Pastor Bob Gray II: What Immodest Dress Does to A Church

we were up till midnight and eating and so I don't even know who I am because midnight here was 2 o'clock in the morning for me and but anyways I enjoy it I enjoy I stayed up all night praying how many believe that how many do not believe that and I think you just called me a liar so anyways take your Bibles go to first Timothy and I used to say I find myself saying sometimes if you don't mind I don't care what you think turn to 1st Timothy and let's get this thing done how many were not here at this conference four years ago you were not here four years ago and so they've asked me to preach on a subject that I preached on here four years ago but I think it's a very relevant and is very needed your what what the your church my church was not my church the Lord's Church back in Longview that what we face is the same thing that every church is facing in 2017 it's all the same thing when I was a teenager the thing that our church faced was a a mentality of coolness it was we're cool we are too cool to do the God scene and we are just too cool y'all we were cool with our feathered hair that you you tried to see how big you could get it and you would feather this thing around to the back I know gag and then you would wear white parachute pants feathered hair and your pants and your shirt had to match my very first time in the 80s when I was a junior in high school I went to San Francisco and so I'm from Texas in Texas yet white parachute pants you wore no socks you wore deck shoes dock shoes with no socks and I had white parachute pants on deck shoes no socks that was cool you peg legs your pants and kind of rolled them up to where it was like now if your ankle was showing skin deck shoes your styling and profiling and you are looking cool and I have my feather hair and in y'all well I did not realize that you don't dress that way in San Francisco because I decided I want to go walk the streets the same force I'm a junior in high school 1984 parachute pants white feathered hair and 1617 years of age and so my my my the guy who was with me I said I want to walk the hill you know they got that big hill that goes down like this I want to walk it and he said I'm not letting you out in San Francisco looking like that and I said well you know what could happen so I got out and decided I would walk the streets of San Francisco looking like that y'all there are weird people in San Francisco and that's all there is to it and we're just not talking weird we are talking weird and and so and so I I figured out real quick that that yeah you don't you don't bring that kind of dress on a man in in to San Francisco without attracting something and so that's what cured me of it so ever since then I was like I'm not dressing like a sodomite amen so anyways first Timothy my wife was happy to know I made that decision too first Timothy chapter two are you there and the first Timothy chapter two we're gonna look at verse number one through verse number eight and I don't brother Ross how long do you want me to be I know it's they show me the time schedule I just didn't there's the Bell we're done so I'm gonna set this thing for I'll set this yeah perfect when this watch goes off we're done regardless of where we're at so let's get right into it and the first name of the chapter too so let's pray and then we're gonna read some verses here Heavenly Father lord I ask that you would take and mature the young people this morning I asked that they would pay close attention and that they would understand the importance of everything we're about ready to talk to Lord the next hour just for the young ladies I will expound a little bit more on this subject Lord when I give my title I hear in just a little bit I'm gonna ask for all of us to understand just how important this is the Bible you told us that your house is to be called a house of prayer it is be called a place to where it is primarily about the relationship that we share with you without distraction and God I pray CH you bless now pray to help us in Jesus name we pray amen once you look at first Timothy chapter 2 and look at verse number one now I am going to ask you to really think with me and let's get on top of the subject I exhort therefore that first of all look at this supplication prayer intercession and giving of thanks be made for any men all men teenager let me stop and say this God is exhorting you to do this pray you are the intercessor between God and man you are the one that is supposed to go to prayer for the people around you listen to this it is your responsibility to care about the people around you you have I have a responsibility that when we see an issue in somebody's life that we are to take time to pray about that issue so let's keep reading so get this in mind here we go verse 2 for kings and for all that are in what authority that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and what honesty so now the prayer has shifted to where we are to be in prayer for the people around us and I know prayer is not a teenage subject you preach on although it should be but we're getting ready to shift gears here in the word we are not going to make the words say what we wanted to say we are going to let the word take us on a journey and whenever you do that you've got to come to grips what does the word have to say the word says we are to pray intercessors supplication lift up when your friend tells you about a burden are not to go gossip about that burden you are to get on your knees and talk to the Lord about their burden how many of confidences have you told somebody has been violated because they turned around and told somebody else and it hurts you can they raise their hand anybody like that I have absolutely and I will tell you right now so look at the context here for the sake of time but especially for those in leadership now catch what we're saying here our job is to be in prayer for the Kings and the leaders that we might lead a peaceable life verse 3 for this is good and accept them the sign of God and Savior who will have men to be saved to come into the knowledge of the truth for there is one God and one mediator between God and men the man Christ Jesus who gave himself a ransom for all to be testified in due time so take these set of verses and here's what here's what's truly is happening if we want God to work on the people around us that's the end we want God to work and look at verse 3 who will have all men to be what saved and to come into the what knowledge of the truth our prayer is this God help them but especially help the leaders that as a leader they will come into more knowledge of the truth let's get the context here look at verse 7 where and - I am ordained a preacher and an apostle I speak the truth in Christ and lie not a teacher of the Gentiles and faith and Verity look at verse 8 I will therefore this is the conclusion so this is what you're supposed to do how are you supposed to do it now that's a good question if you are to pray and please don't to me off because if you to me off right now you're gonna miss the the next twist and the road he said this I will that ever that men everywhere lifting up and there's three things here look at it with what kind of hands holy hands so what he's saying here is is that I would that every man with holy hands so what he's saying here is the holy lifting if you willed the word lifting up simply means this I am unashamed so it'sit's a public display so when I go to pray for people guess what I'm to be unashamed I crossed a bridge a while back in my Christian life probably about a decade ago shortly before I became with a pastor that when people would say hey I'm carrying a burden hey this is going on I would always say I will pray for you and then I crossed that bridge that I said this why am I being ashamed to pray right then so when people would say I got a bird you know what to do let's pray right now I have prayed in the middle of grocery stores I have prayed in the middle of restaurants I have prayed in the middle of the church and let me tell you in this you only hear something sad it is pretty sad when people look at you stranger in church when you stop and pray than they do out in the world y'all if you tell me I really need you to pray with me about something we're stopping right then regardless of where we're at and regardless of what's going on and we're gonna pray right then you know what he says here lift up your only hands if you are to be a prayer warrior and if you are to be an intercessor don't be ashamed of it lift it up get it up get it up high and let everybody know I am a pray herb then look what also it says here what kind of hands holy you know what the word holy there means it literally means in the Greek it is my obligation to be holy so not only is it me going I'm unashamed about praying and I'm gonna pray for our leaders I'm going to pray that they'll come to the knowledge of the truth but the second thing he says here is this are you ready he says holy hands in other words it is my moral obligation holy means moral it is my moral obligation to be unashamed to pray look what it says here lifting up holy hey hands hands our symbol of help so I am helping people when I am unashamed when I feel it's my obligation to pray look at it lifting up holy hands without what wrath he says so when you pray understand this it is your moral obligation that you should be unashamed to pray can I ask y'all the question what does the last time you prayed with your friends when is the last time somebody turned a corner and two girls or say well let's just take 30 seconds and pray hey guys are you ready for this one when's the last time you guys said let's pray oh no no you don't understand no I you're right I don't understand it is your moral obligation you should be unashamed about it you should understand let's help we help by prayer then look what it says not only but then you're to do it without what without wrath do you know literally what the word wrath means it means don't do it out of obligation here's here are you ready he said don't be this way all right if we have to you know they don't what do you think the members would feel like if all of a sudden they came up to Pastor and said hey hey could you pray with me yeah all right if we got a can I ask you a question what kind of relationship am I going to have with the members if I'm like pastor might my wife has cancer and she's gonna have surgery can we pray oh good night why did you have to get cancer now Oh fine let's pray everybody with me will we not agree we don't want that kind of pastor okay so without wrath and then look at the next one so so your to do it what lifting up holy hands are y'all with me so far when we lifting up holy hands when we say the word lifting what does it mean that we are unashamed talk to me we are what on ashame number two that the holy means that it is our moral what obligation and then the hands means that we are helping right without wrath means what that we shouldn't be what we shouldn't be upset we shouldn't feel like we have to it's an obligation wait no no without wrath don't feel like you're being pushed into it you know it's like when somebody pushes you to eat your green beans or they push you would you leave me alone I don't do it that way and then look at the next one without what doubting listen to this there should be no hesitation the word doubting in the Greek is a very complex word but it simply comes down to mean this don't hesitate don't second-guess that you are to pray you know when somebody says to me will you pray for me I we're getting ready to turn that corner so you but you got it you got it be with me right here when when there should be nothing about me so the sum up the first part of this chapter this way are you ready I am to pray I am to do it without being ashamed of doing it I am to do it without being pushed into it and I am to do it and not even think twice about doing it it is my responsibility to pray are you rates are in the corner we turn the corner y'all in verse number nine with the first four words you have it what is the very first four words Oh No y'all sit up straight cuz here we go what are the first four words in like manner also whatever subject is fixing to come and if you want to look at verse number nine to see the subject then I'm going to give you the title whatever subject is fixing to be talked about after that comma God said this and like manner also also what what we just talked about you are to help you are to do whatever we're getting ready to talk about unashamedly you are not to do it with the attitude I'm forced to do this you are to do this with with the adda with the attitude of I'm not gonna hesitate to do this we are not discussing this you are to do it with an attitude of this is necessary to help the king this is necessary to help the authorities what is the subject somebody tell me what is the subject in verse 9 look at it it's hard in it in like manner also though women adorn themselves in modest apparel young ladies look at me this is your shot not at you but to you to change you we're gonna talk about this subject what in modest dress does to a church ladies get you pins out because sitting around you are young men that they are our kings they are our leaders of the future and the reason we have family structures to where the lady is the breadwinner and the lady is the one that has to step up to the plate ladies by nature and I and I have here 22 minutes so listen quickly ladies by nature were never screamers they are not hallow errs they were never meant to be the breadwinner they were never meant to take the lead but the reason they are stepping up and taking the lead is because our boys growing up don't have confidence to take the lead God knew what he was talking about when he said if you want your kings and your authorities to be able to let you live in peace and let you live in honesty and let you live the life you want to live then you better go to prayer then he takes a right turn in verse number nine and he says this now you women look at me if you want your men to be able to lead you some day than you take care of your apparel you don't have a clue what your apparel when it's not modest does to the young men around you you have no clue and whether these young men around us would like to admit it or not and I'm young men I'm getting ready to ask you to help me be honest with the young ladies whether we like to admit it or not the power of how you dress ladies can absolutely destroy future kings and it will absolutely destroy churches and it will absolutely destroy a man and until you ladies understand the power of it that you should not be ashamed to dress modestly you should not even hesitate to dress immodestly nobody should have to badger you into dressing modestly but when we get this one subject down you listen to me you're gonna find out that not only will you have a self-esteem that's oh that that is incredible but the men around you will start listening to the Lord the Lord will start working on their heart and the Lord will start bringing them to some knowledge of truth and salvation and what they need to be whenever I preach this kind of sermon the reactions are incredible not because of me and not because of my words but because how glaringly wonderful the book is ladies I'm gonna ask you to everything I described about prayer I'm gonna ask you to apply that to your dress because God already did you see modesty is its own style modesty is its own fashion modesty is its own way of living and if you want strong men around you then your modesty is a must if you want someone to be attracted to you that is attracted all about the flesh then dress immodest but if you truly want to fight through what a guy's all about dress modestly and you will get the real deal when you get married and at this age in stage two where you're at like last night I asked you to decide that you were going to keep God in your life for your future generations I'm gonna ask you right now to adopt such a modest style that you do not walk out going but they made me dress that way they may get a bigger vision for how you dress ladies you are dressing today so that your kings can live a peaceable life that God can work on your future husband without them having to battle lust in the house of God we battle it every day out in the world you know the last place we need to battle it is when we come to church but you know it's really sad about life is that in the average church guys I need your help right now in the average Church how many times have we gone to church and we've had to move sections because of in modest dress honest with you and if a guy ever tells you know when I go to the house of God I never struggle they're a liar because we battle it every day we live is it not amazing guys that the devil is always putting people in your path that aren't dressed right no guys don't look up this way and all you're telling me is is that you got an issue you're trying to block me out but you better hear my words because what kind of Prince you are today will make what kind of ruler you will be tomorrow and one of those key components is when a young lady says I now will adopt the style of being modest in everything that I do there are three words that give us the modest tone in verse number nine and like manner also that women themselves in modest what apparel with shamefacedness and sobriety not with broided hair or gold or pearls or costly array now I won't not going to deal with the end of it because of time but the three words right there what are the three words that I wish you would underline you are to adorn the next is modest and the third one is apparel the word adorned means to put in order arrange make ready prepare that's what it means ladies no longer should you leave the house and just throw things on you need to leave the house prepared with your dress to walk out into this world so that the men around you are never put in a position to wear lust becomes part of their day if lust is going to be part of their day don't let it be because of your body and it needs to be a hallmark of who you are they need to be able to say about you ladies oh they play the piano wonderful they can cook wonderful and all let me tell you something they always dress modestly now the particulars of modesty I think a lady needs to tell you but you listen to me from a preacher of the gospel from a man I promise you that if you dress in modestly in church that you are hurting the young men around you you are not helping the young men around you adorn the word modest circle that if you don't mind it means this well arranged as to conceal flesh so not only do you prepare but then you arrange your dress to conceal your flesh you arrange your clothes as not to reveal but to conceal now y'all can look at me like I'm stupid in a man and I'm a dumb as a bag of bricks but you listen to me I'm more right on right now than what you even and when the skirt start getting shorter and the tops start doing things you listen to me you in and I don't buy this when preachers don't stand up and preach on this kind of stuff that they well we have a spiritual church and we've kind of evolved past the flesh issue if you have then something's really wrong with you because any time a man progresses past female flesh that means he's into male flesh and I worry about that guy more than I worry about anybody else that's why I don't get you guys that buy these muscle magazines and you take pleasure and looking at a man stripped down to his waist with no hair on his chest and oiled up on his body and y'all look at that look at those pecs are you serious and I don't get guys going into the gym standing in front of a mirror with another man with no clothes on and bouncing their are you serious if you don't take seriously what you have on right now then I promise you you are hurting the future kings around you and he said this you pray for your kings and you pray that God will give them knowledge and just like your to pray that way ladies you are to dress that way he didn't come to the men he came to the ladies and said ladies for the sake of our future Kings dress modestly adorned modest next is apparel whether you like it or not if the apparel write this down it means this a garment let down a lowering of the garment y'all whether you like it or not testing one two whether you like what I'm about to tell you or not can y'all see me over there whether you like this or not listen to me you can say anything you want to say but when you sit down and the skirts are down and you have let down your skirt your apparel has been arranged in such a way to cover flesh but watch this when your apparel inches up ladies to where you show your knees there's a trigger point for a guy in that trigger point is when you get to about the end of that knee from there to there that is the door that a guy starts tripping guys now is when I need your help if I'm telling you the truth would you please help me explain to these ladies by standing to your feet and saying absolutely pastor that that's the that's the door girls look around you look around you you can have a seat it's about time a man stood up and told y'all that we are your future kings but our future reigning and doing this right hinges on the women around us last you guys are saying help me with another thing how many of you guys have gone to church ready to worship the Lord ready it's it okay to stand on this okay I didn't know I don't care but I just didn't know hang on okay we're not going anywhere how many of you guys have gone to church going finally to get a break from the world finally we can go to a house of God only to walk in sit down and look down the row and there's a woman with the knees showing skirt now creates a tenth effect across her knees and a bad thought hits your head in the house of God before you answer let me be the first guys I need your help right now would you stand girls look at your future kings the average lady when I do this sermon and use these kind of illustrations go I never realized I was just trying to dress fashionable I was just trying to I I how old are you sir thirteen and before you ladies call its perverts we are not perverts we are red-blooded American males you can have a seat the other day I I was preaching a meeting and when I was in the middle of preaching the meeting and I did just like I did they called me up I walked up and I stood in the platform stood up to get ready to preach on the front row I got there late on the front row was like 25 girls ladies teenagers and they were from a youth group and all of them all of them had their skirts too here I got up and I said okay here's what we're gonna do we are and I'm trying to back up so the pulpit kind of shields I said okay pastor can you come sing like three songs went out the side door and I and I and I asked the pastor step out with me I said I can't do this the pastor looked at me and said brother great you should be more spiritual than that and I said I'm going to the hotel room I'll see you tomorrow night he said are you sick and I said oh yeah now you listen I'm about to tell you until we get it straight among church-going girls and stop looking at what you're just forcing me to lower my skirt there ought to be some ladies that mount their life and just step up and go I am glad with holy hands I lifted up I am unashamed of how I wear my dresses I am unashamed because I know how I am dressing is helping the 13 year old future king that's going to marry somebody someday going to be the husband and the reason the Mullis station rate has picked up is because the arrows of the devil are being shot through the bow of church girls in how they dress because they love the world and they want to be in vogue and they want to be in fashion I'm asking you to step your game up let me give you several things than I'm done because of time number one the first thing is this in modest dress does these things number one it determines the direction for our young ladies it determines the direction because if you'll dress that way in church how are you dressing outside the church you're on a directional course now you know it's really crazy about this is every time I do this new believers those who haven't been saved very long those who haven't haven't really this is the first time they're hearing this they immediately always go I had no idea and I promise you that won't happen again I just had no idea but what's really crazy is is when is church going you daddy's a deacon your mom is in the church and now we have the sixteen seventeen year old females that are Church girls they were born in the nursery almost not literally born in the nursery and they're like well I don't get it if the guys were more spiritual I wouldn't have to dress this way that's not the attitude God wants us to have not the attitude it determines the direction next number two it discussed godly women who dress modestly it makes him flat mad and I'm going to tell you why it disgusts godly women one oh why because a wife has a husband a wife's got thirteen year old boys and they can't stand it when they walk into a church and here's some 40 year old and some 50 year old that decides they want to dress with their knees showing and dress with with their legs showing and when they cross their leg they're stinking thighs showing and all the sudden they're like well you know if they had a better if you'd raise your boys better they'd let me tell you something there's women all over our churches that are like I'm gonna kill our pastor the next time she shows up that way brother Ross that got up two weeks ago and started preaching a lady came in and sat down and and and when when she was standing her skirt was here but when she was sitting her skirt came to here and soon as she sat down the the the the wife looked at her husband and her three boys and said stood them up in the middle while I'm getting started walked them out of the auditorium and all of a sudden they appeared in the balcony after the service I went and I said you saw what I saw didn't you she said yeah I'm not doing it pastor I got to put up with it at the supermarket I got to put up with it I'm not putting up with it in God's house and neither should she have to I was y'all look like you just saw a ghost no man spake like this man speak the next Sunday after I preached this originally at our church several years ago we had a new couple that was coming and she the only thing she had were skirts that did what I was explaining to you it's the only thing she had and she said pass her III I don't have any skirts that cover up I just don't have I said do you have a blanket she goes hey I got a blanket says you bring your blanket okay for the next six weeks until she could do something about it every time she can't sir she just put a blanket over how much do you want to get this done next it discourages men who struggle with lust it discourages men who struggle with lust that's why I'm not beating you up and I'm not trying to beat you up but ladies you need to take inventory about how powerful you really are and understand this I am NOT gonna be the contributing factor to the moral decay of some guy out here I'm not gonna do that I am NOT gonna do that next next it distracts from the spiritual focus at church what happens when you ladies dressing modestly it distracts from the spiritual focus at church here's a guy and the preachers up there preaching you know we're handicapped up here because we are at the mercy of for people we are competing with for individual is the person on either side of you it's the person behind you and the person in front of you behind you and in front of you we're competing well if one of those four happens to be a lady that is dressed improperly then guess what the distraction whether you like it or not the distractions like this look at and I'm being very honest right now the distraction is this but when there's no lure coming through the water then we can pay attention that's why sometimes when we go to camp we say guys on this side girls on this side one day I did that and I brought in a partition and put it all the way down the center till where both sides could only see me was the best service we ever had and I want to tell you why because one service I put the partition down the center and I was preaching about the unseen and I made an arrangement with the guys that I was like look I'm 0.3 y'all just keep disappearing one at a time and kind of sneak out the side door by the time we were done with the service it was an empty side the girls thought the guys were still over there it was great the guys got them the girl said can we do that no you need preachin when you take out the distraction so can I ask you a question how you're dressed and don't you think for one second that every time you move that a guy's not in tune with it okay okay next and I've got to hurry it desensitizes young men to the dangers of the flesh it desensitizes young men to the dangers of the flesh if that becomes the norm at the church house then what happens if a man lives in this world then he becomes numb to this world which means he has to see more flesh listen to this more flesh it's not good if any more flesh does not help and ladies that's why we must adorn ourselves in modest apparel why because you do it for the same reason you pray you pray to help the King see God's salvation and to see God's truth so that the king can create a society that lives in honesty and peace and tranquility I praise God that the women in my life when I was growing up had this one fact down brother Ross I can honestly say this my mama and my sisters my wife my mother-in-law my sister-in-law my godly teachers at school the people I somebody taught this to them I grew up and I truly believe the reason that I have a head start maybe is not because of me it's because of the ladies around me that did not do this to me and they did not set on fire in me something that shouldn't be there and it allowed God to work on my life ladies you're important oh you have no idea how important you are I'm gonna end with this I want you go back and look at a verse and I had like three more points to give but but but I want you to look it's very interesting circular word modest circle the word modest right there and I know young people when a preacher talks about the Greek it doesn't mean anything to y'all but it does to us when we study the Bible in like manner also that women adorn themselves in what modest apparel that word modest right there I want you go to first Timothy chapter three and verse number two first Timothy chapter 3 in verse number two and I'm gonna end this way first Timothy chapter 3 in verse number two it says this first Peter chapter three and verse number two are you there okay one wants to read this together out loud are you ready first Timothy 3:2 a bishop are you there 1st Timothy 3:2 ready begin a bishop then must be blameless the husband of one wife vigilant sober of good behavior given a hospitality apt to preach out of blameless vigilant sober good behavior hospitality apt to teach do you do you know which one of those phrases is the same Greek word for the word modest and first Timothy 2:9 is the prepositional phrase there of good behavior you only know you're modest can you go about your day without opening this gate so it means this ladies how do you determine how let down your apparel needs to be it's very simple can you walk up steps without opening the gate can you sit down in a chair and cross your legs without opening the gate Oh are we playing too deep here is there gonna be be people laying in the aisle because you listen to me as soon as you ladies guys I need your help right now do we all not agree that as soon as a lady makes this move that if her apparel is not long enough that we struggle hands up guys and do we not all agree that if a lady sits down and her apparel is not long enough watch this and she makes this move and if it's not modest we struggle that's why our ladies have morphed into these shorts to play ball in well it's a athletics it'd be better for you to dress like the Amish and be a terrible volleyball player then it would be for you to get out there are you right can we just get honest because as soon as those shorts do this guys start shorts circuiting steam starts coming out of their head amen but I'm a good volleyball player but you're not a good lady I won MVP not in our book not in our book and everybody's scared to step out on this modesty issue and everybody's scared to say it but for the sake of your future leaders people you're gonna marry dress modestly because I'll tell you this right now a guy who wants to do with this thing right is not looking for a lady who hurts him he's looking for a lady who helps him thank you for loss

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