm writing this after getting home from the latest mediation i built a paddling pool for the neighborhood dogs as in i made it myself i dug a hole packed it with stone and added concrete finish it was my first attempt and if i say so myself it looked well terrible the hoa called for a mediation meeting what they do now instead of taking official action i've declined their mediation requests in the past in which they told me as nicely as they could that the paddling pool was an eyesore right at the entrance of the hoa i asked them to create a list of what needed to be fixed and how it needed to be fixed to give me at the next meeting the list was extensive it basically required the pool to be rebuilt from scratch i asked them if there was any way to reduce costs on the work they needed to get it up to hoa standards and they assured me there was not i thanked them pulled out a copy of the agreement where they had agreed to get the property to hoa standards which i'd highlighted and handed it to them with the list i told them the hoa usually preferred if these things were dealt with within 30 days they started arguing until the mediator reminded them that they could not force me to comply without causing the easement to end i should mention that their lawyers usually no longer attend these things they said they would get it done i also learned a lot about neighbor organized owner today one i found out that neighbor organized owner sold his property about three months back and is apparently leaving the country for australia two i found out that the hoa had successfully sued him for a crapload of money they had lost to his mismanagement as part of his vendetta against me three i also learned that he had a vendetta against me i have no idea what i did to upset him i'm not sure if i will screw with the hoa anymore i already think i'm so close to breaking them the only thing stopping them from canceling the contract is the massive financial loss if they do i guess a lot depends on how they treat me and my tenants going forward also i do like the monthly payments though so i'm motivated to play nice op added a note at the end it says i never intended to go all nuclear revenge my plan was for a little petty revenge it's the stupidity and greed and bully mentality of the neighbor organizing owner that turned this into nuclear revenge i can only take minimal credit although i did take it and run with it when i got the opportunity so that's something i guess wait a minute i didn't know we were still sending convicts and shady people to australia didn't that end sometime in the mid-1800s this is an absolutely brilliant story though and to think this whole mess they found themselves in was their own fault for trying to f you and they thought you'd take it laying down i guess they're the ones who eventually took it laying down check out op linked in the description down below i thank you for watching i hope you have a wonderful day and we'll see you tomorrow

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Length: 18min 19sec (1099 seconds)

Published: Sat Oct 09 2021