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now have i caught anyone unawares can you all hear me five minutes early i know but i've just been chasing my butt for the past three quarters of an hour but i'm ready to go so if someone can give me a thumbs up or a yes that would be good until such time well done douglas thank you so in that case you've only got me to look forward to tonight because scott's away andy's tied up for a little while so i've done it before i'll do it again so in no particular order it's hello to me oh god i'm at the top douglas mungum peter cochran douglas mungum lawrence bagasia barry chitty david nickel david nicholl mid-afternoon here scorching hot thought i'd come in and call and learn a thing or two well hopefully you do dave and that looks like current no james crawford that's currently all the guys that are in i'm not going to start for a little while but i'm here if you want to have a a wine or a or anything asked a few questions would worm paul's just dropped in now i will be running this chat on my own for a fair amount of the time so if i miss a question i do apologize in advance but i've only got the one the set of eyes hi rob cp and they will be concentrating on what i'm doing paul heighten the grisby turner good evening to you no you're not late i'm a tad early because i'm doing it on my own at the moment so apologies from rich but he has put up a a post and i've stuck one up quickly steve scott hi mate just uh apologizing and saying come over and you've obviously all found me thank you very much so for those that sit on the corner of the city until it's exactly eight o'clock i will wait for them don't want them to miss out although you don't miss out because you can go back and you can watch it over and over again if you're so inclined and the more times you watch it over we'll go into it the more times it strikes as a hit which is good for me have i ever turned rhody dandrum just been given some well paul rhodey dendron for some people can be an absolute hi kiddo the reason i say that is because the sap in it is very toxic i know a good friend of mine club turner who was given some and uh he turned it wet and uh he couldn't see for about three weeks his eyes were like piss holes in the snow where the sap got in so just be aware that it's not the easiest thing to turn safest thing to turn when it's wet full snorkel diving gear and the lot would be a good idea for that when it's dry it's not so bad but apparently but if you do get any dust in your eyes it does reactivate the sap so it's not one that i would race after and it's not everyone that gets the same results from it but just be warned if you look up on the wood databases and places like that you will find it's not one that that many people put up and for that reason tony smith good evening to you peter kelly oh you're awake mate god that's unusual for you to be awake and watch me in an evening janet just kicked you said get out you lazy sod right it's 8 o'clock so let's make a start and i know that's what you guys have come over here to say not me rabbiting away mulberry it's what i cut so i know it's mulberry it's quite yellow there is a bit of bark on that side and there's a bit of bark on that side so literally all i've done is put a face plate ring on there and that will go on the chuck in a minute i just see a query have you ever used star bond if so where do you get it from um paul star bond as far as i'm concerned is too bloody expensive to use it's super glue unless anyone can prove anything different the only bonus is they do it in colors or they do it in black i'm not saying it's any better or any worse but it is expensive so if you can get it and you want to use black super glue fine if you don't need black super glue for the cheap and i get this over here on ebay where are we i get that for three tubs of that and that's 50 gram tubs for just under 10 pound now just be careful what you're saying about him i'm here again yeah right hello i haven't done anything i've just mounted it on the lathe and i see the sea wretches popped in thanks guys for covering me last minute no it's no problem rich try and do that if we can uh david nichol how long has that piece of wood dried um about eight ten years so now my man's in where i know where it is yeah get rid of me i'm gonna take him off the screen because i can and i'm going to change the camera to that one all right thanks for coming in andy hope yes it was very and i just managed to get it finished just about eight o'clock so it wasn't too bad at all right i didn't promise anyone that you would be in so i said i would struggle through it if necessary so unfortunately somebody else had a meeting at eight as well so yeah i haven't said many hellos but i've just gone through the list oh you've done that yeah as far as them all i can't see what the comment is it's just disappeared and i'm not going to bother to look so if i don't mention it don't answer it nick castle it's just popped in i don't answer it put it on again andy soon bring it back up again sure yep a couple of question marks yeah or cues yeah beginning and then we'll be all right right for the aficionados out there um it is it's 10 inches wide and it's 80 mil deep and what is it it's mulberry oh mulberry all right yeah it's uh it could be quite a bright mulberry it's not too split for mulberry is it no although having said that there's quite a few shakes down there it's good it's got some yeah yeah that is actual part of one of the centers of the tree and that is one of the problems with mulberry just off screen that it does multi trunk that's the center over here yeah from this side so it come up at a funny angle anyway let's get some volume into this and see what we can mess we can make out of it i see lots of people have said hello to me so i'll say hello to them on mass if that's all right very pleased to be here and to see you and i've just about made it so no keep keeping the chat on their feet yeah and lindy said typical plumber can't work out if you want to use imperial or metric yeah that kicks away on their feet keeps them awake right we're up at about that speed which is not bad i did manage to sharpen all the gouges before i started it was helpless yeah well you know how much time i had yes how much time i had and i've got nearly a bag full of shavings off the floor from what i was doing i had to tidy up otherwise i'd have been turning down here on the floor yeah i've even cleared my workshop from this morning this afternoon and what did i see a comment that mr kelly put on there just now some people have to work you poor old bugger you don't do too bad in your shed i miss that yeah i think it was just as i was letting you in i still work mate yes did you deal with woodworm paul's question have you ever used have you ever used star bond if so where did you get it i've answered that you've answered that right okay it's just expensive for what it is it's super cool yep it is another means of finishing pens or small items if you so wish they do a colored one as well don't they but just turn the big sucker on got the little window all one on now i've got no thoughts in my mind at the moment which shape this is going it was a bit that was on the floor underneath the back of the bench and i've literally just pulled out oh that'll do now just tilt six times as i can see a little bit of the side i'm not gonna totally commit yet question from douglas among them does mulberry stay yellow um mine does but i don't put it in the window yeah it depends how much light it gets in it yeah you've got to be uh alex of warden things that's a new one yes i knew him before alex welcome hi ellie where do you hail from because we're a nosy bunch in here we like to know everything oh yes peter kelly says he must tidy his workshop because he's getting taller yeah janet keeps feeding him as well yeah the old ones are the best i made a better job of sharpening this one than the other one keep practicing you'll get good at it yeah this one actually cuts quite well i got mine right today as well sometimes they just don't go do they but i was a bit of a panic to put them on and just touch them up welcome aboard you know we we're not that fussy alex we'll have a good laugh as long as you can take a good laugh we'll we all enjoy that so there's a nasty spider emanating from the center the pith very little pith on this is sort of throws us a dark brown and then shakes all over the place but it's quite a coarse wood but it does take quite a nice finish and the sawdust comes off as almost a slurry so the center is there and it comes up through and comes out there so looking at the outside the only place any place that was a little bit iffy is just there yeah put a drop of super glue in and and we won't talk about that bit no well there's two bits missing so oh yeah it's just looking i want to get above this yeah i'm going to take another nearly half inch off of the wall and see what uh what it looks like then yeah like i said this is one of those that you can't build plans for it it's mulberry alex just got in before lynn again and rob i can hear the actual rim splitter it splitting as i'm cutting it so like most things like that close the flute off and take a lot less to that's what was chattering then let's see what that is it's black and it's dry a bit crumbly too it's it's bark it's a bark inclusion but it doesn't go through to the what will be top but all this is yes oops so that bit will probably ping out if it does do i care no no get some of this because there'll be more first well at least yeah yeah if i can get that out it looks like that's just a little cap so that's what a bradley's for i've often wondered yeah it's just stabbing your finger because you keep missing do i yes yeah so that's how big that piece was just about sitting in my hand that's on the floor now it's down in mouse territory in it it's a long way down that noise sounds familiar yeah groany croaky right so i think we can make the base a bit smaller it's going to be one of my sort of winged bowls i think i don't really want to go up too much more because of that wild bit of grain there so i want to roll the top over so yeah i almost know what i'm doing now good lord steady on it's only quarter past does be good to see somebody doing a push cut this doesn't pull that well and i i'm not a big fan of poor cuts no normal which is why i said it yeah yeah and that is with a half inch bowl gouge yep it seems to be a trend towards them these days isn't there the poor cuts it's a lazy cut well i think so i use it occasionally but not not very often yeah i use it occasionally it needs must yeah so easy enough on the weight on the cut now i'm just gently sliding off the end a question when you finish that question from brian brian watkins hello brian new name again yeah with a spell with the y as well my wife's maiden name was a brian with a y um that's a apropos nothing at all do you grind your grind your gouges freehand keith or do you use a sharpening system i have rubies in yeah hello ruby i have a tormek um chisel guide which i use on a cbn wheel so i've got the down a bit where are we i've got the tormek unit which you put your chisel in yeah i love it to a distance out 64. well i set mine at 50 and then that sits in the on my bench grinder and i use a cbn wheel on it so they're all all of my gouges are the same i can pick up any two gouges any three four gouges they're all the same angle at the nose it's just the length of the wing yep it's slightly different so if i go over to these are both half inch if i go over to a quarter or 10 mil exactly the same same angle same bit of wing someone questioned this this afternoon how long do you grind your wings um i'll grind them to suit me a specific job somebody thinks of you as an angel obviously where's that if you've got wings yeah excuse me couple more couple more questions jimmy clues said the pool cut was most efficient cut from removing bulk in a youtube video it probably is for him right the only time i would specifically use a pull cut would be end grain hollowing something like um andy and i are going to do on the 30 something flew out then the 34th of next month august when we don't go head to head but we go tall to tall the same as we did before and both do the same project and turn and chat turn and chat don't know what it was but it's something i can hit my arm yeah it pinged me arm but it wasn't wasn't drastic and then douglas mungum is asking a question which uh i don't know quite what he means but i'll pass the question on keith you know what you're going to turn shape wise who gave you the information laugh out loud uh my brain fair and we still haven't been our age or is it brain farts i think i think it's a bit of both right what i love to do now i love turning adam's in hi adam right i've already got my calipers set up just going to touch the left wing and match it up with the right wing score a little ring you can just about see it um can't do much about that i've had a bit of a fight with the cameras has it you can see a bit better there earlier on this evening to actually get them to show what i was going to be turning because they were all over the place they all got knocked and like i say this was set up last minute what time did rich bring me about five to seven and i ran just before seven yeah yeah yeah i rang you just about on seven wouldn't it that's right cause my meeting was about to start wasn't it yeah so my one and a half meal parting tool just run that in there uh where did i put that 10 mil it's gonna be one of those evenings i'm gonna end up talking to myself but don't worry about it but we won't listen it's no problem so this is going to go into the axeminster f jaws so quite a small mortise 35 or something isn't it yeah which is beautiful for this sort of thing and it's more than adequate so just run in there with my homemade scraper to give me the right angle and turn that on its side give it a slight scraping cut and that's a good i will mark the bottom center and a couple of small rings there's a little mark there so we'll put a ring there and another one there that's what marks are for a net filling them up with rings absolutely i think i'm happy with that but quite a nice finish on him straight off the tool but it's a little bit ridged which is quite often the case with mulberry yes we're on adam's turning a big old lump of chestnut half log to try and turn tonight horse chestnut sweet chestnut adam yeah it doesn't say because horse chestnut's not too bad sweet chestnut is quite coarse and aggressive on the tools but it turns all right oh yeah it turns all right that's the top of it so that angle there matches i'll use a c jaw because they're both the same so that angle there matches that angle there but this is deeper because i don't want to go to the bottom and i want to keep this end clear so with that in mind i think that answers ben's question yeah it is slightly cut at an angle on the bottom so i tend to turn it like that on the wheel so that i can get an undercut and a sharp top and then all i do for sharpening it is put it on the diamond stone and rub it over two or three times i haven't resharpened the bottom of this for two three years so i saw that one pop up right so what is it adam you've got a big supply he said it should be chestnut but there's horses and sweet chestnuts so this is just going quickly over it with a bit of secondhand 80 because it's still got teeth on it so it's not too bad and the surface wasn't too bad either so we can first attempt with 80 then we'll touch it with some 120 that's quite good look at the color around there you can just see that coming through on the camera lovely in it yeah yeah yeah now i'm standing in reverse because i can and that's taking it straight off the back down my big black hoover down the back there so i'm not getting any of it thrown in my face very little shall we say adam doesn't think it's horse chestnut so that'll be sweet chest nothing if it's sweet chestnut it'll be white whitey brown choc very light chocolate it's a light yeah yeah you'll end up with yellow flecks in it as well just a quick sand the opposite way just to knock the fluffy bits off because mulderberry is quite a fluffy wood so it's always worth it if you can to go into reverse makes it sound quite endearing give it a quick flick over with the paper door 60s good evening adore me to that one yeah it just popped up as i looked up you've probably got stream yard on you i've got stream yard yeah yeah so you get them before i do so that's that's 240. what i was about to say was hopefully you guys have all found me easy enough as it was a bit of a pantomime coming on we've got 30 people in so it's not oh well i'm not going to knock that there's a pop up from nowhere so let's get rid of a little bit of dust upside down i'm not going to fill any of these cracks i might do with a bit of wax but that's about all sanding sealer it's quite deep color on that bit yeah it's nice in there get a bit of blue roll so that i can wipe it back now it's gone canary yellow ben is still still questioning that that tool you have for cutting the mortise um i'm not quite sure what he's getting at but keith i was it i was the question why the notch is so deep from the side is it to get in small spaces no it's because i screwed it up when i first sharpened it and i had to practice it's quite funny mine's exactly the same shape for the same reason yeah it's a three-dimensional grind that you've got to try and work out on there or three-axis grind and my poor little plumbing brain didn't want to go anywhere near that i knew what i wanted but yeah david j heath is in carpenter guildford yes yeah not far away from us yeah you can shout and uh you won't need it i won't need the headset on i could hear you you're only guilford what's that 16 mile away from me something like that yep yeah 16 19 mile at the most unless you're right over the further side in the posh bit i drove through on the way back the other day yeah now i'm just going to give that a little bit of heat because it does take a little bit of time to dry my sanding sealer it's um the shellac one and thinned down with meths and i found that if i'm using gritty on it looks your grit it does need to be dry yorkshire grit doesn't like working if it's still a tad wet yeah david he says i am yes uh that i think he means he's in the posh bit in the knobby bit hey oh and hang up or hang down that's it all right look at that first time in shot how about that i got it the right way around yeah it's quite striking that yep and a bit of paper i knew that's what i wanted so liberally put it on but not too much because whatever you put on you've got to work in and wipe off so a generous coating but not over generous douglas mungum says there's a mulberry in his local churchyard it throws fruit all over the path they're messy and they douglas yeah can be we had one local and it was called mulberry close and it blew down in one of the winter storms and before i could get anywhere near it they'd logged it bless them my wife's grandmother used to live in mulberry close in horsham all right yeah i've worked in several of them around there right so rob cp says he wishes he lived in a posh area we're gonna massage this in a fairly low speed um this is about 125 i think and i can hear the difference the grip makes you got it back from amberly then yes yeah it was in the tool bag after all that all right there's very little in that pot but i have got a reserve now as well yeah some of us have to buy our own don't we yep yep although i've had one donated to me have you i really appreciate that turned up in the post the other day very nice too so we've massaged that in creep the speed up a bit yeah if you take three four minutes to work this in and wipe it off that's not a bad thing because you'll know you're doing what the grit is supposed to do yep and you can really can hear when it's doing it can you yeah yeah and i eat it what i tend to do is do a bit in forward and before i get too fast with it whack it into reverse and the noise virtually disappears of the grip working then that is virtually quiet so the worst bit on this is the bits up here you see i'm going to need to pick out the paper a bit later on or blow it out that's i knew that would happen yeah so we can live with that and there's a bit in there i'll have a quick pick at that because that looks horrible in white but uh the air gonna come out on that probably tomorrow anyway so i find the uh the the chestnut safety rook clubs are a bit better for that of course absolutely soaked now where i've got the heat in there well i haven't got the chestnut one but i've got another one that's virtually the equivalent of right now we can get a little bit of speed into this and what i'm looking for is a white cloth at the end or white paper at the end of it this one's not tearing rob from copper l says how pretty it is thanks rob it's it is a nice color this lot some of the mulberry i've seen is quite brown it's a bit like most woods you can't pick and choose can either yellow piece can either can i have a brown piece is that bit red because nine times out of ten it won't be anything like what you've seen elsewhere some of this was actually quite brown and i can show you the oxidized surface which was a plain surface when i turn it over in a minute yeah i'm still getting a little bit of marking off of that so you do get some interesting timber keith i have to say well it's letting people know what you do yeah and i always had a few bits and pieces in the van with me most of it was um cord pools because most of my work was bathrooms yeah so i had cord pools in there and get to the end of the job and look at the bit of plastic on the wall and say to the customer well there's only one thing really that's the bathroom down i don't know whether you agree but i don't think much of your call paul no you'd usually say i'm thinking of getting another one i said well you could do with a nice wooden one yeah i think that would look nice where can you get them from i said um i'm not sure go out to the van come back in and say what one something like that oh they're gorgeous aren't they yeah yeah i'd end up giving one away but at the end of the day i knew it was an advert for me as well you got a happy customer yep so and the customer was happy and they spoke about it to all their knobby friends that come round hampshire gloss food and toy safe it's the gloss hampshire sheen it's not the high gloss one because they didn't have that when i bought this so i'm not saying i've had this a long time but it's been been in the cupboard a couple of weeks you don't want too much of this but you want to put enough on that you know you've got wax on there and you can feel when you've got all the way around because the paper will start to pick a little bit as you get to the other end right don't forget to put the lid on because the amount of times i've picked out shavings is nobody's business i'm just going to gently massage this in and i'm not racing tonight guys because i don't think there's anyone on after me and i've got nothing else to do except go and sit indoors and have a beer i'll cross i think i better rush suddenly the urgency set in yeah jennifer jennifer's craft creations is in hello jennifer hello jennifer the old man out on the road tonight jennifer working hey i should probably end up buffing this because of the bark inclusions that's half my luck in it most of the papers come out so that's not too bad good and they do suggest you leave it to dry and evaporate a bit so there without an excessive amount of rush is the bottom and you can see the gorgeous colors flex through there looking forward to seeing the inside actually tough yeah so that's right okay as soon as it was cut and i just literally um stick it and chucked it underneath the bench over the back there so it does oxidize a bit but it oxidizes a lot more if you put it in under uv light right my normal procedure i've just nipped it up to the jaws i'm going to hold the chuck and just spin that around to get rid of any excess wax that might have got in the dovetail any fluffy bits that might still be left in there before i tighten it up so i know i can turn that on and that's going to run as true as you like so as normal i'm leaving the ring center on and people that follow me know that i do until the last minute so that if you do have an oops you can still remount it uh where have you hidden that it's not that one having a man guys no it's under it's underneath them all it's because i just literally tossed everything up the top there out the way all right that's my excuse didn't have a lot of time to sit and think time i found a piece of wood and jennifer says yes mark's at work again all right now i tend to go on to the edge very gingerly there rather than the scrub pull cut of coming off the edge whether i'm right or i'm wrong it works for me i don't really see the need to change it i'm going to just shut down a fraction and make a little bit of a lip see what that looks like and how it's proportioned around there i don't think it's quite big enough it isn't i need to go a little bit deeper in i know what i'm looking for now almost seems a waste putting this on the floor but unfortunately there's too many shakes in it to hold itself together to even contemplate putting a bolt over in there it's going to swap over to the small one for just a second just to put a little bit of detail on there plus it's sharp i'm not taking anything off with the camera pick up the whispers yeah yeah i can see those here yeah so that's how delicate you can be and you do need to be at times i don't want to spend a lot of time sanding i'm right over and it's almost completely closed the flute on there so rather than it being open and partially open that is virtually shearing on the bottom wing to get into that corner which is what i want so just a little bit of that there's a bit of a that's a little bit of a ring there but they won't take a lot of getting rid of uh and that is quite often the case with with mulberry it flexes as you turn it so oh sorry guys i've got a mouth full of shavings as well don't know what condition this one's in i'm just going to lightly still got a mouthful of shavings douglas has just spotted so he's well spotted douglas there are lots of little dodges you can use to hold your tools where you want them to be and to do the job that you want them to do basically what he says is what you did just did using your left thumb as a pivot point to stop the gouge jumping backwards looks good trick well you're holding it up here you can't see it so much you're holding it down there you haven't got a lot of um strength in it but i can put my hand over the top of the tool rest perfectly safe i'm holding it down and i've got full control on it and it is ensuring that you can see what you're doing and getting the the strength you need in it so yeah well the last thing i want is it it's bouncing around on the tool rest yeah especially when you're trying to get rid of a mark yes yeah neil m has just come in a late arrival hello neil i've seen the name before yes but uh that's about it obviously had a long way to travel look at that bloody mark still there still there isn't it yeah yeah okay i just the scrapers not brilliant so what i'm doing is i'm gently twisting it to use it as a skew scraper so i'm rather than it being flat i've just lifted it about 20 degrees i'm not putting hardly any weight on the wood so somewhere along the line that mark ago it's nearly gone it's pretty well gone now just there yeah just there yeah you wouldn't believe it how obstinate that's being let's suddenly become more obvious that's better oh pat cummings in hi everyone's well just in from cutting the lawn i'm gonna put that away because it's gone it's gone good yeah am i pleased not really but right now we can strip this down i had four inch eights holding this on so i knew i wasn't thrashing it so all that was hanging through the back is barely three quarters of an inch of screw but uh it works i felt safe and as long as i feel safe i'm not worried about you guys sitting that side of the screen i feel very safe over here yeah yeah yeah all right do the thumbs up it's always useful guys that didn't look very good not sure whether that was my eyes or it did jump fraction and i was looking at the chat at the moment so yeah i missed it oh but one no it's true one thing that i have noticed about mulberry is it's quite aggressive it's quite a soft wood but it's quite aggressive it does blunt the tools down quite quick whether that is just this tree whether it is universally accepted that it's a fairly coarse aggressive wood i do not know but this was salvage from west sussex along the uh salesy peninsula i had a phone call from a friend of a friend of a friend what's mulberry like for turning do you want any what size is it well we can't move it it's quite big yeah well what size is it because you're a lady oh it's about six foot long other bits it's all been cut up because it fell across their garden it's about six foot long and some of the bits are about three foot diameter harry stone it jumped so i said yeah um how much do you want for it oh it's not worth anything because it's all rotten it's okay no it's not worth anything i said it it's worth a bit for me um but the time i come down to salesy hour and a quarter and a half hour and a half in the van it's not going to be worth anything for me unless it's free so yeah you can have it for free so we did very nice suit emptied the van put the sack barrel on put the chainsaw on and pulled up out the card she said i'm not sure you're gonna move it no i said will you show me where it is first oh it's just around the corner here so we went round the corner of my life there was quite a bit of it unfortunately though i can't take the whole lot i i haven't got a wood yard to store it in and my little vanity standing on its back wheels and if i've got to go down berry hill i said that's not normally a good thing yeah well take what you can and what you'd like so we picked it over and i'm still not sure you're going to get those big lumps in your van so i said oh we've got a trade secret in there however well i'm going to go in and sit down because it's not very warm so she disappeared indoors and i fired up the chainsaw she come out about half hour later is that you with a saw so i said yeah i said it's the only way we can physically get it in the back of the van so i cut these down to about three foot cut them in half put them on the sack bearer and we had to drag them because it was quite damp which is one of the reasons the tree fell over the roots had let go the two of us we dragged him back to the van and my little mate who was shorter than me he was about he's about five two he looked at me and he said i suppose you want them in the van don't you guess now i said i'll just come down i need to cut them up and put them on the side of the road we we had five minutes we thought about it and we put one on the ground as a step and then rolled one up and lifted it over and slid it in and on the wooden floor of the van it went quite well so it's quite chuffed with that final pass with the what it was freshly sharpened here how this is bouncing it's looking better look you're what mate sorry that's looking better oh good so we just like just caught it at the bottom we could see that just a little bit of a night lamp there i think you're on the homewood oh god my mate's exploded please excuse him everybody sorry i didn't get to the mute button quick enough yes you can see it it's a bit bleached out but there's a color from the here's the back so again i'm hand sanding it because i find on this it doesn't tear it so much uh-huh it gives me a little bit of control so there's a lovely lovely piece of timber all right drop the speed down now i was given some obery once but i couldn't use it it split so badly yeah just couldn't use it at all yeah yes so i've pushed it back a bit so it's a bit closer to the big sucking outlet now like i said at the start this actually sands quite well without too much aggravation and pressure but you don't want to be thrashing around at 7000 revs it needs to be a realistic number so the paper actually cuts it i have found i'll show you in a minute nick castle's got to go thanks for stopping by nick or nick that is the problem that is sort of a waxy build-up oh yeah yeah and if you use it in power sanding you're forever changing the disc because you're running too fast well that's what i found anyway so i'm grossly teasing it out from the center just flattening off the little pimple bits that are in there but i did say it was quite a waxy wood to sand but i'm prepared to suffer the consequences of that to hell with another bit of abrasive if that's what it costs because of it yep look at that oh it's built up on there can you see it yeah yeah yes again yeah so you just you just have to do miles of it pretend somebody else has paid for it yeah they have it was me that really is quite waxy isn't it yeah so you imagine what that's like on the back of a drill spinning round at several hundred i think what i should do now is as i can go back into reverse because that tends to help it a bit i don't know what the structure of this timber is like but like i say it's it's gorgeous when it's finished but that's built up a wax on there already i haven't found the answer to it yet not every bit is as bad but i did try using uh power sander once and uh i just wondered why all it was doing was polishing it same as what this is it's just picking it up pat coming cummings asking how dusty is it you would think that the wax would keep the dust down does it it does a fraction it does a fraction but it's still you can can you see the dust oh yeah yeah on the bed it's still sticking together in lumps isn't it almost yeah it's clumping i've never tried this on here before it's abernet i'm swearing by that at the moment well i can see the dust coming through peter kelly says that why brush takes the waxy stuff off the of the abrasive yeah benjamin just said have you tried aberneth on it well the answer is yes just now is it clogging that or is it coming off no it's knocking out coming out oh that's all right it's good stuff yes yeah i was i was really surprised because i did i think it was something i'd waxed i sanded and it actually still cleared that quite amazing it's not cheap but it's good no no well this is cheap because it come from one of their ex members all right but it lasts for so long yeah it was no good berry taking himself to anyway uh-huh but you know i'm still i'm still using you know i don't if you remember when i got it it was a little while ago and i'm still using this the first lot i haven't changed it i do most of my sanding by hand so it's quite impressive so the only time i tend to use it is for acrylics if i ever do any yeah see it's built up on there now just as a single so that's 120 let's see what that's like i love adam's i love woodturning adam says better than pronet imo what does mmo mean in my opinion yeah now pronoun is bloody horrible i've i haven't tried it i've tried some i had some given me try that i've heard people say it's not as good so i've never bothered getting any it's a bit like trying to streak um sand with a string vest uh-huh i don't think i fancy that no especially if i'm wearing it yeah or it's allison's looks like that's the only abbreviate i've got thought i had some uh 240 but i haven't passed it to you yeah okay cheers delayed in the post yes yeah i haven't i'll have to go on to conventional 240 that's 120 120 240 won't take a lot because it's pretty good now and i'm not pressing overly hard so i'm holding it like this so that if the paper does get caught it'll whip it out my hand um the only bit that's touching is the very lightly underneath the thumb adam says he gets meter strips from simon hope for four pounds that doesn't sound too bad well abranet yeah yeah yeah because simon does two different ones didn't they you know and he does another one or is it oh i may be wrong on that one it may be down at taylor's murfield that does too but i know pro net as far as i'm concerned is the total waste of time there was got no integrity to it right all right done off before i turn the big sucker off i'll get rid of some of this dust getting dark out there now mate it is i think the buggy men might be queuing up outside right shut up my workshop door in a minute i think it's getting a bit i'm not getting chilly because i'm right at the further end now quite a long way off away from the door on here yeah i'm sitting just inside it mind you most of my workshops just inside the door they're all cozy yeah simon does in dessert as well as is that's a paper as well as abraham yeah well i do the industry i sell that that's right yeah and he sells the red and the and i sell the cream the gold and yeah the red i find is a bit uh caught a bit hard for bending i did a thorough investigation of all of them before i finally made up my mind this is what the club was going to stock which is what it does now and i went this way because it was more flexible fabric-backed you can cut it pair scissors sharp knife whatever you want to whatever configuration you want yep i will be able to buy it from the club again soon did you get that email thank you very much good didn't say a lot did it no no not a lot but it's looking quite hopeful for september but i think you've got a meeting coming up beginning of august haven't you uh no i'm not on the committee now aren't you all right oh you want to watch from the committee i think they've got a meeting coming up beginning of august yeah second i believe so we'll find out after that be nice to meet again well it'd be nice to see what the others haven't done yeah because i don't think there's a lot been going on nope we've got quite a few watching us but uh which is nice then he also does 115 by 10 meters for 10 meters which is pretty much the same as a meter for four pounds in it except that was 120 mil wide so fraction wider 120 115 um they're usually 115 the universal cut yep apparently all right that's toasted that aside it's dry not too warm that's what i don't want too warmth all right it'll throw me a bit of paper could be anywhere oh it's got wax on it can't use that smell it as soon as i sniff all right yeah yeah we'll start with a clean bit of paper to help with the expense give the cat a goldfish a good coating but not a wasteful coating you can always do it twice if you're not happy with the first result so you can always go over it with the micro fine yep if you're not happy with the first results right just burnish this in get a little bit of speed that's it listen to it now douglas saying it's on the floor yeah i don't think i don't think it is not this end of the workshop is on is on the floor in front of me waistbin because i threw it from this side yeah i threw it from this side of the bandsaw and the wind caught it and it took it that bleached it out too much no that's all right so because you you can see the color of it now and so can i i've been sanding in braille yes that has gone virtually quiet and this is where you guys that have never used yorkshire it haven't got a clue what we're talking about so the hissing of the grit rubbing of the grit has disappeared now now we can ramp up the volume give it a quick zap so you adam's saying yorkshire grit the critics say it blocks up the pores in the wood but then what does that what does wax do anyway yeah well there is it is bases beeswax and mineral oil which blocks the pores of the wood so you get the finish i tend to run this fairly high so now i'm going to go into reserve and do it the other way so i don't have to work it quite so long no i don't need it well it's it's not going into the wood the hissing is the sound of the abrasive actually smoothing the wood if you like burnishing it almost um sorry it just started saying is it going into the into the wood it shouldn't theoretically go into it because you've sand and sealed the wood yep to start with would you see yeah you can go straight on to bare wood with it if you so wish but then it's advisable to do it twice with the same grit i've never had a problem particularly in the early days when i forgot or i didn't think that's got a bit of heat into that now and we're going to into forward one final rub through and i can see the beeswax and the mineral oil melting into the wood that's why i threw it away last time because it's wet on the other side of the paper so i invested in a new piece of paper didn't i you've made it pictures for you i know to pull it off that's only a sheet of paper absolutely expensive all right by the road you got yards of it yeah particularly if you buy it by the big roll yeah i do and a pack of about 10 of them i think i've got them underneath the bench here all right well this this is commercial grade paper yeah yeah mine is yep um which usually come in six to a pack which is what we used to buy them at club four six to a pack one two three four it might have been six six or eight yeah it was yeah and these are 10 inches wide by 20 inches long the squares double ply and i believe it's 300 meters on a roll yeah i don't know how long the rules are on one but the double ply and they're but they're about 10 inches by 10 inches each piece now you've got the half the perforations yes yeah yeah so many different ones out there and there's a lot of people yeah so a lot of people say oh don't use the blue one what have i just used to put it on with the blue ones yeah did i have a problem no no because good quality blue one yeah that's right that's that's the uh that's the key i tend to use two sheets at a time anyway so it doesn't matter if i could have bought the ones that you have you know use one sheet but it doesn't make any odds does it but what i will say is don't uh don't buy a lot of the kitchen rolls because the kitchen rolls are very soft yeah they're all right for a final polish but they are very soft they're absorbent that's why they're kitchen rolls so what you put on the paper be it wax or anything else is going to be sucked into it soaks it in yeah because that's what they're designed for they're not designed for spreading out mopping up getting rid of wax and the like these papers aren't but they don't they're not as absorbent as a kitchen roll is so that's come off they're now clean we'll have when i just go over it one more time very little on there and we know we've got all of that off so i'm not going to put a burn ring around on the shoulder i don't think it needs it i've got a big enough shoulder on there to make it visible drop the speed right down back over to the whole yorkshire hampshire shane question from douglas are you going to make a lid for this no i think i know the answer the problem is it would never be a lid that matched the grain no because i haven't got the corresponding piece it probably wouldn't fit by tomorrow morning i don't think that would be an issue i don't think it's going to move that far if it does move a fraction but um it would need to be a complimentary lid and as this is yellow you i would be looking at something like a black or a very dark brown to make it stand out adam's adam is off by adam thanks adam thanks for coming in catch up on yours one of these days you're usually starting a bit later than what i do so i usually go into bed but then yeah sometimes thinking about it but it's sometimes a bit early oh real simple things hello paz that's it yes just come in just woken up mate or just got the kids off to sleep oh he's on my list already i was just going to make a note of his name but it's there bernie bernie bears so how many we got in 36 well that's incredible considering it's a a non-scheduled event yes it's it's a good turnout i'm sure 37 right now she's gone up one yeah i'm sure rich would be happy with the outcome that we've given him and the person who's just come in is lionel hello lionel oh yeah hello and says he's had him going or what he said he was going a while ago and he didn't david jackman's just crept in oh yes just seen that sorry for being exceptionally late he says yes he's just about finished david turn that off thanks for coming anyway yeah you can watch it tomorrow david i love winter just lets us know he's still there all right let's go on to a different camera to take these off see why i couldn't see much out of me glasses now yeah a little bit of dust on them like that got the mouse there we go what camera are we on andy that one yeah you're right yep you wanna you wanna go to the other one yeah i can't see your mouth through that one either that's better there you are better all right looks like a slightly foggy night but if i come and stand back here behind it that's better that's better you can see second you've got grains you put the dust back on please yes just being rude nothing much that's the bottom and around there is an exceptionally nice area of grain which correspondingly is in there so ruby says very very nice keith thank you ruby a quick pop-up from nothing and it was a matter of finding something that was respectable to do that's really very nice it doesn't show the color let me get rid of that one that's better oh it does show it better on there just show it better on there almost a greenish hue to it on the camera i don't know whether it's the camera it is the camera it is actually canary yellow all right on all of it it's lovely i mean it's got some interesting shades of different colors in it yep you've got the center shake which looks like a spider big old um daddy long legs sitting on there yeah some nice comments coming out so unfortunately you guys had to suffer me tonight but it could have been worse he could have had nothing and the man from the plot side of guildford said really nice keith thank you all one and all and it's not alex of wild and things it has wooden things okay i've just read it properly i don't suppose he's gonna object he's called me keith so it's fine that's right yeah we're still friends yeah so yeah david's putting in nice shape well to me that is an uplifting shape it lightens the wood no end it was it was either that one oh it was a toss-up with this bit this is a bit i started some many moons ago and took it off and that's as far as it's got all right what's that it's ash oh disasters i believe it i believe it's ash but uh it didn't want to play ball very well and it did what i needed to do i've just literally put a um a purple stain over the outside because there is an inclusion there no it's not it's seed it's a cedar or something like that it could have been that piece but i thought now sod it to hell with the expense yes give the cat goldfish yeah let's go for a and ben's put on an acceptable piece wow douglas among them question keith where is the canelli canary where's the canary yeah you can see it hiding in the bottom there can't you yeah yeah can you can you not see the picture of it and benjamin i love his being master of understatement an acceptable peace keith yeah yeah well i didn't want to do it it's an exceptionally good piece to uh upset you and annoy you ben i thought i'd just pass the the criticism as yeah it'll pass martin woody's creations is off yeah and so am i in a minute so yeah absolutely if you've got any questions bang them in there quick guys um i'd like to go and sit down and maybe even crack a beer that was the intention for tonight but it's a it's a bit late but i can i can still drink it quick oh you you can manage keith you can manage i can force myself i have every confidence in you yeah yeah it's been a busy day martin's now he's only just arrived well evening keith oh yes sorry martin evening keith i thought you were going very pleased to see you martin i thought you hadn't seen your name before welcome to the mad house yeah that one must have been the extra one that popped in as you said yes that's it it's all will be available tomorrow on the tubes you can all watch it you can all spend a bit of time gloating over the wood that i've got that you haven't yes that's another nice piece sickening in there yeah my joycon yeah when you give you're giving me some lovely pieces so yeah i'm not complaining remember i said that it does oxidize yes that's the inside cut and that's the outside that i cut with the chainsaw so that is 10 years oxidized that's quite brown isn't it almost black yeah but there was no finish on there at all whereas this has got finish on it that's right so it does oxidize yeah that might have got your name on it andy that would be lovely because it's uh i'm really impressed with that piece you just turned it's absolutely gorgeous just it's good with character isn't it you know you like anything with character really well it's not a bit of ash that you've got and you put color on it yeah yeah um i'm not shocking anybody it has its place yeah they all have their place but a bit of character would you you can't beat it no no i found another peaceful peter corcoran says thanks god for guys for sharing yeah while i was looking for that piece tonight that is just shy of 12 inches by four and that is a teak as you can see what it's bloody heavy just old almost almost like a roco but yeah yeah no it's papua new guinea antique oh is it yeah apparently or their equivalent so that nearly went on but i thought i can't do that tonight douglas is going to feel good cracking david nicholl says um i very rarely david because what i tend to do is i tend to leave mine in plank form and if it cracks it will crack down and theoretically you've got enough to use either side of the crack i mean some of my boards are 12-inch inches wide for that particularly the u and if that cracks down the middle and opens up you've got six inch bowls either side but if you hack that all off to start with and fill up all the cracks and put end grain seal on there i can't see that you can save a lot particularly if you've got it somewhere relatively cool in a breezy atmosphere no it's not iroko although a raikou might be a deep substitute it's a different iroko is quite a lot lighter rob so if you can if you can hide it way stack it away um and forget about it in a coolish area leave it in as big as you can and possibly move it to start with and then process it into smaller bits later on yep i have a problem storing big bits so i do tend to end seal mine because they are quite small and i can't afford to waste them all no um but it's also for courses isn't it yeah the problem i usually end up with that's half a log yeah so i've cut it down through the middle so i can either use that as a winged bowl or i can use it as a winged bowl the way i've just done it but that's only five inches across yep that's about the smallest i process i've got quite a few of those tucked away and that one's la burnham but i've got quite a few small bits of view but the problem is you need a lathe that you can drop the speed right down that's easy it's no good going in there at maximum revs with something like that on oh god that's a bit scary because it fires up to two and a half thousand or whatever so i'm reluctant to give any of those away to people that haven't got a lathe that will start slow because i don't want them coming back oh that bit you gave me it exploded and it's going it's embedded itself in my forehead it went through the roof yeah yeah yes i've got it i've got a fan light in the roof now i didn't want one but i've got one oh one has to be a little bit careful but it's yeah if anyone wants to chat to me you know off air that's fine um i know adam did today he had a question and several people have done in the past i'm quite happy to chat off air if you want to or you give me a buzz on through messenger you can find me on facebook robert's talking about his piece that he wasn't saying that your piece was iroco i'm just saying it to substitute it used a lot for science benches in schools rob because it's acid proof i used to get a lot of it when they were redoing the labs up at the wheeled school in billings when i was a woodwork teacher there used to use a lot of viroqua for all sorts of stuff and it was gorgeous timber but it's it's it's very durable it's quite a lot of outside um door frames are made from indoors providing it's not too big an area benjamin no it doesn't have to be but i can probably give as good as i'll get i love his imagination i like it i've got i've got my own um email address for people like you perverts incorporated um at btinternet.com if you want to touch base with me on that one ben as douglas says plus big bits are scary they bounce lathes about they can do yeah if you turn them up too fast yet like that piece of yeah that's that's another good point on there you know if you've got sharp tools and you're presenting them right you shouldn't get a lot of bounce off of the lathe the lathe is going to move it's going to shake but it shouldn't be that much so um i would say that you know contemplate looking at sharp tools or if you've got a very big piece you go for a slightly bigger bowl gouge but with sharp tools you can turn at a slightly slower speed as well yeah and i've got the got the weight and the mass in that this is an inch bar yeah so it's a three quarter inch bowl gouge in a two foot long quite heavy handle so that takes a lot of the bounce out as the timber comes down onto it but this is where so many people go wrong they go straight off the top of the rest level or just the handle down a fraction if you see me turn i will be turning at 45 degrees to the blank that's good yep yeah and i will also be turning 45 degrees to the blank the other way almost so i will be cutting on there's the camera this bottom wing as it shows there up against the timber so it's slicing it off so rather than you going in level or that way and getting a a straightforward bang as it comes down on top of the cutting edge there if you tip that you come down and you slice it off slice it yes that's the operative wood isn't it yeah slice it off yep good so that's about it we've got a haha from ben yeah i know that's a good note of physician i'm gonna hit the off button guys thank you all once again for popping over tonight um for covering for me for covering for rich and i'm sure he's happy in that it's been covered i know he wasn't happy with why it was being covered but i don't know whether he did mention that at all and i won't because i haven't had a chance to go through facebook yet but it'll come out eventually but i'm not mentioning it but i'll leave that out to him that's private so thank you guys i'm gonna go and hit the proverbial off button i will see you all oh andy's next tuesday i am um i'm not in next week unless i unless we have a panic or am i oh yeshua yes you are yeah yeah i'm doing tuesday night is doing tuesday evening so you've got me again next tuesday lunch time then guys because andy's covering for rich next tuesday tuesday evening that's right yeah so i'm doing tuesday night lunchtime and he's doing tuesday evening unless rich wants to do it next week and come back well yeah i mean that's yeah oh um so going by the timetable we've established that was that was where we would be yeah yeah so there you go guys 25 of you you're going on pour yourself a drink i'm going to i'm sure andy's going to pour himself something oh yes so thanks guys bye for now cheers bye everybody

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Published: Wed Jul 28 2021