Recoil Starter rope replacement for Honda & other small engines

and those common thing that has to be done small engines is replacement of the starter road we get this call here a lot of air tools kind of every place my starting road people think they have to buy a whole new recoil starter assembly which is not necessarily true usually just rotate for your flight that's explosive apart this is a brand new recoil starter off a Honda engine just rope got a little cut here during a project so I'm just going to go ahead and replace it years ago so I'm going to give you a little walkthrough on how to replace this thing without having parts flying all over the place so first thing is to take this off the engine as I mentioned this is off on the engine on the BTS machines getting a recoil starter off usually entails having to take the engine bumper some models you can buy without taking the bumper off it just depends on whether you can access the three screws that hold the starter on sometimes there's also a debris screen over the rootball starter that would be like a black perforated metal screen that we install on there to keep trashed and getting sucked up in your cooling fins if that's in place just take out the phillips head screws that hold it on pull it off and you can access the bolts holding the recoil starter on this procedure that i'm going to show you here is good for just about all small engines certainly hit that honda would be the same on most reason stratton yamaha kohler engines the Kohler diesels are a little different because you have to take the rope pulley out of those most of these other ones have a knot but not a pulley access pretty easily from the top employees you don't actually have to remove the pulley so what I'm going to do I'm going to pull this completely out until it's full fully extended point now the Honda makes it real easy because they have this webbing in the in the center of the pulley here which makes the pulley kind of a pass-through and they also have these slots on the recoil cover actually I'm going to select a slightly smaller screwdriver review this one here and stick all the way down through there now it's jammed in place the recoil can't rewind it's trying to rewind that is if this wasn't here the spring that just wind it back up I don't want it to do that I want to pull this all the way out so the spring is fully charged fully loaded and now and I'm not going to want to set that down on the table and let that think push the screwdriver back up for us it'll just pop back in so now I'm going to take this out now if your if your rope has already broken if you completely broke in half while you were pulling it then you wouldn't have to particularly well you won't have to remove the old rope but what you would do in the case actually will simulate that German I'll shut up and just like working so now I'm going to cut this knot off here dig this out so rope is out now if your rope had broken so that was just starting to say then of course this spring would be completely discharged that is this thing would have boiled and just it would be doing nothing in here so to be no spring load to start with in that case you can spring load this before you install the new rope the easy way to do that is simply look at the Ricoh starter housing figure out which way the rope would have wound in there you can always tell what the angle at which this this Eila is in here so I can see that this eyelet sort of facing up so I know the Rope lines around this way so you turn wasn't pulling the opposite direction so I'm sorry no I'll turn it the same direction right because at bad boys are so as you hold this it would be tensioning the spring so the imaginary rope would be detention at this way so I'm going to pre tension this spring by wrapping this thing up and I'm going to wind it and ride it and wind it gently until it stops now that's that's the stopping point right there now that's when the when it stops is when that spring is a big spring in here that spring is now completely wound up tight don't really want that spring to be what stops the rope when you pull out the rope to the lowest point if it is you'll break the end off the spring because the spring will be you know under a lot of stress every time so now that I fully charged it I'm going to let this pulley back and I'm going to look for the little hole through the pulley where the rope would line up with this eyelet where the rope comes out so there's the there's this there's the point right there here's the hole and there's the eyelet that it passes out so I've wound up the spring fully and then I backed it off to the point the first point where that hole lines up with this hole then I'm going to lock in this place now the the spring is going to have enough tension to pull all the rope back into the thing that's the beste Teeter trick to rewinding your spring or recharging your spring these handles are fully reusable you usually just have some kind of a plastic inserts in the rubber right there you don't need a new handle is because you needed a rope just going to pull this up out of here and I'll do that here's a new roller rope rope is just sold by the foot typically anybody who sells it and cut lengths is just cutting it off of the world and charging you more for it probably would so I'm going to match this up it should be about five feet this one's probably a little shorter than that but you can fit a little more on these things I'll go back six inches longer than the original here by the time not to these intangible space so I'm going to use a propane torch you can use a match or a Bic lighter or something I like to burn the end of this world to this little bit just to keep it from unraveling that's real good for analysis if you don't have calluses you know it do so now keep this imageries here get it fed through the pulley I have it takes a little synapse I was real lucky I hit the hole in the pulley the first time sometimes you got to kind of get down there along those pliers and put it through somebody is paging me they're going to have parade on tying our mountain end of the Rope just a single square knot is usually sufficient although this one has a lot of room for a knot in here so I'm going to actually give it a double loop square knot just to absolutely ensure that doesn't come loose there we go all right that's my confirmed I'll half this up back over here through the rubber first and through the inserts what's kind of iron I think is enough through there's plenty of room in that handle for a double as well so one loop through to loop through nice and tight if it's been measured here all right perfect now pull this out I'm going to hold the pulley with my thumb just so out of control release here and voila right back in and it works just like it should now there are some cases you find where you know you have a recoil starter where we call it stun is hanging out and that's the case where you know like the you've used a long time maybe the recoil spring slips a little bit or maybe some point somebody at some point that's put a rope it in and not tension the spring properly didn't quite have enough of it out there an artificially key tensioning spring here so there it is it's an engine with its tongue hanging I'm really tired so you can fix this without taking this whole thing apart and you do it just in the versus of how I just did it so I'll walk through that a little slower so what I'm going to do to tighten this I need to tension that spring without wanting to get more rope on the pulley so I'm going to do it we'll pull it out maybe a foot here just expose the Rope slip this rope out from behind the pulley and some of some Indians have a little knot in the side of the pulley it's like I'll just just a little u-shape not the Honda engines don't bother putting that in there but actually some older combos you can still find that a lot of the bridge motor Kohler motors most Indians have some kind of a little notch on the front of recoil pulley and that's handy because when you pull the rope out like this to tension the spring you just spin it up into that notch since this doesn't have a notch I just have to sort of hold that spring for the rope with my thumb against the pulley and I use the the world actually tension the spring that I'm winding this thing up and I can feel that I'm tightening the spring so I'm tightening the spring I just did one around without wrapping the robot anymore because the rope was disengaged out of the pulley slot so that is one now I know that this feels a little weak it's not great I have taken two loops off this earlier you saw let me do it so I'm going to put two back on it cuz I could have done two events but I just tested it there so now snapped that night now you can over tension these things of course if it's over tension then it would be a case where when you pull it out to the maximum of point if it stops if the pulley stops before this is lined up you know it's actually bottoming out of the spring and that's over tension you're going to break the spring if you keep running it that way so you have to back it off one loop so that at the end of the rope what's stopping you is actually the rope and not the spring compressing that's it a little lubricant around the moving parts usually helps if you've got that kind of rewind server with these kind of little to jump out of it here not a good idea those are the jaws that engage with the flywheel of the engine to start the motor you don't want to get a lot of lubricant right on those jaws because they usually rely on some kind of friction system to kick them out so if I was going to spray any lubricant on this starter which it doesn't need to this brain I would probably try to get any and defined here to lubricate the spring in the back of the starter not necessarily get it on the where the jaws jump out of there so I would spray it in here and then kind of hold that rewind up on its side and working it out like this to work that lubricant down into the spring so that's it reruns Dargo one thanks for watching

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Id: loiMhEcj1PA

Length: 11min 10sec (670 seconds)

Published: Fri Jun 30 2017