R Kelly: The Raw & Uncut Interview - 1998

I'd love to know your very first childhood memory musically was your very first job musical childhood memory musical what childhood memory our musical child yeah I could remember slowing up the record to get home I bet you was someone approaches the theater to hear that you will be German you would not believe it because you never thought that you will be jamming as God Stevie Wonder I remember slowing that up just to get that because I couldn't understand what he was saying I was so interested to hear what he was saying so I could learn it and I was like one of the hardest things I heard Stevie wanted to do so I wanted to get that so I remember that I was about I guess 1213 that's very funny you said that did the same thing yeah exactly I did enjoy every single witness yeah it was brilliant genius that's just an aside to be honest I and I did that I mean I want to know what the first instrument you ever played picked up was in the first instrument you ever had an affinity with the geek time my mom bought me a guitar my brother a bass guitar and my other brother drum set and mine was like the lead guitar I was the first instrument and what's the first thing you ever composed on that guitar a song that I just a musical thing ding ding ding ding ding that's all I do he did for lyrics event I'm not I couldn't put lyrics I wasn't in a writing situation then I didn't know how to write a song but he was eclis you said your mom bought you the guitar she come from a musical family oh yeah yeah my mom sang i sister sang and of course like it's my but my brother played bass and my other brother played drums it seemed as if you know kids working-class backgrounds music was such an important part of life especially in their like 70s and 80s it was just such a you know everybody I've spoken to seems to say it was our church it was either music always playing in the house somebody my family was musical did you find that and amongst your page at that time yeah I found the same thing around the 70s especially around 74 you know it was all love you know it was like music was more effective you know if you hear love song come out about Isley's or anyone like that I mean you often gave you you it would make you want to make love or make you want to love or come closer to your family or your woman or your wife you know it was definitely more effective back there because obviously now with rap music being so dominant especially through the 80s that whole you don't get that sense that that is going on as much and it is kind of more of an egg and angst and a kind of anger out there so did that I mean doing music some like myself was seen as no you don't let the music that's like dancing you know year one zines yeah having that background your family behind you did and I know about your school and I know that a certain lady died like you to tell us about who inspired you and encourage you to do your music can you tell us a bit about her well that's Lena McLean like my second mother and she's a pastor and everything I might eat my music teacher in high school in high school my freshman year I was a starting on Kimmel was basketball team which is name of my high school and but I happen to have a music class at that point in time I was and I think I was about 16 17 well I was not I was not interested in music I was really trying to be the next Michael Jordan of course and she told me that I was sing you know I would be the next Stevie Wonder or superstar Michael Jackson or something like that and I and I laughed at like she was crazy you know I was I couldn't see it and everything I am today she could see it my mother could see it and she would tell me that I was going to be where I'm at today and even farther so and it just just happened on she put me in a talent show and I did the talent show and the girls were screaming and everything and I was man I I don't get this kind of love on the court you know and of course I'm going to choose that over basketball and I did and I've been doing it ever since so what would you say that was your big break or third stage a little further down the line that was the significant break whew music I would say my big break is that point in time I learned that Stevie Wonder uh riff I was one of the steps because I felt like man if I learned that I could learn anything because that guy was going pretty fast but as far as crowd wise and what nail did I would say my first talent show pretty much is what bit me in a way like Peter Parker got bit by a spider and became spider-man you know that was that was the bite for me you know when we when the women and everybody was showing me so much love at the talent show and I want and I was like wow it was overwhelming can you reel if that fare and energy that you had the first time you went on stage and had to actually compete to try and win you know like a talent comes because that must be just and for a young guy really awesome experience well I had my eyes closed through the whole thing so I just heard everything the ideas she put me in these black glasses and had a friend of mine walk me out on the stage like our Stevie Wonder and she had me sing ribbon in the sky and I man soon as I started singing the crowd the crowd start cheering and screaming and and all I can remember is ending it and when I ended they people were standing up they told me because I kept my eyes closed until he walked me back off the stage the best way to act blind is to close your eyes so that's what I did did you do that when you got signed to Jive what what happened that did was that was a song of some demos that you did oh yeah management actually I had got into some situation with management that I was with before I even got signed with Javan oh I had a manager skip out of town with some money that we had won you know from a talent show and there was a lot of trouble with that and in the day the day I broke up with him was actually the day I was bumming the transfer trying to get a bus to get home and I was walking down 79th and I walked past the Regal theater and he said gospel play was going on and I went in there and I asked the guy said young man any more additions going on he said no we just closed it up man and said man give me a chance man let me do some I'm on my last dime here you know and they were like well that's it man so I started singing anyway and I sang a song Amazing Grace and they introduced me to Barry Hankerson I sang to Barry Hankerson and and he offered to put me into play and I said you know that's great that's great and so as time went on come to find out he wanted me to uh I want I told him that I could write I didn't want to do the play I want to write him through my own album so once I showed him a couple of songs on the piano and a couple of demos he's like my god you write you can write you know live let's take you to Jive Records and that's what we did to us sip your coffee I'm gonna be cold okay takes me to born into the 90s a phenomenal debut album and something that didn't really tell us whether you're going to be a big balladeer or a club guy because you know you really came off big with she got that vibe so tell me in hindsight now looking back on that album where do you see your strengths and weaknesses did you use the album were to kind of test it for you you know for what was to come yeah that's exactly what I did with the born into the nineties Apple once I found out I had an album dealing and we were pulling a studio to do an album I was like searching I was like man I got all of these melodies and songs and me I don't know what to do first and I just listened to the radio and just calm down this to the radio and kind of you know like the stocks you know you see what's hot what's hot and what's not and uh I saw the up temples were in at that point in time so I went in did she's got that vibe which was last song on the album and did a couple of ballets just in case you know I was pretty much searching at that point in time that's quite unusual that you're actually admitting that you you know that you were aware that maybe I'm going to go that way maybe with notes some people's ago when I wrote that from the heart and that's my first time that's what I'm about end of story mad I didn't have a clue I was like I just wanted it to work out my hunger was there more than anything and me being hungry I I'm always like them nervous what will the people like what are they feeling I try to figure out what the what is the world feeling right now with my first two albums you know that's how I was well let's talk about the second album because you know in this day and age and history way so it's the second album is the most difficult to grow from the first into a second album develop as an artist you pleased with the outcome of the second album executive direction you terminus it all gone exactly I want Kelly wanted it to go yeah the twelve play album really had a whole 12 play I became about it I was on tour with Joel Evert and we were opening up for him you know we were the opening act trying to prove still trying to prove myself so and Joe had all of the lights and smoke in the fog and just the big production you know and I was like wow I can't wait to get to that point and I figured the only thing that was going to get me to that point because I had like a flashlight and a mic you know when I was open enough for Joe he want to give you much but you know so but I said to myself I have to do something out there on that stage that that'll make people forget about the lights and the whole nine you know I got to throw down you know to get to the next level I need to know how to perform without all of that and that's when I came up with twelve play it was actually a song in a in my show had nothing to do with anything that was on my album but I said I'm gonna put this twelve play on my I'm gonna write that song so the women can scream because I know if they if I count down from 12 to 1 or from 1 to 12 one of them I do I know they're gonna go crazy you know cuz that's the way I feel you know so that's what I did and it worked it worked tremendously for us man I mean you know I finally hit something that I knew was automatic gimmick in my show and people would think the women was on their feet everybody was barking and everything so I said man I'm put this on my album my next album my second album and then it ended up being the title of the album well from a UK perspective you know your shows have always been even the first tour was so well received you know you were huge on the on the underground scene particularly first in the UK I'm sure you would love to support you received over there oh you a lot of love it was it was amazing yeah I can't explain the feeling over there man I mean everybody was like I felt like man what is this is Michael Jackson standing behind me and when I turn around here there you know that's how I felt because they were screaming up some nice I didn't know what they were screaming at you know but they was telling me man they just love you man and and it just really made me feel good and inspired me to go in and even come up with another album okay before we talk about that other tour the second tour you did over there let's talk about the tracks on 12-play because the first time I interviewed you we talked about your body's calling and bump and grind being almost like signature Tunes for the 90s like Marvin's let's get it on was in the in the 70s and do you feel you I mean at that point after you had the sheets got that vibe man almost then you came with you know the sex the kind of more sexy angle and you became a sex symbol how did you cope with that that whole instant boom it career escalated and you're a sex symbol as well well I started saying things like um I can hear someone over there calling me Oh crowd will just go crazy then I walk down there I can hear someone over there calling me ohoho and they go crazy this before body calling was even the was born you know and look gimmicks like that in Krakow and it was just amazing little gimmicks that work that I was doing on my show I never thought that I would take it into the studio and say okay I make a whole song out of your body called it your body's calling me but that's that's how these songs came about and and I think as the more I started doing that the more I started deciding well I'm just gonna start saying what I feel because I would always say on my stage do you mind if I say what I feel right now they would love it and then I say what I feel see I'm feeling kind of horny right now and they would snap you know and but that's what I would feel and I'd say what I feel people appreciate me keeping it real with him and everybody wants to know what you really feel I think you're known they want to know what you really think it so I was giving him what was on my mind and on my heart at that particular time you reckon you find your niche there really at that point I mean it everybody a lot of a lot of R&B artists were trying to do that kind of thing that you kind of did it just that bit better well I think because after I started doing a lot of people would follow if you don't mind I mean a lot of people follow in a humble way I say that but you know you know it's a difference when you when you mean it you know you do it when I came up with it it came out of me from my belly and I did it because that's what I felt and that's what was on my mind a lot of other people when they when they did it they were inspired to do it and it's a difference you know it's a difference and who created the light book and then who turned it on it's a big difference people doing it because they knew it worked yeah I mean I was at Wembley Arena when you did that call-and-response thing and that year like ten thousand people instantly giving you that vibe back so that's a clue until so how you write some of your songs because we're going to talk about this later about your songwriting and how you said you fed from the crowd and you went back to a studio and then you wrote a song from what you from your experience in that moment there it's a it's a it's at one of the key ways that you actually write your material yeah that that's for them not for the most part but I would say 30 percent of it you know when I'm out there you know because I'm always throwing out I'm very spontaneous on stage and every night is something new every night I may say something that that and it's a smash and if it's a smash I'm gonna keep it throughout the tour you know I'm saying man everybody goes crazy when I go oh no no no no no what that was just something I tried on the show and it was such a great response that I decided to do it in a song where did you feel you were going to go from that point you came off the tour you just heard success with the album were you just excited about the future what did you think it was next what were you kind of nervous about hanging on bumping Cromer's it's a bit biggest gonna be record 30 years on the R&B chart and you know people are saying this is great this whether I go from here yeah always nervous Mamaw I'm a nervous wreck and buttocks it's an exciting type of nervousness I'm excited to do it again but I'm nervous because I'm like man can I do it again you know I believe but you know it's hard to do sit in one room in Chicago in the studio and read the minds of millions because that's what you're doing you know when you write any song you know you're writing it to put it out but hopefully people will go and buy it hope hopefully people will love it hopefully people will come to the concerts because of what you thought in that little bitty room and you know I'm trying to read the minds of millions you know because I want millions to pack in and millions to go buy out and millions to love my music so you know it's a pressure man it's a pressure but I welcome it because you know I love pressure and I love my music and I know if you love something you do it's going to show we're talking about reaching millions of people and reaching millions of people also through the voices of other singers which is something that you've proven that you can do as well I mean the mark of a truly great songwriter and musician is when they can work with somebody else or for somebody else at that point you you became known as our Kelly the great songwriter as well because you work with everybody that the matters in R&B it was that way if you alleviating that whole pressure it just it's me me me I'm going to write a song for this person that person right person or they just ask you and say man we need one of your songs for our albums it was it that whole area at that time there for you was like so exciting yeah it was very exciting because I love writing for other people I love taking my music in a transforming into that person that I'm working for you know for instance Toni Braxton I would give I was just telling some buddies today I would give Toni Braxton I wouldn't give Toni Braxton or you are not alone and that's the exciting thing about my music that's the exciting thing about that's the most thing I love about my music because when I write get the right for people I get to become them and they don't understand how I do it but I do I understand that I totally submit to who they are and I respect them so much and then I'll just give them what I feel they would sing you're not alone Toni Braxton could have never sung that song it was just so perfect for Michael I feel and the same thing with anything else I've done for anyone I try to write I just try to pull out of them what I feel they should do also one of the favorite songs on the show last year was get out changing faces such a are going to put every woman who's ever been for anything like that totally understands that and that the ability to at you a woman would have had to have written that song surely you know that that's what's most impressive how did you say about write and get out well I've seen a woman through that situation I've seen a woman through that situation I mean you some some things you don't have it doesn't have to be done to you but it's some things that you can do to others that can inspire you also and that particular thing I happen to do to a woman I've sent enough women through enough problems in my past that I know what they're talking about because they always screaming in my ear they need to spend time more time they think I'm cheating around which sometimes I was I mean sometimes but if I go a lot that happened you know and I'm human that happened I made bad mistakes so and through my music it's my way of saying I'm sorry it's my way of saying I'm trying to be better it's my way of saying forgive me you know it's my way of saying let's make love and just make up but the great thing about is if you're real out there and people are being honest they can really relate to it you know you've got a track on your new album which we're going to throw to call one man I love that track because any guy who's being out with any girl is being out with another guy can absolutely appreciate what you're saying in this track can you just talk us through this tune well um one man was um something on this album that I put on there it came to me I said that I was gonna let this album come to me this particular I'm I wasn't gonna go searching for anything I was gonna let it come to me and this one man came to me was like my second song you know out of the 28 or 29 songs that's on this particular album this was like the second song and I wrote it from a situation that I had been through of course and in situations that a lot of brothers had been through I don't even remember those what's weird is I don't even remember how I came up with one man because the title is so far to the left and how you would come up people you say one man people would not know what what you mean so I use the end up saying well one man can make one woman hate all men that's not not a negative statement it's just a true statement you know and any woman that hears it be like you ain't Lyons you show right about that you know y'all can make us just hate all of y'all and I was basically saying but don't give up on us you know what I'm saying don't let what happen in your past mess up our future because I've gotten with girls and I'll take them out to the show or something they won't even let me open the door for money man what are you so mad at I'm a gentleman I'd like to open the door for you and this is how that's okay I got it what did you mad at you know who's hurt you while I was dealing with this other guy what that's not me that's him and I've been in enough situations like that was pretty much easy for me to come up with some like one man let's say one man sir radio one that's a great song I left that song damn I want to talk a bit more better songwriting process again because that was one man from r.kelly from his hot new album ah it's going to get r-rated I'm not sure which one to cook it now really all rated already rated R but it's all real anyway I'm with our Kelly we're talking about his new double album which is incredible I have to say and just talking about some of the tracks and his his ability to write songs and how he writes songs you are known as a workaholic a just a total music man much in a way Prince it was known for at the 80s or somebody who just always wanted to make music are you obsessed with making music is it an obsession is it just with use it mm yeah what I would say I used to be obsessed with writing and making music now man it's such a it's who I am now it's like I walk it you know married to it it just comes to me I don't even mess with it anymore I used to sit down to the piano and try to figure it out it how to try to figure out what my next song is and try to write it but man is so on them is so so nature now man it's just when I wake up or sometimes I wake up out of my sleep and there's a song I get awake awakened by song you know it messes with me sometimes it just haunts me you know sometimes and not welcoming with open arms I love it but it's just it's just like you can get hitting a certain spot on your body so much it becomes numb so that's how right knee is for me man is just I feel like it's just just as I breathe has it got anything to do with how tough your background was just being just you know just you know a Fred interview saying that you did enjoy you know growing up in the center up there are parts of growing up and you didn't drop it you us you know you had a single parent you know you had brothers it must have been tough is that what drives you want is that what keeps you mentally totally focused on winning winning winning big time yeah and plus I've always been faced with out-of-this-world decisions and big situations and crazy [ __ ] situations I've been through a lot you know crazy stuff in my past of course I love [ __ ] sitting on the porch though with my mom and my brothers and sisters and listening to our green or Donny Hathaway or Stevie Wonder or something like that just block parties and things like that but other than that I've been through a lot I've seen a lot and I believe the depth of your struggle determines the height of your success what you've been through creates a passion for what you're what you're going what you're preparing yourself for and and in this particular situation music was something that I was doing in music affects the world it's when you hear jazz you feel jazz you hear blues you feel bluesy you know you feel Church you want to cry you know you hear but I do feel that me going through all the things that I've been through in my life has a lot all the way up to now has allowed me to be able to write like I do that's why I feel like my songs are like in 3d you know it's like the world like right at you you know and I don't I try not to cut corners so like Michael Jordan and I have to say I didn't say like Michael Jordan in the way that he's quite a perfectionist and he doesn't like losing right and and things like that do you get I mean you're working with sparkle now which I'd like you to talk to me about but also do you get slightly frustrated if somebody doesn't have the same you know get up and go that you have I mean how is it how'd you find producing them right if somebody likes Sparkle for example do you have to tell her you've got to do this you got to do that well first of all I do I get very frustrated you know that's maybe bad maybe good I feel it's good on my part you know because that's how Miss McGlinn work that's how she was with me she would get frustrated and hit me in my stomach do what else yes do to get me to sing the right way but I get very frustrated with with um with people that I try to work with and because I know I'm giving them two or three hundred percent I'm giving them my all it's the same thing I would give for me I give for those who are right now sometimes even more you know because I'm on the outside looking in and that's a plus for me with sparkle her particular situation it was the same way I gave her a choice no choice you know and told her she had to sleep on the couch and she had to show me you know that that this is what she want and her being a woman if she did that I never told her but if she did that that would really be a plus for her because she's a woman you know get women find too many women that's willing that comes just sleep on the couch to make it to get into this business it's better than sleeping on the couch than sleeping in a bed you know because that happens also in this business but that wasn't her cake she just had to sleep on the couch and wait for me to wait - a song come to me for her and when it come you're gonna get up off the couch and going into the mic and sing you know and that's pretty much how her whole album came to be via diem is this isn't a site many many top R&B artists from the states sometimes tend to ignore Europe a little bit because this is a tough market you know it's not as fruitful as say America you have to work ever so hard for the less reward is that is it's do you do it because you just want your music to be felt everywhere would you do it I don't know do you do it because you'll be forced to by the record company yeah definitely depends on what you're in this for you know and like I said earlier I'm in this for the love I love what I do and I and it just amazes me that 12 years ago I was in a basement of my girlfriend's grandma's house rehearsing and writing songs and those very same songs here twelve years later someone in Europe is singing that's amazing to me man and it's it's just touching to me man so when I go over there you know is you know it just it just touches me man so that's why it's important to me to go over there and sing and and it just hit people think my music and don't know English and they just sing and sing new track so for your new album rated R which is a we're here and we're talking about we spoke about some collaborations earlier there's one that stood out straightaway as the meeting of two of the you know huge performers out there at the moment and one that's not particularly from your genre Celine Dion mm-hmm it's just about a matter of two two great singers collaborating or is this something a little bit more cynical or is this just something more organic it's something more than me being a NR a little bit well this is a very special song you know it's a very special song it's called angel that I wrote and uh as I was singing it and writing it and I got done with it was missing something and I realized that it needed a I wanted a female voice with it you know and I thought about Celine and wretch out and I was very shocked beyond is that that that we got a response quick response and that she would do it and everything and we went to Canada and lay the vocals and I was amazed and it came out amazing a chance of a future single oh definitely oh definitely and a worldwide smash no that could be one of your biggest yet yeah faithfully I'm that's what we're you know everybody is saying in the company they loving the song but the amazing thing about this album is you can go from a duet with Celine Dion to a cop with Keith Murray for example there's total homeboy you know and on a track call home alone yeah when you get rid of the creativity and the collaboration the thought of who's who were all human you know we're all on the serve together and we all breathe the same air so you know but everybody have their own style and that's what I'm trying to get people to appreciate when they hit this album don't just think well now he got his that another and then now he's with her and he's with him you know but just think of it that way we are all human so we the collaboration that's what it's about you know well let's say a bit like collaboration with Keith Murray this is home alone dude yep um I still have at least one more track off the arm I think before we leave the album is you like to etc as well little about a session oh yeah yeah okay it's ready I won the Rhythm Nation Sunday evening with our Kelly going through rated-r his new double album I'm sorry it's just up okay sorry sorry it's got so much you made sorry on the reservation with me Trevor Nelson and our Kelly plane tracks from his double album are and it's a hot one that was Keith Murray home alone with our Kelly and we spoke about collaboration with Celine Dion and let's talk about another track on your own etc etc that's very interesting track because when I was writing it I didn't have a hook for it I wanted to talk about so many things I wanted to do with my girl that I couldn't fit it all into the chorus so I ended up saying and you know etc instead of like you doing a conversation and then I don't know where I started thinking about how you make love and then you go to the IHOP and that's why I put that in the in the bridge of the song but the whole base base of the song is I want to do this I want to do that and etc etc etc you know so that's how that came about cool really happy something does fantastically well for you I'm sure is I think it's a landmark album again notice the verse cease to amaze me verb it's musical it's music totally the future whew music related things and you know you financially secure now really is there anything outlandish that we don't know about it you may begin in 200 music no I don't believe that for me I think there must be something lurking there to do the face in everything it didn't work I don't believe that for a minute man there's a lot of things that I'm trying to do I just can't really get into now but you know you guys are you know find out eventually but my whole thing right now is and this is the truth my whole thing right now is music and trying to get myself to a situation where the world knows my name and knows my music and then I'll go down to history it's a thing is it this whole American thing would be the best you can be because you're a perfectionist with your songwriting as well only so have you not completed the course yet for yourself no I have it no it's still a lot more to go with I still have a lot in me to come out I can't say any more tonight really kill it oh yeah yeah am i sir yeah we're just further in okay we know we can tell from your music the kind of artists that have inspired you it's the ice leaves and the Marvins and stuff it's it's there near what about contemporary artists that you might admire as well hmm I add on as far as weight doesn't just have to be in the arm B field it could be any any field I mean are there are there any is anybody out there you think well I'll do that slightly different if I worked with that person you know you haven't worked with everybody you've worked with you you know you know I'm saying I'm always saying that I'm always this like I say I listen to a song or see a movie and I'm always critiquing even my stuff I'm always saying you know not critiquing not saying that it's wrong but always you know my remix freak I love remix and things I love changing things around so when I hear a song out there or boys to men you know I would hear something something they doing I love their voices and everything and I say oh man I would have put that there oh man or change that for remix you know I would think of things like that I do that all the time you've been involved in a few remixes you recently on the Wycliffe yeah I was surprised that you won that remix actually been on the original but on the remakes is was that just a phone call to favor or you know I just mean him being in the same studio in the same building and just tripping out all night and I was in the studio hanging out with him and uh and we had to track up and there's winning there to the mic and did it and it kids just he put it out you know that's how that happened he's a typical example of what what can just happen overnight for people because you know again he's a nice who was keeping it very much real with his with the first album and then they kind of broke into a more commercial thing yeah and and have had huge success and then the power that gives you to do what you want to do that's right and which is proven with with your success as well and what you want to get into so so alright one question I haven't asked you is your lifestyle it is quite obviously quite grand compared to what it was but I know it's that there are times when I feel that you you miss the innocence and the hunger possibly you know when when it was tough when it was hard you know yeah I mean I do I all the time even now I miss that I really do I miss but see that's why my songs are what they are because I don't forget where I come from and I miss it every night and day where I come from and that's why there's a certain humbleness about my music and what I do is because a lot of people sometimes they forget all about that they don't even want to think about that dishrag and on the floor and that small one-bedroom apartment they don't want to think about but I actually miss it you know I actually get to myself and wish that man I sometimes I roll down the street and I say you know what I'm gonna give me apartment right over there and give me a studio apartment because I just want to do that because it feels good reminds me of my mother reminds me when we were one family so that's very important to me that's why I'm really this house is the sort of isolation that you get because you are now at a certain level and around a few people that are at that level with you does that does that make eating that much harder - how can I put it to write songs just from the heart because you're clinging on to that that feeling of the past that keeps you you know I'm saying you say you write songs and you can get that emotion out of you because you've been from the school of hard knocks you know is it is it hard to keep clinging on and sometimes does it mess with you you know just thinking because the bad things come up all the time yeah it does it hurts sometimes actually when I when I be around other guys or girls my friends that are not as successful as I am and they don't do what I do there is regular nine-to-five or whatever they do and and I look at all if I go to an old girlfriends house to see her grandmother because we were closing and and I it shows me how much I've been groomed and how much I've grown and and it's enough to make you crack because they just it just hurts sometimes well yeah that's definitely a good way and vivid yeah if you lost her what would you do but maybe curious oh no yeah if if if I pull the rug from beneath your feet tomorrow and you fell flat on your back and you were more or less penniless again do you think you're strong enough to to continue living or continue with what you're trying what you've been trying to do with your life or well I couldn't answer that question because that thought is so far out of my man and out of my reach that I wouldn't even I wouldn't even I would advise anybody not to even well not even think on anything like that because I just couldn't I wouldn't imagine it because I've worked too hard to get to where I am I work too hard and I still continue to work hard I work just as hard now is I work to get where I am now to inspire you to do that way something somebody else is for you to be like that other people you look at and you say that girl that woman is showing me the way mmm no Maja's is just something in me that that's just continuing to drive you know when I think of me I think of the Titanic not in a sinking way but when it was it was sailing I want to mention one other person before we were in the interview and that's Michael Jackson who is a veteran of this industry and a record selling artist of this industry and I you know I read that when you worked with him you were bit nervous at first but the moment you got into it you just thought yeah this is this is what it's about you know what was that possibly you're in recording and working with somebody else was that probably the pinnacle of your career so far yeah that was a big big big big pause moment for me you know and Michael stepped in the studio and or even asked me to write a song I mean at the point that he did it I never thought that it would happen even though Miss McGlinn told me a long long time ago to Michael Jackson's gonna ask you to write for him one day and I was just laugh at that because that's so funny to me because I don't believe in all of that psychic stuff man I just don't get in all of that you know so and when she said it you know I couldn't believe it and when he asked me first thing I thought about was her and I said but I'm still not gonna be I mean this has got to pass before I can say you know I've done this and uh when I did the song when he came into the studio yeah I was overwhelmed nervous and all of those things but I was professionally that way I was up I wasn't so nervous I would think when he came into the room but once I once he came into the room I went in the bathroom and fainted and kind of fell out then but then after that I came back like it was no big deal he was here and we continued to work you know offer some Chinese food you know the whole night you know things kind of smooth out after this move out after that well the result was the result you could have dreamed for but with survivors out yeah yeah oh definitely so you left the mark yeah okay great oh yeah outside for Michael Jackson is there anybody aside from you've worked with already that you'd love to work with yeah I got a couple of songs that I just wrote like three weeks ago for golf books hopefully you know hopefully that happened he returned a call yeah you never know anyway our Kelly it's people believe Avery it's been fantastic talking to you meeting you again it like we'd like to set up in the album's fantastic and what you're saying that it stays it's another piece of art and I wish it you know if you've got message fit for you European fans just please tell them what to expect well I'll tell them to I don't want to tell me expect the bomb album because I want them to be the judge of that I don't know that when I make it over there but I would like to tell them to keep their hairs up if anybody struggling musicians is trying to make it keep God in your life first believe that you can believe that you can and that's the only way you're gonna do it you gotta have take that negative energy out and thinking and don't let anybody tell you that you can't because if you can think it if you can do if you can see it then it can be done it's just up to you to believe that

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Length: 45min 8sec (2708 seconds)

Published: Wed Jun 05 2013