Pastor vs. A Millennial / New Age Girl

what are you talking about she's trying to promote love positivity positivity our love and poss everybody in operate on that level so uh I like that I like your hat by the way so love is dope right on why why should we love each other why do you think actually we love each other yeah because there's a lot of people that believe we should hurt each other why why would why would they be better [Music] you change your entire life in a positive way I guess I mean anything doesn't mean you actually religious mean that you haven't you believe and crystals like do anything it really is just about like how you think about your name how you treat others yeah that's good like what would Jesus do like what loved you yeah every time so I like that actually I bracelets I say that that's good what are you so like how would you how would you talk to the person that say he believes in he believes that we came here through unguided purpose purposeless events he believes that all they are our descendants of fish evolution and he believes that the virtue is hurting other people how would you argue with him like nobody hurt you so what would you what would you do if you saw a guy hurting somebody on the street would you just kind of walk around it you wouldn't get involved doesn't love demand if you love a person that you you do something to save them so you're like fighting on the street like I'm not gonna get in the middle of this like I don't think I'm sure I'll be like yeah maybe I think you'd like an emulator so you would kind of watch until the fall out and then you would do something afterwards I'd like obviously there's something going on and on like the middle person I don't need to tell people what to do like if they want to have their for all like go for it what if a guy what if a guy walked into your house and he started taking stuff how would you say anything to him I'd be like get out of my house what have you said nav is like then I'd be like I'm calling the police like what he said what if he said I reject the notion of love cuz I I agree with you on I believe like finding anybody to do whatever the heck they want to you you have to have a level of respect if to have self loves even like love other people so like for me to create boundaries for my own personal safety and I was like to keep myself safe like then I am able to give other people that safe sound love instead of like leeching off other people taking their stuff because they love me or whatever yeah no I I like what you're saying because I believe that God is love I believe all of us are in the image of God I'm just I'm curious because I agree with your message of love I just I wonder how do you how do you go about convincing somebody that love you can't not anybody's throat especially lovingkindness like if somebody doesn't want kindness then like they're not gonna accept it so what's the point of me putting all of my energy in my effort able something that doesn't want to hear what I have to say yeah so I'm gonna go and I'm gonna give it to people that want it that want to rejoice with me you don't want to spread the letters and message of love like that's what if there was a I like what you're saying what if there was like a large society that grew up next to our Society of love and it got bigger than us and they didn't believe what we believed about love you don't believe we should try to convince them to love one another no his loving aunt she ought way to love each other there are some people that don't honestly I really don't care doesn't like I can go do my own thing I want myself on that different level of operation where I mean the people [Music] meats and metal in their stuff like if they don't want to be a part of that other society than like they can live in that chaotic life that's not what I'm okay I got just so it sounds like you're saying that you don't believe love is an absolute standard it's just what you prefer I mean it's a standard in my life yeah for you interesting so you don't really think there's any absolutes like we ought to do anything you say I'm sorry you say that one more time you said you said impossibility like we all come here to learn something some way and if somebody needs to know perfect lesson of like you know I still love them fire but I don't need to like me during my own me helping me you can only help them so much before they start taking away from singing Adriene hatred Boston sounds like you need to like create boundaries essentially hold yourself together but by just like emanating Wi-Fi being loved like I can walk around Anthony back and you know posit my shirt like all you have to do is see yourself love let's figure here - see that today or like I don't like ourselves love like the universities talking making my students or whatever say anything or induce me you said that you don't believe in it you don't believe in any absolutes so there's no there's no absolutes [Music] is that is that absolutely true I mean I could be an absolute I'm like doesn't bother me if there's an absolute like I'm not trying to find like to hear Xena's like we're just unit can only observe what's going on we're not going I mean we're you know the mining our way but we're connecting with a source to hurt my how do you know any of what you just said whatis operating on my own what if I said I believe that I believe that I'm a part of an alien race and I believe that that you are a descendant of my alien race you would just accept it what if I said I'm what if I said I'm your God and I made you and you are to obey me and everything I say to accept that would be like sounds like a kink thing but like you do you I'll be me over here like you know like interesting it's not like it was done for everything that I'm not here to tear anybody down er no no I I can I can see that yeah I guess the reason I ask is because I love your message that we should love one another I think it's beautiful I think there's a lot of people that wouldn't agree with us the world is like love is scope like but not necessary I figured in my life it's necessary like I need love I operate on money I feel like not as happy when I don't have love and enjoy my life loves me so much so I actually brings me gratitude I believe you I believe that all of us are made in God's image and that God is love and that you feel the way that you do because you can't help being the way that God made you and I think it's beautiful and so the reason I'm asking all the questions I am is because I think without an absolute standard of love which i think is God then you can't really say that anybody ought to do anything which is kind of what you said you said there's no absolutes and I think outside of God outside of Christ I think that there is no real meaningful love it's just an emotion it's just a feeling or even like like you kind of intimated it's not necessary it's not a moral obligation you don't have to follow it but if Jesus is who he says he is then love is an absolute standard that we have to follow because of who we are and I don't think it's really just silly Jesus many prophets have actually spoken of love and embody love persons like God that's why we kind of are for the love level and not really getting into the religious things because once you throw Jesus in it or any other prophet then you devil to religion which even apart from the hood said it was a contestant or good work so I like to personally in my own life take away from religion listen to it observe it like believe what I want to believe like what if what calls to me but I think that really alike there's nothing special about Jesus except for that he did I've loved and I keep shared it and was happy to share with everybody else because of the passion that he found the gratitude that he found like many other prophets and people in the Bible the Quran Buddhism like there are so many different religions that you can the one golden rule that is every religion is true others how you want to be treated how Jesus said yeah so like yeah but that's that's the basis of pretty much every collective religion ever is it comes down to that one rule which is I think maybe like before the very thing that absolutes of life is that if whatever you put out will come back like so like if there have to be passive and absolute and anything like I would say that's why I've like the basis or love is an absolute no it's not because we're not saying that love isn't absolutely I'm just saying that whatever you put out back to you the way that you interact with your environment the way that you would like the way that you think about things it's what you see is going on and add that like so she's up to anybody's interpretation yeah every year mine works you like that's how we have crazy people like they so are they wrong now that you call it you call them crazy well crazy I mean like this big but they could be right but they totally good be right just so so if somebody operated with if somebody operated with like illogical things they believed in illogic they said I don't believe you have to be logical I don't believe you have to love anybody or anything I believe there's any moral absolutes you would say cool yeah we all have so you can you don't really know anything [Music] interesting what I experienced because of my mindset I hope and I am and like how much I want to learn so it's interesting you you you seem to have embraced a worldview that says there's no absolutes nothing is true nothing is a moral obligation and I don't know anything and you're you're okay with that you're gone because that's doing everything I'm the one buddy throw me off interesting [Music] little figure to bless me or to like look up because because your God why would you need to work on yourself you said there's no truth what are you working on yourself for if nothing is how do you know what's better there's no absolutes in your worldview why do you want to work on and there's nothing true by the way I'm sorry to hear that you struggle with that but I mean but I don't like that you struggle with that I would want to I would want to serve you and love you and help you but it seems like it seems like you've embraced a world like well I can't like it's about my mindset how I do it think it's how hard I am on myself all right yeah you know I I see wasn't interested just a couple things to think about I mean that's really with a lot of respect and love to you you said judge yourself you said wrong all of that suggests that you believe there's an ultimate standard outside of yourself where you can call something good or wrong all right um but yet you you've denied all that no I'm sorry I said that maybe not clearly I meant you deny that there's any absolute anything that's necessarily true like what I think [Music] I'm sure but your opinions are not necessarily valid what I mean is to say this to you I think that you have more dignity and value and beauty than you think you do and I think that your rejection of of Christ because by the way Jesus said that he was God and he says that anybody who doesn't come to him will not have life and he said that he's God in the flesh and that you have to come to him for forgiveness and reconciliation [Music] [Music] how do you know that here at a minute how do you know any of this you said you don't know anything I do know things like I know things like I know facts I have ideas I have things like do you know what to be true I guess you don't know that it is well let me ask you that I can I can what do you name one thing but that's not the claim that's not the claim of the Bible though God entered into actual history itself and walked among us and spoke and he said that if we reject his word we are fools [Applause] [Music] well I would I would say well there's a lot of ways in so that's a good question it actually is a really good question but there's a lot of ways to answer that I would say the first fundamental way is if you're claiming to be God and absolutes I would say that you are internally inconsistent because you're saying you're God the absolutes but you say now you say there's no absolutes point I'm just answering your first claim though well I'm saying I'm answering your claim no your claim is what if I said I was God I would say that you've already ruled that out because God would be absolute and you said there's no absolutes [Music] what can I ask you this what do you think about and I think I already know your answer what do you think about child molestation I think [Music] lack of a better term do you think it's able [Music] it's taking you a while to think about that one so you don't really know if Chama let's test you know it's evil so you so you wouldn't say it see there's not it's not evil but it's effed up Wow so your worldview you've embraced you reject Christ and you've embraced a worldview that says there's no truth no absolutes no moral oughts we can't know anything and Cha molestation isn't evil married young children married they did get married yeah yeah they did get married young I mean what do you think like if she didn't have sex like well no one in it no inside nobody no that's a good question I would say that the law of God would forbid that God spoke to it nobody could force somebody to have sex or marry that's called rape yeah which they still do right Oh rape is evil but no and my world view rape is evil but not in yours yeah I mean I think it's it's a messed up thing it happens is it evil I just can't like like I said I'd say that that person probably really has some issues they need to work through but it's not evil I mean we could say that anything is evil and turn against it and to not have that available space to be open you know someone were to come to me and be like I had a child and I like I need help and I don't know what I'm doing or I feel bad or I have regret or day haunts me I wouldn't set up to that person that they're evil and disgusting would you I know I know I'm with you I actually I think it's I feel you I think that God has grace and mercy and forgiveness for everybody no matter what you've done but what I mean is the act itself is the act evil according to my worldview with Jesus at the center rape is an absolute moral evil but it seems like because you you don't want Christ at the center of your life just don't believe in crisis the absolute what if whoever told you he said he was I said I did like I did but also I won a million dollars today never happened in my life not seeing the connection what I mean by that is if Jesus anything right of course anybody could say that Jesus said anything 2,000 years ago that's a translated over a hundred different times through different languages taken apart put back together the interesting to a million can I ask you a question how do we get the Bible I believe we just said have a strand it was translated a hundred times many times over the years three different writing well what was what was it what was it written in Hebrew Hebrew and Greek and do you know that we can go back to the original language and translate directly from that into English you know that the Bible says that God would preserve his word that like Judaism Christianity worships of course because because the Old Testament Judaism the books of the Old Testament prophesied every detail of Jesus's life and said that it was God Himself coming as a man to save us from our sins so the reason I accept Christ is because all the Old Testament prophecies tell you everything about Jesus even when he was coming even down to his identity and how he would die and rise again number of ways to answer that but I think you really appreciate this one just as one example I like how do I know that they didn't insert that after Christ and you've heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls okay two hundred years before Christ those were buried in the Qumran area and one of those Scrolls is the Book of Isaiah fully intact two hundred years before Christ and it's chalked full of prophecies about Jesus including prophecies that have be God Himself coming that he'd be born of a virgin and that he would die in the place of his people it's that his own know it is it's miraculous yep but it was prophesied in two parts of the Old Testament that he would be born of a virgin sure Oh sex is good in the context of marriage there's nothing in terms of virgin birth that has anything about sex being icky it has to do with the fact that Jesus wasn't born of an earthly father he was born of a virgin with no earthly father he didn't he didn't inherit what you and I have inherited yeah great time talking you guys wanna share one last thing with you just because I care about you everything you said tonight about love touches my heart in a big way and I think the reason you feel the way you do is because you and I are both made in the image of love God who's the image of love I just want to encourage you to hear this I think that you are more precious and beautiful and wonderful than that you say you are and I think that the world view you've embraced I think deep down you've got to know something is broken because the things you said don't really match up with what you're doing and I just want to share this with you Jesus who were talking about said that he was God in the flesh and I know you say I don't have to accept that but if it's true he said that he was coming to live a perfect life and died for sins and rise from the dead so that if we turn from sin and trust in him we would have peace with God and be forgiven that's the message of love peace forgiving yourself like benefiting like i mighta done something bad today but I'm an evil person I forgive myself like I don't need somebody else to forgive me I need to forgive unless of course unless of course God is who he says he is and he made you for him in his glory then all of us are guilty me too of offending the Creator the who is love who is perfect and were the rebels so the truth is I can forgive myself all of I want all I want but if I've offended him then I need to be reconciled to him and that's the message that's what makes Jesus I think so beautiful is that he's love incarnate coming to chase rebels like you and me totally broken people like us to forgive us as a gift through faith not there anything we've ever done or ever will do it's not because we're good he's the only good one that's love someone coming to give themselves and give everything of themselves to people who don't deserve it to people who actually hate him most of our lives that's beautiful and you are you are shining right now I mean I'm telling you you are it's all over you love love you are emanating emanating God and walking down the street in terms of like the image of God is all over you the love of God but I think that you're missing the most important thing and that's love himself knowing him and the only thing that separates the thing that separates you and I from God is our sin I'm completely guilty you're completely guilty and there's no way to crawl our way back to God through good deeds or religiosity or any like that it's all through what he did and it's a gift through turning from sin to trust in him and he gives you life eternal life and forgiveness that's the message we all know yes eternal life does exist with him out of it wait no I think this yes I mean I just I'm talking tell me about you are more we have an energetic soul consciousness how do you know that right side of his they've done studies they know that gosh this does exist that sure does yeah is a piece of us to actually like lifts out of our bodies and energetic like weight things like I believe that definitely know totally that matches the biblical worldview yeah completely like I grew up Christian like I went to a Catholic school try the Catholic school quarter like eight years blew it off went to church every every two days every week like my whole life and I just found more training more judgment and more he ran into a lot of a lot of issues a lot of simple people yes just like I bounced out of it and I you know I find the world knew that I do because it makes me able to talk to anybody instead of having that judgment and and I think that job is a very awkward conversation for people and that's back in a bit self-love on our trips instead of going to everybody saying I'm down I'm talking about self-love and how they need to have it at sea but here's the thing though I like what you're saying I told you I like it but you can't really say that with your worldview you need to have it I don't need to have anything with your worldview so you see everything you're doing right now apart from Jesus is meaningless and you know that's not worthy of your life your time your much more than you think you are and I'm gonna share one thing with you use at Catholic school I just want to share this with you Catholicism gets of course there's one God Jesus is God they get all that right but Catholicism teaches a gospel a good news message that is not the message from the Bible they teach that through your own good deeds and your own righteousness you can essentially make yourself clean enough through your own obedience so that God can accept you the Bible says that's impossible that's why Jesus came to die because we cannot we cannot ever earn our way back to God or be righteous enough because we're not that's what makes him so beautiful so amazing is that he's the righteous one he's blameless and he gives us his righteousness and perfection as a gift forever and that's how we have peace with God when God sees us he doesn't see us in the mess that we are the the hurting broken flawed mess that we are he sees us in his son as a gift [Music] and so I just want to share that cuz we used to Catholicism I just want you to know that if you read that book the book of Romans you'll see that the message you were raised with is not the message of Scripture it is much more beautiful than you were told yeah good point and like if you're to take like the word he drives and he like point of like fools you know like things that are just like we're talking about a guy in the sky here like I like I just like that's just some really hard to connect with here to able to talk about it in like a way that wasn't he or they like if it was more like energies what I believe that it's like a it's a form but it's not how you or me I would probably agree a little bit a little bit easier but like as far as like God being this dude that says all this stuff and like really cares about what we're doing like I think that you can find that within yourself without having to like what if what if female because we recreate his image so the Bible says though male and female he created them in the image of God he created them male and female together the perfect image of God yeah God uses Matt God is spirit and but God uses masculine terminology is it really no kidding your parents called you spirit that's a that's incredible well so just just something to consider and I know you have to go the kids who put the covers over their heads and they say you're not there you're not there you're not there all the covering their eyes and all the saying you're not there doesn't change the fact that the mom or dad is standing right above them right and so if you if you and I deny him and say I just don't want to listen to a guy in this guy by the way he's not just a guy in the sky he's the he's the guy who came down and walked among us to suffer among us to love us but all of the saying you're not there you're not there olia just like but you don't know what I think I can do is like women that have my own opinion resolute but I mean that I don't believe it any I know I know I know that I know you believe in things except you've embraced a worldview that forces you into a position where you don't really know anything for certain and I know that you know deep down that that's broken I'm Jeff by the way all right nice to meet you so I know you have to go I don't want to I don't want to keep you but I care about you I love you that's why I wanted to talk to you and I just want you to if you if you would whenever you get a chance if you have a Bible at home just without anybody trying to impact you or talk to you or influence you because you had enough of that just read the Gospel of John just John read it through and just listen but no one else trying to influence you or poke you or probe you just read John it votes me the Bible Commission I get some very beautiful things what is yeah it is you know the road kick it down and be like a topper you do a stupid thing but good you know like I guess we'll read John open do that read John alright I love your name it's awesome god bless you thank you thank you thank you spirit is that really your name that's not a nickname I love it

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Published: Mon Jan 15 2018