Part of This Gear Puzzle I Didn't See | Engels Coach Shop

Well after getting this left lever to function last week I did get the right lever installed as well  Many of you have asked the difference between the two This left lever actually engages the whole mechanism. The lever on the right hand side is what governs the speed of the apron    So that actually governs how fast the manure is fed into the beater  and hence how much is being spread on the field  And both of these levers are connected to the mechanisms in the rear by these long rods  This one here is actually a double rod  but this goes on the left side and this goes on the right side They're both pretty bent up and I'm pretty sure they should be straight so I'll get those straightened out On both sides there is another board   that extends this side up that I'm guessing are maybe extra shields so this manure as it   is picked up by this beater doesn't fall over the side So these seem to be just an extension of this curve here  so I'm going to trace that just on going around this It should follow that same curve  So this is just kind of guess and by golly  by the pictures that Jeff Marshall  has sent me on how this should kind of be   There was nothing left of these upper  boards so I'm just going off of his pictures You know over the years you have watched me numerous times use this old band saw In fact, a lot of you early on gave me a lot of harassing about how dangerous it was I bought this saw probably in '93  I think that's what it was Gave $400 for it It has been an absolutely great saw   It has a 26 in deep throat on it It runs off of a 3phase, two horse motor I have three phase in the shop here  And I have cut I don't know how many thousands of board feet through this saw   Well a couple weeks ago I was sawing something out and all of a sudden my motor started throwing sparks and howling so I shut her down quick I burnt that motor up This was actually converted to an electric motor sometime  I don't know when that was Initially this had a big flat pulley  so it would have been run off of  a flat pulley with line shafts and jack shafts   So when this conversion was, I don't know but this was the new motor that I just stuck on it  It's a two horse three-phase motor as well It does still have babbitt bearings in it so I do have to keep this oiled up both on the bottom wheel as well as on the top wheel here Now I know many of you are aware of the site  Vintage Machinery by  Keith Rucker who builds and rebuilds a lot of this old machinery  He has sites that are related to old woodworking tools old metal working tools and some of my machinery are listed on his sites But according to that site Vintage Machinery Silver Manufacturing split off from Silver and Deming in 1890 So sometime after that this band saw was built I don't know what that date is but it has been just a great old saw  I think it can run blades up to an inch  wide I actually run a half inch blade on this   It is a carbide tooth blade. I really have liked that but you know it has always been a noisy saw  Strangely enough now with this new motor  it's fairly quiet. I didn't realize how much of   that noise was coming from the motor and not from the saw itself It still has an old magnetic switch   This is a Square D, class 5572 I don't know what that means but it's a magnetic, 3phase switch that I still use  And I don't know if you'll be able to hear the difference as well as I do cuz I'm kind of accustomed to the noise  that this all makes First time I turned it on it was like   Whoa! This is really quiet now So I may try to go back to some previous videos where I was running this and run them side by side and see if I can demonstrate just how much quieter this saw is now Not bad So I've had this band saw for 31  years now and I had no idea that all the noise that this saw made   was because of that motor who to Who'd a thunk So I think this is pretty close how they should be and there is an eighth inch piece of wagon top iron   that goes down the side but I think you   but I think you can see how it's going to help deter  this manure from coming out the side Well this twisted up contraption goes on the right side in the back This is all twisted up I'll see how it goes I'm really not totally sure how this works   I know these are the pawls that activate the apron speed This tin here I'm sure was a patch I think the side of the box must have rotted out out or broken and they put that in I'm guessing So I'll cut this apart and try to get this straightened back out This hole here is where the rod goes up to the right lever up in front  So we'll see what we end up with  I'm sure that when we get it apart and cleaned up it'll tell us just where it went Well the control rod on this left  side is actually a combination of two rods  One short one that slides on the long one   So I'm going to pin this onto the front  left lever and it definitely is a tight fit So this is all the hardware to the left side  that kicks the engagement gear in and out This lever here This bolt was really rusted out so I'm going to replace that one So it looks like disengaged is all the way forward  So the fork on this upright arm is going to straddle this gear here  but also this shield looks like it has to fit between this big gear and it's shield as well Somewhere about right in there So this arm here is what actually kicks this iron in and out   because of these tapered cams so when that arm is all the way forward this should sit like so    on this upright lever here that allows it to go all the way in and that's where this rod going to the front  controls So I'm wanting it to set I think  about in here I want to balance the space of these two shields  and get the length of this rod so it corresponds to this arm and this upright lever   Behind this lever is another board and that shows up on Jeff Marshall's spreader and it should set in behind here  So this lever has to rotate in  and out so it's fastened by a half inch bolt and it has this sleeve that fits in this hole here so that this lever is loose on this bolt So I'm going to drill that and assemble that with this sleeve That allows the bolt to be tight, but the lever will be loose So that puts this little shield about halfway between this big bull gear if that's what it's called and this shield for this engagement  gear Kind of right there in the middle So this lever should sit right on this hole here so I'll get that drilled Well, before I get too far there's a plate that goes here This little plate allows this lever a surface to swivel on So the theory would be when this rod and the front left handle is all the way forward  and this lever sits down inside  the slot when this lever is moved back then these cams are supposed to push this lever out which should disengage that bottom gear but the way it's setting now it doesn't disengage. It only comes out about halfway So I think this needs to set in there a little tighter against this cam lock arm which would engage these cams sooner and push it out further So maybe I need to play with these bends a little bit See if I can't fine-tune that Okay that helped that a lot But I was looking at disengaging the wrong gears I was looking at this gear That one doesn't need to disengage Actually it's the gears from this engagement gear to this drive sprocket that goes to the beater That's what needs to disengage and when I pull that lever, it does So that's the one I wasn't looking at correctly So while this is being driven  this gear is still going to turn with the wheel  and this one is going to turn with this gear but it's not in engaging the drive sprocket in behind and that's what this is all designed to do So I learned something That engages the drive sprocket So then there's this second rod. It's a short rod    and it has a collar here that is adjustable with a set screw and that's going to come back to this upper part   of this beater assembly I'll pin that real quick here So there we're disengaged And they we're engaged Well I've seen in the pictures of Jeff Marshall    that there's a little clip here that holds the flex out of this rod which would be beneficial As I operate that you can see this flex quite a bit So if this were kept stationary in its  proper place that flex would be eliminated and it'd be more positive on that rear lever So even though I adjusted this a little bit I don't think it was really significant  and I probably didn't need to do that   I didn't look at the proper gear You know that's often times how we get to be We can get to be so focused that we only see what we want to see and it's not until we kind of step back sometime  and look at the whole  picture and go ah, I wasn't seeing that part   and that was the case here I wanted this gear to engage when in fact it was the inner gear  that was the most important gear Live and learn  Appreciate you coming along. Thanks for watching

Channel: EngelsCoachShop

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Keywords: wheelwright, blacksmithing, horse wagons, steam bending, wood working, engels coach

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Length: 22min 59sec (1379 seconds)

Published: Tue Jun 11 2024