Priscilla Shirer: Uncover the Secrets to Hearing God's Voice | Women of Faith on TBN

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the outcome of obedience is always freedom and victory wow and it's hard to see that from this perspective but if you trust God if we trust God then when we sense that conviction of the Holy Spirit to not say this to not buy this to not eat all of this to restrain ourselves it's because there's freedom Discerning the voice of God today we're going to unpack that so why is this subject matter something that is really important it is important because this facet of our faith is what separates our faith from every other so-called faith on the face of the Earth okay that our God Lives he's alive and he speaks to us we have an actual relationship with him and that that's so casually thrown around this whole relationship thing but what good is any relationship if nobody's talking to each other if there's no communication if there's not um a connectedness that is ongoing and continual so this issue of Discerning the voice of God first of all believing that he does speak but second of all trusting in the fact that as his kids we have the privilege to actually discern and just have a distinction of his voice between all the other voices that also want to get a word in edgewise that's something that really can change and transform the trajectory of your entire Christian experience okay let's let's lay a little bit of the ground rule in your in your world we're you're our guest today you and Jerry uh Jerry jump in anytime you want to you're much bigger than I am you can jump in anytime you want and you know you're a miracle worker that you got him on this so Jerry doesn't want my buddy we're gonna we're gonna discern the voice of God let me ask you a question in the Priscilla Jerry world yeah uh does God Speak audibly does he only speak through his word does he speak how how what are the different ways that you certainly know of that God speaks to you um I've never heard the audible voice of God babe have you I missed something I have not no no not yet but I think there is something internal yeah in you that you that you feel the presence of God and it lines up with scripture which confirms okay this is what I'm hearing that's right so the holy spirit of God illumines Scripture the book is alive and he causes the the old presets of scripture to have a now-ness and a newness that applies and intersects with our personal experience so as Jerry mentioned the holy spirit in US confirms and corroborates and connects with the the word of God and causes it to intersect with our experience so that that verse that has something to do with David and Goliath all of a sudden it's not about David and Goliath it actually applies to what you're facing right then in your life and you understand it as a directive straight straight from God and then there's the conviction you know the conviction of the holy spirit that that green light of ease and peace that says go that that yellow light of warning and an easiness that says hold up a minute till you get clarity and then that red light that is a straight up no there's no peace there's confusion there's dissension that's the holy spirit's way of telling you no don't go there there's a better yes for you if you'll just wait and be patient have you ever heard the still small voice of the Lord in a phrase and an impression what describes some of what is in Discerning the voice of God how how the Lord speaks or how this conversation unfolds with you yes well most of the time through his word it is exactly what I described it is reading through a portion of scripture and on that day it's like the Holy Spirit has taken out a highlighter and has highlighted this verse you have seen a million times before but on that day it leaps up off the page and it grips you that's the only way I can really describe it is that it grips you in the depths of your soul and causes you to pause for a moment because it seems to be literally speaking to something that's happening in your life most of the time that is the voice of God we have discounted I think the power of scripture because if we say we want to hear from God and we never actually read the love letter that he wrote to us we don't want to really hear from God and we rarely will because the Canon of scripture is not only it not only provides the boundary into which everything God says to us will fall because he'll never say anything that manipulates the scriptures or his character as revealed in the scriptures so it not only gives us the boundary but it also provides for us the number one mechanism through which we have the privilege to hear him in the first place beautiful you know I have been sitting or standing in a place before and from one moment to the next uh you know I I hate to be so secular but remember that remember that that moment in on TV back when we were kids do you remember remember um the I Dream of Jeannie where she'd kind of do like that you know okay so uh I have from one moment to the next I mean this is like one heartbeat to the next heartbeat I'm remembering some kind of conversation that was a longer conversation for instance and I felt like that was something that got communicated to me a big subject matter communicated to me in a blink yeah so what the voice of the Lord sometimes feels like to me is like I'm remembering a conversation not like I'm talking and and going Hello Lord and he says well hello Matthew it's nice to have you here with me today you know okay so I've never had any kind of an experience like that at all every time I felt like volumes of information get communicated in a in a in a snap of a finger and then it just feels like you're remembering when we're done with this conversation today and we're out of this studio we'll be able to remember this conversation and we will be able to ultimately think back on it that's that is a way the Lord has communicated I have heard the still Small Voice say one word to me or two words one time Hillsong Channel um six months later the Hillsong channel was on the air yeah okay uh we're sitting here today Lori and I um you know have often heard the story but just just because of what we're talking about and I wanted to set a little bit of the stage and by the way what a thrill to have you guys seriously I mean it's big it's like I've known your parents and I was like what's the matter with us man I mean so we met actually at TD Jake's church not long ago sat behind us and made us laugh through the whole time I'm sorry for that I was cutting up and the kids thank you for sure thank you for that because they were like okay when is this gonna be over you realize you're making fun of a TD Jake service yeah it was it was a map and just so that they wouldn't freak out I gave him a little money kind of bribe in them okay anyway uh so search for me one okay so one of the the things that I think is pretty interesting about Discerning the voice of God again it's our love gift uh this month gift offer this month is my mom and dad were working for somebody else in the 60s it was a TV station and after one very successful night they were leaving the parking lot and the Lord said I've released you from your work here now my parents believe it was almost like one of these moments where you look in the back seat make sure that somebody's not in the back seat but they were in their car and my dad didn't recall it as being an audible voice but it might as well have been because he looked at my mom and said you're not going to believe what the Lord just said to me and she said no I will he said the same thing to me he's released us from our work here very very unique thing they quit that job I'm 11 years old my dad doesn't go to work anymore this is you know here in Southern California in the early 70s and then a few months later praying the Lord said had to say these words somehow because my dad heard call Angel Lerma it was a gentleman that owned a TV station here in SoCal he called and he said uh to he said to Angel he said I'm just calling you today checking on your Channel and there was a long pause on the phone Paul I just came from the boardroom we just had a board meeting just now we just voted to sell this channel did you know that and he said no sir I didn't know that but based on that I'd like to come see you by the end of that day there was a deal worked out which was the birth of TBN which was this channel here in Los Angeles Channel 40. channels actually change now because of digital but that was channel 40 back in the day so here's the here's the thing we're sitting here today because of a couple of moments that the Lord was wanting to communicate to someone to see if they would respond to it okay so now 40 something years later we're sitting here there's 31 television networks on the air in 13 or 14 different languages and we are literally ultimately uh now communicating to the globe as we're sitting here okay yeah so if everyone can realize it's kind of an important subject that we're talking about okay okay and so if everybody moved on something that God spoke to them there it is you know take another generation what would that become what exactly what God had done if we would have obeyed at that and we've had that we've had that in our life I'm thinking about when we first got married babe where you've had these these moments where like you said they're it's almost like a huge conversation that has already happened and the wealth of it download it just downloads to you in an instant um and one of those things happened when we were married for our very first year of marriage very first year what happened we were at a uh a family reunion on my father's side of the family and uh I remember one of my cousins said Jerry do you realize that if you and Priscilla don't have any boys the Chardonnay will die with you I'm like and I looked around I'm like wow and at that moment I felt like the Lord said to me Jerry you have nothing but boys wow and so I looked at Priscilla and I told her what I said you have nothing but boys we have nothing but boys and I remember when our first son was born Jackson a boy uh the Second Son Jerry Jr a boy and it was so funny the third child everybody you know oh the way she's carrying it it's a girl it's a girl I'm like no it's not it's a boy and everybody asks me how confident was I that I knew that it was a boy wow and I told him years ago the Lord told me I had nothing but boys because what he's doing is starting a new generation wow I'm Shire men wow and I remember being in the delivery room and uh uh when when when Jude was coming out and his head was out uh I said oh I bet you a thousand dollars that's a boy the doctor said we haven't seen everything yet I said if that's a girl she's gonna be with me for the rest of her life that's a boy but you know what and some of the details of that that you have to know is that some of the well most of the men in Jerry's Legacy did not live well they didn't honor God they didn't stay with their wives they didn't honor their kids nothing and so in that moment where he felt like the Lord said that to him he really felt like the Lord was saying I'm doing this on purpose I'm going to dinner I'm going to change what it means to be a shire man wow um through this Legacy and he looked at me just barely into our first year of marriage and said we don't have boys God's doing this on purpose and here we are 18 years later with our three boys and so we have high expectations that God's got a plan for them he does um and you don't have any plan for any more kids we actually do not you know she always says she always says from this stage our youngest is Jude because that's as close as she can get the Revelation because it is finished it is finished stay in the line right there oh gosh okay so start us out on um because I know so many people wonder oh you know how can I hear God's voice for ourselves and I trust it or trust or trust it how can I trust God's voice when I do hear it is that really him is it me is it yeah well let me let me just start by putting a little Grace over this entire situation the reality is that sometimes you do not know until hindsight that what you heard was the voice of God there you go and the reality is that there is grace and mercy to cover our missteps and that the Lord in his graciousness toward us his knowledge of our Frailty and our Humanity for the Willing heart who desires to do his will even when we make mistakes he allows them to become our greatest teachers for hearing him correctly in the future he does not hold it against us because we've misstepped along the way so um just Grace for those of us yes who have ever heard God wrong and wish we could get it and get it right one of the people I sort of interviewed when I was first writing that book many you know over a decade ago now I interviewed Henry blackaby who wrote Experiencing God yes and I you know had my notebook out my pen I was going to take a seminary class from Henry blackody you know and I said how do you know when you're hearing God and he gave me lots of incredible answers to that question but really he summed it up this way he said The more you know God the more clearly you can hear God there was really nothing for me to write down because it boiled down to Priscilla it's simple he said The more you know him the more clearly you can hear him so the reason why we go to the scriptures the reason why we have quiet time the reason why we fellowship with other believers who are going to help us remain encouraged in our faith is because we're just trying to get to know God when you know his character when you know the nuances of what he does say and what he wouldn't say because how he spoke to our forefathers because of how he handled circumstances previously with people in the scriptures who were going through some of the same scenarios we're going through now when you see his personality and his character then you know when you hear the voice of fear uh-uh that don't sound like my god when you hear the voice of your ego Pride jealousy divisiveness stepping in all of that stuff that in our flesh is also trying to get a word in edgewise we can quickly quickly pinpoint the voice of a stranger because if we know God the more clearly we can discern and divide his voice from a stranger okay now you talked about seeking God's provision and His blessings on our life and then knowing who what his character is talk about that because I found that fascinating yes so God's blessing um and I believe his Provisions are corroboration of his word to us so in other words while in the Old Testament there were external means as a primary way for folks to hear God in the New Testament and now in this time frame as well we have something they didn't have we have the Holy Spirit so the primary way he has speak to us is that he speaks to us has changed but his goal hasn't his goal is still for his kids to hear his voice so he's chosen the holy spirit of God to be the the way that we uh hear and know what it is that his will is for our life but he still uses external means his provision His blessings his aligning of Providence some people would call it luck or coincidence no it's the aligning of God's handiwork in our life to confirm that what we're sensing on the inside is indeed how he's aligning uh the direction for our life to just FB Myers a great Theologian put it this way when a big 747 is getting ready to land on a Runway well well the plane better not just be looking for one light somewhere to land better not just look for two lights somewhere to land there better be several lights that are that are aligning a Runway so that that 740 seven knows exactly to relent the bigger the decision that you have to make the more you need to trust in the mercy of God's external confirmation that aligns for you where to land that plane in your life um and and so that's important that we have external blessings provision coincidence that really shows us the sovereignty of God aligning I'll give you an example I was just telling you guys before we started um airing that I that I started to to look at this Discerning the voice of God book The material that we've been privileged to be able to develop Through The Years on the topic and I just started you know how the Lord puts layers of maturity on a message the more you grow in him aren't we so grateful sure that he lets us grow and mature and learn from our mistakes and I thought I was just starting to feel like you know it might be time especially with the the video series that we've done in regards to this it was taped 11 years ago so it kind of looks dated now and I thought we might need to do something different with that at some point this was going to be my lazy year where I just kind of sat down and didn't write too much but at the same time I started to sense that on the inside maybe we need to do that at some point one of my Publishers called to say you know let's redo the Discerning the voice of God Bible study then the publisher of this particular book called and said hey you know what maybe we're going to put a reface this and go ahead and freshen up the material here and the new insights that the Lord has given you so there were two things two lights there that kind of corroborated what I was already sensing on the inside and then Matt and Laura cross call and said you know what Priscilla we think that we would love to offer this to to people who want to know how to discern God's leading that third light wow was the confirmation for me that what it was I was sensing on the inside the Lord was very clearly clearly giving me a light bulb to let me know this would be his direction for me a number of years ago when laws were different um today um if we're hiring somebody here at Trinity Broadcasting we can say by the way you're you know TBN is a Christian organization might have noticed um are you a Christian we can say that that is but there if you wind the hands of clock back about 30 years you couldn't say that you couldn't make somebody tell you whether they were a Christian or not in in the application process it was a different rules well my dad uh when he or in the early days somebody called and Trinity Broadcasting is you know under the authorization of the Federal Communications Commission we have employees here that make sure we stay in tune with those policies and procedures and rules and all that kind of stuff we have different sets of employees that do Lighting and Sound and this and that but my dad was of course the general manager and and somebody called and my dad's on the phone Mr Crouch you have to be a Christian to work at your Channel yeah the phone in his hand he went ye and wanted to say yes and the Discerning voice of God at that point was literally he couldn't say the word yes so he went yeah and tried to say Yes again and couldn't and he said hold second put the call on hold and said you know just kind of went what you know Lord and he clicked the button back and went well sir I suppose you don't have to be a Christian to work at our Channel but you might want to be you know much like if you were applying for a Spanish language Channel you might want to know how to speak Spanish yeah and the guy went hmm well that makes a lot of sense okay I get that uh oh by the way if he had said yes I was going to file uh you know against your license at the Federal Communications Commission so my dad's you know hit over the head with a ball peen hammer from the Lord that moment was that was God having a conversation by literally not allowing him to make a mistake and see here's the thing that I love about this story about your dad and the story about your parents at the very beginning of this what I love is their willingness to not push past those moments of restraint when they sense the cat that warning that conviction to not put the call on hold but then pick it back up only to get that yes out that they wanted that he wanted to get out and that's the problem with most of us that rebellious streak that we all have that when we sense that conviction that warning don't say that to your spouse now right now that's not the time to say that to yourself you had to say the spouse thing yes you know when you're in heated fellowship with your spouse and you you know sometimes as wives we get ready because we know what we're going to say it's gonna shut this whole thing down and we're going to win this battle we plan to win the battle and then we feel that warning that conviction that's not that's not going to be healthy for the the longevity of your marriage the question is when we sense that well we push past it and say what we want to say anyway yeah wow or will we submit to the leadership of the Holy Spirit and the moment it might seem a little bit limited to losing yeah it might seem like your limit you're losing but really the outcome of obedience is always freedom and victory yes and it's hard to see that from this perspective but if you trust God if we trust God then when we sense that conviction of the Holy Spirit to not say this to not buy this to not eat all of this to restrain ourselves it's because there's freedom and victory that he's trying to lead us to okay so I'm gonna personally hold you to that when the butter cake is is served a little bit later so there's this thing called butter cake that both of you talked about okay we're gonna be talking about the holy spirit with the butter cake so when it comes to this kind of Discerning the voice of God we're unpacking this all hour with Jerry and Priscilla Shire um I have a question let me let me just let me let me say this one thing when it pertains because I want to jump off of something you're saying about marriage um I was running one day and the Lord said I didn't call you seem to be pointing at me okay this is like a Daydream this isn't like you know I mean it's like you're just trying to sound weird I'm not sounding weird because I don't want to sound weird uh but it felt like the Lord was pointing at me with one finger you know I didn't call you I called you and then he had two fingers pointing and Lori was next to me in this kind of Daydream yeah I knew I was running and I was on the side of the road and all that came home and told her and and let me tell you something that got more important the years later that this happened 20 years ago because I've always loved her but the idea that he didn't call me he called me I didn't call you I called you and she's there so I wouldn't be the me that God sees without her and so that's a good man right there so ultimately I have to remind him of that on it no no honestly she doesn't I've always known that you know so let me tell you bickering in marriage pales to comparison of just making this one statement if the Lord said that to me and he did or I felt you know again it wasn't this conversation then if I divorced her I wouldn't be divorcing her I'd be divorcing my destiny yeah now when in in light of that who cares you know yeah what kind of what kind of what kind yeah yeah let's go there immediately so so the I the idea that um you know the voice of the Lord changed my Dynamic about what marriage was 20 years ago or so I I'm different yeah you know I'm Different The Voice why is it important to hear God because it changes you change me why is it that's right it does change you you look at it guys you know what it does yeah it ruins you for church as usual oh hey it ruins you yeah that regular Old Mundane Christian Rita Versa day to keep the devil away sit in church go because my mama went my grandmother went this is what we do all of that goes away okay because you're hungering for what you know you've experienced before actually sensing the voice of God his presence near you listen sometimes hearing God is less about having a specific word and more about just a Nearness of his presence just knowing that he's near I'm talking about where your physical body responds to the presence of God there are times when you know he's near because he's omnipresent there are times where it he manifests himself in a way where the the hair on the back of your necks can't stop kind of fail Goosebumps yes and in those moments once you start sensing The Nearness of God in that way you're ruined for all just doing stuff because it's what you're supposed to be doing and you want more of that and I think what a lot of people need to understand and he also speaks through his silence wow very much so you know I'm not saying anything you know think about the years in the world where you know from the old to New Testament he was just silent yeah and his silence means stay still don't move I got you yeah
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