>> I love And if you can our next guest, you could find yourself performing in Las Vegas. So here's. >> The more vocal half of the matching duo Penn and Teller and through their show Penn and Teller Fullest, which airs right here on PIX11. They spotlighted talent from all around the world and they're doing this all performing their long-running show at the Rio in Vegas, the police. Welcome back. Our CW, number. >> Penn Jillette, great to have you here. You're doing a great show is fantastic or just talk about some of the actually has some of them one's. Yeah, Ron, to be your tough cookie to crack. In the we do. We do. We know a little bit. But still get full. There's great, Just how they how they do this season. >> Was the magicians how they do this season? Really good. Really good. You know, starting we're going to start recording another one very, very soon. >> And this will like 12 years and doing right and you have ask on the show. Oh, yeah, because great. Yeah, Burke is wonderful. So you teaching tricks. Yeah, she's joining this year. Coming up the next week tape should be doing 2 or 3, O she Yeah. We're showing up for same thing even if they don't fool you right. There is this is our of when you're watching it that you've got to be drawn into it. All right. So as a magician who knows a lot of tricks of the trade, are you impressed by what you're as we don't have anybody you know, we can't know who's going to be all right. We can't know what going to do. That wouldn't be fair. producers are really wonderfully travel all over the world go to magic competitions everywhere, China. They're always over in Europe try to get magicians from all over on right. And there's just a lot of lot of really good people in the nice thing is >> you know, even recently as 20 years ago was all people that look like a old white guys. Yeah. that's changing. I would like take credit for it. Maybe get a little bit for Mostly the Internet. And now we get a lot of people that learning magic from the Internet and kind of on their own and are part of the old Boys club. they have a lot of techniques that the do full us, right. So it's wonderful that the people that a younger and new or toward a more up to 4 great. And it's fun to watch how much it has evolved because some of the different tricks that they use are using technology sure has a lot of stuff. >> There's a lot of stuff they do. And it's really a what's wonderful for us to get into magic. Not because you like to fool people getting the magic as you like to be fooled. >> Yeah. That gets harder and harder as you get more skilled. So we're in this wonderful position where we don't have to chase that first high. The the producers do it for. that makes you wonder then I mean, in the position that you're in, I mean, people that are in the audience kind of want you to get for sure. Do you want to be every time every time someone comes out? >> And you know, we try to make it one of the things you want to do on the show was to be coined. Yeah. And on all the talent shows that if you want to call them. >> There's always these people that don't know anything. Making comments about their style and staff we never do. That is very simple. We're not even saying this. A particularly good tracked. We're just saying one simple thing. Which is very close to object of witches. Did you for watching, right? Yeah. That's the only thing we're talking. Yes. And some of the best accident having full dustbin of gone on to be very successful. Glad you said that because sometimes I watch the shows and Mike. >> I'm not you. Their judges skilled at the craft that they're going do what they're doing. do it themselves. And we make that very clear. And the proof of that is we've got 3 action on the strip that have their own all theaters that started out on full now, whether they fooled to stream on really that important people watching go old. They fool the old guys. Haha here. It's a great show. You have the other guys to Brian often. Jean, trying to say the last day good largest try to soften saying and Jonas and then say Stauffer, right? Very first season and full. This bad, you know, and like the fact that their team exactly Penn and Teller would be if we were good looking and Swedish. Yeah. And you're working behind the scenes of the show, right? we're we're we're producing. It will also be tonight. We're going on do something with them. do a trick or awesome. So you're part of the show to get tonight to remember what it was. The initial think that's something they did. A lot of that get a lot of allusions stop think stuff. And the biggest, the big stuff is the hardest fullest with? Yeah. Because it evolved slower and hash to expensive in big so >> card direction, the most likely the fullest because it's moving so fast, right? Yeah, the props are so cheap. But the full list big stuff like that by Peter and Joan, us to this fund all that we fought. We if people coming here all the time with the cards and we >> I mean, they're right here. Well, yeah, well, it's it's it's because it's almost like, you know, any art form. Yeah. Where the where the tools to do it are cheaper. You get better and move with So the tricks are folks that fooled you. Are there still tricks out there that you still haven't figured out? do you know? We seasons seasons You have figured him there that. The question is kind of It's not request the answer is yes. There are tricks is still a full dust. There's also new tricks. All the time was both of those things are coming in together. I you're also in Atlantic City, never Inland tomorrow on Friday and then and foxwoods on my to get tired of it and you're still do what else can I And then you're still creating new You know, we we write about 20 new tricks a year for a we always put new stuff on the show. You the most magic acts, least the old-school magic would do the same 90 minutes for 4 more years. You know what? We don't do the same 90 minutes even one stuff all the We got into this to right stuff give this to play golf in the Game show, right? Yeah, great to have you other half today was we're just half on things sleeping