Peter Boghossian - The New Tyranny

foreign [Music] I had debilitating back pain during this time and had to lie down during the interview thanks for understanding see we we just start with uh your name and your current profession my name is Peter burgosian and I am a founding faculty member of the University of Austin nice he recently resigned from Portland State University correct can you explain why he made that decision I recently resigned from Portland State University because the university had become ideologically captured it made it impossible for me to do my my job I I taught in the philosophy department and specifically I taught courses like critical thinking moral reasoning ethics atheism Etc but there was a guiding ideology that dominated the university making it impossible for me to discharge my duties what was the ideology the ideology goes by many names some people call it critical social justice some people call it social justice with an uppercase s and J some people call it wokism some people call it um just being woke so I I was told for example by the chief diversity officer during an investigation that I was not allowed to render my opinion about protected classes or teach in such a way that my opinion about protected classes could be known and what are protective classes I asked and she did not have an answer and that meeting was also Alex Sager the chairman of the philosophy department and the union representative Phil Lesh and I had asked repeatedly what that meant and the chair of the philosophy Department basically gave a nonsense a nonsensical answer in a subsequent meeting I asked what was I to do if someone asked me my opinion about whether or not African-Americans should be kept in Chains if I'm not allowed to render my opinion about protected classes then I'm not allowed to say I don't think so or no or that's important or anything for that matter right yeah it really limits what you can do but but it doesn't just limit what I can do because I ask them is it just me or is it everybody there are entire wings of University architecture dedicated to talking about protected classes and it was just unclear to me why I couldn't render my opinion about protected classes but yet the whole university infrastructure was geared around it in fact the president of the Portland State University said that racial Justice was the University's highest priority so uh in your resignation letter you mentioned several instances of harassment can you say what some of those were and and why they happened several instances of harassment okay well I'm trying to put this in the past hopefully this will be the last question on it uh several instances of harassment myself with big noses on campus SWAT stickers in the bathrooms SWAT stickers on my office door bags of feces by my office door being spit upon just constant constant investigation or complaint or anything to that was specifically designed to make my life more difficult and when it certainly succeeded in that and why did they do that well you know you have to you I only have conjecture as to why they do that you'd actually have to ask them was this largely students I have no idea who it was you know I I walk in the bathroom and I see a huge Swatch to go with my name on it or bags of feces by my door or SWAT stickers on my door I have no idea who did those things wow how do you feel now that you're no longer employed by the university I feel unbelievably relieved I feel fantastic that I'm no longer employed by the university I've never felt better I feel relieved I don't have as much stress I don't have as much anxiety that's why I don't like thinking about what happened in the past I want to move forward and create and build and make and leaving that position was the best thing that ever happened to me everybody had been telling me for years but I think I had a sense of responsibility because you know students would come to me and say I have nobody else to talk to and and then they would proceed to tell me completely deranged things like one guy told me that he raised his hand to to um ask a question in class and evidently a student who appeared as a minority had also raised their hand and the student and the the professor chastised the person for raising his hand at the same time as a minority had their hand up and I mean I just used to hear crazy stories like that constantly from people and I knew that if I left who who would they they speak to who could they they tell those those things I mean it was really like an insane asylum I mean truly crazy and we have a word for people who look at others on the basis of their race right we call them racists right right yeah Lyle was saying this the new form of anti-racism anti-racism is often indistinguishable from actual racism correct the new form of racism alleges to benefit people who have been historically oppressed new form of anti-racism the the well okay well that's the funny thing do you want to call it anti-racism do I call it neo-racism myself but it's whatever you want to call it it's still racism it's still identifying people in the basis of their race and treating them differently right it's the same thing whatever word you want to use right so thinking about the future uh I know you've said that the universities should be defunded if I'm remembering correctly what What alternative options are there or should there be for higher education yeah to be clear about whether or not the university should be defunded certain I don't think the universities should be defunded I do think certain departments within the university should be defunded and those departments traffic and ideology and they're not evidence-based their basic purpose is to perpetuate an ideology so those departments should be defunded I also believe that people should stop giving to the alma mater because the university that folks went to even five years ago three years ago is not the same as the universities today do you have oh just what are what are some of those um programs that that you think should be defunded anything that ends in studies should be defunded can you give an example a few examples yeah the paradigmatic example is gender studies gender studies does not do fat studies is even better it actually is even better example it's not dedicated to using the best available methods robust methods to figure out what's true folks go into those disciplines believing they know it's true particularly in the moral sphere and then teaching kids that and testing them on it so it's really an ideology meal right uh you mentioned that your faculty member for it's a new University can you tell us about that right there's a new University the University of Austin and that's based upon Free Speech open inquiry classical texts uh debate free exchange of ideas Etc the University of Austin is based upon a model that it's Noah star's truth and regardless of what conclusions people come to it's going to push back it's going to challenge it's going to help them become better thinkers so I'm a part of that I'm a founding faculty member with Kathleen stock and ion her CLE oh nice I didn't know I was part of that team cool um universities are often known for indoctrinating students rather than educating them uh can you explain why that's the case why why people would be indoctrinating people into these gender studies or fat studies Etc oh boy that's a complicated yeah um universities are known for indoctrinating as opposed to educating you have to take a look at the word education and what it means comes from the Latin EduCare to lead out of and so when someone is educated they've been lit out of the state of ignorance and to another state so they kind of leave their their ignorance behind them we have a situation now in which the people who attend universities and I'll give you just just one example we have the people who attend the universities with the faculty in the administration at Portland State University where I used to teach the National Association of Scholars released a report on the percentage of donations campaign donations that went to Democrats and Republicans 99 and I think 2020 went to Dem Democrats so that is extremely concerning to me and not because I'm a Conservative Republican but because it there's not enough intellectual diversity when you have 99 of the people who give to a political party it's unclear if other views when they're expressed if they're able to be expressed at all we'll be given a fair listen and it's also unclear to me whether or not those views would be voiced by the the best available people you know the best available Scholars the best available articles and students are entitled to that so what we see now is we see a monoculture in which if you disagree with the dominant Orthodoxy you don't get hired back you don't get promotion in tenure the university will punish you in either over or so or um very very subtle ways so that's a 101 level answer it's far more complicated than that you know we have the ideological capture of many journals so you can't even publish articles unless they tow the party line and if articles don't get published you know they don't tell the party line the consequence of that is that those journals become ever more narrow and professors teach students material from that those students get out they go into the workforce so I'm going to Academia Etc so it's a self-reinforcing mechanism because then you don't people don't even get won't even get promoted in tenure unless they get articles accepted but all the journals have already been ideologically captured so the whole thing is a self-perpetuating mechanism and you remove the fact that there is this systematic culling of ideological diversity and diverse voices from the University then you you have an extreme problem of ideological capture one of the reasons that we we want an educated citizenry is because it helps our democracy people have to hear arguments that they don't agree with they may find odious they might may find offensive the purpose of the university is not to instill beliefs that people already come in with it's to help people think through ideas and problems and challenges and wrestle with a history of people who have engaged these ideas you know in other words classical texts and we don't have that now right I talked to Lyle a little bit about the idea that a lot of these schools aim to transform Society according to certain social justice metrics and some might look at that and think well that's actually a good thing you know we want a fairer Society we want social justice to be on top of people's minds why is is that is that a bad thing and if so why yeah two things it deals with what's the purpose of the University one of the things you asked in that question is do we want a more fair Society there's no question we want a more fair Society but the folks advocating this ideology are not after a fair Society they're after an equitable society and Equitable societies are by definition unfair they redistribute Goods services and resources among other things on the basis of historical oppression variables so in one sense you can look at it as a betrayal of traditional leftism in which the left was primarily concerned with economic considerations the new leftist the woke leftists are primarily concerned with privileged markers and they traffic not in economics as much as identity politics and the color of people's skin so do we want a society that's more fair of course but even if you accepted the idea that what the proponents of social justice want is fairness which is absolutely not true in fact they want the opposite of fairness Ibrahim Kendry has has said explicitly and repeatedly that we to prevent to remediate past injustices we need future injustices particularly against people of certain skin colors but even if you said that there was some Noble goal of the university is that really the purpose of the university is the purpose of the university to promulgate certain values or certain ideas or to mitigate global climate change or what have you I would argue that that is not the purpose of the university the purpose of the university is truth is to figure out what's true is to find what's true it's to create good thinkers and good readers and good writers and then people can come to their own conclusions but it's not to propagate an ideology and that ideology by the way is traceable to a single tax it's Apollo Ferrari's pedagogy of the oppressed and from that text it's manifested in various ways the purpose of teaching is to remediate oppression right I read that book recently yeah it's interesting when people hear criticism about some of these ideologies some of these studies programs or anti-racism for instance alarm Bells go off in their head and they immediately think this person must be right-wing or somehow like it or whatever I'm wondering what we can do to help those people who are good people and they want to do good to help them realize that these study programs this new strain of anti-racism is a problem like what can we do to help people sort of wake up to that so what can we do to help people wake up to the fact I love the use of the words upon wake up there to the fact that the anything with the word studies in it or gender studies what have you does not further the civil rights movement in fact it it acts against the Civil Rights Movement I don't know what can be done that's such an incredibly complicated question because you have people constantly telling you I don't know if you knew the expression a thousand repetitions is what equals a truth you have people constantly telling you that there are certain truths about gender and twos about trans and truths about race it's not clear to me that the ideas that people say are true are actually true for example that one can change one sex or that just by self-identification or I mean there's a suite of beliefs around you know trans issues and gender issues in particular Kathleen stalk again has some really interesting arguments you can agree with those or you can disagree with those about women's only spaces and whether or not people born biological males should be allowed in in women's prisons or women's sports okay so with all of that in mind what can we do there's really not much we can do at this point I mean we could have done something a few years ago but at this point we have the ideological capture of venerable institutions in the United States magazines particles Scientific American has been ideologically captured the AMA is ideologically captured they're all woke I think it's worth spending a moment to talk about how that happened so the ACLU for example the American civil liberties Union has the identical mission statement that it's had in years the problem is that the people discharging that mission statement I grew up on 55 I grew up with Civics education kids today grew up with social studies so they don't really get some of the same ideas not only that they're taught the north star of the educational system now as Equity it's all about Equity it's not about truth anymore Equity is a value there's no evidence that one can present for that value there's no you can't reason to the conclusion of equity it's an ideology and so what happens is when kids get that in college or in high school and they go out into the labor force they take those values with them so the mission statement of the institution is the same but they the way they act upon that mission statement will be different for example the um when I was growing up it's a famous case of the American Nazi party wanting to protest in Skokie Illinois and the ACLU stood be behind the American Nazi party because they were for free speech and that simply would not happen today even though from the outside the the institution is identical so how do we wake people up if you will to upon I don't know the answer to that question but I can make some suggestions that may be helpful the first thing we can do is is unsexy of an answer it is is you can just show up you can literally just show up you can show up to your PTA meetings you can show up to your school board meetings you can show up if you're a stockholder for anything that you can show up for you should show up for because what happens over and over again is a small hyper vocal group of activists show up and they hijack the agenda second thing you can do is you can document literally document videos you can take pictures you can save documents you can upload those and then subsequently you can make videos about those you can talk about those you can communicate what's happening one of the most important things that we need to do however before any of that is the case is we have to embolden people to be able to speak out we need a thousand Jody Shaws we need a million Jody Shaws we need people who say hey I have a few requests or I'm upset by this or this disturbs me or I don't understand the reasoning for this and we need to make it completely acceptable to ask questions because right now we're in age of heresy you can't ask questions about certain things regardless of one's position about vaccine mandates for example there is a party line to take on that and it should always be acceptable in a democracy to be able to ask questions so we have to embolden people to be able to ask questions can you think of any way too embolden people just sheer example just by completely making Jody Shaw's by making those videos the problem is you have a conflicting set of narratives that make that impossible for example you have speeches violence so if you ask a question or if you state something you're exhibiting your white fragility or you're committing violence against a certain group of people as opposed to just asking a sincere question because you want to know the answer and that's the other thing is like literally nobody wants to live like this nobody wants to walk around terrified of what they're going to say having to be paranoid about their text messages things can haunt you from 20 years ago but that's the situation in which we've created if we have a critical mass however I think it will change I was just reading something parenthetically about why many women don't run for office and the I can't remember the piece but I can get it for you and the author of this article who is herself a woman claims that so many women have sent sexual texts and pictures of themselves naked to males that they're afraid of those pictures then being released and then being shamed so there's something grotesque about that on multiple levels so we have a situation now in which social media um the Twitter sphere Facebook Instagram Snapchat no matter what what platform one is talking about there's a kind of or Clubhouse in particular where people record conversations and then play Snippets either out of context to kind of get people you have to develop a kind of resilience you know if people attack you or they try to smear you you just have to not listen to them I know it's very difficult if not impossible for many people to do but it's just the culture right now it's kind of a maoist culture there's there's really nothing you can do unless to be blunt you just say you so more people need to say you great um turning gears a little bit um so some some people when we start you know complaining about the ideological capture of the universities or any of any of these problems some people on the left will say that well that's not really that big of a problem we have much bigger things to worry about like the far right and climate change and various things do you think that's true or false and why I I think those problems are related I I don't think you can just separate those problems so the is global climate change anthropogenic climate change or problem it's absolutely a problem how big of a problem is it I don't know it's out outside my area some very smart people have substantive disagreements in that I just read apocalypse Never by Michael schellenberger and he seems to think that it's a problem that's well documented but not an apocalyptic problem that will end the species as we know it I'm not qualified to make those judgments but the way that we find out is the same it's through the best available evidence it's through research it's through making sure that in the people in The Academy can research and come to their conclusions as a result of a robust process and we don't have that now it's not clear to me that you can separate out for example the wealth gap or homelessness or the university is the engine of knowledge production and so it's at the center of everything so if you want to solve any of those problems particularly climate change which you mentioned the way to do that is not by waving a wand it's not by sacrificing a goat on the hood of the car it's by look using the best methods and having people try to falsify it's through science and right now that's what the society is geared for our academic institutions have been geared specifically for that to take a look at the best available evidence and write papers Etc that policy makers then look at and make decisions based upon the evidence and we don't have that so it's unclear to me while those problems are extremely important the way to solve those problems is through science and knowledge production and if the instruments of knowledge production have been ideologically hijacked or captured it's unclear to me how we'll be able to solve subsequent or competing problems right I was talking earlier with Cali about how within this ideology there is a an inherent um unreasonableness in this in the sense that they say that like the scientific method and all these things are white male Western constructs correct can you talk a little bit about about that so I'm really glad you asked the question about whether or not science is a white male construct science is open to anybody anybody can follow the scientific method anybody can make an observation they can test a hypothesis being white and being male has literally nothing to do with it in fact some of the best science Bill Gates actually I think was in the road ahead I read something that he wrote a while ago he said that the Microsoft campus in China produces more output than all of the rest of the Microsoft campuses in the world and it's less well-funded so the idea that uh you know a woman can't presume can't be a an exceptionally good physician it's just it's just nonsense it's just not true but behind that idea is that we've created structures in society governments institutions that have been set up by white males who use a process of science and reason and epistemic adequacy and rigorous epistemologies to set these up and there's inherent racism and sexism and the idea is from Aubrey Lords the Master's tools cannot disable the Master's house so you can't rip down the patriarchy and systemic racism by using the tools that built the house so you need to use another set of tools the problem with that is that those other set of tools are there's there's really no politic way of saying this they're just total nonsense you can't do anything with those you can't send a person to the Moon you can't build it you can't do science with those so those tend to be things like lived experience what you can do with those is you can evaluate poetry you can take a look at what kind of Cuisine you like or whether or not you like avocados mixed with sugar which they do in Brazil or avocados mixed with salt which they do just about every place else like guacamole so in in terms of your personal taste that's a a fantastic way to navigate reality but in terms of creating any kind of scientific structure in which you institutionalize the tools to make better decisions it's just total nonsense I guess the other problem with that is it makes it impossible to adjudicate disputes so for example let's say that somebody claims you know African-Americans are pulled over more by the police than non-african Americans how would you test that claim you can't go to the lived experiences of African Americans maybe you could go to the lived experience of African Americans to see if you should test it in the first place but you don't test it that's not how you adjudicate it you look at body cams you look at the incidents that are called in on the radio and you correlate those to the races on the driver's license that have you but but they're a way we know that there are ways to figure things out and we know that it may be complicated it may be costly but it's not particularly complicated right that makes sense um what do you think is biggest threat facing liberal democracy I don't know the answer to the question what is the biggest threat to Liberal democracy I'll throw out some of my top contenders the first would be wealth disparity the income disparity between the very very rich and the very very poor the second would be it's not an answer that that I think you're looking for but I think it's inflation I don't think we can continue to print money the way that we're printing money and no no country has ever printed its its way into prosperity and I think that we're seeing the beginning of a vicious Tale another extremely pernicious threat to Western or to the United States liberal democracy is the erosion of trust in public institutions I don't see how we can continue as a society if nobody trusts the government if nobody trusts the schools if nobody trusts if nobody trusts anything I mean the number of people in the last year alone that have homeschooled and many people have said from self-reports when our survey data when they're asked it's because they don't trust what's being taught in the schools right now so we cannot have a country in which a significant number of people simply do not trust the institutions I'm sure there's a myriad reasons but why do you think people the Trust In institutions has declined so much that is in such a complicated question first I think it's the death of expertise Tom Nichols has a great book on that I think it's the fact that people equate platforms with content expertise I think the pandemic has been a rude awakening to people and the fact that um we cannot count on expertise like we thought we could count on expertise I think a lot of the credentials they're not fabricated in the sense that there's anything nefarious going on but they're fabricated in the sense that it's an ideological imprimatur as opposed to a knowledge or content imprimature so we give people the the stamp of approval to for example teaching our institutions because they've passed some kind of ideological or Dogma test I mean for example diversity statements that professors are now writing now those are instruments of ideological replication as opposed to testing any content knowledge one has about the anthropogenic global climate change for example so I think that the other reason is because in the pandemic people have seen what's being taught in their kids classrooms and they're aghast they're utterly horrified by it if you really look at the data from people who are hyper vocal particularly on social media people who would be identified as the far left and the far right you're only really talking about eight percent of the population on both sides of the coin so you're talking about a a really small 16 percent total 17 based on a study of rate you're talking about a really small sliver of the population who are creating an unbelievable amount of Devastation destruction and Chaos as we've seen here in Portland night after night after night and the incompetent worst and incompetent um and the the I don't even know it's not even the pathetic I'll just I won't even qualify with an adjective and the response by local leaders like Ted wheeler to that night after night after night destruction right yeah and I want to get into that in just a minute I filmed that uh event that you did with James Lindsay and Helen block rose on whether or not intersectionality was a religion oh yeah that was a long time ago yeah yeah early 2018 2017. yeah I think it was 17. before my back was super up um John McWhorter has called what he calls third racism I'm reading that now yeah it's great um so he describes third wave anti-racism as a religion I think that's a little too narrow I think there's more to the religion than that um but uh I'm wondering why you think intersectionality or more broadly sort of critical social justice if you would put it that way it is or has become a religion yeah Michael schellenberger and I who sheldonberger just published San Francisco and I just came out with a category sheet that divides on it's a x-axis and a y-axis and it goes through things like climate change homelessness mental illness Etc and it divides those into devils and mystical figures Etc and that really captures my my view I think it's a religion because it has all the trappings of religion and I think people believe it in the same way that they would believe a religion in other words there's no disconfirmation criteria and for the belief so they believe it and it can't be disproven and they set their confidence at 100 that alone is religion and then you have the analogs privilege being original sin you have control mechanisms like blasphemy operates in political correctness in the same way we have identical trappings we have groups of people who certainly behave in every possible way as if they're religious and the irony one of the ironies of course and this is you see this in the atheist movement you see this in the skeptic move that's where you start first that was the canary in the coal mine where people who went to conferences and basically devoted themselves to atheism then became religious and they didn't even know it if you ever watch the game of Game of Thrones the only reason people have new Gods is because they stop believing in the old gods so the question is it's been termed the substitution hypothesis do we just need something to believe in do we have some architecture in our brain that basically defaults to I have to believe in something so you mentioned some similarities to to like Christianity with you know the original sin and that sort of thing are there differences in this religion yeah there are differences I mean I guess you could look at it in terms of Catholicism or protestantism for example so that this is more of a protestantism there is no papal figure there is no people who Define the rules there are certainly thinkers like Ibrahim Kennedy and Rama D'Angelo the kind of the lower hanging fruit of that and then there are Scholars within that so so there are differences and there are differences in that at this point in time the Believers in the new religion can't rip out the tongues of those of us who question them so they don't have the same savageries available to them that they had hundreds of years ago or they don't have the same legal apparatus that the Taliban has because for these would be identical people right so there's something about the moral mind overriding the rational mind if you look at any group of Believers this group of Believers is no different they do have access to different tools like social media and they have different kinds of mobbings and they also have their own madrasas or they're trying to create their own madrasas where they call out any kind of voice that that interrupts The Narrative or challenges or questions and they're also similar in that just as inside they have they don't really have a sense of humor right right and is there some version of Salvation or redemption in this new religion yeah it and that's by words that's we put that on the the shellenberger and I put that on the chart that we created there is a Salvation in a sense There's No Redemption There's No Redemption from the stain of privilege whereas there is redemption you can wash your sins away through the blood of Christ and you see that in the synoptic gospels you see that in John there is no redemption in this religion if you are white and you are male and you are heterosexual you were born forever with the stain of privilege There's No Redemption what's the Salvation uh Salvation would be too strong of a word you can become an ally you can work to raise the voices of others provided that you don't Center yourself in that experience you can self-flagellate for example and I don't necessarily mean mean literally like you you can talk about how you've oppressed others as long as you don't censor yourself in that right so doing the work doing the work yeah what do you think D'Angelo and other people mean by doing the work it seems often obscure yeah I think what people mean when they say doing the work is that in the literature called privilege preserving epistemic pushback white people in particular and men white men specifically and even more specific than that white heterosexual men will do anything to preserve their privilege and we need to do the work to fight against those impulses to preserve our privilege and raise up those around us so it's sort of in internal reflection and and it's internal but it also manifests itself as external as well you can claim all you want but you actually have to do something right and you touched on this earlier about whether or not we have sort of like a religious architecture in the brain and whether or not we need religion um you know obviously with the decline of traditional religion we're seeing as you mentioned the substitution hypothesis you see these new political religions emerging wokeism Q Anon whatever do you think it's better for society and I know different non-believers have different views on this but do you think it's better for society to have some sort of benign Christianity that holds us all together an awesome question that is a money money question in Plato's Republic he has this myth of the metals idea and it's basically should we lie to people if we know that we're going to be better off so if it's the case that there's something in our brains that just need we need religion even in Iceland for example they have you know talk of gnomes and pixies and stuff and the percentage of people who believe in this astronomically High which Scandinavia they have similar fairy tales to which they ascribe truth values to those things so if it's the case that we need this is it not better to gently nudge people toward more benign belief systems I have recently come to question and challenge my own beliefs on that question I was pretty hardcore saying that we must always value the truth we must always Place truth front and center we must always tell people what's true even at the expense of our feelings or what that does to society I've seen the new religion I've seen the denigration of Truth I've seen the fact that it attacks the methods that we come to truth and even after seeing that and questioning my belief I still believe that the truth is always better even if it will lead in the short term to detrimental consequences because I think in the long term that's the only way that a liberal democracy can survive what about some people like Jordan Peterson and others have argued that you know some form of Christianity acts like a social glue you're right it does forms of Christianity or forms of Islam what have you traditional religions act as a social glow but that's why the most important thing that undergirds all of this that almost nobody talks about is cognitive Liberty and we have woke people right now who want everybody else to think exactly like they do they want them to have their beliefs and if you think about it in terms of cognitive Liberty then you can view that as a tyranny anybody can believe anything they want to believe this to me is what makes this The Shining City upon a hill anybody can come here they can believe they can take their Traditions or they cannot take their Traditions they can sleep with people of any gender or do do things they want they can have freedom of expression and the problem comes when other people impose their morality and their Will and tell people what they can say or do or think and that's the situation that we have now with the woke they want to tell you what to think they want to tell you how to live they want to interfere in your friendships this is the most Un-American thing possible and if you say that to them they would laugh at that they would say yes we hate this country it's built on misogyny and racism but these are the new authoritarians this is the new tyranny and the Schism the fault line in this is not conservative liberal it's not Republican Democrat the Schism is those who are authoritarians and those who are not those who promulgate tyranny and those who do not those who want Liberty for everybody and those who do not I'm an atheist for example and I completely support the right of anybody to believe anything they want about a God or no God but with that comes that I get the right to question them and challenge them and they can tell me to go screw myself and they can question me and challenge me and I can tell them the same which I probably wouldn't but that's what it means it means to live in a society in which we're free to believe what we want in we're free to question who we want and those people are free to answer our questions or not we all have a kind of freedom and now we have a bunch of totalitarian thugs whether it's the militant Wing like antifa who wants to destroy that and destroy the institutions that protect our speech and our due process and our freedom of assembly and our freedom of the press and we have those who stand against them [Music] thank you everything hi everyone 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Keywords: Peter Boghossian, How to Have Impossible Conversations, James Lindsay, Woke, AntiWoke, Anti-woke, Woke Ideology, tyranny, university, resigned, Portland

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Published: Wed Mar 01 2023