Repairs Declined! Misdiagnosed (Almost) 2013 Chevy Camaro

hello there viewers good day to you and welcome back to the channel if this is your first time here just welcome glad you're here as well this is a I think a 2013 Chevrolet Camaro the midnight Edition black wheels on black paint on black tinted windows uh customer States a Litany of issues uh one of which is I can't unlock the door cuz the button receded inside of there try the pinky flang that's not going to work no oh it's not even locked okay any anyway customer States a couple things here uh one of which is that the AC blows warm uh another of which is that the transmission grinds between second and third gear powering down and something else but I already forgot so we'll check the paperwork when I get back inside beginning engine starting sequence now at 17427 mil on the odometer H check engine light no let's find out about that AC real quick cuz it's hot outside and it's hot in here let's see Power this thing on you know we haven't had a Camaro on the channel for quite some time uh certainly haven't had one in the past year or so the last one the last one I think it was a I think I had a predatory customer who was trying to scam the shop and I like I noticed right away because he was saying I found all the stuff wrong with his car and he immediately said oh no it doesn't do any of that I'm not saying this Camaro guy did does that but the last guy he uh the thing didn't start and the battery terminals were all hacked together and smashed up or broken or whatever a bunch of tools and a gas can was in the trunk and the the guy that owned the car was like oh yeah no it starts every time there's no cranking problem and then I caught him and I I I felt he was a predatory customer and I think I made a video on that car um I will look back and see if I uh if I can find that video I'll put a link to it down inside of this video's description so that's for all you Camaro guys I also believe that was a Super Sport Camaro and this one sounds like a six-cylinder Camaro ring yeah it's a V6 Camaro yeah let me go find Lauren real quick so we can see what the uh the other third complaint was on this car I think she's there she is over there uhoh tow truck's coming in with something on the hook hey L what was the other complaint on this car check a it's warm power steering leak and that's it power steering leak and shifting grinding yeah two to Second To Third here okay let me get out of the tow truck guys way now I remember power steering leak got it oh it's a miniature van that's broken I wonder what is wrong with it it's probably got a penar V6 you guys know how I love those pen Stars so yeah survey says the AC in this vehicle is definitely not even even blowing anything so I'm just going to turn it off it's blowing hot air actually let's go out take for a ride real quick and we're going to check on that second to third gear grinding bit of business or first gear right here that's second and third says yeah that was a little rough into third right there wonder if it's got a worn out shift fork okay second again going into third yeah it's a little tough into third I believe we have some uh some internal wear on our transmission all right trying it again second gear winding out third yeah yeah it's not grinding for me okay all right well back to the shop I would like to uh address the other concerns uh I'm probably going to imagine that the AC is going to be the primary issue here especially considering that uh it's hot outside and we are in Florida and AC is a necessary function of most Vehicles yeah it didn't even grind it didn't grind on me even during downshift so I think we're I think we're good here green light all there's first gear second gear yeah I think this thing's it hasn't done it yet come on one more time winding out third gear I wonder if uh our driver is not fully depressing the clutch that could be the cause for the concern is a not fully disengage engaged clutch and second Again full speed yeah it seems to be okay I better slow my roll cuz I saw there was a uh sheriff's department vehicle right over here earlier under the bridge is he still there yep there he is hiding out see him over there we could see you good hide in space yeah I saw him earlier trying to catch people driving in excess of the speed limit breaking the law breaking the law a third gear downshift no grinding okay back to the shop space let's get this thing racked up we'll check on that power steering leak and I will throw this on the AC machine and we'll see what's going on with uh the climate control system so stay tuned because this is going to be a very good [Music] video yeah [Music] all right parking is the auto let's go ahead pop the hood here and get down below to the climate control under the hood and see if we can get this thing to come alive or not wonder if it's just low on a refrigerant or if we have a leak perhaps the uh compressor is no longer compressing we're going to find out hello V6 Camaro yeah that's a 3.6 L well that smells something cooking in there okay looking down below that AC compressor is definitely not running and that's that's weird that clutch looks rather mangled let's get in there for the closeup Mr dille see if you can't see this AC clutch yeah the front of that's not looking too healthy yeah I doubt that's the real problem there but it didn't look that good um where's my service valves here let's check these units okay we got a leaker look at that right there 1000% leaker see it boiling out very very bubbly okay now one might think that hey look we found a a leak there's the problem let's just uh fix the valve and recharge it and have a nice day that is putting the carart before the horse so what we need to do first before I do anything and tell the customer we found anything is we're going to put a charge to this thing and we're going to determine whether or not that the low charge is actually the cause of the system not functioning uh reason being is let's let's say the system goes out maybe the compressor dies in this unit and the customer goes out and they buy one those little cans of a refrigerat you can get from the store they plug it in and they fill the system up and although there is a leak that may not be the exact reason that the system had failed so the reason that's putting the cart before the horse is I could tell this guy hey I found a leak you're just low on refrigerant and we quote him to change the valve and then uh fill the thing back up and before you know it you get all done with what you said you were going to do and the system still is not functioning so that's a that's a scenario that we do not want to entertain and would like to avoid so before we do anything final regarding the estimate we're going to make sure this system is capable of functioning and that it cools properly so what I will do is we're going to hook the machine up to it I'm going to throw in you know like a half a pound or 6 lb or whatever which should be enough to get it going at least see it's got some refrigerant in there see this look at here 100 and something lb so again just because we have that leak right there doesn't mean that's actually the reason that it's not functioning so we need to diagnose and confirm the reason it does not work before we uh proceed with any repairs in the meantime I think what I'll do is set the rack on this thing run it up in the air and we're going to take a look at that power steering pump now because we seem to have some pressure here I do not know how much refrigerant is in and again my guy may have uh he may have put refrigerant in it so I'm just going to evacuate everything and then install a known good charge that is uh the correct level so again uh recover do not save information connect hoses yeah we did that I must have hit X not thinking about it so now the system's recovering we're going to pull this thing completely down start over from a baseline amount looks like it's going to take .54 Kil that's 540 G of refrigerant in the system that's total capacity here I'm just going to push this forward since it's a manual so I need to go ahead and wow the heat's on in here that's hot oh I'm an idiot look the AC is not on there we go and the heat was turned up okay here let's turn it down to cool is this guy trolling me can't believe I just did that he had the heat on why is the Heat on anyway hang on I may have just uh ruined my entire diagnosis so let's start over let's recover everything I mean I'm not really that bad off but the compressor not being on was my own doing um kind of a little uh little feeling a little sheepish but it happens on on occasion we do such things I am Human After All But since the machine is recovering it never hurts to determine a known good charge so I I'm really eting no loss here let's rack this thing up get it up in the air I'll take a look uh for that ref or I'm thought refrigerant I'll take a look for that power steering leak and then by the time the machine is done uh recovering we'll know how much refrigerant came out and then we can kind of just uh make a decision as to the path of repair later on that's uh that's broken things are broken on our Camaro let's raise this uh up a little bit there's a pinch weld right here we can use that same thing here on the right rear corner pinch weld make sure we're not smashing Plastics then up front too high up this guy is going to go under there should be some metallic structure y right there there we go afid to rock and roll moving on up black subscribe button all right coming up to the top and yeah it's got a power steering leak that's for sure it's definitely marking its territory look at that that's uh not okay what uh what are we doing here steering gear motor mount I power steering pump where's my leak and what is it it's a serious leak but where is it coming from H leaky leaky where are you I can't tell you guys yeah the pump's up there I think it's a pump leaking now now it's coming out of the steering gear right here see all that there fluid everywhere running right out of that steering shaft hang on let me grab a towel or some spray or both we'll clean it off then watch it leak out yeah that's a full one go and Shake It Off okay let's see here make it nice and shiny stanky oh yeah look at it right there leaking right out of the steering gear look at it pouring out yep right here look at there just covered in power steering I know the light might be messing it up but it's running down you can see it carrying debris so we need a uh a racking pinion that is our power steering leak there's probably a slight leak up at the pump as well but uh not not really like the major primary concern that one just had some saturation on it but the big leak is absolutely dumping fluid out everywhere here real quick throw some absorbent mats on that leave that alone for later off the lock more off the lock coming down okay we're on the ground I just heard the AC machine start to beep so let's go ahead and install the charge and we're going to see if uh this compressor is going to come on so we recovered 480 lbs of refrigerant that's probably like halfway I can't convert the uh excuse me I can't convert the metric to pounds in my head uh just off hand so we're just going to install this at 540 G Rams charging and then I can build the estimate once I know if that compressor is going to come on or not so we're going to switch this to metric 054 G that's .54 kg charging now I do realize that I will have to discharge this yet again in order to change the two service valves I know that one's leaking don't know about that one so much but I do uh I will have to change both valves but right now we're in the diagnosing diagnostic stage uh of this repair and we need to gather information before uh throwing Parts at the thing so begin charging sequins now with reading the tank weight measuring what's in the tank so it can measure properly how much it installed in the vehicle charge is going in high side's coming up no sides coming up AC's turned on inside let's watch our compressor and see if it's going to kick on oh look at there compressor's already running look at that cool okay so we know the compressor works let's go in and start to feel for some coldness see what we get nothing yet okay it's been a minute the machine was taking a real long time or rather the car was taking taking a long time to finish the charge off so I had the compressors shut down it is now let me pause this it still wasn't complete it was at like 95% complete but that last little bit uh just didn't want to didn't want to do it yeah we got 447 kg in there so we've got a charge in it compressor is running we've got high side pressure we're up there at 250 low side 50 psi and and down like it should be let's go check our fans and then we can come back inside and check the internal temp if the fan is not running it's not going to cool very efficiently so I've got uh we have fan flow here on that one and that one over there is also flowing this is good so the pressures are reasonable we're coming down to 40 PSI in the low side that's what we like to see and Center vent temp yeah it's it's up there a little bit a little warm 90° is what my meter said put it over here in this uh in that one we'll give it a little bit of throttle okay yeah she's coming down now we're at 70 make sure all my settings are correct we're on cold recirculation compressor's turned on in my face vence temp still coming down we're 60° okay so now the system is cooling as it should be yeah we're 60 right here it's pretty hot day out today too it's a little warm so yep coming down to about 50 55 52 something like that okay so the system is capable of cooling let's go ahead and shut this thing down so we know we need a power steering rack and pinion need some fluid uh I always do outer tie rods when I do rack and pinions and we need to put new service valves on this AC system and it just needs a recharge with uh with refrigerant we're good to go so let me go and get this estimated real quick and uh we're going to call our guy and see what we're going to do and then we'll get started Okie does well this video is going to be shorter than I had anticipated because the uh well number one that steering gear is a day away and number two I quoted a uh a GM factory steering gear not a remanufactured one and I think I kind of over quoted the job it was a fairly uh it was a pricey unit so I think what I'm going to do I mean I got the approval to fix the AC stuff but I got a decline on the steering gear so what I'm going to do here is I'm going to requote this for later on and I'm going to price out a more economical steering steing unit uh for the time being though we're going to change out this uh service valve right here that's the ball in U I guess I'll call it a ball in socket type of valve it's like a spring-loaded ball that's in there uh from what we saw earlier that one over there that's just a regular shraer fitting so we're going to pull this apart change both the valves recharge it yet again uh like I said I've got a noo on the steering gear for now um but what I'll do is I'm going to requote it with a a remanufactured cheaper level component and we'll see if we cannot uh get this thing fixed up at a later date so the steering gear is a like I said a no no for today we're just going to fix the AC and then ship it on its way and I did not mean to make that rhyme but it did so the machine is re recovering yet again let me go ahead and fetch my uh core remover tool and then I'll fetch the socket to pull that valve off the line right there the new valve has been ordered so we're going to get that changed out real quick like and then uh like I said we're going to send this thing on on down the road and on its way cuz it needs to go home because they only have one car so that ball in socket valve requires a specialized socket you'll notice the extra points uh on this unit right here this is designed specifically for these Valves and a regular socket won't work and I discourage the use of pliers or wrenches on these because it can nurl up the surface and then your uh AC fittings will not fit onto the service valve okay so refrigerant re recovery is nearly complete here let's go ahead and pull pull this valve out of here so what I need to do is make sure the line doesn't twist cuz these lines are very thin aluminum and they can twist and break uh quite easily so we'll slip the socket over it get the wrench on to hold the line in position here unick it unscrew it there we go now we're sucking vacuum or here's our fitting let's give it some hammer T here to break it free so there's our leaking unit so now we can compare the two valves together here's the old one there's our new one came with some thread loock on it new o-ring this guy is looking good let's go ahead and get this threaded on and installed then we'll get the small shider valve on the low Sid line and once uh once that gu is installed we can pull this down into a vacuum again and recharge it there we go plug this unit right back in right here open it up some and we are good on that high side line let's take our low side off beep now this is a different type of valve it's just a uh a regular shraer valve like what you would find inside of a tire valve stem so we just go in with the little shraer removal tool and we seem to have some interference here with the valve cover that's kind of annoying it we'll Flex it spin this guy out yeah there's no sense in just changing one valve I got to do got to do them in the pair so there's our secondary valve old one right here new one right here let's go ahead and get this thing set up into its uh Service Port flexing tightening threading clicking finger clicks only and we'll go ahead and put the line back on it and then start the vacuum process and we didn't vacuum this earlier cuz it did have some refrigerant in the system but since now it's empty and we opened it up we've introduced some air air contains moisture and moisture is the enemy of an AC system so so we going to vacuum this uh standard 10minute vacuum should be sufficient checking Inlet pressures which we have none do not save the records 10-minute vacuum sucking it down to 29.9 in Mercury and once the vacuum is complete we can then install the proper and correct charge moving right along here our vacuum is complete we're going to go ahead and install our charge uh back to metric 00540 and I would like to run this on the low side this time because the high side charge was taking its sweet time to go in on the last one so we're going to do a low side charge uh reason being is if it does not want to take the charge for any reason I can turn the compressor on and the compressor will pull suction on the low siiz service side and allow that refrigerant to be drawn in from the machine with with greater ease so while this is doing that I can clear off my tools and goodies here I've already cleared the rack let's just get the get my stuff out from under the hood and uh we're going to prep to complete uh this particular operation here okay charge is going in you see how the low side is super pressurized and the high sides on its way up to equalize that tells me that there is refrigerant flowing through the uh expansion block and through the compressor cuz it is making its way onto the high side of the system and we are going in quite nicely 48 kg we're looking for 54 kg yeah let's go ahead and uh start this thing up and let it begin cooling it's got a mostly full charge and considering it's low side charge we can do that so clutch in neutral parking brake for safety key on beginning engine restarting sequence now it is alive yet again okay AC full blast in your face mode got thermometer AC on recirc is going in neutral let back out of the clutch and climb on out real quick in preparation for our machine to complete its task you done yet 527 kilos it's a lot of kilos waiting waiting waiting wait upward all done hose equalized let's do hose compensate I prefer hose compensate over hose equalized what it's going to do is basically install the amount of refrigerant which is pre-calibrated in the machine that would be contained within the two hoses cuz that's a known quantity that fills those hoses and since we installed it and it takes its measurement from the internal tank everything that goes into those hoses is part of that measurement and if you don't do a hose compensate then you will slightly undercharge it by3 lb I believe uh either way it is now complete pressures are spot on looking good 230 we know the fans are running so at this point we can go ahead and detach our service valves oh that right there you'll find that to be uh kind of normal when you first disc connect these you'll see the bubbles right there because it has to seat that valve but if we take a closer Gander we can see there's no more bubbles coming out so we're good to go here put the cap on before it gets too hot let's get the uh the rear valve off come [Applause] on please come [Applause] off W it's stuck there we go it was a right-handed job not a left-handed job so we'll put a new service cap on that line tighten that guy down there we go take our hoses throw these guys over the machine and I need to recover the hoses so we hit the arrow button and it's basically just going to recover its own self and pull refrigerant out of the hoses send it back into the machine in into the storage tank and that's good to go so next power down the light rid of the power cord get that out of here we're going to hang you up right here for next time Hood closed we're good to go okay I'm going to go ahead and pull this out get it parked let us check the center vent temp see what we're working with here yeah right now we're in the mid-50s that's about 55 not too bad for being indoors with no air flow reverse mode backing out whoa wrong reverse mode see that almost ran into the wall that's why we have insurance all right backing out the auto looking good in the neighborhood no one behind me checking the mirrors machine's done re- recovering passing the door of death you know I leave that open because if the door is closed number one that's less air flow I can have and since the office is here folks don't really know where it is but that door being open is quite inviting so they'll go into that door and then they face a wall so they have no choice but to look left or look right if you look right you see the shop but if you look left you see a door to the office so it's actually there to guide people into uh into the office cuz sometimes folks come in and I don't see them coming in from wherever I'm at and they have to figure it out for themselves that's just the way anyway back to sing into the hole this vehicle is complete get her all lined up and we ready to rock and roll and we're good to go guys so having said all that I do not believe I have anything more to offer you on this particular Camaro at this time uh like I said earlier I did offer the guy that owns this car a cheaper solution as opposed to the uh the GM steering gear it only came in at like $170 less uh than the factory unit so I I really can't do much for him but uh I mean it is what it is maybe uh maybe we'll get to do this job later on so guys having said all that as always like to thank you for watching this video I hope you enjoyed this video even though it's uh rather shorter than uh my normal content uh let me know what you think about it in the comment section down below uh one more time do not forget to go back and check out that other Camaro video down inside this video's description I think that one got a couple million views back in the day so it was a pretty popular one um you may have seen it because again there's a couple million of you out there watching if you didn't see it again link is down this video's description and I will also place it right up here at this in screen button and uh you know just for fun I will stick a link to it in the comment section so while you're in there leaving me a comment when you're done you can go scroll on up to the top of the page click that link and check out some more Super Sport Camaro action so guys that'll about do it I'm go and close this one out again thank you guys for watching and most importantly before I go I'd like to remind each and every one of you to not forget to have yourselves a great day see you guys later in a video into 50° Camaro into transmission goodbye Camaro

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Length: 31min 49sec (1909 seconds)

Published: Sun Apr 21 2024